Full Show Podcast: 28 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello, goat New Seidlands. Welcome to Matt and Tyler Full
Show Podcasts number one, nine three four Thursday, the twentieth
of August and the Year of Our Lord twenty twenty five.
Very very fun show, Yeah, very very fun show. Their
chat we have with Eric Murray, a double Gold medalist,

(00:38):
about the Enhanced Games which is going to allow performance
enhancing drugs next year twenty twenty six in Las Vegas.
He had a very surprising take on the whole thing
that I did not expect.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hell of a take from him. Yeah, I thought, too.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Fantastic and is a great talker and he's thought about it,
and yeah, I just thought that was a really, really
interesting interview. So keep listening for that.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
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we love you.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah, and two examples of horrific sexism from Tyler that
will get pointed out by the listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
More to come. Give a taste We love you.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
The big stories, the leak issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons news.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Talk said, be very good afternoons.

Speaker 4 (01:26):
You're welcome into Thursday show six past one, So good
of your company is always good? A man depressing news
that are Tomuru super depressing. Den Heath Dean Heath casted
squares no more.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I'm a big fan of den Heath custom squares. Many
a time when I've been driving from christ to Dunedin,
I've stopped off and got a whole trade to take
down to give to family and frenzy. And before you
get there you'll look consumed about seven yourself. So Moorish
just delicious. The pastry on the bottom just the best
custed squares in the entire world. I mean they've gone

(02:00):
out of business. How can that happen? You know they
are a business out of Tomorrow and you hear about
them all the time. So I'm not sure what's happened.
I just found out that the name comes from Dennis
Night and his wife Hither. Yeah, so it was den Hither.
I was excited because they had the same I thought
it was something related to me because my last name's Heath.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Not I mean it sounds high brow, doesn't it, But
like you when when Andrew our producer said that was
their name.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
I thought, yeah, that makes sense, but no.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
More so that they are not an ownership of it now.
But they were selling there, if I'm not mistaken, they
were selling this stuff in Costco stores around the world.

Speaker 4 (02:39):
They did a deal with Costco, yeah, and tried to
spend quite heavily into the international market. And it was
perhaps after Dennis Dennison hither sold the company, but for
a lot of Kiwis out there. I mean when both
of us saw that news last night, absolute devastation and
then it was everywhere online.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, it was such an icon.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
When you go to Timers or somewhere in the South Island,
it was always to go get a weed.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Den Heath Custard Square.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Yeah, that is tragedy, absolutely tragedy. I wonder if there's
any where they can be saved, or someone will buy them,
or something will happen. I'll watch the space, but it
would be terrible for our culture as a country if
we lose Den Heath Custard Squiz.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, someone please save them. Right on to the show
after three o'clock moving should you do it yourself or
get someone? And so I'm about to move house and
I've always been in the mindset that I should do
it myself, get a truck and get a couple of
people to help me. But the argument is getting pretty
noisy that I should be hiring a moving company to

(03:39):
get it done.

Speaker 5 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
We're going to talk about this yesterday, but we ran
out of time, but the text machine was blowing up
with people's opinions on it. My immediate reaction was, Tyler
owen ke is how you're going to move house? But
apparently not people do. Yeah, as I said to you yesterday,
Tyler World moving and start.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
Mike Hoskin loves those guys. I think he's got shares
in the company.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Actually, I think Carrie Woodhams used them about ten times
to move houses.

Speaker 4 (04:03):
Right, Okay, well if they give me a good deal.
But that's going to be a good discussion after three.
I met the boss at an event recently. Is a
good man, fantastic human being, strong looking lad.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
He's off the tools these days.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, I mean he's not doing the moving tile. That's
not how it works.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
That okay, right, that is after three o'clock, looking forward
to that. After two o'clock, let's have a chat about
the enhanced game. So they've signed five athletes to compete
in an event in Las Vegas next mate. It's been
talked about for a long time. It's all go for
those who compete. They can win US half a million
dollars for the first prizes. So they portray themselves as
a league designed to push the limits of human ability

(04:40):
while using science to monitor athletes is on there, which, to.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Put it more succinctly, you're allowed to take pads, You're
allowed to take performance and nancing drugs, juice up so
that the idea is that you know, you see the
absolute peak pinnacle of human achievement enhanced by drugs. So
the Olympic Games, arguably but sometimes not, is just what
you can get there by training hard and eating well.

(05:06):
But how far could you go if you injecting yourself
with peds? See? But you know there's an eight hundred
thousand dollar lawsuit from them against sporting bodies trying to
ban people from taking part in these games in twenty
twenty six. But what do you think about it? Init
into it?

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Yeah again, that is after two o'clock. But right now,
let's have a chat about road rage. So story in
the Herald today a family on the Auckland Auckland's north shore.
They've been left terrified after being sent a letter that
does have some pretty psychotic overtones from an anonymous driver.
So the letter was in response to an alleged incident
while their eighteen year old child was crossing the Harbor Bridge.

(05:44):
It was not delivered by a postal service. The student's
father has now gone to the police and has outraged saying,
I quote, it's a very very scary thought that someone
possibly abused their power to threaten his family. So the
note itself, here's what it said. It said, ree seven
thirty am Friday, the fifteenth of August on ramp before
the Auckland Harbor Bridge. If you're going to drive like
an a hole and almost cause a crash with your

(06:05):
lane changes, make sure it's not to a person who
can find where you live.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Wow, that is threatening, So as you It's included the
wife's full name and address, even though it was her
eighteen year old daughter that was driving their car, and
that's been taken from car registration details. So I don't
think you can just do that with a Google search anymore,
can you. I think you have to have some other
kind of access to get in there. Yeah, is it
that kind of detail.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
I think there's a lot of third parties that can
get those details pretty pretty quickly. But it does seem
a massive breach of privacy if this individual has access
to those records. But quite psychotic behavior. That someone does
something a bit dicky in front of you on the
road on the Harbor Bridge, then you go to the
lengths to take down their license plate, find out where
they live, write a we threatening note, and then deliver

(06:48):
it to them.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, it's a step above bloody honking your horn or
waving your finger around, isn't it. So you've been angry
that long, so you've held on to the anger the
person that wrote this letter long enough to search up
the license and then deliver the letter and all the
potential legal troubles you could get for doing something.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Like that exactly.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
So that's holding on to anger for a very long time.
And the woman that was driving said she can't even
remember the incident, So it doesn't seem like it was
the biggest incident of all time either praying praying there
was no you know, he wasn't run off the road
or anything.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Can't remember the honking.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
That's interesting I my prejudice came to a four because
when I first read the letter, I thought it sounded
like a cyclist. I said, that sounds like a cyclist,
But then I found it was on the Auklandhubbybridge.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
Had those overtones, though it doesn't it sound like.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I could read the letter again.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
So it's see is ree seven thirty am, Friday, the
fifteenth of August.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
That's very cyclus ree ree.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well you should okay, don't be scared if they put
ree that is not that is not a scary per.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
I worry about those people. Yeah, yeah, that is some
kind of accountant or something.

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Then it goes on to say, if you're going to
drive like an a hole and almost cause a crash
with your lane changes, make sure it's not to a
person who can find where you live.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Wow, that is threatening. But did they use a hole
or were used centsering it for the news.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
To answering right?

Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, some pretty weak censoring as well, but they
spelt it out in its entirety.

Speaker 6 (08:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
So if you experienced anything like this, are you experiencing
road rage more or less? O eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty So my natural instinct is that person's mental
They've taken that long and held on to their anger
that long to go through those lengths of going around
to their house and leaving the message. This person disagrees

(08:32):
on nine two ninety two. You cut someone off, you
get what you deserve a note who cares? What if
that makes her a better driver? She now knows there
could be consequences for poor driving. I think the letter
makes sense. More people should do it. This idiot could
have killed him. Wow, Okay, so this spot. I didn't
expect the text her to say good work. Psychotic letters ender.

(08:52):
So this person thinks more people should be taking the
time to potentially illegally lock up someone's details and go
out of the house and leave a sort of Hollywood
style threatening letter.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
Vigilanteection. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Love to hear your thoughts on this. I
forgot about this, actually, but I was in a road
rage incident earlier this week, so I'll tell you a
little bit about that. I was the victim, but how
I reacted. I'm not too proud of myself how I reacted,
but I'm going to tell that story next. But love
to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
We live in Wellington and our son Lawa is from
Timoru and introduced us to Dean Heath. I'm a god.
They are delicious. We've had them for birthdays, Christmas or
any other excuse, sent straight from the shops, so delicious, gutted,
devastated that they're gone.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Absolutely right. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Quarter past one.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons used
talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
News Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
We are talking about road rage incidents on the back
of a pretty threatening letter than an Auckland family received
after allegedly cutting somebody off and swerving across lanes on
the Auckland Harbor Bridge.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
And there's a surprising amount of support out there for
the actions of leaving the letter. Great work. More of
these letters might make bad drivers pull their heads.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah, now I mentioned before.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
I forgot about it because I have been trying to
be a bit better on the road when it comes
to road rage. And I'm not blowing smoke up you
who are, but you know that we had some good
chats about the breathing exercises and don't take it to
heart and just think that other person might be going
through a bit of stuff. But I was driving to
the dog park and this woman in a car, and
I was doing the speed limit and everything okay, but

(10:36):
she just got right up my backside, and I kind
of tried to do the friendly Hey, can you just
give me a bit of space here, because you're right
there and you're pretty close to praying in the back
of me.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Obviously didn't say that to her in words.

Speaker 4 (10:46):
I just gave the wave and she stayed there. So
I just thought, bugger it, I'm going to slow right down.
So I went right down to firfteen k and that
made things worse. She really didn't like that. So I
keep saying, give me some space, give me some space,
and I'll do the right thing and go to the
proper speed limit.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
But I need you to get off me, and she
did not. She refused.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
So then we got up to a space where there
were two lanes, and this is where I really felt
I probably wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Sound Oscar Pistrian Mex the stepping I can.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Tell like that.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
So we got up to the two lane and then
she tried to gap it to the left of me,
and me, being the pity pity bugger that I was
at the time, I got in front of her.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
So then she got on the horn. There was a
whole bunch of people around me. Then she swirred off.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Clearly she was late to drop off the kid because
there was a there was a crache where she turned
off into and at that point I thought, what have
I done?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
What have I turned into?

Speaker 7 (11:35):
Here?

Speaker 3 (11:36):
That was such pity behavior from her, but also from me.

Speaker 2 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean, and what a usage of your time?
What a fantastic usage of your time and energy? Tyler
to just you know, you're slowing down to fifteen k?
I mean, do you really care if someone's tailigating you
that much? I mean, how fast were you going? Fifty k?

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah, fifty k?

Speaker 2 (11:54):
And how close was she behind you?

Speaker 3 (11:56):
Super close, like to the point where I thought she
was going to bring me?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
And so did you think that she was hastening you
for going too slow?

Speaker 8 (12:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Well she was in a rush obviously. Yeah, right, she
was in a rush. Because it sounds like something happening
with the kid a kid was out on the street
on its own. Yeah, and you were blocking her. She
was going to an emergency. Bad person, So am I
a fault there? The blame's purely on me. I look,
it sounds like she instigated it, but I don't think
you covered yourself in glory.

Speaker 4 (12:22):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is an
able to go, Charlene, Welcome to the show, Tayler.

Speaker 9 (12:27):
I totally agree with you. Men no emergency or not,
it's just not on men, wow on.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
In the time, I was very happy with myself, Charline.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
But Charlene's supporting you. You're supporting Tyler, aren't you.

Speaker 9 (12:43):
I am supporting him. Yes, the same thing has happened
to me. Jayah.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
And what did you do? Did you slow right down?

Speaker 9 (12:51):
I did the first time I did, you know? And
he was writing my I thought it was going to
be writing my back seat. He's in a big writing
you know, you know, really trying to intimidate me while
you know, I'm in something just a little bit small
of it, not as big. And it was all the
way into work, so you know. And I went and
told his work us about him. But I don't think

(13:11):
anything happened till a month later he did it again
behind me. Yeah, he did it again, and this time
there was a track in front of me, and I
didn't think he could see it because the truck wanted
to turn pretty quickly, and he nearly rear ended me.
So I was putting my horn, you know, don't rear
end me for goodness sakes. And so this time I

(13:31):
did the one. Oh I sent went to the bus
station and put in a complaint about it, and yeah,
I don't know what happened, no, but I know where
he works. He's right close to my work.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Would you consider writing a letter? And I know you
were you love letter like the one we're talking about today.

Speaker 9 (13:53):
Well, to be honest, I as she confronted them. I
walked up to him and he was all nice and
friendly because he didn't really know me because I'm only
a woman in a car. You know, he probably does
it to a lot of people. And then when I said, so,
why are you always up? And then he goes, I
don't want to talk to you. Go do your darndest,
you know what I mean. Yeah, So I asked a
policeman for advice. What would I do? And he said

(14:17):
next time, call one, one one or start five five fives.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
All right, don't slame on your brakes to try and
make a make a point of it, because.

Speaker 9 (14:27):
I didn't slam on my breaks. I did what Chila didn't.
Just slowed right down.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
The situation though, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
What about this kind of situation, Charlene, where you're about
to pull out in the lights. There's a slightly different
situation and you're pulling out in good time, but someone
honks the horn. This happens to me sometimes in Auckland,
and I'm pulling out in good time, you know, as
fast as I can, yeah, or maybe I can't go
round the corner. Sometimes the light goes green and you

(14:53):
can't get into the around the corner because there's a
bunch of cars and someone getting them gets on the horn.
It takes all my willpower not to just stay there
until it's until it's red, just about read and go
so they can't get through it.

