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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Helly you great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Afternoon's Full Show podcast number seventy seven for Friday,
the twenty eighth of February twenty twenty five. Fantastic show Today.
Had a very very good time talking to people, some
shocking stories out of Vegas.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
The he Lader, Oh my god, absolutely disgusting. Behove yeah god,
oh my god. We love it.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
And we talked to g Lane later in the show
and he hasn't landed the plane. Literally hasn't landed the
plane because he didn't land the plane, so we missed
the plane. And then he set to drive to Vegas
and he just describes a scene down there and with
all the Wars fans running around Las Vegas has can
been completely overtaken by people and Warriors shirts.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
What a time for belive. I mean, if you're over there,
you lucky lucky buggers.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
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Speaker 1 (01:08):
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Entertaining Talk. It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons with the
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Speaker 3 (01:20):
Today to you. Welcome into the show. Happy Friday. Always
feel a bit happier on a Friday Giday.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
Match Yeah a Tyler, gooday everyone. You know it's ten
years ago today that came Williamson hit the match winning
six to beat the Aussies at the twenty fifteen Cricket
World Cup pool play at Eden Park. I did it
and the entire stadium exploded. That was ten years ago.
Oh my goodness. That twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup was
just such a fantastic time to be alive. Of course

(01:46):
it colemannated with the final at eden Park between South
Africa and New Zealand and Grant Elliott had a six
there to win as well, and then nothing happened after
that and that was the end of the Cricket World
Cup twenty fifteen.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I need to see there and what a time, what
a time. We might play a little bit of that
audio later on actually, but on to today's show and
as always on a Friday, big show for you. After
three o'clock, we've got topical tunes. We've got New Zealander
of the Week.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
That's right, and we've got Darcy's three for the weekend
sporting much must watchers. And we're crossing live to Vegas
where acc head g Lane has misters plane out of
Los Angeles, but he's gotten a car and a convertible
and he will arrive in Las Vegas to tell us
what's happening on the ground. He's already said, and his
travels between Los Angeles and Las Vegas. So far he's

(02:34):
seen so many Warriors shirts. And also it's a massive
keyw WE invasion into Sin City.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
Which we love so looking forward to that check.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I tell them right now they're going to hate themselves
in three days. Right now, arriving in Las Vegas, all
happy box of joy, chomping at the bit to get
into it. You always leave Las Vegas in an emotional slump.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Your soul is going to be broken.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
You want to get home and cuddle your family.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
After that. That is going to be after three o'clock,
after two o'clock. Low Car Beer is massively on the rise.
Sales increased eighteen percent last year. But we are going
to ask the question, Yeah, they happen of a have.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Well, yeah, do they do you think they make a difference.
I mean that they've definitely got lower carbs. If you're
trying to lower your carb intake and you're still drinking,
then they are going to give you lower carbs. Yeah,
you know, considerably lower carbs. Well, yeah, it depends. It's
kind of tricky with the math. Actually we'll go into
that a bit more. But I mean the wider question
is if you want to be healthy and you want
to lose weight and you want to you want to

(03:38):
be fit, can you be drinking a lot of beer,
even if it's a slow carb.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Can you be drinking a lot of alcohol and get healthy?
And you know, as a person that has been body
shamed by Mike Costing just this morning on the show,
I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I needed it.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Have you got low low carb here and that we're yes, Look.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I'm on the I'm on on the upper end of
my yo yo. Yeah. Actually, I think I've got a
rocking bot. I think he's wrong dress those comments later actually,
because I think there's something wrong with the ZB cameras
that he was looking at that made me.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Lock's ten bounds so you know that Mike's one to talk.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah, the ZB cameras and add fifty kg. Anyway, we'll
talk about that a bit later on. Can you stay
healthy and drink beer or are you dreaming?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yep, that's after two o'clock. But right now, some sad
news overnight. Gene Heckman.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Yeah, that's right. One of the most consistently in quality
actors of all time. He's been found passed away, as
you've probably heard, is just covered in a side room
near the kitchen of his house in Santa Fe, while
his wife, Betsy, a sixty five year old classical pianist,
was found in the bathroom. There is enough suspicion to

(04:54):
enter an investigation, although police have not warned anyone in
the area of any problems. There was a dog found
passed away in another room. There might have been some
mummification in one of the bodies, so they might have
been there for a while. They a lot of speculation,
but either way, it's incredibly sad. We've lost one of
the most consistently quality actors of all time, and he
is some of his greatest wick.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
If there's one surefire rule that I have learned in
this business, is that I don't know anything about human nature.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I don't know anything about curiosity.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's not part of what I do.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
What I this.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Is my business. You get this straight, good kicker. Don't
you go mistaken me for some whole other money.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
You can hear the brains in your if you think
we're just gonna fade away, We're gonna be here till
this thing's finished.

Speaker 6 (05:41):
Demours gona tell different bias than you. There lies in
the same here lies. I ain't gonna hurt no one.
I'm gonna hurt you. Not gender life before.

Speaker 7 (05:53):
But.

Speaker 6 (05:56):
Captain command.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
You want to play charge of navy regulations, I say,
I owre you might come, I arrest.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
I'm gonna charge of mutiny. He's a man.

Speaker 6 (06:13):
Can't be you can't be Jewish.

Speaker 8 (06:15):
Kevin Kevin, Kevin, Kevin.

Speaker 9 (06:19):
This is a man.

Speaker 6 (06:21):
I'm not talking about dance lessons.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I'm talking about putting a brick through the other guy's windshield.

Speaker 6 (06:27):
I'm talking about taking it out and chopping it up.

Speaker 8 (06:31):
What do you.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Mean, Yeah, huge movies, great actor.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I mean you just think some of the roles. I mean,
my favorite one even was the Side and Venture. They
always seemed to be on TV when I was the
Conversation of Bridge Too Far, Luce Cannon's The Firm, The
Quick and the Dead. He was great in the Birdcage,
very funny in that I enjoyed him and behind any
lines Runaway Jury, you might remember him, the Firm, the
Royal Tene Barms. He was a great lex luthor and
superman unforgiven.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
The list goes on, Yeah, yeah, a.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Fan, fantastic actor and he's been in everyone's life, everyone's life.
And just before we go back to Gene Hackman, can
I just the people that are texting in and saying
that Grant Elliott hit the six to get us into
the finals? Where yes, but that wasn't today in history.
Today in history was the Australian pool play against that
the pool play at Eden Park against Australia where Caine

(07:27):
Williamson hit the six. Okay, So the five people that
text and said you're an idiot, you got it wrong, No,
it's today in history. It was the pool play game
against Australia. Okay, everyone knows that the Harry Jef hit
the six to get us into the final.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Good came that one okay, mate got it right and
he was very excited about it, and you were there
of course, yes, yes, okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
But anyway, let's get back to Gene Heckman, right.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Back to Gene Hackman, and we shuh, we shouldna laugh
aout this because it is when I read this story.
It's not many times when I read a headline and
I say it loud, get out of down, no way,
And I did it with this one, just because it
was so incredibly sad but also mysterious. Is this like,
what what the heck has happened here?

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Why is his wife in one room? He's in another
and there's a dog somewhere else. I mean, I've got
a speculation. It's like, can I speculate?

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I can to speculate. I've got no evidence to back
this up. They've said that there's no evidence of a
guest leak, even though there was some suggestion. I'm going
to speculate because it's been a while since anyone saw
them and this is a horrible speculation. Just throw it
out and making it up. Okay, read, but he's ninety
five and he actually needs quite a lot of help
to get around. Is it possible that his wife has
passed away and then he hasn't been able to get

(08:37):
the help he needs. Very possible he could have. It
could have been a couple of days. Yeah, you know,
and the dog's unrelated.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Who knows, it's a sprawling runch anyway.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, anyway, it's it's it's mysterious, and it's really sad.
He's been part of our lives for a very long time.
There's no one in the world that hasn't been you
know't hasn't seen Gene Hackman in a movie. Yeah, absolutely fantastic.
But you're saying this one, this one affects you.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yeah, this one affected me, And that's the question what
I ask And a lot of teacher coming through. But
those celebrity deaths that really impacted you, and you know,
there's a couple that come to mind. Princess Diana, for example.
A lot of people know where they were when they
heard that she had had that crash in that tunnel.
And initially, this is my memory. Initially the news was
that she'd broken her leg and it all was okay,

(09:21):
and then of course she wasn't and the rest of
the news came out and I was at my grandparents
dairy when I heard that, and I was thinking why
is everyone getting so upset? But there is those those
deaths in our lives, those celebrity deaths that really impact us.
So love to hear from you. On eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and nine two nine two it is the.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Text, Yeah, what are the celebrity deaths that hit you?
Harden nine two is the text number as well.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It is quarter past one.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Rip Gene Hackman.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
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Speaker 3 (10:01):
Zed B, News Talk zed B, and we've asked the
question what celebrity passing shocked you the most on the
back of the death of Gene Hackman, his wife and
one of his dogs. Very mysterious, very sad, but love
to hear from you. I eight hundred and eighty and
eighty plenty of ticks coming through on nine to nine two.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, and what one do you miss the most? Because
Gene Hackman said he's died at ninety five, but he'd
retired from acting in two thousand and four, so we
weren't going to see much of him ever. Again, and
he's got such a fantastic body of work. You go there,
But some of the younger ones that you think they
could have done so much more in their life, and
you know, we missed out on a lot of their work,

(10:39):
you know, I mean, I'm thinking about Kurt Cobain.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
For me, absolutely, yeah, that was too.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
That was an absolute shocker for me and yet kind
of not as surprising as it could be because his
life was spiraling so far out of control, but the
dramatic events around it, but you know, he had so
many so much more music in him.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know, because Ellen Rickman wasn't
incredibly young, but that's still absolutely devastated me because he
was such an amazing actor and a lot of it
was down to his role in Harry Pottery.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Millennials and Harry Potter.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Oh man, he was good. He was a great snape.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
All millennials try and construct their entire personality around Harry.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Potter's a great movie, great book.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Jimmy h Celebrities, Friday, Happy Friday, Jimmy.

Speaker 10 (11:25):
Yeah, Hey, yeah, I was. I was pretty sadden to
hear about Gene Hackman. And then you know, Roverted Flack
a few days ago, and you can't. I thank god
I am getting older, you know. But I remember Gene
Hackton growing up in the seventies as a teenager, and he.

Speaker 11 (11:43):
Did do some phenomenal movies. I can assure you that.

Speaker 10 (11:46):
But oh and when Elvis died, that hit me hard,
pretty bloody hard.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
And lady die, can you remember can you remember where
you were when Elvis Presley died?

Speaker 11 (11:57):
Yeah, yeah, I was.

Speaker 10 (11:58):
I was working and living in theater to Auckland next.
And I remember the day it happened to work.

Speaker 6 (12:06):
We stopped.

Speaker 10 (12:07):
I was driving afore and the whole factory just went
to a dead stop. And people were saying, Jimmy, Jimmy,
al this is dead. I said, you know, bullshit sort
of thing. But I couldn't believe it. But you know,
and poor old Jene Hackman, and it sends me the
wave that found them with the wee animal, the wife

(12:29):
and him all in different rooms.

Speaker 12 (12:32):
And it's funny.

Speaker 10 (12:33):
I was thinking of something too, met that you were
thinking about. Mate. I don't know if something's not right.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Yeah, I mean, just you know, you know, the place
is saying that there, you know, there's enough suspicious for
them to run an investigation, but I think the level
of that's pretty low, you know, like, yeah, pretty suspiciously
just in different rooms. So let's get to the bottom
of it. They can't find a gas leak, so it's odd.
So they're investigating, very very odd.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Hey, and listen one more thing just before I go.
Don't worry about Nanny Hopkins.

Speaker 11 (13:05):
Mate.

Speaker 10 (13:05):
You doing all right?

Speaker 3 (13:06):
Okay, guys you Jimmy cheers, thank you, Thanks, I got
it now. I thought you said many Hopkins there, but
I think he was talking about Mike Costkins, right.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, I thought he was talking about some kind of
actor that might be Anthony Hopkins. Someone was going to pass.
I was I don't worry, they're fine. Yeah, I don't worry,
they're fine.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Some great teas coming through on nine to nine two.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
So Elvis Presley died. He was only forty two years
old when Elvis Presley died, that's right. So it's amazing
to have done that much in his life. And just
talking about yesterday, I went to Graceland and you can
stand right by his grave and it's crazy to stand
there and go, Elvis's bones are right here. Yeah, but
that was nineteen seventy seven, forty two, so he never
got to see Star Wars. Hang in a minute. He

(13:51):
died in August ninety seventy seven, so he might have
got to see Star Wars that the first one it
might have come out. He might have seen Star Wars
in May.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Will never know they were we Oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is
twenty two past one.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the Mike Hosking the.

Speaker 13 (14:08):
Power business heading to another winter, A price increases in
cold inmplirtation, Energy Minister Simon Wattson's with us.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
How worried about winter are you?

Speaker 14 (14:15):
I am worried, Mike. Situation is pretty acute. I think
most people know it's pretty dry out there at the moment.
Lake levels are lower than what they were at this
time last year. We still haven't got guest supplied. That
means that it's going to be a tight winter.

Speaker 13 (14:26):
Did you say what you see because you needed to
say it or just fill some headlines? In other words,
are they scurrilous and are now going to have to
tidy they're ACKed up? Or were they decent players?

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Anyway?

