Full Show Podcast: 29 January 2025

On the Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Full Show Podcast for the 29th of January - what do you do when confronted by a child throwing a tantrum in public?

Our suburbs seem to be littered with supermarket trollies. When did it become ok to wander off with a grocery trolley and abandon it - and did the police go to far in Rotorua with their action against the homeless?

What’s your team? In Auckland there's a battle between the Blues, Warriors & Auckland FC and it got Matt and Tyler thinking about the biggest team for cities and towns around the nation. 

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
All right, your great New Zealanders.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
You're listening to the Matt and Tyler Afternoons podcast for
the twenty ninth of January.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
And look, twenty.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Twenty five is the year, as you probably know now.
It's just trying to work out what number podcast it was.
I said I'd do it overnight, but I didn't.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
We made some promises.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Someone can someone with that out for us? Yeah, yeah,
message it through. I don't know, come through to Matt
Heathan z it on Instagram. Tell me how many podcasts
we've had, because I thought it would be fun to
start say what number is?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You know what number? We are? Full show podcast?

Speaker 4 (00:43):
No, that's not We should have outsourced it. Yeah yeah, Anya, please, yeah,
what a.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
Work it out so that we can say podcast number
one hundred. We can celebrate when we get to one hundred.
Must be getting close.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Anyway, great show. Today.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
We had a controversial call that came through about Betsy.
Oh bitsy, yeah, bitsy. Some people want to jail eighty
three year old blind Betsy. You'll enjoy that call. But
but yeah, set to download and follow and such, and
thank you so much for listening to the podcast, and
give a taste a Kiwii you seem busy, will let

(01:17):
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Speaker 5 (01:19):
For insightful and entertaining talk.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
It's Mattie and Taylor Adams afternoons with the Volvo xc
N eighty on News Talk sev.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
Well get a welcome into the show. Wednesday, seven past one, KA,
matt feeling good, Get a tyler.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm feeling incredible.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
As I was saying to you before, I went through
all the recycling bins in my neighborhood like a creep
to see if people were recycling properly, which I don't, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Just to test that expert that said that eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Percent of recycling in Auckland, eighty percent is getting recycling
in Auckland, yep, I think, judging by the twenty or
so bins I locked in, I think he's entirely wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:56):
But didn't that feel nice?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Mate?

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Being that smug? You know, That's the feeling I get
each time I put my rubbish through the dishwasher. It's
just that feeling that you know, maybe I'm doing something nice,
maybe not, but I feel smug about it and that's
that's good enough for me.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
Well, yeah, i'd feel embarrassed about putting away my rubbish
to the disrosher an assue from yesterday. Let's just say
I'm pushing back on that expert we had on the show.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Yeah, absolutely, right onto the show today after three o'clock.
This is going to be a good discussion around the
regions in towns and cities of New Zealand. It was
on the back of the sports inside a column and
it's headlined Blues versus Warriors versus Auckland FC. Who will
capture our sporting affections?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, which got me thinking, what are the I guess
premium teams of each individual vigial city in the country.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Because right now there's a.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Huge battle between the Blues and the Warriors, and Auckland
FC is coming up strong as well, and the Breakers
are in the conversation as well. But across the country,
you've got your premium team in each city.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Haven't you.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, And it's not always that. It's not always the
rugby team anymore.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
It can be hard to determine. I mean in christ Church,
I think it's pretty well known that for most of
christ Church, they love their Crusaders.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Anyone coming up close to the Crusaders in Christ not
a chance, not a chance.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
But in Crusaders Country because the Crusader wider area. There
are places like Nelson where you'd say the Crusaders might
be second to the.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Markel, definitely second to the Marco. And I might I'd
say even the Nelson Giants basketball team might be pretty
close to the top as well.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Yeah, and in in the Cargo, I don't know. I
reckon that the Sting might be the top franchise.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
And in Vicago they get a good crowd down there
now le Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
What is and what should be if it isn't and
what's the up and coming if it's currently not the
number one sports team in your city?