Speaker 9 (15:07):
I'll probably do that, but you know what, these days,
you can't pull out quickly because you don't know who's
going to be running a red light.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, exactly, Well, I can.

Speaker 9 (15:16):
Give your own safety. Here's about that boost and I'm
going at you. I don't care. I wouldn't get angry
about that.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
You know.

Speaker 9 (15:22):
It's just I don't like towgates. It's not on. It's
intimidating you. That's really dangerous.

Speaker 4 (15:27):
Good on, Good luck out there, Charlotte, yeap, and thanks
for the defense. O E one hundred eighty teen eighty
is the number to call. Plenty of texts coming through
as well. It is twenty three past one.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
If I get tailgated, you will get my toe ball
where you don't want it. Back off. It's rude to tailgates.
Is this text?

Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Spot on beck The oh eight hundred eighteen eighty is
number of cour.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Where you support that you support running the toe ball
through the grill of the car if they tailgate me.
So you I haven't learned anything, have I?

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers. The mic asking.

Speaker 10 (16:00):
Breakfast Willis is the Minister for Economic growth. We all
agree red type yes, clean it up, but elder don't
want to bar it. Little don't want to bar of it.
Ask yourself, why.

Speaker 9 (16:07):
Christopher, we don't want to agree. We've got an opposition opposed.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
You forget that there is you're in charge, get on
with the red tape.

Speaker 11 (16:14):
I owe it to everyone to make sure we've taken
all those steps before I take any more dramatic mode.

Speaker 12 (16:20):
We're on the side of a shopper.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
We're all on the side of the shopper.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
But I just want more action. This is when your
messages are getting mixed.

Speaker 5 (16:28):
Is wrong.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Slash and burn the paper.

Speaker 10 (16:31):
You've got to admit Costco and not rolling out a
series of nationwide supermarkets. Back tomorrow at six am the
Mike Hosking Breakfast with Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Twenty six past one.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
We're talking about road rage incidents. A terrifying incident for
an Auckland family who received quite a threatening note after
an alleged situation on the Auckland Harbor Bridge. But can
you hear your Story's O one hundred and eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
This is what the note receiver has to do is
I don't think the police will do anything based on
what you read out. Make a officiating information request to
Medical Vehicle Registration Department, ask who accessed your details. It
is always recorded. Then make a complaint to the Privacy
Commission and ask for a financial solution. Well tend to
know you could do that, Tony, Welcome to Shay.

Speaker 13 (17:18):
A gentleman comment about what you're talking about before. I mean,
I regularly have people tailgating me, and if possible, I
just move over to the left and let them go,
because you know, you don't know who you're dealing with,
and there's a lot of just unbalanced people driving around
the streets, and you know, if you keep slowing down
and doing that sort of thing, or break checking and

(17:38):
contribute to road range. But that's not actually what I'm
wrong about. A lot of people don't realize. But you
can actually opt out of the motor vehicle registration details.
You just go to the LTSA and opt out with
your registration plate. And what that means is that the
only people who can access your information is law enforcement

(17:58):
like the police. I don't believe the auphaned counselor can
as well. It doesn't cost you anything, and that's a
solution to it.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, wouldn't you do that?

Speaker 4 (18:07):
Well, just on there, because I did that, I opted
out of that situation thinking because I do I say this, Yeah,
I say it, nobody likes them because I thought that
I thought Wilson's parking couldn't get me if I did that,
because I really hate Wilson's parking and they did me dirty,
and I said, I'm just going to opt out, so
these buggers can never get me. An At can't get me,
et cetera, et cetera. They can, they can. Yeah, at

(18:30):
Wilson's there's about there's a list. You can look it up.
The list is about three hundred third party organizations that
can access it.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Yeah, Wilson's off their list.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I can't stand where the cops and you know in
the council need to have to be on that list,
but third parties get out.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
Yeah, I'm with you.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (18:47):
Well, well like supermarkets can access you know, for people
would basically steal off the supermarkets. Petrol stations, no got
SCEs to it. It's quite easy to get you know.
If you're a license moon, a vehicle dealer, you've got
scess to it. So that's what I'm saying that as
far as tailgating goes, Yeah, I mean I get it

(19:08):
done me all the time. I do a lot of
driving and trucks, buses, that sort of thing, and I
just moved to the side and let them go because
at the end of the day.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
You don't know if that person could have been up
all night on met you know, they might be hallcinating.
You don't know anything about them, but you got to
You've got to be very careful. I think some people,
some people small people like Tyler forget no offense mate
forgets that. You know, there's some fights that you don't
want to have. Some people you just don't want to
be annoy.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
Like that Russell Crowe movie Unhinged. You know, it didn't
work out there. I got a road rage incident and
then a whole lot of murders. It wasn't a good
situation at all.

Speaker 13 (19:44):
I'll tell you something interesting though, just just to sum up.
You know, we do years ago a defensive driving to us,
and I think about it as a few If you
have made an accident, you actually feel quite good about
your driving for the rest of the day because you know,
it's quite interesting. I'm not suggesting that, you know, you
forget about people that do crazy things, but if you
can avoid an accident, your own psyche improves for the

(20:07):
rest of the day. Believe it, if you look at
it that way.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Yeah, yeah, you got to think about I mean, how
much effort you want to put into getting revenge on
someone that you don't know. You know, that's the thing.
So someone's wrong you Okay, well they're wrong. You then
just going on with your life. You know that that's
their problem. Yeah, taking on anger over it is in
a way letting them win. Another series you can watch

(20:31):
on road Rage Beef. If you seen that TV, that
Netflix showe Beef. I haven't no, it's good. Yeah, it's good. Yes,
it's good.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of
coll heaps of ticks coming through as well.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
We'll get to a few of those.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
I had a cop follow me almost daily for six months,
so this is someone that can access that information whether
you opt out or not. He used to come to
my house and hand deliver any infringement noss is at
five am cheapest. My kids called me one day, say
there was a cop wandering around the back guard looking
in the windows downstairs.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
I hope you dobbed them man done. That doesn't sound
right right. We've got the headlines.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Coming up with sound like New Zealand's finest.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
Oh, we've got the headlines coming up with me sneaks
then taking more of your calls full lines. If you
can't get through, keep trying.

Speaker 8 (21:14):
Us talks, there'd be headlines.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
News talks. There'd be just standing by for those headlines
with Max. But in the meantime we will get back
to this discussion about road rage incidents. So many texts
coming through on nine two ninety two. Hey, lads, don't
pick a fight over nothing. Yeah, I mean that's a
good point. So I need to look at the final
word in.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
That What does that mean? I'll look it up and
then I'll read that text out again. Giving someone else
the ability to make you angry is allowing them to
take up too much real estate in your mind. If
you truly want to live, you need to forgive in
order to live. They are not worth your time.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Deep and a lot of truth.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Man, Oh yeah, that's right. You know, if you get angry,
you're letting that person take you over. Yeah, you know,
you wouldn't let them kidnap your body, as the stoics
would say, But why do we let people that we
don't respect kidnap our minds?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
That smugness I felt was very fleeting. Yeah, And honestly,
I once she turned off into the crash, I felt
really terrible about myself.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
You're a bad person.

Speaker 6 (22:20):
What was I doing?

Speaker 3 (22:21):
What was I doing?

Speaker 8 (22:22):
All right?

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Speaker 4 (23:36):
Back to Matt and Tayler, thank you very much, Max,
and we are chatting about road rage. Some good texts
coming through A nine two nine to two. This one
s heres the road rage letter. I've got something similar
with someone who left a one star Google review. I
couldn't find them on my CCTV from the previous two weeks. Anyway,
turns out they post a lot on Google Maps as
a local guide and also share those images to their

(23:57):
Facebook page, which is public. To make it more interesting,
they've publicly shared their walk routes each day on Strava,
which seems to show their home address. Holy crap, what
stalker details I could find without specialist requests assigned for
everyone to set their Facebook profile to private. Don't share
revealing photos on Google Maps, and don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
Yeah that is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, good good advice. What worries me is if the
person who wrote that letter to this woman is listening
to your show. They will know where the person lives
and could escalate the problem even more. I can't see
how that would be a thing. So they already know
where the person lives. I think the fact that the
huge amount of focus has been put on their letter
would be if anything, would make them think twice about

(24:39):
doing anything at all, because the investigations onto who they are.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Ramping up ladies and general ramp up. I imagine they'll
be terrified right now.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
Matthew makes a great point. Best road rage movie ever
is called Jewel, A fuel tanker chasing a driver. That
is Steven Spielberg's first movie, Juel, and it is such
a great movie. Just making a note of that, if
he did Jaws or anything did Juel. It was made
for TV movie in the States, and it's terrifying.

Speaker 4 (25:03):
How yeah, that's my weekend sorted. Oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

Speaker 8 (25:07):
Paul.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
What's your take on this?

Speaker 15 (25:11):
Hi?

Speaker 16 (25:11):
How are you guys?

Speaker 3 (25:12):
We're very well, very good.

Speaker 17 (25:15):
I run a couple of I run three small delivery
trucks in Auckland, and yesterday I get a phone call
from a They're all sign written. I get a phone
call from a guy yesterday, absolutely torrent of abuse down
the phone at me. If this, if that, I'm going
to come and smack your head and I'm going to

(25:36):
break every bone in your body. Blah blah blah. Your
driver cut me off, et cetera, et cetera. Noise, Yeah,
full noise.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
What do you do about those?

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Well?

Speaker 17 (25:48):
I hang up on him, and an hour lady turns
up at work. Wow, turns up at the office at
my little yard, and it's absolutely going off.

Speaker 18 (26:02):
At me.

Speaker 17 (26:02):
Him and his partner.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Well, how man is partner? So the two people managed
to stay out in raged that long. That's impressive him
and it.

Speaker 17 (26:11):
Was him and his him and as him and his partner,
which I filmed, and I also recorded the conversation where
he said it was going to break every bone in
my body.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
And this and that, I mean, you went over the driver.

Speaker 17 (26:27):
No, I wasn't the driver. No, that particular driver's been
driving with me for twenty plus years now, a very
good driver, young lady. And we've got front and rear cameras, okay,
And yeah, he was actually in the fault. He came
right up behind our truck. Our truck was in the
slow lane and he's he's sitting there tooting and.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Okay, so what an absolute muppet and an absolute muppet
of a partner. So you're in the wrong, and you
hold onto your anger to the point where you ring
up and then you go and threaten as some of
that wasn't even driving at a business. So you take
that time out of your life and get recorded through
an your business. I mean the rage that you're holding
on too in that situation.

Speaker 17 (27:09):
Not case this guy, This guy was so wound up
when he when he turned up at work, I ended
up locking myself in the in the builder. I shut
the front door and locked it and he was it
is just still screaming at me through the glass.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, I mean, what what what's the rest of that
guy's life like and that guy's partner's life like? If that,
if there, if there's that much of a balling kid.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Hole, take his license off him.

Speaker 4 (27:32):
I mean, there needs to be some sort of psychometric
Did you take it any further.

Speaker 17 (27:35):
Paul, Yes, yes, yes, yes I did. I went up
to the police and gave him the recording of the
conversation and the video of him screaming through the window
at me, and and.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Do you in the video of the incident on the
road as well.

Speaker 8 (27:50):
Yep, ye, well.

Speaker 17 (27:51):
There was no incident. He came right behind our track
and and and we were in the slow lane and
and and I driver didn't pull over to let them through.
She just held her speed as you do. And yeah,
this this guy was was really.

Speaker 8 (28:05):
It sounds scary.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
It sounds mesthy to me. Do you think it was
involved at all? It just sounds so insane that.

Speaker 17 (28:11):
Oh I should hear the message that I've got recorded,
just the language and the deep anger at someone he
didn't know what he was going to do do to me.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Wow, unreal. I mean, there's a few teachs coming through here.
Tell Paul to put it on the on Facebook or
the internet. Did you think about doing that?

Speaker 17 (28:32):
No, I'm not going to do that. I've given it
to the police and they're going to deal with this.
And yeah, but it was pretty scary. I was really,
really scared. I've been doing this twenty plus years now.
I never had anything like that before. You know, you
have a couple of people ring up eyesn't the cap
blah blah blah, But that this guy was next level.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, Yeah, what a nutter further that I'm an ex
cop that attended some pretty horrific motor vehicle smashes over
my years, and the job just drive as if other
people near you are nutjobs, because some of them are nutjobs.
By the way, we need another one hundred and fifty cops,
half of whom should be assigned specifically to traffic enforcement
because we have a small number of police officers per population,

(29:13):
resulting and dealing with driving offending and police having to
deal with injury and non injury crashes. Driver's licensed testing
system is pathetic compared to Australia and the UK and
the Europe. Yeah, but I mean, you know, that's my
whole thing with the with the getting anger at someone.
You know, I had a friend I've told the story

(29:33):
in the show before who got into a rage incident
in Los Angeles and got a glock pulled on it.
Since then, he's never waved the bird at anyone. I
mean not even you know, there's not a lot of
guns in New Zealand, but there are some guns in
New Zealand. And if someone's being crazy on the road
and they're outrageously angry, then you don't know what they're

(29:55):
capable of it doesn't need to be a gun. I
ran around the back of the Head's not great fun.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
One hundred percent, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. It's eighteen to two. Back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Come a chat with the lads on eighty Matt Heathan
Taylor Adams afternoons used talk.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
Said be four un to two.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
We're talking about road rage incidents.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
This is a great text, good philosophy for life. Don't
let your feelings become your attitude. Not worth it at all.
Just get on with it. Yeah, and I mean one
of the greatest quotes of all times for meditations Marcus Ralius.
How much more harmful are the consequences of anger than
the circumstances that aroused them? In us? So with Paul
before right, that guy who wasn't actually.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Cut off.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
But thought he was and then made an angry phone call,
then took time out of his day to go round
to the yard to abuse and threaten, and that went
to the police. How much we're more harmful of the consequences,
just even in his time and anger and emotions and
energy wasted, and all his yelling and screaming over what
caused the incident.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, that's a half day plus of absolute nonsense.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Linda welcomed the show.

