Full Show Podcast: 27 February 2025

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Speaker 4 (01:14):
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Speaker 3 (01:22):
Good afternoon, welcome into the show. Seven past one. I
hope you're doing well. Get a mess youd a, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, So yesterday, if you were listening, you may have
heard a little incident that went down in the studio
around Let's face it, me spilling my coffee everywhere into
the electronics and starch. And look. I made it quite
clear to listeners of news talks'd be that this was
a kind of silence and that Mike Costking didn't need

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to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
About it exactly. We made that pretty clear. I made
it very very.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Clear that Mike Costing didn't need to know about the situation.
But I tune into the breakfast show in the morning,
and this is what I hear.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Then we come to this experiment we're running in the
afternoon between twelve and four. Is it twelve and four
or twelve and through is twelve and four, there's Tyler,
Matt show, what's going on here?

Speaker 3 (02:14):
You can tell I'm panting here, my mate's topless. My
computer shut down here, the computers shut down.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, so spilled a coffee when everywhere, and you
know we're in the my Costing Memorial studio, so you
got to you got to clean up when you make
a mess. So I immediately whipped my shirt off to
wipe down the bench. And yeah, still do it.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
He's wrong. You don't clean up with a mess. What
you do is you don't let those sort of people
into the my Costume studium in the first place. And
management this And I said, first of all, these clowns
are nothing but trouble. They're going to cause us nothing
but difficulty. And was I right or was I right?
So apparently I only found out about this through because

(02:56):
I don't listen to them. Obviously you found out about
this through the grapevine.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Someone spilled their coffee everyow. I'm not sure how it was.
We'll look at the tapes. It was either me or Tyler.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
The evidence there, man, I'm looking forward to seeing that video.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
So we had to move to another studio and try
and piece together a show over there with very little tech.
But we're now back and no one tell Hosking about
this again?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, okay, Please don't don't tell Hosking if you see
him out shopping as don't mention it.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Because the coffee's all been in a special stuff that's
down and there these draws here.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
He'll never know.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I tried to clean off a special pens and everything,
but it was a coffee agetin in here.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
It's been given a deep clean. It smells like lemon water,
which he's used to. So nobody tell Hosking.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
So cone of silence everyone.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
Here's the thing. I knew about it this morning because
I emptied the rubbishman, because those pigs don't do it,
and so I empty the rubbishman every morning. And in
the bottom of the rubbish bin are eight hundred and
fifty seven thousand wet towels that they've been.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
That's sanitizing the scene of the crime. One over, What.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
Exactly do the bed lean up the evidence?

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Idiots?

Speaker 5 (04:00):
And how many memos have been written over the years
about not spelling stuff in the studio?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
How many memos?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
I think this officially is alarm I'd like to personally,
I'd like to make it it don't come monday. But
let's caol this the last warning, shall we Wow?

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Okay, So shots fired there and I'm just looking over
at the rubbishman here and Hoskin doesn't empty the rubbishman
when he leaves because he's too chopped up little bits
of lemon in here. Yeah and so, and I understand
he's on some kind of lemon detox or something.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, you can't leave freight in the band, come on.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
And I also to think Mike is confused when he
says the experiment in the afternoon. What he means is
the future of news talks. He'd be in the afternoons,
if not the future of broadcasting as a whole. And
if it is an experiment, it's the bloody Manhattan project
in here, correct, the mad Heath project in here, the
Matt and Tyler project. Also, we did clean out the bins.
I've committed enough crimes in my time to know that

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you've got to clean up the evidence. So those thousand
wet paper towels were clearly Ryan Bridges. So I don't
know what he's doing on drive. Whatever it is, it's
moist yea. And as for the final warning, if you
don't like the crimes I commit, well, working at a place,
you should see what I do to workplaces I've been
fired from. It's not pretty, Mike, not pretty. It all

(05:11):
hell hath no fury like a Matt Heath scorn. It
will take more than a few paper towels to clean
up the mess. When you cancel my contract, coffee will
be the nicest fluid being thrown around. Okay, having said that,
we are you know, you're only as you're only as
good as your improvements from your mistakes the day before.

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So I have purchased the fort knox of coffee cups
because I am still flouting the drinking in the studio rule.
But I've bought this gray thing. It's got a scroll
on lead. You could you could throw this across the
room and it wouldn't it wouldn't leak. So there'll be
there'll be no more coffee again in Okay.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Live and learn. But not because Mike Costkin, see, just
because there is the sort of person you are.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Because I'm a good person. Yeah, and I learned from
my mistakes and we move forward. And yeah, so.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
We put that one to be at a park apart
from the lemon slices in the rubbish, but we might
bring that up with management.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yeah, I have written a memo about that, all right,
No citrus in the bin, very good, right.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Put that one to bed, coming up very shortly, we're
going to have a chat about tourism. It is eleven
past one.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
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Speaker 4 (06:33):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Very good. Afternoon, Juitor. Is fourteen past one, So let's
have a chat about tourism. So tourists may not have
returned to pre COVID levels, but their spending has stay.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, that's right, tourism spinning back up to sixteen point
nine billion in the twelve months to March twenty twenty four,
similar to twenty nineteen. But as you say, Tyler, we're
not up to capacity as we were before, are we. Well,
we're not not there as capacity, but we're eighty five
percent of We're making the same amount of money from
eighty five percent tourists.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yeah, So that leaves the question where we are getting
that spender back, which is a good thing, But do
we want to see more tourists come into the country.
If we're only at eighty percent, then we can get
another fifteen percent at least, if not more.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yeah, So Queen sound lacks. Councilors have been warned that
increasing tourist pressure could trigger protest and local hostily if
it's not an urgent intervention investment made.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Yeah. So, Mike cost Gen had a chat to the
CEO of Tourism New Zealand, Renee de Mont, and here's
a little bit of what he said to Mike this morning.

Speaker 6 (07:41):
There's plenty of capacity and we actually want both. But
it is a good news story. You know, those are
that's a pretty big growth number. Six billion dollars of
growth in tourism spend in the year to march. You know,
that's a significant uplift from a major expert.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I'm glad to hear you say plenty of capacity because
I was watching the news last night and they managed
to find yet another moner who was saying that, you know,
the infrastructure can't cope and it's all too busy, and
it's is it or not.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
Well, Look, I think it's important we've got to promote
news year around. But if you think about it, as
we talked about previously, you know, we're at about eighty
five percent of the visitor numbers that we were pre COVID,
So that so there's definitely plenty of capacity, and especially
when you look at year round, you know, we still
have quite a lot of people that come in the
summer months. How do we also encourage people. It's a

(08:27):
big focus of ours of people to come in between
March and November and not just between December and February.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Which is interesting. And as Mike mentioned, he heard on
the news that there are some people down in Queenstown
moaning his words on the infrastructure. And as you mentioned,
there is quite the kafuffle in some parts of Queenstown
about the numbers of tourists invading the township.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, so what do we want to do? So if
we can make this much money off eighty five percent,
why don't we pump it up to one hundred percent
or one hundred and ten percent of what we had
before and make even more money and see if tourism
can knock off dearya as our biggest inn it.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yeah, remember back when when labor was in power. God forbid,
but Stuart Nash, And Stuart Nash seems to be a
pretty good guy. But he was adamant that we needed
quality over quantity and didn't want the backpackers. He just
wanted the big spenders because we're all freaking out about this.
Too many tourists here, we can't cope. I think that

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was a mistake. I mean, how good would it be
to go back to those times?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, yeah, I mean in the ideal world you would
have just huge amounts of high quality, high end tourists
that do the minimum amount of pressure on our infrastructure, right, Yeah,
but you don't really get to pack them, do you.
So you just get as in my opinion, and I'd
like to hear people who disagree with us on our

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one hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine two niney
two my opinion, as we get as many in as
we can, and we try and get as much money
off them as we possibly can. Well, they are here,
I mean the problem as of course that they all
go to Queenstown. Yeah, So if we could get get
them international tourists to sort of go to a few
other places, that would be really handy. Of course, we're
spending a bit of money over in Australia, aren't we

(10:14):
to try and get more tourists over here? Yeah, But
if we could get them to spread themselves out across
the whole year, in the whole country, very very convenient.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
It would be good, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yeah, but one hundred and eighty ten eighty have we
got back to enough tourists? There's eighty five percent enough
if it's going to bring us in the same money
that it did in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Let's get into this. It is eighteen parts one.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
Breakfast so called citizens arrest Police Association President Chris car
Hills with us, are we setting ourselves on fire needlessly?

Speaker 7 (10:47):
Here?

Speaker 8 (10:47):
Real?

Speaker 9 (10:48):
Was?

Speaker 8 (10:48):
Here?

Speaker 10 (10:48):
Is you?

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And I aren't going to do this.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
It's really for security guards, isn't it?

Speaker 11 (10:51):
What I mean?

Speaker 12 (10:52):
Look at beeries for instance, they don't have security guards.
They have shopkeepers and family people, and there's going to
be an expectation that they do, especially if they're working
for some boss.

Speaker 10 (11:00):
We think they should do it.

Speaker 12 (11:01):
But even security guards. You look at some of these
security gards so not really highly trained. They're not highly
to think of police officers, all the equipment and all
the training, still assaulted every day. I don't mean to
be the humbug. I get why people just think, on
the face, it's a good idea, but when you peel
it back. It's true risky stuff.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Back tomorrow at six am The Mic Hosking Breakfast with
Mayley's Real Estate News Talk z B.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Good afternoon, it is twenty one pass one, So tourist
spending has increased to pre COVID levels, but tourist numbers
are still down a little bit. Do we want to
bring them? And there's a bit of grizzle about infrastructure
in some parts of New Zealand's.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yes, so people are already complaining about too many tourists
in certain places. But of course, you know, as people
are texting out, that's inflation that is causing us. So
we've got less tourists than the same amount of money,
but it's much more expensive to be here. So I
mean that's logical, right, But you know, do we you know?
So it's not just alight for like, it's not like,

(12:01):
you know, the same money from the same tourist at
the same time, right, But it does mean that we
have more capacity. Arguably, if we're only at eighty five
percent of the tourists we had so arguably we could
bet fifteen percent. And although back then we were overrun
by tourists to the point where Stuart Nash was saying
that we wanted to only have high land in tourists
and we didn't like sydnetyper tourists.

Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah, it wasn't that in the golden years. I mean
that was before the world just turned to custard. So
was it a mistake? Do we just need to get
all the tourists we can into the.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Country, Dave, You reckon the Southern Lakes is taking the
biggest hit from all this.

Speaker 7 (12:34):
Yeah, good afternoon, fellas. Absolutely. I spent a lot of
time down there. I have done for quite a few years.
And look, I've been involved in the tourism industry both
here and overseas and on you know, including cruise five
years in the cruise line industry. I've got a pretty

(12:55):
good handle on, you know, on tourism management and you know,
in the market and the breakdown of who spins what
and where, and you know, I've got to say Queenstown
as the proverbial cluster, you know, and then we put
the bleep in. It is one of the most mismanaged
areas in New Zealand. Beautiful as it is, but it's

(13:17):
beautiful not because of anyone. It's beautiful before humans are
ripe so but unfortunately, you know, everyone wants to excrete
a bit of money out of the terraces. Uh and
you know it's just a nightmare for locals and particularly
even people just going down there for a visit. I mean,
the traffic down there is absolutely diabolical. I don't know

(13:40):
what Mike Hoskins is on, mate, but you know he
obviously doesn't know that area, but it is. I mean
when you have takes you thirty minutes to drive from
the airport just to the Franklin round About, you know,
that's that's Auckland nightmare stuff.