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty nine two nine
two is the text number.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Look forward to that discussion after three o'clock. After two o'clock,
a bit of a war of words have erupted over
the stealing of supermarket trolleys and road to ruers. So
there was a police operation that targeted rot Us homeless
rolley users, among others, in which saw thirteen people arrested,
forty five trolleys returned to stores and nineteen trespass orders issues.

(04:17):
So some have pushed back at that operation, saying it
was taking advantage of vulnerable people, but most with the
nottot it always says good job needed to happen, including
the mere.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, it sounds like vulnerable people were taking advantage of
other people's property.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Yeah, so you can't steal and say, well.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
You can sort of understand. I mean, if someone else
has stolen the trolley and it's just left on a
berm and a homeless person feels like they need it
to wheel this stuff around, then they're they're receiving stolen property.
They're not actually the direct the direct stealer of it.
But shopping trolleys belong to the supermarket and that's where
they should be.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's where they should go back.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
We've got a problem in New Zealand about just taking
these trolleys, Willing Lilly, and it's just to annoy with me.
There's something about what is it about supermarket trolleys that
we think, hey, it's okay if I just take this
home or chuck it into a I.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Think there's a certain sector in New Zealand that is
very anti supermarket and feels like they're gouging out undue
profits and almost have a vengeful nature against supermarkets and
going we play this as much for grocer as I
can take the trolley. But I mean that is you know,
that could slide across every part of society if you
don't stamp it out as quickly as possible. And look,

(05:27):
as I told you, Tyler, I've been guilty of being
a steamed Dunedin local and writing a supermarket trolley down
London Strip, so I'm not without guilty.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
But how far was the I mean maybe not when
you came out of the trolley, but at the time
it was quite fun.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
I can't cast the first stone.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
But nowadays I see a shopping trolley, just someone walking
down the street with a shopping trolley, and I think
you are you are lame, apathetic and lazy.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Live and learn. You've got a bit of leeway.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
By the time you hit what twenty four you should
know not to steal the supermarket trolley. That is after
two o'clock because right now we want to ever talk
about kids misbehaving in public, specifically on plans. This is
on the back of a woman who was flying to
her destination, and during that she denied a request to
give her window seat to a young boy who was

(06:17):
sitting pretty close by. After the boy began to cry,
the mother of the child took her phone and started
recording the exchange with this lady, accusing her of lacking empathy,
which is a heck of a thing for that mother
to do. I've got to say is pick up the
phone and start recording and say, how dare you not
give your secret life crying child?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
But that's the worst part of society at the moment
is even I'm getting out of their phone and filming
each other.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Yeah, I find that gross when you film people.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
This is going to go up on sachials. I'll put
this up on social media and shame you. But the
wider question we want to talk about here is screaming
kids on planes. Should parents take their kids on planes
if they're going to scream if that was the case,
and how do people travel? In my opinion, we're all
kids at some point. That's how we get to adults,
and we have to move around and they have to

(07:06):
be out in the community kids. But what do you
owe to are the other passengers on the plane? In
terms of a kid screaming right through the night in
an international flight. And on the other side, what does
a parent owe you if you're just another passenger on
the plane or is it a whole species issue where
we are all the same species and at a certain

(07:26):
point in our life we're screaming screaming members that species,
then we stop at one point.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
If you're a parent, Love to hear from you, if
you've been in a situation like that where your child
has just started screaming or crying in a full airplane,
and what did you do in that situation? What was
the response from fellow passengers? Are we getting better at
accepting kids will be kids and actually showing a bit
of empathy. And certainly, if you're someone who has been

(07:51):
affected by this on numerous occasions, would you be up
for the idea of adults only flights if you pay
a premium to not have screaming kids on board? Love
to hear from you on Oh, eight hundred eighty ten
eighty nine two ninety two is the text number.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
And can I just say go from the southern sting
to the southern steel. Okay, I said the southern sting, right,
I mean the Southern steel.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, there we go. We're going to get a lot
of that after three o'clock. You know, I've I've been
out of the South for a while.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
It is thirteen past one oh one hundred and eighty
ten eighty is the number to call back in a moment.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
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Speaker 4 (08:39):
Dead, be good afternoon, sixteen past one. Have you ever
been in a situation as a parent when your child
has just flipped out on an airplane? And what happened
in that situation? What was the response from fellow passengers?
And if you ask someone that flies regularly, do you
think you've got a right to complain when a child
it does cry during the whole duration of a flight.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah. And also you know, if you have traveled with
a parent, you're going to tips to deal with it.
How you actually deal with the screen and get on
a plane.

Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
You know the first text that came through as band
aid the mouth and compulsory mouth tape.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I don't I don't think that's a respected way to
deal with the screaming get on the plane.

Speaker 4 (09:21):
No, I think there'll be a few eyebrows raised oneering.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Them up by a hostage.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
I think you might get more eyebrows raised than the
eyebrows raised for a screaming kid.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Yeah, one hundred and eighty ten eighty as the number
to call get a tony afternoon.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
I obviously.

Speaker 7 (09:43):
Well.

Speaker 8 (09:43):
I was growing up.

Speaker 9 (09:44):
It was a famous saying with children were seen but
not heard. And I'll tell you what if I played.
My father said to me, once more, you keep crying,
I'll give you someone to cry about.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
Yep, and I shut up.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
I've heard that line many times.

Speaker 8 (10:01):
I bet your have. Now, I've been lucky.

Speaker 9 (10:04):
I've been on planes where children haven't screamed the hit off.
But I'll tell you what, I've been a lot of
places where they do get it, in supermarkets where the
child wants to buy, wants something for mother to buy it,
and when they don't get it, they scream their head off.
Now it jumps down to parently and you've got to
teach these children rightful cradle to basically behave and it

(10:24):
be quiet. And I don't subscribe. It's not today. But
you know the old idea of speak when only one
I've spoken to that used.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
To go on years ago.

Speaker 9 (10:33):
But I think a lot of the problem is it's
the way that children are brought up and a lot
of parents they have this thing today and you probably
see it yourself where out the child is allowed to
run free do it. They like scream their head off
and they do nothing about it. And that is why
a lot of these things have very unfortunate. But until
the changes, you're still going to see the sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Going off tony when the kid is a toddler, though,
pre speaking.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
It's that they I mean, how do you deal with that?

Speaker 3 (11:01):
I mean, you can't say stop crying or give you
something to cry about to someone that can't speak you.

Speaker 9 (11:06):
No, no, you can't.

Speaker 6 (11:08):
But it's a baby.

Speaker 9 (11:09):
That's a different thing in God.

Speaker 10 (11:11):
But you know, you see it.

Speaker 9 (11:13):
I'm talking about children that are a little bit older
than that baby. You can do about it. And also
we're crying, and I do a lot of texting work now.
I've had mothers in my child for kids that screen
as they hit off really young, you know, and the
mother quickly goes straight to it to console them. But
a lot of children you let them scream, they'll cry

(11:34):
themselves out. Another words, they'll stop it. A lot of
them are seeking attention straight away and ignore it unless
it's a health issue or something. Sometimes they'll stop, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (11:47):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I had a friend who said that one of their
kids never cried when when there was a baby, and
then the other one dead, And then they realized that
the other kid slept in a room way down the hall,
so whether they were crying or not, they didn't hear
thee I moved into another house in Auckland where the
kid the next kid was much closer, and they worked
out how the kid was crying a lot. But actually