Speaker 12 (31:01):
Good day, how's it going good?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (31:04):
So I'm in Wellington now. I just was listening on
the ways back to work and I thought I just
ring and let you know. I'm in the motor vehicle industry,
have been for many years. They've tightened up a whole
lot on the privacy angle of getting information from MZTA.
And as a dealer, we can only get the information
if we're going to be trading a vehicle, if it's

(31:26):
been recalled for some reason.

Speaker 8 (31:28):
There's a whole lot of.

Speaker 11 (31:29):
Different things that you have to tick a certain box
to be able to get the information. So there is
a lot that that person can do to find out
actually who authorized or.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Got the information, to find out.

Speaker 11 (31:44):
Where that person lived. It's actually very dangerous because there's all.

Speaker 12 (31:48):
Sorts of weirdos out there.

Speaker 11 (31:49):
I mean I get people all the time giving the
ringing out. People I know who will say to me,
how I've got to read out this glicis thunder on
the road.

Speaker 12 (31:57):
Can you tell me you know who he is?

Speaker 11 (32:00):
And I just have to tell them I can't do
that because we'd lose our license if we do that.
So there's a lot of ramifications for breaking the rules.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
One of your.

Speaker 11 (32:10):
Previous callers mentioned about the opt out situation, that is
the best thing. If everyone did that, we'd have no problems.
And then what you need to have to get the information?
So you actually need someone's first name, last name, data
birth or their first name, last name and the driver's
license number.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
People how to people like Wilson's Parking and supermarkets get
those details off license plates then, because they won't have
your name and such, no.

Speaker 12 (32:39):
They just put them.

Speaker 11 (32:39):
We'll see what you do is you put your plate
number in YEP and it comes up and then you
you're asking for You have got different things that you
can do. You can check registrations, you can take licenses,
there's a whole range of things.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
You can sell a particular vehicle, but you need.

Speaker 11 (32:53):
To actually get all the information so you can actually
make the transaction. Often when you go to do that,
if someone's opted out, we can't even get it. We
actually have to input the driver's license number of the
person that we're doing the transaction for to get their information.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
And then at least a digital record that you have
got that information.

Speaker 11 (33:11):
And if I if I, for example, did something untoward
and got someone's information, and you know, like what's happened
with your person that's made a complaint, there's a record
of who, when, what time, and what reason they used
for giving that information out, So using that information.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
So just going back to that.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
So I'm clear that I opted out some time ago,
but Wilson still managed to track me down and find
out where I lived.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
So how would there's.

Speaker 11 (33:36):
Certain there's certain there's certain people who will have ability
to do that. Obviously the police, you know, certain different industries,
but they still you know, if that person that's done
that to get that person's information isn't a motor vehicle dealer,
he will be one of a selected few that is

(33:57):
allowed to access the database, so they can still be
held accountable.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
So not looking good for that. Let us ender which
is good news.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Yeah, hey guys, good topic. It's all very well and
good never getting angry. But to what extent do you
let yourself get walked all over? Where's your line in
the sand? I mean, I would lose a fight for
my principles if I had to. Yeah, but that's the thing.
So the idea is not to get angry and lose control.
If someone has wronged you, then you calmly and methodically
go about what you need to get the best result

(34:24):
for you. So when you the argument on that, you
know you know you shouldn't give circumstances the power to
arouse your anger. Is you may be wrong, right, and
you think the right thing to do is to get
this person that's done it censured in some way or
punished in some way. Then you methodically go through the
process of doing that in a calm fashion. Take a

(34:45):
few breaths, because generally speaking, if you go after someone angrily,
then you also become a problem. You also potentially make
things hard for yourself, potentially legally, but all different kinds
of things like this guy leaving the letter right. Yes,
so if you do it in a sensible way, you know,
as they say, anger's enemy is time the time, think

(35:09):
it through, Think what's the best result for you, and
do it dut ley yourself get walked over, But just
don't make it worse for you by doing these things
in a state of wild uncontrolled rage.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
Nicely said, breathing certainly helps. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It is ten to two,
but it will take a few more calls very shortly.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 8 (35:34):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams. Afternoons News TALKSB News
Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (35:40):
We're talking about road rage incidents and Auckland family had
a terrifying threatening letter put in their mailbox after.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
An alleged road rage incident. So keen to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I've been derailed by this text. How did cavemen cut
their toenails? It's off top it, but I was just
thinking about that. I think cave men didn't cut their toenails.
They just walked around with them, like you know, wild
animals don't have to cut their toenails. To your point,
you were in bare feet, so I think just you
didn't have to worry about the I think your toenails
would get you know, rubbed off nesh naturally. And it's

(36:09):
off topic though, yeah, but I need to get this
off my chest. I was driving on State High One
near Auckland when I attempted to merge into the left
lane a people move a van accelerated to block my move,
forcing me to slow down. The driver beaped at me,
and I responded in kind, I should not have done this.
Gestures were exchanged between us, I should not have done
this either. The other driver then pulled over briefly, appearing

(36:30):
to encourage me to do the same, possibly an attempt
to confront me. I chose not to engage and continue driving.
He also swore at me as I passed. From that
point on, he began tailgating me aggressively. While tailgating, the
driver held the steering wheel in such a way that
both middle fingers were raised well, clearly flicking me the bird.
I also saw him wind down the window and appear
to speak or gesture towards drivers in the right lane,

(36:52):
possibly drawing attention to me or the situation. I thought
he might calm down, but that didn't happen. The driver
then pulled out his phone began filming in me and
my vehicle and his phone while still in motion. He
was extremely angry. Definitely next time won't be beeping or
gesturing so as not to escalate anything, but very scary
to think that there are drivers out there on the

(37:13):
road that are that airgro enough to want to start
a confrontation in the middle of State Highway one.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Yeah, the nutcase theory. I mean, that's is at all,
doesn't it.

Speaker 13 (37:21):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Getting walked over is better than starting a fight with
a messed out driver with an illegal firearm in his
car from.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Lants, very very true, LUTs.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
So, I mean, what do you need to prove to
people like that? You know, you just need to get
on with your life and spend time with your family
and your friends. You don't need to you know, you
don't need to cross paths and spend any time with
those people.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Don't argue with a meth head, John, you had a
tailgating incident?

Speaker 5 (37:43):
Oh yeah, no, I've got a rock at night and day.
So I used to have a two seism and eleven
Ford Felcon.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
GCC nice.

Speaker 5 (37:56):
And had tinted windows, and anybody ever tailgated me?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
All right?

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Maybe it was because of the of the car. I'll
tell you what. This was a really fleshy tower or
head of all stick it up and him and I
had the beautiful meads on and stuff. But then I
drove my sister of little Hitchbi and I was getting tawgated.
Was an old greedy you know.

Speaker 8 (38:20):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
So these tarlergaters are cowards because they couldn't see you.
They like, I'm not going to tell this could be anyone.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Going to him.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
Whatever, That could be someone I don't want to mess with.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
You go tailgate is a spineless he might have a
bazooka in the.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
But I'll tell you one thing. Watch it for those
miss hea drivers make they are everywhere.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, nicely, said John.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Right, we're going to carry this on after two o'clock
because there's so many people who want to have a
chat about it. If you've recently been in a road
rage incident or had quite a scary one in recent years,
love to hear from you. Oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is a number to call.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
The stext says, fair leads to anger. Anger leads to hatred.
Hatred leads to suffering.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
Why not from Yoda? It's from Brody, one of the
great lines.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
All right, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Really keen to hear your stories on
this couple of texts to get us up to the news. Hey, guys,
just regarding your address and registration, people should absolutely use
the opt out option as others have said, it's protected
me when others have tried to find out where I've
lived after incidents, and it works a treat.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
This species says you sex as pegs. Might not be
a male that sent that letter, might be a menopausal woman.
Well okay, so sorry, we have assumed that it was
a man and not a menopausal woman.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
We apologize to that. Yet you've got us there.

Speaker 2 (39:47):
It's true. We fully just assumed. How sexist of you, Tyler?

Speaker 4 (39:50):
It may have been an elderly woman. One hundred percent right, oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call menopausal?
Is an elderly Tyler? Did I say elderly ageist?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
Putting words in my mouth?

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Talking with you all afternoon? It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams
afternoons us talks.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
It'd be good day to you.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Welcome back into the show. Seven pass too. So we're
going to carry on with the road rage stories.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Now, if you apologize to a menopausal woman, I am
olderly woman. How dare you? Elderly women are not menopausal?
Menopausal is between the ages of thirty five to fty nine,
occasionally a couple of years younger or older, but not elderly, Tyler,
how dare you so?

Speaker 5 (40:36):
Too?

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Was that from Irin?

Speaker 4 (40:38):
Was that from Irinri? I stepped out of my lane
to use a car analogy, just for a short moment,
and I apologized for that.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
I had no idea. But now you've informed me. We're
all better for it.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Cars don't have feet, Tyler. You can't step out of
your lane in the car, so it's not a car
an amaty? Can you apologize for that as well?

Speaker 3 (40:54):
I just can't wait today again? I right?

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Oh, one hundred and eighty to eighty is a number
of cour If you didn't see this story, it is
quite terrifying. What was terrifying for an Auckland family who
received quite a threatening letter in their letterbox? And of
course I had no return address on it for an
alleged road range incident. So the letter, I'll read it out.
It's a small letter. Read seven thirty am on Friday,
the fifteenth of August on ramp before Auckland Harbor Bridge.

(41:17):
If you're going to drive like an a hole and
almost cause a crash with your laying changes, make sure
it's not to a person who can find out where
you live.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Yeah, that bit the bit not to a person who
can find out where you live. You're trying to be
like a Hollywood movie threatening gangster type. Yeah, it mar
Fiosio's sounding. It's it's actually pathetic, psychotic. It's pathetic. You've
gone out of your way, You've taken all that time
in your life. Do you think that the interesting thing

(41:45):
is whether they followed the person home or where they
locked up the registration online and had access, Because if
they had, if they've looked up the number on the
registration on number one online, I understand it'd be quite
easy to find out who's done that.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Yeah, and hopefully it is the second option.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Hey guys looking loving the road rage chat? How do
I opt out? How do I do with the opt
out thingy? That's from PHLIPPA.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
Great question now from memory, I opt out at about
two years ago. So you do have to fill out
a form. You can go just to the Ministry of
Transport website. It's got it there. You just go Ministry
of Transport opt Out and they make you fill out
a form. You've got to prove a few bits and pieces,
but it's completely free and it was pretty easy to do.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
So just go straight to the website, it's there.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
What do you think about that? I one hundred and
eighty ten eighty. If someone is tailgatting you, it's because
they want to pass, pull aside, slow down a bit
and let them pass. Why would you not interpret this
behavior differently or act any differently. It's the self it's
selfish in my opinion, to decide the speed for everyone
behind you just because you are in front. Be a
considerate a driver and allow faster drivers to easily pass you.

(42:47):
But what if you're going the speed limit? Are you
expected to exceed the speed limit because the person behind
you wants to exceed the speed limit, and thus you
get a bloody ticket?

Speaker 6 (42:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Specially, I mean I thoroughly support speeding the limits, exceeding
the speed limit and the thirty k zones around Auckland
because that's insanity thirty k. But generally speaking, putting yourself
at a lot of risk risk exceeding the speed limon
a you. So if someone's up your ass, yeah, for
one of a better terms, rude. If someone's tailgating, tyler,

(43:21):
yes the correct term, That is the correct term, and
you're traveling fifty and a fifty ks on what are
you supposed to do exactly and even though I mean
it's probably actually to be fair, probably at the past
if you can, because as we've said, they could be
a method with a shawn Off shotgun.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
You don't know. Yeah, there's always that argument. Oh eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number two call.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
If being tailgated, Just flick your windscreen ripers on to
wash your windscreen. If it goes on the car behind you,
they might get the message to pull back.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
That is a great tip and that's exactly what I
should have done. I didn't think about that. Meghan, how
are you? How are you a Meghan?

Speaker 8 (43:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (43:56):
We had Megan, and I think we've lost Megan, which
is a bugger because she had a terrifying ordeal on
Sunday night.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
Megan, Megan. I watched the movie Megan too the other day.
It's quite terrifying. It's not as terrifying as the first one.
It's a good movie.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Me very funny as well, wasn't it.