Speaker 13 (13:53):
Mate.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
You know what we need in this what we need
in this country is to promote you know, fi T market,
the free independent traveler, because the are the ones that
spend the money made. It's not the high end rich
people that's a I Carts and Queenstown. It's the ones
that the young guys from you know, USA, Canada, Elsie

(14:14):
and Britain and so on. The are the ones that
go jumping out of planes and you know, indulge in
the experiences that we have to offer in New Zealand,
not not the Chinese market. The plastic bubble phenomenon that
we know the buses, you know the butt the tour buses.
It's the people that are the young, independent travelers, the
are the ones that spend the money.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Well, what do you think could be done in Queenstown.
Do you think it's just at peak because of the
way the roads go into Queenstown and the geography of
the situation. But is there infrastructure that could be put
in there that would help Queenstown and just the Southern
Lakes District to be able to handle the tourism or
is it just ramy.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
Well, look at the moment, as I said, it's it's
badly mismanaged. It has been for a few years, and
I think what to answer your question, I would ban
literally ban people from driving into the CBD in Queenstown itself.
I mean, that's an area that only tourists going anyway.
The locals don't shop in the CBD. It's a no

(15:12):
go area for most queens Townians, you know, have it
as a Obviously there's hotels on the other side of Queenstown,
on the Glen ork Orkie side, so they've got to
get there. But you know, just stop people from driving
into Queenstown. I would personally, I would set up a
Miami like gone train electric train from Frankton and use

(15:34):
that get people off the blooming roads, mate, and just
make it easier. I mean, most Kiwis don't particularly want
to have to deal with that when they go on holiday.
You know, for people that come from Beijing or you know,
other places around the world, they're kind of used to
it and they get busted around. But we just need
to take the pressure off. The CBD of Queenstown and

(15:55):
wank is a little bit the same. It's not as bad.
It's still a beautiful place.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I love it.

Speaker 7 (16:00):
But we've got to manage it, mate. We've got to
show some peripheral vision and actually think, well, you know,
Stuart Nash was full of full of it, mate, he
you know, getting these high end guys, where these guys
going to come from. You know that they're not buying rolls,
They're not buying rollixes in Geraldine or seriously, they're not
made and you know that's just a myth. You know,

(16:21):
when I did my degree in tourism many many years ago,
we had this phrase called the plastic bubble phenomenon, and
that was the tourists that travel around New Zealand and buses.
They never touched New Zealand. They just like to see
from the window. And you know, the high end market
they extick to themselves. They don't indulge the way that
you know the ft market does and the kiwi's the

(16:44):
locals do.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah. Well, of course where the airporters in Queenstown. You
land there and then you've got to head into town.
And so I guess the thing is, how do you
get people to go the other way, Dave, so that
they arrive at land in Frankton and then instead of
just going into Queenstown, you encourage them to head out
towards Wanaka, towards Techapo, towards all those other fantastic places

(17:06):
that are around there. How do you make that happen?

Speaker 7 (17:10):
Well, first off, you've got to facilitate a transport system
that works, and we don't have one. You know, as
I said earlier, if we had a rail system or
a gondola system that went from Frankton too straight into
the cbdre so they can go there, that yeah, be
cool man, And it would take away the traffic, because
the traffic is a nightmare. Talk to any queens Tonian mate,

(17:32):
they will tell you eight o'clock in the morning, all
that five o'clock at night.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
It is.

Speaker 7 (17:36):
It's like Auckland Spaghetti junction. So we've got to get
them away from there. They'll travel to want because they'll
travel to chick A poem Poochecki and all those wonderful
places and the rentals and the Maui campers. That's another
that's a whole nother kettle of fish about the roading
system here. But we've just got to make it safer
and easier and faster for these people to get around.
And you know, I just think, you know, the focus

(17:59):
has been on you know, let's take the remarkables and Wakatipu. Yep,
that's fine, But how we get them there, We get
them out of the cars and we just get them
in a nice, safe way, you know, whether it be
water taxi or gondola or electric rail or monorail or
something like that.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
You know, what about incentivizing the tourists other mono rail
It didn't quite work out for Springfield, But what about
incentivizing the tourists when they come here from a government level.
Because I understand the tourist bodies in each region compete
with each other, but from a government level, you incentivize
the tourists to go to some of the other places
that aren't rammed and it capacity.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
Yeah, well, look, you know, there's so many beautiful little spots.
And I'm talking on South Island at the moment, but
the same in the North Island, there's great spots. How
do you incentivize people to the best way to incentivize
is to offer them a way to get there without
costing them an arm and a leg and putting their
life at risk. I travel on those roads so many
times a year, mate, it's not funny, and I'm I'm

(19:00):
duck dog dodgy, diving and weaving, trying trying to not
get myself killed by a Campa van or an Apex
rental car. And we've got to invest in the roading system.
We've got to spend a lot of money on getting
the transportation system up to a world standard at the
moment where third world.

Speaker 14 (19:20):
Mate.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Those roads were built in the nineteenth century and they
haven't really improved much.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Interesting point, Dave, thank you very much for your call,
really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
I mean that the entire problem is that everyone wants
to go to Queenstown. That is an entire problem. So
that area is completely ran. People fly in there. We
need to get them. How do we get them? Oh,
e one hundred and eighty ten eighty? How do we
get them to go to other places in the country?
How do we get them to We've got so it's
a huge country. There's so much, so many great places

(19:52):
in this country. How do we get them to go to?
You know, I know a lot to go to Druya,
that's pretty popular. Yeap gets pretty busy in Topour. But
there's so many other places in this country. How do
we get them there?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean this idea is going to get shot
down and so be it. But as soon as they
get off the plane in Auckland, they get given a
hundred dollars vuture to go and spend in Tapa for example.
You know, why not? Why not?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (20:16):
I know they're flying straight to Queenstown, but get them
to Auckland and you land there and here's one hundred
dollars out to go spend somewhere in the North Island.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, great, Yeah, Well we just need
to do something right because if you could get you know,
you've got You've got Queenstown running at capacity, right, and
you know absolutely what Dave's saying. They're about trying to
rain people more people down that road. It's pretty punishing,
and you've got the rate payers of that area covering
a whole lot of people, are small rate paying population,

(20:45):
having to deal with all these people coming in and
the damage that they do and the cost of having
tourists in that area. Right. Yeah, But were's our other
queens down whether if we could get if we could
get five more Queenstowns going or ten more Queenstown's going,
then we could really up our capacity of the amount
of tourists going and make a lot of more money.
But how do we do that? And look, you say,

(21:07):
top War pretty busy down there, It's pretty busy cident
time of the year. But you need these places to
be more busy, more sort of evenly busy across the year, yeah,
rather than just in the summer or winter months. Depending
where you are.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you're
in the tourism game, I'd love to hear from you.
How is it in your area? Is there grizzles about
the infrastructure and how do we get more tourists and
spread them evenly around the country at all months of
the year.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Because it must annoy some tourists operators when they say,
when yet they hear people saying that the country's at
capacity and yet that they're they're they're not completely booked out.
Because if you're if you're a tourist operator and you're
not booked out all the time, then from your perspective,
the country isn't at capacity.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, bring them in. I love to hear from you though.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the numbered
quarters twenty nine to two.

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Speaker 3 (23:18):
Thank you very much, Raylean. It is twenty five to term.
We're talking about tourism and New Zealand. The spenders back
up to pre COVID levels, but only eighty five percent
capacity in terms of the tourist numbers, so we've got
a bit more room there to bring them in.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, so returning it so sixteen point nine billion, so
up to second after dairy in the country. Forty four
point four billion in total expenditure, So that's New Zealand
tourists going are traveling around the country as well, so
it's a huge, huge business. Obviously, the international tourists is
an export. They come in and they make us a
lot of money, so we're very, very excited about that.

(23:53):
But they seem to be just going to Queenstown primarily. Yep,
So you know, one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Where
else should they go in New Zealand? You know, we
know Rotruer, you know, the Central Plateau's got some fantastic
spots there, yep. But across the whole country, I mean
it seems you know, are you an in Vicago? Can
you get them go down Bluff?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know that's not far from Frankton, though, is it?
If you go from Frankton to Invers, that's that's a
lovely drive.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Fly straight into into Auckland. They're flying to toned An Airport.
I fly to christ Us. A lot of great stuff
around Canterbury.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Live In, Yeah, Levin's a great wheetown. Nothing wrong with Levin.
Get them into live in.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
What is Why is Queenstown so bloody great that everyone
has to go there? What is so amazing about Queenstown
that we don't have anywhere else in the country.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
It is kind of punishing, now, isn't it. Like I know,
I get Queenstown's beautiful and they've got the remarkables and
you can get on the jet boats. But when you
go down there, as Dave said, that traffic is horrendous.
The township is kind of constantly just been repaired for
some reason.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
As someone from Auckland, the traffic in Queenstown is absolutely nothing.
I don't know if I agree with that, because I
spent quite a bit of time down in arrow Town
and the traffic and from Frankton into Queenstown it ain't nothing, No,
it ain't nothing. Also, you know, there's a kind of
thing when you're on holiday where you don't want to
spend the entire holiday just waiting to get into town.

(25:16):
But I mean, you know, would I very really when
I'm down that way go into queenstowntown just for that reason?

Speaker 10 (25:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, Wanneker's nice. I'll tell you one. Golden Bay. Golden
Bay should be right up the top of that list.
You need a tunnel through that Tarkaka Hill though, so again,
there's always a.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Lot of infrastructure that needs to be built. Geez, Tyler,
why not a one hundred dollars voucher for Helensville. You
haven't lived until you've jumped off the Ottawa Road bridge
at high tide. If you jump out low tide, you'll
end up in a mangrove up your bum. All right, Okay,
you go. So that was your suggestion that there should
be when you when you arrive in Auckland. There's vouchers
that try and get people to go to different places,

(25:53):
just just to spread things out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
And what would be wrong with that? You know, if
I've got a hundred dollar vuture to go to Helensville,
God give it a crack and the mangroves.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Adrian, Sorry, Adrian, your thoughts on the situation with capacity
or not tourists in New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (26:11):
So I actually saw someone in Japan the other days.
Japan have millions and millions of tourists gorings, but they're
all going to the main centers. So what they're doing
is they're offering free domestic flights to get them into
the you know, into the smaller community. You know, if
we had that community Walkland and say you had a

(26:32):
free flight to in Chicago's and aid in our christ
Church or you know, the smaller regional airports that would
really push because who wouldn't think, oh, yeah, let's go
to in Chicago, let's get a rental car. Let's start
at the bottom and work out a way up the country.
That would be such a good way to do it.
They're going to save money. And I mean, look, when

(26:52):
we talk about these flights we are fucking on GRAB one,
they're only fifty five, sixty dollars, seventy dollars, eighty dollars.
You know you can get some real good deals. I mean,
surely the money that we're going to make in the
outlying areas is going to pay for that two times over.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
Yeah. So say let's just say a flight into Dunedian
out of Auckland is four hundred bucks each way? Can
it can be there, But let's just say it's three
hundred dollars or something like that. So do you think
as a nation we would make six hundred dollars out
of that person when they land in Doneda. I'm sure
we would.

Speaker 15 (27:29):
Yeah, absolutely absolutely, And look I mean it's yeah, I
mean in New Zealand need to do something to increase
the setage on their planes, but we know that that's
going to happen, and the government owned fifty one percent
of it, so they can tell them you need to
increase your flights to these areas so we can get
tourist said and chances are you're not going to fly

(27:53):
out of the same place.

Speaker 12 (27:54):
If you're going to fly.

Speaker 15 (27:55):
Into Dunedo, why wouldn't you hire a car and fly
out of said shirts? Yeah, or fly out of one
of the places. Because if you're going to go to Dunedin,
you know, we've got the beautiful catlands.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
You know, in the Taga.

Speaker 15 (28:09):
Into the Milford Sounds, you know, and then you come back,
drive up through Queen shown. But you're not going to
stay for the big amount of time at Queen Shown
that you are if you fly in and fly out
of that zone, because you're going to be encouraged to
do a lot more.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Do you think that people Adrian make those decisions when
they land in a country though, do you think or
do you think you'd have to have that at the
planning stage? So I guess travel agents or wherever your
booking would go. Well, you know, if you land in Auckland,
you will get a free trip to Dunedin and then
you can maybe get a you know, a rental car
over to Queenstown or something. They'd have to sell the
tour in advance because you don't really land and go

(28:46):
all there's some free frights. I'll just go and see
what of the cargo's like.

Speaker 6 (28:49):
Do you well?

Speaker 15 (28:51):
I saw on the I mean on the the Japanese
thing was that it was old on through your bookt
as long as you booked an international flight and there
was a code with it. All of your other fights
a fleet. So if you're doing it on your own
back right, sort of sit on a map, and I
mean you work your own little holiday out from there,

(29:14):
and I mean you're saving all that time you can
afford to buy a rental a rental car and you know,
and travel a little bit more. It's just there's a
lot of I mean, look, queen Sounds nice for about
two and a half hours every five years. Beyond that,
I mean, not a lot changes. It's either too hot

(29:34):
in summer or it's too cold in winter, and there's
too many people. It takes you two hours to go
from one side of the little sound to the other,
and it's the size of a postage.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Sam tell us that you're really few Adrian, but the
Japanese deal, how do they determine what towns get the love?
Do you know?