Speaker 14 (14:36):
Now, look, Mike, the circumstances have changed. We need some
action and we need to see everyone playing their part.
We need more generation, but we also need a competitive market.

Speaker 13 (14:45):
Back Monday from six am, the mic Asking Breakfast with
Bayley's real Estate News talk.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
Z be Good Afternoon, where I have asked the question
about the celebrity desk that shocked you the most on
the back of the death of Gene Hackman and his
wife and sadly one of his dogs as well. All
mysterious been incredibly set but clearly there has been many
many celebrity desks that have shocked people over the decades,
and a lot of techs coming through on nine to

(15:11):
nine two. But let's go back to the phones. Flair
Good Afternoon.

Speaker 15 (15:16):
Yeah, Yeah, isn't it amazing how these people we've never
met actually have such an impact on our lives that
we mourn them so much when they die. And for me,
it was Elvis Presley.

Speaker 16 (15:26):
I was sixteen years old.

Speaker 15 (15:28):
I was in my first job at Fisher and Parker,
and I was sitting in front of my IBM's electric
Goulfll typewriter and someone told me and I just totally
lost it and solved it uncontrollably so much so that
they sent me home.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Had you stayed on board with flur? Had you stayed
with Elvis? Because of course he had his initial career,
and then he had his Hollywood career, and then he
had his comeback and come back career, and then he
had his Las Vegas days. But had you followed him
or was your fandom in a particular era?

Speaker 15 (16:01):
Oh well, I sort of had this miserable childhood and
I just remember his movies, you know, Chickle Me and
Devile Lot, all of those movies being such an escape
from all of that. And I had this crusty old
record player in my bedroom with three albums, an Engelbert
humbered In one and the Jim Reeves one. But the
one I played the.

Speaker 17 (16:19):
Most was Blue or Why you know, like, you know,
he kind of.

Speaker 15 (16:24):
Like saved me from a lot of bad things. It
was a big impact. But on the subject of Pacman
last week, you had a conversation about, you know, who
were the factors? And I didn't call through, but struck
me that most of the people who were nominated really
good looking guys, and Jean wasn't amongst them. I don't
thing because he wasn't a good looking guy, you know,

(16:44):
but it wasn't It doesn't spring to mind as a
great actor because he didn't fit that mold, but he
actually was, as he was better than most of them.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
It was often just a great supporting actor, wasn't he.
He wasn't necessarily the handsome lead, but he might play
the bad guy or the supporting guy or the bad
good guy. I mean, how great was he? An unforgiven
as the good bad sheriff, you know, And he played
that role quite a few times, didn't he, Like in
the French Connection. He was just a sort of a
a good guy bad guy, yes, but just such an

(17:13):
great actor, like just so solid and always good and
everything he was in.

Speaker 15 (17:19):
There was one lesser known movie. He was in Absolute
Power with Turns Eastward.

Speaker 18 (17:23):
Yeah and Laura Lenny, I think, and you know that
was not a big hit movie, but he played an
extraordinarily evil and corrupt and all residents and did it
so well.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
He was just he was quite a terrifying presence on
on screen. I mean, you know, there were some movies
like The Royal tenem Balms were again fantastic, not terrifying,
But I was thinking Mississippi Burnie, where he was clearly
the good guy, but he just had I mean, that's
a great movie. He was a terrifying character though, wasn't it.
You wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of
the character that he played in that movie. Indeed, Yeah, Flir,

(17:58):
thank you very much. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. What was the celebrity
death that impacted you the most?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Greg, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 17 (18:09):
Yeah, thanks, guys, the ones that had made the most
When I was young, it was just a teenagers. Thirteen
fourteen was Jimmy Hendrix death year, and they're on a
Saturday nine. He's been sound dead in London, tied of
na days and he was part of the twenty seven
club along with Jim Morrison and Jennie Joplin. You know,
he was such so prominent back in the seventies and
they had such a high profile. But over the years

(18:32):
there's been other people like John Belushi Talent and Robin
Williams such so sad and then not so long ago,
there was Rip Right from Pink Floyd and s Barrett
from Floyd, you know, who was something of a mysterious character.
He's left Floyd in the early days when they started
to really get successful. But he was always in the background,

(18:53):
and in all of a sudden he's dead. You know
he was. I mean, he's who shine on on you,
crazy diamonds all.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, Well, an amazing character, potentially insane, but you go
to Belushi. Belushi's one of the those ones talking about
before that would have done so much much more because
you know, he was the funny guy. He was Animal House,
he was Blues Brothers. But he also had this kind
of side to him. He was such a good actor.
You could imagine him having a whole another dramatic career.

(19:20):
You could imagine him doing so many things. He was
supposed to be Ghostbusters instead of Bill Murray. There was
there was a whole career coming for Belushi that we
never never got to see, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
Yeah, there's a.

Speaker 17 (19:31):
Great book written about him called Why the Short Life
and Fast Times of John Belushi, and I think in
New Zealand producer it was behind the production of the film.
But I know Hollywood went very happy about the People
like DeNiro were quite up seated about it because they
should have portrayed him in a bad light. But he
had his dark side. Too when he got out in

(19:52):
the res or and they reckon that when he had
personal chauffs, they could only be bopped on for eight
hours because he'd just go for twenty four hours non
stop and they couldn't keep up with him, so they
had to do it in the shifts.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, there's the stories this bok around the Blues Brothers
and that that was a challenging shoot seeing as he
was generally not there and generally out on some kind
of cocaine binge. But yeah, yeah, he definitely burned lived fast.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Yeah, he did a great Joe Cocker, didn't he was?
It said at a night live that I think he
played as Joe Cocker phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
It was good musicians. So members of that twenty seven
club Kirk Cobain, Brian Jones, Rolling Stones, Jim Morrison, Amy Winehouse,
Robert Johnson, Jennie Joplin, did I say, yeah, it's quite
quite amazing. Jimmy Hendrix. There's a few of them that
that I wonder why it is. Yeah, there are conspiracy
theories around Jimmy Hendrix though as passing. Have you ever

(20:49):
heard those?

Speaker 3 (20:49):
No? Should we get to those?

Speaker 2 (20:50):
So we could get to those?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, we could get in.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Murdered.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Yeah, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Headlines coming up.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
Yeah, and I've got a question for you. Oh oh no,
oh no.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
You wait for this question. Oh no, this is a
doozy of the tease.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Oh no, oh no, I'll have to just tell you
the answer. I've lost my bit of paper.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
This is like a reverse situation.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
This is a disaster.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Now I hold that for because here's a question coming up. Well,
headlines are coming up. Then the quest of a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, there you go. A fun fact.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
It is twenty nine to two US talks.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
It'd be headlines with blue bubble tax.

Speaker 19 (21:40):
It's no troubled with a blue bubble. The Prime Minister
is hinting at a major uplift and defense spending Chris
Luckxen's touchdown in Ho Chi Minh City and Vietnam, after
defense being the focus of his last few hours in Hanoi.
The government is set to review the legal aid system
in order to prioritize victims and their access to justice.

(22:02):
Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith says the review will concentrate on quality, assurance,
eligibility and repayment settings. A sixteen year old's been arrested
following a serious assault at Christchurch's Richmond Village Green on
the fourth of February. Police say he's facing charges of
wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm and assault.

(22:23):
TV and Z is reporting a first half operating profit
of eleven point eight million dollars after millions of dollars
of cutbacks, but the state owned broadcaster still expects to
make an operational loss for the year. Due to tough
economic conditions and investments in new technology, Somerset may ban
non residents receiving care in its hospitals. You can find

(22:47):
out more at ENZD Herald Premium. Back to matt Ethan
Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
Thank you very much, Raylean, and we are talking about
loosely the death of Gene Hackman and his wife and
one of his dogs. Very sad, very mysterious, but shocking.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, and the question I wanted to ask before the
news but couldn't find my little bit of paper and
for some reason my memory didn't didn't fire up and
tell me I was talking about. But it was in
twenty twenty four. What did celebrity made the most money
in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
Great question, what did celebrity made the most money in
twenty twenty four?

Speaker 6 (23:21):
Two?

Speaker 3 (23:22):
I'm going to do you reckon earth?

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Elvis?

Speaker 2 (23:27):
Okay, will you find out?

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
All right, you will find out?

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Can I Can I check another name in there?

Speaker 2 (23:32):
You'll find out? When? When should I announced this this thing?

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Because we take it. We'll take a few more because
I want to chat about it.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Let's remind you, let's remind usselves to do it before
the end of.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
This big note.

Speaker 11 (23:43):
Here.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Can I check one more in there?

Speaker 11 (23:45):
Yep?

Speaker 3 (23:45):
John Lennond Okay, all right mate, all right, no clues,
no clues. All right? If you think you know? Nine
two nine two is the ticks number?

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Did celebrity made the most money in twenty twenty four?

Speaker 6 (23:54):
Yeap?

Speaker 3 (23:54):
And we've asked you the question, what is the celebrity
death that shocked you the most? Plenty of ticks coming through.
I'll just read this one, John Candy. I grew up
with John Candy as a child, so many movies I
watched of hers increatible gutting to hear him die at
the very young age of forty three Into your Candy.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, he was huge, he was great, and he was.
He was great for a cameo, like in one of
my favorite movies of all time, Planes, Trains and Automobiles. Yeah,
and he'd just turn up and make his little appearance
and it would be it would be it'ld be spectacular.
Who did the same thing at home alone? Just just
he was a great cameo.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Man, cool runnings.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, funny man Uncle.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Buck yeap oh one hundred and eighty ten eighties the
number call Ellen? How are you this afternoon?

Speaker 20 (24:38):
Very good?

Speaker 6 (24:38):
How are you guys?

Speaker 11 (24:39):
God? Good?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Thank you. So you've met Gene Hackman.

Speaker 20 (24:43):
Yeah, I've had more than a couple of beers with him,
to be honest.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
How did that come about?

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Ellen?

Speaker 21 (24:50):
I was living in Sabakotokinaballoo in Malaysia, and I had
a very good American friend and we used to take
our kids down to the local Shertan swimming pool and
have a couple of beers. So we're having a couple
of beers and this American guy comes up. I see
my friend's voice, fellow Americans and can I during your

(25:13):
join you boys for a beer?

Speaker 16 (25:15):
Come on?

Speaker 5 (25:16):
Wow?

Speaker 8 (25:17):
So he was they were shooting a movie.

Speaker 21 (25:21):
I was called back twenty one It was meant to
be shot in the Philippines, but because they were having
a little wall of Marcross and the Keno, they came
over to borne Own shot it. So yeah, for about
a week Randy and me and my wife and kids
sat down and had beers with them.

Speaker 20 (25:39):
Hell of a night, Skuy.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Right and did he did he have good did he
have good stories?

Speaker 21 (25:43):
Gene Heckman, Yeah, Oh yeah, my son was sitting on
his knee entertaining them.

Speaker 20 (25:50):
Yeah, dun all with the kids, and yeah, it was
ago about four or five days from memory, it was
a long time ago, yeah, probably four days.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Was he was he a good drinker? Did he like
his beer?

Speaker 16 (26:03):
Hey?

Speaker 20 (26:04):
Like his Bear's got him anchor and Tiger beer and Malaysia?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yeah, and sorry I missed at the start, Ellen about
what what what? What year was this?

Speaker 20 (26:13):
Uh or they.

Speaker 21 (26:18):
Of the late seventies. I'm quite sure when we came
back to New Zealand. So we've been probably city forty
years ago.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, And and so Geene Hackman had some good downtime
on that on that movie shoot, didn't he if he
could be sitting.

Speaker 21 (26:35):
There was a big problem with getting permission to shoot
the movie because I were using aircraft and right, which
is a known in Malaysia, and it took him a
long time, so he he was in the hotel for
a couple of weeks before they actually started shooting. I
think the mate I was leaving to come back to
New Zealand with my family that I think my mate

(26:58):
was a bavironment or something in the vietnamme pub that
they had, so you know the movie.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Yeah, we can you.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Remember any any good Gene Hackman story from from your
time with them?

Speaker 5 (27:12):
No, that was the.

Speaker 21 (27:14):
Days before you the cell phone and selfies and we
never even thought to take a sure getting It was
just a mate, you know, just.

Speaker 16 (27:21):
Someone to have a beer with. We never even asked
him for.

Speaker 21 (27:24):
An autograph, Randy and I because both in southeas stage
for many years, so we hadn't seen movies, you know
European movies for many many years, so we didn't even
know who he was to be honest.

Speaker 3 (27:37):
Yeah, wow, what a story I think.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Thanks for sharing that, Allen, thanks to your call. What
movie he would have been shooting around that time would
have been just before he played Lex Luthor and Superman. Yeah,
and then he got really massive at that point that
was as big break was at least I mean he
was he had been big. I mean, the French connection
had been massive. He won an Academy Award ninety seventy one,
so it'd always been really big. But I mean, the

(28:00):
first Superman movie was just gigiantak It was just a
huge global everyone saw it movie in Herold and the
age of superhero movies, well, the first first run of
superhero movies, so you know he was about to get
pretty pretty goddamn well known after that.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Yeah, Mary, good afternoon to you. Now you've got an
incredible connection to Gene Hackman.

Speaker 9 (28:23):
Oh well, I may as well give you my proper name,
because I've just written a book and it is in
the book my Name's My name is Penelope. Yes, I
was living in Europe in nineteen sixty nine and skiing
on Robert Redfoot's Downhill Movies and Geene Hackman was on

(28:45):
the movie and he took out my girlfriend Knebelt, and
he was a lovely guy. I mean, you know, we
spent a lot of time with him and with Rob Redford.
So yeah, I may as well push my book.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, please do what's your book called? Penelope?