Speaker 6 (44:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Directed by a Kiwi.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Yeah, fantastic rav I don't think Megan Megan still with us. No,
we'll put Megan on hold and come back to her
because you've got a good story to tell. But we'll
play some messages when we come back. We've got full boards.
If you can't get through, keep trying. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Your home of afternoon talk Mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Good afternoon to you. Thirteen past two.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
I've just heard some shocking news you have. You know
how angry I got when I got pinned for driving
at fifty kilometers now in a thirty kilometers in our
zone that is put in nearby psychopaths that are trying
to strangle the life out of our city.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
You're still a bit angry about him.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, I've got to one hundred and seventy dollar ticket
and thirty.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Something demerit points yep, thirty.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
So just a couple of weeks later, that is now
back up to a fifty kilometer in our zone.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
That hurts that. Really, it doesn't hurt me, but it
hurts you.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
So you know, I was getting absolutely pinged and slammed
for doing something that everyone was doing because everyone knew
it was absolutely stupid to lower the speed limit to
thirty k in that area and then they've finally admitted
it put it up. Just remember, when you're voting in
local body elections, just check who are the people that
thought it was a good idea to lower the lower
the speed limit in those areas to thirty k and

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steal those precious moments from your life up view because
they think that they know better than the rest of us.
They want to squeeze the life out of us. They
enjoy the power and the control.

Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, but you're over it now though, aren't you?

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Ah?

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Moved on yet?

Speaker 6 (45:43):
Moved on?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
You got to get that money back.

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Speaker 3 (46:11):
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Speaker 4 (46:13):
Oh one hundred and eighteen eighty some number to call
Joe you want to talk about her road rage incidents?

Speaker 15 (46:18):
Yes, And this.

Speaker 19 (46:21):
Happened back in nineteen sixty five sixty six to my
sister who was all of about twenty seven, and she
had a little oftin eight sitting at the traffic lights
and only hunger and waiting for it to go to green.
And so she starts to put it into first gear

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and the next thing there's this blast of a horn
from behind. So what does she do. She gets out,
walks around the car, inspects it couldn't see anything wrong.
So she goes back to the driver behind her and asks,
you know, you know, you two did the horn, and
what's wrong with my car? Don't see anything? It has
to be told that she wasn't getting off fast enough

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at the lights by this time. Of course that got
red again, so the driver behind had to wait. So
maybe she taught him a lesson. Wow, road rage was
even back then.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Yeah, road rage fifty nine years ago. I tell you
what is a beautiful car.

Speaker 19 (47:24):
Her very first car, and her father said that it
should keep her poor, and she promised him that when
it cost her more than ten shillings a week to
fill it up, she would get rid of that. Well,
she didn't because would.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Have been quite old in nineteen sixty five. That would
have been it would have been on the road for
twenty plus years of.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
That I think thirty seven year right, And how long did.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
She keep it for?

Speaker 6 (47:50):
Joe?

Speaker 20 (47:51):
Oh?

Speaker 19 (47:52):
It went round the whole of New Zealand on camping
trips with me her three or four times. You get
the whole of New Zealand three or four times.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
Wow, beautiful, it was great.

Speaker 19 (48:05):
She got caught in Dunedin and as we're playing up
and she was out in the WAPs somewhere and she
couldn't get up at the hell going first, So she
turned it around and put it into reverse because she
knew that was a lower ratio gear. She went back up.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Smart lady, your sister.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
If you want to see a stylist car, you look
at the Austin eight Torah, the convertible. It's an absolutely beautiful,
ye oldie vehicle.

Speaker 16 (48:34):
Garth, there are you going?

Speaker 2 (48:37):
I understand that you've driven in a dangerous manner and
you're going to want to apologize it.

Speaker 7 (48:43):
Well, yeah, if anybody deserves a bit of road roads
towards him, reverse road roads, it's me today.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
Tyler will know this area over there Mount.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
White Case, Yes, it's beautiful.

Speaker 7 (48:59):
Yeah, bloonet bars in there today and a little bit wet,
and I was driving a coach, quite a big one,
and I've got a gusta and the blue that hard
blew the front of my bus sideways. Oh wow, across
across the white line. I was full lock. Yeah was
man the hell it was? It was and there was

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two cars coming towards me.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
It's quite a narrow corner.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
So so, just for people who don't know the area,
cass Mount White is on the way to Arthur's Pass,
not not far past Castle.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Hill, right, Yeah, yeah, it was.

Speaker 7 (49:35):
It was down there. Luckily there was a little bit
of room for them to swerve it, but but I
had to stop and rearrange my underpens.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
So I would say.

Speaker 7 (49:45):
I would say that they I'm surprised they didn't turn around.

Speaker 5 (49:48):
Actually, very surprised.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Well, I'm going to say that that's obviously that's not
on you. That was the last thing you wanted to happen.

Speaker 7 (49:56):
No, No, it's definitely not something I wanted to happen.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Definitely not.

Speaker 7 (50:01):
And it was terri it was terrifying, absolutely terrifying.

Speaker 4 (50:04):
Oh it sounds like that's wind range of anything. Did
you have any people in a coach at the time.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
Guth No, that's that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
That was empty gun.

Speaker 21 (50:12):
I was just going over.

Speaker 7 (50:13):
I was almost at the destination. I was picking up
at White's Bridge, pricking up some people who have been
in the bush for a while and going back. It
was perfect with weight on, but those of them my
tires were screeching as if I was doing a Really,
I was left trying to get a hard lot left
trying to get back onto my side and when the
gust subsided, just flicked straight back across and likely these

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guys have already gone past.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
So yeah, and like I had an experience, experience being
like yourself behind the wheel, because it could have been
a lot worse.

Speaker 7 (50:44):
Oh, I could have been could have been man. Yeah,
and I've never seen one like that, and I've lived
in Canterbury for a wee while.

Speaker 8 (50:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
Sometimes you know a bus or a van and we'll
just to create the craziest stuff in the wind.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Yeah, it's it's you don't think it'll be. Yeah, apology
accepted that, Garth, thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
This businesses. You're not the police. There's nothing worse than
some monkey in the right lane holding up traffic doing
the speed limit in it says this texture. Yeah, we've
talked about this on the show before. What are your obligations?
Obviously you're only in the right lane if you're passing people,
and then you get out of the right lane, there's
an opportunity if there's other lanes, so you know, speeding whatever.

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If there's someone, if there's someone talgating you and you're
in the right lane and you've got the ability to
move left, then let them through.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
Do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
I mean, you know you as I says, you're not
the police. So if they want a speed that's really
up to them to a certain extent. But you don't
just enforce the law in the right lane.

Speaker 4 (51:48):
Not some road vigilante trying to slow everyone down. Yeah,
for your point, all right, it is twenty one past too,
but we're taking more of your calls. Oh eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
Matt Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 8 (52:05):
On News Talk said the very.

Speaker 4 (52:07):
Good afternoon Dwitt's twenty three past two, and we've been
talking about road rage, road rage, road rage incidents.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
Opt out of what siss tis you're talking about opting
out of what's the exact wording of it.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Let me just pull it up here.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
So it's revoke authorized access to my personal details on
the New Zealand Transport website.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
So it's harder for people to look up your number
plate and find your details and teach you go around
to your house and leave a threatening letter. As with
the story, New Zealand roads are a joke. Tailgates everywhere
and people go full aggo if you react, truthers, gangs
run the roads. Now, safest trekstick a patch in your
rear window, no one DearS cut you off crazy wind

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being a gangsty'll feel safer than driving politely.

Speaker 5 (52:48):
What of us?

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Have you got the wrong pitch on?

Speaker 6 (52:50):
Though?

Speaker 3 (52:50):
You've got to know you gotta know your gang geography.

Speaker 8 (52:53):
You might.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
You just study the gang turf and make sure you
swap the patch out for the right gang and the
right turf. Now you're talking road rage. On motorway a
door fell off truck in front of me. I was
so furious I followed him to part a Parlot. I
charged out of my car, bellowing at the driver. He said,
I'm sorry. I was instantly deflated. I mumbled okay and
left the rain.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
Yeah, it could work for the rain certainly takes the
wind out of your anger in that situation.

Speaker 2 (53:20):
Said sorry, said sorry, Brian, how.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
Are you this afternoon?

Speaker 21 (53:25):
Yeah, Tyler right one percent to mean new your actions.
And what worries me about your story is that there
was a kid in that car, and what ride of
driver's got to drive, you know, in a dangerous manner
with our people in the car who can't defend for themselves.
And what example is she's sending your kid with all
that road rage and anger management issues?

Speaker 4 (53:44):
Oh yeah, what you're saying, Brian. And look, I was
feeling pretty smug and petty when I was slowing down
to fifteen k. But after the fact, you know, I thought,
why do I care if this woman's having a bad
day or she's right up my my, my jacksy, I
should have just pulled over and let her pass. You know,
if she's gonna if she's gonna freak out and get
right up the jacksa, then what do I care?

Speaker 21 (54:05):
Yeah, but hopefully she reflected on directions. I don't think
she will just grabbing what you've described. But my, my,
other favorite technic I see has when people sit in
the right hand lane and just block the traffic. And
it's amazing how when you pass them and you sit
in front of them and slow the speed down, they
just absolutely hate it.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, I mean, so you're behind them and then.

Speaker 21 (54:25):
You go behind or you're behind them in that blocking
all the traffic, no traffic can get through, so you
go less past them and.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Get in front of them, and then you go past them,
and then you get in front of them and then
you slow down.

Speaker 21 (54:35):
Yeah, And it's amazing how they don't like being slowed down.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah, I think that is given given them the literal
You're on both sides of the argument near bright, you're
supporting anyway because you know, to quote the stoics again,
the best revenge is to not be like them. Yes,
So if it's so bad to tailgate, and it's so

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bad to bed drive, to drive badly that it makes
you angry, if you then get revenged by driving dangerously
and badly on that person, and then you're just like them,
and then you've lost any moral high ground. The best
thing to do with someone's driving badly and you go,
that's not how I drive a hole.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I'm not an a hole. Just go past and continue
on your day.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I see what you do. I don't respect it, and
I don't behave like that myself. There's this that's this
way to.

Speaker 3 (55:23):
Pay good philosophy Ross. What happened to you, mate?

Speaker 12 (55:29):
Well, I was in a company car park. Well I wasn't.
I drove into it and I thought, I used the
disabled park because I've got the card and you've.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
Got the card. Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry. I started judging
to early.

Speaker 22 (55:45):
Back and there was there was a company vehicle in
there with a signage on the on the vehicle. Anyway,
there was no problem. I just parked next to him
because there was clearly your room.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
But I thought, hang on, he might do this.

Speaker 12 (55:59):
On the streets as well, with a shortage of parks,
and so I just held my card up to the
window was he got into his vehicle and he probably
told me to get that ward, and I thought, oh,

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that's nice. Anyway, I hadn't lived here long at that point,
so anyway, that's that's.

Speaker 23 (56:26):
That was that.

Speaker 12 (56:27):
So I went into the company where I was where
I was going, and he was come out of there,
and I told them and I said she said, I said,
maybe I should ring possible, there's no I says, no problem.
I just part beside him. It was pretty of ruin.
But he might do that on the streets as well.
And I said, maybe I should call his boss company

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And she said, well his boss was sitting beside him awkward,
so his boss didn't here either, obviously, all.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
Right, maybe not so awkward.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
You can't be you can't be parking and the disabled.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
That's a mess of no no excuse, thank you.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
You know Steve Jobs, the.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
You know Elman Eppleman, yep, smart.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Eye fender here we st always do that. He does
this the whole thing. I read the book on Jobs,
and he did this whole thing about let's not have
parks that are allocated to people in terms of the
hierarchy in the company. And then he just scream in
and park his portion in the disabled spots beside the
doors of Ale smart Man and rich genius but also

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on ahole. Is probably the best way to described Steve Jobs. Chris,
welcome to show.

Speaker 18 (57:37):
Yes, good afternoon. I'm out sir Auckland. And it's quite
common for road radue. Someone will be going less than
the speed limits on the road, or indicate let's go right,
or pull out in front of you, or just doesn't
have any regard for your driving, and then you go

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to go ahead of them. It's like a race two
people on the road to keep always in front.

Speaker 8 (58:04):
And so.

Speaker 18 (58:07):
It's pretty much a big.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
Problem.

Speaker 18 (58:11):
And you know, I saw the sky one time and
he helped out with a baseball bat, and you know
it got a revenge on the driver that didn't go
barcel Us because everyone's in a hurry, is it Tom?

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Say that again? Sorry?

Speaker 18 (58:31):
Oh everybody is in a hurry.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah, yep.

Speaker 18 (58:35):
But I didn't want to be in front.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Yeah, I mean, I think so slightly less than it
used to be. When I was first driving, Chris, I'd
always been trying to get to the front because I
was an idiot, young driver, and I think that that
was kind of the way people thought. You were always
trying to get ahead of the car in front of you,
passing people go and go. But now I think we
get cruise control trains primarily when you're going between cities,

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don't you, Yeah, where everyone just locks themselves in at
one hundred and just cruises along, which is a much
better idea.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
It's far nicer to be number two.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
I'm thinking about those little green lights onto the motorway,
and you know you've got two cars.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
And they always people like to screen to get in front.
It's just so much more relaxing just to let them
go any number two, so much more relaxing.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Yeah, I mean, that's what you've got to decide when
you when you when you're going to fire up, whether
it's what you get out of the firing up, because
if it just ruins your day, then you've given, in
my opinion, too much power to the poor driver that's
annoyed you. You've given them more than they deserve by
letting them take over your mind and make you angry.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Yeah, nicely said. That was a great discussion. Thank you
to everybody who called and text on there. Coming up
after the headlines.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
We can all agree though that the guy that left
the note on that car that started this whole conversation.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Yepid, absolute techid, massive ahole.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
And as he was a woman, well yeah there's that
as well, and then he was the deckhaid anyway, exactly right.

Speaker 4 (59:55):
Coming up after the headlines, we want to have a
chat about the enhanced games. So if you haven't heard
about the enhanced Games. Effectively, they're going to allow their
athletes to take whatever drugs they want banned or not
and see how they go break some rec It's happening
and may in Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Do you think this is too far?

