Full Show Podcast: 29 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Hello, great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and Tyler
Afternoons podcast number one one three. It's the full show
for Tuesday, the twenty ninth of April. Boy Boy, it
was an emotional show today. We were talking about funerals
and we got a call from Tom that, look, you
just have to listen to it to fully appreciate it.
What a freaking great New Zealander Thomas, absolute legend of

(00:40):
a man, very very very very brave human being. Also,
we went into run It, Yeah, run it, boy boys.
Some people, some people really really didn't like my opinions
on this new sport that you'll hear about run It.
People think I'm a drongo for supporting it.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
They came at you heart actually they run it straight.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Up the guts at me absolutely. And we finished with
comfort TV shows. So it's a really really good show.
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Speaker 1 (01:13):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons News
Talk said.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Be.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, good afternoon to you, welcome and to Tuesday show
seven past one. Hope you're doing well today. Get a Matt,
get a.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Tyler, get everyone. Thanks for tuning in your great New Zealanders.
There's getting colder across the country. And look, I don't
have a fire in my house, but I have the
next best thing. Yeah, I just put YouTube fire videos
on all the televisions in my house and you can

(01:53):
almost feel the temperature. I follow this Russian guy who
just films live streams a beautiful fire in his cabin.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Right, So this is a non repeat. This is just
a live stream that Russian guys.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
It's a live stream crackling away on YouTube and your rooms.
Swear to god, you're probably listening and saying this sounds
like an outrageous thing to do, but it makes your
house so cozy if you don't have an actual fire,
but you'll end up feeling warmer just because of the fire.
And look, evolutionarily, apparently we feel a lot of comfort
when we see crackling fires because you know, our incestors

(02:26):
sitting out of the savannah knew they were safe when
there was a fire crackling. That's a lot of the
reason why people think we enjoy TV. It's not just
the entertainment, it's steering into some fluttering lights that hits
off a primal need, like the need to look into
a fire to know that we're safe. So you fire
them up on the YouTube channel. Boy boy, it's cozy.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
So with a glass of peen on, maybe some marshmallows
that you can't toast, and just steer at this live
stream of the fire.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's good times.

Speaker 5 (02:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Ef, you do it and you'll end up like taking
layers off because you get warmer and warmer from doing it.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh God, try that when I.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Get Yes, it sounds ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I do love a fire. Yeah, and you've been right before,
so I'll try it when I get.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Fire up a YouTube fire channel. It's so cozy.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
There's your tip for today in New Zealand. Right to
the show after three o'clock. Earworms. Why catchy songs get
stuck in your head? This is going to be a
fun chat. We've all had them, but new science has
revealed the best way to get them out of your head.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, and apparently you should get them out of your
head because they waste space in your working memory. You
might think it's fine just having a punishingly catchy song
on rotating your brain, but that's actually stopping you from
concentrating and achieving the task in front of you.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yeah, that is after three o'clock, after two o'clock. What
to look out for when saying goodbye to a loved one?
Story in the paper today about a bunch of families
potentially ripped off when they were trying to buy headstone.
But taking a bit wider than that, saying goodbye to
a loved one can be incredibly expensive.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, and what are the things you need to look
out for? What if you paid too much for looking
back at it? You know, funerals that you've been evolved in,
and look, what should you look out for in terms
of ripoffs? Because arguably it shouldn't cost much to berrier
loved one? Or is it important to show how much
you care by spending a lot? Is this spending a

(04:16):
lot on the future, on the funeral, on the casket
and such an important send off to the person that
you love or did you feel emotionally used by your
funeral directors? And do you feel like grief was used
to extract a lot more cash out of you than
you needed to spend.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Yep, that is after two o'clock. But right now, actually,
just before we get to this topic, there's a few
ticks that have come in about your live streaming of fires,
and there's quite a bit of agreement. I'm loath to say.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
That's so funny, man. I had it dine a party
a couple of years ago and let the fire in
one room, but there was no fire in the other,
so I put a revolving fire on my TV in
the other room. It was great. I agree, it's amazing,
says this person. Marsis. Come on, I'm smelling bs. Hey, guys,
we have an app on that Apple TV that has
lots of open fires to pick from. It's great. Brett

(05:06):
absolutely before try it, Tyler, before, before you rubbish it,
try it before I knock it. Seriously, our brains are
quite simple and they're easily hacked. And if we just
have a fire flicking away, we don't care if it's
a real fire. All those endorphins flow through us like
it was a real fire.

Speaker 3 (05:23):
I will report back tomorrow. But speaking of don't knock
it till you try it. A new sport is coming
to New Zealand's very soon. Actually, it's called run It,
and it's caused a bit of controversy and involves two
players running into each other at full speed.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, that's right, coming to New Zealand on May twenty fifth.
There's an article on the Herald today that refers to
it as the dumbest sport ever. I believe that's a headline. Yes,
the dumbest sport ever. But is it or is it
just a bit of fun? And a neuroscientist has come
out heavily against it, saying that doesn't seem to appear

(05:58):
to protect people's heads. But they're actually talking about a
video that's put up on the herall that isn't even
the sport. It isn't even the official people that are
running run it. So that's a little bit unfair because
they do have of safety features in place in terms
of where you can tackle and sash. But let's listen
to Nelson a softa Solomona and him describing the sport.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Nelson us are far solom want to hear. I've got
one question for you. Can you run it?

Speaker 6 (06:25):
All?

Speaker 7 (06:25):
Right?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
Boys and girls, welcome to run it. This is where
we separate.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
The strong from the stronger.

Speaker 4 (06:31):
We're looking for the hardest or runners and defenders in
the game. We're looking for league players. We're looking for
rugby beasts, anyone who's got what it takes to dominate contact.
The rules of the game are simple, with a run
zone of ten meters. One player carries the ball and
the other defenders. If you're running, your job is simple.

Speaker 8 (06:54):
You run it straight.

Speaker 4 (06:56):
So how do you win? You win by dominating contact
four rounds to impress the judges, headheart, dandel ground and
inflict damage. And you're wondering what's in it for you?
Twenty thousand cash. This is a sport bill for warriors.
You've got the mental game, the technique, the strength to
step up.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
And run it.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
There you go, run it so jdy.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Just to recap, Basically, you're in a ten meter run
zone called the battlefield. One player carries the ball and
the other defense. If you're running a job as simple,
you run it straight, smash into your opponent, and you
win by dominating content four rounds to impress the judges.
So who's seem to have won the tackle? So do
you think this is a good or a bad thing.

(07:42):
Do you support this kind of sport coming to New
Zealand Because on the thirtieth of April there's a run
It Championship number one is happening in Melbourne and then
we're just trying to find out where it's happening in
New Zealand. But I believe on the twenty fifth of
May is going to be a run at arena set
up with people running at each other.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
If you think it's going to be highly entertaining, you
quite like the look of it.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You think it's it looks on. Yeah, I don't understand
why people have a problem with it because well, the
organizers claim it's safe for the rugby with medical screenings,
mandatory mouthguards and rules banning tackles below the waister above
the shoulders. So what's so different then a game of league?
I mean, how many times do you run it straight
in the game of league can get tackled? Right, This

(08:28):
is just simplifying the sport. I can see it being excited,
you know at the start of you know, when you're
out at Mount Smart and you're watching the Warriors play,
that first run up is so exciting. Yeah, that first
heat up is hugely exciting, So what's wrong with enjoying that?
And if people want to sign up to do this,
then what the hell is the problem? And you know,

(08:49):
this neuroscientist has come out hard. I think that they
probably should have done a little bit of research because
they're actually coming out hard against an amateur version of
the game. You can't stop that happening. Kids are going
to run at each other. That's going to happen, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
And just to reiterate that point, so in the story
in the HEROLD, there's a video up there and the
video is not great. Let's be frank there. If you
see that video, it looked pretty horrendous and it was
has wrapped up two point five million views and it
was hosted by YouTube content creators. So just to go
to what the actual run At Championship League said about

(09:24):
that video. They said the incident captured in the video
was not in any way related to it and called
it quite distress in the video we felt was horrendous
and backyard events such as that one was very disappointing
to see. It said run It was a professionally arranged
combat sport in which athletes selected based on trial days
and merit of prior rugby league and union backgrounds went

(09:45):
through a Thurret screening process.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah, what's wrong with that? What do you think about this?
And what do you think about combat sports in general?
Because I tell you what, right now, if boxing was
arriving as a new sport, people would be shutting that
down pretty quickly because guess what, there's a new sport
where people punch each other in the face exactly. People
wouldn't be far in twenty five people to shut it down.
And a lot of people texting through ball rush, I mean,

(10:10):
the similarities for bull rush, except for in this sport
you don't try and get round the person. You just
run it straight, run straight at them and see who
gets dominance on the impact line. Is this the dumbest
sport you've ever heard of?

Speaker 7 (10:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Wait, one hundred and eighty ten eighty, What do you
feel about combat sports in general? And what do you
think this will have on the effect of the youth
of our country.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Let's get into it. It is quarter past one back
very shortly. You're listening to Matton Tyler.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 8 (10:42):
Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
That'd be very good afternoon to you. Eighteen past one,
and we're talking about a new sport that is set
to come to New Zealand in about a month's time.
It's called run It, which is effectively two players athletes
running at each other as fast as they can in
a tackle scenario. Right, that is effectively the rule.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
Yeah, that's right, you can't you know, you can't attack
they you can't or below the waist or above the shoulders.
So one has a ball the other doesn't. You run
at them and judges decide who had the best of
the impact. What's wrong with that? I mean, there's this
huge article on the Herald absolutely slamming it today and
I'm like, people like combat sports.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
Well, according to the text machine, there's a lot of
pushback on this particular sport.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
The problem with the sport is the youngsters now see that,
they'll try to replicate it and will cause brain injuries.
Acc will increase, wait times at hospitals will increase. Then
they'll blame the doctors. Again. If you really think that
youngsters aren't going to do things like this, that young men,
young boys aren't going to try and get physical with
each other. Then you're absolutely dreaming. And I think it's

(11:53):
probably better that they're running at each other like this
then than just sitting in their rooms and doom scrolling
on their.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Phones, having an organized event.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I mean, let's talk.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Someone mentioned bull rush there and everybody freaked out about
bull rush being detrimental for children, and it got banned
up and down the country. But did it really do
that much damage to young people? I love bull rush
When I was at.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
School, this robs has run it, like to see what
the ACC says about it? What has come to what's
happened to our country with? That's the response to something.
There's a new sport. You don't know anything about it.
You go, it's like telling the teacher. They immediately go,
wonder what the teacher's going to say about this run it?
Like to see what the ACC has to say about that.

(12:34):
How lame are we that we're always appealing to authority
before we see what we can do. You don't even
know anything about the sport? Yeah, well, I mean the
thing is rugby league. Do you want to stop tackles
in rugby league? You don't think that rugby is a
good thing, rugby union, rugby league. You don't think that
that's good for our society that people get involved in

(12:56):
contact sports. This is just the tackle part of it.
What's wrong with that?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
And that's a big point of it right where that
we all know that there is a bit of a
problem with children and being on screens and social media
a lot, and they're not getting into sport to the
level that they used to get into sport and physical activity.
Surely more sport coming to the table is better.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
Listen to this text from Sylvia. Wow, I can't believe
that you're encouraging our young boys to do this running
at each other full speed is crazy. I reckon acc.
I reckon acc. Should come out and say that they
won't cover any injuries cause by doing this type of thing. Yeah,
let's all go and talk to the talk to the teacher,
see what the teacher has to say about It would
be terrible if anyone did anything exciting. He's another text,

(13:37):
How stupid are men? How dumb running at people? We
need to be raining in the worst instincts of men,
not encouraging them, for God's sake, grow up.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
How is this any different though? Too? And I'm a
fan of YOUFC. I actually really enjoy that sport, but
it gets so much pushback and controversy. How is this
any different? In fact, this would be far safer than
getting into the octagon to get punched in the face.
And again I'm a big fan of that sport.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
With this text to here says from Richard, have you
seen the video of the guy getting brain damage playing
the game? Perhaps you should, cheers Richard. That's not the game.
That's a bit of a beat up. What's happening in
the Herald there because they've played some footage that's gone viral,
not of people doing a similar thing. But it's not
the run at official run thing, which has the Running
It Championship, which has quite intense rules. Organizers claim it's

(14:25):
safe in than rugby, with medical screenings, mandatory mouthguards, and
rules banning tackles below the waist above the shoulders. So
you can find a video of people doing something stupid
and then blame the sport for it. It's like finding
a street fight and then blaming boxing for it.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, I mean, there's no doubt CTE exists, and it's
come to the four in recent years. But then we've
got to have that discussion about do we cancel all
sports that have a possibility of someone getting CTE later
in life?

