Full Show Podcast: 26 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Hell are you great New Zealand? And welcome to Matt
and Tyler Full Show Podcast number what was it?

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One? Three to two, one hundred.

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And thirty two of these bad Boys for Monday, the
twenty sixth of May twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Great chat.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
We're in the dangerous wars of women on MOE, woman
on woman misogyny and look, that was very that was
interesting and we I think we traversed those waters, okay,
and got our live.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Which was good.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
So yeah, and then we went deep into traffic chat
which actually went down a escalator chat and there were
some fingers and toes lost in a few escalators. And
then I thought that chat about the family walking the
length of New Zealand was really interesting as well. So
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Speaker 1 (01:04):
The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Talk said me, good afternoon to you. Welcome into the
show Monday afternoon. I hope you're doing well if you're
listening in the country, Get amen.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Gheta, Tyler, get everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
So my weekend was going pretty pretty good, mate, until
you decided to send what was quite a horrific picture
to the group chats. I don't know why you decided
to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, okay, so the picture that you're talking about, I
assume is that one of me asleep on the couch.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, See well that picture, Tyler, for context, was taken
when I first started doing this radio show. And you
notice the massive motor I've got on me and how
many chins I'm running there. So I've asked my partner
to fat Shame to keep me, to keep me on
my path towards fitness and health and buffness, and so

(02:05):
she sent me that picture of me asleep and looking
rotund and pig like, and I just thought, it's it
to you, and so you can celebrate the journey I've
had since you started working with me.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Look at what ZB has done to you, mate, You're
a change man.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Being on used to ZB is so good for your health.
I mean, I must, I mean, I've lost a fifteen
kg since I've been.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
On fifteen kilo. Well done, mate, look.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
At that tometime on that picture. So I thoroughly recommend
this as a health part of your health routine is
to look at the pictures of yourself, the before pictures
of yourself, as often as you can and share them
with your friends. I mean, even though you guys clearly
didn't want it, and you particularly were not happy to
receive it, But but then you can, then you can

(02:49):
celebrate where you've got to in.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Your journey the self fat shaming. You do you put
that photo on your mirror in the bathroom each morning,
You've got to that and say look how far off
come thanks to ZB.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
I think you've got to do it really like so
that that's quite a stark difference. I think you can't
look at it every now and then. That's why you've
got to ask your lovely partner as I do, to
periodically just send me the pictures that she's taken of
me looking like a slob and with all my fat
rolls to make me feel better about myself.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Now, yeah, well done mate, Absolutely we're going to try
and get that photo up somewhere, or are you ashamed
to put that on Instagram. Oh he's got to think
about that.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
I am ashamed, yep, but that's not me.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
That's the spirit.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'll put it on Matt eathensed on my Instagram.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
You're the best of us, Matt. Right to today's show
after three o'clock. You may have seen this story written
by Shane Curry and The Herald, and it is a
great story. Traveling with children is the topic, but the
story was about the Williams family. They walk the entire
length of New Zealand the tr Travel Trail. Rather a
lot of people listening would have done that. So mom
and dad, that's Andrew and Courtney, and there's four children

(03:59):
ranging from six to thirteen years old. Took them two
hundred and eighteen days. That's a massive journey with four kids.

Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yeah, have you had an amazing family holiday and adventure?
Or is it better to leave the kids at home
when you're doing these epic traveler adventures and have more fun.
Leave them with grandma, leave them with rallies and head out,
because boy, that's a hell of a shift for the
six year old. You've got to say, I mean, good
on them, absolutely good on those parents. But I'd be
leaving the kids and over that one.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
It's a lot of admin, isn't it. That's after three o'clock.
After two o'clock, the road le kiwis can't seem to follow.
So chances are you've come across the notorious right hand
lane hog. The driver who sticks in the right lane
going just below the speed limit, unaware or indifferent to
the cues of people behind them, getting absolutely irate.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, I mean, this is It's amazing that people are
still doing this, doesn't it? Isn't it the first thing
you learn that the far right has for going fast
and far right fast.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, But the people that just get in there and
they're traveling along eighty k potentially posting pictures themselves on TikTok,
I don't know what they're doing in there. It's right,
isn't it?

Speaker 3 (05:05):
But I guess the why.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
The question, though, is the big question as if you're
going a Hundi, If you're going hondy and that's the
speed limit, you're sitting in that lane going Hundi, then
how can anyone pass you? Because it's legal to go
over houndy in that lane. Well, we're going to open
that up.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
But I don't know, mate, I don't know what makes
you the police officer on the road, just determining, making
sure that everybody's going the speed limited. If someone wants
to speed, who are you to say, I'm just going
to I'm just going to get in front of you. Anyway.
That is up to two o'clock is right now. This
is going to be a big chat. An article over
the weekend focused on comments from an Auckland fashion designer.
Her name is Carolyn mars So. She was highly critical

(05:41):
of Nicola Willis's choice of dress during the budget total disrespect.
She said in the article. Her crime Nicola Willis's is
that it wasn't a New Zealand design dress. So this after,
of course, journalist Andrea Vance calling Minister Willis and her
female colleagues the sea word, among other slurs in a

(06:01):
published article. It seems that woman are going for other women.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, Like, I believe if anyone should say anything they
want about anyone on them, a huge, hugely in favor
of free speech. And so you know, if that's what
she thinks, if that's what Catherine mar thinks, then she's
quite welcome to say it. But I also think you
need to point out when something it feels wrong, and
it definitely feels like hassling a female politician about what
she's wearing when you don't do the same thing to men.

(06:29):
Does feel a little bit weird and wrong. And it's
not men doing this, is it. I guarantee most men
didn't notice or even care what Nicola Willis was wearing
during her budget speech. And it reminds me, as I
say to you before. Tyler of a POSTO Saw and
a Woman wrote, it's so unfair. Men can wear the
same thing over and over again, but women have to

(06:50):
constantly change what they are wearing for each wedding and party.
And the first comment underneath this post was from a
man saying, I guarantee there isn't a single man out
there who cares or notices that you are wearing the
same thing over and over again. I mean this appears
to be a woman on woman thing, So that the
question is, is woman on woman misogyny a problem? Is

(07:10):
it as bad as normal misogyny? No man be his
normal misogyny would be man or woman misogyny or the
most talked about misogyny. I mean, we're always being told
that men a horrible misogynist. Do you care what female
politicians wear? Do they should? They have a different standard
to what male politicians wear? And do you think it's

(07:32):
something to male afternoon talk? My coaster should even be discussing.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yeah, that is the big question. Give us a ring.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
One hundred eighty ten eighty should be a nicely dangerous chat.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Yeah, I love to get into this with you. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Where do you sit on
this one? Nine two nine? If you want to send
a text message, it is thirteen past one. Back for
you shortly. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (07:59):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used
talks that'd.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Be very good afternoon. It is sixteen past one.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Hey and Tyler, look and look. I love how the
text machine on nine two nine two keeps us honest.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's as this person said, it's woman and women.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
The plaral of woman is women, not woman.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I didn't want to say anything, Matt, but I'm glad
that Texter just pulled you up on that one.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Greetings Matt and Tyler, Greetings, men, who is this amazing
woman you keep talking about? Don't you mean women is
a different pronunciation? Let me educate you both. Woman is
pronounced woman regards. Okay, okay, right, thank you very much,
and that's from D.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Thank you, D. Thanks dam glad we cleared that up
before we carry it all important, it's important. Undred and
eighty ten eighty. We are talking about misogyny, women being
misogyny mystic to other women or is it? Is it
a big thing?

Speaker 2 (09:01):
In this case it was a woman, yeah, argument, No,
it was women. Therese two women, women being misogynistic against
one woman.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
Yeah, okay, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you
are a woman thought about this, it's not sure in
that one. Yeah, we're going to put this one to bed.
But no, really keen to chat with you on this
because it's a couple of instances.

Speaker 5 (09:20):
Now.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
One is Andrea Vance's column, right, which was very.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Full on girl boss this c word that girl math this,
which would be considered pretty misogynistic if and it was
it was she was accused of that, but definitely if
it was a man saying that about a woman, there
would be problems.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Certainly would be and then of course.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
We've got this fashion situation here that we were talking
about before, criticism of what Willis was wearing for her
budget speech. And this morning on Herold Now Nicola Willis
was on with Ryan Bridge and Harold Now enjoyed that
show this morning and new initiative. Ryan Bridge fantastic, isn't
he He's very good in front of the camera. The

(10:03):
camera loves Ryan Bridge. But he asked a question and
I think Nicola Willis didn't really hear exactly what he
was saying because he was kind of trying to support her.
But she came back like this.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
We're going to come back to that audio. I can't
help but notice, and I know I'm not meant to
talk about this, but you know the dress that everyone
was talking about it the weekend, Are you wearing it again?
Because if you are, go for it girl.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
Brian, you know what the nineteen fifties called and they
want your line of questioning that we've got more interesting
things to talk about than dresses.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Fair enough, fair enough, it is a nice one. And
from Nikolai, yeah, no, you feel for Ryan in that
instance because he was trying to show some girl.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
He was trying to be an ally there, but no,
but fair enough what she said after the criticism. You
know the nineteen fifties once you quit your question back,
and the nineteen fifties probably wants someone a woman being
hassled for not wearing the right thing when she's doing
the budget. But the person that was doing that was
a woman who was a fashion designer, Carolyn Mark exactly.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty two is the number to call, Sarah.
What's your view on this? Do you think there is
misogynistic attitudes from woman versus women?

Speaker 7 (11:18):
So, Hi, guys, yes, I do, and I think it's
absolutely unacceptable. I just want to start with the stuff
that's stuffed. The stuff has heralds, its own female owner,
as you know, a New Zealand leader, etc. So that's

(11:40):
Shneid Boucher or Bouchier. However she says her name, Andrea
Barnce worked for her. I think Shanaide Boucher should be
called out on this because what her staff member did
is pretty disgusting. That's what I'm saying as a female,
because I know with absolute certainty that no female who's

(12:02):
worked tirelessly hard to achieve in their careers. What the
career they've chosen, including the career of MP in New
Zealand's Parliament, deserves to be diminished and has their reputations
dragged into the mudlake with terms like sea word, girl boss,
hype squad, girl math, because does that then less us

(12:26):
say that SHANEI Bouscher is also the sea word, also
so hopeless at her job that she's a girl boss.
Her team of people are just a hype squad and
they probably bought the company for a dollar because they're
all just girl mathematicians. You know, it goes both ways,
and I don't think. I think what stuff SHINEI Bouscher

(12:48):
allowing her team to do that against other women. I
think it's an absolute disgrace.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
So do you think it? Do you think it's worse
than male on female misogyny.

Speaker 7 (13:01):
I've actually never seen males go that far, you know,
I think it because my problem here is comments like
that in private that's an individual's choice, But comments like
that deliberately placed in the public domain, where there's been
a lot of there will have been a lot of
discussion and debate internally. It's stuff with Shineid Buscher, who's

(13:24):
the owner of the place, the CEO, owner, director deciding
that she was going to do that and the mean
women so badly. That does not belong in the public domain.
I don't think. I think when comments like that are
public it's unhelpful to all women, unhelpful to all women

(13:44):
gaining the respects in their careers that they deserve, and
I think it's pretty hurtful.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
What do you think about that these comments around what
Nikola Willis was wearing during her budget speech? Do you
think it is okay to comment on what a woman
wears or do you think that that crosses a line
and that what really should be being discussed is the
content of the speech.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
It's one hundred percent crosses the line, and for the
same reason as those terms were used. So you know,
New Zealand women have worked hard over decades to change
the narrative around their roles so that we've got senior
women in business, health, education, science, technology, politics, you name it.
And I think for the decades of hard work to

(14:34):
be dragged back down into what dress they're wearing is
probably again it's I don't understand how other women can
do that to women who have worked so hard.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Yeah, Sarah, We've got a few more questions for you.
We're going to play some messages, but are you okay
to to stay with us and we'll come back to
you in a couple of minutes. Yes, thank you very much.
We're going to come back with Sarah very shortly. It
is twenty three past one. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 8 (15:08):
Questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Breakfast particular listeners. Well this how much are people going
to spend therefore? How much are they going to depreciate? Therefore?
How much are they not going to pay you tax?