Speaker 9 (29:02):
And there my book is called My Summer of sixty nine.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Summer of sixty nine nice.

Speaker 9 (29:07):
After the movie, sorry, after the song yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
And Adam so so yeah when you say so you're
on downhill racist? So you were you were sort of
a stunt skier? Were you a background scared?

Speaker 9 (29:17):
It wasn't so much of stunt skier. We we more did.
I was actually going out with someone from the British
ski team. A lot of the time we were just
what would they call it, stamping the peace. We were
making the the snow ready for the big races. Yeah.
They had real, real European racing stars there. Yeah, yeah,

(29:41):
skiing on the movie.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, no it Robert Robert Redford looked great in a
ski suit, didn't he. He was he filled out a
ski suit nicely, good looking man. And he did the date.
So got any details from the date?

Speaker 9 (29:55):
Oh no, it wasn't just the date. No, she was
seeing him while we were there. Yeah, And they took
a lot of stills on the movie, so I had.
I had a lovely slot of them sitting on a
sort of wagon or something there.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah, no, how amazing.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
And what else is in your book from the Summer
of sixty nine? Penelope.

Speaker 8 (30:12):
Oh well, you have to read this.

Speaker 3 (30:14):
I'm just having a look at the bird. It sounds salacious. Yeah,
you've lived a life. I'll just read out the top
line of the description A memoir about a tumultuous relationship
in the late sixties in sitch was in a lovely
little Spanish coastal town. Wow, where the party never stops.

Speaker 5 (30:34):
So is it is it? Is it?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
It's a it's a biography, is it?

Speaker 12 (30:39):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (30:39):
It is?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Okay, so and so was you in this, in this,
in this relationship? Yes, who was that with? If you
don't mind me asking.

Speaker 9 (30:47):
Oh gosh, he's long gone. And so you've got to
buy the book.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Okay, all right, your great said to your great sales
per absolutely what I thought.

Speaker 9 (30:58):
I wasn't going to come on A and I wasn't
going to give you my real name B. And then
I thought, no, spoil your books, you know definitely.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
What what what were movie part because I'm sure you're
invited to the movie parties back there in nineteen sixty
nine for years. What were those movie parties?

Speaker 11 (31:11):
Like?

Speaker 9 (31:12):
Yeah, I sent a postcard home to my parents saying
that I was sitting at dinner.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
Beside Natalie Wood oh, yes, that was.

Speaker 9 (31:20):
Going out with I think he was. He was someone
on the movie to do with the movie. Anyway, she
was lovely, you know, they're lovely, lovely people.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Fantastic. So the book is called My Summer of sixty
nine by Penelope Gardner's I'm just going to read what
it says on the cover, because again, very salacious. What
it doesn't mean to marry the most exciting, unpredictable man
you've ever met after only a few short weeks?

Speaker 11 (31:47):
Wow?

Speaker 9 (31:48):
Yeah, yeah, quite may I say I've probably missed most
of the sillacious parts up Yeah, so got children and grandchildren?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Okay, well, maybe you'd have another edition at some point.
But Henna, when you're hanging out with Natalie Woods, she
wasn't dating Robert Wagner at that point, was she?

Speaker 6 (32:06):
No?

Speaker 9 (32:06):
Yeah, of course that man name escapes me.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Richard Greson Gregson, Richard Gregson anyway, it doesn't matter, I'm
trying to remember. But anyway, of course, the whole Natalie
Wood situation with Robert Wagner ended up in that really
bizarre thing with Kristin Walker walking on the on the water,
and then she ended up dying, didn't you. Yeah, yeah, okay,
as I said, thank you so much, Penelope. I'll look
out for that book.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
Fantastic. I mean, this is why I love took back.
You know, you never know who's going to call in. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 23 (32:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
The answer to the question, yep, I said Elvis. I Also,
who was the highest earning dead celebrity? You said, Elvis?

Speaker 11 (32:45):
Did you?

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Rubbish? Michael Jackson here in six hundred million last year,
Freddie Mercury two in a fifty million, doctor Zeus seventy
five million. He's doing well. Elvis Presley down the list
of four at fifty million. And Rick Osaak from the
cars he's forty five million, so he's doing well.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
And where was Lennon?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
My second pick, John Lennon's He ended up pathetic seventeen
million last year, John John work Hard.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It is quarter to two.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
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Speaker 3 (33:27):
That'd be good afternoon. We are talking about the death
of Gene Hackman and his wife. It is suspicious enough
for investigation. Police say that is all we know. It
is incredibly tragic and mysterious. But we've also asked the
question the most shocking celebrity death for you, and plenty
of text coming in.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, and interestingly the conversation has gone a very different way,
and we've had a lot of people ringing in that
have met Geene Hackman. Yeah, and there's been narry a
bad word to say about the man. Sounds six on
the beers in Malaysia and fantastic up the mount up
the Swiss Alps.

Speaker 3 (34:01):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Yeah, it sounds like.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
A dating Kiwi woman.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
I think Michael Jackson was a big shot for me.
Absolutely a SLS with Michael Jackson when that was that
was a big one. Robin Williams, that was trud was
about twenty fourteen. You know, when these people pass it
really sort of what's the word it ages? Where the
time was all right, let's go to Mark. You've also
got a connection with Gene Hackman.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Well, I keep there.

Speaker 24 (34:28):
There's a cool Kiwi connection in this story. So Kevin
Costner goes on the Rich Eisen Show and tells the
story about working with Hackman. He doesn't say the movie,
doesn't say the director, but it's Roger Donaldson in the
movie's No Way Out, the Kiwi director, And he says
that he was having this tat attack backwards and forwards
with Donaldson and they were disagreeing, and Hackman pulls them

(34:52):
aside at the end of the day and said, thank
you for doing that standing up for actors. In this
he gives him the spiel and Costner always says about
how important he felt Gene Hackman became in his life
that he afforded him this spect by saying to them,
I've been made the actual system. I got divorced recently.

(35:12):
I've been making crap movies. But to see you stand
up for actors was filled me full of of of women,
but you know, steel and all this sort of thing
which I always thought.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Was really great. And so Gene Hackman said that Roger
Donaldson to cost to Costa because Costa was standing up
to Roger donalsonon, Ah. Yeah, it's interesting though, because Costner
and Roger Donaldson are very good friends to the stay,
so they must have patched it up. They are Yeah,
they are.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
Very good dream.

Speaker 11 (35:43):
I think it's it was Costner's first big.

Speaker 24 (35:45):
Break that movie, and he wanted it to be right.
And it is a good, good, damn good thriller that
that that that Hey, quickly I picked the MJ to
be the to be the highest inning dead person.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
I see right. Thanks for your cool Mattee. Fantastic great
keywy connection. There a couple of texts then when you
get to a break, guys, David Bowie's death rocked me
a musical hero of mine. Taylor Hawkins of course from
the Food Fighters.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
The whole David Bowie thing bugs me because I never
saw him live and he's one of my favorite artists.
Very selfish of him to pass before I got to
see him live.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
Absolutely, yeah, right, coming up very shortly, we'll take a
few more calls and messages and then a top five
from Matt Heath on the greatest Gene Heckman movies of
all time.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams, taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the
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Speaker 6 (36:43):
Awaits News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
News talk zb right. That is we will almost wrap
up the Gene Hackman discussion. Very sad and more will
come out of that story.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, but yeah, as we said, he's passed away. The
ultimate supporting actor was Gene Hackman. Five nams and two
Oscar Wins. Before he retired in two thousand and four.
He'd appeared in well over one hundred movies and absolute
legend that age for about forty years.

Speaker 11 (37:09):
That's what I was.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
That was amazing on Sam. He's going to age, That's
what It's kind of hit me that he that he's
passed because he did retire for meeting a long time ago,
but he's always the same age.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Lovely skin.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
So here are my top five Hackman films. Before we start,
there are some honorary mentions of movies that you'll know.
The Man from The Poseidon Adventure seventy two. Loved that movie,
The Conversation seventy four, Bridge Too Fast seventy seven, Loose
Cannon's ninety The Firm nineteen ninety three, Quick in the
Dead ninety ninety five, Bird Cage. He was very good
in that. In ninety six, Behind Him the Lines, I

(37:39):
love that film. That's from two thousand and one and
Runaway Jury as well. But here is my top five. Okay,
from nineteen seventy one, The French Connection, he played Jimmy
Popeye Doyle, narcotics detective and cold, a moral, relentless and obsessed,
bad but good cop. At number four The Royal ten
and Barnes. That's from two thousand and one. Titular role
as a disbarred lawyer trying to reconnect with as a

(38:01):
strange family boy. That was a that's a very funny,
very funny We Saiss film Superman ninety. This had a
big effect on me. Lex Luthor in the smash It
movie that kicked off the big budget superhero genre. He
was also Lex and two, three and four. Now this
is a fantastic movie. You've got to watch this again
if you haven't watch it for a while. Unforgiven from

(38:22):
nineteen ninety two won the Oscar for Best Supporting Actor
for his performance is Sheriff little Bill Daggett. It's a gretty,
gretty revisionist Clint East with western and fantastic. But this
is going to be controversial. This is going to be controversial,
all right. My absolute favorite Gene Hackman.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Movie of all time?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Okay, Who's is? From nineteen eighty six, Hackman plays Norman Dale,
a basketball coach who failed at the college level and
gets another shot at a tiny Indiana high school. Best
sports movie of all time. Listen to this speech.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Forget about the crowds, the size of the school, their
fancy uniforms, and remember what got you here. Focus on
the fundamentals we've gone over time and time again, and
most important, don't get caught up thinking about winning or
losing this game. If you put your effort and concentration

(39:14):
into playing to your potential.

Speaker 5 (39:15):
To be the best that you can be. I don't
care what the scoreboard says at the end of the game.
In my book, we're going to be winners. Okay, all right,
let's go. Let's go.

Speaker 9 (39:38):
Let me here.

Speaker 6 (39:45):
Who's Jane?

Speaker 3 (39:51):
All right? Thank you very much for that. Another topic
on the table. Afternoon Sport and whither you're listening to
Matt and Tyler. Good afternoon to.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
You, talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons with the Volvo
X nineteen news Talks.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Very good afternoons. You Happy Friday. Hope you're doing well.
We're you're listening in the country. Great hour, Last.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Hour, fantastic hour, talking about the passing of Gene Hackman,
and look, I just felt like we needed to tie
a bow in that hour because so many texts were
coming through. We had these great stories from people that
actually met Gene Heckman in Credible, so we had to
take those to air. But we were also talking about
passings that hit people hard in the heart, and so
we got so many thousands of decks on it. I
thought I'd just read out some of the names that
kept coming through. Steve Irwin, that was a big one,

(40:38):
that was huge, and he when he went down at
the hands of a ray, a sting ray, stingray. Yeah,
he was pisting around a stingray, not a crock. Yeah,
that was the weird part. Heath Ledger, that was tragic.

Speaker 6 (40:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
After the fantastic role of Joker, you done a lot
of stuff, and he'd always been good, but then he
was just phenomenal as Joker, and then he went Taylor
Hawkins of course, from the Food Fighters, Bob Marley, Michael Jackson,
had a lot of people hard great Michael Jackson, David
Bowie as well, of course, Stevie Ray Vaughan. Oh yeah, yeah,
he went down, Paul Walker and Owen Hart some of

(41:10):
the ones that came through. Paul Walker from Fast and
Furious and Our Heart the Wrestler. Yes, so there you go.
Just sort of read some of those out because so
many texts coming through, And isn't it funny we wanted
to do it justice right as our first called through.
Isn't it funny that we get affected by the pathing
of people that we don't know.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah, you know, well, just going back to Gene Heckman,
I can't remember the last time I saw one of
his movies, but again, that just really upset me, as
did a lot of people. That's you know, they get
into your heart, some of those libs. Right now, before
we get into the low car bear discussion, Yes, something
you wanted to to talk about.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Yeah, coffee gate continues after I spilt this coffee the
other day and it sort of plays into this topic
that we want to talk about today, which is about
the rise of low car beers. Okay, so we'll go
back to what happened. I spilt my coffee in the
my Costing Memorial studio, which we all sit in here
and it leaved a bit of a mess and it
all got cleaned up really well. But then then Husking

(42:02):
found out, and you know, he wasn't hugely happy about it.
But then a video went halp of the incident that
you can probably watch on zb socials still or Matt
Heath and z on Instagrams at your place to watch.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
It gives you a good insight into the dramatic episode of.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Yes, though that went up and what's come under the
Microsoft Microsoft's a couple of things, a my choice of
clean up method and also the quality of my rig.
So listen to this audio from this morning from the
Microsking breakfast.

Speaker 13 (42:32):
One of the first things he did when he spilt
his coffee in my studio was take his top off
and wipe it up. Now, that to me is just
the most random response to a problem.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
He's he's just used to getting his kid off.

Speaker 20 (42:45):
That's his go to, just went get notes.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
Well, that's my next point.

Speaker 13 (42:49):
If you look like him, If you look like him,
why would you take your top off?

Speaker 23 (42:54):
Have you seen him?

Speaker 2 (42:55):
He's in shocking shape shape.