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You can't.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
There's pretty much every sport and activity you do that
has a risk of getting a head knock. So you
have to make a balance there on what do we
ban rugby in this country as a national sport because
there's a possibility, or how far are you going to
go because you're going to ban football because hitting the
ball isn't great for the head, is it? Exactly?

Speaker 4 (15:15):
So?

Speaker 2 (15:15):
I mean that's the question. If you've got a problem
with run it, have you got a problem with rugby?
Have you got a problem with rugby league? Have you skateboarding?
Getting on a bike? I mean, the list goes on.
I'm a god, I'm a sixty five year old female
and I was the bull washen bull rush queen at
primary school. Bring it on, VICKI.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yeah, I love it. Vicky, Good on you, Vicky. Oh
e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to care.
How do you feel about these sort of sports coming
to the table in New Zealand? And it's it's fair
to say that this is an organized competition, So these
are former professional athletes coming to New Zealand in about
a month's time, and they're in Australia as we speak.
I think the first competition is tomorrow in Melbourne. Who

(15:54):
are performing this particular sport run it in front of
a crowd of spectators.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Well, look at this. So many people are actually against
rugby altogether. Look at the studies on rugby players brains.
It's not an accent. It should never be covered by
acc This is not on so amazingly there's people that
just want to get rid of all combat sports. I
think that would be boring.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It's twenty four past one. Beat very shortly with some
of your phone calls.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Oh here Dave says he's been running it straight since
he was a kid. Been here you go, Dave. Good stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
What a difference to government makes?

Speaker 7 (16:35):
Say?

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Under labor literally nobody got tossed out of a caying
or a house, no matter how bad the behavior got.
Under the current government, we're up to two hundred and
ninety nine tenancies terminated litigation lawyer Dean the thorns with
us on this.

Speaker 9 (16:45):
It's a significant improvement. I had a lot of people
contacting me affected by this, and I did some rough calculations.
I thought the figure that needed to be a victive
with our thousand.

Speaker 10 (16:54):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 11 (16:54):
The media like to call this anti social.

Speaker 6 (16:56):
It's a good political word.

Speaker 9 (16:58):
I'm talking about people doing really agregous violence, stuff that's
threatening to their nabors. And I spoke to a love
of the old lady who said to me, I can't
have my Grandchildren's the thing.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
We're talking the worst.

Speaker 10 (17:07):
Of the worst.

Speaker 12 (17:08):
Back tomorrow at six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
a Vita News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
News talks between t seven past one, and we're talking
about this new sport called run it, which is effectively
two players, athletes, competitors running at each other as hard
as they can in a tackle scenario.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yeah, Matt and Tyler, I am what is considered a
middle aged female. Bull Rush was my favorite sport at
primary school. But my kids have never played this band
and it's so sad. Better kids learn about this when
they are lightweight and young. Any contact sport is fine
and good for young men as long as it's controlled
and monitored better than fighting drunk on the streets.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
Absolutely, there you go, Bob. You're not a fan of
this idea of this run a game, Well, no.

Speaker 13 (17:54):
I'm not. If you go back and have a look
at things like the NFL and America, how many claims
are going out for head injuries suing the NFL, We'll say.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Would you be would you be in for banning NFL
because because of the head injuries and rugby and rugby.

Speaker 13 (18:15):
League Bop, Well, I'm not looking to ban anything, but
what I'm saying is you've got to be responsible. Uh
Matthe you're sitting there advocating the stuff that is going
to be good, but strictly for your entertainment, you're not
going to participate. Have so oh look at that guy.

(18:36):
Look at that guy? What happened to him? Yeah, yeah,
you got a severe head injury. That's a clause in there.
When they sign up to do this, they're going to
be asked to sign a waiver that they don't hold
the promoters responsible for any injuries.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
I'm sure they are, but they are. It sounds like
the run Championship is pretty they're they're they're they're pretty
safety conscious. You know, got the medical people on start.
They've got medical screenings. Mindatary mouth guards. You can't tackle
below the waist, above the shoulders, so quite focused on safety.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Bob.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do you enjoy rugby or rugby league?

Speaker 14 (19:14):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (19:14):
I do.

Speaker 13 (19:15):
But what I'm also noticing is that rugby are losing
new participators. They're all going to basketball, in the hockey
and soccer. They're walking away from rugby because their appearance
are saying this is a dangerous sport because they've seen

(19:37):
what's happened to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
What attracks you to rugby? Bob? Do you think you'd
still watch it if they remove the tackle part of it?

Speaker 13 (19:49):
Well, they're doing that now, aren't they. They're doing it
by making you get your tackles right. You just had
one guy that got locked out of playing probably in
the rest of the Super Rugby because of a bad tackle,
and this goes on all the time. You want to

(20:09):
see people, Yeah, we want to see people get into
not combat. It's not combat. We're going to enough combat
going on around the world right now. But I'm introducing it.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Okay, what about our boxing, Bob? Do you enjoy boxing?

Speaker 13 (20:26):
Yes, I am. I used to box.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Right, surely that is very I mean, that's an interesting sport.
I mean, I'm a fan, but you are actually trying
to knock people out and.

Speaker 13 (20:38):
Boxing Well, no, not necessarily, you can now box them
without locking them.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Out, but but you, I mean, it's a bitter result
if you knock them out.

Speaker 13 (20:49):
Well, in your mind, just what you think. I don't.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
From a box's point of view, though, you don't want
to leave it up to the judges.

Speaker 13 (21:00):
Well, if you make the effort and score the points,
the judges are going to award you.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, I mean, it can get pretty dodgy and boxing.
But thanks for your call, Bob. I mean, I mean,
that's that's an interesting thing. I often think what happens
is that a new sport comes along and we hold
it up to a sort of higher degree of scrutiny
than an old sport, when really all this sport has
run it is the tackle part of a game of

(21:25):
rugby or rugby league exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
And look, you know, I get Bob's point that he
was trying to make that there are changes to the
game of rugby and to a lesser extent, rugby league
to try and make it safer. But you can only
make it so safe if it's a context sport, and
in fact for non contact sports as well, as you
mentioned before football, basketball, you get the ball in the
head from time to time.

Speaker 12 (21:45):
Allway.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
B Argie, bargie. I've got my nose broken playing basketball exactly.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
So people are getting head knocks. So you can only
make it to be fair. Yeah, I'm not surprised by
the hes, but you can only make it so safe.
So actually, how did that who broke your nose?

Speaker 6 (21:58):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:58):
I know, I was under a terrible layup attempt and
the ball just came straight back down on my face.
I took it to the paint. There was no one
even there. Anyway, it doesn't matter story anyway, mister Dickle,
my coach will really late into me. I bet you
for that. So coming up after the news headlines, I
want to play some audio which I think plays into
my point that the way people act around new things.

(22:19):
And I've got some audio from TV in said breakfast
the other day, and it was around what people were
thinking about jogging, because jogging wasn't a thing till about
fifty years ago. When it came out, people were terrified
about it. And we'll play some audio from.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
That it's going to be godd airs twenty eight to two.

Speaker 8 (22:37):
News Talk said the headlines with blue.

Speaker 15 (22:39):
Bubble taxis it's no trouble with a blue bubble. The
government books are expected to reach surplus by twenty twenty nine,
helped by massive slashing of new operating spending a next
month's budget to one point three billion dollars. It's almost
half the fore cast amount. Ministers and agencies have been
asked to save more. A helicopter has been dispatched to

(23:01):
way Haaha, west of Topour after a two vehicle crash
about midday, with serious injuries likely. State Highway thirty two
is blocked with diversions at Fungamatah Road. Queenstown Police are
asking for any information after a thirty three year old
overseas national was found with critical head injuries on Turner Street.

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The Transport Minister is heading to Sydney to promote local investment,
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Read the story at Ansaid Herald Premium. Back to Matteathan
Tyler Adams, thank.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
You very much, Ray Lean, and we're talking about this
new sport that is coming to New Zealand at about
a month's time. It's called run it, where two competitors
run at each other as hard as they can and
a tackle situation. It's going to be run by the
Run It Championship Lead think. The first competition I believe
is tomorrow in Melbourne. The grand prize is twenty thousand
dollars and it will be most of the competitors will

(24:16):
be former league and rugby players taking part.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
People are getting really stressed out. People are going to
injure themselves from hand ringing before they injure themselves from
playing Run It so a very simple game. You run
it in the ten meter battle zone.

Speaker 6 (24:30):
Run it.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
If you've got the ball. Basically this is how it goes.
So if you're running, your job is simple. You run
it straight. So how do you win by dominating contact?
Is it's basically a tackle. It's basically running it straight
in league, but just simplified, just down to the tackle.
And judges decide who wins. But it's making people very,
very angry. And I read that story in the Herald.
We had the neuroscientists coming through a massively against it,

(24:55):
but she was kind of confused and she was actually
going against a social media video of a different event,
not this event, not this event that this wasn't this
run It Championship is quite well organized and involves a
lot of safety considerations. But it got me thinking when
I was reading that Herald article about something that I

(25:15):
saw on breakfast television about a week ago, and it
was from fifty years ago, in the nineteen seventies, when
jogging had first started and people were freaking out of it. Jogging.
Jogging seems like a completely normal thing to do now.
I go for a run every couple of days, pretty safe.
It's seen as a healthy exercise. But people didn't used

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to do it, you know Arthur Lydiad. People know the
story Great New Zealander who really started a sort of
a craze of people running long distances. There hadn't really
been a thing before, so people were going out and running.
And here's an article from the News from the nineteen seventies.

Speaker 16 (25:58):
Jogging themsysiasts tell us works wonders for body and soul.
It not only keeps your body fit by getting rid
of flag, its strengthens muscles, corn reales and lungs. But
is jogging really what it's cracked up to be? A
recently published New Zealand medical report claims that jogging is
a dangerous, pointless pastime.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Wow, a pointless a dangerous past time, A dangerous pointless
past time.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
So you've got to you know, people were freaked out
about jogging when it started. Can you imagine that? Yeah,
so you know, as run it as run it is
this just hysteria around run it. I mean, look, if
you look at the you know, take a game like
rugby league. The record for the most tackles in an
in our rail game was Cameron mckinnis eighty one tackles

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against the Panthers in twenty twenty three. Yep, eighty one tackles.
So you've already got a game where people doing this
eighty one.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Times exactly oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call Carolyn your thoughts on this, Carolyn, Hi, I.

Speaker 17 (26:59):
Actually am not opposed to it. I mean contact sport
is what it says. It's contact sport, and there is
an element of risk, so those that are participating know
about that, and as long as they follow the safety
rules then they should get great enjoyment out of it.

(27:19):
As a blind person, I played a sport that could
be considered dangerous. I played a Paralympic sport called goal ball,
and basically it's three people on each side of the
court and we are throwing a one point two five
kg ball under arm down to the team at the

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other end of the court and they basically have to
put their body on the line to block it from
scoring a goal. Now, I'm sure acc would have kittens
at that.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
It looks fun, though, Carolyn.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
It is.

Speaker 17 (27:55):
It's it's a load of fun. And a couple of
the guys who've lost their eyesight in later life say
it's as close as they've got to playing a contact
sport like rugby or league.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
So, Carolyn, you're saying that you you have lost your eyesight,
have you?

Speaker 17 (28:14):
I was born vision impaired and then I became totally
blind in twenty and eleven, right.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
And so when you were playing this game, you were
you were completely lost your sight or you had a
little bit of sight.

Speaker 17 (28:27):
It doesn't matter in this. In golble, everybody wears what
we call sleep shades, so they are basically blacked out.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
Ski goggles, right okay.

Speaker 17 (28:37):
And you're it's at an international level. It's even more
strictest than that. They tape pads over your eyes, then
they look at your goggles up and down, then you
put your goggles on, and then they check all angles.
So there's absolutely no light getting in. So even if
you've got some level of low vision, everybody is on

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a complete.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Even And how many players on a team.

Speaker 17 (29:05):
There are three players on a team.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Yep.