Speaker 7 (15:18):
Well, there's two parts to it.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
There's those who are going to be making investments anyway,
so so then this policy means a bit more cash flow.
And the second thing is how many new investments get
brought forward. That's a bit harder to judge, but when
we look around the world, evidence is pretty clear that
people will make investments they wouldn't have otherwise made if
we over deliver on this, and it costs more because
more people are investing, I think the growth dividend will

(15:40):
be well worth it because that means figure jobs, more
pay more opportunities for New Zealanders.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Back tomorrow at six am, the mic hosking breakfast with
the rain drove of the lame newstalk ZB.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about misogyny women
versus women misogyny on two incidents. One was the very
publicized andry advanced column that called female ministers and government
sea word, girl bosses, hype squad, et cetera, et cetera.
But another one over the week end where a female
fashion designer was taking umberridge at what Nicola Willis was

(16:12):
wearing during budget Day.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, and the vast majority of people have said that
that wasn't you know on the text machine saying that
wasn't a great thing to do from Kathleen Carolyn Mass.
I've been saying a name on Carolyn marm. She's sure
she's pleased with getting a name. Executive We slightly hasler,
but this texture says, oh my god, I am a
woman and I don't get the fast. The fact we
are even talking about this is ridiculous. It wasn't about

(16:35):
an ugly dress, et cetera. It was about supporting New
Zealand diners designers for goodness sake. But what that person's
missing is how often have they pointed out what men
are wearing and expecting men and parliament to support New
Zealand designers. Yeah, you knows. As cross Presshup came out
and said recently he went through his suit what he

(16:56):
was wearing, and no one had ever asked him that. Okay,
we don't have that audio.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
We'll come back. We'll come back with Chris Boship very shortly.
But let's go back to Sarah. Sarah, we were having
a great discussion with you before the break, and so
the question I had for you was, and you mentioned
both the column from Enery Advance but also this article
on the weekend, do you think it is getting more
prominent that there is women coming after other women? And

(17:26):
if it is getting more prominent, why why is it
because some women see other females as an easier target.
I just don't understand why that would be the case.

Speaker 7 (17:37):
I think what we have is a group of very senior,
talented cabinet ministers who happen to be women, and whether
you agree with their politics or not, they've only got
there because they've done a lot of very hard yards
in their career to get there. And I think what

(17:57):
we have for people who don't agree with their politics
and have politicized their gender through the media, And so
you asked me before, do I think it's crossing the line? Absolutely,
I do, And unfortunately, I think what we've got people
I would actually call it harassment in bullying, and I

(18:18):
think if it were happening in a workplace, it would
be called bullying. So those if you think about those
words that we used, you know, if you talked about
a senior female in a workplace, called her the C word,
she's just a girl boss, she's the leader of the
hope squad. You'd be in front of the HR department
in five seconds and then starting to peck on the

(18:39):
way that somebody's dressing and a really senior person in
a role and you say, and you're commenting on her
clothing like that, it is actually bullying. There's no other
word for it. And we have got people in the
media women who are bullying other women. That's actually how
I see it. Where the people agree with me or not,

(19:00):
but I think it's pretty clear. And the thing about
bullying is it catches on. So you've got Andrea Vance,
who really set the bar pretty high there using words
like sea word, girl boss, height squad, girl meth like,
very very demeaning words, and so now we have other
female journalists who feel like it's permission to you know,

(19:23):
it's open season and right down to someone's clothing. I
guess next with him to hear about her here and makeup.
I find it really a sense of myself. I think,
if you think about young women, what are they meant
to see from that? So the next generation of young
women who are in front of us, all they're going
to see Gospagetz at the top of the tree. That's

(19:45):
actually what happens now.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Sarah, just to put the other side of it, and
the most charitable sort of analysis on what was meant
by this local designer who was calling this total disrespect,
I guess the way you could look at it is
that she saw at an opportunity for a very high
profile female politician to do something to support the New

(20:09):
Zealand fashion industry. And the truth of the matter is, look,
I mean, I'm just speaking for me, but I don't
know anything about clothes and I don't care about clothes.
So when I look at what people are wearing, I
just don't know anything about It's nothing that interests me.
But it does seem, you know, and there's different people
and between the sexes, there's different levels of this and
different levels of that, but overall females seem to be

(20:34):
more interested in fashion and what particular clothes other females wear.
So the most charitable way you could look at these
comments from this fashion designer is that it was an
opportunity missed to promote local fashion and help the fashion industry.
Do you see what I'm saying?

Speaker 9 (20:55):
Yes, I see that.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
I think that the woman who made the comment about
the clothing has completely missed the point. So Nikola Willis
was there with a huge innovation in the with the
investment boost for business, and I think that this person,
instead of worrying about whether she liked Nichola's blue dress

(21:20):
or not, should have been considering that the investment boost
for business allowed her a very significant benefit top to
bring in new equipment into her business and gave a
real incentive for capital expenditure that would have actually created

(21:41):
additional spending out in New Zealand five business through business,
creating extra jobs. And instead she focused on what Nichola
was wearing. So I would actually ask what kind of
business person that person is?

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Yeah, I nicely said, Sarah, thank you very much, having
a chat with us really appreciated. Oh one hundred and
eighteen eighty is the number to call your thoughts on
a couple of instances of women having to go with
other women. The latest one was over the weekend where
a fashion designer New Zealand fashion designer Carolyn Maher had
a go at what Nicola Willis was wearing during the

(22:17):
budget saying it wasn't a key we dress.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Well this Texas says, why did't the New Zealand fashion
designers approach Nicola and offer to dresser? You know, that
would be a that would be a way around it,
just to quietly go and say, look, you're a very
successful New Zealand woman who's in the in the spotlight
a lot of time. You're on the camera a lot.
Let's approach you and get you in some clothes and look,
if any fashion designers want to approach me and send

(22:41):
me some threads.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, he needs it and it's just say that I'll
consider it. It's twenty eight to two, you talk.

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(23:11):
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(23:33):
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Speaker 3 (24:07):
Thank you very much, Railey, and then we're talking about
women on women misogyny. Two incidence is one of the
very publicized and Andrea Vant's article, but another one on
the weekend. We're a New Zealand fashion designer, she's female.
Took umbrage at what Nicola Willis was wearing on budget Day?

Speaker 2 (24:22):
Is this misogyny and as woman misogyny becoming worse and
more acceptable? Is it worse than male on woman misogyny?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
This text says personally, as a bloke happily married for
years to the same woman, I wasn't looking at a
minister Willis as an object. I was, however, disappointed to
discover that she was promoting a British clothes designer instead
of taking a chance to show off Kiwi clothing. All
our ministers should take every opportunity to promote Kiwi. That's
from Tony that he was disappointed discover that she was

(24:51):
promoting a British clothes designer. I don't think she was
promoting anything. No, she was just wearing some clothes. She
was promoting blue. That's about as far as you could
take it, which is fair enough. And it just so
happened that that was from a UK designer. I believe
but I thought Chris Bishop, he made a social media
post in the weekend sort of ridiculing the idea that

(25:13):
a woman would be called up on what she's wearing,
whereas all the other men in Parliament that day no
one even thought or looked at them and asked what
nation their clothes come from. Listen to this now there's
been a lot.

Speaker 11 (25:28):
Of interest from a New Zealand Herald as to what
our Minister of Finance was wearing on Budget Day, but
nobody has asked me. So here I am at Parliament
and post a budget urgency. I thought i'd run you
through what I'm wearing.

Speaker 12 (25:40):
Now.

Speaker 11 (25:40):
Listen this tie I actually got in France. It's a
lovely blue tie. This shirt is a classic New Zealand
three Wise Men blue shirt. The suit is from halfs
down on Lampton Key and I'm pretty sure it's a
rembrand suit of course, from the Hut Wonderful Place. This
is a New Zealand Music Month badge. Now the socks

(26:05):
the socks are from I'm not actually sure. I think
they might be a standard issue black h M pair
of socks.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
And the shoes which need a.

Speaker 11 (26:13):
Bit of a bit of a polish obviously, I think
they are from three wise men as well.

Speaker 8 (26:20):
So there you have it.

Speaker 11 (26:21):
That's what I'm wearing in post a budget urgency. I
know the huge amount of interest in what me and
a bunch of the other men in the National Party
are wearing, just to equalize things up with Nicola What
it's our fantastic Minister of Finance.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, and that is absolutely disgusting from him wearing a
French tie. Yeah, a dirty French tie. Because I was
about to go out and buy a New Zealand tie,
but then I was watching this. I was watching the
coverage of the budget and I saw Chris Bishop and
a French tie. Immediately thought, that's a French tie. Yeah,
and now, boy, oh boy, I'm only buying European ties.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Well, would it kill him to wear some Norsewear socks?
I've got to say. You know, he couldn't tell whether
his socks were H and M or some other generic brand,
but Norseware. I'm wearing my Norseware. You gifted them to
me last week. Beautiful socks.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Oh, great socks and Norsewear socks.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
It's feeling very warm down there, but beautiful socks, nice
and comfy.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Do we know if Nichola Willis was wearing Big Woods.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Where you get her on the show and find out.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Cheryl, welcome to the show. You've worked in the New
Zealand fashion industry, Cheryl?

Speaker 3 (27:24):
Are you, Cheryl?

Speaker 8 (27:26):
Cheryl?

Speaker 3 (27:27):
Gotcha?

Speaker 5 (27:28):
Now?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Sorry about that, Cheryl?

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, sorry, sorry about that.

Speaker 13 (27:31):
My guys, No, no worries at all. Hey, listen, I've
actually just come back from France a couple of days ago,
so I've missed all of this too, and but I
was absolutely discussed to hear what's been going on, and
you know, just just over the last couple of weeks,
and it's it's made me really really disappointed. And I
mean I'm disappointed in the majority of our journalists these

(27:53):
days anyway, but it's made me even more disappointed. But
going back to the manner of hand, as for because
of well, I was wearing something that was designed somewhere else.
I don't have a problem with that. And over the
years I have worked with people who are TV presenters,
et cetera, et cetera, and in the past they have

(28:15):
been off of fabulous clothing to wear as presenters by
designers themselves, and it's been picked up and been used
as a promotional thing. So if this girl woman whoever
she is, a so called designer, was you know it
did not approve of Nick. We're wearing something that came
from a British designer. Maybe she should just send her

(28:38):
an email and say, hey, next time, if you're interested,
come and have a look at what I've got and
I will actually lend you a PAS of my wear
so that you can promote that. You know, that's a
win one for both. But I had to agree with
everything that Sarah had to say before. I was just
absolutely blown away by the standard and the level that

(28:59):
women are coming to in this country.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
It's disgusting.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, it's normally the way you go about it, isn't it.
If you want to want to promote your product, then
in the fashion world then you you know, look at
the met Gala or Oscars or whatever it is, or
just people on Instagram influences. You give them something to
wear and then they'll be like, oh, I'll wear it.
That's fine. It's proberly going public and saying it is.

(29:23):
I think it was described as a total disrespect. I mean, boy,
if that's total disrespect, that there's a there's a low
bar or total disrespect is to just choose to wear,
to choose to wear some clothes that you've found in
the shop and like and have decided to wear a
total disrespect. That seems like a big call to me.
Shrem Yeah.

Speaker 13 (29:44):
Well, the unfortunate thing is we don have a bit
of a problem with the test targ women with it
in Parliament. I've noticed, and the lowering of the sceneards
and especially among some of some of the women. I've
been really disappointed in the standard of dress. But then,
you know, it's the old it's the old story. You know,
you'll have one side at the table that's say, but

(30:05):
we have the right to wear what we want to wear,
and and that should really apply to nickle Willis too.
You know, it should be one rule for one lot
and one rule for another.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
What about we just take this completely off the table
and have some boiler suits that everyone in Parliament wears
when they go into the chamber. They're all exactly the same.
They're unisex, they're just a head to toe boiler or
some kind of has matt suit and they just go
in there and then just take the whole thing right
off the table. Would you support that Sheryl.

Speaker 13 (30:34):
I would imagine somebody would complain about who made the boilers,
they had a powerf attached to them, or whether they
actually had a Maori motif on one sleeve, or you know,
I don't think we're leveling. I just were just like
women in general, especially these journalists who call themselves journalists,

(30:57):
to just sort of take a deep breath and think
about what they're doing. You know, they're just ruining our
reputation as good women in New Zealand. And we have
fabula woman across the port from everywhere, from from our
from our working mums right through to those who are
leading our government.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
So yeah, nicely said Cheryl, thank you very much for
having a chat with us.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Well, this textas says, I'm very importantly listening to what
Chris press at pat to say. Does Chris not wear
undis because he decide everything else he was wearing.

Speaker 3 (31:29):
Yeah, he mentioned the socks, saying just.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
From that, what's mail on male misogyny, Missandree, I'm going
to shame him for commando.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
And the sounds like he's a bold move for a minister.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Sounds like he's going to commando in the house.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call love to hear from you. It is sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
The issues that affect you and a bit of fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Said, be good afternoon. It is fourteen to two. Some
great texts coming through on nine two nine two. This
one said from Scott. Guys, this doesn't matter. Her job
is to deliver a budget, not what she is wearing.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah, exactly, And this Texas says, at least she didn't
nick it. I don't know what that means. I don't
know if Nikola, well, I'm pretty sure she would have
paid for it.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
She sent me.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
What Greg your thoughts on this issue?