(12:09):
I haven't done it. I haven't really investigated how each
of them turned out.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
But what was that? Back in the day, there.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Used to be a child psychologist that everyone used to
read called Stranger. His name was Spock, not not star Trek,
not the star Trek spot.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
But he was a big proponent.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Wasn't he letting the kids cry out rather than then
going in concerning them?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 3 (12:33):
Yeah, I'm not sure where people stand on that now,
But yeah, I remember I remember being excited about seeing
a doctor spot book at my house and then realizing
it wasn't Star Trek and being disappointed.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Tony, thank you very much, mate, have a good afternoon,
all right, thank you. I one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call some great tics coming through guys.
As far as I'm concerned, Unless there are extenuating circumstances,
people should not take preschoolers on airplanes full stop from Tracy.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Right, so, but hang on out. So you're just yeah,
I don't know about that. What if there's a funeral
in the family or something. I mean, there's a lot
of reasons why you have to fly internationally with a toddler.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, I'd love to know what the extenuating circumstances would
would be. I mean, the text to tracys he is immigrating,
for example, would be one of them. But going on
a nice holiday to Topol, for example, You'll have to
bring your preschooler on a fight.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I think you've got to be able to bring them
on domestic flights because people can handle a baby crying
for a domestic flight. I think the only problem really
becomes on an international flight when people are trying to
sleep over a sort of twelve hour period. Yeah, but
I'm definitely talking toddless here. If you've got if you've
got a five year old screaming and yelling on a plane,
that's a totally different issue.

Speaker 4 (13:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Absolutely, someone that can be negotiated with.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. Nine two ninety two is the text number back.

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Speaker 4 (15:43):
News Talk ZEB twenty five past one. We're talking about
young children who flip out in public places like flights aeroplanes.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Yeah, and says, hey, guys, plane flight is bad for
young babies. The kevin pressure can hurt the ears and
need to drink to relieve this. Why aren't mothers told this? Well,
I mean, yes, okay, yeah, but I think most mothers
know that. But I think that's pretty knowledge. I knew
that when I was traveling overseas with my kids. Just
trying to get them to drink can be another issue.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Yeah, if you've been in the situation recently, loved to
hear from you. On eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
The last time I saw it happen on the flight
and it wasn't too bad, but it was a baby
and it started crying quite considerably. But the staff on
board were incredibly good. They swooped there, gave the mum
all she needed, and the poor odd mum was feeling
quite embarrassed by the looks of it. But the staff

(16:35):
on board the plane very very well trained to deal
with that. So if you've been in that situation, love
to hear from you.

Speaker 3 (16:40):
Yeah, and Anne, says Tyler. In New Zealand, we say aeroplane,
not airplane. That's us speak. This is another an, not
the other, and so the other an. I don't want
to tell you with this. Secondly, I would not give
up my seat for an inferior one. My late husband
wasn't wasn't old school GP. I thought an inferior one.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
They were.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Anne was referring to children as inferior ones, inferior in
a lot of ways.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
They're not fully developed. I'll start calling my kid my
kids inferior ones. My late Hausen was an old school GP.
When parents asked for advice for flying with potentially screaming kids,
he gave a prescription for sedation, not very PC but
worked very well. Anna, Well, that would do the job. Yeah,
I've heard a story I can't tea. I might text

(17:25):
my friend and see if I can share that about
I have to think about that. His dad was a
doctor that went back and stated, all the kids, now,
I'm not going to tell that.

Speaker 6 (17:35):
Yeah, good guys. Yeah. I used to travel around the
world about three times every year for almost twenty years
and had a lot of situations like this, and I
found the best way to deal with it was some
negotiate with the kids. I used to get up and

(17:56):
talk to them and tell them if they weren't going
to sit down and be quiet and behave I was
going to open the door and put them outside the plate.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
So this is with other people's kids, as Bob.

Speaker 4 (18:10):
Absolutely, is that negotiating or just straight.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Up threat.

Speaker 6 (18:15):
Well, they had an option, so but.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
I guess that once again, that has to be a
kid that's capable of understanding the English language or whatever
language you're speaking to them.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
Absolutely, I don't do baby talk. I can talk.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
I've been involved, Bob, in some negotiations with kids, playing
Postman with kids for hours and hours on international flights,
and that that that can be that been hard.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
That can be a hard game to get out of.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
If a kid in the seat in front of you
leans over and hands you something and then you hand
it back to them and they hand it to you
in the hand back and they're laughing that that's a
hard game to get out of.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
Yeah, it starts off well, but then when you're in
it for ten hours, that start So Bob, just just on,
so you go.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
I just get up and go to the bar and
have a drink.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
Oh well that is an old school plane. Yeah the situation. Hey,
thanks for your call, Bob. This text says, come on,
people have some sympathy for the poor parents. I'm sure
they are just as embarrassed and harassed as the next person.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I understand. I agree. I feel so.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Much sympathy for the parents when the kid's screaming and
the problem is that the parents tension goes over to
the kurd and the kid thinks is something wrong, and
it goes on and it circles around and circles around.
But I just don't think we can live in a world.
I mean, this is my opinion, and tell me if
I'm wrong. On O eight hundred eighty three, eighteenth it's
nearlys's giving out the pizzahart number again. Eight hundred eighty two,