Speaker 16 (29:54):
So it's all I.

Speaker 15 (29:56):
Think it's the ones that don't have an international airport, right,
so the work on that basis so, I mean, but
here we could just have it that if you fly
you don't get it.

Speaker 16 (30:09):
If you're going to go to Auckland or to.

Speaker 15 (30:14):
Queen Shout, so you can fly into Oakland, but you
can't fly out of the same places. Say you can
play in and out of Auckland, but you just wouldn't
get you see flight if you're going to Queen Sunset.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Hey, but Adrian, who do you think would pay for that?
Would it be the Dunedan tourism or Dunedian right payers
that would pay for those flights into the city or
do you think it's central government?

Speaker 15 (30:40):
I actually think it's the tourist coming in because we
tax the tourists coming into the country, you know, a
small amount to come into New Zealand, where we just
make it a little bit more. And I mean the money,
the knock on effects from it is going to be huge.
So the money that they're being into the economy. You know,

(31:00):
if you have to charge your bed rate or you know,
there is lots of ways around doing it that the
New Zealand taxpayer. You wouldn't have to put.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
The bell tax tax everyone that's landing in Queenstown to
pay for other people to fly into Dunedin, christ Church, Wellington.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Now that's an idea.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Hey, thanks for your call, Adriana, appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
I think by and large I'll be okay with textpayer
money going into a deal like that. You know, that
makes sense to me rather than spending how much does
a one orail cost these days a couple of bill? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Well, well, as long as you could make as long
as you definitely make the money. So you have to
lift the capacity, right, Yeah, So if if you're just
a moving tourist out of Queenstown and paying for it,
then then we end up just in the exact same
making the exact same money.

Speaker 9 (31:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
So somehow you have to make these other places attractive
as well, Right, so you grow the amount of people
tourists coming. Yeah, you don't just move some from Queenstown.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
You'd have to give Leviny heads up to say, come in,
get ready, live in, lift your game.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
What do you got? What do you got that matches
the remarkables.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Great dog parks and live in oh eight one hundred
eighty is the number to call this Texas says, don't
forget about Tartanaki.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
It's like no other Yeah, I mean Mount Taranaki beautiful
absolutely all right? Okay, waite hundred eighty ten eighty. Where
are should tourists go in New Zealand? How can we
shift them around? And do you want to get right
back up to capacity where eighty five percent of the
capacity that we were in twenty nineteen? Do you want
to wrap that up to one hundred or have we
not got enough room for the tourists?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
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Speaker 3 (32:44):
Be thirteen to two. The tex machine has gone crazy.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Yeah, so we were suggesting, you know, all the tourists
go to Queenstown. That's causing problems for them. They think
they're getting close to capacity. Meanwhile, a lot of other
places wouldn't mind making a bit of money. We other
places got room on their roads for a few more tourists.
Kathman says, Raglan is my pick. Yeah, Raglan. What a
fantastic spot that is. Hey, guys, I worked as a

(33:09):
tour guide for ten years out of We don't need
more numbers until we sought out infrastructure, namely toilets and
popular spots. Embarrassing to stop, get out of van and
look down at the defication. It's not okay, says Rick.
Yeah okay, this person says, being born and growing up
just out of in Vicago, Please explain why anyone would

(33:31):
want to go there unless it's to get in a
car and go somewhere else. O.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
Come on, you can't say that about Vers.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Can't say that Invers. I've seen a lot of my
childhood in Vericago, Woodhouse Street, Mumpowell, that was my grandmar Yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I had some great nights out in Vicogol.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
Bluff spectacular down Bluff Way. And you've got to you
haven't lived till you spent some time in the Catlands.

Speaker 3 (33:51):
Oh Catland. See yeah, stop it, yeah this one sees guys.
If New Zealand wants high end tourists, then it has
to take many pages out of Las Vega. Las Vegas
casino tourist attraction branding and attractions. Oh yeah, free fly
in and out, international, exclusion of flights behind tourist, exclusive
lodgers and more casinos in New Zealand. Well, it's one

(34:13):
way to do it.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah. Well, I mean that's the thing. Queenstown natural beauty,
but it's got a great night life. So people go there,
stay in nice hotels. They've got all these different things,
adventure tourism. They can go skiing, they do all the
stuff they can look at and cruel stuff. But then
they can go out and get absolutely rinsed in town.
So to really be a massive tourist mecha, you also

(34:36):
have to bring the party. Yeah, you know, I'm looking
at you live and if you want to step up,
you're going to have to bring the party.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
And if the cargo, if you get a casino, I'll
be down there pretty fast.

Speaker 17 (34:46):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
If you've been to Duneedan casino, that's a good time.

Speaker 8 (34:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Eight d eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Blair.

Speaker 10 (34:52):
Your thoughts on this, Oh, I've got lots of thoughts
on this, to be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
Great.

Speaker 10 (34:58):
Yeah, yeah, the old made Adrian was a little bit
right when he was talking about taxing, but what you
need is a bed tax in the local town that's
spent in the local area on infrastructure to bring it
back up and get it up to speed for what's
going on around the place. The problem with Queenstown is
that it just can't cope, and generally it's a I

(35:19):
blame the central government for everything that goes on down here, really,
and the fact of the matter is that they can't
make up their mind what they want. I mean, Queenstown's
the Golden Goose, so to speak, but we're slowly strangling it, so,
you know, and eventually we'll get a bad reputation and
people won't want to come here because they can't go
anywhere because they come out, they land and they get

(35:40):
stuck in traffic. So at the end of the day,
I think that the government can't make up its mind
what it wants to do, because on one hand, we
want to build more subdivisions and we want to put
more people, local people into the town, but we also
want to build up the tourists that are coming in
here because everybody wants to come here. But we're not
actually doing anything about the roading around the place or

(36:01):
the even the you know, the the sewage treatment plants
and all that sort of theirret.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
What could did you do about the roating just geographically?
I was talking about this before getting in and out
of Queenstown. You've really only got one way in, don't you,
unless you build as was suggested for some kind of
gondola situation.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
Well, the funny thing about the gondola is it was
one of the major gondala company that offer to build
a gondola at no cost, but they read the rewards
of the tickets at self, tickets and so on and
so forth. That was you know, I can talk them
edited the two hundred and fifty million dollar exercise, but
they kind of landed on the is a little bit,

(36:41):
to be fair, and MZTA decided in their infinite wisdom
to build a two hundred and fifty million dollar roundabout
the BP, which won't fix anything. You know, the whole
thing is just crazy. So central government is part of
the problem down here, and what we need to do

(37:01):
is probably take it more into the council and have
more local solutions because they understand what's going on around
the place. So you know, big taxes, a little bit
more funding and maybe you know, essentral government funding that says, Okay,
what's the best use of this money, because you know,
they built around about and they put traffic lights and
all that sort of stuff whilst acknowledging the fact that

(37:21):
it isn't going to make a bit of difference. So
in my mind it staggers me and I don't understand
how we can come to these conclusions and how we
do the things we do down here.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Because I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what a
gondola and like I'm sure some people would complain about
the way it locks and a complicated thing. But if
you had a gondola that went basically from Franklin from
the airport, you go to the gondola and that takes
you into the city, that would be an incredible way
to enter Queenstown. That would be phenomenally beautiful.

Speaker 10 (37:52):
Absolutely, and don't forget that. You know that technology and
stuff is absolutely second to none nowadays. You can have
you know, terminals that drop into different places, you can
put corners and them, you can do all sorts.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, well, thank you so much, you think so much
for your call there, Blair really appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yeah, gondola going from Franklin to Queenston. As you say
that would be stunning, that would get me down to Queenstown.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well it's beautiful down there and yeah,
but I mean that's I think the whole thing is
that Queen's down is beautiful and you can party there
and that's what brings in a lot of Australians and
a lot of young people. Right, So we need places
that are beautiful that people can party at. Do you
where are they? One hundred and eighteen eighty nineteen nine

(38:37):
two is the text number.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
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Speaker 3 (38:52):
News talks THEREB it is four to two. A few
ticks to wrap this all up. Plenty of suggestions about
where the next Queenstown should be in New Zealand. Mata Matza,
Munga Phi is a party town, certainly.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Is well, there's good times up there.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yeah, it Golden Bay, yes, but the Tarkaka Hill would
be a problem.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I've had some good times on Tall as well.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
I've had some messes haven't they. And this one sees Nelson.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, Nelson's all right, Yeah, Nelson's a pretty good place.

Speaker 18 (39:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
So tourism earnings are up to sixteen point nine billion,
but only eighty five percent of the tourists coming in
as we were last time we made that much money.
We probably need to do something about infrastructure if we
want to get that up to one hundred percent. One
hundred and ten percent and rarely make some money off
our tourists. Fleees them fleeesome.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
Great chat, thank you very much. Right after two o'clock,
let's have a chat about ird potentially targeting the backbone
of the community. Are beloved clubs. That's coming up A
one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

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Speaker 3 (40:11):
Welcome back in to the show. Great day of your
company as always so Inland revenue is setting at sites
on taxing nine thousand club societies and other not for
profits under changes that could be implemented. To chat about
this further, we're joined by independent tax specialist Jeff Nightingale,
who's on the line now, Cheff, very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 17 (40:35):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Hey, So Jeff, how does tax on clubs and societies
currently work?

Speaker 17 (40:42):
Yes, at the moment they have one thousand dollars tax
free threshold for interest income you know, from investments and things.
But all of their transactions with their members, subscriptions, in
any trading amongst the members that they generally have been
seen to be not taxable tax free because they are

(41:03):
mutual transactions. They're not about making a profit, but just
about sharing the costs around, you know, around the members.

Speaker 10 (41:09):
And so it's.

Speaker 17 (41:11):
That that ideas suggesting might have to change.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
So we're talking subs at a bowling club for example.

Speaker 10 (41:20):
Yeah, probably not a bowling club.

Speaker 17 (41:22):
So there is a specific exemption for pure sporting amateur
sporting bodies. We're talking maybe.

Speaker 10 (41:28):
Subs at a bridge club.

Speaker 17 (41:30):
We're talking contributions to your local residents association, body, corporate,
you know, a myriad of you know, non profit making
mutual associations where people organize themselves together and share the costs.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Right, so you could say, like on the on the
most sort of lowest level of it, even though they
are a great time, especially when they're up in a nightclub.
But say you're running a book club with your friends,
and you will put some money into the book club,
the i D thinks it should take some of that.

Speaker 17 (42:04):
Well, yes, But more to that, what's happened is that
they've reached an interpretation internally that changes their view of
the law, and that changes the view from those subscriptions
or levees were non taxable, and now they're saying it's
possible that they're taxable, and so now they're consulting on

(42:25):
that before they change their view. Formally, they're saying, hey,
what does everyone think about this? And I think the
answer is we don't like change.

Speaker 12 (42:32):
And we want to stay with the status quiet.

Speaker 17 (42:35):
But I mean, I think to be fair, the subtext
is they are collecting evidence to go back to the
Ministry of Revenue and say, we don't want to make
this change. Here's a whole bunch of reasons on our consultation,
so let's tweak the law so we don't have to
make this change. I think that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
And is this looking at churches and businesses like sanitarium
for example, is this under this whole scope of this investigation.

Speaker 10 (43:03):
Yes, that's right. So we were expecting.

Speaker 17 (43:07):
A discussion document on the taxation of charitable businesses and
that's the sanitariums and others of this world. Tacked onto
that was a chapter dealing with this not for profit,
so that that caught us by surprise. So we were
expecting the government to do some work on whether they
should tax the business operations of charities.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
The unintended consequences of changes to tax legislation and it
worries me when they are you know, they change their
interpretation of the law. For most people, you'd think the
law is the law and interpretation shouldn't come into it.
Is that just the complexity when there are changes to
these particular tax laws.

Speaker 10 (43:48):
Yeah, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 17 (43:50):
Certainty of tax law is an important thing and changes
are very unsettling and to be avoided. Sometimes it's unavoidable.
And you know, I've advised many clubs and associations over
the years and we've always dealt with it in the
way that I had accepted. And so this change is
a surprise and creates uncertainty. I think IOD in their

(44:15):
own way attempting to cure it, but at the moment
we are left with uncertainty if you are the treasurer
of a club or a little association.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
So just to make this clear because I'm a little
bit confused on that. So they're planning to target around
nine thousand clubs. What's the difference between a club, a society,
and a trade association.