Speaker 14 (32:19):
Yeah, I think that it's a bit pretty unprofessional that
he come out and do things like especially saying about
what they're were wearing. When was the last time they
came out and commented on what a guy was wearing.
I think the last thing I remember where they commented
on what a guy was wearing was talking Morgan, and

(32:40):
that was those eighty dollars.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Boxers, right, that's right, Yeah, that seems that seemed crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
That seemed crazy back then. How much he was spending
on boxer shorts. But now, boy boy, I bought some
Calvin Klein the other day and.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Very expensive good undies.

Speaker 15 (32:55):
The taxpayers money.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Yeah, wow, No I did not. Yeah, I mean I
guess the thing with it, as us saying before though,
men primarily, and there's differences across people, but men primarily
don't really care. Like I didn't. I don't look at
what Christopher Luxeen's wearing and go I'll go and buy that. No,

(33:20):
you can't, it's not you're not really selling to other
men with what they're wearing. Although that's not true. I
saw Aaron Smith wearing a hat once in a post
show interview after the Highlanders, and I was immediately online
buying that cap.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, but you're a weirdo when it comes to caps.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
It was a cool Spats cap.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
You've got about three hundred and fifty caps, so that's
no surprise. Yeah, but yeah, I mean to your point, generally,
I think I own two pairs of trousers. In fact,
I know I own two pairs of trousers, and not
once have you looked over you could off and say,
what the hell are you doing? You've worn those pair
of pants two weeks in a row. Yeah, you just
don't care, right, No, No, we don't.

Speaker 14 (33:56):
Care about that. They care about getting on with business,
getting down and getting the job done, like what you're
wearing the second.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (34:04):
I also think that the scene that smells a bit
political because it seems all these people that are making
these comments, like you know, using the sea word and
stuff to describe National Party people. It's all it seems
like it's all political. But you don't see any of
this coming from the right.

Speaker 16 (34:21):
To the left.

Speaker 17 (34:21):
It's all from the left to the right.

Speaker 14 (34:23):
And when it's woman, it always seems like it's character destruction.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, all right, thank you for your call.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Greg Yep nicely said. Right, we're going to play some messages,
but coming up after the break, we're going to have
a chat to Die. She's also worked in the fashion industry,
so this is going to be interesting. It is eleven
to two. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
News TALKSB, News TALKSB. It is eight to two, Die,
you have also worked in the fashion industry.

Speaker 18 (34:58):
I have.

Speaker 9 (34:59):
I lived in Australia for thirty five years and worked
constantly through in the fashion industry, and I'm right behind
what Sarah and Cheryl have been saying. And I think
full marks for Nichola Willis because it's really important that
she choose what she wants to wear that suits her.

(35:22):
And there's a lot of top designers over in Australia
they don't always wear their own brand. And the fact
is that in Nichola Willis's position, I am more important,
more impressed, and it's more important to me with her
role in how she delivers, and you know, how she performs,

(35:44):
and she's a professional and I have so much admiration
and respect for her. She's beautifully presented, and I think
these women who it is misogynist and she's not a maniquin.
Our top people are not maniquins. They're not there to
present the local coffee they drink or whatever. They're there

(36:07):
to do it job and be professional. So yeah, I
think what Chris Bishop did and what Nicholas's own remarks
were totally appropriate.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Now Die you said that, I can't believe I can't
remember the exact words, but you were saying that you know,
she looks how did you describe the way you thought
she looked? That she looked she's well presented. Do do you
think do you when you see male politicians, do you
have that same thought process about them? Do you run that?
Do you run the same critical eye over what they're
wearing as you would what Nicholas wearing.

Speaker 7 (36:42):
No.

Speaker 9 (36:42):
When I say well presented, I'm saying, here is a
professional person dressing for the appropriate attire for the appropriate occasion.
And we've got some very good politicians who they do
They are well turned out as and they look they're
dressed appropriately. They're showing respect to their role, and I

(37:05):
you know, and I think that is the important thing.
And it's what ever Nikola Willis feels comfortable wearing, because
the bottom line is a lot of people are forgetting
that when you go shopping, we choose clothes that we
feel comfortable and that fit us well, and we feel
comfortable and they're not either too out there or two

(37:29):
conservative that they just work for us. And that's her
choices should be respected. And I really really like her.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Yeah yeah, all right, thanks die. Yeah, someone here saying
My point is that you're acting like Nichola Willis as
some kind of victim. I worked with brands that use ambassadors,
and yes, if your high profile, that's what your brands
use to promote their products. That's reality. You should also
be using Jacinda as an example of how vile Keywis
can be. You could write your thesis on the misogyny

(37:57):
that you are doing received from keyboard warriors. Yeah, but
keywood Warriors are very different from mainstream media. You can't
shut up the keyboard Warriors. They're irrelevant exactly in this
chat ye spot on. So it's going to be crazy
people and some of them aren't even humans. Some of
them aren't even real.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yes, some of them are bots. And this sticks years afternoon, guys,
After years in high level corporates, I can honestly say
that females were always the more misogynistic towards other females
than the men were. Women are often incredibly challenging to
report to and work with, often more than other men.
Stuff's management need to take a look at a hard
look at themselves after that article.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Yeah, and can guys just say, from my perspective, looking
at what Tyler's wearing, would it kill you and make
a bit of.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Effort you too, mate. I'm going to say, you know you'
letting the standards slip a little Bit's come on.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
If you guys can see what he's wearing, you have
no respect from it.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
All right, good discussion, Thank you very much to everybody
who phoned and text. We're going to change it up
after two o'clock. We want to talk about the rowal
kiwis can't seem to follow. You all know the ones.
It's on the right hand lane. Those who decide to
go very slow. It's not the fast lane for a
lot of kiwis. Why is that? We will find out

(39:07):
very short. Lee oh eight one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call if you want to
see a text messager more than welcome. Nine two ninety
two is that number. New Sport and Weather on its way.
You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very very good afternoon to.

Speaker 8 (39:19):
You talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 8 (40:01):
It be.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
News talks. It'd be good afternoon. See just before we
move on, i'mout trying put on a brave face, but
it is stinking hot in here. Yeah, you've cranked that.
Matt Heath has cranked the aircon in here. I think
it's about twenty seven at the moment. It's slowly creeping
to about that.

Speaker 8 (40:18):
Well.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I come from a radio station where we were allowed
to control our own air conditioning. Yet to write an
email upstairs to change the air conditioning. Yeah, So I
love the huge amount of control we have on the
heat of our studio, the Microsking Memorial Studio. So I've
just seen the limits of it. Can we can we
get this studio up to thirty five? Can we get
a tropical atmosphere in here just by pumping the temperature.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I'd quite like the rule downstairs to be implemented. And
here I'd go further actually, that all changes to the
aircon has to go through my cosskin. I think you'd
like that as well.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Wouldn't he keep it at the same temperature as the
toom he sleeps in at night?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Very good?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Hey, we got out of that last hour live talking
about female and female misogyny. Yes, so let's take it
to the roads, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
Let's take it to the road. So the road rule
that kiwis can't seem to follow. So chances are you've
come across the notorious right lane. A hog the driver
who sticks in the right lane going just below the
speed limit, unaware or indifferent to the queues of frustrated drivers.
So why do we do this?

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Yeah, it seems Is it just that people are forgetting
where they are because they're just cruising along? Because I
did this recently. I was down in Featherston and I
was driving over to great.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Town, great place, Featherstone, just jumping there.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
So it's great Town, beautiful. But I was driving along
and then I realized that had a huge queue of
people behind me. And then I looked down and realized
I was driving at eighty k because I was looking
at the looking around like a total wound or at
all the beautiful scenery they hadn't seen before. Right, God,
great Town's a good place.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
There's a beautiful place.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
But let's move the show to great Town anyway. But
the point is, is it just people zoning out or
do they not know? And you know, there's no excuse
to zone out when you're driving. You should be aware
all the time. But so many people cruise along in
that fast lane slow.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I think here's my theory, I think fifty percent or
oblivious like you, you're so enamored with the scenery that
you've got no idea that there's fifty cars behind you,
getting angry and angrier that who is this muppet up there?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
And let's be clear, you should be enamored with the
back of the car in front of you and not
the scenery.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Yeah, yeah, very good advice. But I think the other
fifty percent, it's almost like a bit of a pissing
contest that there's something ingrained in our psyche that we
see it as a personal slight when we let somebody
past us, particularly when that other person wants to speed,
and speeding it's illegal, right, and if you speed, chances

(42:44):
are you may get caught. But who are you, as
just a lowly old driver on the motorway or highway
to dictate how far somebody else goes if somebody wants
to go a little bit over the limit?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Yeah, right over.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
It just feels like it's ingrained to say I am
taking control of the highways here. I'm going to be
a self enforced police officer, and you're going to stay
behind me no matter what you like.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Max Forsteppan Yeah, the Monaco grom analogy. He was trying
to slow everyone down. He was waiting for some kind
of safety car situation and he was slowing up Lando Norris.
So char Leclere could get right up as.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
But spot on good analogy.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
We're not all max for stepping at the Monica Grand
Peed anyway. That's what I stayed up last night to watch.
So hence, if I'm not speaking properties because I didn't
get much sleep.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Well, we want to hear from you on this. So
I one hundred and eighty ten eighty about these right
lane hogs and the ones doing just under the speed limit.
Why can't we follow this particular road rule? But a
follow up question is do we need to introduce refresher
courses when it comes to the driver's code.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
Yeah, and if so, because a lot of people don't
know that. I think a lot of people you'd go, well,
you're if you're in the far right lane, then that
unless you're passing, then you're breaking the law. Yeah, you
can get ticketed for that. So unless you're passing, you
shouldn't be in that lane, right. I think a lot
of people wouldn't know that, right. There's a lot of
people that there's a lot of things that a lot
of people don't know. So what are those things O
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty that we need to

(44:07):
be refreshed on. What do you say when you're driving
around New Zealand cities and out on the road, where
you think this is something that that person doesn't know
that they should know and we need to refresh people on.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
This will be good. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call eleven past.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Two your home of afternoon talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons call eight hundred eighty ten eighty youth Talk said.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
Be thirteen past two. And we're talking about the right
lane rule, the speeding lane so to speak. It is
a road rule that Kiwis can't seem to follow. Why
is that? But also do we need to introduce refresher
courses for our driver's licenses? And if we do, what
things do we need to refresh ourselves on?

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Guys, great subject, love the show. I was getting bent
out of shape over this exact thing just last week
and it was a cop hoogging the right lane. Oh,
they're probably allowed to. Another hot point for me is
park lights. On as it's getting dark, you're not parked,
don't use them. Full disclosure. I've got no idea about
when you use what. I don't even know what park

(45:11):
lights are. I maybe should hand in my license. I
don't really know what park lights are or driving lights,
what lights are? What my car is automatic? It just
turns on exactly.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
That's all I was going to say.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
My carving depths now when you've got oncoming traffic, so
it goes full beam up and down. So and how
quickly do you forget this? Because I've probably had cars,
probably only for the last ten years that do all
those kind of things, and now I've completely forgot what
park lights are or anything to do with lights.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
You just let the automatic sort it out. Is the
same in my car, but just quickly on the headlights.
The brightness of headlights is that has ratcheted up in
the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yeah? Right? Has it a A?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
I know there was just there was a question.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
A right.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
It just feels like everybody's on full beams these days.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Now, this is the questions come through. I'd like to
know the answer to on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty,
But are you allowed to exceed the speed limit when
you pass someone. I thought that was just one of
the gray areas of life that sometimes you need you
to go above the speed limit to pass someone. But
I would imagine and that you isn't legal to go
over the speed limit, as a bunch of people are
texting when you're passing someone, because why do you need

(46:14):
to pass them? If you have to go over the
speed limit to pass them.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
I'll tell you why, and I don't know the answers
are that. But the reason you need to do that
is it's because those numpties that do aighty k until
they get to a passing lane and then all of
a sudden speed up to one hundred. So you have
to go a little bit over the speed link that'll happen.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
You notice you're driving slow and you go, oh and
so you speed up. Simon, welcome to show your thoughts
on this, Simon.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Si gared A. Simon, Are you there?

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Simon?

Speaker 3 (46:43):
Simon?

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Hello?

Speaker 3 (46:46):
At there he is?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
How are you? Simon? Welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (46:50):
Sorry, guys, don't know what happened there? Boy, have you
found my subject today? Says I lived overseas for a
good number of years in the UK and motorway driving
over there. I hate to say this about the pomes.
They like to winge by the bloody better and driving
on the motorway, there's a culture keep left unless your

(47:10):
path and help traffic to flow. Okay, there's about seventy
million people over there for the you have to do
it to make the country function. But we have people
that just block it up. And if you flash behind
them politely, just splash once and they pull over. They
actually get it in their heads as soon as you're
on parts and you see them pull back out into
the parts lave yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Right.