(19:45):
eighty two, eighty two.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Eighty three, eighty three eighty three.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
That's if you want a pizza, if you want to
have a chat to us, it's one hundred eighty and eighty.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yeah, that's the one or nine two ninety two.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
But I think we're all humans, right, and we're all
in different stages of life, and at some point we're
toddlers and we need humans, and so as a community,
we need to bring up the humans. And so we
have to accept that every now and then, if is
going to be new humans coming through, they're going to
scream on planes, and they're going to misbehave in cafes,
and they're going to be a little bit of a

(20:15):
pain in the ass. But that's the price we have
for being all in the same species and trying to
move forward to the future.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Beautifully said, is it okay to intervene? And I don't
mean intervene is saying to a parent, hay.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Bob and say you're going to throw them out of
the Yeah, yeah, your kids driving me insane? Can you
shut it up please?

Speaker 4 (20:30):
I mean intervene as in trying to help you mention
they're playing Postman. I imagine that you're playing Postman with
your child. Were you no, no, say you're intervened. So
that's nice, Like I didn't intervene, but I'm not.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
If a cute little kid pops up on the seat
in front of me and hands me something over like
a little toy, I'm going to have You never been
involved in Postman with a kid on a plane?

Speaker 4 (20:49):
No, I love the sound of it. That sounds like
a lot of fun. It's all you can't get out
of the game. You're playing it three hours later.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
They're just handing it between the seats and you hand
it back, and then they hand it back and then
they laugh the hand back.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
It's wholesome. But like all kids games, they get really boring.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Yeah, but just go back to the intervention situation and
the supermarket recently, and there was a mother and I
had an enormous symbol and empathy for her, but she
had three kids with her. One of the kids was
having a massive tanty. You must have been about three
or four, and you could see she was incredibly embarrassed
in trying her best to just get through the shopping
and get the kid out of the supermarket. But at

(21:21):
that point in time, I looked at it and said,
should I go up there to see if there's anything
I can do to help? Or is that just playing?
Is that more embarrassing for that. But parent, it's a
hard one, isn't it. Like I think that's more embarrassing
for the parent.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Yeah, I mean, what can you really do?

Speaker 4 (21:36):
Because by implication of going up saying, hey, you look
like you're having a hard time there anything I can
do to help the implication is that I've got a
problem with what's going on.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. I think that the best is
to walk past and priend you. So now pretend you
haven't noticed. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
If you're a recent parent, love to hear from you
on this, if you've had someone try and and devene
to help entertain your kids, love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well, this is a great text.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Here on nineteen nine two, a little screamer about three
rows behind me on a Thailand to Sydney flight, noise
canceling headphones and music was the answer.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
PS, it was my granddaughter. Very good.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
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I believe the children our future teach them, well them.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
That's what I was basically saying, before the children are
our future.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I was doing the talkback version of this great song, right.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Let them scream on and innational flights.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
Anyway, we're talking about screaming kids on international flights and
whose problem it is and doesn't matter, and what you
should do about it. This is a text here from Christina.
She says, just been on an Emirates flight Dubai to Sydney,
crying baby one row ahead. Most people around them took
turns giving the parents a break. It was a long
overnight flight, so you know the year game. Yeah, I mean,

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so that's everyone helping out.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
That's good. And Paul says, guys, I've found that quite
often parents take children on a plane expecting the ear
host to entertain their kids. We always took with us snacks,
books and games, et cetera to entertain our child. Never
had a problem from Paul.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
Really, just people expect the hostess is to do it.