Speaker 17 (29:07):
You have a left wing, a right wing, and a center.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
And so you're moving forward with the ball.

Speaker 17 (29:14):
Yes, there's The court is the same size as a
volleyball court, so it's about nine meters long and about
I can't remember how wide, but you've got different markings
on it, and the center is marked the three meter
line on each each end of the court.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
And how do you see that.

Speaker 17 (29:37):
You can feel it. You can feel it with your feet.
It's slightly raised and the wings are one and a
half meters back behind the center. So the idea is
the center flot can fly along the full width of
the court, and the wings protect behind the center right

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to the goal.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
And did you say it's sort of a heavy medicine
ball that you throw, Yes, it is.

Speaker 17 (30:03):
It's a heavy medicine ball with a bell in it,
and you throw it under arm.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Right, And so how often would people get hit by
the heavy medicine ball with the bill.

Speaker 17 (30:12):
It's it's not uncommon. I mean, the fact is, the
only protection you've got on your face is your ski goggles.
So if you don't turn your face in the right direction,
you can get slammed in the face by that rearranged
And we wear knee pads, elbow pads, and the girls

(30:33):
wear the chests protectors that the kickboxes would wear it
and and the guys of course have to wear a box.
But of course if the guys don't wear a box
and everybody knows about it, they become number one target.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
Throwing it low.

Speaker 17 (30:52):
You throw it under arm, so it has to hit
the floor at a certain point on the court. And
then the idea is for people to put their bodies
on the line, so you're basically spreading out for length
on the floor to block that ball.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
And if and if it goes into the goal. You
know it's gone into the goal. Does the umpire ti you?

Speaker 17 (31:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, there's the whizzle's blind and it said
goal and and so then the game restarts again. So
you score a goal, but sometimes if there is a penalty,
and sometimes you have to defend your goal all by yourself.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Wow, that sounds really cool. Well, thanks so much for
sharing that game. And as you say, people might go, well,
there's a good chance that this heavy medicine ball with
a ball and it's going to hit someone on the
head and do some damage. But the value of the
fun in the competition and and and you know, the
comaraderie imagine around the game outweigh there.

Speaker 17 (31:53):
It does very much. So, I mean I've made friends
overseas through playing the game, so it's it's great fun.

Speaker 2 (32:01):
Oh, thank you so much for sharing that with us, Caroline,
very interesting goal.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Yeah looks great. Undred eighty is the number to call
beg very shortly with more of your phone calls. It
is sixteen to two.

Speaker 18 (32:14):
Run it.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Shall we ban it.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
The issues that affect you and if it have fun
along the way. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News
Talk sa'd.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
Be afternoon thirteen to two and we're talking about running. Yeah,
run it.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
It's a game that's coming to New Zealand. The Herald
is called it the dumber sport in the world. I disagree.
I like the idea of it. So basically what happens.
It's on a ten meter run zone called the battlefield.
You run it straight. If you've got the ball, you
win by dominating. You run it straight four rounds to impresses.

(32:49):
Judges hit hard standard ground and inflict damage. One player
carries the ball, the other one doesn't. So it's basically just,
you know, the first hit up in a game of
rugby league really just repeated four times. But what do
you think about this?

Speaker 3 (33:04):
Bob?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
This is a response to a caller called Bob. Before Bob,
the reason parents are turning away and rugby is the
amount of misinformation, mainly from the frenzied media, easy New
Zealand Herald that wants to stick the boot into the
union at any opportunity. Matt, do I love watching contact sports? Yes?
I love watching people I don't know beat each other up.
Would I do it?

Speaker 6 (33:24):
No?

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Would I love my kids to choose less contact sports?

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Hell?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yes, I think a lot of people take that opinion.
Welcome to the show, Lisa. You want to talk about
combat sports.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
Hi, good afternoon, And you know, I find, you know,
it's a really interesting topic. And like Carolyn your last call,
I'm not in a disagreeance with it being played. I think,
you know, people that choose to do combat sports so
usually trained for it. It's the right medical your facilities there,

(33:56):
or you know, they go through medical checks. For instance,
I'm in my mid fifties, nearly fifty six. In my
late twenties, I played women's rugby league when they had
it on the West Coast Tea and represented and it
was you know, the camaraderie, the yessu. You got a
few bruises, but there were never really any assidnos. I'm

(34:18):
not particularly large person. I was about fifty four kgsn
and a fast spread. But I loved tackling, loved it.
So if I was a few years younger, this sport
sounds like it would be a lot of fun. You know,
we wore mouthguards. I often wore shin guards because getting
kicked in the shins is pretty bad. But you know,

(34:39):
it was great fun and we had really good times.
I also competed in boxing. I need did that for
about a year and a bit and I represented New
Zealand and you know, people would think and I was
the only woman boxer on the West Coast and doing
the sports, so I had to train with guys. But

(35:01):
the thing is you do train. You train to be fit,
you train to be strong. You know that you're going
into combat sport, but in boxing in particular, I find
that you are really well looked after. We have medicals
for medicals, you get checked by a doctor before the bout.
After about there's a doctor on site. And currently I've
got back into the sport in my fifties and New

(35:24):
Zealand's oldest female boxer just recently went to Australia and
competed over there, and you know, it's so well run.
It really is master's boxing. Unfortunately I'm too old to
compete in New Zealans so I have to go overseas.
But it's a combat sport, but there is a real
respect for your opponents. Yes, I mean I've never been

(35:45):
knocked out. I've never been hurt in the ring touch wood,
but you know, you take that risk as you do
with any combat sport, as you do with a lot
of things in life. But you challenge in the enjoyment,
the passion, the people. You meet, a doctor and a
referee on site. They stop it if someone's you know,

(36:06):
too far advanced on their opponent. Yeah, there are certain
checks we wear. You know, you're wearing breastguard, you've got
sixteen out gloves. And there are ones and overseas that
are in their sixties seventies competing on the oldest female
in New Zealand. However, when I go over there, there

(36:27):
are not many older females to be fair about. But
there are older males competing in the masters and it's terrouristic.
It's really well run.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
You know, it sounds I run it as well. You know,
the official run at Championship is you know, and you
know they've got safety protocols in place. You know where
you can tackle. You know, you can't be above the
shoulders or below the waist and you've got to wear
a mouthguard and there's medical people on board and there's
medical test. Yeah, same weights. But before people are very fair,

(36:57):
very fair. Absolutely. Now a lot of people are texting
through and saying that maybe it's all right in this
competition for run at the run at Championship League to
run but that it's a bad influence on kids and
that kids will be doing it at school and such.
You what do you think about that in terms of boxing,
because people could argue that they see boxing and then

(37:17):
they take it to the streets.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
Totally get you there, But with boxing as a real
respect sport to get in the ring, to train a trainer.
You know, if you go along to a German and
sure enough I've helped train kids as well. And you know,
if someone comes along and they just wanted to punch
or beat people up, they soon learn that boxing as
the other fell that you had it on it is

(37:41):
an odd It's not about beating people up. I've been
a victim of domestic abuse, believe it or not, never
been hurt in the ring, but sering hurt out of
the ring, and for me that self empowerment of the
discipline of the sport. I actually think it's a great
sense for kids if it's disciplined and run well. They're

(38:04):
integrating it in sport as schools now they're sport boxing.
We have from a little town called Reefton, we have
this boxing and some of the schools we had a
small boxing gym and there are some very dedicated children
drawing boxing. You'll find the ones that are wanting to
do bullying stuff. They don't last, they don't they don't

(38:25):
really get, they don't get to stay, and they don't
really want to stay when they realize that it's not
about being a bully or beating people up at all.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Really total, really nicely said lie. So, I wish we
had more time, but we're out of time, but thank
you very much. I've got to take a quick break,
but we'll come back very shortly. It is seven to two.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Matt Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on eight hundred
and eighty Tight. It's Mad Heathen Taylor Adams. Afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (38:56):
They be it is forward to two. Great discussion on
this new sport called run It, which is coming to
New Zealand in about a month's time.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
So basically two people, one with the ball, they run
at each other and a ten meter battlefield and see
who dominates according to the judges.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Look, I think the championship takes a safety seriously. Like
all combat sports, their risks, but people are choosing to
be involved. It's safer arguably than rugby league because you
are hitting people front on. The video that's going around
isn't from it run at Championship league, so it's sort
of unfair to compare. So I say straight in the attack, run.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
It Run it. Great discussion and thank you to everybody
who called and text. It was a lively discussion and
we love that. Right. Coming up after two o'clock, let's
have a chat about saying goodbye to a loved one
in terms of the costs involved. What do you need
to look out for on the back of a story
about many families who were hard done by when they

(39:53):
went to purchase some headstones. But I wait, hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. Looking forward to
your stories very surely.

Speaker 8 (40:02):
Talking with you all afternoon.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
It's Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talk.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Said good afternoon to you, Welcome into the program. Now,
just before we get into this topic, anyone who says
we don't do our research well, Matt, in preparation for
this next hour, had a document that he was wanting
to print, and he just wanted to print one page.
How many pages do you reckon you've printed? Off there.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Man, Well, let's just say there's no ink for my
costing tomorrow morning or hither duplic l in this afternoon,
because I've printed a two hundred page twenty twenty three
New Zealand funeral industry trends report.

Speaker 3 (40:42):
I didn't in color as well. Do you know how
much Cyan incers? I mean, it's gonna sink this company.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
This is an important document and all two hundred pages
needed to be printed out, and in that three minutes
I've memorized the whole lot. So I'm now an absolute
expert on the funeral industry. Okay, we are ready to
go go in time for this hour's discussion.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
And sorry to hear that, and Mike for having no
ink in your print out right. So the topic at
hand is what to look out for when saying goodbye
to a loved one. So it's on the beak of
a story in the paper today several families are urging
caution after a formal, former rather funeral director allegedly took
money for headstones without ever delivering them. It is a
very sad, cruel story and it appears they have been
ripped off, but it opens it up to a wider

(41:22):
discussion about the costs of funerals and having to say
goodbye to someone you love. What do you need to
be aware of when organizing something like a funeral? They're
incredibly expensive.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Yeah, and one of the things you need to look
out for because we've all heard stories of people being
emotionally manipulated into spending more money than they need to do,
and the price of things being inflated because people are
in the emotional state that they are whilst they're grieving.
What have you paid too much for looking back that
people might look out for in the future. What should
you look out in terms of ripoffs is another question?

(41:56):
And because arguably it shouldn't cost much to barrier love one,
how much should you spend is important to is it actually?
And this is a question I've got Is it important
to spend a lot to show how much you care?
Is it a display? I mean, I'm not talking about
building a pyramid and throwing a bunch of gold on

(42:18):
top of it, but is it? I mean, I think
about that movie about Schmidt when you know the main
character is Jack Nicholson's hassled by his daughter because he
bought the cheap casket for his wife and her mother,
he said, and she said, just at the end of
the movie, why did you buy the cheap casket? And
it was sort of a moment where it was, you know,

(42:39):
the plot point was that he didn't care enough to
spend the big money on his wife. I mean, middly
he did find out that she'd been cheating on her
on him, but that's a different issue.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Great movie, great movie, but that is a big part
of it. And I believe that in the US.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Maybe they do it here.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
But you can hire the nice caskets just for the service,
but you get buried in something that is a bit
more humble, shall we say, But that would, you know,
lead most people to say that you want to have
something rather extravagant, You want to spend quite a bit
of money to show somehow that in death you still

(43:11):
dearly love them.

Speaker 19 (43:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
It's an interesting one though, because when I go, I
would hate for anyone to spend too much money on it.
I'd rather they spend the money on themselves. You know,
if my kids blew a lot of money, I'd be like, no, no,
buy yourself something nice. Have me in a hole, buy
yourself something nice.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
You know, Well, I mean, the average cost of a
funeral in New Zealand, Well, the whole process actually was
between eight to fifteen thousand dollars, So you get that
right in the middle, twelve thousand dollars to on top
of everything that's going on when you're trying to organize
this stuff.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
That is a heck of a lot of strain for
a lot of families. And you know, as I was
saying before, I feel like people are in a state
at that point where they will spend nearly anything because
they feel like they're showing their love at that point
for the past person. But is that really showing your
love buying something that's incredibly expensive that just go gets

(44:04):
buried in the ground never to be seen again.