Speaker 16 (47:31):
And I'm on a personal mission to educate people because
as soon as I've gone past, I pull into the
left lane that you show them we're all doing it.
I might have flashed you, but I play by the
same rules. And I'm trying to start a campaign here.
I believe the first Tuesday of every month we should
have nationally, especially in Auckland. Don't drive like a deck day.

(47:53):
Keep traffic flowing, and I bet I bet everyone will
notice they got to where they're going about forty to
teen quicker.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I like that. I like that, don't drive like a
deck day. We can get behind that that's good. So yeah,
I mean, and that's something else happens. There is the
enforcement of this. So if there's someone that's just cruising along,
like they are allowed to just live in the far
right lane, they're just lead to cruise along there. Then
often you'll get en forces that come right up their
ass just to make the point, right, You get people

(48:23):
that are tailgating just to make the point that you
shouldn't be sitting in there, and then that leads to
other people driving dangerously as they try and police the
roads themselves.

Speaker 16 (48:33):
Yeah, it does, and you shouldn't tell gate Like when
I flash people, I'm coming up on them and it's
just a one flash. I'm not like flashing constantly in
their mirror, and it's it's just it's iniquity. Like it's
just got to get New Zealand is bad for this.
We're greater to put in the all blacks, but then
on the roads and so there's got to get on

(48:53):
their culture of help traffic flow because it gets what
it helps them as well.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, I wonder if the the you know in the UK,
because you get used to it on the on the subways,
standing on you know, how you stand on the escalator.
It's drilled into you. If you're in a hurry, you
go on the you stand on the right, going up right,
and and people are very very very very harsh on that.
You know, you stand on the right, which is the
opposite of the situation on the roads to let people

(49:21):
go up the left right, that's right on the escalators,
and that is police Like if you if you're just
hanging out on the wrong side, not moving, then then
then someone will be like, oy the way you mop here?
What are you doing? Yeah, you're mop here?

Speaker 12 (49:34):
I heard that in England, actually stepping here on the
wrong side time in London, and someone corrected me and
I actually went, oh, sorry, it didn't know. And guess
what I got with the program thereafter, because why i'd
be the person that just stops everything. We've all got
to share this world together.

Speaker 18 (49:53):
You need to work it.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, thank you for you, col Simon. Can I just
complain on an offer you. Something that I think someone
should be tasered for is when you're at the airport
and you're coming down the escalator and it says it's
got this automated message that tells everyone to be careful
when exiting the escalator. Yes, watch mind your step when
you're exiting the escalator at the airport.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
That just goes all day and out, as if there's
a single person in the world that doesn't know how
to get off an escalator. The amount of energy that
they're wasting running that message over and over telling people
how to do something as basic as getting off an escalator.
That drives me absolutely crazy. And you know how expensive
it is. The Auckland, the airport I'm talking about here.

(50:33):
This is when you're hitting down towards the exit gates,
you know, when you come off the plane, your departure,
your arrival, you know. I mean, they could save some
money right there by shutting down that stupid sign.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
They could do.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
I mean, what's the worst thing that could happen? Someone
trips slightly coming off the escalator.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
That's it happens all the time. But maybe because they
see that sign and they start to panic.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Sign I put a sign up. It's just this audio
that plays constantly.

Speaker 3 (50:58):
I haven't heard that. It's audio.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
It's just constantly. Mind. I'm going to record it next
time because it drives me so crazy. It's the infantie,
it's the it's the there's a word for it, the
infantine lace. Work on the word infantizing, infantizing, let's say,
advertizing of people treating everyone like a baby.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
One one foot in front of the other. Yeah, Oh,
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
if you want to have a chat about the escalators,
you're more than welcome. But also this rule that we
can't seem to follow right hand lane, the fast lane?
Why can't we follow it? And do we need refresher
courses when it comes to our driver's license? It is
twenty pasts two back very shortly here on News Talks, EDB.

Speaker 8 (51:43):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth Talks, EDB.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Good afternoon. We're talking about the fast lane. It's the
road real kiwis can't seem to follow. But also asked
the question do we need refresher courses when it comes
to our driving?

Speaker 2 (51:58):
And the word I was looking for is the infantilistization
infantilization of society as what we're talking about.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
And you're talking about the escalator that we audio that
plays on a loop in the Auckland Airport it's almost
like slow torture.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Yeah. So we're kind of running two lines here that
are almost contradictorary because I'm saying that, but I'm also
saying that we need to run a no dick. You know,
we need to re educate people on how to drive. Yeah,
this person says, you're pathetic. Oh thanks, okay, thanks wreck. Yeah.
Park lights are for when you park on the side
of the road, fog lights for in fog driving, lights

(52:33):
for driving on the open road. The word gives you
the hints.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
But what you said there is your Castle's it out
for you now. There's no need for you to you know, I.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Was saying, Warwick, I'm on your side. I'm saying that
I have been I have been infantilized by my car.
But my cars for the last ten years have been
doing everything for me, and as a result, I've lost
the ability. It's like the way the Kiwi lost its wings.
But it got too easy. There's no natural predators out there.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
You know.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
I'm not getting hassled for having the wrong lights on
because my car is doing it for me. Anyway.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty to eighty is the number
to call. Josh how you doing.

Speaker 15 (53:08):
Yeah, okay, guys, I reckon we should reduce the number
of road codes in the country and then redirect that
into a public campaign about educating people about road ediquit
and manners, particularly around it long weekends and Christmas time,
just reminder ads, you know, and it could just be hey,
pool left if you're not passing, or all of those

(53:32):
sort of things. But either think, I mean, there's some
people that would be incredulous and think, well, you know,
I paid for the road and not out that attitude,
But I think that's a small number. I think most
people are just blissfully unawares. And I do a lot
of driving. I probably do about fifty k's a year,
and I drive the whole.

Speaker 19 (53:52):
Length of the country.

Speaker 15 (53:53):
And one thing is I kind of know the roads,
you know, And I think a lot of people they
don't know the roads. And it's just little things like anticipation.
If you're going through Wayuru and you get through that
windy bit, you know where it's twenty thirty k there's
an opportunity for about three hundred meters to pass a
couple of trucks. But you need to know that that's there,

(54:15):
and you need to anticipate that and if you've driven
that road, you think, hey, there's ten people behind me,
so I'll be on that little passing lane as quick
as i can and get in front of this truck
and sever an house can pass. But I think you know,
anticipation awareness, spatial awareness, looking at your mirrors. I think
a lot of people they just get in there and
they're blissfully unaware.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, saying the other day about just anticipation. Obviously you
drive the road a lot, so you know a lot.
But even just we were talking about the satur day
and someone was saying, drive considering two kilometers ahead at
any given time, So you're always considering not just you
know the three second rule, but you're also looking into
the far distance and thinking about whatever's quite a way

(54:55):
in front of you.

Speaker 15 (54:57):
Well, it's a visual it's a visual sport, you know,
you want to call it that, you know, because I
mean it's the one thing you can't do with your
eyes closed. And so you know you've got you've got
the mirrors there for reason, just like you've got a
seat belt. There's a reason for it, right, And I
just think that now, like say, if you ride a motorbike,
everything's on your vision because you know you've got to

(55:17):
be looking ahead, you've got to be looking at hazards
on the road because you can't just drive over gravel
like a car. You've got to hit the corner at
the right place, entry speed, exit speed. It's just you
kind of have to just know what you're doing. And
I just feel like people hop in a car and
it's probably the most dangerous activity for the average person
they will ever undertake in their whole life. They won't

(55:39):
jump out of a plane with a parachute, but they'll
hop on that car and they'll do that mundane drive
every day. And I think it's like complacency.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Yeah, I think there's a thing that's going on.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
It kind of plays into the safetyism of society that
sounds like it might be contradictory ideas, But if if
you're going down an escalator and you're told constantly to
watch your step when you get off, then I think
young people coming through feel like everything's going to be
sorted for them. And then when you get out into
a car, you have to make a whole lot of decisions,
and they can be life or death situations where you

(56:09):
actually need to be the kind of person that's competent
and learned to look out for dangers. So the more
we can you see kind of what I'm saying, It's
kind of like two contradictory ideas. But the one place,
and I say this to my kids all the time,
the most as you say, Josh, the most dangerous thing
you will ever do in your life is drive between cities.
Absolutely dangerous.

Speaker 15 (56:30):
So go back that up with acc I mean, you know,
like I mean, you know, people can work under and
the helicopters and and they'll drive home and get and
kill them killed.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
In the car.

Speaker 15 (56:40):
Yeah, well by somebody else. So because you're also not
relying on yourself, you're relying on someone else. Yeah, and
you might be a great driver and get taken out
by someone who's just done a silly thing.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
I wonder if it is, Josh, sorry to jump in there,
I wonder if it is. You know, Matt, you talked
about the auto lights you got going on, or you
don't have to worry about gears. I imagine you got
cruise controlled because it's a beautiful car. All that stuff
is great. At least you are learning to drive. I
mean that means you just go into autopilot mode, and
as you say, Josh blissfully blissfully is unaware, dangerous people.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Everyone's crucifying us. And the text message about calling it
the fast lane, but you know what we mean by
the fast lane, the passing the right lane. But but
that's the thing. There's so many people just seeing zoned out,
just driving along at the you know, holding people up,
not getting out of the passing lane when they're and
just using that because they're zoned out, because the car
does everything for them until it doesn't.

Speaker 15 (57:34):
Well, it's called being present, doesn't that. I think that,
you know, like it's something I concentrate on, and I
take it very seriously. I'm always present. I'm always the
person that will offer to drive everyone else because I
know that when I sit on that seat, I am present,
you know, and I'm not going to farm out my
safety to too many other people, and so I take
it seriously. I think your professional drivers, like your truck drivers,

(57:57):
are people who drive equipment. They know the consequences of
mistakes because you know these things they can't stop easy
or you know, there's there's there's a bit of danger
in there. And I think people like this cruise control
and active lane as I hate all that stuff because
I want to be in charge of the vehicle, not
not farming out to somebody else. And I think a

(58:18):
bit like you're thinking, we do. I tell you what,
you couldn't get two people and a beautifully flat surface
like a big open car park to drive towards each
other at one hundred kilometers an hour and day. I
need you to do that, but I only want three
three feet exactly between your.

Speaker 17 (58:36):
Couldn't do it.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Yeah, that's a really good way. That's a really good
way to describe it.

Speaker 15 (58:41):
They need the white line.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Yeah, yeah, Hey, thank you so much for your call. Josh,
right hand, you know fast, we just got the texases.
Just call it right here and I'm going far right.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Why can't we call it the fast lane. You don't
understanda I call it whatever I wanted. Yeah, in the
first lane.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
Come on, yeah, I'll call it the speeding lane if
I want. Don't try and dictate my speech. Don't try speech,
don't try and control my thought. Police, come on, get
out of Monday.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Known oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call after the headlines. I've just spotted
a very very controversial text. I'll read out a little
bit of that text coming up. I'm going to have
to censor some words in there, but I'll read that
out in its entirety if I can. It has bang
on past two.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
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(59:51):
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(01:00:33):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Thank you very much. Ray Lane. And we're talking about
driving in the fast lane. I'm sticking with fast land. Yeah,
come for me if you want on nine two nine two.
But on the right hand lane. We all know it,
and apparently Kiwis can't seem to follow that rule.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Very I think you can just live in there. You can't.
You're only in there when you're passing and you get
back into the lane, the other lane, in the middle
lane if you want, or if you're super slow, you
go into the other lane. People need to know that.
But we're also saying that, Look, there's a lot of
these things that people just don't know. There's people out
there driving that don't know any of these roles. I
think a lot of people that are in that fast

(01:01:25):
lane don't know, don't know that you're They just think
that's an opportunity. If there's less people in it, then
that's their gap.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
They're not being malicious, they just don't know. But that
is the fast lane. Yeah, if you're in that lane,
you've got to go fast.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
So I eight hundred and eighty ten eighty things that
people don't seem to know that they should know. That
would make the roads flow a lot better. Now, I
was saying before about get really annoyed, and this is
on and off the topic. Get terribly annoyed when I'm
at the airport and they just have this constant audio
playing every twenty seconds when you're coming down the escalator

(01:01:58):
saying mind just step when you're getting off the escalator,
And I just think it's the infantilization of humanity the
safety culture. It's like, it's insulting to think that I
can't get off an escalator. This EXTA sees airports have
that message on the airport escalators as part of their
liabilities under the Health and Safety Act of two thousand
and four. If there's a mishap, then the authority will
be all over them like white on rice fees and

(01:02:19):
sewing cheers and Yeah, but that's then that means whoever
is responsible for that in the Health and Safety Act
of two thousand and four should be tasted for it.
This this text is said, and they've texted about ten times.
I've retrieved a bunch of fingers and toes from escalators.
It's not much fun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
Wow, Really, we need more, we need more information. I
get the context of that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
Yeah, how do you get your fingers and toes into
an escalator? It's got the little slightly bit and do you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
Work a forty hour week for that? I mean, how many.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
People people riding the escalator and beer feet and it happens?
I mean, who's getting off a plane and beer feet
and the risk of their fingers and toes? How do
you get your fingers into an escalator?