Speaker 11 (24:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
I don't know that's true, because I actually can do
it at that point. Yeah, I reckon you'd be able
to luck there.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
And this year in business class exactly, very busy delivering
drinks to the back of the player.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Peter, how are you this afternoon.

Speaker 14 (25:09):
Very well and doing nice to hear from you. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
Yeah, nice to chat. So what's your thoughts about crying
children on airplanes.

Speaker 14 (25:17):
It's something I've sort of noticed over the years, is
that children generally start crying when the plane's descending coming,
not just then. Yeah, the pressurization thing. And I've never
understood why aid appearance will be the flight of the
tendons can't do the old trek of getting the baby
to swallow or alternatively, you know, holding noose and let

(25:38):
the pressure sort of sell about. I mean, small infanteers
are a problem, and the kids are kind of course,
and I just think it's something publicly flight to Givens
need to be more aware of.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
Possibly, Yeah, and I think I think a lot of
the time that when the kids are really screaming, though,
it's because maybe and you know, kids are constantly blocked
up and they've constant I mean, that's that's one of
the main things you're supposed to do when you're a kid,
is to get sick and build up your immunity.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
To various diseases.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
So at any given time there's a high possibility of
that kid that screaming as blocked up, making it even
harder for them to clear the pressure and therefore making
it more painful for them. And if you have a
little kid, you've got no idea what's going on. Suddenly
you're sitting there, and then and then your head starts hurting.

Speaker 8 (26:23):
Good news.

Speaker 14 (26:23):
All right, thank you, all right.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Peter, you call Peter.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Do you think times have changed a little bit where
we are showing more sympathy to those parents or less
sympathy to those parents?

Speaker 2 (26:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I feel like as a society we're less sympathetic in
a way. I think a lot of people don't have
kids now until a much later period in their life.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
So, I mean you haven't had kids yet, No, so,
and I have. And because I've had two kids, I'm
so much more sympathetic to parents and what they're going
through because I've seen it. But I think before I
had kids, I'll be like, God, damn, screaming kid.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
On a plane, You're ruining my life. You know, I've
got a horrible hangover from.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Three nights in Las Vegas, and I have to put
up with this, you know, And then you've had kids,
and then your empathy I reckon. Well, well, I think
two things happen. Either he goes to the parents or
you go I was a better parent than that. And
then some people take the judgmental line.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yeah, would you ever pay extra for an adults only
flight if you were away for a massive weekend?

Speaker 2 (27:21):
What kind of adults only flight?

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Whatever you want if you pay the right rice, but
yet a massive week in in Vegas. You know it's
going to be a tough flight home and you just
want to make life easy for you. And it's adults only,
no kids on board, so you're not going to have
any screaming, even if you are sympathetic. Would you pay
a little bit more for that?

Speaker 2 (27:39):
I don't know, would you?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
I mean, business class doesn't tend to have a lot
of screaming kids in it. But there's a possibility, a
slim possibility, there is a possibility, But I think you'd
probably get quite a lot of good service on that.
There was a person texting before here where he said
he moved because there was a screaming kid on the flight,
And I can't find the text to your soul, just
paraphrase it. He moved so that the kid could be

(28:02):
in a better position to be with the parent over
by the window seat. And he got moved to the aisle,
which wasn't great, but he'd done the good deed, so
all of a sudden he's moved.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
To business class.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Fantasty.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
That's a one one, yes, the story we need to hear.
That's always a possibility. Now, Oh, eight.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Hundred and eighty, ten eighty is the number to call.
It is twenty to two. Bag very shortly.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
You're listening to Matt and Tyler Good Afternoon.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
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Speaker 4 (28:36):
There'd be seventeen to two.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
We're talking about our kids on flights screaming and yelling,
and whose responsibility of that is and should parents fly
with toddler's, et cetera. My sister Catherine just sent me
a text going, hey, Matt, great chat is also as
always thanks big.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Do you remember mum talking.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
About our trip here from England when you were four
and I was seven. You're always so happy as a baby,
but We were just starting the mess of flight home
and you vomited all over Mum and Dad and a
passenger beside us. They managed it well, but I think
the whole plane stunk of spew for the whole flight.
All right, and don't mention on here what you did
in Akaroa anyway, Love you from sister Catherine.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Thank you for that, and tell me.