Speaker 17 (44:37):
Well, they might be formed under different laws like incorporated
societies or not. They might just be unincorporated. The unifying
factor is they're not about making a profit. So if
you think of the Bridge Club, the Bridge Club is
about helping people play bridge. If you think about the

(44:58):
Residents Association, it's as a voice for the residents. So
they're not about making profits, and they share their costs
amongst the members. That's how they operate. And so that's
that's the nine thousand and some of these very big
So if you think about a trade union, that's an
association that's not about making a profit, it's about members.
But and some of the Professional Association's trade associations could

(45:22):
be caught up in all of this, So there is
a big issue. It has up to now been a
very settled area of tax law, and they've kind of
thrown the cat amongst the pigeons but I think the
purpose of the discussion document is to try and find
good reasons to fix the problems.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
We're talking to independent tax specialists. Jeff Nightingale, So you
said before that there's different provisions for a sports club,
and you see it might be different from a sports
club as opposed to a bridge club. Is that correct?

Speaker 10 (45:53):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (45:53):
Yeah, So there is a specific tax exemption for the
promotion of amateur sport and that's been there for years
and there's no suggestion that that's going to change, that's
not being mentioned. So so that should take out all
of the sports clubs that the pure sports clubs you

(46:14):
do get into definitional the challenges of what's the sport
and what.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I'm going to say, so because because someone might say bridge,
you know, is kind of a sport. Is chess considered
a sport?

Speaker 3 (46:26):
Bingo?

Speaker 17 (46:27):
That's on the line exactly, Yeah, walking ringo?

Speaker 4 (46:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Well, I mean, well I've got kids that try and
claim that Fortnite is a sport.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Jeff, thank you very much for having.

Speaker 2 (46:41):
Just before we go, Do do you think that seriously
in this in this look that things like I guess,
musical clubs, you know, pastime clubs, motor clubs. I'm just
pulling clubs out of my court. That would that would
be that would seem terrible to me, because because in
my opinion that clubs. We need more clubs, We need
more people in the community getting out and getting together.
And I feel very sorry. I see club houses, I

(47:04):
see people trying to organize these things, and there's a
lot of stress on these peop but everyone's really really
busy and they're trying to put these things together that
are good for the community, and I would just hate
to see another level of admin or another level of
difficulty put on these people to the point where they
just throw up their hands in the air and go,
I can't be bother doing this anymore.

Speaker 17 (47:24):
I completely agree, but I also suspect that I do
agree with you, and they're trying to get enough feedback
to go back to the Minister of Revenue and say, hey,
this isn't a good idea to make this change.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Okay, so this is my feedback. It's not a good idea.
There's a feedback from you write your submission, yeah, yeah,
and look, you can have your feedback on this. On
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine two nine
two and also write a submission, Hey, thank you so much.
That was Independent tax specialist Jeff Nightingale.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Thanks Jeff.

Speaker 17 (47:57):
Nowhere is Andrews.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
Thank you all right? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. The text machine has
blowing up. How do you feel about this? How do
you feel about ID potentially coming for your belo Bridge Club,
the Cosy Club, the Clearly and I know Iris paid
some Texas, right, but.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Your musical club, yeah, you know, your banned, your Residents Association,
your book club. It does seem you know, I mean,
I just think that that thing and actually I'll talk
about it. I interviewed this guy called Max Dickens who
wrote this book called Billy Nomades, and it's about the
loneliness crisis that's hitting the Western world and people just

(48:36):
being stuck in their homes and there's ability for people
not to go out and in at all. And there's
some claims that that loneliness can be as bad for
you as fifteen cigarettes a day. I'm not sure if
I believe that, but there's there's there's claims in an
UK study that came up with that. So everything we
can do in the community, to make it easier to
run clubs and societies and opportunities for people to get

(48:59):
together and do something productive. I think we should. We
should do everything we can to grease the wheels to
make those kind of things happen.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Absolutely, if you're involved in these club societies or other
than not for profits, love to hear from you. Well,
how much hours do you put into it? If you're treasurer,
if you're part of the committee, if you just go
down there and mow the lawns and take park, love
to hear from.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
You, because you could even just get a little bit
of a free plug in for your club.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Yep, exactly. How one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call? It is sixteen past two.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Your new home of afternoon talk Matt and Taylor Afternoons
with the Volvo XC ninety. Turn every journey into something special.
Call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
ZIB News Talks. There'd be some great texts coming through
on clubs and societies within New Zealands.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Yeah, around nine thousand clubs, societies, trade association's, professional and
regulary bodies and industrial councils, industry councils are in line
to possibly be slapped with a tax bill. This text
here is what I like to hear. Shout out to
the MCC Masonic Cricket Club, Devenport, four dollar bears, six
dollars big bots, get out, get out of it with

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your meddling. Id I love that?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
Wow, that's so hang.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
On six dollar big bots.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
What's a big bot? Is that a jug? That's a
leader jug?

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Is it is that open to anyone that jumps on
the fury and goes over there? Or is that just
for members?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
Well, if it's just for members on kang el sign up.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Honestly, what's the difference a club and a church is
a text? If the whole purposes around bringing a group
of people together across a common purpose and not make money,
surely they have to start texting churches. I think, you know,
I'm not sure everyone's going in the churches, but churches
are club churches a ways people get together. You know,
I was talking before about this guy I interview called

(50:46):
Max Dickens, who's a UK writer, who was talking about
loneliness and he basically found out he had no mates.
So it was called billying moonates. It's a great book,
and he spent a whole year trying to find mates,
basically because it was killing him that he didn't have mates.
And after a year of trying to make friends, his
conclusion at the end of the book was that the
that the best strategy was the most obvious one. Show

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up in places where you can actually meet people. Gyms,
sports teams, cooking classes, clubs, games nights, anywhere you might
come across like minded people or if you're desperate, any
type of people. He actually ended up joining a military
board games club.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
And you know, you might think that's boring, personally, I'd
love that, and he found new mates there, so you know,
outside of the issue of tax and whether they get
hit or not, I just think clubs in any way
that we can get together as human beings is so fantastic.
And the people that put those together and hold them
and do all the punishing admin around running a club

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and organizing it, they're called Shirpa's. These people. They bring
people together. I just think that that is about the
best thing you can do in any community care.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
They're going back a wee while, but the old man
was the president of the Nelson Squash club and he
put man he puts some hours into there. Absolutely loved
it because he got together with his mates and love squash.
But that was our childhood, hanging out at the Nelson
Squash Club and we'd have all our friends there and
we'd have the empty squash courts that we could do
what we want with. But from the ages of five
to ten, I pretty much lived most of my life

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at the Nelson Squash Club after school. Loved it.

Speaker 2 (52:22):
There's a lot of swinging squash clubs, isn't there. Apparently
these people are texting big bottle beer. It's a create bottle,
you know? Are you seriously suggesting text? Is Mike Brendan
that I don't know what a big bott is? I
was just saying six dollars is a good deal for
a big bot. Look, I used to protect my Create
at university. I would fight anyone that when anywhere near
my big bots because so I could return the crate

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and get the get the discount of.

Speaker 3 (52:46):
Talking to text?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
How dare you Brendan and Max? Mike suggests that I
don't know what a big bot is. I've nevertually never
I've had a lot offensive texts sent through to me
since I've been working at used to ZB, but no
one's ever suggested I don't know what a big body is.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
You've taken a time out of there.

Speaker 2 (53:02):
I'm actually genuinely hurt by that.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Can I say? I was the one that said his
big bot a jug? So you know that's that was me.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
You said that, I don't know if we can work
together a little more time.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
We're gonna have to sort this out in the air brack, aren't.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
We, Neil. Yeah, your thoughts on this, not the big
body shirt, the issue around clubs and the I.

Speaker 16 (53:23):
D Hey, guys, Hi, sorry, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
What are you doing? Just you pull over ye and
then get us on off the hands free into a
nice clear line.

Speaker 19 (53:37):
Yeah, yeah, beautiful organization. Big organization is even called the
Charter Clubs of New Zealand. So these are all your
cozy clubs. You're working men's clubs, you you know, sort
of some of the r s os, but a younger
demographic if you like. So, you know, instead of going
to the pub after work, bokes will bowl and the
gun boots and have a beer and the game of

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pool and darts and snooker and you know whatever else.
You guys probably been to a cozy club in your lifetime.

Speaker 10 (54:04):
Haven you.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Great place?

Speaker 19 (54:07):
Yeah, awesome place, safe, safe place to socialize and cheaper
alcohol as well, been doing the pub So I mean
we would they sit in under this regime?

Speaker 2 (54:21):
Yeah, well, I mean that's I guess that's the question
that we're looking into. So Finance Minister Nicola Willis is
keen to crack down a businesses masquerading as charities to
reduce their tax bills. And you'd absolutely hope that the
cozi clubs wouldn't be wouldn't be hit r s as

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but you don't know if they're taking money and to
do a you know, to buy drinks or or or whatever,
they might be hit in this in the in this
change of of how the the IRD deals with with
clubs and such.

Speaker 19 (54:56):
Yeah, and most of these clubs have poke machines as well,
so there's that element. You know, you've got income from
the pokey's coming into the club. And of course every
club has a little section where people putting money for
I don't know, the trips away for the snook or
there reino racing and that type of thing. So it's

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into oven into New Zealand society. The charter clubs that
have been around for I don't know, well since probably
my my grandparents. I'm in my sixties now, so then
they go right back to whenever.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, and what what's the membership of the cozy club
like now where you are, Neil, still pretty strong.

Speaker 19 (55:34):
Very strong actually, And here's the plug for the Papa
Toy Toy Cosmo Polling Club, the center of Papa Toy Toy.

Speaker 16 (55:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (55:45):
So we have a lot of young families that have
joined up now simply because it's it's a good venue.
There's we've got good entertainment, live bands, got a great
lounge bar, we have good meals, good restaurant, blah blah blah,
good boy, you to tears. Were membership's growing, membships growing,
unlike some other clubs are says in particular, where the

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membership is falling. So yeah, yeah, you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Completely it's it's completely not for profit. The Papitoi Cosmopolitan Club, well.

Speaker 19 (56:18):
You know, supposedly, I don't delve into the deep places
in the office. You know, I'm just there to have
a bear and have a you know, a game of
pool and whatever else and socialized.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
So it's a spectacular setup. You got there. I'm just
picture of it.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
They've got a gym.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
It's a big building with the a.

Speaker 19 (56:36):
A gym as well.

Speaker 4 (56:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (56:37):
Yeah, we are the national center for snooker and billiards
in New Zealand.

Speaker 6 (56:42):
So yeah, you know, you.

Speaker 19 (56:44):
Guys will have handed It's only I won't mention the
price to join. But it's not that it's not their expenses.
How much is the bear bear so your big bottles
ten bucks? Yeah, twelve dollars normally in pubs and they
you know, we also have specials. But hey, I'm just
it's probably something that any other member of any other
club in the country would repeat as well.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
You know, opening hours Monday twelve pm to closing time
every day twelve pm to close, except for Sunday twelve
pm to close. So I guess closes when it's.

Speaker 19 (57:16):
Closed, pole get kicked out.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
It's a moving it's a moving closing time, all right,
think if you cool Neil appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Thanks mate. Oh had one hundred and eighty ten eighty
you would have been part of clubs before, no doubt,
sports sports clubs. Yep, what about the likes of the
Cosmopolitan Club.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I have never been belonged to a Cosmopolatan club. I
have I have belonged to a Surf Life Saving club.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, and how much did that cost?

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Well, it was ANOSA and you sign up for the night. Yes,
tell the story if what everyone knows about anyone that's
been to NUSA knows about the nusa's Surf Life Saving
Club in Australia, so they there's different rules around around
these clubs, right, So you sign up and you get
your identification when you get to the door, and your order,

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your a chicken Parmejana and your beer, and then you
go and sit and look at the surf.

Speaker 3 (58:14):
It's bloody fantastic mate, you were great. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty. If you're part of a club, how
do you feel about the IID potentially eyeing up your
subscriptions and levies?

Speaker 2 (58:24):
Yeah, And if you are trying to run a club
and it's going, you know, and you know you want
to share the name of the club, but also tell
us what it takes to keep something going. Like I
know that the sports clubs aren't going to be targeted
by this, but if you are running a sports club
and you know what it would be at a rugby club,
you odding club, whatever club a club it is you've
got out there, bowls club, croquet club my dad's into.