Speaker 9 (42:58):
I cannot save it.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yeah, well, see the thing is like I just want
to address that before we get into the slow car
be a thing, and can you be healthy and still
drink alcohol? And are you dreaming you think lo beer
is your safe Yeah, so it just plays the nicely
that they brought out the state of my rig. And
I just want to say that I think there's a
problem with the news dog z'db cameras definitely is because
I think, you know, famously cameras are ten pounds. I
think that one adds twenty pounds. Yep, because I think

(43:23):
I'm getting better. And look, I know this is true
because me and my partner were listening to this and
she goes, I think you've got a beautiful body.

Speaker 24 (43:32):
Man.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
Well, good on Tracy for saying that. So I agree
with Tracy.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
My costing doesn't rate my rig. But I think Tracy's
actually seen it, you know, rather than just with these
these inflating these inflating cameras. I mean everyone knows as
soon as the video camera goes on, you turn into
you know, a big, blubbering, you know, bag of lart. Yeah,
when I'm walking around, just absolutely ripped most of the time.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Yeah, anyway, we're going to put there to be But also,
you know why we're getting so prudish were taking our
tops off in the studio. I think they should be
encouraged to be honest.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Well, I would say that was unusual behavior, but it
was also a testament to how much I cared about
the studio. Yeah, that I would. I locked around, I
couldn't find any paper tails, couldn't find anything to clean
up the mess, so I whipped my shirt off.

Speaker 11 (44:18):
It.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Actually, it may seem unusual, and yes I do like
getting my cut off, and I am looking for an
excuse at any point to do it. But it also
was thinking outside the box and as solved a problem
with the the what I had at hand.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
You know, the Kiwi engineer sacrifice in an eighty dollar
T shirt. That's what we need more of, right coming up?
Wait you, let's get into this now. Let's have a
chat about low car beer. So, speaking of body shaming,
low car beer exploded last year. In terms of beer
sales went up eighteen percent in twenty twenty four. And
it's on the back of another study about our drinking habits,

(44:53):
and in terms of our drinking of wine that has
fallen almost five percent. We're drinking a heck of a
load more beer, strong beer, low car beer wine taking
a bit of a hat.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Yes, so we'd like to hear from one hundred and
eighty ten why you drink low car beer because it's
going off? And is it working for you? Are you
becoming you know? Are you losing weight from drinking low
car beer? Is it changing the situation? Or are we
dreaming when we think that we're drinking that we can
drink healthily? Because there is people, there's a name for it.

(45:27):
I'm not gonna I'm not gonna use it on air.
It's a skinny something they're gonna be but it's a
it's a soda vodka and soda. Tasty drink, yeap, but
very unrewarding drink, but probably the one that's gonna fatten
you up the least. But yeah, low car beers are
they working? Are they? Are they a real thing in
terms of weight loss? I do? I get them? Me too,

(45:48):
and I feel good about myself. Yeah, I come back
for the fifth jug of low car beer and I'm
thinking to myself, I'm losing weight here, I'm losing weight
here drinking this.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Yeah, right, get on the phone. Eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is number to call. Nine two ninety two, and
someone who was listening is Dylan Firth, ex director of
the Brewers Association, so we'll have a chat to him
very shortly as well. It is thirteen past two.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
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Speaker 6 (46:19):
Call eight hundred eighty eighty News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
Be good afternoon. It is a quarter past two when
we're talking about low car beer. The rise of low
car be increased eighteen percent in terms of beer sales
last year. That is a phenomenal increase. When the sale
of wine dropped quite dramatically. Table wine down over four percent.
Fortified wine. Long time since I've drunk fortified wine, but

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that is down ten percent.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
So what fortified wine? What's fortified wine?

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Port?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Port? I love a port, do you? I love a
port at the end of the night. But I guess
some wine sales are heavily restaurant based, aren't they?

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (46:54):
Very true, you know, so if people don't have the
money to go to restaurants, then they might not be
drinking as much wine. Dylan Firth from the extra Director
of the Bruise Association welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
You're very good.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
How how is low car beer made, like, how is
it made as opposed to just a normal beer?

Speaker 11 (47:16):
Yes, most slightly differently.

Speaker 25 (47:18):
I mean it's alsosed to do with ingredients and a
lot of the time it will have a lower alcohol percentage,
which brings down the carbohydrate levels as well. So I
mean when you're looking at kind of calories and a
beer that it comes from the alcohol itself, So that's
the fermented sugars from their grains and that's where your
calorie sits. So if it's a lower percentage, it's generally
going to be lower calories as well. So you'll find

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that low car beers are often in the kind of
four four point one four point two percent range, So
that's where you're seeing them.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yeah, because some people that have been to America that
you know, you get they've had their light beers there,
like they cause light and their bud light for the
longest time. But that's not light beer in terms of
low alcohol and it's not in terms of low carb
is it. Those ones? Are they low calorie beers.

Speaker 25 (47:57):
They're just they're just a lower percentage. So yeah, that's
just an American brand incomes, and we don't do the
light beer here. But you know, as you say, I
mean you talk about eighteen percent, that that's actually the
percentage of the entire beer market that low card makes up.
So it's a sizable chunk. But what we're seeing is
while there was a slight increase in the last year,
that offset the drop that was the year before, So

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it's just kind of come back to where it was,
and that eighteen percent of the market that's just shifted
from what people were drinking other types of beer, and
they've shifted their beer consumption. So you were talking earlier
about you know, being more healthy, I think because people
a drinking the same amount more broadly, but shifting their
behaviors overall, I think it is a better trend.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
So how much in real terms, how much how many
carbs are removed from from a beer? So what would
you normally expect. Let's just say we might as well
do it in one hundred mills. I don't know if
that's a convenient way for you to do it, But
what's a convenient way in terms of grams per mills

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for you for you to do it? And so we
can just work out how how much is a low
car beer is less carbs. You see what I'm getting air.

Speaker 25 (49:03):
So I mean they'll often been a little bit different
per beers, but some of the big kind of brand
ones for sample would be say seventy five percent less
carbs and a beer and per hundred meals.

Speaker 11 (49:13):
You like it, but you got one in front of me.

Speaker 25 (49:15):
It's not open though, as zero point five grams one
hundred miles, it's pretty low. And then you're looking at
kind of calories that's you know, that's only per hundred
mills twenty.

Speaker 11 (49:24):
Seven calories, so it fairly low computer compete to the
other one.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
You're losing three grams of carbs basically, and a beer, yeah,
per per hundred hundred mills. And so that's so that's
let's say ten let's say it's ten grams and the
can of beer is what we're saying, which is quite
a lot feel significance because because how many carbs in
a day? I think, I think you know what you want,
two hundred carbs in a day, you know, for a

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healthy for a healthy.

Speaker 25 (49:50):
Dogs, or the dietary guidelines on that one.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
But clearly, I mean clearly dull and more people are
drinking these low carb beers. So are the are the
beer companies pushing towards for lack of a better word,
it's a healthy beer, isn't it. That's what they're trying
to promote here.

Speaker 25 (50:07):
I don't think, you know, making the claim that something's healthy.
It's you know, it's an option that is I mean
better for you if you look at it purely by
the stats.

Speaker 11 (50:16):
Right.

Speaker 25 (50:16):
So the thing is it's driven by the consumer that
they're interested and more options, you know, or you know,
if they're going to continue to have a beer one, not.

Speaker 11 (50:22):
Have one that's got less calories or less carbs in it.

Speaker 25 (50:25):
If they're going to be choosing to be driving or
doing something else, they might have a zero episent bit
And there's more options out there because you know, it's.

Speaker 11 (50:30):
Not that the.

Speaker 25 (50:32):
Producers are going, let's just see if this works. It's
generally driven by what the consumer wants, and we're seeing
huge shift in it. I mean that's an international tread
as well. So there are presents another area which is
really interesting and you guys probably have seen plenty of
those brands have kind of go off for the last
few years.

Speaker 11 (50:46):
So this is just a similar thing.

Speaker 25 (50:47):
People are more interested in wellness, health, different opportunities, and
they're taking these things seriously.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Yes, So go back to my carb or hydrates punishment
that I'm going here. So, you know, people between the
range of two hundred and twenty five and three hundred
and twenty five grams of carbs a day as what
sort of recommended, right and for an average and about
two thousand calories a day. Right. So if you're getting
nine nine grams of carbs per can of beer and

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you're having you know, let's say five beers, then you
know you're getting up there in terms of your you know,
you're eating into your number of carbs for day that
that you that you should be having. You know, I
mean it's complicated because you need fuel in your system,
don't you, And it's probably beer is not the best
way to get the fuel in your system to run
your body actively.

Speaker 25 (51:36):
I think, you know, everyone should just be having a
balanced diet, looking after themselves, a bit of exercise, and
then you know they're treat your body well. So it's
about having options. And you know, while there's you know,
there's full car beers out there as well, which people
are totally enjoying. But that's up to the consumer and
the options there.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
What about the zero percent beers to how are they
low carb just by nature of not having alcohol in
them or is that not how it works?

Speaker 11 (51:58):
Yeah, they generally would have a lower carbohydrate.

Speaker 25 (52:00):
I mean, if you if you're comparing it to a
standard beer, so that's obviously your base level. So when
it says lower carb on a beer, it's usually comparing
to another beer. So yeah, yeah, definitely lock cup products
And yeah, they're deffinitely grown and they're they're not as
big as a segment as you might think, but in
some countries overseas, like Spain's a great example, I mean,
the keen percent of the beer market, So we see
opportunity for kind of growth in there as well, especially

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now that a lot of the zero pcent beers are
getting a lot better.

Speaker 11 (52:26):
They're definitely improves the flavor.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Yeah, all right, well, thank you so much, Dylan, appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
That intel great to chat now' just I've got into
this cup situation as well. So I've just had a
look at the pure blonde how many calories eighty nine
calories for a pure blonde low car beer Steiny one
point thirty two, so it's a good saving on calories. Yeah,
I can effectively have one point five times more pure
blonde than Steinlager and keep the rig that I've currently got.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Yeah, beer math, they'll take a calculator out to the
bar with you and you know, sort out your dietary requirements. Okay,
So we'll come back in a minute with a couple
of calls. Got one from Steve here that says low
card beer changes life. It's an absolute health tonic, So
that should be interesting. Twenty two past two.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty on News Talk.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
V News Talks heid B. Thank you very much for
all the texts coming through about the berth. We're pretty
solid on that. I think we've worked it out. This
one says, guys, the thick all public easily persuaded by advertising.
Low car bear equals absolute crap.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
Okay, there you go. And til'd recently a big drink
and I used to be a white kaddow drinker. At
the heaviest I got up to one hundred and forty
two kg. I started drinking low car beer a little
bit of diet and then dropped so far to one
hundred and twenty two kg and my pre diabetes is gone.
Cheers Shane.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
That's a good effort, twenty kilo just by drinking low
car beer, Yido, Steve Yallo.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Guys, you're a supporter of the low card beers.

Speaker 11 (54:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (54:00):
Well, as I said in my text, that's changed my life, mate.
It's it's one of those things. Drop drop twenty kilows
off the rig and the wife now goes and buys
it for me because it's good for good.

Speaker 16 (54:11):
For my health.

Speaker 3 (54:12):
Yeah, and what's the what's the go to low carb beer?

Speaker 26 (54:17):
I'm a Heineken Silver led a few of the others,
like some of the other brands, but that's that's my
go to mate.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
So your Heineken Silver that's ninety nine percent carbs, three
zero point nine grams of carbs per one hundred millilters
compared to the reginal regular Heineken, which is three point
two grams of carbs per one hundred mils.

Speaker 14 (54:36):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
So you're so you're your partner, she's she's she's put
you on that or did you did you make the
move over yourself?

Speaker 11 (54:44):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (54:45):
I made the move over myself, but she's actively supporting it.

Speaker 16 (54:48):
And when all the boys come around for bruise.

Speaker 26 (54:50):
And barbecues, they've all flipped on to a low carb alternative.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
And as well as low carb, are you doing any
exercise or any other fitness stuff or any dietary stuff
as well?

Speaker 26 (55:02):
Yeah, it's smart as the low carb keeter mgenic.

Speaker 11 (55:05):
Diet we're on. So it's nicely to that.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
So what else goes in with the low carb? Do
you say ketogenic diet?

Speaker 26 (55:12):
Ketogenic? You no sugar, no carbs, so I can still
maintain my healthy first on a Friday and Saturday behind
it the silvers.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, so those one those are a bit of a
cheek because you've got you've got some you got some
sugar and some carbs in there. So you just are
you like, what are you eating for the ketotonic diet?
Are you're like pure meat? What else are you eating?

Speaker 26 (55:36):
So it's all about healthy protein and healthy fats. So
the big mind bean was you've actually got to eat
a lot of fat to take away the appetite, right,
but my scales are looking the best I've locked in
thirty years.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
So what kind of fat are you talking about?

Speaker 17 (55:52):
Oh?

Speaker 26 (55:52):
Just if you're gonna eat a steak, you mars will
eat the better fat around the outside of it. Avocados,
all sort of animal fats are to go. So do
you want to avoid sort of all of the processed
oils but large and beat the way to go, mate,
lots of butter and ghee.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
And how much do you put in your fantastic weight loss,
congratulations on that. How much do you put on the
low car beers? And how much do you put on
the ketogenic diet?

Speaker 11 (56:26):
Well, it sort of goes hand in hand.