Speaker 12 (01:02:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
I can understand toes, fingers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
I mean I've read somewhere that escalators are the safest
one of transport in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
You see where it goes wrong though, and it's not
it's not good.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
No, that's lifts. No, that's lifts.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
But yeah, really, fingers and toes text and we want
to hear more.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You've texted five times the same text on the fingers
and toes where Now, yeah, you're right, Tyler, we need
more information on that story.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
And we chase that person up Andrew. We'll just see
if we can get them on the blower.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Craig, you reckon. There's three types of people on the road.

Speaker 17 (01:03:26):
Yeah, man, I do. I'm with you, Matt. I think
the auto motorways the worst for it. When you're seeing
to get out on the bomb Bays. On those expressways,
you don't tend to have the bottom so much. But
I think you've got a person that's not confident driving,
and they know if they get in that right lane
at Silverdale, they can get all the way to the
Bombay Hills and it'll take them all those ways through safely.

(01:03:50):
So they just stick in that lane knowing that it'll
get them right for a walk clan without a handful,
and as soon as they get out of Walford, they'll
tend to stick in the left late. You've got also
got the people that and I can't stand. They'll stick
to the speed limits. That's the speed limit, that's the

(01:04:12):
that's my right and I'll stay here, you know. And
then they're the biggest problem because you don't know why
someone's having to go fast that day. And and there's
some good, valid reasons why some people have to rush,
you know. And so I think the big one is

(01:04:33):
not confident drivers and especially in the Auckland Motorway, they
know that they can stick on that one lane and
it will get them right through.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
Yeah, and so they.

Speaker 17 (01:04:42):
Do it, you know, whereas the middle lanes for that
that gets them right through it. Well, but they don't
need to know that one.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah. I just don't think people know.

Speaker 20 (01:04:52):
No.

Speaker 17 (01:04:52):
And it's like the left lane to me on the motorway,
the left lanes to get off and off you're in
the middle, yes, once you're on the motorway.

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
Yeah, So you get on the motorway and you're in
the left lane, and then you make your way to
the middle lane unless you're passing someone, and then you
go into the right lane. And if you've passed that
person in the middle lane, you then go back into
the middle lane. And then as you say, Craig, when
you get when you're about to get off, you then
make your way over to the left lane.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah, makes sense because there's no reason you should be
in the right lane. It's not like you can get
off the motor on the right lane. So there's no
reason to be in that unless you're living life in
the first lane.

Speaker 17 (01:05:27):
That is the first lane, okay, and peak our traffic
in the morning. I'm going to truck every morning, and
a peak our traffic. I get on the motorway at
Silverdale and I get it all the way through to
the Harbor Bridge without breaking, and I just keep trucking
a low gear. I stick in the middle lane, and
the cars go miles ahead, and then I'm up on them,

(01:05:47):
and they by the time i'm on them, they're moving.
But I don't have to break once, but everyone else
is on and off. It breaks constantly, and it's just
I don't know what it is. People just don't watch.
Some let people in, and they they're most courteous when
all the traffic lights are out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Well yeah, yeah, when something goes mem politeness comes out.

Speaker 17 (01:06:10):
And the traffic flows so much better without the traffic lights,
you know, because people let people in.

Speaker 3 (01:06:17):
Yeah, yeah, I'd agree with that. I mean, surely, Craig,
there's a large part of arrogance here. Maybe not on
the Auckland motorways, but when I say the White Cattle Express,
when I've been on that and someone's been in the
right lane and they go and bang on a hundred
and it might be one hundred and ten. I assume
those people there's a touch of arrogance there that they

(01:06:38):
think they do in the speed limit and nobody else
is going to get around them.

Speaker 17 (01:06:42):
Oh that's one. And they want to place the road
for everybody. But I don't see that so much on
those expressways. In fact, I don't know. I never really
see that. You know, I can go through it a
one hundred and fifteen because it's one hundred and ten
and it's you don't at that highest speed, you don't
seem to get the people holding you up in the

(01:07:02):
right hand lane as you do on the Orcy Motorway.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, I'll think if you all, Craig, see this is
what Don Henley was singing in the Eagles, wasn't he
in seventy one? Yeah, when you see I say, laugh
in the fast lean Charlotte and make you lose your man,
laugh in the vast lane.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
He nailed it. Listen to him nice sinking as well, Matt.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
He was talking about New Zealand traffic and people's propensity
to lose their mind and zone out. We're in there
passing passing the right Laneyah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
What a karaoke tune as well.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's harder to sing than you think. I mean,
I nailed it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:38):
You did pretty well. Then you got to say, actually,
world up.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
You know, it's probably a few few octaves off where
Don had on it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. We'll take more of your thoughts on this
very shortly, and if you want to change nine nine
two you see something.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I'll just have to sort of weigh up whither I'm
going to read that text out or not. I think
I will.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Okay, that's going to be going nineteen to three shocking.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Mattie Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls on
Mattie Taylor Adams Afternoons used talk.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
Sa'd be very good afternoon to you. So we're talking
about why Kiwis don't understand the right right lane rule
when it comes to being in the fast lane, and
it is the fast lane if you want to get
somewhere a little bit quicker than other people who were
going under the speed limit, the right lane is the
lane you need to be in. But apparently kiwis don't
understand that. But we've also asked, if we're going to

(01:08:32):
introduce some sort of refresher course for driver's licenses, what
other mistakes do we make constantly on the road.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Great text from Reuben here that I can't read out.
It's very sexual metaphors run there. Amuses me, but probably
not for the airwaves.

Speaker 3 (01:08:47):
And quite spot on as well. If only we could
read that out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
I mean, it describes it exactly the situation.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
It does great analogy, but in such lude.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Sexual terms that I'm sure I could read it out. Hey,
this is the text here that I've decided to read out,
even though I probably shouldn't. Yep, and interesting because I've
decided not to read out that sexual one, which I
think was it made a lot of sense. But I
will read out this one, okay, which which I'll be
interested to people hear people thoughts. I see myself as
a road vigilante CSUS TEXTA. Someone has to do it.

(01:09:15):
If someone is driving in the right hand land and
lane and not moving out, I'll pass them on the inside,
pull in just in front of them, and then start
speeding up and slowing down to mess with them if
they move to the middle. I follow you woke soft seas.
We'll probably cry about this, but at least I'm doing
something about the problem and not just whinging about it

(01:09:35):
on the radio.

Speaker 3 (01:09:36):
Wow. Well the seat you and you Windo was was minimal,
But that is that's a hell of a stance to take.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
Have you ever heard him say I see myself as
a vigilantes? Never a good start. If you ever see
yourself as a vigilante, that's when it's time to pump
the brakes.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
So what if you have to if you see that
guy out on the road just sick.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
Part of the pud not pump the brakes like this, guys,
pump the brakes and your vigilanteism. Christine, welcome to the show.
You're not the possessed car, Christine? Are you?

Speaker 18 (01:10:04):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:10:04):
That's not me?

Speaker 18 (01:10:05):
No, that's good. I just ring in the out The
people who sit in the right hand lane's there's a
really simple solution that's done overseas on the right hand
line above the bridges, et cetera. But just a sign
is saying overtaking only.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Yeah, I've never seen that sign.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
Do they have been on passing lanes?

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
You've seen it? Have you seen it.

Speaker 18 (01:10:26):
Christ it's on the right hand lane overseas. I've seen it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
I missed overseas. Yeah, I just have never seen it.

Speaker 16 (01:10:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:10:34):
So and that's all it takes, and that's that solves it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I think you're right. I think
no one. I think no one. No one knows. I
mean not no one knows. But I think a lot
of the people that are doing this just just blindly
don't know. They think that they're just driving along. They're
happy as there, and they think, oh, this is an
interesting lane. There don't seem to be a.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Lot of people in it. I'll just stay here. Maybe
it's the multi lane thing that confuses people, because arguably,
if you've got four lanes, then three of them can
be considered right right lanes.

Speaker 18 (01:11:04):
Well, the sign is over the outside right hand lane,
which decided that somebody the country you're in, so that
lane is Stata airs it's overtaking only.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
Yeah. Oh well, yeah, thank you. If you call Christine,
we do seem to see a lot of signs for
a lot of other things.

Speaker 3 (01:11:20):
Yeah, great movie and book by the way, Chris, Christine, Yeah,
good movie. Yeah, frightening, very scary. Possessed car yeah, hey boys.
One thing that really frustrates me is the flow of
traffic is people not pulling over to the left, just
that one down there pulling over to the left when turning,
especially when roads are wide and there is that strip

(01:11:40):
to the left of the lane. They slow down and
the main flow of traffic slowing everyone else behind them.
They just don't seem to have any realization of traffic
behind them. I see it every day, five times a day.
I thought I was taught to pull left, mind you,
that was forty plus years ago. Yeah, that is a
great point. So that is when you're someone wants to
turn off to maybe a group of shots or the mall,

(01:12:03):
and there's a wee left hand element that they can
kind of go that way, get off the main road,
and then start to turn left into wherever they're going. Yeah,
a lot of people just stay on the main load
and then hard left or hard break instead of just
moving slightly to the left where there's a wee lane
that has been created for you to just slowly. I

(01:12:23):
see what you're saying, go where you need to go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Yeah. I mean some of that can be put down
to panicking and missing missing your turn off and those
kind of things.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
There's a lot of that as well. Yeah, Darren, how
are you this afternoon?

Speaker 15 (01:12:38):
Yeah, good, thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
And thoughts on the passing lane, it's not a.

Speaker 14 (01:12:44):
Yeah there's a passing lane.

Speaker 20 (01:12:45):
Yeah, the passing lane to use it the path of car.
If there's nothing else you need to pass, we'll move
to the left.

Speaker 3 (01:12:53):
Yeah, no, I'll just because you were going to give me,
give me a bit of a bit of stick for
calling at the fast lane, which is fair enough, darre
and so you reckon it should be called the passing
lane for good reason that it's there to pass people
rather than go fast.

Speaker 20 (01:13:07):
Yeah, it's not there for you just said at one
hundred k or eighty k or anything. That's just simply
there for you to pass another car. A big example
was in the UK when I first drove in the UK.
They they were horrified that I was sitting in.

Speaker 18 (01:13:21):
An outside lane.

Speaker 20 (01:13:22):
And then I went in and I passed the car
on the inside lane and oh my god, I think
it was like I killed someone.

Speaker 15 (01:13:31):
But you're not allowed to pass on the inside lane
and the.

Speaker 20 (01:13:33):
UK on any motorway, yeah right, so yeah, that was
in the UK. You can drive for I don't know,
twenty thirty hundred miles and you'll never see anyone in
the right hand lane. Yeah, yeah, everyone's in the left
doing the speed limit.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
See, Darren, I'm on your side now, because before I
blow up and I tell people not I'm not interested
in compelled speech, don't tell me not to call it
the farce lane. But I see your point. Everyone did.
Just call it the passing lane. I know what the
fast lane means, that you go in there when you
need to pass someone. But you're quite right if we
just call it the passing lane and the people at least
know what you're supposed to doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Yeah, and as well argued that if it's a far flame,
what speed should you be doing that outside. That's a good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Point because because arguably there's only one speed you should
be doing really well, one speed you shouldn't be going
to have.

Speaker 20 (01:14:24):
Another issue I think you have in the city is
going down a bit of a dark path.

Speaker 17 (01:14:28):
But there's a lot of immigrants.

Speaker 20 (01:14:30):
Down in the cities, and I know for a fact
that like my wife brought to your license before she
got to New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Really and oh yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:14:41):
Yeah, if you've got a like I've got Filipino mates
and that, and once they get their license, like they
just hand your license in New Zealand and you're getting
New Zealand one.

Speaker 17 (01:14:49):
You don't have to sit a.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Test, right, You're not. Wow, I don't want to.

Speaker 15 (01:14:54):
Go down like people thinking I'm rang.

Speaker 20 (01:14:56):
I've got a lot of Filipino Figi and friends and stuff,
guys that I work with and stuff like that, and
same in the UK.

Speaker 15 (01:15:03):
I would put my license straight away.

Speaker 7 (01:15:04):
I said, here's my New Zealand one.