(58:47):
Then we'd love to talk to you about the challenges
you're facing out there at the moment. So eight hundred
eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two is the
text number.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
We're talking about club societies and not for profits, potential
for inland revenue to set their sites on, taxing the
backbones of the community, those clubs, nine thousand of them
in New Zealand. It's on the back of a change
in interpretation of the law. But if you're part of
a club, love to hear from you, even the sports clubs.

(59:27):
You know, what does it take to run those clubs?
How many hours do you put into it? How much
do you rely on the good nature of your committee
members and our memberships staying static at the moment. Love
to hear from you on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
Couple of texts because we're wildly late. Sally says, there's
only one thing that can be said about this tax

(59:47):
change the Emperor's new clothes Athlee insane and bizarre government
has got this wrong.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
Yeah, and nudist clubs speaking of which might be targeted
as well.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
How dare they need to not take on the nudist
clubs right where we'll take a few more of your
phone calls very shortly headlines with Raylene coming.

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Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Thank you very much, Rayleen, and we are talking about
the ird setting at sites on texting nine thousand club
societies and other not for profits.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Michael asks, does that mean news clubs will be taxed
on tackle and hanging assets, because if they are not,
then that would be a real bum rush. Okay, Michael, thank.

Speaker 3 (01:01:39):
You very good, Yeah, very good. Yes, yes, yes, Michael,
more of those Michael. Nine to nine two is the
text number. Bryce, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 14 (01:01:51):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
Bryce? Very good? What are you reckon about this?

Speaker 16 (01:01:57):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (01:01:58):
Dodging?

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Dodging yep.

Speaker 18 (01:02:00):
So look over a golf club and this is a
sport country club and we're going to try and go
for charity stations stat and there's a bitter benefit to
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Yea, yeah, yeah, away with you.

Speaker 18 (01:02:16):
Okay, there's a bit of benefit. One of the benefits
quite a lot more brance being a charity.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
So what did you say there? Just I didn't quite hear.
What was that first benefit you said? Yeah, you can
apply for brant Okay, yep, yep.

Speaker 18 (01:02:34):
You can play with a lot more brand So being
a charity, you can also get a lot more sponsors
because they get thirty percent of their tacks if they
spossor you.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
What do you have to do, Bryce, to become a
charity at your golf club? What are the hoops you
have to go through?

Speaker 18 (01:02:49):
Oh, it's very tough. It's very tough as a matter
of persevering and jumping through all the hoops and proving
that you do a fair bit of charitable work in
the community.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Do you do a fair bit of charitable work in
the community.

Speaker 16 (01:03:03):
Yeah, we do.

Speaker 18 (01:03:04):
We do a lot of junior golf and all that
sort of thing to bring young people into the game.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
And how do they how do they measure that? Bryce?
Is it down to you know, man hours of charitable
work or is it the money that you pump into
the community.

Speaker 18 (01:03:20):
It's basically the money you pump into the community, so
you know, and the company is coming down on the
charities and looking at a lot of businesses who are
charities for say the charities on how much they make
and what do they do in the community.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Yeah, what, well do you mind me asking what your
golf club is? Where it is in the name of it.

Speaker 18 (01:03:43):
It's up in north called the White.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Golf Club, the White Poo Golf Club and the Golf Club.
And how many members do you have?

Speaker 18 (01:03:54):
We have about te one hundred?

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
Oh yes, is it busy? Like how hard is it
to get a tea time?

Speaker 18 (01:04:03):
It's not hard at all. You've got your peak hours
through that, you know, through the summer and then a
cross off through the winter.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
So so if Matt was to head up on Saturday,
do you reckon? You could squeeze them in at ten
am and that's a heckle time.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Wow, this your golf club is? Your golf club is beautiful?
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 18 (01:04:25):
Yeah, you look right out over the in the check Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
That is absolutely stunning. Also, looks like you've got some
good food there as well. Looking at some of the
find looking at a ghetto, they're.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
All some nice nice Panini's in the cabinet.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yeah, very nice.

Speaker 18 (01:04:44):
But it's a club that's building, you know, so it's
it's a clo we need every sense because I was,
you know, we're doing a lot of things in the
club and for the text man to come along knocking
on the door, he's not going to be very welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:04:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
I bet out of your seven hundred members, Bryce, how
many wood would you know offer up some man hours
for the club and you know, getting behind the bar
and that sort of thing.

Speaker 18 (01:05:07):
It's basically we've got the start, we've got a professional manager,
et cetera that runs that side of things. But you
know you are to anybody to do work like you
need to work out on the fourth and that you'll
get forty at least thirty to forty volunteers will rock up,
you know, to do work on the stuff. And of
course all the camp club, captain's presidents, all those members
are all they're all volunteers.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
How many full time ground staff do you have?

Speaker 16 (01:05:34):
We have I think four?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, because it's a it's a big club,
isn't it. It's a big area.

Speaker 18 (01:05:40):
Oh yeah, you know, and it's a lot of work.
But you know, we're we're a club that's building is
certainly looking a lot better now that it was, say
five or six years ago, with no riticulation now so
and all that cost amount of money, so every day
counts brilliant. Well, I don't know whether. I don't know
where the tax man is coming from, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Yeah, I think you're going to be right. I think
that sports clubs they're going to be okay. I think
they've got a special exemption that that might might protect
the sports clubs. So I think you're gonna be okay, Bruce.
But Bryce, but good luck with your charitable status. And yeah,
what an absolutely beautiful club. I must come and check
it out at some point.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
Yeah, yes, time right, thanks Bryce, It is a beautiful,
beautiful club. And yeah, well spaced out. I mean you
should have got a tea time off of price at
their point. It was on the plant for you, mate,
some texts coming through guys. Of course, Cozi club should pay.
They are competing with other commercial enterprises, Sanitarium and some

(01:06:43):
of the other churches earning moneies should pay. But not
a bridge club. It is not competing in a market.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Well that's a really good point. I hadn't thought about that.
In terms of coze clubs, because if you've got a
cozy club that's, you know, near a bar, then they
are taking business off the bar. That is That is
an interesting point of it that I hadn't thought of.
So that's a good point. Thank you for your text.

Speaker 3 (01:07:03):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Next up, we're gonna have a chant to the club
of a bridge club which could be targeted, so stand
by for that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
It is seems so unfair that bridge clubs aren't considered
sports club.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
That's a sport, a that is a sport.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
I need to get that. I need to drill in
and find out someone. Can someone tell me if you
know it. They're in one hundred and eighty ten at
where there a chess club is considered a sports club.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
Nineteen two three.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Have a chat with the lads on eight hundred eighty
ten eighty Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo XC
ninety tick every box, a seamless experience of Weeds News talks.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
They'd be good afternoon to you seventeen to three and
we're talking about clubs. Potentially the ID may try to
come for some of you clubs and societies.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Here's a text on ninet two nine two. The headlines
the media, including news talks b are reporting are somewhat
over dramatized. The purpose of the government review into texting, nonprofits,
et cetera is to target those clubs and nonprofits who
insert trading businesses into their structure to harbor profits under
their it's part of their purpose. The fact is most
clubs only get income from members and pay this back

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out and running costs, so they have very little profits.
So it's a moot point. Anyway, we can all agree
if a club started a business to make a profit
to promote its own purpose, then they should be taxed
as a business. If their income is only from the
member subscriptions, then it should be exempt from tax. It's
not fair. Other businesses who compete with these businesses owned
by a nonprofit have to pay tax and they don't.

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Fantastic text.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Yeah, fair point, Yeah, fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:08:40):
But also if we get to promote a few club
clubs while we're talking about it and the general idea
of clubs and the hard work that goes into running
club even with tax exemption that you have now because
you're just running subscriptions. Still so much work and these
are the best of us. They're great New Zealanders that
put that effort into two bringing something together that other

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people can come and enjoy, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Fantastic, absolutely, Kim, good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
Sorry Kim, I was pressing the button but you didn't
come on. So, Kim, you're a manager of a bridge club.

Speaker 11 (01:09:17):
Yes I am. Yes, how you're both doing very good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Great to check to you.

Speaker 11 (01:09:22):
Yes, so you go, thank you. So you've had a
bit of experience in clubs because I was the manager
at golf clubor country club back in the day, and
then I went to well, yeah you say that, but

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yacht club and now I'm at the bridge club. So
and my son's the general manager at a golf club too,
So we've got a few bit of club experience. And
I can fully appreciate the amount of work that volunteers
put into all clubs. I mean, I'm employed, unpaid, but
I couldn't do it without the volunteers.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
And what do you get out of it for yourself?
Is it worth worth your time and effort?

Speaker 11 (01:10:14):
Yeah, because people are lovely. I really enjoy seeing the
friendships that are made across the bridge table. That go
on to last in our lifetime. Often when people are
learning to play bridge together, then they kind of partner
up and become buddies, which is very cold. I think
there's a lot of lonely people well in our community

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that can find that friendship. I mean, they might live
in even a very busy retirement village for example, but
it doesn't mean to say, you know that they necessarily
make friends there. So having a shared interest is a
common factor. But why I was particularly interested in listening

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to you to your independent text consultant who was very
good as he said about bridge might get targeted, but
bowls won't. And we're just going through the process and
looking at moving our bridge club with a bowling club
right thinking, And for me, I've always felt that a

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bridge or chess or anything that is exercising your brain,
how is that different to doing running around a field.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Or bizarre if that is true? And I'm just trying
to work it out now that if because what is
the difference really bridge chess? As you say, whatever it is,
what's the difference? You know, maybe because you know, you
could say, well, sports clubs they bring in you know,
they you know, improve health and such but Bridge, boy, boy,

(01:11:52):
Bridge is going to grow the size of your brains,
the amount of neurons you need to be running through.
There's a healthy side of Bridge. It's beyond me and
I've got friends that have got into Bridge over the
years and it's all consuming, isn't it. Cam You can go.

Speaker 11 (01:12:10):
I can probably name about three people who were one
hundred and one or one hundred and three years old
and they're totally onto it, very very together. Yeah, so
there must be something. It's something again from when you're
I don't know the team.

Speaker 2 (01:12:27):
To one hundred and two now can come bowling clubs
notoriously big drinkers. Is that the same with Bridge? Is
there a few gins with Bridge?

Speaker 11 (01:12:39):
Oh yeah, there's a few gens for some of them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yes, yes, But a Bridge club doesn't typically have a bar.
Is that? Am I right?

Speaker 11 (01:12:48):
Well, we've got one, okay, but to be there, it's
it's not a big commercial type bar. It's just for
that purpose the members. On a Friday afternoon, you can
finish up and then have a bit of a social
side with a gin on the cour wine or a beer.

(01:13:10):
And so it's very low key, even though we have
to go through all these yeah, obviously look a licensing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
My dad does the greens at a croquet club and
he's very devoted from Fantastic Croquet Club Lea Leaf Croquet
Club in Dunedin, and he he said that interestingly and
that one of the really interesting things is that croquet
clubs don't have bars, but bowling clubs do. So sometimes

(01:13:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
What would love. I'd love a drink if I was
playing croquet, played it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
It seems it seems perfect for some pims or something,
doesn't it, But just some some clubs. That's why I
asked the question about about bridge, because some clubs have
bars and some just by their very definition don't. Because
I think bridge clubs do, but I'm pretty sure chess
well you've told me that your bridge club has once,
so I know that now. But I don't think chess
clubs have bars. Do they?

Speaker 11 (01:14:07):
I don't think so, because it's she's quite the annually
hire our rooms so so no. But the bowling club
that we're looking to merge with they've got a bar
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
That's great.

Speaker 11 (01:14:20):
Yeah, it's going to be a nice merger, I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
So we haven't seen the name you view a bridge
club or the bowling club you're going to merge with.
Do you want to you want to share that name?

Speaker 21 (01:14:28):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Are you looking for people to join?

Speaker 11 (01:14:31):
Always all clubs, you know, I'm at a club, Bridge Club,
and we've just got a course of lessons about to
start on the March actually because the more than area.

Speaker 15 (01:14:45):
So just go Bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:14:47):
So you are a k BC dot co dot and
Z just google Auckland Bridge Club. Yeah, thank you, thank you,
thank you so much for your call. Come and I
hope that merger goes well.

Speaker 11 (01:14:58):
Thank you. It's a really good topic and I appreciate
the opportunity to talk with you.