Speaker 4 (29:17):
I still want to hear what happened in Akkado. That
sounds like a story. One hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Some great texts coming through
on nine two ninety two. This one says I'd rather
be dealing with a screaming kid than severely drunk people.
I had to put up with two drunk ladies on
a ten hour flight, did my head and at least

(29:37):
a child is able to be comforted.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
That's from Louie.

Speaker 3 (29:40):
I had to deal with two really drunk people on
my flight back from Paris last year, and those two
drunk people were my very good friends Maniah and Joseph,
just all night and watching it was great with live
sport on there, buto boy, they were causing some problems
for the past.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
And so you were sober and the boys we're getting
on the lash. I didn't say that, Oh well, it's
not that hard then, is it a phrase?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
How are you very good?

Speaker 4 (30:08):
How are you goods? Now you got a story about
screaming kids on a flight.

Speaker 15 (30:13):
Just just the more it's more of a funny.

Speaker 16 (30:15):
It was that there's two little funnies that have evened
with our boys when they were growing up. At our
young aiden, we were in the shopping wall one day
and he was helping. I'm buying something out of the
house of the supermarket and we just said that, and
he had an absolute tantrument, feet, hands, the whole thing,
screaming on the supermarket floor. My wife put a nine

(30:36):
dollar ninety I stag on his back and walked off
let the and this poor lady who was behind us,
he said, you can't do that, And I said.

Speaker 11 (30:47):
Do you watch.

Speaker 17 (30:52):
It?

Speaker 16 (30:53):
I meant you you would relate to this with two boys, right.
And then the other funny was we were flying and
to run my night for morphand and it was a
screaming Southerly and the pilot said to I said, we've
got one go. If we don't get down, we're going
back to orkhand And it was just that was a
real roller coaster. Was inside to side, back to back,
upside downing third and all that sort of thing.

Speaker 11 (31:15):
And we went on.

Speaker 16 (31:16):
We got on the debt and Cameron, our elders, looked
up at me and he said, oh, can we do
that again, daddy?

Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's so good.

Speaker 16 (31:26):
So there's two of the funnies who took the funnies
that really stuck out when our boys always they're not
quite so. Now they're with their own kids, so look
forward to hearing their stories about their team trumps, the
new year, their flights and all.

Speaker 9 (31:42):
That sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
Thank you so much for cool father.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
This text, this text is going to rack people up
on nineteen nineteen parents. I have no sympathy for cream
for screaming kids. They choose to have children, Why should
everyone else suffer their life decisions. If you can't control
your kids on a flight, don't travel with them. Flight
attendants shouldn't be responsible for kids. They already have enough
adult children to deal with kicking up as stink.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
There you go. It pisses me off when people relied
on me as a flight attendant. This person was a
flight attendant to manage their kids.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
Yes, there's only eight crew for an economy cabin with
four hundred plus customers in it.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
That's a big point.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Parents who travel to take their kit babies todder's on
holiday are stupid.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
It's a waste of money. So if you take your
kids on holiday, you're stupid.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
It is a waste of money.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Though sometimes taking a toddler, well yeah, I mean that's
what that is.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
You know, when you're a kid and you see those
amazing holidays that you went on before you can remember anything,
you go, I went there, that looks amazing.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
I can't remember it.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Boy my son when we took them to the Grand Canyon,
and when he was a little toddler, he wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (32:49):
Even look every direction you go. He look away from
the Grand Canyon. That hurts. That hurts.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
Yeah, So if it's to visit family overseas, then only
travel if you can handle your kids. Wow, Texter, so
absolutely no sympathy for parents.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
Parents, How do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Tickst On.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Morris this afternoon?

Speaker 18 (33:09):
Are very good lads. I've got a story that happened
just before Christmas. But when the our kids are run
be five, we doped them when we traveled and we
left them within then and we went. She was down
the back.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
What did you do? What did you dope them with?