Speaker 26 (56:27):
I wouldn't be able to see the kithogenic diet if
I wasn't on low car beer. So so as I say,
it's it's more of a health product, yeahs than beer.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yeah, it's an interesting one though, don't you find? And
I find this that you know, I can hold a
diet and I can be really really you know, well
behaved and do the right thing. Then I'll have a
few beers and then suddenly I really need a burger,
and and then the next day all dietary considerations go
out there go out the window. Did you find that

(56:58):
at all, steep?

Speaker 26 (57:00):
Well, my advice mate is eat the meat and the cheese,
just drop the the bread roll and the fries.

Speaker 3 (57:06):
See it's good advice, but we tried the Kiddo diet.
It was freaking hard, Steve. I mean, I love my
bread and I love my muffins, and you know it's
almost Easter, love my Easter buns.

Speaker 11 (57:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 26 (57:18):
Well, life's all about trade offs and yeah, sometimes you've
got to give up something.

Speaker 11 (57:22):
To achieve things.

Speaker 26 (57:23):
So for me, giving up sugar and carbs was really
the way I went and paying dividends boys, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
And how long have you been running this diet and
this change in your life, Steve.

Speaker 26 (57:36):
Well, I call it more of a lifestyle than a diet.
Ye been doing that for three and a half years.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Oh yep.

Speaker 26 (57:44):
Became slightly more sort of extreme, so only one meal
a day and I've been doing.

Speaker 11 (57:50):
That for twelve months.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Oh brilliant. It's actually a thing that someone told me
that made perfect sense. There's no point in doing a
diet unless you can do it for the rest of
your life. So you have decide what you're going to
do is a change. Yeah, and that is going to
be as you say, your lifestyle. You're now doing that
as opposed to I'm going to do this six weeks
and cut. I'm going to have some crazy soup diet.
I'm only going to do that and then because as

(58:13):
soon as that's over, you just bounce right back. You've
got it, You've got you've got to change for life. Hey,
thanks so much for your call, Steve.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
I'll just quickly, Steve before you shoot off. What do
they call it? When so you're on the Keto diet
but something happens to your body and it starts using
a different type of fuel. There's a word for it.
I just can't recall mertosis katosis? How did you deal
with that? I've heard people, you know, sometimes they get headaches,
they get a bit lethargic. Did you get any of that?

Speaker 27 (58:37):
No?

Speaker 28 (58:38):
And really that's the state that we want to achieve
because that's when your body is then converting its own
overweightness into energy, and that's how you lose weight. And
as soon as you introduce sugar or carbs into your diet,
even if I know now ate three chocolate biscuits, I'd
be out of katosis for probably two days.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Right, I see you're saying, yeah, how's your breath?

Speaker 6 (58:59):
How's your breath?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Famously, people on the Keto diet. Some people on the
Keto diet can get some pretty honk and breath, but
not having to use Steve.

Speaker 11 (59:11):
Well, not that anyone's told me.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Maybe ask your missus just quietly, you know, and keep
the teeth brushing up. Maybe get some listen down there.
All right, I think if you call Steve appreciate it. Hey,
I got I got a question for you, Tyler and
for everyone on nine two nine two. All right, all right,
what country in the world consumes the most beer per capita?

Speaker 3 (59:34):
We must be up there, we must be up there,
But I'm going to give you a different answer here. Yeah,
I'll go Germany.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Okay, well that's your guess. We'll come back to that.
And also secondary question, how where you think New Zealand
sits on it? Okay? Nine nine two? Who drinks the
most beer per capita? And where is New Zealand in
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Speaker 3 (01:01:19):
Thank you very much, Railean. We're talking about low car beer.
It's kind of exploded in terms of beer sales last
year up eighteen percent. That is significant. And so we've
asked the question, is it rarely the healthy option when
it comes to bear drinking?

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
You heine consilvers your export ultras. Okay, before the news
I asked the question which nation consumes the most beer
per capita? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
And then no one got it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Here this text here Japan, Germany and New Zealand, and
that order Ozzie's drink the most beer Aussie. So many
people saying Ossie's Finland. No one's backing US.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Korea, work hard, playhrd. Yeah, they'd be good drinkers, crowns.

Speaker 2 (01:01:57):
Yeah, all right, okay, Well, if no one got it,
it's the Czech Republic in two thousand and twenty four
they consumed one hundred and twenty eight liters per person.
That's not bad. New Zealand we're way down at twenty seven,
absolutely pathetic from New Zealand sixty one liters.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Twenty seven to one hundred and twenty two. We're way
off the mark.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
Yeah, so they're consuming more than twice what we are
in the Czech Republic. Australia, where are they coming in Australia.
They are above us they're at seventeen in the world.
And you've got Germany that everyone was talking up there
they are on fourth. They're way behind. There are whole
thirty liters a year behind. The Czech Republic goes Czech

(01:02:39):
Republic at Austria, Romania, Germany, Poland, Namibia, Well, Namibia. Drinkers Ireland, Spain, Croatia, Latvia, Estonia, Slovenia, Netherlands, Bulgaria, Panama, Slovakia, Australia, Lithuania, Hungary,
United States, Finland, Mexico, United Kingdom, Belgium, then New Zealand

(01:03:01):
all the way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Then, come on, we can't let Europe beat us on
beer drinking. For goodness sake, let's go to the phones.
I think Gary is there. Get Gary there? You go
very good? How are you well?

Speaker 12 (01:03:17):
Beer is a god seen on the type one diabetic
being a Type one for about forty six years, and
I keep very fit. But I enjoy a beer, and
your low carb beers like your Stein Logo Ultra low
carb and all that. I can have a couple of them.

(01:03:41):
I can get one with my tea. I can go
out for the night and I don't drink a lot.
Maybe have a cup two to three and your blood
doesn't actually a thick my blood sugar at all. I
wake up in the morning with a normal blood sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
So the low carb over the zero carb gary. You
still want a bit of a bit of a buzz.

Speaker 12 (01:04:00):
Yes, yes, they've all got about four point two percent.
Only if I got going away for sport and on driving,
then your head to zero because I would get picked
up by a cop or something. But I like the
four point two.

Speaker 11 (01:04:18):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
What what do you you know as a you know,
type one diabetic, what do you have to watch more
calories or carbs?

Speaker 12 (01:04:32):
Calories too seven and carbs. It all comes in that
whatever breaks down sugar. Really, at the end of the day,
you're all a piece of bread or a piece of
bread or will break down the sugar. But I I
do go to out once a week to a meeting
and they don't really have your low carb there there.

Speaker 29 (01:04:54):
I might have a beer of.

Speaker 12 (01:04:57):
A space or something like that. I seem to get
away with it.

Speaker 10 (01:05:00):
But I.

Speaker 12 (01:05:03):
I would say it's safe for having a low carb
beer and then your other stuff. I don't have a
weight problem because I'm quite a fit person, so I
keep quite fit. And yes, I just enjoy a beer.
I shouldn't have a beer of then two glass of wine. Really,
I'm not really a big wine drinker. I send to

(01:05:25):
sit the head boy boys drinking an Almoe red wine
and I have a nice cold pure blonde or something.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
Yeah, you're selling it to me.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
All right, Good on you, Gary, Thank you so much
for your course a text here. See the average beer
is fifteen to sixteen calves, not ten as was stated
just now. Well, hang on a minute. It depends how
big the beer is. So I was talking about a
three point forty mill can of beer. So if we
look at this here, here we go, so three points

(01:05:57):
so currently eight like, so this is stats for a
Heineken silver is zero point nine grams yep, whereas a
regular Heinek and is three point two grams of calves
per one hundred mils. So three point two times three
point four that's just over ten, isn't it? If I
do some basic maths here ten point eight? So but
you know, obviously ten point it'd be about ten point eight.
Someone someone could wok that out for me.

Speaker 11 (01:06:19):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
You've done the mess though, so you calculated it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
But yeah, obviously if it's more than three forty, then
it's going to be more more carbs, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
Yeah, that's that work.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
So that was just on a three forty beer.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
Okay, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call coming up. We're gonna have a chat to
a nutritionist who specializes a low carb who's called up.
So it's going to be interesting. It is twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:44):
Three Mattie Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
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Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
They'd be good afternoon. We're talking about the rise of
low car beer, and a heck of a lot of
tickes have come through.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
I drank low car beer for a few years, but
went back to regular because life's too short to drink
Lion Red. I've got to mate that only ever drinks
line red, only ever has, and only if it always
dresses in full line red gear from top to toe,
real thing, Lion red hat, Lion red T shirt, Lion
red jandles, everything he's got line red branded.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
Even love a beer that much?

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
If you go for a swim with them. He'll pull
out a line that He'll pull it out a line
red towel dedication to the Corse guys. I like a lager, however,
low or no car tastes vile. That's from Kate, like
these studies are getting tiresome. Non alcoholic drinks have more sugar.
I think, well, yeah, I mean that's that. That's one

(01:07:49):
of the big betrayals of my life was that I
always thought that orange juice, and actually I even thought
when I was growing up, was the healthy drink. I
had no idea it was all sugar.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Because it's got oranges and it so you think, hey,
I'm having my fruit, serving a fruit here. Yeah, and
it turns out it's worse than coke.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
I was hanging out with a friend recently and she goes,
I went to eating apple and she has, don't eat that,
and she said apples are basically sweets. Can't eat apples
too sweet. Yeah, anyway, not very scientific that guy. Anyone's
health would improve by substituting whitecatto draft with anything. That's
from data.

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
Wow shots fire people the white carto. How do you
feel about that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Low car beer reduces sugar and take a smarter option
if you need to manage your diet better and continue
having a beer. Diabetics must appreciate the zero point three
gram sugar two. Vodka is the purest spirit and soda
has no sugar, so it is the healthiest of spirit options.
Lime for colors is this texter thought about it? That
was the one I was referring before. It is skinny

(01:08:49):
something skinny Bee? Yeah, lovely givning Bee sheher l you're
a nutritionalist. Your thoughts on low car beers?

Speaker 22 (01:08:56):
Hi, Hi, guys, I'm having a bit of a laugh
as I listened in here looks. I think I just
wanted to share a different perspective about low car beer.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Yeah, and I think I love.

Speaker 22 (01:09:06):
Listening to your caller talking about it from a die
bitter perspective. But I think a really big part of
the reason of why some people are choosing these drinks
is for weight loss. And that's what I wanted to address,
because I think if somebody's goal is weight loss and
they're thinking, right, I'll wat to load card be is
because that's going to be a better option. The problem

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is the alcohol, and that's what I find because a
lot of people I specialize in weight loss, and a
lot of people come to see me and they're drinking
these drinks and it's not helping them. And I think
that's a really, you know, just a good thing to
think about, because yes, you might be reducing cards, but
you're still having the problem when it comes to weight loss,
which is the fact that alcohol is going to slow

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your metabolism down, okay, And I think that's a really
key part to consider because when you drink alcohol, of course,
your liver is going to get busy. It's going to
be processing that alcohol, and in that process it's going
to stop doing other jobs, one of which would be
burning fat. So that's what I said with people who
come to see me, and I sort of explain them, Look,

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even though you know you feel like you're doing a
better thing by reducing the cards, because it's not just
the bear. Of course, there's heats of these lower card
alcohol alternatives, and I'm not saying they're the wrong choice,
But what I see, as someone who's talking to people
all day every day about it, is that when weight
loss is the goal, they're still there. That person is

(01:10:29):
not seeing a better result because they've still got the
alcohol in their system.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
So pure alcohol.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
So you take vodka, is that that's still calories?

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Just if you had vodka and a soda, are you
still getting You're still get calories.

Speaker 22 (01:10:45):
Well, it's going to be the same problem. It's it's
those it's the alcohol. Calories are going to be slowing
your liver down. Can't avoid it. It's literally unfortunately.

Speaker 9 (01:10:55):
There really is no way to avoid that.

Speaker 22 (01:10:58):
And my husband did a really interesting experiment because he,
let's just say, he quite like likes to partake and bear,
you know, most days of the week he'd have a few,
and he did an experiment in dry July, so because
he drinks low tab beers, and I think he thinks
it's going to help him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:14):
But anyway, that's.

Speaker 22 (01:11:16):
Fine, that's fine, that's his thing.

Speaker 6 (01:11:18):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:11:18):
I let him do a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
You don't bring we home.

Speaker 9 (01:11:22):
No, No, definitely not.

Speaker 22 (01:11:23):
We've been married long enough. I know better than that.

Speaker 27 (01:11:26):
You know.

Speaker 22 (01:11:26):
Last last dry July, he swapped to the zero alcohol
beers were quite significantly higher in sugar. So the ones
he was drinking had about fifteen grams of sugar. So
he went from drinking you know, quite a bit of
not quite a bit, but let's just say three or
four a day, maybe a bit more on the weekend,
just swapp into that equivalent amount in the high sugar

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zero alcohol beer. So he was drinking a significant amount
of sugar, which of course concerned me, but hey, it's
an experiment. He's only doing it for a month. The
fascinating thing is he probably needs to lose maybe fifteen kilos,
not a heck of a lot. He lost eight kilos
in a month by doing that, even even though he
was drinking quite a significant amount of sugar calories. So

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I think that's just, you know, it's just a really
interesting experiment to look at how our body can process sugar,
maybe for some people even better than they can alcohol.
So I just, I mean, I find the whole thing
really fascinating.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Sure, there's another part to drinking alcohol and diet and
you know, eating properly that I was talking about before,
is that it all just goes out the window. So
if you have a few beers then and there's a
there's a plate of chips in the on the table
at the bar, you eat all those chips because you're
you're not thinking, you're not thinking about the bigger picture.
You're in that sort of drinking zone of anything goes

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and then the next day you are tired and you
have no you have no resolve the next day. So
I think that that's actually where I love putting on
the way with the drinking.