Speaker 14 (44:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Oh, eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call love to hear your thoughts on this one.
How much did you spend if you had to organize
a funeral for one of your loved ones who passed,
And what do you need to look out for where
there's some costs, hidden costs that you didn't expect that
popped up. Love to hear from you. Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It's eleven
past two.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
Your home of afternoon Talk, Mad Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons
call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk said.

Speaker 7 (44:34):
Be.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
Good afternoon. We're talking about the cost of funerals and burials.
What to look out for if you have to say
goodbye to a loved one. Oh eight hundred eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. Some great texts coming
through on nine two ninety two. This one from Bridget
I've just lost it.

Speaker 6 (44:54):
Here we go.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Hey guys.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
I attended a funeral where the casket was plywood, and
we were each given a colored pen to write messages
on the casket.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
See that's lovely.

Speaker 8 (45:02):
That is nice.

Speaker 3 (45:03):
Yeah, that's lovely. Uh clear, Good afternoon to you, hallam,
Sorry you go.

Speaker 20 (45:13):
My mom passed away six years ago, and my call
was around being very careful around the funeral homes because
my brother was overseas, so he took over trying to
find a funeral home to say bye to my mom.
They contacted me and I asked him if they could

(45:35):
send me a quote. So I sent it Love to
my brother and we both thought, well that's actually quite pricing.
So my brother dug around and found another lovely funeral home,
and so I agreed with the second funeral home. And
when they went to collect my mom from the hospital,
she had already been collected by this first funeral home

(45:55):
that I had not agreed that I wanted them to
take over.

Speaker 8 (45:58):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (45:59):
They then tried to say to my brother that.

Speaker 12 (46:01):
Well, they'll be a.

Speaker 20 (46:04):
Cost because we've already collected your mom. Needless to say,
he was fous anyway, they back down said, you know,
you can come and collect your mum now the second
funeral home, which were amazing. When they went to collect
my mum, they afterwards told me that this particular funeral home,
the first one, were renowned for doing that sort of thing,

(46:27):
because a lot of people any grief would then say
a lot of know, it's too it's too hard to
try and play.

Speaker 16 (46:34):
Something this one.

Speaker 20 (46:36):
And it was the most terrific story. And you know,
it's a dreadful, dreadful thing to go through you, my brother.
I mean, of course I can't tell you the name
of them, but my brother actually nicknamed them the body
snatches because because of what they did.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
So basically clear what happened was, can I just go
back a step in the story clear, So you just applied,
you basically asked the cost of and but but during
that process you had to say with your mums what
your mum's name was, and where she was, etc.

Speaker 20 (47:10):
Well, I think that I think that they knew that
from talking to my brother passed away at this date
at the Norcial hospital. And but I said send me
a quote because of course my brother needed to agree
as well. So and we never agreed for them to
take pick mum's body up. And you know which amazed

(47:32):
me because apparently not even the hospital so when they
went to collect her, there's nothing that comes from the
family to say agree for that to happen, which I
was horrified.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
You'd think there would need to be you know, I
don't know much about that how it all works at
that point, but there's no paperwork saying that we're allowed
to take this body.

Speaker 20 (47:53):
Nothing they turned up at the hospital because I looked
into it because I was furious, as the hospital told me,
there's nothing that needs to be signed. They just can
turn up and say we're here for and then give
the name and then the.

Speaker 12 (48:10):
Ones that passed over to them dirty.

Speaker 20 (48:14):
So and the more rectory was the fact that they
were renowned for doing this because in people's grief, they
don't want the you know, it's really a really upset
in time, and a lot of people just sat around
and said, oh, let's just stay with them.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
How did you resolve it in the end? Clear, is
there surely there's a body you can go to to
make complaints or something like that.

Speaker 20 (48:39):
Well, I don't know, To be fairness, I think my brother.
I mean, it was very hard on me because I
was the only one here. So my brother actually dealt
with it from the UK.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Right, And so you just you just you just thought
it was better to let it go. The body had
been picked up, and then you just wanted to move
on with the funeral with the people that you actually
wanted to work with. And the first you know that
you decided to go with just Yeah, so.

Speaker 20 (49:00):
I went ahead with it. I mean now, like you know,
listening to what you were talking about, I wish I
had taken it further because it's a point. Yeah, no
doubt that they're like to me praying on grief, going
through grief.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah, thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Clear, that is we see things to watch out for.
That is a biggie.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
Yeah, so you know, you ring round, you want to
get the best deal you want to maybe you're not
even trying to get the best deal. That's probably a
terrible way to put it, but you want to get
you know, the right the right people for you to
deal with the funeral.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
You should be in control of it.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
And then they take that information and go and grab
the body and then just assume that you don't want
to mess around with it and you'll just go with them.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
That's that is low.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
That is dirty. Body snatches, very dirty. But people that
run scams, well, you know, like we don't know all
the details of that, but people that run you know,
make more money than they should or running a little
bit of angle to make more money on people with
their grieving. I mean absolute skim Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
Absolutely. If you run a funeral parlor, do you still
call them parlors? Funeral service home? So, if you are
in the industry, we'd love to hear from you, how
do you approach that conversation around how much it's going
to cost? Because that must be the big thing straight
up front. First thing you do is offer your condolences
and then you'd have to present what the costs are

(50:22):
up front.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
Right, yeah, well absolutely. I mean you know some people
might go and they're grieving they said, I don't care
what it costs, just just just go and get it sorted.
But that could really blow out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
But you know, if you have if you if it's
a wedding, you have a budget, you go, I want this.
But then what happens, you see, is they go, well
you could have this, yeah, but some people prefer the
silk laden coffin and the varnished mahogany.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
You know it looks nice, Yeah, it looks nice, but
really doesn't matter. Just put them in supplywood and throw
them in a hole, you know, doesn't That's nothing to
do with how much you love the person.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
That's what you want. Oh eight hundred ten eighty is
the number to call love to hear your stories. It
is twenty past two.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Matd Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (51:17):
Good afternoon to you. It's twenty two past two and
we're talking about the costs of funerals and burials and
that whole process incredibly expensive. The average cost in New
Zealand four a funeral and this These are loose figures
according to a twenty nineteen Ministry of Health report, but
it is between eight thousand and twelve thousand dollars. That's
a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Yeah. Well, if any of my family members are listening
right now, I won't from beyond the grave think that
you don't love me. If you spend as little as
you can.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
And keep that how much did you say that was
between eight thousand and twelve thousand.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I'd prefer that you've divvy up that eight to twelve
thousand amongst yourself and buy yourself something nice or.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Do something so a nice little service for five hundred.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
That would make me happy. Yep, that would make me
happy if you just do the absolute cheapest job you can.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
Yep, I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
Well, just know that that.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Yeah, I don't need to mahogany whatever.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Celebrate me by skimping on every single thing and spending
that money on yourself. Yep. Can you put that in
your will?

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Again, I will come back if I find out that
you're buying a flash coffin, or there's too much being
spent or the you know, there's whatever. I'm coming back
to horn you exactly, I.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
On one hundred and eighty ten eighty C number. Call Wayne,
you had a bad experience. Did you win organized in
a funeral?

Speaker 21 (52:37):
Yeah, guys, I actually wasn't organizing it. Situation was that
the deceased knew that he was dying and he picked
a funeral director that he thought he could trust to
look after his wife and family. Basically what happened was

(52:57):
that in their grief and with the funeral director knowing
that he was the chosen one, he gave quotes and
charged around about twenty four thousand dollars for the funeral.
Included things like a mahogany casket, which when looking at

(53:20):
the casket it was chipboard with a plastic mahogany overlay. Oh,
it was things like the in Auckland Council provides live
stream of the funeral one way live stream free for nothing.
The funeral director wanted five hundred dollars plus GST for
that and all sorts of other things. And to be real,

(53:45):
I sat down and I caught a couple of other
funeral directors that I knew and gave them the exact
what was quoted for and the cost came out at
in between twelve and twelve and a half thousand dollars
for the other two that I talked to.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Wow.

Speaker 21 (54:00):
Fortunately, unfortunately I was not able to change minds because
it had already been predetermined via the decease and his
wife and his daughter in law who were handling everything,
were set by grief and were incredibly taken advantage of
by this multinational funeral directing company.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
When you say, Wayne, that it would all have been
decided by the deceased, the decease said that they wanted
to go with that funeral country company.

Speaker 6 (54:27):
Is that?

Speaker 7 (54:28):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Am I understanding that?

Speaker 4 (54:29):
Right?

Speaker 6 (54:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 21 (54:30):
Well he wanted to go with a particular funeral director
who worked for this particular company, right, And Brice wasn't
discussed at that point in time. It was just this
is the person who I want to look after my burial,
my funeral.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
That's dirty. So they're using the fact that it's locked
in to not be competitive, well basically to ramp up
the costs by the sound of the things, because they
know it's been decided that there's no options. You're not
going to you know, you're not going to shop around,
so they've charged more.

Speaker 14 (55:04):
Yeah, and to.

Speaker 21 (55:05):
Charge like the aftermatch function was charged out well over
one thousand dollars for a round about perhaps two hundred
government fift dollars with the food if you bought a
Hollywood bakery.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Yeah, so did you. So you did you do the
investigation and find out that it could be could have
been cheaper.

Speaker 21 (55:29):
Yeah, I did the investigation.

Speaker 8 (55:30):
Play.

Speaker 21 (55:31):
I haven't brought it to life within the family because
it's just it's a sensitive thing and people have made decisions,
and so all I would do is err on the
side of caution. Yes, it's a time of grief. It's
a terrible time those first few days. But some find
someone who is possibly a little bit independent to be

(55:53):
able to do some of the groundwork and find out
what the best value for money is. And don't lock
yourself into a particular person just because you think they're nice.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Yeah. And the other thing I mean exactly when you
say that, the independent thing is an interesting one because
you know you're in that state of grief. So if
someone says, do you want something nicer for you for
your mum or your dad or a member of your family,
then your natural instinct is going to go, yeah, I
want to spend that money and you're not going to
be scratching the service and see if that's not mahogany

(56:22):
right through, You're just you know, you're not in that
state of mind.

Speaker 21 (56:26):
And the other thing is that funeral riches are not independent.
You know, they come along and they do it. They
perform a function, and they've got the fancy cars and
lovely suits and all that sort of stuff, but they
are not an independent arbiter of this is how you
should run your funeral or what do you really think

(56:48):
or what you think is good value for money? Or
do you really want to have bells and whistles, five
Chadillacs and a choir of heavenly angels.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
So the twenty four thousand that was spent, the family
that spent that money, were they happy with how the
funeral went down?

Speaker 8 (57:07):
There?

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Not knowing that they sounds like they got ripped off,
But not knowing that, were they happy with how everything
went through?

Speaker 21 (57:14):
I think in heart of hearts sounds right.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
Yeah, So they sort of had a feeling that they
were spending more than they were getting.

Speaker 21 (57:21):
Yeah, not not a week or two or three ALFs
of the event, you know, because that's when things see
that's that's when reality sets up.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, when you're looking back, when you've
got to write the check. Yeah, one hundred. And on
another topic, Wayne, geez, you've got a fantastic voice. Beautiful,
thank you. Your voice sounds like mahogany, varnished mahogany. I'd
love to get buried in your voice.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
Wayne, well done.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
I thank you for your call sharing.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
It was a very beautiful, deep voice, rich lovely.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
I wish I had that voice.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Yeah, ee hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
It is pretty much bang on to thirty. Now, hopefully
before the end of the hour, we are going to
have a check two Jillian Boys. She is the CEO
of the Funeral Director's Association, so there's a lot of
questions coming through, so hopefully we can put some of
those questions to her.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
It is bang on two thirty.

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Speaker 3 (59:41):
Thank you very much, Railean, and we are talking about
the cost of saying goodbye to a loved one through
funeral service, burial, the whole process. So one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. It is
on the back of a story in the papers today
about a bunch of families who appear at the stage
to be ripped off after spending thousands on headstones they
never receive. So keen to get your stories? What do

(01:00:03):
you need to look out for when going through that process?
This Texas heres guys, we bear I read my mum
a few weeks ago. As a family, we chose a
very simple casket, but when all out with the flowers
on the top, it looked amazing. My mum would have
loved it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Yeah, that makes sense to me. Yeah, I mean the
casket doesn't seem that important to me, but the flowers.
And look, if you want to save some money, then
go and pick flowers from from your own garden or
from somewhere that your mum cared about. You don't need
to spend millions of dollars on flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Yeah, very true, because the flowers are very expective, professional.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Flower Yeah that's right. If the funeral directors are charging
you are mint for flowers.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
Yeah, just go to the botanic garden.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Get something that's meaningful to your mum.