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
Yeah. Yeah, And I don't anyone saw it that way, Darren.
It's it's wherever you're coming from, whether it's your wish,
UK whatever, it sounds like that'll be in the same
camp right that you You just to get the international license.
You don't have to do a physical test.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Yeah, someone said, because that's what it's called in the
road code, you muppets. Yeah I know, but you get
my point that when people tell you how what words
to use to describe something, your heckles can get up.

Speaker 21 (01:15:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
We were just pushing back on if.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
You call it fast lane and then four hundred people
say it's not a fast lane, it's a passing lane.
It's like, you know, my first reaction to that being
a contrarian as don't tell me how to speak. But
when Darren rings up and logically explains why it should
be called the passing lane, then then look, you know
your point?

Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
All right, Hey, so yeah, your muppet take that. Hey,
coming up, just after we play some messages, escalator guy
has come back to us and explained, Okay, where all
these fingers and toes are coming from?

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Okay, so this is going to be good, all right,
because because I contend that there's not a lot of
people losing fingers and tones escalators again, Wow, but a
person that's pulled some fingers and toes out of escalators
is disagreeing with me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
It is eight to three the issues that affect you,
and a bit of fun along the way.

Speaker 8 (01:16:19):
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Speaker 20 (01:16:22):
Said, be.

Speaker 3 (01:16:24):
It is five to two three a.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Tie, lady, I believe, and this is a We've got
two subjects going on. My saying that I think that
we don't need to be told to be careful on escalators, yes,
and a pushback from a lot of people saying that
there's fingers and toes being ripped off constantly. This Texas says,
I believe ENTI Thailand Airport, a woman had her entire
leg sucked in by the escalator and had to be amputated.

(01:16:48):
I believe the articles in the Daily Mail earlier this year.
Then I'm paranoid, especially with children. I just don't understand
how the it's got the slightly bit that's down. But
I think anything those horror stories you steal is when
it's a rubbish, cheap and effect of put together escalator
that the steer brakes and you fall into the working

(01:17:08):
for example.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
If there's a gap down the bottom where some of
the cheaper escalators might have a gap, but otherwise.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Yeah, well sometimes I guess maybe the actual step could
fall in. But that Textas says, it's surprisingly common for
accidents to happen. It is a maintenance as you if
you see a missing tooth on a steer, that is
that is the cause more than two missing teeth and
you're in trouble. Also, some of the cheaper escalators installed
are even more dangerous. People lose fingers when they trip.

(01:17:34):
Also that it takes some time for escalators or travelators
to stop as they are heavy beasts. Yeah okay really
but Okay, look a couple of things. The Auckland Airport
escalator is absolute top of the range escalator. They spend
billions on running their airport as smoothly as they do. Yep,
I don't think it's one of those ones where you're
going to get sucked in and lose your leg.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
No, it's not a death trap. And I've never seen
teeth on an escalator. I've got to say like that
that text A said, but thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
Oh sorry, what were you going to say?

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
I was going to say, should we should we carry
this one on one hundred eighty ten and eighty news
is fast approaching, but we want to hear from you.
So the old right lane kiwis apparently don't understand that
rule that if you are in the right lane of
a multi lane highway that is the passing lane or
fast lane, whatever you want to call. It's a keen
to get your view on there. But also, is it
time we introduce refresher courses when it comes to driving.

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
And what would you want those to be? What you
want on those refresher courses? And we'll try and move
away from the escalator thing, because I think they became
a side issue and confused to still what's interesting though,
particularly me new sport and weather coming up, great debut
company as always.

Speaker 8 (01:18:43):
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Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:51):
Welcome back into the shelters seven Pass three and having
a great discussion about passing lanes. Kiwis apparently don't know
how to use them. And if you want to call
it the fast lane, you're more than welcome. But we
did ever call it before the news that made a
fair argument on what they call passing lanes, not the
fast lane.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
Yeah, and we're talking about multiple lane motorways here. We're
not talking about that thing. When you're driving line and
they say there's a passing lane coming up in two kilometers, Yeah,
obviously that's a passing line. Yeah, clearly. But the thing
is if you're in that far right lane, in the
right hand lane, then you are there to pass and
then you get back into the middle lane. Yeah, you
don't live in there, easy as life in the fast
lane guaranteed to get yourself a ticket. Well you won't actually,

(01:19:32):
but apparently you can get ticketed for that for just
sitting in the fast lane as you should in the
passing lane. And apologies to everyone for completely derailing last
hours chat. That's why I've had to continue this conversation
onto this hour because I got too focused on escalators.

Speaker 3 (01:19:47):
But there was a texture that said, guys, you need
devosition on escalators. As I have been listening to you
this afternoon, it's been a great topic, but I'd love
to hear more about escalators so well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
This person said, guys, it's the shoelaces of kids that
can get caught in the side gaps of escalators. I'm
always at my son to keep clear. I have PTSD
from when I was a kid and took the family
cat for a walk with fishing line the lead. The
cat took off with the fishing line dragging behind, and
then it got caught and all I remember is a
choking core of food. That had to stick my hand

(01:20:18):
in with a pair of scissors to cut the line
that had tightened around its throat. My hand got mangled
from the cat, but I managed to cut the line free.
Hence the difficulty with escalators in small moving gap Steve.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Fair enough, Steve, I mean, if you went through that
sort of trauma. You know, no judgment there, No judgment.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
There, Darli, you shouldn't laugh at Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:20:37):
Yeah, he was walking his cat with the fishing line.
Well yeah, come on, just give him a break here, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Yeah, okay, all right, Well let's put the escalators to bed,
all right for now?

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
Yeah, we might do that another day. But O eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Allen,
you want to talk about refresher courses.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
Yeah, I don't know whether you're aware, but I've driven
quite a lot in the UK and also in Australia.
But in the UK, if you get a speeding ticket,
you get the option of demerit points or attending a refresher.

Speaker 2 (01:21:05):
Course, right right.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Seems like a good idea.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
Yeah, and you have to book it online and they're
all around the place. I mean someone like the AA
could easily run it. But I mean it gives you
the option. I mean some people to say our buggert
obvers take these.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
You know that seems that gets sort of the idea
that it's just revenue generation, doesn't it, because you because
you're saying, well, you know, really, we're we're finding people
to make the better drivers so the roads are safer,
so if you have the opportunity to get educated. Although,
as I said on my show, when I got a
one hundred and seventy dollars ticket for driving fifty one
kilometers an hour over Hopetown Bridge because they've lowered the

(01:21:39):
speed limit of thirty, no refresher course is going to
make me think that's the right law. So you know,
it wouldn't work for me on that particular law.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
We'll take the demerits over refresher on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:21:49):
But Ellen, if you've been hogging the you know, the
passing lane and not moving in, then that would be
you know, the refresher course makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Well, that's right. And of course in Australia, you know
the parking ticket, well, the tickets are much more expensive.
I think I had one for three hundred and fifty
eight dollars for kem.

Speaker 17 (01:22:08):
K over the speed limit.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
You know, so you shouldn't moan here. And of course
the Australians, from my observation, don't understand flashing lights. They
take it as aggression, so you'd probably get your lights
punched out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Yeah, you've got to be I always think about that.
But people have got to be very careful when they
try and be road vigilantes or or police the roads,
because you never know what that person is in front
of you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:32):
I mean they might have been for five days on
myth and that's why they're driving so badly. Next thing,
you know, you flash your lights and they're coming at
you with a tyre on or chasing you here.

Speaker 5 (01:22:41):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (01:22:42):
I have some sympathy for the escalator one, but I'll
give you a different one for infant what do they
call it?

Speaker 12 (01:22:48):
Done and.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
Fantalizing? You do you go to the supermarket and you've
just paid for your stuff, and you constantly get don't
forget your stuff, don't forget your stuff?

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:23:02):
Yeah, while you're still packing your bags and they're saying,
don't forget your goods?

Speaker 3 (01:23:07):
You know, account operator? Yeah that is that does my
head it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
All right, have a good day, go thanks you call alam. Yeah,
if we run a one. Two topics things about infantin
infantalization of society. Yeah, I know I said that I
wouldn't keep it down the escalator route. But those moments
in society where you're being told for something constantly, the safetyization,
the infantilization where you have been treated like a child constantly,

(01:23:34):
because I think that makes humans less competent and leads
to more more problems and people having worse outcomes because
they become completely useless.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
I've got one for you, Yeah, coffee, takeaway coffee when
it sees caution hot on the lid. Of course we
know it's frickin hot. Oh eight one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. And if you
want to send a text, nine two nine two is
the text number. It is twelve past three. Bearey surely
here on news talks areb afternoon. It is fourteen pass three.

(01:24:04):
Do we need refresher driving courses in New Zealand? And
if we do, what do we need to refresh ourselves
up on?

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
Yeah? Absolutely so, says come. I met easy to solve
the problem taser anyone in the right lane, not a
passing another car, regards Jamie. Hard to do that. I'm
just pulling up beside them from the middle lane and tasering.
The window might be down. I mean, I think there's
a lot of fish walks in that idea. I get
the sentiment, Jamie.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Yeah, Hey, don't pull back on the right now. I
mean that's got some you know.

Speaker 2 (01:24:31):
Leaks to it, that idea, Sheila, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Hello, Hello, how are you all right?

Speaker 21 (01:24:38):
Are you speaking to shoot it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (01:24:41):
Yeah, I just couldn't hear you. Can you put your
volume up?

Speaker 3 (01:24:44):
But please, we certainly can, Sheila. How's that?

Speaker 15 (01:24:46):
How's that much better?

Speaker 21 (01:24:47):
Thank you?

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
Not a problem?

Speaker 21 (01:24:49):
Now. What I wanted to tell you was probably not
quite relevant to the topic, but worth listening to. I
think my husband came out to New Zealand from Scotland
and brought the very first international driver's license diploma issued
in Scofflin to New Zealand. He was the only one

(01:25:11):
that had it. The police keep pulling him over all
the time to drunk driving because he was driving too well,
and then when he showed us diploma, they just sort of, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:20):
My goodness, so he wasn't drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
How do you How do you drive so well that
you appear drunk?

Speaker 13 (01:25:27):
Well?

Speaker 21 (01:25:28):
He had a PhD in backseat driving. Believe me, I
put him off and swans and road once in stead walk.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
Okay, so tell us about this diploma. I take it.
Do they still give out this diploma for good driving?

Speaker 22 (01:25:41):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:25:41):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:25:42):
It's not for good driving, you've got to sit a test.
I've done the driving course, but it was no one
to take men. I didn't want to do the diplomer anyway.
Oh they don't give it out for good driving.

Speaker 3 (01:25:51):
My god, Oh I thought it was an award. I
thought it was wrong.

Speaker 21 (01:25:55):
Okay, right, advanced to Boploma and driving it's really tough, mate, Wow,
it really is.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Is it still a thing you can do?

Speaker 21 (01:26:04):
I think it is. I'm not sure about that because
I've done the course and say a few times wow.
But we were coming round towards the city once from
the north Shore, and about ten seconds before we turned
the spand I sensed the tenseness and I thought, oh something,
put my hand on my seat belt and on our
daughter's seat belt, and we came into an oil slick.

(01:26:27):
A truck had just up ended its petrol Please buy
an ambulance of them putting out the cones into quick
as possible. We went right into it, and I thought,
that's us. She goes out the window first. And I'm
telling you, we must have missed that bridge that hit
with the tire by a couple of centimeters. His driving

(01:26:49):
was so superb we turned around and saved ourselves.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
He did, Wow.

Speaker 21 (01:26:55):
We got out of the car, of course, stress and everything.
He said too that it was we all. Sergeant there
go to give me a checket for bad driving and
read on and one of them and the said, stop it, leves,
stop it, stop it, stop it. I've never seen such
driving in my life, really years in the force.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
So the police officer was like, or traffic office was like,
that is such good driving I've never seen.

Speaker 21 (01:27:24):
Yeah, wow, and outcomes of diploma.

Speaker 3 (01:27:28):
It's a good thing to carry around with you.

Speaker 21 (01:27:32):
I don't because I don't have it, but I a
couple of years ago I decided to do it, you know,
just an ordinary driving course to see how I was going.
And I got the sky I won't say what culture,
and he was very busy giving me instructions. I said,
you're wrong. The road rules a lot like that. I

(01:27:53):
was right. So we get up to Matthey and west
Auckland and he gives me an instruction and I said,
I own this car, I own the insurance, I own
the license, and that's a dangerous maneuver. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Wownds, Yeah, what what excuse me?

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Neds? What does that mean National Advanced Drivers School.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Ah, right, that's the diplomber.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Yeah what do you think I meant by nads?

Speaker 3 (01:28:19):
Thank you very much, Luke, welcome.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
To the show.