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Yeah, We're going to have been an Olympic gold multiple
Olympic gold winning ethlete to talk about this as well.

Speaker 6 (01:00:17):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Looking forward to chatting to Eric Murray very shortly. Right now,
though it is twenty nine to.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Three youth Talks, it'd be headlines with blue bubble taxis.

Speaker 14 (01:00:28):
It's no trouble with a blue bubble. The suspect in
a shooting in Minneapolis which has left two children dead,
reportedly had words written on his rifles, including the name
of the christ Church mosque. Gunman twenty three year old
Robin Westman, shot through church windows during morning mass, then
turned the gun on himself. Nz Post is hoping to

(01:00:48):
resume all of its United States operations within a matter
of weeks. It's suspended package services while waiting for new
tariffs to be finalized, but has since resumed commercial shipments
for business account holders. They expect to resume gift and
consumer sending to the US within a week. The latest
sea Kenz employment report shows a thirteen percent increase in

(01:01:10):
job ads for construction workers since last September. Ads in
information and communication technology are also rising steadily, and the
number of Kiwi couples taying the knot continues to drop.
Eighteen thousand marriages and civil unions took place last year,
and that's down four percent on twenty twenty three. The

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late yellow card issue breaking down the all Blacks discipline
problem read more at ends at Herald Premium. Back now
to Matt and Taylor.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Thank you very much, Max. Now let's have a chat
about the Enhanced Games. If you haven't heard about the
Enhanced Games. They portray themselves as a league. This is
what they say, designed to push the limits of human ability.
But what they mean is that they allow their athletes
to take whatever drugs they want. There are a few
drugs that they won't be allowed, but these are drugs
that are traditionally banned under the World Anti Doping Code.

(01:01:58):
So it's all go. Next May in Las Vegas, they've
already signed up five former athletes in the top prize
if you get first place in either track, swimming or
weightlift is half a million bucks US.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
So essentially peds are allowed. They're permitted, so performance enhancing drugs,
they have to be subscribed by a doctor. There's no
drug testing in the Games though, absolutely no drug testing
in the Games, but there is medical oversight to make
sure that people are healthy and their hearts aren't going
to explode.

Speaker 12 (01:02:29):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Arguably, I'm not sure if that you can take peds healthily.
Someone might be able to argue that point with me.
And there's a lot of money involved, a lot of
money involved. So I believe they've got swimming, sprints, hurdles,
and weightlifting all going ahead in twenty twenty six May
next year.

Speaker 4 (01:02:46):
Yeah, I I for one, I will absolutely watch this
and I am quietly excited about it. Whether you take
it with a grain of salt, their health and safety
elements that they'll have there for the drug taking athletes,
I mean, I don't know, we have to wait and see.
But the idea of allowing them to take the likes
of EPO, which are famously Lance Armstrong and is Cycling
Team used or some of those other elements to see

(01:03:08):
if they can break records and how fast can they go,
So it is compelling.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
So you're in the school of how can you know,
nature and technology combine to see how far the human
form can go?

Speaker 4 (01:03:22):
Definitely, because it is volunteeri. You know, they volunteer to
to compete in these games, and they are volunteering to
take these drugs. And to me, I actually think there
could be some benefit for humanity out of these games.
I might be a bit naive here, but this is
allowing a situation to showcase what can the human body
achieve with some of these some of these drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Yeah, that's what Aaron the Sosa, the guy that's running
at the Presidents and the Enhanced Games, claims that it's
kind of like what the Formula one claims that you know,
they're pushing to the limits and that can go over
into commercial vehicles. Yeah, and can make the world a
better place.

Speaker 9 (01:04:02):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
That's why they're going to the fifty to fifty hybrid model.
They think they can make advancements there. Whether whether it
ever gets grabbed onto by you know, the cars we drive,
who knows, But that's the argument, right, So we can
push humans to new levels by trying this, and then
maybe there's some advantages medically for everyday people.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, Well, how far more can we go?

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
I mean I remember Roger Banister who was the first
person to crack the four minute mile, and nobody thought
that was possible. Nobody thought any human being could crack
a four minute mile. Then he did it, then others
started to do it, and now look at it. There
are hundreds, if not thousands of people out there that
can crack a four minute mile because of advancements and training,
advancements in nutration.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
Yeah, I mean that's an interesting one that the training
and everything has changed. And you know, wealthier countries tend
to do better at Olympics because their coaching is better.
So there are enharts just by pumping money into the sport.
But what does it mean for the people that can
run sub form in it themselves? Does that to value

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their achievement If we're just seeing lots of people doing it,
we're pumped up on pads.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
It's a fair point.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
I mean, whether you could call it a world record,
I think that would be the part that creates proper
athletes who would never take a drug in their life
and do everything right, the training, the nutrition, devote their
life to trying to crack, for example, the sub four
minute mile and then you get some has been who
juices up and smashes it, absolutely smashes it, and maybe

(01:05:31):
under three minutes, who knows.

Speaker 8 (01:05:32):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
I talked to Murraydica, the sports broadcasting legend. You were there, Tyler.
I asked him in the lift we just happened to
be in the lift before with them, and I said,
Enhanced Games yay or nay, Murraydica, and he said yours please.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
No, he said hard no, hard no. It was quite
it was quite scary when he said that each.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
Yeah, hard no. So the reason why we're talking about
this today is because the Enhanced Games has filed an
eight hundred million dollar antitrust lawsuit in New York. The
defendants are World Aquatics, US Swimming and WADA, accused of
illegally pressuring athletes not to compete. So they are going
hard on the establishment, and the establishment's going you can't compete.

(01:06:11):
So this argibargie between those two things as you as
you would expect with something as intense as the enhancece Games.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
So yeah, I mean, what are the two things?

Speaker 18 (01:06:21):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Is it because because you say, like, it's another opportunity
for athletes that are for whatever reason haven't had the
top right, Yeah, but does that mean it's kind of
a situation where they take PIDs when they otherwise wouldn't
because they want to have another avenue for their career.
There's a lot of money involved, so they end up

(01:06:43):
taking drugs that harm them for money, you know, and
so you know that there's all this talk here about
the you know, the oversight, the medical oversight and stuff, but.

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
It could put them in a harmful situation. Absolutely ever
safe to just slam yourself with PIDs. Oh eight one
hundred eighty ten eighty love to hear your thoughts on this.
How do you feel about the enhanced Games where athletes
will be allowed to take certain drugs so they won't
be drug tests. Did you think it goes too far?

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Do you love it?

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Will you watch it when it starts in May in
Las Vegas? Or do you think it's just a bit sick?
We've gone too far? As it bad of the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
And when they say there's no drug testing, you aren't
allowed to be slamming cocaine and heroin, although I'm not
sure what hero heroin will to do for you.

Speaker 4 (01:07:25):
In one hundred meters it is nineteen to three oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a number to call.

Speaker 8 (01:07:33):
A fresh take on talkback.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
It's Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams afternoons, have your say on
eight hundred eighty ten eighty US talks.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
They'd be afternoon.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
It's seventeen to three and we're talking about the Enhanced Games.
It's effectively a new competition for athletes to compete and
they won't be drug tested, so they can take almost
what are any drunk drug they prefer and see how
fast they can go.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, and I said that, you know the amount of
money the country has to pump into its Olympic program
is in a way enhancing the athletes. You've got better nutrition,
better training techniques, more you know, data, definitely on stuff.
But as Jake points out correctly, Hay, Matt, can you
have r historically done very well at athletics and hardly

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a wealthy nation. There's a good point.

Speaker 4 (01:08:18):
Yeah, very good at track absolutely, yeah. I mean the
other element of this is the doping agencies have struggled
to keep up for a long time, and we hear
time and time again accidental doping. There was that tennis
player who was almost banned and he was certainly fine
for having some of the substance that as Messus was
using into his system. You get accusations still now on

(01:08:42):
the tour of France of athletes and cyclists using performance
enhancing drugs and difficult to prove. I mean Lance Armstrong
did it for years until he was eventually found out
and had to admit it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Yeah, so it's that final Finding someone in the competition
that wasn't drugging to hand the award to was difficult.
You had to go a long way down the track.
And that's kind of another thing as people think that
if you just took peds then you would performance and
hunting drugs, you would suddenly be an amazing athlete.

Speaker 8 (01:09:11):
Not so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
I mean, I'm not going to be able to suddenly
run faster than you's on bolt because I am taking pets.
You know, you'd have to have some natural ability as well.
Have you seen that documentary Icarus on Netflix?

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
I have not know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
So it's about a cyclist who decides to try and
take performance some drugs to see how far he can
push it for a documentary. You know, he's not cheating,
it's an amateur competitions, but he just wants to see
how far he can push it, and he finds that
he can't push it that far. He's disappointed with how
far he can push it. And it was around the
sort of old Lance Armstross thing. It's a great documentary.

(01:09:46):
It ends up with him helping to, you know, save
a Russian scientist from from the authorities over there and
smuggle him into the States.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
But it's a great thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Hey, Matt and Tyler, take a look at beautiful flow
jo winning at all costs. You lost your life for
the win. That's from Kristen. Yeah, so you know she
was the American track and field athletes. Yeah, that was.
But the thing what you'd say about that is in
defense of the Enhanced Games and Aaron Desoza the Enhanced

(01:10:20):
Games prison is he's saying that the PIDs would be
out in the open, so it wouldn't be dodgy, it
wouldn't be back room, it wouldn't be having to hide
it from the medical staff. It were all out in
the open so they could monitor you and make sure
that terrible things were happening to you. But right now,
when if you're trying to dope illegally in the Games,
that's back room that's much more dangerous.

Speaker 3 (01:10:44):
Arguably, Yeah, and I wonder in that situation.

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
We all remember the doping scandal with Valerie Adams and
the woman from Balarus Obstechuk was her name, who was
clearly dope in It was found out where that someone
like Obsterechuk, who was never going to compete with Valerie,
she knew it, that's why she had to dope, would
say I'm not going to compete in the Olympics. I'll
just go to this enhance game, dope up as much
as I like, and I might win five hundred thousand

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dollars a year. We maybe that will stop these idiots
actually competing in the Olympics.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Phillip says, I want to see a weed race first
to the snacks over a mile.

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
I'll watch that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Graham, welcome to the show.

Speaker 17 (01:11:19):
There you go to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
How are you your thoughts on the enhanced games?

Speaker 24 (01:11:23):
I like it.

Speaker 16 (01:11:24):
I like it, but for a different reason, and you're
almost touching on it. I think it might expose just
tre many athletes day using drugs. I mean, what if
no records are broken, what if nobody can reach the
levels of so called clean athletes?

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
That would be awkward, very awkward and.

Speaker 16 (01:11:38):
Maybe that's part of the lawss.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Yeah, because I was just going to say, I think
that that that might be possible because some of the
athletes that they've signed up, they have been somewhat successful.
They've competed in the World Games in their various sports
and in some of them have been Olympians, but they've
never been medallists. So perhaps that is You know, if
you if you're swimming, even if you're juiced up, will

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you ever get to a time like Michael Phelps?

Speaker 16 (01:12:04):
Probably not? And then then you've got to ask the question, right,
what are we watching in the first place? Anyway? It's
just entertainment treated their way.

Speaker 8 (01:12:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
Do you think it would take away from the Olympics
if it was running? Do you think both events could
could exist at the same time.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
I think the.

Speaker 16 (01:12:21):
Olympics heavily juice anyway. So I think it just exposed
the hypocrisy of everything and maybe you've got to tear
up to pieces and start again. I think it's a
good thing for that right as it's a catalystic change.

Speaker 6 (01:12:30):
Possibly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
What would you say if what sports do you follow? Graham?

Speaker 16 (01:12:34):
Oh, I'm an eclectic sports fan of everything at high level.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
So okay rugby, Yeah, sure, would you support you know,
a super super rugby competition?

Speaker 9 (01:12:45):
It was.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
That's my point.

Speaker 16 (01:12:48):
That's kind of the point I'm trying to make is
what makes you think they're not already? I mean you
just said the South African prop throwne out for them, right, Yeah,
there's a test and International Rugby Board did a test
and under twenties in South Africa and found almost everybody
was performing hunting drugs.

Speaker 5 (01:13:04):
You look that up.

Speaker 16 (01:13:04):
I mean that's well documented so you can look their
on up. So I mean my thought would be most
international athletes of the highest order are probably.

Speaker 5 (01:13:11):
Just up right what you exposure?

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Yeah, what are you? What are you thinking about this lawsuit?

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
So they're going after the World Doping Organization and some
other sports bodies who are trying to enforce rules that
any athlete that competes in the enhanced game will never
get to compete in so called natural competitions.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
What's your thoughts on that?

Speaker 16 (01:13:32):
Well, I think that's probably a way of trying to
slow it all down so it don't be exposed. Right,
If you're a you might come out of this looking
extremely incompetent. If the weightlifter can't lift more weight than
the Olympic champion who's supposed to be cloned. You've got
to ask the question, and then you go, what is
the sug testing all about anyway? And people are finding
ways to cheat. You can only treat drugs on knowing drugs, right,

(01:13:56):
So if you change the formula for a drug like
a PP, you just change the formulas slightly, the test
will show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Yeah, it's interesting when they down the track they make
drugs illegal backwards as they find them out. And then
so someone took something that got around the regulations and
then they still still ping them in the advance when
they find it because they keep hold of the blood samples.

Speaker 16 (01:14:16):
Yeah, but too late, because you've already got the money
on the accolades and you've moved on life an example.