Speaker 3 (01:00:42):
Yeah, Tom, how are you ye?

Speaker 14 (01:00:47):
Lads? Yeah, I've got a couple of funeral stories that
relate to what we're talking about, to be honest, So
the first one that you know you need to you
do need to look out for charges except to when
you get the Well, my son passed away in an
accident overseas some years ago, so it was obviously a

(01:01:08):
cost involved and repatriating his body and the cost of
the funeral director in Australia, and then we also needed
a funeral director here in New Zealand when we got back,
and you know, there was some time passed between him
dying and then him being repatriated and us being able
to have the funeral, so it sort of allowed a

(01:01:29):
little bit of water to go under the bridge when
at the time you can appreciate it's very emotional for
a family and everything. But when when we received the
bill from the New Zealand funeral director, I was probably
in a slightly bit of space, and on going through
that I realized that we were actually being charged for

(01:01:50):
two full funerals. Like the cost of the funeral director
in Australia included all the you know, the embalming and
put some pieces of them, had a small service over there,
and then of course we got we got double charge
for it when he got home, and it was just
of hidden away in a service fee if you like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Wow, And.

Speaker 14 (01:02:13):
Not to be honest, I can't remember the amount of
money I'm being passed away nearly sixteen years ago now,
so you know I was, but I did take it
back to them, and could you know, I can't criticize
the people the people at the funeral director were. They
were wonderful, you know they were. They were very good
at their jobs. They were very supportive and they made

(01:02:35):
it as easy as possible for us. But when when
we looked at the chargers, like I say, they seemed
they were slightly more than what it cost us in Australia,
and really all they'd done with being crude was it
was a TAXI yah them up from the port bring
them back home. Well they took them back to the
direct funeral director and just checked at it and then

(01:02:57):
then brought them home and then shipped them from there
to down to the football club where we had a service.
So you know, when I hit them up about it,
he was, to be honest, I think was quite taken
back and quite embarrassed that someone would actually question So do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
You think it was. Do you think it was an
era or do you think it was a bit of
a shimmy.

Speaker 14 (01:03:19):
Well, I mean potentially, I think I'd like to think
it was just a standard fee and not much thought
had gone into it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
But but but that might be the case. But I
think when you're burying someone, a lot of thoughts should
go into every single part of it. I think it's
behooved on the funeral directors to put a huge amount
of thought into all of it.

Speaker 14 (01:03:41):
Absolutely, And you know, other callers in textative said that
it is an extremely emotional time for the family, you know,
and it's you do you do quite you are led
by them. So and I guess it was only in
this case that you know, obviously in Being's case there
was the cost was large because we sort of the circumstances.

(01:04:04):
So that's probably what led me to to look at
it and question it. So I think, you know, when
you can find space, or if you can even appoint
a family friend that maybe you could step back and
just look at things. I think it is worthwhile people
just having a casting an eye over fer.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
I that'd be amazing thing if you could do that
for a friend, if you could if you could take
that off them and say, look, I'm going to be
a little bit independent here. You know, I care, but
I'm not in the same incredible level of grief that
you are. On the step up and be that person
for you. I mean, that would be about one of
the nicest things you could do for someone that's going
through a time there.

Speaker 13 (01:04:45):
Yeah, it would be.

Speaker 14 (01:04:47):
I mean, yeah, I've got a few funeral stories actually
seems to be my life, but just on a quick one,
I sort of stepped in and did the funeral service
for a friend his mother when she passed away. Because
you know, that's another thing people can look at it.
It's like, well, you pay a celebrant that doesn't even
know the person, and then they stand up and they

(01:05:07):
just spelled off few facts that you've given them in
your moment of grief and they don't really know the person.
So I took it upon myself to do this for
my friend's mother I love very much. So that's something
else for people could look at. But my other story
that I could touch on ruefully is planning a funeral

(01:05:28):
which happens to be my own coming up sometime this year,
and my wife and I We've talked quite extensively about it,
and you know, to be honest, funerals not really for me.
I don't really care. I won't be there. It's for

(01:05:49):
people you're leaving behind. And we've decided that basically, when
I do pass eventually, I would just go and get cremated,
whether or not we make a coffin ourselves for me or.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
Look.

Speaker 14 (01:06:05):
To be honest, I've said, I'm quite happy to go
up to the straight from home in a body bear,
basically to the crematorium, get cremated, and then we have
a memorial service a few days later. And so you know,
we've been discussing that what time frame do you do?
Do you know, you have, you have the cremation, then

(01:06:26):
do you have a memorial service within a few days
or do you wait a month or a year? And
and my feeling on that is that, well, grieving process
doesn't really start until everybody's had that chance to have
an aftermatch and a few drinks and you know, make
up stories about me that strictly won't be true. So

(01:06:49):
we you know, we think maybe a week or something
like that is probably a time and that that just
allows everyone to start to you know, move on with
their lives and grief in a proper way. So those
are my thoughts on and cost wise too. I mean,
you know, we don't there's no need for us to

(01:07:11):
spend ten to twelve fifteen thousand dollars or whatever it's
going to be on a funeral when essentially we just
need to you know, get a sign off from a
medical professional that I'm actually dead, and in the cremation fees,
there's not too much more than that involved.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
So, Tom, if I understand this correctly, you're saying that
you expect to pass in the next year.

Speaker 5 (01:07:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:07:40):
Yeah, I've got well, you know, cancer that kills everybody,
terminal cancer, so they've sort of given me not much
beyond the end of the year, but that that's you know,
a whole story. But yeah, so it does you sort
of plan these things, and we've we've so it's been
quite topical in our house about what is the plan

(01:08:01):
because it's something that people don't really like to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I imagine it's I mean imagine it's hard for you
to talk about with them, but very hard for the
people that love you to discuss it with you.

Speaker 13 (01:08:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:08:17):
Yeah, I kind of a lit a bit of a
weird see Sushuma. So so I can't and stuff about it,
but you know, it's we We actually found these books online,
my wife did, and they're called When I Die, and
it's I would encourage most people to actually have a
think about it and you just actually go through this.

(01:08:39):
It's not your will, but it's things that you want
to happen when you die. Do you want to be cremated?

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
You know?

Speaker 14 (01:08:47):
Do you want to leave your favorite fishing rod to
your best mate or do you think he'll just break
it because he's a useful fisherman And all my mates
will be listening to this anyway, so you know, it's
lots of things like that, and just who you think
should be, you know, who you would like to be contacted.
There's a few pages of different things. But you know,
pulling out a book like that actually takes away some

(01:09:11):
of the fear of dying, I think, right that makes it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Yeah, well yeah, it's hard for me, hard to comprehend
if you're not in the position that you're in, but
that that seems to make sense to me, and from
your perspective when you say about the cost of the funeral,
when you say you don't want it to cost a lot.
Is that because you'd rather money be spent on the
people that are that your loved ones?

Speaker 8 (01:09:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:09:36):
Yeah, I'd rather you know that money was just yeah
to me, it's like I said that the funerals about
the people you leave behind, so why why put a
debt on them? That's my opinion, you know, but on
with my opinions on some things, as my friends and tailer. Yeah,

(01:09:56):
I just feel that, you know, let's just call it
twelve grand is what they're saying. And you know that
twelve grand it could be you know, I don't know,
it's a chunk off the mortgage off, a debt of
off anything. You know, it's it might be a you know,
my wife and I love to travel, so maybe it's
a when she's feeling up to it. It's it's a

(01:10:17):
cost of a small trip overseas for you or something.
So I mean it's you know that she enjoys that
memory some places we've been. I just feel that money
better spent than spending it all on on I've never
got the embalming thing, to be honest, because it's like, well,
why my spending is money to make me last longer?

(01:10:39):
When you're going to stick me in the ground or
burn me anyway. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's a
bit of a harsh way of looking at it, but
that's that's that's the way we feel about it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
Yeah. Well, Tom, you're obviously a very, very good, in
caring man, and I'm very touched to have talked to
you about this and and thank you so much for
for bringing in and sharing that because look, that's an
incredible insight and really appreciate that time.

Speaker 14 (01:11:05):
Oh, it's no problem, mat because usually I'm just at
the other end of the radio swearing it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
You've got yeah, keep doing that, Tom, keep doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
Yeah, all right, thank you for a good day to mate.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
You too. Incredible call, I mean very yeah. What a position.
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call back very shortly. It is quarter to three.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
Matt Heath, Taylor Adams with you as your afternoon rolls
on Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:35):
That'd be good afternoon. It is thirteen two three.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
So many texts coming through after Tom's call. Tom, what
a pillar of strength, legend, no dabt He'll make the
most of his remaining time left. What a true champion
here has props to Tom, go well mate, bless you Tom.
What a lovely man you are. From David absolutely, so
many teas coming through. What a great incredible to get
to check Tom.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Aj, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 10 (01:11:59):
Hi, I'm good saying So I've listen to that call Tom.
It's yeah, it's a big call to follow us on.
But yes, so coming getting into it, Yeah, I had
to take care of my brother funeral. He passed unexpectedly

(01:12:20):
about six years ago, and that's my first experience with
having to actually organize it, organize it all, and ours
was a very good experience. Actually, funeral director that we
dout with was amazing. But it all came crashing because
he passed early hours of the morning. We were told

(01:12:41):
by the hospital that he needs to be out somewhere,
so I set the alarm to get you know, three
hours sleep by six o'clock and then trying to bring around.
We were in a place out of Watford, so we
went from there. He'd lived there with one other brother,
so they wanted wanted it all to happen there, and yeah,

(01:13:01):
we got it done and the funeral. Part of that,
we doubt works. They were amazing and they were brilliant.
But it was quite easy. Like the lady said about
the hospital, I just made a phone call. I didn't
have to fill in any paperwork or do anything. I
just rung up a few people very quickly, three altogether,
got a feel for one, wrung them up and all

(01:13:23):
I had to say was my brother's here, can you
collect him?

Speaker 18 (01:13:27):
And they did it all.

Speaker 10 (01:13:29):
And I couldn't be more grateful. And there are some
amazing organizations out there, and the job that they do
is incredible.

Speaker 22 (01:13:37):
I mean, it's a gift, it's a corn.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Yeah, it's important. Thank you for thank you for bring
up and saying that, because that is the important because
we are looking at some of the edge cases. But
you know, in the industry there are people that do
wonderful things that help people in a difficult time. Absolutely, yeah,
And it.

Speaker 10 (01:13:51):
Was but your hits of it, and suddenly money becomes
a factor. Cost you lose someone and suddenly you're dealing
with the hard, cold reality of what a funeral is about.

Speaker 14 (01:14:02):
And it starts with costs.

Speaker 8 (01:14:03):
Like Kennan Ford, what do I have?

Speaker 19 (01:14:05):
Do they have anything?

Speaker 10 (01:14:07):
And all I'd say, after everything happened, and it did
go beautifully and they're amazing. Is that After that, I
said to my family, if you haven't got life insurance
or funeral insurance, or your parents don't have funeral insurance,
can't afford that, you need to make sure.

Speaker 12 (01:14:22):
That they do.

Speaker 10 (01:14:23):
And my brother passed, Fortunately he had kiwisaver and that
particular fund that he was with. You were able to
claim expenses from his QI Saber fund. There wasn't a
lot of paperwork, so it's very easy. But then if
he hadn't had that, then that would have been left
to two of us and our family. That cost would

(01:14:44):
have been ours to carry and we were so you know,
I said, I'm ready to think about the details of
leaving up to his passing, but you know.

Speaker 14 (01:14:54):
You have to.

Speaker 10 (01:14:56):
You have to deal with that. So always people, is
that make it easier on the people you leave behind
by having life insurance, but even having funeral insurance, making
sure someone can act there if they don't have the funds,
because you are left with dealing with the reality of
what death brings afterwards.

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, thank you so much. Aj.
I'm sorry for your lost and thank you for sharing
your insights on that.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, beautifully said. Right coming up after the break, we're
going to have a chat with Jillian Boys, who's the
CEO of the Funeral Director's Association. It is nine minutes to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Three, the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons
News Talks.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
They'd be.