Speaker 5 (01:28:23):
Oh good, so let's say you very good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
What's your take on this?

Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
Well, obviously ours like thank you for bringing out the
story of the cat with the nylons getting stuck in
the escalator. I can only imagine how Matt would have
dealt with their situation. Hey, let's come to mind.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
But we won't, Luke, let's not go into my failed
attempts of you euthanizing a cat that has been widely parblicized.

Speaker 3 (01:28:48):
He has mentioned that once on this program and never again.

Speaker 4 (01:28:52):
Luke.

Speaker 5 (01:28:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, good, good good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Their heads are very very connected on way more than
you think they would be anyway, Luke, what were you
going to say?

Speaker 5 (01:29:02):
No, just traffic chair is so good. It's one of
my favorite things to sit down here in Raglan, cruising
along without any traffic or anything, and here the traffic
reports that come on and to have a whole show
a two hours talking about traffic just has really made
my dam coming down with the flu and this is
just getting me through the day.

Speaker 16 (01:29:22):
So thank.

Speaker 5 (01:29:24):
Yeah. I'm a middle lane driver though, like it's sumany
k because I'm freaking out which lane to get in
in case there's a right hand exit. I think there's
one in the country, but that's what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
You never know where that one's going to pop up.
That one right hand exit could just appear in any time.

Speaker 5 (01:29:43):
It's happened before. I think I ended up and fun
today when I was trying to get to sort of
the north Shore and what was I going to say? Yeah,
the traffic chat. I've been trying to figure out a
way to frame this. The traffic reports. You know, when
you get out it's heavy it is heavy flows and dah.

Speaker 16 (01:30:05):
Da da da da.

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
And I'm starting to wonder if the people don't those
reports are having to go, like really pushing the boundary
of like a reference how do you say it? Like No,
it's got to do with a woman and a time
of the month, right sort of listening, Yeah, and have
a listen. I don't know if they're having to go,
if they're pushing the boundary, I like someone to that broadcasting. Okay,

(01:30:27):
so just keeping it here out.

Speaker 2 (01:30:28):
For that one. Yeah, Well thanks to your call. Look
from Braggs. We'll listen out for that. Yeah, thanks, you
are broadcasting standards authority of complaint.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Yeah, I don't think that's what they're alluding to, but
you know, we'll keep a watch on that. One eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. We'll take a
quick break and we'll pick this back up very shortly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
And there has been a suggestion that you can just
land in New Zealand and just drive around in your
driver's license and it's all sweet as yeah. Right, So
I've actually done some research and I found out what
the rules are for arriving in New Zealand, whether your
license from where you come from is legit here or not.

Speaker 3 (01:31:01):
Okay, perfect, this is going to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
I'll share those details.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Twenty one past three, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:31:09):
Matt Heathan Tayler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on US Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
It is twenty four past three. Some great teas coming through.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to take a bait
to escalators. We tried to move on guys, people whose
legs stop working as soon as they step on an
escalator and then they don't stay left. The solution is
cattle prods and tasers easy. That's from Simon. Yeah, I
mean people need to know that. When you're on an escalator,
it's a totally different issue. But that's not a time
to be lazy and just stand there. They're still stairs
to make you go faster. They're fast steers, so it's

(01:31:41):
an opportunity to get to the top quicker. You don't
take a break, that's lazy. Don't stand still on the escalator.

Speaker 3 (01:31:47):
I'm with you, that's my head, you know, And.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Definitely if you do stand to one side, ye, people,
just what are you standing still an escalator?

Speaker 22 (01:31:56):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Are you going to live forever? Have you got that
much time? You've been gifted the opportunity to get up
some stairs faster. If someone think, you know, the good
people of the airport or the or the mall or
wherever you are, the public library are spending good money
on electricity to move people faster and you just lazy, lazy.
Look sure, if you can't for some reason why you

(01:32:18):
can't walk on the escalator, absolutely, but if you're able
bodied walk walk up the escalator by yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:32:24):
Some time, look behind you and see the queue you're
holding up. That's what's wrong with productivity in this country?
People not walking on the escalator anyway, we'll bring out
escalators tomorrow maybe because we are talking about the right
hand lane on our multi lane highways. And Rod is
a former driving instructor, Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
Rod?

Speaker 4 (01:32:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 19 (01:32:44):
From here?

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Get a and you used to teach people how to drive?

Speaker 20 (01:32:49):
Yep, yep.

Speaker 3 (01:32:51):
And what do you reckon on this rule that Kiwis
don't seem to follow.

Speaker 19 (01:32:56):
Oh, Kiwis are not the best drivers in the world.
And there's a reason for it. Regular testing, proper tests
was late coming to New Zealand. Testing or driving tests
used to be taken by a police officer and that

(01:33:19):
was dishchat to a police when every day by the
duty sergeant. And it was not a job they enjoyed
doing being testing officers. And you had a very four
standard of people passing the tests. They're the parents of
today's kids, they're the they're the ones that need to

(01:33:39):
be tested. And a number of years ago when I
was when I was still a COGOD instructor, I went
to Parliament and saw uh yeah, politicians were along with
the colleague and we tried to get testing renew renewing
licenses on a simple basis that you they they will

(01:34:06):
pay for everything, the fact that you you charge him
for this every three five years in order to keep
them up to date with what's happening out on the roads.
Things have changed. We've gone from the days when the
cars we're old English trailways who could barely really get

(01:34:32):
up to a good fifty miles per hour, not p
for per hour. Yeah, but more more than that, the
drivers were given proper instruction.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
Yeah, thank you for your call, Rod, appreciate Rob. Yeah,
cars are definitely a lot faster than they used to be.

Speaker 3 (01:34:52):
Absolutely. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Hey, so I was talking before about driver's licenses. You
can drive on an overseas car license for up to
eighteen months right when when you first get here? Okay, Yeah,
if you're licenses from an exempt country such as Australia, Austria, Belgium,
Canadat Canadia, Canadia, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong Island, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Norway,
South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, UK or USA, and there

(01:35:16):
are some others you can convert without taking any test,
right like this, if you're not from in Hong Kong,
did i say, that's another one. If you're not from
those places, then for licenses from non exempt countries, you
must pass the theory test based on the New Zealand
Road Code and then an in car practical test. So
if you're not from an exempt country, then you have
to go through all the hoops to get a proper

(01:35:38):
license in New Zealand, which makes New Zealand license right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
Yeah, which makes sense because I imagine those exempt countries
their driver's license tests are pretty similar to ours.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Yeah, well, I guess they've decided that that there are
a similar level. Yeah, so so if you're good enough
to pass the test in Australia, you're probably good enough
to pass the test here.

Speaker 3 (01:35:57):
Yeah, you know, fair enough. Right, good discussion, Thank you
very much. After the headlines, we are going to change tack.
But some great texts that came through and enjoyed the
cheta about escalators. We will have to bring back that
topic another day because a lot of people wanted to
chet about escalators. A lot of fascination there the text. Yeah, anyway, no,

(01:36:19):
we won't read that one out. We're teasing people here,
but that's me, but that is me. I also nearly
fell asleep thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (01:36:27):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:28):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of call.
We want to talk about traveling with your children. On
the back of a very cool story about the Williams family.
They walked the length of New Zealand with their four kids.
Did they quite a journey? But sometimes is it just
best to leave the kids at home? Oh eight hundred
and eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Ten eighty escalators? Well, I don't know did they keep
walking or did they stand on the escalator?

Speaker 3 (01:36:51):
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Speaker 3 (01:38:11):
Thank you very much, Ray Lane, and we want to
have a chat about traveling with children. So a great
story in the Herald written by Shane Curry. It talks
about the Williams family and they are a family of
six and mom and dad, Andrew and Courtney and I've
got four children ranging from six years old to thirteen
years old. They've just walked the length of New Zealand

(01:38:33):
the Tea art at Ola Trail.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
That is incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:38:37):
Yeah, two hundred and eighteen days. So it's one of
them six years old, right, one of them six How
do they do their school, lessons on the road, homeschooling,
homeschooling on the road, Yeah, homeschooling the road, walking.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Down the street, walking down the trail, doing spelling tests
as such.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
But of mathematics in your head, I suppose what else
do you do if you're just walking down a highway
and you've got a bit of time up your sleeve.

Speaker 2 (01:38:58):
It's pretty cool because I mean it's an education in itself,
isn't it? Doing a walk like that? I mean, personally,
i'd leave the kids at home. Paying the arts. Taking
kids on trips like that.

Speaker 3 (01:39:07):
It's a lot of admind. I got to edmind four
kids for a trip up the length of New Zealand.
But that's what we want to have a chat about.
So good on the Williams family who decided to take
their four kids with them on this massive walking journey
down the t Atradawa. But sometimes is it just easier
to leave for the kids at home if you do
one of those big.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Yeah one hundred and eighteen eighty. Have you taken your
kids on incredible adventures like us? We'd love to hear
from you or be when you go overseas you dump
your kids with the rallies and with the grandma or
with you. When I was a kid, my parents went
on a bunch of overseas trips. One time they dumped
all four of us kids on my mum's twin sister, yep,

(01:39:47):
and it just left us there. We were there for
months and months and months. Another time they went overseas.
Whenever they went overseas, they dump us. We'd been in
the the cargo for months. And one time my parents
were overseas and I sent them a letter going I
missed you, Mum and Dad, and the letter followed them
around and it came back just after they come back
months months later, and it been to every one of
their hotels. It had been to something like thirty five

(01:40:08):
hotels and being sent on never caught up with them
until I got it when I came back to me.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:14):
Now, And at the time I thought that's not fair.
I'd like to be on a tour of the United States.
But now I get it. Yeah, taking four kids on
that trip would have been so punishing and expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:40:22):
Very expensive, and also takes up a lot of your time.
If you've got four children under the age of fourteen,
that's pretty much taking up your entire trip. Looking after
the needs of your children. But what do you say, oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty, Is there anything wrong with
leaving the children at home when you go on holiday
or is there a lot of value in taking them
with you if you go abroad, particularly for a length

(01:40:44):
of time. You really keen to get your thoughts. O.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is twenty four to four.

Speaker 1 (01:40:52):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty. Mad Heathen Tyler Adams Afternoons Youth Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
Very good afternoon to you. We're talking about traveling or
undertaking a serious journey with children. This is the Williams family.
Great story in The Hero written by Shane Carry the
Williams family did just that. Parents Andrew and Courtney took
their four children Oliver thirteen, Summer eleven, Sky nine and
Elliot six the length of New Zealand the t ot

(01:41:20):
Owa Trail. How long did it take them two hundred
and eighteen days. Wow, which is the better part of
a year? Two thirds of a year?

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Well, how much do most kids winge about doing anything
at all?

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
So you know, like take the rubbish out and there's
a massive winge. But these kids, they managed to hustle
them full length of the country.

Speaker 3 (01:41:40):
So yeah, so they set aside some rest days in
a week off at Christmas, but they averaged about twenty
k's a day the longest war.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Hang on, they averaged twenty k's a day. That's nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:41:49):
What do you mean there's nothing twenty k's. Yeah, I
ran ten k's this morning. Yeah, but that's one where
I went to work. Isn't that a one off for you?

Speaker 16 (01:41:56):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
Do you do that every day?

Speaker 19 (01:41:58):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:41:58):
I do it every second day. But I'm not walking
the length of the country. That's not my full time occupation.
So you what's the average I'm not going to nikel
and die in these people.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
This does average over to eighteen days. So they're pretty
good as all know, and.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Like good on the six year old, it's awesome. But
twenty k is a day, No, I get it. There's
plenty of time for home schooling and such. So what
speed do you walk out? I think the average let's
just say average walking pace is about seven k's.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Yeah, givil take so they.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
Were only walking three or four hours a day. That's
very manageable.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Yeah, well, it depends on how many meters they're covering
as well elevation wise. But the longest walk day was
thirty two k. How's that? Thirty two k the longest
It's all right, you're not sold on that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Tell you what. It's awesome for a six year old.

Speaker 3 (01:42:39):
It is very good for a six year old.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
This Texas says. We have four kids and travel with
them all and also just my wife and I also
travel without them two thousand and seventy and we spent
three weeks in La San Diego and Las Vegas. Twenty nineteen,
my wife and I went to La and Vegas by ourselves.
Oh these guys like Las Vegas, don't they? How it
had to cancel twenty twenty due to COVID Last August,
we took our four kids and her parents away for

(01:43:01):
four weeks San Diego, La, Las Vegas, and back to
LA again. These people are punishing Las Vegas. My wife
I going back to LA for seven weeks for our anivestory.