Speaker 22 (01:12:58):
Yeah, and also remember, because your liver is now being
activated to have to process the alcohol, every other job
gets put on hold, so processing such food that's all
going to be secondary. So yeah, it's not right. And
then the next day, because the alcohol can take up
to two or three days to be fully metabolized and

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process through your system, so in all of that time
that you know, the food that you're eating isn't going
to be process you know, processed as well either. So look,
it's not a great picture. But unfortunately, and again it
comes down to your goals. I don't say to people, oh,
you can't drink, like that's just not that's not how
I work. I say, look, if you choose to, that's fine,

(01:13:39):
But unfortunately you've got to accept the consequences. And again
it just comes down to what what what's your goal?

Speaker 17 (01:13:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, yeah, Well I feel like I'm a bath with
the plug open and the and the taps running, you know,
like so I enjoy a drink, so that's going in
and I enjoy some food, and then I'm going to
the gym and I'm working out, and I kind of
have a concern that maybe, you know, going hard at
the gym and also doing these other things and trying
to do it is actually terrible stress on your body

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if you're trying to be fit at the same time
as you're still drinking, eating too much.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
So you can have a low car beer, You've just
got to be honest about yourself and say that it's
not healthy and you smashing the chips and you're going
to be a little bit hungover, so it's fair. Yea, yeah, And.

Speaker 22 (01:14:25):
Look, yeah it was. It's not like I don't encourage
people to drink, but what I do stay to clients
who like to drink, I say to them, look, it's
just my take. Rather than trying to make something we
do drinking for pleasure, right, rather than trying to make
that healthy, Why don't we just drink what we really enjoyed,
but don't do it as often, you know, like, just

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choose your moment, have that drink that you really enjoy
that's going to give you the pleasure you're seeking because
it isn't it's an emotional need or whatever it might
be for a person, rather than saying, hey, I'm going
to make this healthy so I can do it more often,
when actually it's possibly not like just pick your fun,
pick your poison, enjoy it, but just let's dare old

(01:15:07):
beare I say it, bring a bit of self discipline
in there, but just not do it as often. And
when you do, you blim and well enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
You're great, shil join it, yeah too, right? Do you
want to give a week shout out to where you
work and if people want to get hold of you?

Speaker 22 (01:15:22):
Oh, thank you you Well, I'm based in Auckland. My
business is called Why Weight Academy and it's w E
I G HD because I so I'm all about weight
loss and just helping people find good solutions that actually work.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Oh, thank you so much for your call, Cheryl, appreciate it.
Oh I cut her off. Yeah there you go, Sorry, Cheryl,
thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (01:15:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:15:41):
I appreciated her. Thank you to our thank you. You
know it's a great cool But yeah, I think I
think that potentially what's going on is, you know, like
you have the low carbia so you feel good like
you're doing something.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
A little bit pious, that you're doing something healthy when
we know you're not.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
Really, You're just doing what you want to do, the
issues that affect you, and a bit of fun along
the way.

Speaker 1 (01:16:01):
Matt and Taylor Afternoons with the Volvo x C ninety innovation,
style and design have it all youth talk.

Speaker 3 (01:16:10):
News talk zed. But you hope you're having a great
Friday afternoon and it's been a great chat about low
car beer and fantastic to hear from Nutrition's Sheerl which
basically said, well, I think most of us know that
you can have a low cut beer, but she ain't healthy.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
This is a good text here. The diet doesn't need
a name, just eat real foods, the whole food diet.
And you know how sometimes you hear a word your
whole life and you're too dumb to work out it
what means. Yeah, I just worked out the other day
was in a run our ant a whole food So
that means stuff that doesn't been processed or cut up,
like you can have your you have your steak and
your potato and your whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Yeah, but it's just whole food as it is created.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
You know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I've
never thought about it as opposed to you know, a
potato is supposed as opposed to potato chips, you know
what I mean, a steak as opposed to a I
don't know, something mixed.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Up and steak flavored chips. Yeah, I mean, there's a
lot of chip analogies.

Speaker 2 (01:17:03):
But everything, everything that's that there's whole and real and
as God intended you or killers. That's because that's one
of the sixties people had like they had big breakfast,
they had morning tea, they had lunched that afternoon tea,
and then they had dinner yep, and then then they
had some tea and cookies. It's for bed. And but

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most of those foods through the day were whole, whole foods.
There were a bit of meat and vegetables on a
plate and that was great.

Speaker 30 (01:17:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Also they did a lot more walking around the stuff.
And now I think about my theory. The biscuits weren't
were processed, and so it was so it was the cake.

Speaker 3 (01:17:38):
And they always had putting. There was always putting, always putting.
They ate so much more than us, my grandparents. If
there was no pudding. Granddad would lose it right. Good discussion,
Thank you very much. Coming up after three o'clock. It
is the Happy Hour four of Friday, so we've got
topical tunes coming up. Then we have the New Zealand

(01:17:58):
of the Week, and also we're going to be chatting to.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Acc hed g Lane who's live on the ground hopefully
still alive on the ground in Las Vegas for the
NRL Round one. He'll be looking out for warriors misbehaving
around the city, so we'll go live over there in
just a few minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
Very good news, sport and weather on its way, great
devy company. As always, you're listening to Matt and Tyler.
Good afternoon.

Speaker 6 (01:18:39):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons with the Volvo
X ninety News Talk said.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Good afternoon to you. Happy Friday. I hope you're having
a great day. We certainly are coming up very soon
topical tunes and New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Yeah, but right now we are joined by acc here
g Lane on the ground in Las Vegas ahead of
the NRL opening round in Sin City. G Lane, welcome
to the show. Are you seeing a League vibe in
Vegas afternoon.

Speaker 29 (01:19:14):
Gents, listen. I presumed that League fans and Warriors fans
were just would just assimilate into the chaos that is
Vegas and you wouldn't really notice them. But they are everywhere.

Speaker 6 (01:19:27):
Everywhere you look.

Speaker 29 (01:19:28):
There is Warriors fans everywhere. There's Kiwi lizards left, right
and center, all in the merch. I got yelled at
for not wearing merch this morning. It's pretty it's pretty
cool to see actually.

Speaker 11 (01:19:41):
And everyone.

Speaker 29 (01:19:42):
I think the park in GM is basically floor to
ceiling Warriors fans. They're out in the street drink.

Speaker 5 (01:19:49):
And they're loving it.

Speaker 29 (01:19:50):
You can walk around with a leader can and just
walk into a bar and drink of it.

Speaker 11 (01:19:54):
It's my Wi. I'm not coming home.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
So you're seeing a lot more Warriors' shirts and Raiders
Panthers or Shark shirts.

Speaker 29 (01:20:05):
I can't say I've seen a Raiders. I have not
seen one. I think I've seen one tens of top,
but the rest of them, it's just bas city. It's hilarious.
It is very hilarious. It's dangerously confusing for the locals too,
because they have no idea what this says and what's
going on. It's just heaps of heavily tattooed Warriors fans

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necking a lot of beers in the streets. It's beautiful.
Bring the tear in my eye.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
Any idea where the Warriors are locked up to keep
them out of trouble, Well they are.

Speaker 29 (01:20:36):
We're going to an ice hockey game at t Mobile.
We're going it's the Golden Knights versus the black Hawks
here and I believe they've been hooked up by Bill Foley,
who owns Aukland, their cea as well. He also owns
the Golden Knights. I believe they're all attending the ice
hockey game tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:20:52):
Okay, so watch a bit of that.

Speaker 29 (01:20:54):
So that's that's safe.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Buses leave the hotel, counting buddies in the buses into
the ice hockey, away from the Bears, straight into the bars,
and then locked in their rooms overnight.

Speaker 29 (01:21:06):
I cannot believe that they managed to this off last
year with no headlines. It's just temptation everywhere here in Vegas.
So I've made it so well last year to keep
that under wraps. Obviously, the sight in the elevator this year, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
It sounds like so sorry, Mike jumping there. It sounds
like for a lot of the Kiwi fans, it might
be like a lot of Las Vegas trips. They're going
hard or night one and maybe a little bit dusty
by time the game rolls around.

Speaker 29 (01:21:34):
I'll tell you what. I bumped into Ben Hurley earlier,
and he's given his soul to Vegas rip.

Speaker 11 (01:21:42):
Ben Hurley, he.

Speaker 29 (01:21:43):
Had a big night yesterday, big day use today and
he didn't leave his hotel room un till three o'clock
in the afternoon. He couldn't face the world, the poor guy.
So yeah, I think people, if they get it out
of the system, now we've got another night and then
we've got the league. Yeah, so I think first night,
first night fever's acceptable because he's got a whole day
to recover before heading before heading the stadium on SETNI.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Yeah, Well, I got seen a picture about three hours
ago from my mother in law who was dancing into
wagon Wheel somewhere in Las Vegas.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Good night for the mother in law.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
She found a cover span playing Wagons wagon Wheel. So
she's going hard. So you've got the camp, You've got
the Raiders and the Warriors, and you've got the Panthers
and You've got the Sharks, then you've got the Wigan
Warriors and the Warrington Wolves. I mean this is something
we haven't heard of it, and you've got the Jilla
Ruez versus the England women's team. Are you going to
make it all the way to the end to watch
the Australian No, you know you're going to watch the Panthers.

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Just are you warriors, raiders and out?

Speaker 11 (01:22:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 29 (01:22:40):
I'm Warriors and raiders out afraid. I've come to Vegas
with a with a mission and that mission includes not
spending nine hours watching rugby league at the stadium.

Speaker 11 (01:22:51):
But I am.

Speaker 29 (01:22:51):
I'm there for the Warriors. Martin fires in town, the
Chariot Chariot so Fire, the legendary Wigan rugby league player
Freano Botica is here as well.

Speaker 11 (01:23:01):
Wow, there's a lot of old.

Speaker 29 (01:23:03):
Leagues and Gordon tallis almost gotten Fister cups with Brodie
Kane last night in the bar as well.

Speaker 3 (01:23:10):
Hell of a story.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Okay, Well, thank you for talking to us, Gulane appreciate it.
And just before we go, can I say just get
out now. Nothing good happened from Vegas. Turn around, get
on a plane, go home and hug your family.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
Wise advice.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
Get out now too late.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
Nothing good's going to happen from now on, all right, okay.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Enjoy right, it's going to be a hell of a
weekend there for g Lane and the thousands of Kiwis
it appears that are in Las Vegas right now, confusing
the locals.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
We always win the merch battle. When it comes to
the Magic Ground or any kind of any kind of
rugby league, the warrior has always won the merch battle. Actually,
now thinking about it, because I've sworn I'll never go
to Vegas again.

Speaker 6 (01:23:53):
Never.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
I've been four times, and the last time I was
there for five days and it was too long, so
I swore as I was never going to again. So
I waits hundred and eighty ten eighty nine to nine two.
We want to hear your Vegas stories, Yes we do,
and how much here some of mine. But I'm never
going to go back. I don't care. I don't care
what's in there. I don't care if my beloved warriors playing.
I'm never going back to Vegas. The last time, when

(01:24:15):
I was leaving, I was at the airport and I said, never,
never again. It's going to happen.

Speaker 6 (01:24:20):
We'll get your bag.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Yeah, nineteen nine, two eight, one hundred and eighty, teen
eighty Your Vegas Stories, New Zealander of the Week up next.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Yeah, twelve past three, good afternoon call to pass three
and we've asked the question we want to hear from you,
your lost Vegas stories. It's all kicking off in Vegas
at the moment. Hit of the Warrior is v Raiders
game on Sunday.

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
It all starts out well in Vegas. You know, we've
seen the Hangover movies, et cetera. It all starts out well.
Everyone has bad intentions. It should be honest, and I
say good intentions.

Speaker 3 (01:24:49):
Well, there's a lot of there's I hope in the
first day.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Yeah, there is, But after three days in Vegas, definitely
don't do them more than three days. Yeah, yeah, Day
four and five are not good. Scott, welcome to show.
You've been to Vegas.

Speaker 16 (01:25:06):
Yeah, several times. Yeah, I think you're right. It's been
too long in Vegas. I probably pushed it out for
four days maybe for the first time, but the first
time I was there was on Kentucky when I was
maybe twenty two, and it's a pretty good place to
spend for the time when you're there in Kentucky. But
it's quite quite a good story.

Speaker 23 (01:25:26):
Really.

Speaker 7 (01:25:26):
It's bad.

Speaker 16 (01:25:27):
Happened where we'd been up for about thirty six hours
and we're all hanging out in there the hotel Stifel,
and for some reason I thought it would be great
id here to steak out show down the road and
get like half a leader a dishwashing work with. Yeah,
nobody knew about her. I just got back and handed
up a poker, just slowly like leashed it out, and

(01:25:48):
the holy show, the parently just got so much better
from then on.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
What did you do with the dishwashing liquid?

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Back in the Spy Going the.

Speaker 29 (01:25:55):
Spy twenty people were awesome, that's a bubble.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
Bath, that's a that's a phone that tenor phone party.

Speaker 16 (01:26:07):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it was growing. Apparently they had to
drain it twice to get all the.

Speaker 5 (01:26:13):
Anyway.