Speaker 15 (01:15:44):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Joining us now is Jillian Boys, CEO of the Funeral
Director's Association. Very good afternoon, Jillian, Gooday, how are you good.

Speaker 2 (01:15:53):
So we're talking about some unfortunate experiences that people have
had in this realm. If you think you're being ripped off,
what should you do?

Speaker 22 (01:16:03):
Okay, Well, look, we run so with a Centeral Directors Association.
We cover about seventy five percent of the in our
homes in New Zealand, and we run the only funeral
complaints service in New Zealand so that the industry is
not regulated. So our association sets standards and has ethics
and requires our members to meet all of those and

(01:16:25):
if there is a problem with a funeral from a
member firm, then we can investigate that and then we
can take some action if necessary. So that service is
available in certainly, we'd encourage people to contact us if
they do feel like they've had a problem with a
funeral home.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
That's great.

Speaker 3 (01:16:41):
There's a few questions coming through on our text machine, Jillian.
This person asked, is there a legal requirement to have
a casket at a funeral?

Speaker 22 (01:16:49):
It's not a legal requirement. It's often a council requirement.
So you need a vessel that can put the deceased
body into the cremator or to I think it may
be legal for burial, but yeah, certainly you've got to
think about hygiene and health and security and health and safety,

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and those sorts of things are will dictate often that
most people will have a casket.

Speaker 2 (01:17:17):
Hey, dylanne are the rules against funeral directors using emotional
blackmail to upsell? Is there a code of conduct around that?

Speaker 22 (01:17:25):
Yes, if you belong to our association, there is, And
you know, some funeral homes don't belong to us, And
we have seen a lot of negative stories in the
media recently, and utuately, I think you've mentioned the Headstones
guy as well, you know, not a member firm, and
we're really disappointed to hear those stories because we don't

(01:17:48):
want to have the industry cast in a bad light.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
But how do people know if how do they people know?
How do you know if someone as a member.

Speaker 22 (01:17:56):
We have a list of all our member firms on
our website, so we'd really encourage people when they're choosing,
if you're not home, to come to our website and
choose a member firm, just for that assurance that they've
got some backup in case something.

Speaker 14 (01:18:08):
Does go wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Jillian, thank you very much for coming on the show.
Really appreciate your time. We're going to carry this on
after three o'clock, So keen on your stories. What do
you need to look out for when planning for a
funeral or a burial for someone that you love? What
did you come up against love? To hear your story
on our eight hundred eighty ten eighty new Sport and
Weather on its way. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.
Very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Now your new home for instateful and entertaining talk. It's
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Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Sebby, Good afternoon to you. It is Seevin past three
and we're going to carry on the discussion we've been
having about the costs of funerals, of burials, of that
whole process. Some incredible stories coming through, and we want
to hear yours on oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
I'm still a bit emotional after that call from Tom.
He's just texted back. Actually I'll read that out in
a minute. But after that, once we've gone through this
funeral call, this funeral chat, we'll go to something very vacuous,
which is the TV shows that you judge people for.

Speaker 3 (01:19:12):
Yes, comfort viewing. But there's a great article on the Heralds,
so we're going to get to that. Just after three
point thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
Rob says, the lordship allowed burial in the backyard under
the old old tree. Like the old days. You can
organize some burials like that. I was, as I was
saying yesterday, I was at the Deep Creek Railway Deep
Creek rail and I've forgot it with in Crimnal Town
and when you're on the on the railway there's old

(01:19:39):
Barry Bricknell. He's buried there. So he's buried on his
property and he built the grave for himself before he
died and the cross to put on top of it. Yeah,
it's quite touching when you drive past, because you've been
on that railway. When I talked about this, the Driving
Creek railway, I'm an idiot. Fantastic railway that was built

(01:20:01):
by a man, a potter, and he built all the
aqueducts and the tunnels and you can ride on that railway.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
I saw the website, looked and cred. Yeah, absolute great
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
It's pretty touching. So you've been riding on. It's hard work,
like thirty years of just making this railway and building
the bridges you go across in the tunnels and you know,
bending it out of girders. And then at the end
when you come back, you drive past his your two
tube pastas is great and give them a bit of
a cure to.

Speaker 3 (01:20:29):
Give them a salute. Yeah, Thelma, you want to have
a chat about burial costs.

Speaker 11 (01:20:36):
Yes, yeah, I've been listening to your show for a
while and I understand. Yeah, a funeral cost is so expensive.
In twenty sixteen we lost my mum and luckily my
dad obviously did have the money there, but I was
just flabbergasted at the expense of it all.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
And how much did it cost In the end.

Speaker 11 (01:20:58):
Selma it costs my dad over twelve thousands.

Speaker 8 (01:21:01):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (01:21:02):
Well, but bear in mind my dad did also do
a double plot, so when my dad passes, he will
be buried on top of mum. But yeah, just when
you're grieving and you've lost someone, you don't really think
about it.

Speaker 23 (01:21:20):
You don't.

Speaker 11 (01:21:21):
And luckily we had my cousin sort of took over
a lot of that for us, and we ended up
going with Tippany Funeral Directors and I have to say
they were awesome, they were great, but I just thought
the expense of it. When we got the bill, it's like, wow, wow,
really and were you?

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
Were you? So you said you were happy with it?

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Do you think there is another?

Speaker 11 (01:21:44):
But I just think that funerals myself, and because I've
seen a lot of my family members over the decades
when we've had funerals, we've always had the fundraise because
we simply didn't have the money there to cover them,
and that's quite stressful. And so seeing all of that,
I have decided when I pass, it's going to be

(01:22:07):
as basic as I can make it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:09):
So you're going to you're going to put that in
your will or you're just going to say it around
the family.

Speaker 11 (01:22:15):
Yes, no, I've really told my family long. I've got
a long way probably to go, but this is what
I want and this is how I want to go
out on my tombs.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
Yeah. I mean, I'm exactly the same as youth, Alma.
I would hate for anyone to be stretching or you know,
going without to pay for my funeral. That would make
me miserable if I could still feel anything to know
that people people have put themselves out or been stressed
by my passing. I don't want it to be as
simple and cheap as possible, because you can all all

(01:22:46):
the emotion and all the all the chats can be
done very very simply just at at a bar.

Speaker 11 (01:22:53):
Yeah, you know, but I'm like going back to probably
you know, the seventies and eighties, when I've had you know,
our family members have passed, but simply not having the money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Yeah, and you've got.

Speaker 11 (01:23:04):
People go, well, we want to have we want them
to have a nice casket, and we want to all
these pretty nice flowers when they cost a lot of money.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
Yeah. Yeah, Well, thank you so much for your call, Falma.
I appreciate it. And look, I've managed to restrain myself.
I was thinking about saying making a Falma and Lloye's joke,
but it didn't good work.

Speaker 3 (01:23:21):
So I've I've grown more mature.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, hi there. My mum had the big funeral she
wanted at a cost of fourteen thousand New Zealand. My
mother in law died a few months later in Australia
last year. She wanted a three hundred and fifty dollars
donation to go to the Malaluba Coast Guard mo Low
Larber Coast Yard Coast Guard and allowed eight family members
on the boat. When a chaplain with a chaplain, they

(01:23:45):
scattered the ashes and provided a certificate with the name
and the coordinates of the scattering. It was beautifully done
and a fundraiser for the Coastguard. Both ladies got what
they wanted as their sendoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
See that is nice, guys, met In Tyler. Regarding funerals,
our mum put aside ten thousand dollars for her funeral
for years. We kept it aside when she had to
go into care and a year and a half later
when sadly we had to use it. We managed to
do everything beautifully for her within the allotted amount. Although

(01:24:15):
family were in the position to have stepped up and
paid any extra. Mum had risen every detail of his
service and spoken with us daughters what she wanted, so
there were no problems. We put it all into action
on December twenty three and had a wonderful gathering.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
See I might put side twenty grand for my funeral,
and with the proviso that they try and skimp and
spend the rest, you know, there's a bonus. However, however
cheap you get it, you get the bonus and being
able to spend the rest of it incentive.

Speaker 3 (01:24:41):
So if you can get away with five hundred bucks
for Matt Heath's funeral because you don't want to big shebang,
then you've got nineteen thousan five hundred marks I play with.
That is a good incentive. O one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number. Call it's thirteen past three. Backfrey,
surely you're listening about and Tyler, good afternoon. It is
quarter past three, and we've been discussing the costs of
funerals and burials in New Zealand's.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
And we had a call from Tom before, a beautiful call.
What a great man he is, great New Zealand. And
we are saying for the book that he said to read,
and it was by When I Die A Record of
Personal Details and the End of Life Planner by Catherine
Perks from your local bookstore When a loved One Dies.
He got it from the Woman's Bookstore Limited. You can

(01:25:25):
get it just google it. So by when by When
I Die? A Record of Personal Details an end of
Life Planner?

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Yes you go, Thank you very much, Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
This Texas is posthold borer vertical burial, no one balming
box of beers and sausages and the barbecue done. Funeral
directors are scalping. That sounds like a better year. Are
you allowed a vertical burial? I don't know, but it's
a great question. I mean, are you worried that you're
going to spend all of eternity standing up and you're
you know, you end up being you know, you're working

(01:25:55):
in retail for the rest of your life, but then
the cost of the rest of your death.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
Yeah, well, how far? So they did six feet for
a normal I suppose you get you know, I'm not
six foots so that would.

Speaker 2 (01:26:05):
Yeah, it's a lot easier to dig a hole, you know,
six feet then six feet you know, for me would
be six feet down and then another six two, six
three further down for you six down in about what
five four down further. So it's not you know, if
you've got the right boring equipment and so I'd be cheaper,

(01:26:26):
is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
Yeah, yeah, that works for me.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Friends, I see you.

Speaker 19 (01:26:32):
Doing a good quite quite a good story. It reminds
me of another story of the husband and wife arguing
over hugoes farce and who goes second because they one
of them wanted to be facing the other when the
well first one went in the hole in the second
one winning. Hey, look, my back story is I've been
an active funeral celebrate in christ Church since twenty seventeen.

(01:26:54):
I became a god as to become a funeral director
back in twenty twenty. Last year, in February, I jumped
out of that industry because I found that it had
become a little bit too transactional and so in christ
you So I started a little independent business that's been
going around where I go around and talk to audiences
about funeral options and affordability, rest homes or timed villages,

(01:27:16):
community groups, businesses and associations and families. The landscape has
changed quite a bit and COVID where we're moving towards
more direct cremations and then having some amoralization type ceremony afterwards.
It allows people to have a little bit more time
to actually organize something when they're quite vulnerable. And the

(01:27:37):
other thing is that I've been able to say families
spent four to twelve thousand dollars on a full funeral,
and I just thought I'd wanted to share that here.
In christ Use, for example, a lot of people don't
know what sometimes their options are. And there are nineteen
funeral operators in christ Huch and they all off for
a direct cremation service and some might have viewing or not.

(01:27:58):
And the cheapest is twenty two hundred including GST or
six thousand, six hundred and sixty five including GST. So
there's a huge variance and perhaps the same type of
service being offered as far as the cost goes. And
therefore some people that or if there are families who
are able to perhaps make cost savings just in that

(01:28:19):
part of the journey when they're going through a bereavement.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
So are you talking about it? Are you talking about
so you have the cremation that part of it done
and then you work on the ceremony over over, over time.

Speaker 19 (01:28:31):
Correct memorial service.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Yeah right, I mean obviously it doesn't obviously that that
doesn't work if you're if you're not cremating, because you
have to get it done.

Speaker 19 (01:28:41):
Oh absolutely, yeah. Yeah, So I think that when COVID hit,
we went able to have funerals per fee like we
have the traditional ones. So people either went onto a
long embalm to be buried or have a service down
the track, or or they got cremated and then a
memorial service or a type of service was had with

(01:29:02):
the eshes present, and therefore after that they were able
to be scared or interred, and that sort of has
trajector the industry on a trajectory of more of those,
because more families are now able to organize their own
memorial service without engaging a funeral director and therefore save
on a professional services the cost associated with that. And

(01:29:26):
you can have a memorial service at home, in a park,
at the beach, at a club and it can just
drive the cost down quite significantly.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
How how would people get a hold of you if
they wanted to connect and share?

Speaker 19 (01:29:42):
Yeah, so my little week business is called everything general.
It's your life. You'll fare well know your options. And
if I have a website that has quite a bit
of information on that I share with people, it's just
www dot everything funeral dot end z.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Well there you go. Thank you for your call, Brent.