Speaker 18 (01:15:04):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Likewise, thanks for giving us a buzz right there. As
the backbone all of our communities, people like came, Yeah,
I mean that is who is making sure that people
out there have social contact, that they have an enjoyable
place to sit down and make friends, get some cheap
at cocktails if they so want it. But that is
that is what makes New Zealand a special place. Absolutely,

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clubs right there, and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
Yeah, as I say, Bridge so incredibly complex that you know,
I've got a friend that's got into Bridge. She's probably
at the younger end of Bridge players, but She's just
tried to explain it to me, and it is so
freaking complicated at ack of a game playing Bridge. If
you play Bridge regularly, you will get smarter. There's there's
no two ways about it. I'm probably not smart enough

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to get there to even start playing, but if you
are smart enough to start playing, then you will get
smarter playing it right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:55):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty it is eight
two three, the.

Speaker 4 (01:16:00):
Issues that affect you and a bit of fun along
the way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
Matt and Taylor afternoons with the Volvo X eighty Innovation
stuff and design have it all, News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
B, News Talk z B and great discussion about clubs
within New Zealand. It was on the back of the
inland revenue supposedly coming for the clubs in terms of text,
but sports clubs are exempt for some reason. Bridge clubs
are not, but some great texts have come through.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
North shaw Bridge Club. Takapoona does not have a bar,
so the Auckland Bridge Club does. And croquet clubs do
not have bars, but bowling clubs do. It's interesting, it's
interesting the traditions High Team. I own a martial arts
self defense club and a little tapooky about one hundred strong.
It's registered under an umbrella company because although the intention

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is for it to benefit the community not for profit,
one day it might be profitable. And I don't want
to have to have any battles with the ID. I
am self employed as an electrician and the ID side
of things is hard enough without battles regarding not for
profit admin. All right, so you look look that up.
Martial arts self to Prince Club and to Pookie.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
Yep, Mounts Albert Bridge Club operates only with volunteers. Doesn't
have a bar either, but a wonderful communal culture. We
bought our building through fundraising from Ann There you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
Go, there, you go. Okay, So I would like a bar.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
In the club, though, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
So Auckland Bridge Club is an outlier and having a
bar as far as Bridge Club's concerned. And now it's
mixing with a bowling club and you know bowling clubs
are absolute So kids bols.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Massive boozers, massive boozers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:35):
And to the conversations, sports clubs are facing a challenge
with the new Incorporated Society Act. All need a new
constitutional loose status next year. Cannot then find get funding.
So much compliance committee volunteers now have lie bildly clubs
now need extra insurance. And this goes into how many
clubs will not continue and the loss this is to
our community for connections which our kids and elderly people

(01:17:58):
really really need. Yeah, we need to make it as
easy as possible for people to make clubs and societies
and get together. Of course, if people are taking the
purse and profiteering from it, as opposed to run it
as a nonprofit, which is meant to do, then that's
a different issue. I'm sure the idea will knock on
your door. But clubs are great and the people that
work hard for clubs are the best of.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Us, beautifully said, and that is where we'll leave a
good discussion. But after three o'clock, let's have a chat
about the worst cockups that you have done in the workplace.
On the back of quite a great story, not for
the driver in question, but a great story about a
driver that took off after a house they were transporting
fell off the truck. We'll tell you more very shortly.
But our eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the

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number four nineteen nine two is the text New Sport
and Weather on its way, you're listening to Matt and
Tyler Good afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:18:53):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo XC
ninety News Talk V.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
Hello, welcome back into the show. Six past three. So,
story that caught both of our attention. It's a headline
driver's sword after house falls off truck in the Far North.
So police are appealing for information about a bizarre incident
involving a house falling off a truck, a blocked road
in a vanishing trucky. So speculation in the Far North

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as to what happened ranges from an amateur horse house
moving attempt on horribly wrong to an extraordinary brazen theft attempt.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
So basically, this is a terrible moving attempt. There's a
house that's fallen off the truck's jackknife, and we've probably
all experienced this failed moving attempts, and that's what we
want to talk about this hour. I Way one hundred
and eighty ten eighty A Moving disasters. We are currently
in the studio almost about to put a one on
our days since major in studio accidents after yesterday's coffee spillage.

(01:19:58):
If we make it through this hour, then we can
put a one up there. But yeah, so you're moving
a house and look, there's some suggesting this isn't even
his house. He might have stolen the house. That's a
brazen theft. But either way, whether it was his house
or an amateur moving job or whatever's going on here,
had an absolute mayor, hasn't nailed this moving of a

(01:20:19):
house at all. No, And you know he probably he
probably backed himself, obviously backed himself at the start to
move a house. Yeah, you know I wouldn't. I wouldn't be.
I wouldn't think I had the wear of thoo to
move a mover house. But yeah, eight hundred at eighty ten,
eighty nine, two ninety two. So we can help the
world out there. We'd love you to share your moving disasters.

(01:20:41):
You were times when you tried to move something and
it went horribly wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
So I've had a couple. And the last one was
when we were trying to take some stuff to the
dump down in christ Jooch and we had a trailer,
but it was a trailer without a cage on it,
which I think is always you know, a little bit problematic.
But had my father in law with me Mabe's dad, Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
And had important to get this kind of stuff right
in front of your father in law.

Speaker 4 (01:21:05):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
I know, I know, well, you know, to be maybe
I was being well. I thought I was being a
little bit too safe here. So we had four couches
and pretty big couches that we needed to get to
the dump. And I thought, this is at least two trips, right,
And of course Pete is a real man. He said no, no, no, no,
we'll stack them all up. And this was I'm not
joking here. This would have been about four or five

(01:21:27):
meters high on a on a trailer with no fricking
cage on it. I respect that, yep, and only two straps.
I had a third strap. I had a third strap
ready to go, and Pete.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Full doctor Zeos type operation.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
You're running there, yeah, And Pete said, nahah, doesn't need
a third strap. He just you know, tugged on those
two straps and said she ain't gone nowhere, as is
mandatory to do in that situation. And obviously we took
off to the dump and there was a part of
the road that had Sadi k and we didn't hear
anything at this point in time. I just put it

(01:21:58):
that way. There was a lot of noise going on,
the windows were down, and then we get to the
dump obviously and go to unload these couches and there
was only three couches instead of four. H Pete. I
was like, well, that's not a bad so I talk
about it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
That's bad. It's the seventy success rate on bringing the couches.
So you didn't go back and track your path to
find out what had happened to that couch.

Speaker 3 (01:22:23):
Yeah, we tried to find it, Yeah, and we got
it right.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
So so the best case scenario is that that's fallen
off and bounced nicely to the side of the road
and someone's pulled over and thought that it was free
to a good home.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Yeah, well or hopefully straight into the river. The whip
going past a river.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
That's not great for the for the wildlife. Well yeah,
I mean that's a question how high up can you
strap a trailer? And also I've got a question for
you one hundred and eighteen eighty nine nine two. So
I was moving a scaffold the other day, yep, giving
a moving a scaffold to my mate Mike's house. I've
been painting a house and I was moving the scaffold.

Speaker 10 (01:22:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:22:57):
This was on the weekend, aaturally.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Oh yes, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
And I was trying to work out I couldn't get
the ute, so I was putting it at the back
of a hatchback. I was putting it back in the
back of a Ford Focus and you know there's a
lot of room back in there. So, you know, we
put the scaffold and it was pretty complex, complex, and
I had my son there and I was looking at
tying up and I thought, no, I'll use my son.
So what I did is I tied around the back

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of the scaffold and then I got him on the
front seat just to hold on. And then we drove
down the road with the the you know the boot
up right?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:23:29):
Are you allowed to do that? Is that legal? Because
I mean, you know, he's a strong lad, he's fifteen. Yeah,
he can hold on. I mean it was a bit
ropey at times. Part of the pun. He was really
struggling to hold on to the scaffold because decent sized
scaffold pretty heavy.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
How did he feel about it?

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
He was really empty the whole thing. The whole time
he was going, this is a really bad idea dad,
And this is often the situation I get in with
my kids were there, they're more sensible than me. But
you know, in my defense, we got there on time
and with you know, ninety percent of the scaffold still
in the back of the car.

Speaker 4 (01:24:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
So is there a responsible or Kiwi ingenuity? I think
Kiwi ingenuity. You got the job done.

Speaker 2 (01:24:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was that same attitude that
this guy with this housetop to moving the house. And
what happens is he's ended up with this house no
longer on his truck and he's fled the scene of
the crime. Love to hear from you on this one
oh eight one hundred eighty ten eight years and I
we call nine two nine two is the text number.
It is twelve past three News Talk z'd be good

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afternoon to you. And we've talked about transport disasters or
asked the question about for your transport disasters, moving disasters,
moving disasters. This from James Day. We were due to
move into newly built house stop Bank on Salwyn River
burst and as we arrive in the removal truck, we
are stuck four hundred meters away from our house and

(01:24:48):
water was fifty centimeters deep across our entire four are section.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
Are you poor bugger?

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Not optimal? Sorry to hear that, James, Mike, You've got
a move all problem.

Speaker 21 (01:25:03):
Yeah, Hi guys, Yeah, does.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
That make sense what I said? That amval problem? That's
not what I A moving disasters.

Speaker 21 (01:25:11):
Yeah, definitely a moving disaster. Perhaps twenty years ago, I
worked for a maintenance company and we were in Mission Bay,
just off God and Prayers, and we were at the
top of a street that went down a huge The
street went down a huge valley about three hundred meters,
really steep, and we were at the very top and

(01:25:32):
the deck we were working on was above the driveway,
which was also very steep, and we parked the trailer up,
one of those big commercial trailers that actually had a
handbrake that you could put the handbrake on yep, and
we thought sweet. So we were busting up this deck
and we were for hours. We were throwing tiles into

(01:25:53):
the trailer and I don't know, it must have been
half a ton, And finally it was the straw that
broke the camel's back. We threw a couple of tiles
down and this the brake release and this trailer started
moving and it just went downhill down the street. It
was weaving back and forth the whole way down. It

(01:26:15):
dodged and missed every part car the whole way down
the street three hundred meters and finally came to a
stop at a rest home at the bottom of that
road where it had a hedge and trees, and fortunately
nothing at all happened. I wouldn't lose the load. We

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just went down there, the trees and the bushes they
were still intact, and we just drove off and said nothing.
But we were so lucky. But it just goes to show,
just goes to show, you know what, what you don't
think about and what can happen. So, yeah, we were,
We were really lucky. But it was a sight to
behold that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
We must have been. At the point you're watching it,
you're thinking thousands, hundreds of thousands, ten thousands of dollars
with a damage, and you know, the.

Speaker 14 (01:27:01):
Whole way down there could have just gone.

Speaker 21 (01:27:03):
My work mate, my workmate actually chased chased it for
hundred meters. Half a ton of tiles moving down the
hill quickly. You're not going to stop that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Yeah, every car and missed you just would have been like, oh,
thank God, and then the next one.

Speaker 14 (01:27:19):
Oh yeah, I mean it was one of those stories
you went back to the boss and it was actually
a relief to be able to tell them something bad
that happened with a good outcome.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yeah. I mean, I had some of that thing at
National Mini Storage where you know you have those trolleys,
and I took up to the rubbish to dump some
rubbish off, and then I picked the rubbish off the
trolley and then the trolley just went off down the
hill towards a bunch of cars, and it was incredible.
Exactly what you're doing. Was like I was standing there, going,
this is going to be a lot of damage. This

(01:27:52):
is going to mess up so many cars. But like you, Mike,
I just had the pure lark and it just went
down and down and down down, didn't even hit the cars,
and then just slammed into a concrete post at the bottom.
It was phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03):
It was with one of us are blessed many good Obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
You got thank someone for that one. Thanks Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
A couple of text here, guys. I moved into an
apartment on my own, bought a brand new couch, big
enough for my tallest mate to crash on. Got it delivered,
didn't fit the left or the stairs. I was six
floors up. Dude said the only way was he could
hire a crane and take it out in the window.
I thought that won't be cheap. I got a drill

(01:28:35):
and worked out how to dismantle it and rebuild it
in the living room. Always measure it first. Yeah right,
I mean that's a good outcome, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Mary, you had a problem
with the shed.

Speaker 22 (01:28:49):
Well, we didn't have a really problem. It was an
old garage and it's had a space cut out in
the front for you to drive your car, and had
no doors on us or anything like that. It's just
a shed. And my husband wanted to shift it, shift
it from one farm to another. The farms were about
mile apart, and we hummed hard over how to do it.