Speaker 16 (01:26:14):
So we decided for out forty so it'd all go
back there. So we all turned forty in twenty twenty,
which you could imagine that party got put on old.
So we're all heading back in August this year for
a forty first.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
Oh wow, so you're going back.

Speaker 23 (01:26:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:26:29):
The Kentucky crew just my like group of friends out.
But yeah, so we go back to August.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Good on you, right, and so that'll be your that'll
be which what number trip to Vegas for you there, Scott?

Speaker 16 (01:26:40):
The third time? What some of my friends got burried
do as well?

Speaker 6 (01:26:43):
For so?

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Well you love Vegas?

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Yeah, you love it?

Speaker 16 (01:26:48):
Great first last for grown ups or not quite ground ups.

Speaker 3 (01:26:52):
Yeah yeah, yeah, as long as you've got a couple
of years just to rebuild your soul and the bank
balance and everything else about your that you know you
as a human, then it's okay to go back and
just damage it all again.

Speaker 16 (01:27:03):
Yeah it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Yeah, well thanks for that, Scott. You don't see the
whole some side of life. You don't see. You know
what amazes you in Vegas is there's there's there's the
odd ro tond person. But you know, because you never
know what time it is in Vegas. So you get
up and then there's someone eating a like a pizza
for breakfast. There's someone at the buffet just piling so

(01:27:28):
much stuff onto their plate that you can't believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:27:30):
Great buffets.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
Yeah, you don't know what time it is, they don't care.
They're having soda for for for breakfast. It's how exciting.
Just one question, how come all these Warriors fans thousands
can afford to go when many New Zealanders are struggling. Well, well,
I guess that they can afford to go. They can
afford to go, and good on them.

Speaker 3 (01:27:48):
Ye saved up for the party of a lifetime.

Speaker 2 (01:27:50):
A lot of people work really hard and have the
money to go and do things like that, so bloody
good on them. And it's you may never see the
Warriors in Vegas again.

Speaker 3 (01:27:57):
Yep, this one sees good. Guys. My mate had his
basty a day in Vegas. Is He left me at
the black jack table and an hour later I went
back to the room and he had a six foot
blonde stunner who it's not hired, as he told us lots.
He has never chatted a girl up in his life,
but met this girl and had some good times within
an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Okay, all right. I wonder if they got married and
had was that a lifetime story? I think they're still
together now. I was in downtown Old Vegas on Super
Bowl Sunday night a few weeks ago. Every time I
thought I'd seen all that I could possibly see, I'd
turn around and see something new that would make your
my mind blow good times. Yeah, Old Vegas is really cool. Yeah,

(01:28:40):
Old Vegas is very very stylish and very cool.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Love to hear your Vegas stories, even if they are
kind of PG stories. If you're onto the Grand Canyon.
Did you take the family to Las Vegas?

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
I shot some guns in Vegas one time. That was
That was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
What kind of guns?

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Well, all kinds of guns, all kinds of guns. You
know you can you can? Yeah, it's good time.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
You had a bazooka.

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
I didn't have a berzuoker.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Yeah, I didn't go there far good.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Nothing massively explosive, but you know, AK forty seven and such.
It was a good time. Block block Block was fun.

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Clock would have been fun. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call twenty past three and
the phone lines of let ups, so we'll get to
more of your phone call surely.

Speaker 6 (01:29:28):
Mad Heathen Tyler Adams.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty on Youth
Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Good afternoon twenty two pass three and getting some great
stories about those who have visited Las Vegas hell of
a city.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
I was saying before that I'm never going again. I've
been four times and the fourth time was one time
too many. Andrew, you've been eight times?

Speaker 16 (01:29:51):
Yeah, eight times in going back in October.

Speaker 3 (01:29:53):
Oh sucker for punishment?

Speaker 10 (01:29:55):
You love it?

Speaker 6 (01:29:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:29:57):
Yeah, Well Fremont Street on Halloween is one of.

Speaker 12 (01:30:00):
The best experiences in your life, man Fredmont Street.

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
That was that old Vegas, Old Vegas.

Speaker 6 (01:30:07):
That's the one with the zip line.

Speaker 11 (01:30:08):
Yeah, big screens.

Speaker 21 (01:30:09):
Over last year we went for four and a half
weeks for the World Series of Poker.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
Oh right. Are you a poker player yourself?

Speaker 17 (01:30:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:30:18):
Yeah, that's why we go to Vegas.

Speaker 6 (01:30:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:30:20):
I think it's a little bit different when when when
you when you're there to play and then to have
some fun.

Speaker 6 (01:30:25):
That's that's different.

Speaker 16 (01:30:26):
What you're talking about getting hammered.

Speaker 11 (01:30:30):
I don't do that that often.

Speaker 2 (01:30:31):
Yeah, you've got to focus. It sounds like you've got
a reason to be there. So are you a resentably
successful poker play and I.

Speaker 26 (01:30:39):
Realized after playing in the World Series that I wasn't
going to be a professional poker player.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
Yeah, what does it take to play in the World Series?
Do you have to you know win the regional contact.
Does that work?

Speaker 26 (01:30:51):
Just money ten grand us into the main event, ten grand,
one grand for just about.

Speaker 11 (01:30:58):
All the other tournaments. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:00):
Do they bring you all the dreams you can manage
if you want.

Speaker 13 (01:31:04):
Uh.

Speaker 29 (01:31:05):
At the casinos they do.

Speaker 16 (01:31:07):
And that's why we way, we've never bought a drink
in Vegas ever.

Speaker 11 (01:31:13):
Just pay a dollar.

Speaker 29 (01:31:14):
We call them strip of dollars.

Speaker 11 (01:31:17):
Do you get?

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Have you been led back to the table, you know,
where you're trying to leave and then someone comes over
and says, would you like some few drinks? Somebody to
sit back down?

Speaker 16 (01:31:27):
That does happen? Yep, that does happen, And you realize, hey,
I'm the mug on this table.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
I thank you so much. If you call Andrew, Yeah,
I mean, if you're over there for a focus and sure,
I mean. And there's people that live in suburban Vegas.
That's the really interesting thing. When you go over there,
you fly over it and and you look out and
you go, oh, there's people that would never go down
to the strip. Like you know, if you live in
Auckland City, you may never go down to Queen Street,
you may never go down to the Viaduct. It's just
huge sprawling suburban Vegas, which you know, wholesome families living

(01:31:57):
their lives. Mark Wahlberg just moved there, I believe. Yeah,
and there's people that live there and apparently fantastic low
and they just never have anything to do with the
whole sin city part of it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:06):
Linda, how are you the the noon.

Speaker 9 (01:32:09):
Yes, we've been to Vegas twice.

Speaker 31 (01:32:12):
The first time I was in nineteen to ninety five
on our way home from the Rugby World Cup in
South Africa. So we went there specifically to do the
Grand Canyon, so we did the fly drive. But the
amazing thing is the influx on the weekend, likes of
we were going on a weekday and you know there's

(01:32:32):
strip trolley and you'd go out and there'd be might
be half a dozen people waiting and Charlie's come out,
come along half empty. You come to the weekend, We
walked out. The que must have been about two hundred
people long. And the strip trolley when it came along
with looting chocoer.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
So that's just people flying in from around America, I guess,
and driving in for Los Angeles.

Speaker 31 (01:32:54):
Yeah, and we were actually we did a show and
we got talking to these people. They were Mexicans, and
it says, ah, how was your weekend? And they said
it was quite a good one because I'd only lost
four thousand this particular weekend, so they bought the good weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Did you go to any shows, Linda, because that's one
part of what we haven't talked about. There's fantastic entertainment in.

Speaker 31 (01:33:13):
Vegas, y, Yeah, entertainment. And the one at Treasure Island,
I don't know if it's still there where they used
to have the fight and the ships blow up and
then they done.

Speaker 9 (01:33:27):
But I think that might have closed up.

Speaker 12 (01:33:29):
Yeah, but the amazing thing we were.

Speaker 31 (01:33:32):
Back in ninety nine was the casinos that had gone
up in that time. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Yeah, they've gone up and they go down. I think
the Tropican has just been blowing up, hasn't it. And
I've stayed in that one.

Speaker 6 (01:33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
It goes up and goes down. It's always changing Vegas.
Thank you for your call, Linda. I went to the
one at Camelot where it was swords and sandals but
no knives and forks. You know, the one from Demolition
Man with the on the horses, the jousting and stuff. Yes,
and that you know you're in the theater of about
five thousand people and everyone gets served a chicken that
you have to eat with your hands, like a full chicken. Yeah,

(01:34:04):
it's a poultry side mate, full poultry side.

Speaker 3 (01:34:07):
Love that a few techs coming in. Guys absolutely love Vegas.
We have been four times, including taking my daughter when
she was eight and then again when she was seventeen.
Vegas is for everyone. It's what you make of it.
Last time we went for seven days. Prior it was
four to five day trips. Highly recommended.

Speaker 2 (01:34:24):
Yeah, taking your family. There's lots of wholesome stuff to do.
There's lots of shows to go to. There's a sort
of a Disneyland side to it as well, and there's
stuff to go out and visit and see and have
you head out to the Grand Canyon or whatever. It's
not all the kind of stuff that Glane's getting upset.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
No, is there much more than the g Lane though.
I mean, obviously it's this crazy sitting in the middle
of the desert. You've got the Grand Canyon.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
I mean, there's a few things to do nature wise,
isn't there minimal? But there's some stuff, you know, and
you're close to other states as well. And you can
go out. I went out somewhere and swum in the
where they shot the first plan of the apes. You know,
you can get out and have a look around. Not
so far from there. But there's a lot just built
to do, you know, because it's not just party people

(01:35:07):
could families down there. As I say, yeah, yeah, so
I mean I've I've probably just party too hard there.
I needed to have a more wholesome time there, you know, Okay, and.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
You reckon you're not going back? Lies, absolute lies. One
more teakes to wrap it up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Fourth time in Vegas, three of us got upgraded to
fifty fourth floor penthouse strength more than a human should,
ended up at an Ossie minus stage do stag Doo
in the Sweet next Door in New Zealand, won the
boat races with tequila, beer and whiskey. Thought I was
going to die the next day, never ever, ever, ever
ever going back again. But still a great life experience.

(01:35:43):
That's from Ato.

Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Yeah yeah, nice, nicely, good way to finish, right, that
is that, Thank you very much. Headlines coming up then,
New Zealander of the week. It is twenty eight past three.

Speaker 6 (01:36:02):
US talk said the headlines.

Speaker 19 (01:36:04):
With Blue Bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble.
ARMAC chief executive Sarah Fitt has resigned after seven years
as the boss of the government's drug buying agency. Fitt
was appointed in twenty eighteen after years as farmac's director
of operations. Facardi Management Limited successfully appealed its conviction over

(01:36:25):
the twenty nineteen White Island volcanic eruption that killed twenty
two people. It was found guilty in twenty twenty three
of breaching health and safety obligations. TV and za's reporting
a first half operating profit of eleven point eight million
dollars after millions of dollars of cutbacks, but the state
owned broadcaster still expects to make an operational loss for

(01:36:48):
the year due to tough economic conditions. OUKLA Minister Simon
Brown has welcomed the confirmed speed limit changes on local
roads in the city. The changes include returning local streets
from thirty kilometers an hour to fifty, with some variations
around schools. Hailed for his You Wants to Performances, Hollywood

(01:37:10):
remembers Gene Hackman, the consummate Everyman. You can see the
full story at Nzen Herald Premium. Now back to Matt
Ethan Tyler Adams.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Every Friday on Matt and Tyler afternoons on ZEDB we
name the New Zealander of the Week in honor that
we bestow on your behalf to a newsmaker has had
an outsized effect on our great and beautiful nation over
the previous week. As always, there will be three nominees
but only one winner, So without further ado, the nominees are.
Nominee one also gets the Good Behavior Award. The New

(01:37:43):
Zealand Warriors kick off their season on Sunday, our time
in Las Vegas, and unlike two members of the Raiders
who immediately got into a fight while checking into their hotel,
the Warriors have been on their best behavior for not
doing anything humiliating in the city of Sin Yet. The
New Zealand Warriors, you have been nominated for New Zealander.

Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
Of the Week. Good Epic Boys so far.

Speaker 2 (01:38:04):
Nominee two also receives the Wolf from Pop Fiction Problem
Solving Award. This is a self saucer, but I think
it's important to reward good deeds where and where you
see them. When catastrophe hits, great New Zealanders step up
and run into harm's way to help I spilled a
coffee into the console a few days ago. You might
have heard about it, and three gentlemen ran in and
saved the Mike Costing Memorial Studio with no concern for

(01:38:26):
their own safety for cleaning up my horrific spill ed
Chris and Richie, you are nominated for New Zealander of
the Week regens all right, there can be only one,
and the winner is and the winner also receives the
Economic Backbone Award. One's already twenty four percent of our
earnings and is expected to add an additional four billion

(01:38:46):
to the economy this year. The others bring in seven
billion with only eighty five percent of pre COVID visitors,
dairy and tourism, you little beauties. Without you, we would
be completely and utterly rooted. You are the Matt and
Tyler Afternoons New Zealanders of the Week, whe editing. You

(01:39:08):
milk them cows and milk them taurists. New Zealands, milk
them to economic recovery. Congratulations the heaven that tastes a
kiw God bless and godspeed.