Speaker 3 (01:29:59):
Yeah, I mean that is probably someone that you want
to engage with, you know, without giving Rent too much
of a plug. Having an advisor that's independent if cost
is a big thing for you, seems like a wise idea.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
I should have asked him about the vertical funerals. I
organized my death years ago, says Rose. I bought my plot,
made my coffin at our coffin club, got fuel insurance,
and not one cent my family have to pay. I'm
keeping it private, just immediate family and friend. I were
buried after two nights with my family and close friends.
Most of my dear friends have already passed. I feel
good about dying knowing my family never have to worry.

(01:30:33):
I'm in my seventies now, cheers Rose. Very organized.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
Yep, you're a plan of Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
I guaranteed Rose has had a life of quality Edmond
where but my grandmother was like that, Mum Powell before
she went she organized everything. She went around the house.
She had wrote the names of all on what everyone
was getting. Everything was absolutely organized so far in.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
Advance, which I found life, which.

Speaker 2 (01:31:00):
I found really weird as a kid. Walking around and
seeing that everything had been organized, I was like, but Granny,
you're not going to die.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
I take my head off to pin that like Edmond
like that.

Speaker 2 (01:31:09):
It turns out I was wrong. She did die. Yep,
great New Zealander.

Speaker 3 (01:31:11):
She was absolutely Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. Will take a few more calls
very shortly. It is twenty two pass three.

Speaker 1 (01:31:22):
Madd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on youth Talk ZB afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:31:28):
It is twenty four past three.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
Lads. My dad passed a month ago. He was cremated
and we had a brilliant memorial at home with friends
and family. Cheap airs exactly what dad wanted. Yeah, that's
what I want, cheap airs. A you're listening kids.

Speaker 3 (01:31:40):
Yep, guys, if you don't plan for your funeral, you
were foolish in creating a burden for others.

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
It would be I mean, that's a bit rough on people.
That die unexpectedly or you know, suddenly get a rough
diagnosis and maybe don't have the energy to sort it out.
But yeah, I mean the problem is that we all
think that we're going to live forever. Yep. So you know,
to plan your own funeral, you have to accept your
own mortality, and to be honest, I probably haven't accepted

(01:32:07):
that yet.

Speaker 3 (01:32:08):
But again, if you're you know, you want to keep
the costs low when you're saving five hundred bucks, I'm
sure with your you know, they could sell your car
or something rustle up the money that way.

Speaker 2 (01:32:16):
Vertical funeral. Yeah, Paul, welcome to the show.

Speaker 6 (01:32:20):
Oh my gods, my view on it now. My mother
died a chance and it's coming up ten years in
a couple of days, and she didn't want to be cremated,
and she didn't want the minister because she didn't like him,
so Mushafa. So so when she did die, my father
wanted to gether cremated, so I had to I had

(01:32:41):
to step in and say no, she's getting buried. And
the minister was so sick at the funeral that he
couldn't get up and speak, so I had to do everything.
So I had to do the eulogy and even planning
for the funeral. My siblings just they bug it off
and left me to it, you know, when we went
off the coffee with relatives and I was left to

(01:33:02):
do everything.

Speaker 2 (01:33:03):
Did you did you? Did you experience some pride that
you were the sublime thing that stood up and did
did the right thing for your mum?

Speaker 6 (01:33:11):
Oh, I definitely did. I think I was the closest
one to my mother, and the problem was dying with cancer.
Until we get very angry at the end of life too,
so it's quite hard to go through that, you know,
when you're securing to add uing with one another over nothing,
you know. But yeah, so he was going to even

(01:33:32):
take the wedding bring off. He'd already given all the
jewelry to my sister, and you know, and he had
it's worth of it, so you know, I'm talking about
solid gold stuff. But I made you know. And there's
one thing. I said, No, you're leaving my mother's wedding
ring on her finger, so we're putting we put a
favorite to your few favorite shoes. And then you wanted

(01:33:52):
to spend the less money he could on a coffin,
and I said, you're not doing that to my mother
because my mother didn't have it what she did here,
she had good stuff and and he, my father had
spent most of his life, you know, y offering and
boozing up and having a great laugh. Well, my mother,
my mother looked after kids, you know, like most mums
said in the seventies and eighties. You know, it was

(01:34:16):
it was quite a horrible experience for me. And there's
one thing I can say that the funeral directors were
absolutely brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:34:22):
Yeah, did you get the funeral you wanted for your mum?

Speaker 2 (01:34:25):
In the import?

Speaker 6 (01:34:27):
Yeah, I got to speak. My father wudn't let me
say a lot of stuff in my eulogy, which I
don't know why, And I'll say it now. My mother,
my mother had a love for the beetles, and when
she was fourteen, she didn't have the twenty pounds to
go see them because it was so much money back then.
So she was one of those screaming kids in the crowd.
And so she was right up by the diesels car

(01:34:48):
when they're in thenason, she lost her shoe and the
policeman stuck her up on the bonnet. So she's looking
straight in the window and all she could say was
all that Ringo had greasy year. It wasn't a real cream.

Speaker 3 (01:34:58):
But that's a lovely story.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Well, good on you, Paul for stepping up. And yeah,
I mean that, you know, he highlights that the you know,
funerals can beautiful times, but they can be pretty tense
times within families. If we can something wide or know
about a funeral director, welcome to the show.

Speaker 23 (01:35:15):
Hey guys, helly you could Yeah, I guess I just
wanted to give some feedback from a funeral director's perspective.
I'm the general manager for a couple of large companies
and his own Davis Care and Bills Funeral Services, and
I guess what we're seeing a lot of is this
can this talk about funerals being so expensive, even down

(01:35:38):
to the point of funeral directors ripping families off, And
you know, there's several parts of this. One of your
previous callers said, you know, when you're grieving or suffering loss,
you're not thinking clearly. Again, that's the space that we
step into. We help families know what their options are,
giving them the options and really trying to allow them

(01:36:01):
time to get their head around what's going on, and
allowing them to really fall into the grief process and
not have to worry about the nuts and bolts of
it all. We can take care of those things, and
you know, those things do come at a cost. At
the end of the day. We are businesses. We're businesses
that have overheads, and it costs us to turn the

(01:36:21):
lights on, and so there are costs involved with that.
And I think when you know, you guys are talking
about the variants and charges, you know some of that
might actually come down to the care of the deceased
as well. So you get some you get a company
who's charging two thousand dollars for no service, and you
get a company that's charging six thousand dollars for no service.

(01:36:42):
I guarantee you their facilities, their vehicles, their staff, et cetera,
et cetera aren't the same, so that you're not going
to necessarily get the same level of care. And then
you know, we're very quick as well to say we
don't want to spend twelve thousand on a funeral, but
at the same time we're happy to spend twenty thirty

(01:37:02):
forty thousand on a wedding. Yeah, as we know, Hey,
you might have a couple.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Of those now wade what what you know? You say
that you're there to provide people with with with options
and help them through the situation. How do you how
do you, you know, traverse the moral waters of up selling
people because people in that in that emotional state might
just want to spend more than they need to to

(01:37:29):
to make a statement when you when you make give
them the offer. Because obviously there's levels of funeral how
do you how do you make sure that you're not
playing on their emotions to get them to spend more
money than they want to, which they might regret, you know,
when when the grieving processes has calmed down a little bit.

Speaker 23 (01:37:48):
Absolutely, I think if you're a half decent operator, are
you going to make sure that you're working within a
person's budget or something that's affordable to them and not upselling.
The options are there if they want them, they're available
to them. There's alternatives often to those things. You know,
it's it's almost become the normal. Say with catering, that

(01:38:11):
funeral grout is going to organize the catering after the
funeral if family can't afford that they can have something
at home later. It might be the casket type and
it might be you know the fact that it is
transactional that you're saying to the families once a range.
Once you've discussed what they want, then it's discussing what
their needs are and asking that question of how are

(01:38:32):
they actually thinking that they're going to pay for this?
Is it affordable to them? And then having an honest
conversation and then trying to find a way that works
for them to still provide them of what they need.
And you know, there's a lot of needs and want
with lots of things, and funerals are one of those,
and they don't have to be a big production. But

(01:38:53):
I think we're falling into this trap of I don't
want a funeral basically because I don't want a production.
And so what you're actually then doing is denying family
members the opportunity to say goodbye and having something there
interesting point in between space.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Because the process, the process of going through the funeral
has been put together over many, many, many many years
by humans to deal with it. It's designed to go
through the process of each part of it to help
people deal with the grieving processes. Is what you say.
So in a way, it might be selfish to be
what I'm saying is just you have me in a
vertical whole and move on, because then they don't get

(01:39:34):
the closure.

Speaker 23 (01:39:35):
Yeah, and I think it's fine to say that. But
add to the end of that, but if the family
want to do something different, you've got my permission to
do so, because then needs are going to be different.

Speaker 8 (01:39:46):
To what yours wants.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
That's a nasting point.

Speaker 23 (01:39:49):
Yeah, and one of you, one of you mentioned that
just before we think we're going to live forever, the
reality is we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:39:55):
Damn it.

Speaker 23 (01:39:55):
And so yeah, we're especially New Zealand. Europeans are pretty
death denial as far as cultures go.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
And we've got a.

Speaker 23 (01:40:05):
Whole lot of other cultures in New Zealand who really
underst san death, grief and grieving and have those things,
those iconic things in their culture in place to deal
with it. And the European fallback seems to be, well,
you know, I'd rather think about summers coming and I
want to go to the beach than thinking about the
potential that we're not going to be here forever.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Yeah and sok, hey, thank you so much for giving
that perspective, way to appreciate it and finally go house business.

Speaker 23 (01:40:32):
It's always there.

Speaker 3 (01:40:36):
It's very true to growth business. Yeah, way, thank you
very much. Right, that was a really good discussion. Thank
you very much to everyone who text and phoned on
that one. We've got headlines coming up. Then we're going
to change tack a little bit because it's the last
half hour of the show. We want to talk about
comfort TV shows. Great story in the world. It's headline
comfort TV shows what your guilty pleasure viewing says about

(01:40:57):
your personality.

Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Yeah, and I want to I am less interested in
that title. I'm less interested in your topic and I'm
more interested in mine, which shows that you judge people
for watching.

Speaker 3 (01:41:07):
Oh, we all judge people for the shows that they watch.

Speaker 2 (01:41:10):
Yeah, and some of the comfort shows are the ones
that you most judge. So shows your comfort shows and
also shows you judge people for watching. Yep, it is
twenty six four bag Visually philbit tried after all the
some quite emotional death, chet doesn't it?

Speaker 8 (01:41:25):
That does Jus talks.

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One hundred days. That's all it took to sever America
from the world. You can read the New York Times
article at NZ Herald Premium. Now back to Matt Eathan
Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:42:45):
Thank you very much for Raylean. So we want to
change tank. Over the next twenty five minutes, we want
to talk about comfort TV shows. There's a great article
in the Herald and its headline comfort TV shows what
your guilty pleasure see is about your personality. But the
question we really want to ask, or you want to ask, Matt,
is what shows do you judge someone over? And they
are comfort shows that we judge people over.

Speaker 2 (01:43:06):
Yeah, okay, Tyler, what's your from comfort television show?

Speaker 3 (01:43:10):
Friends? Love it so I can always go back to Friends.
It is just it's like it is like a little
friend on the Telly Millennial.

Speaker 18 (01:43:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:18):
I mean, all you have to do is watch Friends
without you know those when they you know, do those
versions of it where they cut the soundtrack off. It's
very weird. Ross is a psychopath.

Speaker 3 (01:43:26):
If you if you go without a laugh track is
a terrible watch. But you need the laugh track, no
doubt about it. Bring back the laugh track.

Speaker 2 (01:43:33):
Okay, yours Ah, Look, it's probably going to be The
US Office good shows that I feel like my friends.
I feel like they are they're you know, the Friends
are your friends.

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
I feel like everyone on the US Officers my friend
until Steve Carroll left that was there was a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:43:49):
Of seasons that you're I mean the Will Farrell see Community.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Community is a fantastic show. That's a that's especially seasons two, three,
and four fantastic show. And also I've got a lot
of time for Parks and.

Speaker 3 (01:44:01):
Rig Parks and Rick he had another great show.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Yeah, what about shows you judge people for watching Maths?