(01:29:13):
Then my brother in law came up with a bright idea.
He had a tractor that had a front end loader
on it and also a back tray. So he backed
his tractor into the garage, put the front of it
or lifted the front of it up with the front
end loader, lifted the back of it up with the

(01:29:33):
back tray and drove it up the road about six
miles like that, just with a garage sitting on the tractor.
And he said it was a He said it was
a bit awkward because all he could see was the
wee space out the front, out of the door at
the front. He couldn't see right or left.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
But it worked. He got it there, He got it there.

Speaker 22 (01:29:55):
He yes, And then we shifted farms again and it
was driven another twelve mile down the road to a
next farm like that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:05):
And so were you supportive of this transportation technique or
did you express your doubts?

Speaker 22 (01:30:13):
I traveled behind at a safe distance, wondering how much
I had to pick up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Well, thank you so much for your call, Mary, I
appreciate it. Gooday, guys Taylor for your information. Maximum height
for any vehicle or load on a public road. It's
four point one meters higher than that, and you need
a permit and we'll be given a and give a
designated route. Love your silence around, father in law. That's
from Raymond. Yeah, so clearly, so you were five meters.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
We were breaking the law.

Speaker 2 (01:30:42):
You're five meters with your couch. And not only that,
you lost one of the couches you lost twenty five
percent of the couches you were shifting.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
And it might have polluted the river as well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Oh eight hundred, it'll be a home to fish right now.
It's probably forming some kind of natural ecosystem down there.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Any better place? Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call love to hear your moving
horror stories. Nineteen nine Two's the text number. It's twenty
one past.

Speaker 1 (01:31:06):
Three Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight
hundred eighty eighty on used talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:31:16):
Twenty three past three.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
This story peaued my interest today. Drive us sort after
house falls off the truck in the Far North. It
was a bizarre incident involving a house falling off a
truck at blocked roads and a vanishing Trucky speculation of
the Far North is what the hell is going on
with this this jackknife truck? Why someone thought they could
move a truck when they clearly didn't have the skills Anyway,

(01:31:40):
we're talking about moving disasters, and this seems like there's
a entire nation of people that have failed to move
things successfully.

Speaker 3 (01:31:50):
We get in a truckload of Deeps, Coventry on nine
two nine. Two guys taking a toilet to dump places
in a big box with other rubbish which acted like
a sail and lifted off the trailer saw a white
cloud of porcelain in the rear view as it into
a million pieces on the white Cute Expressway. Lucky we

(01:32:11):
went back, although we didn't pick up as much of
the porcelain that we could have. Also, our proof of
address fell off the trailer as well as we managed
to grab that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
All right, Yeah, I mean, you know, if you're driving
down the expressway and a toilet comes flying at you, yeah,
you know, you question, you'd questioned your life decisions, wouldn't you?

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
You wouldn't go back though, would you know? Let's be honest, if.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
You know, you question what kind of message the universe
is trying to send you. That's what I'm trying to say. Dave, Dave,
welcome the show. You've got an incident you'd like to
share with us?

Speaker 16 (01:32:46):
Oh kla chips.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:32:48):
Look, I'm embarrassed to say. I was helping a colleague
move a bookcase. He's sort of Shouney. He was at
working out and this bookcase was rather special term because
his grandfather had built it out of magnificent pine timber. Well,
we put it on the back of the trailer one

(01:33:08):
or two other furniture items, and I was thinking, oh,
that's DestinE. They're all right, that's wedged, and that's not
going anywhere. How wrong was I And went over the
side and I looked in the rear vision mirror and
this wonderful bookcase just just mentaled into about a dozen pieces.
Clearly Grandad had used very good clue I was. I

(01:33:33):
was so emberssed and I look on his face with
his precious books bookcase the dismantled. Fortunately I was able
to find a joiner included all back together. It didn't
look quite the same, but he really appreciated having his
bookcase back.

Speaker 10 (01:33:51):
Ye.

Speaker 16 (01:33:51):
Not dramatic, but there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
That's a great story, Dave, Thank you very much. Guys.
The carrier company was delivering pellets of beer and sixteen
kegs to who are Pie Liquor? And when he turned up,
we said we're the key. He said he didn't pick
any up. Two days later a farmer phoned up and
said he had found sixteen kigs and the Brigham's creak.

(01:34:16):
They fell off his truck as he was driving up
the hill and decided not to tell anyone in case
he got the sack.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
Sixteen kigs don't just disappear without anyone finding them. No,
it's kind of like this house. This guy that's done
a running from his house. You don't think anyone's going
to investigate a house. People are going to look a
people are going to notice that sixteen kigs have not
been to love it, And people are going to notice
sixteen kigs in a river, right, Yeah, you got to
You got to decide what's a what you can actually

(01:34:45):
run away from? Yeah, you can't. You can't run away
from that problem. You gotta face it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:48):
A broken toilet, yep, you might be able to get
away with that. The house that's fallen off the truck,
don't scarper. Yeah, they're going to find the house a bookshelf.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
You might be able to get a joiner and put
it back together, But sixteen you're not going to get
away with sixteen gigs in the river.

Speaker 3 (01:35:03):
Keep those stories coming through on nine two nine too,
and love to hear from you as well. When oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty headlines with railing covenor.

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enzid Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean and getting some great
stories about moving gone wrong nineteen ninety twos the texts
and getting some great texts as well.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Many years ago, my father was returning alone piano and
had been told not to lay it down. He had
tied it down, but not well enough. He went around
the corner and two fell off and lay smashed on
the road. He scooped up the keyboard in handfuls. I've
had a piano get away with from me, have you?

Speaker 4 (01:36:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
On High Street in Dunedin. Yeah, actually semi on purpose
because I've been flatting with this dude for a while
and we moved three different houses and he made us
move a piano. Okay, full disclosure. He looked away and
we pushed the piano down a hill. Greg, you've got
a moving disaster you'd like to share it?

Speaker 9 (01:37:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:37:11):
Yet?

Speaker 12 (01:37:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
You there or might come back to Greg. I think
he's just throwing the old carphone there, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:37:20):
George, Yeah, Hi, three very quick ones.

Speaker 11 (01:37:25):
If I may.

Speaker 20 (01:37:25):
On the way to Wong I knew he one day
I was following a Coca Cola truck and trailer and
he lost the trailer. It tipped over, and there's coke
bottles everywhere. This with the seventies. Lots of people helped
them to pick them up.

Speaker 2 (01:37:37):
Wow and so and so. Enough of them didn't break, Oh,
that of.

Speaker 20 (01:37:41):
Them didn't break. But man, there was a mess on
the road. The second one, the second one was following
I just got married. I I was in the cold
in Kingswood. I was towing a caravan going up the
what's the the big hill before Auckland. Yeah, no, no, no,
Auckland itself city. No, No, the hill was before Auckland

(01:38:05):
when you're going on the motorway. Oh, the bombays at
the bomb base in the center lane. I was following
a truck and trailer unit full of coal and his
back tray opened and laid coal all the way up
the center lane of that on a Sunday afternoon, and
we had traffic on both sides because we were on

(01:38:26):
a Sunday afternoon, and we just had to drive up
the flame and coal. We had no choice. I got
no idea how they cleaned that one up, But the
whole lot empty out the back of his tray. So anyway,
the third one was I worked with a mate who
didn't turn up at work on Monday morning, and by
lunchtime we were getting a bit concerned. And while I

(01:38:46):
was working in Parts and North and he lived in
parure Tour and he had a big Kings with car,
a nice holding Kings with solid built brick. And he
turned up about three o'clock in the afternoon. He had
been coming to work and he came up the fire
to a track, so coming the other way was a
police car and they told him pull, so he pulled over,

(01:39:10):
and then he realized it was a house coming, so
he pulled over even more and went down into the ditch.
And it was on a corner where he pulled over.
The house came round the corner and dipped over towards
his car, came through the front wind screen, through the
whole car, and out in the back windscreen, and took
the top off his car while he lay just underneath

(01:39:33):
the steering wheel and his wife laid down in the
passenger seat, shaved.

Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
The whole roof, basically turned the car into a convention, came.

Speaker 20 (01:39:40):
Off the car as the house went through the car.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
Oh my goodness, and good god, you're talking.

Speaker 20 (01:39:47):
You're talking about people doing things. I'm talking about people
having things done to them.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
Yeah, thank you for that call, George.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Boy boy, that doesn't get any more scary.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
And I might have the wherewithal two duck down as
the house sheared off the top of my car.

Speaker 3 (01:40:01):
Yeah, and grab your wife and push you down.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
Yeah. My mum was taking porterally back after my sister's
twenty first, very windy, a toilet blew over and the
contents when everywhere. That's exactly what you don't want to
happen with the portaloo. No, that is the opposite of
what you want to happen with the portloo. Greg, are
you there? Good? Thank you? No, we can hear you yep.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Oh no, Murphy's law.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
No, we could hear you, and then we can't hear
you now Greg?

Speaker 14 (01:40:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Are you went and out of a black area?

Speaker 10 (01:40:31):
Are you?

Speaker 8 (01:40:32):
Greg?

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
In terms of reception, he's gone Berger.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
Um, that's gutting. I wanted to hear Greg's story.

Speaker 3 (01:40:37):
We're going to get Greg back. Don't worry about that ghetto. Bruce.

Speaker 23 (01:40:40):
Hi, Yeah, I'm just coming from underleading. One time. I
just passed his car in curving and the winner. As
you went past the age, he lost control with the
cavern and began and then he thought the car in
the caving was going to flip over onto the side
because were speeding in the car. She lost control and
just made the car in the cavern his wobble and

(01:41:02):
it was quite skewy. Quite scary situations room, I bet
it was. Then he thought the car and the cabin
was gonna flip over onto slight.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
How the exit and so did anything come out of
the caravan? It was all right, it stayed.

Speaker 23 (01:41:16):
You blew the back window out of the cave and
things started flying out of the back window and I
just made a mess heavywhere but the I meant to
gain control and just carried on up on the road
to Gary. Experience.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
It was absolutely yeah, Bruce, I'm glad you survived that one, mate,
Thank you very much. A quick couple of texts here.

Speaker 2 (01:41:39):
Boys, the footy team went to help a newly married mate.
Had to move just one second, so many texts coming through.
It's jumped down the boys. Sorry, I'll start that again.
Jumped miles down the screen. Boys. The footy team went
to help a newly married mate give a hand with
him moving. The boys showed up and ripped into it.
New wife was horrified when we lifted the mattress and

(01:42:01):
found handcuffs in each corner attached to the bed frame.
Still comes up at parties.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Handcuffs. Well, that's married for you, isn't it? Absolutely very adventurous.
We're not judging here adventurous in the early years. Eight
hundred eighty ten eighty. We want to hear your moving
disaster stories. It is twenty three to four back very surely.

Speaker 1 (01:42:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:42:36):
We're talking about moving disaster stories. On the back of
a driver who was carting the house. The house fell off.
They scarpered, but getting some great stories. On nine two
ninety two, driving tractors in England, we tipped a load
of hay all over the eighteen tipped to trailer load
of maize on the M one a one mm twenty
five round about.

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
I also drove a track to down the M twenty
five on rainy Saturday, night. That was a fun oe.
Cheers Hayes from Tope or I love that. That's given
me strong Clarkson's farmbes. That's why I read that one out.

Speaker 3 (01:43:09):
That is a good Marris.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
You've had a few wishoes. Moving sheep.

Speaker 13 (01:43:15):
Yeah, I was.

Speaker 16 (01:43:16):
Ulyank for about fifteen and we're moving sheep down the road,
getting ready for crushing.

Speaker 20 (01:43:20):
Open the gate, go down the pandock.

Speaker 12 (01:43:22):
You know, it's about k and half two ks down
the road doing my work.

Speaker 16 (01:43:25):
Stand out there.

Speaker 10 (01:43:26):
They know where to go.

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
Well, some concerns doesn't shut the gate so the sheep
wouldn't get out when they went straight past the wall
shed and halfway to town.

Speaker 16 (01:43:34):
Talk about five.

Speaker 12 (01:43:34):
Parmeters and get the wall under control and get them back.

Speaker 16 (01:43:38):
Seriously, a ten minute job.

Speaker 12 (01:43:39):
Talk about five hours and I don't know how we lost.

Speaker 7 (01:43:44):
The sort of shot up a few driveways.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
I was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
So those sheep could just other people's sheep.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
Now, no, well you never know.

Speaker 12 (01:43:53):
I think you know when you do it tally up.

Speaker 11 (01:43:55):
I think there was at to be twenty seven one
hundred and there we had twenty six fifties.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
I think we walk about good good, Yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 2 (01:44:05):
That's like Tyler's couch moving was he was seventy five
percent of the couches got there.