Speaker 18 (01:14:22):
You know it's all there.

Speaker 16 (01:14:23):
It's moved on, doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
The first sign of that was that he was running
with the sunglasses on. Thanks for your cool, Graham. If
they are competing separate games from normal athletes, I don't
see anything wrong with it, says this Texter. Sounds like
a different version of the Biggest Loser, the Biggest Open.

(01:14:46):
I'm not convinced that you would get serious athletes and involved.
You know, it's kind of reminds me of you know,
there's the NFL and then there was the XFL and
the XFL which was you know, run by by w
w F go what's his name McMahan, and it was
no good because you know, the real absolute peak want

(01:15:09):
to want to perform in the absolute you know, the
biggest show, the one with the mana Yeah, the NFL, yeah, yeah,
because that's what they grow up dreaming. You know, kids
don't grow up dreaming of winning a Enhanced Games medal
doped up to the eyeballs, right, So you're only going
to get tier you know, several tier back athletes involved,

(01:15:30):
and you're not. I don't think you can be able
to dope them up enough to beat the really, really
good athletes. So it's and as you said before, Tyler,
what happens if they run the Enhanced Games then and
the people are running you know, twelve twelve second one
hundred meters.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Yeah, that would be real awkward. But could you see
a situation.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I think Usain Bolt's long retired or Michael Phelps doesn't
swimming anymore, but they might come a point those guys
don't need the money, granted, but you know those superstars
are old and they've run out of a bit of
cash and they get roped because money talks. You look
at the liv golf tournament, so they look at that
five hundred thousand dollars year wear so and they're blown
it all along gambling or a fantastic life after their
superstar status and say I'm coming back. I'm coming back

(01:16:12):
to give it a shot. Give a fifty year old
Ben Johnson another guy I'd love to see that. I
can't wait to see giant, furiously angry men and like
on bicycles suddenly turning progressively anger and anger, and it
ending up in boxing and wrestling.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I mean, roid rage is a real thing. Absolute Reid
rage is real.

Speaker 5 (01:16:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of core.

Speaker 4 (01:16:31):
How do you feel about the idea of drugged up
athletes competing?

Speaker 3 (01:16:35):
Really? Can you get your views? It is eight to three?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
What would this mean for Reagun? Would that improve her performance?

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
Nothing?

Speaker 6 (01:16:41):
Do that?

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
No, the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.
That'd be.

Speaker 4 (01:16:52):
Afternoon we're talking about the enhanced game. This is a
new competition starts in May and Las Vegas, and the
athletes can take whatever drug a drug they want within reason.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
They won't be drug tested.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
So it will be I think, watched by a lot
of people, but whether it's the right thing for sport
A one hundred eighteen eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Can't wait to see the final of the one hundred
meters on fentanyl now as someone that was on fentanyl
the other day after in a procedure to say one
thing's for sure, they would have smiles on their faces,
that'd be very happy, but they would not be moving
fast in my experience, and they would not remember the
race afterwards.

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
I'd still watch it. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Top Australian swimmer James Magnuson is doing it because if
he breaks fifty meters world record he will get one
million dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Yeah, there we go. Yeah, I mean yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
There's definitely a financial incentive to give.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
It a game.

Speaker 4 (01:17:41):
Yeah, and this one, guys, let's experiment in New Zealand
induce everyone up to make New Zealand an interesting place
for tourists to visit would help the GDP maybe, yeah,
well interesting point.

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
You could argue that would mess everyone up and make
it interesting as well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
I mean there is interesting and then there's terrifying.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
Yeah, absolutely right.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Coming up after the news, we are going to chat
to Eric Murray, an Olympic gold medalist of course, one
of our best rowa and superstar. Gonna have a chat
about his thoughts about the Enhanced Games. Very interesting, So
looking forward to having Eric Murray on the show. And
we're keen to hear from you. Oh, one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is number to call, nine two nine
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Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Very good afternoon, sire. It is six past three.

Speaker 4 (01:18:49):
So we have been talking about the Enhanced Games, an
event where athletes will not be drug tested. So a
great man to chat to on this is Eric Murray,
one of our sporting greats, a double Olympic gold medal
champion and an astonishing eight gold medals at the World Champs.
He centainly knows a hell of a lot about elite
sport and he joins us, now get a Eric team.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
How are we very good? Now you've got to the
very top of a clean sport. What's your gut reaction
to the idea of a drugged up enhanced games with
everyone on the pads?

Speaker 6 (01:19:18):
Well, it depends if you're taking the pits right and
going we're going to absolutely choice to the eyeballs and
like probably go on the dangerous side of the of
the enhancement, or are you going to push it to
a level which I guess just crosses the line from
what there's currently now if that makes any sense.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Yes, So they claim that there'll be medical oversight and
that you know, won't be as risky as the drug
taking that takes happens illegally in sports at the moment.
So you know, but I mean, are there are any
pads safe? I mean, you know, I mean, I don't
think it doesn't turn out that great for your heart
generally doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:19:57):
Well no, but you know, I guess under controlled supervision.
The reason that there's the reason that there's things in
place to stop I guess enhancement is because how far
can you push it? Yeah, and that's and that's that's
the line, because you know, you're not allowed to currently
with wider and stuff. You're not allowed to be on
drips or your IV lines after you've trained or anything

(01:20:19):
like that. Now, how much how much effect would that have?

Speaker 21 (01:20:22):
Right?

Speaker 6 (01:20:23):
You know, taking taking your red blood cells and you
know the blood doping and putting that back and obviously
had a great effect for old Lance Armstrong. So if
you did if you did that under supervision, how much
more does that add?

Speaker 9 (01:20:34):
You know?

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
But when you're getting into I'm going to be on
growth hormones and I'm going to put the steroids up
to the eyeballs and that sort of thing, there's obviously
going to be effect to your body. And that's the issue. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Now, rowing isn't one of the sports that's that's in
the twenty twenty six enhance Games. But do you think
enhance rowing's rowan would break records?

Speaker 6 (01:20:55):
Or is this?

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Is it more than that?

Speaker 6 (01:20:56):
Isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Timing and race management and being sync and sync with
your partner and all that kind of stuff more important.

Speaker 5 (01:21:01):
In a way.

Speaker 6 (01:21:02):
Oh absolutely. And the thing is that there's there's quite
a few sports where if you just take all of
that into the account, you know, and you're going say
weightlifting or sprinting that type of thing, you've got a
very limited aspect of the technical site, which means that, yeah,
you can pump it up and get really strong and
you know, or you could throw shot puts or jablin's

(01:21:23):
quite far that type of thing, but there's still an
element of technical involvement whereas you know, you get to
things like rowing or kayaking that type of thing, there's
a huge amount of technical component that comes with what
you're doing. And so yes, there will be a benefit
for you being super fatal, super strong, but if you
if you can't row, for shit.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
So it might be more about someone who is saying
behind behind you and was never going to beat you
and looks at it and goes, well, I'm not a
chance here, but I've got some skills, so then I'll
go to the enhanced games. If you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:22:00):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that is you know, I
still think that we're not you know, we're I do
want to cross a here, but I still think that
we're not quite getting to what I believe we could
with human performance currently. But of course, where do you
like the problem is you're going to draw a line.
You know, it's like, we can't we can't take steroids

(01:22:22):
to and taking steroids isn't horrifically bad if you're taking
them at a at a dosage, or at a level
or the type of steroid you're having for recovery, because
I guess what the common myth is that everybody thinks
you just take steroids and you get really big and massive.
But all the steroids is there to help you recover.
So you're taking it, you're recovering quicker. You get on
an IV line, you're recovering quicker. You take a corterzone

(01:22:44):
injection because you've done an injury. It helps the recovery quicker. Right,
So there's all of these things where yeah, you can
you can help recover the body quicker, which are currently
not allowed. But then as I've said, you know, there's
there's stepping the line even further and saying right, we're
on growth or moone, we're off anybody anabolic steroids which

(01:23:04):
you're going to make you really big and strong and
that type of thing. So really, you know, it's weird
as I'm drawing, and even with most athletes now, you know,
like you're pushing it to as much as you can
with the current regulations and guidelines. So it's like, you know,
you can still take caffeine currently. You know, if you
need if you need ventilin for your supposed sports induced asthma,

(01:23:25):
you're allowed it. You know, like if you need a
cortizone for an injury, you can get it under restricted circumstances.
So there's things that are currently there. But if you
just opened up that ballpark, it's like, okay, where would
we start jumping to already?

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
Yeah, it's interesting. I've go to made his far from
an athlete and he's on the royds for his exma,
But that's a totally different issue.

Speaker 4 (01:23:42):
It certainly is so Eric the guy that's funding this,
Aaron Desuza, he says, and I think he's genuine about this,
that he thinks that part of this will be scientific
discovery about finding that extra ed and there might be
some good that comes out of it. Do you buy
that or do you think this is just an exhibition
freak show if you will.

Speaker 6 (01:24:02):
No, I think there is because at the moment, you know,
every single sporting person in the world is using sports physiologist, right,
and so they're working with your human physiology to train
you in the in the right way, in the way
that you can using and like not to get like
super complicated here by these things called training stress scores,

(01:24:25):
you know, and so heart rate variability, So how you
wake up to how you can train today? You know,
how much training stress have you put on your body
this week? So they're already tracking that. But it's like,
what if we just gave it another fifteen percent, you know,
But how do you get that fifteen percent? Because the
only way for you to get that extra percentage is
by using outside influence, so to speak. So if we

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were just looking at in that respect, absolutely you could
see some you could see some performances that would really
be pushing up there with the likes of what was
happening back in the eighties with all the world records
that got scrapped in most sports, but under a controlled
under a controlled environment. And so yes, I do see
a benefit in terms of that science. But the problem

(01:25:07):
is it's like the saying it's in enhanced games, and like, fuck,
just go for gold. But of course, mate, you go
too hard, We're going to have you know, there's a
lot of problems that can happen. But if you can
do it under the controlled environment above the restrictions that
are currently in place, for sure, you're going to see
some performances. But and here's the butt, it's like, how

(01:25:29):
many of the current athletes are going to want to
do that versus what they're currently doing, because you're only
really going to get the athletes that are a either
not quite good enough currently to be there, all the
ones that are sort of retired and gone. You know what,
I'll just whip out a retirement for a couple of
years and just see what I can do.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
Another argument is that the organizers have is that they
will test it to the limit here, much like formula
one where you test the you know, the the text
of the limit. And then maybe these performance and own
drugs could be used for people that aren't trying to
you know, win win medals, but are actually just getting
through life and ab across life. Everyone could be performing

(01:26:10):
better if there's if there's a performance antsing drugs that
have been proven to be safe in the and the
hardest you know stress point of competition.

Speaker 6 (01:26:20):
Yeah, but like a lot of those are already there
that most like that. I think this is part of
the misconception is that there's there's so many I guess
drugs that are administered to people in everyday life because
they've got something, you know, like the you know, you've
got a chest infection, so you can get different drugs

(01:26:40):
for that. You know, you've got a blood infection, so
you can get different stuff. And a lot of the
masking agents that are banned in sport are things where
you do have an infection. You know, you get a
little bit of sepsis or something from an infected blister
or you know whatever. We're not allowed those as athletes
because it keeps that it keeps the like the steroid
or the antibiotics in your system and holding them there. So,

(01:27:03):
you know, there's all of those types of things which
are currently allowed in the general publics every day life
if they've got an ailment, but aren't allowed in sport. Right,
So this is where it's like, where are we just
going to go across the line or are we literally
just throwing the line out the window and being like,
go for gold, boys, you know, boys and girls, let's.

Speaker 8 (01:27:21):
Light it up.

Speaker 4 (01:27:22):
Yeah, we are talking to double Olympic gold medal champion
Eric Murray, Eric honesty call. Ifdsuza says we want to
bring rowing into the enhanced Games, put the call out.
Would you ever look at that and consider, hey, it's
half a million bucks and won't give it a crack.

Speaker 6 (01:27:38):
Mad, I'm forty three pounds. That's probably something you asked
like Emma Twig or someone who's you know, right around
probably the right age or the perfect age currently in
her peak. But no, not for me, like I've crossed
that level. But that's the other thing as well. You know,
there's in a lot of sports, and I'll give you

(01:28:00):
the stat that the average age of an Olympic gold
medalists like thirty, right, so you've almost got to be
around thirty years old somewhere, you know, mid twenties to
mid thirties and then decide to jump on this bandwagon.
And of course absolutely, if there's the problem, I shouldn't
say the problem. The thing is with most sports is
that the reason that people you know, step aside or

(01:28:22):
try and push the boundaries or cheat so to speak,
is because money is involved. You know, it's like that's
the reason, that's the reason that people are doing it,
is because they're like, look, if I win this, I
get bonus endorsements, I get I could get a sponsorship
from this and that type of thing, and so most
of it is driven by money and the reward that
you get from things.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Do you think that the Enhanced Games would what do
you think the Enhanced Games would mean for the Olympics,
because do you reckon they could both exist without affecting
each other?