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
One hundred percent Marriage at first Site? I think that's
absolute trash. I can see why people may find it
appealing a little bit. No, actually I can't. I can't
figure out why people love that so much. It's so weird.
And the scandal it's not even scandal, it's all scripted.
These are the weirdos that they find.

Speaker 2 (01:44:22):
Are we on you know, going back to the previous
topic about funerals, are we on this planet long enough
to spend our time watching Maths? So the valuable moments
that you have on the planet, they work out, if
you live to eighty you have four thousand weeks, So
how many hours are you willing to spend on marrit
at first site? And look that I will say that

(01:44:44):
I haven't watched it, so I can't really judge. And
for a person that watched an insane amount of Big
Brother back in the day, but I don't know. I
don't know if that then enhanced my life. So yeah,
I think you can judge it.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
The fact that you haven't seen it at all, apart
from the WE promos, that probably put you in a
good position to judge it. But Jersey Sure is another one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
Yeah, yeah, you're a loser if you're watching that terrible
You're worse than them are fruitcakes on there?

Speaker 3 (01:45:09):
And then Jordie Show really stepped it up and not I'll.

Speaker 2 (01:45:11):
Tell you what My dad, great New Zealander Chris, he
has spent a lot of his like watching Dad's Army.

Speaker 3 (01:45:18):
It's a good show, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:19):
It's a great show Dad's Army.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Colsome.

Speaker 2 (01:45:22):
I judged him and he said, I've got all this
Dad's Army. I'll show you some Dad's Army. Yeah, And
I was like, oh god, a terrible show. Some of
it's in black and white and you can see that
the Office, the British Office comes through the tradition of
Dad's Army. That is insane that Dad's Army still stands
up as a show.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
The golden age of TV. Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty What show do you judge someone for watching?
Love to Hear from you if you want to send
a teach you more than welcome nine two nine two Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
You're guilty pleasure shows as well, which we could judge
you for.

Speaker 19 (01:45:50):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:45:50):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:45:51):
In nineteen to four, have a chat with the lads
on eighty ten eighty mad Heathan Taylor Adams afternoons.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
News Talk z' B News Talks ed B. We're talking
about comfort shows and also those shows that you judge
people over. I certainly judge anybody who watches Married at
First Side Australia and New Zealand. Do we still make it?

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
I don't think we do anymore. No, Hey, this person's
a person that's very close to my heart. Red Dwarf
Ultimate Comfort TV. Sure, and if you ever watched Red Dwarf, Yes,
what a great show that was. My god, this person,
Greg says, I judge people who watched one news from
Greg fair enough.

Speaker 6 (01:46:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
I watched it for the first time the other day
when I was on holiday for the first time in
a very long time. What do you think. They've definitely
decided to push one side of the barrow, as it were.
They're all in on one side of every story.

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
That's for sure. The guys Mesh absolute comfort show. Love it,
can continuously watch it. Mesh was a fantastic show.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
When I was a kid, you'd come home from school
when they'd play Mash every night at five o'clock. Yes,
it would be Mash, then cheers and then people remember
what the other shows were that they had just on
happy days. They're rotation, so you'd always come home to
a sitcom and Mesh. I just loved that show so much.
I tried to show it to my kids the other
day and I didn't realize how much it was just

(01:47:12):
set and the sets like in a tent. It's a
very strange show, and.

Speaker 3 (01:47:17):
It got pretty deep, got pretty emotional at times. Another
one with a laugh track though, the old Mesh laugh track.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
Yeah, but not in the not in the bloody operating theater, mate.
They turned the laugh track off. Very true, Yeah, they
did to make it more sort of serious. Matthew, You're
guilty pleasure of a TV show.

Speaker 12 (01:47:34):
I love Remor and Snaghead in Wet Draw. That's brilliant.
That was a great show.

Speaker 21 (01:47:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:47:39):
Absolutely, the Goodies, the Goodies, the.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Goodies, goody goody, yum yum.

Speaker 12 (01:47:47):
Brilliant show. And I love Seinfeld even now. I can
still flick it on on the old Netflix. If we
were arguing about signing to watch and oh.

Speaker 2 (01:47:55):
Yeah, Seinfeld holds up, you know, ultimate nineties TV show,
but it signs up. Basically every issue in life is
addressed at some point during Seinfeld.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, great characters. I mean you it can
do no wrong. Yeah that's a I mean, evil evil people.

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
But I'm a great show and cringeworthy.

Speaker 12 (01:48:17):
I have to agree with maps anything reality based, I mean,
why are we watch it? I mean that's just rubbish.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Yeah, I mean.

Speaker 12 (01:48:25):
Also, any fishing show is a good comfort show. You know,
that's always good.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
But I met Watson for you. Thank I you call Matthew.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Go well mate. The show I judge someone for watching
his one news.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
Is there's about a thousand people texting that the only
show they judge people watching is one News.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
Guys. I froth gun Smoke old time radio show on Spotify,
and I frequently listen to the show when.

Speaker 2 (01:48:56):
I'm driving to work. Gun Smoke Smoke radio show. It's
a radio show, old No. But gun Smoke was definitely
at one point was it's dimly a show We're really
going back in time here, But wasn't gun Smoke from
the sixties. It's definitely black and white like gun Smoke.

Speaker 3 (01:49:14):
Come on.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
So This Person's Comfort Show first went to air in
nineteen fifty five. Wow, it ran from nineteen fifty five
Gun Smoke to nineteen seventy five. That's a good run.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
That is a great run.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Yeah, guys, The Games in Kirby Enthusiasm peak television in
my book. Oh yeah, John Clark a great New Zealander.
Of course, fred Dagg was one of his characters. That
show The Games, which what a guess would have been
nineteen ninety nine, that game, that show.

Speaker 3 (01:49:39):
But yeah, of the Games, what's the game?

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
It was the show that John Clark made as a
build up to the Sydney Olympics. It's a really fantastic show.
John Clark's absolute genius. But Kirby Enthusiasm, yeah, I mean
next level.

Speaker 3 (01:49:52):
You started watching that, I thought, jeezusiness is extreme, but
it's hard.

Speaker 2 (01:49:55):
It's basically Seinfeuld.

Speaker 3 (01:49:58):
Concentrate Yeah eighteen Seinfeld.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Yeah, that's right. It's like it's like drinking RaRo without
the water. If you like Seinfeld, George your comfort show
or shows you judge people for watching?

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
Yeah, good a. I love a bit of Hogan's heroes.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Oh yeah, yeah, great pick yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:50:17):
Great one. And another real good one was Blackadder.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Yes, yeah, my kids love Blackadder. What's what season black Added?
You reckons the best season? I'm going to go season two?

Speaker 5 (01:50:30):
Oh mate, absolutely, Season two is probably the best season two,
followed by season three. And say the actor on there's
probably Hugh Laurie, the Prince Regent.

Speaker 6 (01:50:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
I know. I blame my kids because you know, they
knew House and they watched Hugh Laurie just endlessly on
House and then went back and showed him on other
shows before then, and yeah, blew them man, he's so
great as the stupid Prince.

Speaker 5 (01:50:54):
And I had to agree with the previous callers about
the fishing show. Definitely, definitely a bit of fishing and hunting.
It's a good relaxing watching.

Speaker 3 (01:51:02):
What's the hunting show that you watched, George?

Speaker 5 (01:51:05):
Oh, there's there's quite a few on a There's New
Zealand Hunt Adventurers. Yeah it's quite a good one. Yeah, yeah,
that's a really good show.

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Yeah all right, think if you call George I appreciate that.
I'm going to kill you if you say another bad
thing about maths. It is a good show. It teaches
you about life, you muppets. Since this text teaches you.

Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
About life, I suppose you know to stay away from
in life.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Well we better take two weeks leave after receiving that
death threat. Yeah, we won't be able to appear.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
I'm down for that.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
You reckon. We can worm our way out of some
work for claiming that's a death threat.

Speaker 3 (01:51:43):
I've got some comfort watching.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Some politicians and have done that recently. Phil. We'll get
you in before the break day, get.

Speaker 18 (01:51:51):
A toilet or you Yeah, goody, very very good. Yeah,
they're quite funny this boys. I'll read it off three
shows comfort shows, and then I'll say about the Essex
are the ones that I jog people for and I
remember growing up watching all those great like Dad's Army
Oogan Heroes, Happy Day, brilliant stuff. She is and even

(01:52:13):
signed for the degree. But my three comfort shows that
just come to mind would be Married with Children with
old el Bundy. So it was so un PC when
you look back on it was so funny you could
laugh at things in those days. There are also the
Young Ones and Charlie Yeah yeah, and also Two and

(01:52:34):
a Half Men with Charlie Sheen when he was in it. Again,
so funny, so.

Speaker 2 (01:52:38):
Many people texting through two and a half men. That
is a much more popular show than I knew it was. Yeah,
I mean and ended it ended in tiger blood and
all kinds of craziness from from Charlie Sheen.

Speaker 3 (01:52:50):
But outstanding here for I mean, it did seem to
go down. Hell when who took over from Charlie Sheen.
He's a very famous Yeah that's yeah, the same, the.

Speaker 18 (01:53:00):
Same, Yeah, no, no he didn't. He didn't have it
like Charlie Sheen did.

Speaker 2 (01:53:05):
Yep, sorry, sorry for show, that's all right.

Speaker 18 (01:53:08):
He didn't ask him, of course, he didn't have it
like Charlie Sheen did. And I judge people for watching
shows like Real Housewives of Orange County and that sort
of bollocks and made an ethic and you know, all
that sort of all that sort of I'd like to say, crap,
if it's all right, but and married, we're married with
married at first site and nets or those realities, especially

(01:53:31):
those Real Housewives of Orange and Hollywood house Wives, and
that you think these is these they got so much
money that they can light their smokes with it, you know, And.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Yeah, absolutely, Phil thank you for your call.

Speaker 3 (01:53:43):
Just on those reality TV shows, it is I mean,
it just feels like they jump the shark every single
episode because they try and get more and more extreme
and I just can't buy it. Like Maths Married at
first site, they try and make it more extreme each season.
If you love Maths, why tell me nine two nine
two text through? What do you get out of it?
It's like cocaine for some people.

Speaker 2 (01:54:01):
What does this text mean? The Muppets? You muppets? That's
from squid.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
Oh fear harsh, but fear right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:09):
I'll tell you what. One hundred percent agree with this
text here. Father Teed is great comfort show boy, oh boys,
Father Tied a good show if you can winkle that
show out and tragically Father Ted himself the actor who
played and passed away when it was absolutely at his prime.
But Father Tied is such an outrageously good show.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Ye makes you feel good? Eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It's eight to four.

Speaker 1 (01:54:31):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between.

Speaker 8 (01:54:36):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons used talgs EDB on
newstalg Z.

Speaker 3 (01:54:41):
EDB good afternoon. We've been talking about comfort shows on TV.
Couple of text. Here come on, guys, comfort TV really
life as short as it is, and you wish your
life sitting in front of TV. Get out there and
love life. Greg, Oh, we're gonna have to watch some
t Yeah, exactly. Our ghosts easy to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:54:55):
No man with the fantastic Rose McIvor a KeyWe she's
done very well in the States.

Speaker 3 (01:55:00):
Yep, someone agrees with you. The US Office. I have
watched all four seasons, all seasons rather four times, and
the most the ultimate comfort TV show for me all
time just can't be beat as Country Calendar.

Speaker 2 (01:55:14):
Well there you go, so here we go. Here's the
top five. I've collated the votes the top five comfort
shows that came through on nine two ninety two, two
and a half Men, The Office, Friends, Country Calendar go,
Kiwi and then and Seinfeld at number one, great, last
they go, and the most judged for watching and expectedly,
well expectedly was Maths.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
Very good. Well that is us for today. So time
for you to wrap up, Matt, and don't make it
up this time because yesterday you did say the met
and Jury show, So no more there, please.

Speaker 2 (01:55:43):
I don't know why I call it the Mett and
Jerry Show. Okay, thanks to all you great New Zealanders
for listening this afternoon. The complete Matt and Tyler Afternoon's
podcast will be out on about half an hour on
iHeartRadio if you get your pods, so if you missed
any of our excellent chats, listen to the pod. It's
a good time. As always, the powerful Hither duplessy Ellen
is up next. Until next time, wherever you are, whatever

(01:56:06):
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a taste of carewy for me.

Speaker 1 (01:56:12):
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