Speaker 9 (01:44:09):
You go, you're go.

Speaker 2 (01:44:10):
You gotta count the ones, not the losses.

Speaker 3 (01:44:11):
Ninety percent of the sheep's not too bad.

Speaker 7 (01:44:14):
Well that's you know, when you saw us want to
justify and everyone you know you're justifying it.

Speaker 16 (01:44:18):
And I just couldn't believe a concerns that it would stop.

Speaker 21 (01:44:21):
And shut the gate to the sheep, don't get out.

Speaker 20 (01:44:26):
And someone said to meet everyone said, oh you didn't
open it. Of course I have to go through it
to get down there.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
Great, Sorry Morris, thank you for you col Morris. Years
ago in London, Mussel Hill, I was following a Mussell hill.
I was following a small track. It must have been
a butcher's track. As it bounced through a pothole and
going up the hill, the rear door flew open and
half a dozen pig carcasses and heads fell out the
back and caused quite the commotion.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
I bet it did.

Speaker 2 (01:44:53):
Yeah, carnage look slowly coming through from problems that have
happened in England.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
Yeah, was it a bit more looseen? I mean it's
loose here in New Zealand, clearly, but maybe it's a
little bit more loose in the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Was on tour with the band once and parking in
a parking building and the tour manager was driving the thing,
the truck, and we were all on the back of
the van and it was full of gear. But then
the gear got unloaded and then he was driving out
and because it had risen up, just got wedged in
the down ramp. So the car was the rental van

(01:45:30):
was like scraped along the roof and wedge because it
was a different weight going out and it was going in.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
At least it was a rental I suppose, Yeah, one
eighty the number to call Greg. I think we've finally
got your back.

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
He got Greg, he's out of the cime ees and
I think we've got a good line now with you.

Speaker 16 (01:45:46):
Plus I'm also pulled over to the side of road.

Speaker 2 (01:45:48):
Now it's a beautiful clear line now, Greg.

Speaker 16 (01:45:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:45:52):
Good.

Speaker 16 (01:45:52):
So we used to live in a place and it
was our last day in the house. We were moving out.
I had a couple of mates and now we're helping
us move and I we used to have a two
story house and we'd look next door to a swimming
pool and the kids are in there. We always used
to think, they've got to be so nice to have
a swimming pool. And then this particular day, it was
a bit in June. My wife was up there and
she saw something floating in the pool, didn't think anything

(01:46:14):
of it, and then just one last weep of the
house was completely empty. I was waiting down with my
mates by the truck because it was ready to go,
and I heard this guttural scream. I raced back up
the drive and my wife was at the front door
door by that stage, and I said, go, go, go,
she said, and I leaped up on the fence. She said,
there's a kid in the pool, and I said, I

(01:46:36):
can't see it, but I jumped off and there there
was a little boy in the bottom of the pool,
obviously drowned by that stage. I jumped and fully clothed,
fished them out. We managed to revive them, and I
couldn't get over the fence, and I was freezing cold.
I had no more clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:46:55):
See you were nude.

Speaker 16 (01:46:57):
No no, no, I closed, but I had no more clothes.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
You keep to keep the just just to make clear.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
So you revived the boy and the boy was okay. Yeah,
he was yet goodness.

Speaker 16 (01:47:11):
Best my life. But the moving story, but the moving
story for it was just luck sheer because we were
moving out.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
You know, Chicken, you originally spotted and didn't think anything
of it because you was just something in the pool,
but then then saw.

Speaker 16 (01:47:26):
Again No, not really, well, I said, there's more to
the story. But because the woman next door used to
somebay's new to tease me and so we we he's
the reason. And then before that somebody used to fill
and put the guy before that had filled the pool
and this one had emptied it. So anyway, we were
moving out, and then just the kid, little kid didn't

(01:47:49):
like swimming in the pool, and Judy saw him in
the pool and didn't.

Speaker 15 (01:47:52):
Think any of us.

Speaker 16 (01:47:53):
And then one last check because and then saw a
dark shadow in the pool and.

Speaker 10 (01:48:00):
Chicken.

Speaker 16 (01:48:01):
So we got moved to where we were going, and
I had wet clothes and just freezing cold for about
four hours, but it didn't matter.

Speaker 20 (01:48:07):
Bet still want of.

Speaker 16 (01:48:08):
The be stars in my life.

Speaker 2 (01:48:09):
Yeah, I'm good on you man. To save someone's life
like that, that's just phenomenal. And you know, God, the
tragedy it would have been if you hadn't got there.

Speaker 3 (01:48:17):
Ye did you did you stay in contact with the
boy or the or the family?

Speaker 20 (01:48:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:48:22):
That the family completely changing life. They moved to Australia then.
But the woman used to work in a shop that
I go into a generics, come give me a hag
and think me and I see the father said to me,
is anything you can do, anything we can do for us?
And you're going to your first day trade. And I
tell everybody the safe story going to your first date trade. Yeah,
because if it doesn't always work, but you know he

(01:48:44):
is here, it's on some inkling of what you're doing.
Both for myself and my wife were first day trained,
and the two guys that were helping move first day
trained between the four of us to be managed to
have trained to be out of the cool and then
started giving good mouth to mouth put us freezing colbost
because I was freezing cold that day.

Speaker 2 (01:49:01):
Well, well, it's a couple of great bits of luck
that you you were were first date I mean a
that you that you jumped in and did that last
check and be that your first day chart trained. I
mean that is just absolutely incredible. One of that that
that kid growing up thinks about that moment surely, yeah,
because I mean that is you know, that doesn't there
that's approval story. Thanks so much for that, Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
Well, I'm glad we got Greg big for that one.
And whatever happened to the neighbor who was teasing you
a gree.

Speaker 16 (01:49:29):
Oh sorry she was, I got fair and then she
said that I was certainly moving in because what happened
and changed their whole life about moving to Australia from
got of mind, small wrestler, never heard, never heard of them.
So I say pleased that they that they appreciated it,
and it really wasn't It really wasn't anything because it

(01:49:51):
was just what happened. It was just a shock on
the day because as I said, we left the house,
I wasn't going back at the house. My wife was
just so it was a moving story.

Speaker 2 (01:50:03):
But mate, it's a moving story and a moving story.
So I think you for that, Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
I appreciate that far out there as incredible, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
Yeah. I mean I need to do a first aid,
of course, because I keep thinking, I keep thinking to myself,
I need to do one because if I came across something,
I don't really know what to do.

Speaker 3 (01:50:19):
Yea And.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Recently a woman started having this sort of choking fit
with when I was hanging out with my mate Joseph,
and he went over and dealt with the situation awesomely.
He took charge, like, did the old what do you
call it, the heimanch Yeah, it was sort of complicated,
helped her out, did that kind of stuff, and I
just ran around in a circle. I was trying to
pick up a phone, trying to do anything. That's kind
of like when we support the Coffee Years today, A

(01:50:42):
panicked yeh, But yeah, so that's I got to remember
to do that. I got to remember to do a
first aid course, because you would absolutely hate yourself if
you're in a situation where you could save someone and
you've seen it on the TV and you knew it
was so easy to do a first aid course and
you've just never done one.

Speaker 3 (01:50:57):
But can I say, with the coffee, I was pretty
impressed that you whacked off the shirt straight away. I
felt I was pretty useless. I was just chucking paper
tails at you, whereas you whipped that off and put
your T shirt on, So I thought, you know, you'd
be good in an emergency.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
In terms of weight of story, Gregg's saving the kid
from the pool and resuscitating them and me saving the
my costing memorial studio with my shirt pretty close.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
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to call. It is twelve to four.

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Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Sharky, you've got a trailer coming off a car.

Speaker 24 (01:51:48):
Yeah, back in the ninety early nineties, my brother, myself
and the mate we had just moved the car in
Auckland and we were taking the car trailer fact that
we'd moved it with. And we were on the Northwestern
Motorway between Peatter two and Henderson going west and I
looked in the rear vision mirror. We're in the middle

(01:52:09):
late and I could see this thing over taking us
and it was a car trailer and yeah, it had
come off the towball. And if we if we're not
the medium barrier.

Speaker 16 (01:52:21):
And I thought to myself, Oh no, that's going to
go spade over the barrier.

Speaker 24 (01:52:25):
But it's a sudden sharp left turn in front of
us and shot into the ditch and went through it
like that. The nose part of the tray went for
a fence and so we quickly pulled over, ran over
to try and pull it out of the fence. And
there was a lady, a real estate agent showing some
people that the trailer had splashed into.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
You know what that I mean at the time, that
is horrible to deal with and but good result though
you know so much worse could happen when your trailer
starts passing you on the road. It's generally the next
thing that's going to happen is not good.

Speaker 24 (01:53:02):
The lady that you should have seen the look on
the face of the people. It was just hilarious when
we manished the trailer out and take off with the
trailer and I have seen it up my phone number
down and.

Speaker 10 (01:53:13):
Giving it to it before.

Speaker 2 (01:53:16):
That is brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:53:17):
It's for sharing that shaky good visualization. There picture that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
That's happened in the movie where someone's going along and
then they you look over and you see the thing. Oh,
it's in the movie movie Hot Ride. Yeah, when he's
in the final jump and he's in the air and
then he looks over and he's not on his bike anymore.
It's great movie hot right if you haven't seen it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
A couple of ticks and then we might wrap up
with another phone call. Guys came over the hill from
Pooda Carnui, Dunedin to Port Charmers during a snowfall with
the trailer loaded up with household goods car again sliding
to the edge, which was a two hundred meter drop.
Then I managed to stop it, but the trailer jackknifed
and continued towards the edge. Was going to jump out

(01:53:57):
then refuse. The dog was in the back seats that
couldn't leave it. Their car stopped its slight a foot
before the edgart was pumping overtime.

Speaker 23 (01:54:06):
I bet.

Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
That again a lot going on in.

Speaker 2 (01:54:10):
That that also cinematic being dragged over the edge by
your trailer dog in the back, dog in the back Yeah, okay,
many years ago helping my dad's shift stopped at traffic lights.
Then when the lights went green, we took off, only
for mum's drawers to fall off the trailer in the
middle of intersection and the old man had to dart
around the car picking up mum's nickers.

Speaker 3 (01:54:32):
Barras scene for Mom and Dad.

Speaker 9 (01:54:33):
That one.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Oh good, all right, guys. My old man drove from
Pidoa to Hamilton with the trailer load of furniture. The
trailer was not attached to the ute, just a load
weight holding it. The trailer on the towball. Oh my god.
So you get there and you check it and you go,
oh my god, I've dodged a bullet here. I have
absolutely dodged a bullet here. Have we got enough time

(01:54:56):
for Shane?

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
Yeah, let's get Shane Okahe.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
Shane, We've got about sixty seconds to eat your story out.

Speaker 22 (01:55:02):
Yep.

Speaker 16 (01:55:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:55:03):
My family business for the second hand one. So I've
delivered lots of stuff from my upper heart stop to
my dad's shopping lower hut. It's on a big five
five entranced intersection with people walk across and.

Speaker 8 (01:55:18):
Carva mat Well. I picked up this big old fridge
a little bit. I realized that the lady in the
shop had polished it with silicon, and I laid this
fridge down on it side. I still had the back
of the van up. I went out the driveway, looked
steen the gap brought it and as I went out,
the fridge shot out the back and into the intersection.

Speaker 19 (01:55:42):
I had a huge audience.

Speaker 21 (01:55:45):
Wapped and me put this fridge.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
So no one but no one ran into it.

Speaker 12 (01:55:50):
No one ran into it.

Speaker 8 (01:55:51):
We had held up, held up the busses and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:55:55):
Well, I mean the ideal result is it doesn't go
flying out the back, but the good results and no
one runs into it, so it wasn't too bad. Hey,
thank you so much for sharing his story. Shane.

Speaker 3 (01:56:04):
That was a good hour. Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:56:06):
It's been and very endurable. I don't know why I
find that stuff funny.

Speaker 3 (01:56:08):
Oh, it's great man, the key we can do attitude
if you pull it off, it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
And apologies to the hundreds of people that text in
with really amusing stories to nine two nine two that
we didn't get to.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
Yeah, but we enjoyed reading each of them. We've got
a good laugh out of there. Thank you very much
for today. Really enjoyed all your phone calls and ticks.
We'll do it all again tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
Yeah, until tomorrow. Secure those loads.

Speaker 9 (01:56:36):
Turn my heart, don't reckon love be too my a
this time Westing you there alone.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
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