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Look at that, and fair enough to Las Vegas is
a great place, particularly if you don't have the kids.
So I'm sure you're an agreement, Heath, what's that Las
Vegas is a great place without the kids.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
It's a great place without the kids. But actually people
don't realize about Las Vegas. There's lots with the kids
as well. Yeah, it's changed a lot over the year
from just sin city. There's some fantastic stuff you can
do around there, and in fact it's great, it's great.
It's sort of Disneyland side to it as well.

Speaker 3 (01:43:33):
Here's my question that those and I know I've got
a lot of friends that do this. So they travel
with infants I'm talking under three years old, So they
travel to quite far flung places with their under three children. Honestly,
what is the point in that? Because those children are
not going to remember a lot of those places that

(01:43:54):
you go and see at cost a fortune, You've got
to deal with infants on planes, genuinely, what is the
what is the positives of traveling with children that long
if you are young, if you're going on an international trip.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Yeah, well, I mean that's really frustrating. Well, my son
when he was one and a half eighteen months, he
traveled the entirety of the United States and a tour
van with his mum, who was a Who's a band
was touring the states, So he was he was eighteen
months old. No, he was younger than that. No, he
was less than a year old. That's right. And he
was on the road for ages and the bass of

(01:44:30):
the guitarist of the band said he cried less than
the guitarist of the band did. But he can't. He
can't remember it, and a kind of anoys him to
the day. He's like, oh, I've been to the Grand
canonon but I've never seen it. Matt, he threw a deck.
Imagine a six year olds walking twenty k's every day,
says this text, And Matt, you're an idiot. They weren't
doing the twenty k's on the flat, even if you're
going uphill. I'm saying, I'm not I'm not I'm not

(01:44:51):
hassling them. I'm just saying that twenty k's in this
family that walked the length of the country. I'm saying,
twenty k's is manageable and good on these parents. It's
a fantastic invention, an invention and adventure. Sorry, but when
you first hear it, you go, how's that even possible?
The six year old? But then that they're averaging twenty
k's a day. It seems quite possible. I mean a
six six year old can do twenty k's and today

(01:45:12):
they love it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Yeah, I adde hundred eighty t and eighty. If you've
done the TA Trail, let Matt know how easy or
difficult it is to do twenty k's a day. There'll
be a lot of people that have done the TA
Travel Trail. I should say I wede hundred eighty t
and eighty. How many k's did you average a day?
I mean you'll extrapolate that out to two hundred and

(01:45:34):
eighteen days. Twenty k a day? That is, that's some footwork.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Yeah, it's doable. Though this text Do you agree with
this textas says, wow, selfish parents? Why is that selfish
to take your kids away for that long? I don't know.
Tom Phillips is on an epic junny, it's not. We're
not talking about a Tom Phillips the type situation here.
It's very very different.

Speaker 3 (01:45:56):
This one says, guys, they may be kids who don't
eat vast quantities of sugar and play sports, and maybe
if they also respect each other and it would be
no problem to walk for six months from g.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
Yeah, well, I think you could eat vast amounts of
sugar if you're walking twenty k's a day. I don't
think you'd have to worry about your kids sugar and take.
In fact, you might want to give them some barley
sugars on that kind of journey.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Yeah, And Mike says, guys, we've been to Europe on
business when our kids were ten and thirteen and we
fit them. Next time we go over it will take
you with us. And they remembered when they were eighteen
and twenty one and we took them to Munich, London,
Barcelona and Ala for a work thing. Great trip, great time,
great memories.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Okay, there's a lot of support for taking your kids, Yeah,
and a lot of pushback on my idea that's better
to leave them home.

Speaker 3 (01:46:44):
Oh, eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty, if you've
done the Ta trail, Matt's is keenda have a chat
with your with the twenty ks is a long way
to go on an average day. And also traveling with
your children is it too much? Edmond? Is there anything
wrong with leaving them with the rallies, particularly if the
infant's really came to hear from your On eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:47:05):
The average walking speed, saysys Textter, is about five kilo.
Mean is an hour, so twenty k is in days,
about four hours walking. I'm not sure what the average
walking speed for a six year old is.

Speaker 3 (01:47:13):
They I'm going to get out the Catchil Admiral will
figure that out. It is quarter to four.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Used Talks, EDB,
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Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Good afternoon to you. We're talking about this family, the
Williams family, tight knit. Andrew and Courtney are the parents,
and they took their four kids, Oliver, Summer, Sky and
Elliott the length of New Zealand, the troa trail. Incredible effort,
two hudred and eighteen days. But traveling with kids, that's
the question we've asked sometimes, is it just a bit
too much head?

Speaker 5 (01:47:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
And look these people that are saying I'm dissing this walk.
I've been talking up this walk. I think it's absolutely
awesome that they did it. What I was saying is
that good on those parents for taking their kids because
it's such a hassle. But also I was saying that
twenty kilometers at our day. You know, when you break
it down, it does seem more manageable than to twenty
kilometers a day. So I don't know, some people don't
listen very closely and fair enough. You can enjoy or

(01:48:10):
not enjoy this radio show any you want, But to
say that I was dussing this family, how dare you ben?
You reckon? You often walk twenty comanies a day?

Speaker 23 (01:48:21):
Yeah, yeah, well you know more than more than say,
maybe a couple of times a months easy, but yeah,
certain times of the year, just even in the yards,
like I'll do ten k's in the morning shifting a
deer break.

Speaker 7 (01:48:34):
You're looking at ten.

Speaker 23 (01:48:35):
Times four hundred meters and that's just one part of
the job during the day. So it doesn't take long.
I mean, if you follow the female around the shop
so I reckon, I reckon, those girls would knock up
a few k's pretty quick.

Speaker 3 (01:48:46):
Yeah, I wonder how many steps twenty k would be.
That would be about fifteen thousand steps we take.

Speaker 23 (01:48:52):
Yeah, Well, like I said, I've done well over ten
thousand in the morning before, just in the deer it's
just going in out of the yards you're pretty much
walking the whole time. But yeah, so i'd suggest, like, well,
the concept of walking twenty kimeenters even a cimeter when
you sort of get out and you think I'm better
walked from here to there. It's going to be quite
a long time. But once you start, you seem to

(01:49:12):
get there pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:49:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:49:14):
Well, you know, I mean kids in toe that would
be four Oh I'm there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
Yeah. And also these parents were carrying a bunch of
stuff on their backpacks as.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
Well, exactly, so you've got fifteen k on your back. Yeah,
and you're smashing twenty k with four kids. It's pretty
good efing. Oh yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:49:30):
Oh, and for some strange reason, like five and six
year old seem to want to pick up every second rock.
Can you imagine it?

Speaker 2 (01:49:38):
Oh yeah, that's that's a very good part of it.
And then suddenly they want to carry a massive stick
for a while, and it's a massive drama if they
can't take this stick back to the acorn.

Speaker 5 (01:49:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
But if you see a good stack becomes a part
of them. Yeah yeah, but come on, as fellers here,
you can recognize a good stick when you see one.

Speaker 23 (01:49:55):
Surely, Oh you a good stick?

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Stick? Think I for your call, Ben, We'll let you
get back to you to your job. So ten thousand steps,
which was that thing they always say that you should,
you know, walk in the day. You know, that's just
actually been made up. There's no science behind the ten
thousand steps. That was just a particular device that was
made in Japan that happened to track ten thousand steps.
But ten thousand steps is just under eight k right,
so they say just in an average day you should

(01:50:20):
walk ten thousand steps.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
So we're talking twenty five thousand steps twenty k p day.
That's a good nudge, guys. I've watched this family's YouTube
videos covering their trip. Those kids learnt more in two
hundred and eighteen days walking the country than they ever
would have at school. Credits to their parents were being
brave enough to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:38):
Yeah, exactly. I always think of that when parents want
to take their kids away on holiday and that time
that you spend with your parents and seeing other things.
Just generally even walking up the country fantastic, walking the
link of the country, but I mean primary school and
intermediately here really learning anything that isn't that is as
important as that time with your family.

Speaker 3 (01:50:56):
Very good call, Nick. How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Oh sorry, Nick? Oh sorry, we had a bit of
a problem with their phones there, Nick. Traveling with kids. Yep,
we can hear you good.

Speaker 24 (01:51:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you just hear me out here. Quite
a number of years ago, thirty five years ago, we
took our two children. One was one turn six in
Eastern Europe and one turned one. The youngest turned one
in the Netherlands. We're away for six months. We're away
for six months. My oldest daughter has is now the

(01:51:31):
international flight crew. I have since had another two daughters.
One has been in London for six years, has cycled
from London to Auckland, and now that my youngest one
is at present been in London for six years and
traveled all over the place over there. All I'm trying
to say here is it's, you know, it's such a

(01:51:52):
great thing for children, like doing something like this, like
what this family did, it's so valuable, you know what
it does for them, for the in the futures. It's actually, yeah,
you don't need xboxes and all those sorts of things,
you know. It's it's so we don't regret what we
did with our children. Of we've taken them all around

(01:52:14):
the world more than once, and it's very, very valuable.
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Yeah, well, good on your neck. It sounds like you've
created some intrepid journeyists. Hey, guys, have you seen some
of the terrain on that walk? Incredibly difficult.

Speaker 3 (01:52:26):
Look, boy, boy, think you're getting a lot of stick
on this.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
I I'm saying. When I heard the walk, I was like,
that sounds wow, that sounds impossible. But then when you
hear it's twenty k's a day, when you break it
down on average, then you see that it is obviously
it's possible because they did it. Yeah, but you can
get your head around it. You know, incrementally it won't
having to twenty k day. That's just phenomenal, phenomenal, there's
no doubt. And carrying the backpacks and the kids wanting

(01:52:49):
to carry different sticks and all those kind of problems,
absolutely all respect to them. This Texas says the kids
should be carrying the backpacks like little sherpas.

Speaker 20 (01:52:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
I agree.

Speaker 3 (01:52:58):
Mary. What's your thoughts about what this family's done.

Speaker 5 (01:53:03):
I think they've.

Speaker 22 (01:53:04):
Done an amazing thing. I was reading it in the
paper on the weekid and thinking, what amazing kids to
do that, and they did have their own little fake
packs on their from what I could read, and I
thought was good on them. But I was also just
commenting on my way home from golf to say that

(01:53:25):
you can walk ten k's pushing a cart around the
golf course very easily.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Yeah, that's so true. Yeah, that's some serious case perspective. Yeah, absolutely,
thanks so much for you call Marie.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
That is a good point. Yeah, Mary, Mary, Mary, Hey,
Matt and Tyler. We are walking the South Island Coastline
with our small dog. We average fifteen k'sbou day. Check
out our Facebook page, the Walk of Goodness. Lots of
photos and kilometers walked each day and quite the tale
to read as well. That's from Katie. So we'll go

(01:54:00):
and have a look at that Facebook page, the Walk
of Goodness. Go check it out.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Grunt, oh Grant, Oh that is you. This is you
Grant that's doing that South Island coastal coastline walk. How
small is your dog?

Speaker 25 (01:54:15):
A he's a little border Terrier, so he's one of
the smaller he's a small model of the border terrier.
But he's got the attitude and heard of a bigger dog.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
And so but dogs love a walk don't they.

Speaker 25 (01:54:26):
Oh, absolutely, and especially on the beach.

Speaker 17 (01:54:28):
So yeah, he's done.

Speaker 25 (01:54:29):
The whole lot. He's done a whole lot from christ
Shoots all the way down to past Tirie.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
That we've got to it, and so are you. You're
doing it all in a line in a row, or
you're picking it off and at different times.

Speaker 25 (01:54:41):
We're doing it at different times. We do it in
consecutive legs. So every once or twice a month we
head off down the coast to where we finished last
time and do another lenks. So yeah, we're just about down,
as I say, past Tirie south of Dunedin, crossing the cluster. Yeah,
you're going coming weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
You're going to wander down the Catlands way.

Speaker 25 (01:55:04):
Yes, yeah, we're going to get through the Catlands and
then down to Bluff and round to the Fiordland coastline.

Speaker 2 (01:55:11):
How cute you die? Just saw a picture.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
We're just having a look at your Facebook page now,
very cute dog.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
All right, we've lost grant. Where can they follow? We'll
follow that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:21):
So if you go to the path of goodness, the
walk of Goodness, I should say on Facebook, and you'll
be able to follow that journey. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
Well, Thank you so much for listening to the show
that brings us at the end of that podcast will
be out very soon. Where you get your podcast if
you're mis sending our chats. The one on the rise
of woman and woman misogyny was particularly good.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
He was spicy.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Yeah, and one day we'll get to the full examination
of escalators in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
It's on the list for next time. Thank you very much.
As always, we'll do it all again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:55:50):
Yeah, my mate Heathers up next Until tomorrow afternoon. Wherever
you are, what you're doing, have a great rest of
your day and give them a taste of Kiwi from us.

Speaker 8 (01:56:00):
Too, Matt and Thailand.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
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