Speaker 6 (01:28:52):
Well, I do, because what you know, you've got to
think what they've been trying to do with the Olympics
is make it a standard, right, so it's a standardized thing.
That's why you've got wider that's why you've got drug
free sport. You know, organizations in every country is to
create a standard so that the next person knows what
the standard is and competes for that standard. Can they
push that standard even further because otherwise, as you say,

(01:29:14):
this is what's going to happen, is that the standard
gets skewed because you've got enhancement, whether that's whether that's
a lot of enhancement or just a minor enhancement. That's
the difference. And so generally the reason that all of
this exists is so that you can have a standard
and a benchmark that people aspire to that they'll be like,
oh wow, that broke the Olympic record by point one

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of a second, you know, if you're not breaking it
by three or four, which will probably happen in this
sort of respect. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Absolutely, it's a fascinating idea and it's going to happen
next May. But Eric, thank you very much for coming
on and having a chat. No worries things, team go well,
we'll catch up again soon. That is double Olympic gold
medal champion Eric Murray. But we're going to carry this
on for a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Surprisingly open to the idea of the enhance Games.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Yeah absolutely. It is eighteen bar three.

Speaker 8 (01:30:02):
US talk zib it's twenty pars three, So.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
We're talking about the Enhanced Games where you're allowed to
take performance enhance drugs. It's coming in twenty twenty six.
But there's a massive lawsuit right now happening between the
Enhanced Games and World Aquatics. He was swimming and wader.
Now this text is interesting. She just popped up with
all you have to do. All you have to do
is watch WWF wrestling in the USA in the old

(01:30:26):
days to see results. Yeah, I mean, let's just think
about Ultimate Warrior.

Speaker 6 (01:30:31):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
But he died in his early fifties. Ravishing, grek Rude
died when he was forty. I believe you got mister
Perfect he died early forties. The British Bulldog I think
he was in his thirties. Chris Benois, so.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
You know a lot of them. Yeah, and they were
routed up, no doubt about it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Well, I mean Chris Benoire is a bit more of
a complex case.

Speaker 6 (01:30:54):
But yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
The argument that the Enhanced Games would put to that
is that they provide a whole lot of medical monitoring
with the performance enhancing drugs over the athletes, and so
it wouldn't be the sort of back room kind of
stuff that was happening with the WWF in the eighties
and the early nineties.

Speaker 6 (01:31:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:31:11):
Yeah, it's not, you know, a buffet of drugs that
they can just hue into. Yeah, there's certain I mean,
even though that sounds good to some people.

Speaker 2 (01:31:19):
If you ever wondered why the Rock seems to be
getting buffer and buffer as he gets older. It's a
good question. Yeah, I wonder why, I wonder how does
he do it?

Speaker 8 (01:31:25):
How does he do it?

Speaker 12 (01:31:26):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:31:27):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is twenty two pass three back very shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (01:31:42):
Afternoon tier twenty four past three, and we are talking
about the Enhanced Games. So these games that will take
place in May next year in Las Vegas, where athletes
will not be drug tested, so they can take performance
enhancing drugs.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
I guess if you're not rich or smarter, let's get
stronger or endurance levels, et cetera. But there's a drawback.
What happens to your body mind later in the same
happens in New Zealand when climbing tramping streams, little rivers
rise really fast. Very sad about the Texas outcome. Yeah, okay,
thank you very much for that pizza.

Speaker 23 (01:32:14):
You are from Kenya, Yes, I'm from Kenya. It's a
very interesting discussion you're having. I'm a bit surprised that
a lot of people don't seem to know or realize
that this already happens to some level in professional athletics.
It is just something that particularly in Kenya, Uganda and someone.
It is just very well known that this kind of

(01:32:35):
thing happens, especially the older athletes, the ones who are
professional and someone.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
It's fairly common.

Speaker 2 (01:32:42):
So you know you're talking about I mean, obviously Kenya's
got the most incredible record and long distance running. So
are you saying that it's known that some of these
superstars have been doping.

Speaker 23 (01:32:59):
I'm saying if you look at the amount of money
that you make by winning let's say one of those
big marathons in the West, Boston, London and Berlin, yea,
and you look at the standard of living in Kenya
and you'll look at winning a million dollars.

Speaker 5 (01:33:12):
Or something like that.

Speaker 23 (01:33:13):
The temptation is so massive that there's this group of
agents and athletes and representatives and so on. And what
they do is they come over there and they do
what they need to do. They go back to the
West and they'll win what they need to win. And
the thing is that WADA is supposed to have representatives
in places like Kenya, and it's three op and so
on to do the testing locally. But you'll notice and

(01:33:34):
you'll maybe you never thought about this, but you'll never
see a positive taste by Wada in Kenya itself. It's
always when these athletes go to the west of them
are caught up. There's a very good reason for that, okay.
And the reason is that very quickly, Kenya is known
for four things. One is safari, the other is athletics,

(01:33:55):
the third is rugby service and the fourth is corruption.
And so you have a very corrupt country which is
very poor, and yet the rewards of winning on the
world stage are massive. If you're not caught, Guess what's
gonna happen.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
They're going to do and they do it.

Speaker 23 (01:34:10):
And then the fifth, the other element is you have
a massive number of youngsters coming through the system who
are incredibly talented and they're putting a lot of pressure
on the senior athletes. Guess what the senior athletes are
going to do. They're going to try to keep up
with upcoming competition and that means doping.

Speaker 4 (01:34:26):
So with all this in mind, Peter, do you think
you'd support something like the Enhanced Games because it seems
like an avenue that, as you say, athletes within kin
or if they feel that pressure and they want to
provide for their family and get a good prize, you know,
and it is a good prize money, then this is
an option to open to them and they don't have
to be secret about it.

Speaker 23 (01:34:46):
From a moral perspective, no, that's just drug washing. It's
a bit like throwing a lot of money at something.
So I wouldn't support it. But I know it's going
to happen, and they know that illegally it is happening.
It's just that sometimes they look the other way. Sometimes
they've got big sponsors who don't want, you know, a
bad name for themselves. But the reality is it is
coming and there's very little we going to go about it.

Speaker 6 (01:35:05):
It's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
So would you say if you say there's not a
lot of money of flirting around, I mean, isn't it
a kind of a good option? Then that there is
the performance and arts games that people that need to
make money that might not be able to do it
in the straight way.

Speaker 3 (01:35:19):
Can you know.

Speaker 5 (01:35:22):
If you look at it that way?

Speaker 23 (01:35:23):
But remember sports is also about providing role models for
young people and getting them to understand that they can
achieve things by working hard, by applying themselves rather than
taking medical shortcuts and just injecting something and so on.
You don't really want that. Plus, a short while ago
you mentioned what used to happen in the WWF and
so on. If they do that in the adsarities, they
start dying and this kind of thing. You don't really

(01:35:45):
want this for young people. So it is a sad reality.
It's going to happen, but it's not something we should support.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
I think I might be wrong in this, Peter, But
were you into running yourself and your younger days?

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
I ran a lot. I played rugby and I ran.

Speaker 23 (01:36:00):
Yeah, I played rugby quite a lot, and I did
lots of running. And I can tell you that I
have seen people personally. I have send people that you
know that obviously we're going into a dopping count and
that's just the weak it was.

Speaker 3 (01:36:12):
It's accepted, Wow, not we need to have a chat
off here.

Speaker 23 (01:36:15):
Not Kajoki though, Yeah, it's it's it's it's there.

Speaker 5 (01:36:19):
It happens, one hundred percent happens Kajoki.

Speaker 2 (01:36:22):
He's not one of them, was he?

Speaker 6 (01:36:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
No, no, no, he's the greatest. Yeah, not joking, but
he's absolutely insane human being. It's incredible what he can do. Yeah, Yeah, fantastic. Hey,
thank you so much for those insights, Peter, incredible.

Speaker 12 (01:36:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:36:41):
I really appreciate your cool.

Speaker 4 (01:36:42):
Yeah, thanks for giving us a buzz, right, I think
that's where we'll leave it. What a great discussion, I think. Well,
it started off everybody was very excited about the enhanced games.
So as we carried on the conversation conversation, the question
started to emerge. I think it's fifty to fifty Now.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
I kind of like the idea of it, but it
just also feels a bit dirty to me. I can't
you know, I'm so indoctrinated with the idea that doping
is bad in sport, and you know that's something we
want to completely wash out a sport that I just can't.
I can't clean it.

Speaker 8 (01:37:13):
In my mind.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
It just seems that entance games just feel a little
bit but scummy. Yeah somebody dirty but dirty? Yeah but dirty.
But you know that might just be a bias that's
been been pushed into me over the years.

Speaker 4 (01:37:26):
Yeah, great discussion. Thank you to everyone who phoned and
text on that one. Right coming up after the headlines,
let's have a chat about whether it's actually worth it
to get some people in to help your move house.
I'm in that situation at the moment, I say I
should just do it myself. Save a bit of cash there.
But is that a stupid move? Is it too stressful?
You just get some bloken to sort out your couches.

Speaker 2 (01:37:45):
Get on the roids, mate, can't solf roided up for
the move?

Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
You could?

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
You could? You give yourself three weeks You could be
as big as the rock?

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
Yeah, got any?

Speaker 5 (01:37:53):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:37:54):
Okay, all right, let's least do it ohe hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:37:56):
And eighty little blood transfusion under the disk.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
Hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call moving,
getting movers in, or just doing it yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Love to your thoughts. It is bang on past three
youse talks.

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Speaker 3 (01:39:18):
Thank you very much. Max.

Speaker 4 (01:39:19):
Right, let's say I have a chat about an argument
that has erupted in my household at the moment. So
we're moving very soon. We're in Mount Wellington at the
moment and have found a new rental in the beautiful
Mount Albert. Very excited about moving into this beautiful we bungalow.
But when it comes to the moving side of things,
I've always been someone who likes to do it myself.
But a DIY move and I've got a tobar, get
a trailer, load the couches up and just ship them

(01:39:42):
across the city myself, stilly, isn't it massive?

Speaker 6 (01:39:45):
Story?

Speaker 3 (01:39:45):
Love saving money? If I can save money, I will
try and do it.

Speaker 4 (01:39:49):
But this has come to the point where my partner
may have love it a bit, but she's put a
foot down and she hardly ever does this when I
try and save money, and God knows why she's still
with me, but she says, this time, we're spending the
money to get professional movers because last time we did
it it was a massive amount of stress.

Speaker 18 (01:40:05):
And it was.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
But the reason it was stressful is because we were
moving from christ Church up to Auckland and I rented
the truck and then we had to get down to
the lock up and it was just me and Mave
loading all this stuff up. Then we had to get
on the ferry then drive all the way up and
I crashed into the neighbor's house when I was trying
to back the truck. So the landlord still doesn't know
about that a lot of the ways, so there was

(01:40:26):
a lot of stress there. But I've said to her,
you know, that's different That's a different situation, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
I'm just carting it across Auckland, So.

Speaker 2 (01:40:32):
You expect her to help you move? Yeah, so she's
saying I don't want to move. So you could do
some kind of hybrid operation where you do some of
the moving with the movers and she pays for the
movers side and you don't pay whatever. That would create
a neck. This is an interesting Texas come through here
that might be of interest to you. My husband does
all the moving when we move. This is because he's

(01:40:54):
a man's man. His manningness is a lot of why
I love him. My friends get moses each time. I
always think you're married to a lesser man than mine. Well,
he fixes things and he moves things because he's a
good strong man and not a whimp. So may yeah,
if she's like this, this woman that's texted in here,
she she may. You may agree with her and get

(01:41:16):
the movers, but just secret she's going, he.

Speaker 3 (01:41:18):
Can't do it. I'm with a win do it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
I'm with a wimp.

Speaker 3 (01:41:21):
I I don't think she's thinking that. But maybe other
way she.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
Might sit there with a cool glass of lemonade on
the porch and just what wats you with your glistening
muscles carrying the couch into it into your car and
be impressed.

Speaker 4 (01:41:35):
For grunting up the driveway having a little bit of
a hernie' sticking out. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's a
fair point that if if I just do it myself,
maybe I'll get some brandie points with Maye.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
But what does she do?

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
She has to do something. She can unpack the boxes
at the new place or oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number of cool if.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
You have the money just getting a moving company. I'm
currently moving right now, easy as will fully settle in
an hour, and so haven't lifted a single thing. Okay,
what about this though, because there's the other part of it.
You can you can go even further and you can
get companies to do the packing.

Speaker 3 (01:42:05):
So lazy, that is massively late. Have you done that before?
No your names man.

Speaker 2 (01:42:11):
No, no no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
I'm much to the chagrin of you know, partners in
my life. I'm a big fan of doing most of
the moving myself. So I've been collecting my mood, my food,
my food bead boxes for months for our move coming up.
I've got all the boxes. Really, I'm excited about backing
them up. I'm excited about it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:31):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:42:32):
I've actually done the cost breakdown of how much money
I could save on this. So I've calculated roughly it's
going to cost me three hundred bucks to hire a truck,
a bit of petrol involved. Maybe I've got a shout,
made some lunch if she's lucky to get a mover
looked it up. The cheapest I could find was about
two k, So I'm saving seventeen hundred there. I've calculated
five hours of time to get it all done. So
what's that per earlier rate? So seventeen hundred divided by five,

(01:42:55):
that's a pretty good hourly rate.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
That is some good savings right there.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Yeah, hopefully more than getting paid yet, The six says,
speaking of saving savior relationship and hire remover.

Speaker 4 (01:43:04):
Yeah, very good, right, the phones have led up, Pete
are working with the show eighteen.

Speaker 25 (01:43:09):
I refuse to move anyone now, I've just got him
selfish the a friend of mine, God bless her. The
only muscles she had was in her fingers, because you're
an apartment partner of both nineteen They asked us a
couple of weeks hours to help move the house. Hey,
we get around there on the day, they hadn't prepped anything.

Speaker 2 (01:43:32):
Oh my god, it was And this happened twice and
I was.