Speaker 6 (01:39:32):
And Taylor Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:39:34):
Well deserved winner as always for New Zealander of the Week.
Right It is time for topical tunes. It's the game
we play each Friday afternoon. We're mat Night. Each pick
a song related to a theme of the week. The
first to three votes via phone takes it out. O
one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

(01:39:56):
Just stand by because we're going to play a little
bit of each of our songs very shortly. You took
it out last week? Does that mean you go first?

Speaker 17 (01:40:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
I think it is. I think it's the winner goes first.

Speaker 11 (01:40:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
And my song's Fantastics from my favorite album at the
moment that I'm listening to on a repeat. But it's
very topical because wine sales are down in New Zealand,
but beer sales are up. So here's my tune from
post Malone.

Speaker 32 (01:40:26):
Absolute chosually topical with the rise of low car beers
that we talked about.

Speaker 3 (01:40:32):
For an hour inter a seen you week for today's topic.
That's good. I don't think that's been done before. Great shune.
Post Malone is an amazing singer, all right, human than
Carl and Mandane tune alright, a right hued, alright my too,
my two cut off cutoff.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Post eight nine two somebody paw me you drink.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Very nicely done right. There was a bit of chat
about rescue copp choppers and PLBs and not rescuing dogs,
and we found out that mostly they're going to pick
up your doggie if you're in the back country and
you need a risk. But a song that was written
about his beloved Labrador retriever is a song by none
other than Paul McCartney and Wings. It's called Jets.

Speaker 2 (01:41:20):
Tuned Very good Tyler Jet. This is so fantastic. It
mount smart a few years ago when Pau McCarty was
over here.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
What a tune.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
There's so many great pits of the song.

Speaker 3 (01:41:35):
Change all right, say alright, so is it going to
be Post Malone or Paul McCartney and Wings.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
The lines are drawn, But look at us Friday, so
surely people will be voting for poor me a drink.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you want
to text through, you're more than welcome. We don't count
them as officially as a vote, but we like to
see who you're going to go for. Nine two ninety two.
But oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.
It is twenty three to four.

Speaker 1 (01:42:06):
Your new home of Afternoon until Matt and Taylor Afternoon
with the Volvo XC ninety turn every journey into something special.

Speaker 6 (01:42:14):
Call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk Sai'd be good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
It is time for topical tunes, where Matt and I
each pegg a song related to a theme of the week.

Speaker 2 (01:42:23):
Yeah, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call and pick with. You want my song about an
increase of beer sales in this country, especially locr beers.
This one from Post Malone.

Speaker 33 (01:42:36):
Wholly Aer Absolute tune on Absolute Tune for a Friday.

Speaker 3 (01:42:52):
Absolutely crank that up Andrew far right. That is blasting
the ear drums. But a good tune, okay me? Today
a lot of talk about rescue helicopters and dogs, so
I picked a great song by Paul McCartney about his
beloved Labrador retriever called Chit.

Speaker 17 (01:43:13):
Helicopter.

Speaker 2 (01:43:16):
It feels a little bit off topic that eighteen eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:43:18):
Who's gonna be alright, let's get into it, James, good afternoon.

Speaker 12 (01:43:25):
I suppose I shouldn't go with Port McCartney, but I won't.

Speaker 23 (01:43:29):
Oh James, it's Friday, after that.

Speaker 17 (01:43:33):
Hell, let's go for it. Let's go and drink, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
James, not expect that from you. Man. One for me.

Speaker 2 (01:43:39):
It's the best. It's the first of three, right, the
best of first of three.

Speaker 3 (01:43:43):
Yeah, I'm sorry I got so upset, but I just
thought James would do the right thing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
There you drink somebody bummy your smoke, Donna, welcome to
the show.

Speaker 9 (01:43:54):
Hello, how you going?

Speaker 6 (01:43:55):
Very very good?

Speaker 2 (01:43:56):
Better since you have called it it?

Speaker 22 (01:44:00):
No you both treat songs, but definitely post alone.

Speaker 2 (01:44:07):
Somebody poor a drink?

Speaker 3 (01:44:09):
What is going on? Thank you?

Speaker 22 (01:44:11):
I like you.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
I'm sure you're lovely, but what is going on? It
is going on?

Speaker 9 (01:44:15):
Who know?

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (01:44:16):
You know been a long week. People have been working hard,
you know. Okay, second James of the voting, Jack are
your mate?

Speaker 22 (01:44:27):
Not too bad?

Speaker 31 (01:44:28):
Definitely.

Speaker 23 (01:44:29):
Paul McCartney, good beauty, he's.

Speaker 6 (01:44:31):
On the board.

Speaker 2 (01:44:32):
Okay to one. All right, okay, I'm starting to get
niver say oh you sorry, sorry James, you go what
were you going to say?

Speaker 22 (01:44:39):
No, it's the saying thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
Okay, thank you, James. No, man, have a great week,
and I thank you. I don't know why. I don't
know anyone to vote.

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
For Paul McCartney. He's on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Okay, Louise, welcome to the show. Is that Pour Me
a Drink?

Speaker 15 (01:44:56):
It's gonna be Paul McCartney.

Speaker 23 (01:44:59):
Yes, Louise, you don't tight it up.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
You're not feeling thirsty at all, Louise.

Speaker 9 (01:45:03):
No, it's a wonderful song about it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
Yeah, as.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
It is a great song. It's a great song. Thank
you for your call.

Speaker 3 (01:45:12):
So the next one takes it out.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
Okay, Okay, here we go, Philip, Welcome to Matt and
Tyler afternoons on ZIB we're playing topical tunes. You have
the deciding vote. Is it post Malone, pour Me a Drink?
Or paor McCartney and Jet and the Wings with Jet?

Speaker 8 (01:45:33):
Well, I love my beer too much, right but unfortunately, Matt,
I love the Dogs and I love Paul McCartney, and
that's one of my favorite songs yet.

Speaker 12 (01:45:44):
So I'm saving your Tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
You're in where you go all right? Well, Philip, I
still love you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:51):
Thank you, right crank it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Imagine if they voted the right way, come back kids,
and right now we'll be listening to Pour Me a Drink,
piping us up for the weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
It could have been so beautiful, mate, Crank it.

Speaker 6 (01:46:23):
I almost remembered of love.

Speaker 23 (01:46:29):
That's dot you don't be married, and.

Speaker 2 (01:46:36):
Ja, I'm the boy only.

Speaker 23 (01:46:43):
Was on the move, but your father was ballers as
m telling you that you want to be older though,

(01:47:05):
and Ja, I bound to major.

Speaker 26 (01:47:12):
J Cha.

Speaker 23 (01:47:17):
Cha amaza.

Speaker 30 (01:47:24):
Won gentle mistiness me amaza your gentle alwaises.

Speaker 23 (01:47:35):
Me amaza.

Speaker 27 (01:47:40):
Chada, I'm cha, I'm the major Shoberry.

Speaker 30 (01:48:20):
The malways love me meta wajah love me me time.

Speaker 27 (01:48:39):
Change.

Speaker 23 (01:48:46):
This is.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
Jack were the wading your were other dos Ba said,
come on game, we'll do all right.

Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
In the j oh.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Oh well, well wow, what a soul can.

Speaker 2 (01:49:54):
We have too? The results because my big sister Catherine
just texted her through and she chose post maline.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Show me the teat. I don't believe it really did.

Speaker 2 (01:50:02):
She actually is my sister, So does that count post
malone on concert a win to oh well loveky Well,
that is credibility.

Speaker 23 (01:50:15):
I'm allowed.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
I'll allow a little bit of it, right, just give
a taste were to challenge.

Speaker 34 (01:50:24):
I mean, y'all, how it goes? When Friday sim even
think I can here and call him Monday, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:50:41):
All right, day we go very fantastic weekend whatever you're
up to and we will see you on Monday, and hey,
give him.

Speaker 6 (01:50:49):
A taste of key.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
We hang on a minute, where you go. We've still
got Darcy Water Crave to chet too. We've got the
top three to watch of the weekend, so that's coming
up very shortly. Hell you might.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
I'm first.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
You're gonna have a drink. Can you pull me one
as well? Just wait outside twelve to twelve to four.
We may or may not see you.

Speaker 1 (01:51:09):
Be of the the big stories, the big issues, the
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Speaker 6 (01:51:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:51:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Wheels are falling off, Tyler, certainly, you know, I think
I think the show's over fifteen minutes early. You're talking
over advertisements. But one person that will put it back
on track. At least you're the got wheels. It's the
great Darcy Water Grave.

Speaker 7 (01:51:40):
Yeah, I thank you very much, Great Matt Heath, oh
and even greater Tyler, even greater.

Speaker 3 (01:51:46):
Why am I here?

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
You're going to talk about wheels are falling off completely?

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
You're going to save mate, because you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
For the weekend the three must watch Smike Fixed.

Speaker 7 (01:51:55):
So I'm trying to work out I'm going to have
to go Marta two because the chess MANU hosting Marty
two that's coming up tomorrow afternoon two being teen and
I follow looking forward to the start of Opicky again.
It's of course women's Super Rugby. It is different rugby.
It's not the brutal rugby you get with the meme
where they insist on running straight into each other. They

(01:52:15):
understand avoidance, although the props and the locks do like
a lot of physical contact. We know this, but it's
the start of that competition. And you might be interested
in the Blues heading down to Willington to face the Power,
but I'll be watching chesse Monoe up against Marta II
as far as Super Rugby is concerned. Wow, who doesn't
want to watch the Blues and the Hurricanes smashing each other?

Speaker 17 (01:52:35):
Are you?

Speaker 7 (01:52:35):
This is because the Blues are in a situation now
losing two on the balance, which you wouldn't believe, and
in both of those games they got set on their asses.

Speaker 12 (01:52:44):
Excuse my friends.

Speaker 7 (01:52:45):
In the last forteen minutes, stern Vern would be more
than Stern. He'd be apoplectic vern if there's such a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
And not easy playing Hurricanes at home.

Speaker 6 (01:52:54):
No, it's not.

Speaker 7 (01:52:55):
But the Hurricanes, for me, they look at this and think, Okay,
this is a Blues team down on there, like we
are playing at home.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
Oh so I don't know which way is it going
to go.

Speaker 7 (01:53:06):
I'm presuming that the team that actually understan the concept
of defense may actually may actually when there's gaylight, make
it tackles. I know, we love a grand, expensive game
and it's all well and good, but they're never on
the northern hemispheres going you wait till you come over
here and you can't take away. They got a yeah anyway,
So that's it. And the last one, well, you know

(01:53:28):
when a question always the big question. One o'clock on
a Sunday night, Sunday afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:53:32):
Sorry, is it there? Year?

Speaker 6 (01:53:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
The Warriors Raiders up.

Speaker 7 (01:53:36):
Against the Raiders. If there's any Raiders left, if they're
not being shot at by the Las Vegas cops or band.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
A couple of them fighting on the left where they're
trying to check into their hotel. It's not a great start.

Speaker 7 (01:53:46):
I love there talking to the wars talking to Richard
Agar and he said, no, we don't give them any curfews, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:53:50):
We just treat them like they're at home.

Speaker 7 (01:53:52):
We don't give them curfews when they're not at work.
You know, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Adults, risky, very risk.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
There are a responsible bunch of men, and we're dying
to see some of the new.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
Recruits and how they operate. Very excited about that's the book.
Your table, I've booked a table, yep book.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Did you how bigcause you table?

Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
My table's about ten okay?

Speaker 7 (01:54:10):
And if you got anyone coming, we just said there
were people.

Speaker 2 (01:54:14):
I just need by space because I get very animated.

Speaker 3 (01:54:18):
Lovely Darcy or what your pick for the worries?

Speaker 7 (01:54:21):
I have little or no idea. It's impossible. You want
me to make your commitment. Of course, I wasn't going
to pick the wires by how much? By how much?

Speaker 3 (01:54:31):
Nice cor I don't.

Speaker 7 (01:54:33):
I want to see Aaron Clark and I really can't
wait to see what the fish can bring to the
party as well. On the New House, pairing two should
be good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:39):
Yeah, I'm excited. You're on the wing.

Speaker 6 (01:54:40):
Let's go.

Speaker 5 (01:54:41):
It's all good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
N RL's back.

Speaker 3 (01:54:44):
That's exciting itself, right, thank you very much for today,
and he ins tribute.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Doesn't matter because it's a deep rubber Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
Okay, yeah, good, Thank you so much, Darcy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
All Right, I've already said goodbye once by saying it again,
We'll go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:56):
For some drinks and we'll see you again next week.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Thank you for listening. Love you is all.

Speaker 6 (01:55:09):
They're gonna be again.

Speaker 7 (01:55:12):
They're gonna be akend the reckon they got edited.

Speaker 6 (01:55:17):
Up until the bed.

Speaker 3 (01:55:20):
I've had it over.

Speaker 5 (01:55:20):
The doctor knows, but they just don't.

Speaker 6 (01:55:24):
Eat the bay going home, don't.

Speaker 30 (01:55:27):
Do the trick.

Speaker 5 (01:55:29):
Talking in again. Work then I'm gonna take over bay.

Speaker 3 (01:55:36):
They bring the boership my dad is Ga gave me.
They're gonna be did.

Speaker 23 (01:55:52):
The time to know, but they just don't.

Speaker 6 (01:55:55):
Eat the bay.

Speaker 8 (01:55:57):
Going all the same.

Speaker 5 (01:56:02):
Against the name le people membership.

Speaker 3 (01:56:13):
Again again.

Speaker 6 (01:56:21):
Again again, Matt and Tyler.

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