Speaker 20 (01:43:36):
Like, I got to the point that I'm not helping anymore,
and I just rubbed, just pay for it.

Speaker 18 (01:43:41):
Just gon't do it.

Speaker 25 (01:43:43):
Is with your mother. If it's raining, what are you
going to do? Adds time onto your your moving do
it yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:43:50):
I got too tight. I've got too ready to.

Speaker 18 (01:43:55):
Yeah, but you're tiny.

Speaker 20 (01:43:56):
It all down and may run loose and water comes
through the correct stopping and tight.

Speaker 6 (01:44:01):
As thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:44:07):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
It's turning up to help and they haven't even started packing.

Speaker 9 (01:44:12):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
That is disgusting. Behave You've asked some people to help
and you haven't even boxed it all up yet.

Speaker 3 (01:44:17):
Yeah, you are absolute skiout. That's the lowest of the lie.
There's no way to treat a friend.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
But I remember when I was at university, I was
constant on every weekend, I was moving people, you know,
right through my twenties. So it was like her moving
this weekend, do you help. I had this mate called Mike,
and he seemed to move every two weeks. I had
another one called Andrew had a piano and he seemed
to move every month. I think I moved that piano
about three or four times.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
That's hard Yaka Ellen, how are you mate?

Speaker 18 (01:44:44):
Good?

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
Dam's good?

Speaker 24 (01:44:46):
And I just thought a few years ago, quite a
few now. I asked a real estate agent in Norkland
and she put me in touch with a guy that
was a little two men band called Just Moving. But
when it came to a regional houseload, he used to
get a team of people that turned out to be
the Junior Warriors. From the day when Fisher and Parcel

(01:45:06):
had lumps of concrete on the bottom of the washing machines,
I can recall seeing.

Speaker 5 (01:45:10):
Mine being run up the random of the truck pretty
much everything up.

Speaker 24 (01:45:16):
We use them about three times in Auckland and from
go to Wavers you don't like about three three and
a half hours.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
Yeah right, that that's reasonable training, I imagine. Yeah, reasonable
streets training, you know, and multiple stresses on your muscles.
You're using different things. It's kind of the ultimate CrossFit,
isn't it? Being being a mover.

Speaker 24 (01:45:34):
Yeah, that's why I asked the real estate agent. I
just thought they must come across lots of good and
bad stories.

Speaker 4 (01:45:41):
Yeah, good for you as well, and that you get
a bit of entertainment at the same time watching the
junior Warriors go at it.

Speaker 6 (01:45:47):
You're not wrong.

Speaker 24 (01:45:48):
The funny thing was the house we were moving to.
They were way behind the eight ball. Instead of being
ready at two o'clock, it was more like four. I
think it cost me two trays of beer.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Yeah that's good value. Yeah, that's a good deal.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is a able
to call. Plenty of texts coming through on nineteen ninety
two as well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
The wife packs and unpacks the boxes, says Mike. This
is the way the husband moves the boxes and drives
the truck. That's how we do it. We've moved so
many times it's not funny. I agree, yep on, So
the wife packs and unpacks the boxes.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
Yeah, one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
What if the wife wants to do the carrying of
the fisher and piker with the concrete up the steps
to the bloody thing, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
If she drives the truck, she might not crash it.
So that's something true.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
You crash the truck.

Speaker 3 (01:46:34):
She can't do worse than meat it is nineteen to
four back in a month.

Speaker 1 (01:46:38):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 8 (01:46:43):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks that'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
It is sixteen to four.

Speaker 6 (01:46:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
The question is does the new pad have steers or
multi level? If not, do it yourself and it's multi
level with steps, then perhaps get movers. I used to
move furniture in winter for extra dollars for stairs.

Speaker 4 (01:46:58):
It's up an incline and it's quite an awkward entry point.
So I am trying to figure that out of my
head whether I've got to take it round.

Speaker 3 (01:47:04):
The back to try and get the beard.

Speaker 2 (01:47:06):
When you order a mover, yeah, like World Moving and
star Ridge, do you have to say that you've got stairs.
You have to say you've got You have to talk
about the entrance, because say my house, I'm moving out
of this three storied right. Yeah, So moving a massive
chest of drawers from the third story up is a

(01:47:26):
massive wound compared to taking it out of the bottom story.

Speaker 5 (01:47:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
You hope you pay a premium for that. If you
want to grand piano up there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:32):
You should. You should pay more for the you know,
once again sexist guys is the sext I love the show,
but that's twice. First with the menopause elderly woman, that
was you, Tyler.

Speaker 6 (01:47:44):
It was it was me.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
I apologize for that again.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Now men are better at carrying heavy things. Women can
carry as much as men. Social conditioning much boys? Can
you carry more than mave.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
At the moment? I cannot? So that you go, Carl,
how are you mate?

Speaker 5 (01:48:01):
Hey?

Speaker 15 (01:48:02):
Les?

Speaker 6 (01:48:02):
How are we doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Thanks buddy?

Speaker 6 (01:48:06):
Hey.

Speaker 15 (01:48:06):
So one of the one of the boys at work
moving and so me and another guy decided to, you know,
we'll take our ut over and help him out. And
we rock up to their house. It's a it's a
beautiful big house. So there's about five of them family
living in it. And we started loading up our youths
from what was already in the lounge. I need to

(01:48:26):
find out the rest of the house had then been packed.

Speaker 4 (01:48:29):
Yeah, I mean that's the curse of having a you
to a trailer. Right, you're one of those mates that
everyone knows. I'll just give old Cole he's got his you.
He will help out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
Never never never own a flatbeg truck either. That's another thing.
Wouldn't never let it out knowing that you do.

Speaker 4 (01:48:43):
So what did what did you say, col when you
got around there and it was just a complete disaster
or nothing of being packed up?

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
Did you just turn around a bug off?

Speaker 15 (01:48:51):
We we wanted to make but we thought, you know what,
let's let's just help them get it done. And so
it took two days. But the cheap, you know, we
try to drop little hant set. It'd be nice to
go and get a couple of beers, thinking some fish
and chips, you know, for helping you out, and not
a scooby. We would not the beer or any perssoner.

Speaker 2 (01:49:10):
So are these people still in your life, Cole No
No with their company?

Speaker 4 (01:49:16):
Yeah yeah, yeah, absolute absolute takers, absolute scom Yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Absolutely should be prison synesis for.

Speaker 3 (01:49:23):
Their kind of that's a massive tasering right there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
Someone should introduce a members bill. I planned a house
move but canceled the friends who were going to help
because I had to work because of a snowstorm. The
mates turned up anyway and got moved without me lifting
a thing. So you were great mates. Yeah, so you canceled,
but they still turned up and did the job.

Speaker 4 (01:49:44):
For you out of the mate. Yeah, that makes you
want a round, Joe. You had a great experience moving
last last time you did it?

Speaker 20 (01:49:52):
Yes, yes, So me and my wife bought a house
in twenty twenty three, moved actually so we've actually just
been in the place now two years now weeks ago
with the anniversary. But we started packing like the month
before smart and then come come the day that we
got the heat keys for the house. I had the

(01:50:14):
day off. I did a couple of trips in the
in the car, delivered the important stuff, you know, the
bath ridge, the booze, you know, well sort of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:50:22):
Yea, yeah, the important stuff.

Speaker 20 (01:50:25):
Then the next morning picked up the truck that we
rented with my mate who was driving it, got back
to the house full your load at the truck when
delivered it back, left a few people at the new
house and they started moving beds around and all that
sort of thing. We went back to the second load,

(01:50:46):
which was the last load, and by the time we
got back, all the bedrooms were set up, the kitchen
was ninety percent set up. You know, it's okay. The
garage was packed full of boxes still, but we were
sitting down drinking peers by three o'clock in.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
The afternoon, This is like military precision.

Speaker 20 (01:51:08):
It was the best move I've had in years.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
See that it is prillivant. The starting, the starting to
pack your boxes a long time out is the key
because then you know you need put an hour in
a night for a month or you know, even two
weeks and you're there.

Speaker 20 (01:51:24):
We're going it every weekend where we just basically went
through everything. We went, what do we need for the
next month, Well, we can do away with all this stuff.

Speaker 18 (01:51:32):
And it was packed.

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
Yeah, I tell you what did you did?

Speaker 2 (01:51:34):
You get a skip in my last time I moved houses.
You really decide what you want to move And I
filled an entire skip with rubbish that we bought that
we didn't need. And I was absolutely disgusted myself the
absolute crap we had.

Speaker 20 (01:51:49):
Well, no, we because we actually moved from a single
level house, three bedroom, nice big garage, nice big yards
to a now a three bedroom multi level house. There's
got a very little section on it and all that,
so we actually went, well, we're not going to need
all these you know, outdoor furniture and all that time.
I was selling up like a month before and on

(01:52:10):
fake stook just to get rid of it.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
You're beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:52:13):
When are you moving, tyleru at about a month actually,
so made can start tonight.

Speaker 20 (01:52:18):
You listen to Joe, just get your big boxes, start
packing everything you don't need, label it up, and you
label stuff like fragile. And we have one box that
was named Cuddy Stabby things.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Yes, smart, Yeah, that's that's another good part of it, Joe,
that you've got to do is the accurate labeling of
the boxes for the unpacking, because the unpackings are punished
as well.

Speaker 20 (01:52:44):
Yeah, exactly, like bedroom one, two and three. And the
first thing you do is when you walk into the place,
get a little posted notes. Put them on the door
of bedroom one, bedroom two, bedroom three. Yes, so that
everyone that's moving a box can look at it and
take it straight there.

Speaker 2 (01:52:59):
We need to get you into the upper echelons of
military with that kind of precision that you're running.

Speaker 18 (01:53:04):
Ja.

Speaker 20 (01:53:06):
Yeah, my brother moved. My brother moved the month before
we did, and they were moving from two houses into
one big, massive house. And they hired a truck and
a couple of guys. Well, they told them when they
closed it, Yes, you've got to move this stuff up

(01:53:27):
the stairs. Got to take it to the bedrooms and
all that. They turned up on site and they just
unloaded everything into the garage quickly got my brother's father
in law to pay for it, and then they scarf it.
Then my brother's mother in law turned up and went, well,
why is the stuff all in the garage. It's all
supposed to be in the bedrooms. So then they did

(01:53:49):
the emergency call out and we were there until like
eleven o'clock at night, lagging this furniture up three flights
of stairs just to get them settled in.

Speaker 3 (01:54:00):
Yeah, you learned from that one.

Speaker 8 (01:54:02):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:54:03):
There is a mind trick that you can do when
you're helping someone moves. You just think about it as
a workout.

Speaker 6 (01:54:09):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
So I've done this. I've been forced to help people move,
and I go, okay, this is this is making me
stronger and my squats and I'm not using my back
like a crane.

Speaker 3 (01:54:17):
This is my gym show.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
I'm getting buff doing this, I'm getting leg day, going
on cardio, the whole thing. This is better than the gym.
This is the ultimate CrossFit, and then you can feel
like you're getting something more than just some fish and
chips and beers. Speaking voices of this textas says Matt, Mate,
Tyler's been dropping enough hunts and still waiting for your
offer on air to give him on the day the move.

Speaker 3 (01:54:37):
Yeah, so what do you say, mate? What's your ELI
rate on this shows? It's going to be cardio? You know,
just think of it as as a gym workout.

Speaker 14 (01:54:48):
That's all it is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
How many beers? How many fish and chips?

Speaker 8 (01:54:52):
I want?

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
I want three treats. I want a hot dog. I
want a bit of fish and something nice like snapper. Okay,
snapper not just yep? And I want so hot dog.

Speaker 3 (01:55:02):
It's only five hours of your time. You want to snapper?

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
An onion sausage, any fish bites?

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
No to get out with that?

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
Maybe your pineapple ring?

Speaker 3 (01:55:10):
Oh, we can do a pin, some scollops on special.
I'll get you some scollops, all right, done? We put
that on there.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
And yeah, and just some something something for Tracy as well. Yeah,
something nice, nice and crafty.

Speaker 3 (01:55:22):
Yeah, okay, nice and crafty and a chocolate donut. Right done?
Happy days back very shortly. It is seven minutes to four.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
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everything in between.

Speaker 8 (01:55:36):
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Speaker 3 (01:55:41):
It is five to four.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
I had to move house after have a sickted me challenging,
says this textre. Another one says Bunnings have tape that
has names on it for bedroom, lounge, bathroom, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:55:51):
That's brilliant, game changer, game change.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
All right, thank you so much for listening to the show. Everyone.
We've had a great chat today. I've really enjoyed today.
Very fun show. Lots of fantastic calls and text thanks
for those. The full Mat and Tile Afternoons podcast will
be out in an hour, So if you must have
chats on road rage and threatening note left on an
Auckland car window and tips on moving houses, then follow
the mat in Tyler Afternoons podcast where you get your pods.

(01:56:17):
The powerful Heather Duplessy Allen is up next. But Tyler,
why am I playing this song?

Speaker 5 (01:56:21):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
Great tune from Daft Punkers Harder, Better, Fastest, Stronger.

Speaker 12 (01:56:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:26):
Yeah, good show because hopefully we're.

Speaker 4 (01:56:27):
Gonna have some juice up freaks competing in Las Vegas
and mayfid the Enharts games.

Speaker 2 (01:56:31):
You go to it again?

Speaker 3 (01:56:32):
Yeah, love it. It's impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:56:34):
All right, have a great afternoon everyone, and until tomorrow,
give a taste of Kiwi from us.

Speaker 1 (01:56:40):
All right then, for more from News Talks B listen
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