Speaker 19 (33:22):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (33:22):
Vallium?

Speaker 18 (33:23):
Oh it goes a great But anyway, I think half
the problem is with children as appearances are incompetent in
Lincoln boots and the kid said, no.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Well you're doping the libellium.

Speaker 18 (33:34):
No.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (33:36):
With the pub when fourteen, I was at the local
pub before Christmas, right on a Sunday, heaving a quiet
here watching the races in Hong Kong. Had a free
who had a horse racing in a group one. There's
about eight or ten of us at the table, just
enjoying the thing. But the music on this particular child
run around and was screaming. Everyone started leaving because it
was screaming out of control. Mum and Brenda are just

(33:58):
quietly having a beer lit the kid run around like
a luner tack. After an hour and a half and
the kid had been there for four hours, an hour
and a half that I'd had enough. Give a little
tap on the armas oh wait, pull your head and
go and sit down in your seat. What pursued after
that was the most shameful thing from a parent. They
got up and made this big song and dance and

(34:18):
on severely assaulted their kid. They goal one one one
and all the pub actually got clothes because they didn't
the nonsense that the parents made. And I said to
the grandfather, I said, you never say anything about.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
The kid's probably a good kid.

Speaker 18 (34:30):
That's the way you bring it up. He'll be the
kid who drives drunk because he's got no responsible in him.
You've never give him any responsibility.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
That Morris, I don't know a.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Hell of a thing to us. As kid.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
You're always going to get in trouble if you go
around laying hands on other kids. In twenty twenty five,
twenty twenty four, when that happened rightly or wrongly, I
wouldn't recommend it.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
Morris, thank you very much for giving us a buzz.
He loves spending time at the pub, Old Morris, doesn't he.
One hundred and eighty eight eighty is a number to call.
We'll have time for another a few more calls very shortly.
It is eleven to two.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
Maddy Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty Matt and Tyler Afternoon with the Volvo
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Speaker 4 (35:19):
They'd be, Ali, good afternoon to you. How are you good?

Speaker 8 (35:24):
Afternoon?

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Good?

Speaker 5 (35:25):
Thank you?

Speaker 8 (35:26):
Yeah, great show, guys. I think it's a great topic.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Thank yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
And so what do you do. Have you got children yourself, Ali, Yes.

Speaker 20 (35:33):
I have.

Speaker 8 (35:34):
I have a couple of teenagers, and we've got this
funny story to share. I always book ourselves as bad
as possible in the cabin because.

Speaker 21 (35:45):
I always, you know, have this thing about the children
in the front, usually around those best in nete seats and.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
All those sorts of things.

Speaker 21 (35:52):
Yeah, and my boys have always asked me, so little dad,
why do you always book those seats at the back?

Speaker 10 (35:58):
Now?

Speaker 21 (35:58):
Once, like last year, we went flying to Dubai on
this long haul flight and I was busy and I
didn book the seats, and then we ended up in
the second row after that best.

Speaker 8 (36:09):
Inat role and there were I think nine seats in
front of us, and there were eight children. And you
could imagine that.

Speaker 21 (36:19):
Long flight, I don't know, twelve fourteen hour flight to
Divine and with that many children, there was always someone
crying all the way through. And then my teenager boys,
they kind of they learned their lesson, and they then
they said afterwards that Dad, now we.

Speaker 8 (36:36):
Know why you always booked the backseats.

Speaker 21 (36:38):
And now they always remind me before we have to
travel to Dad, can you make sure that you've blogged
those back seats.

Speaker 8 (36:43):
We don't want to stuck get stuck at the front again.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
That's good. Yeah, Alie, thank you very much for giving
us a buzz.

Speaker 8 (36:52):
No proms at all, Kenny.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Ever a great afternoon, Thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
So I thought this is a really good text on
nineteen nine two, and this articulates what I was trying
to say earlier earlier with my I believe the children
are the future line I.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
Was running with. So this is this is said better
on two.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Should anyone that can annoy someone be excluded from a flight?
Loud adults, adults with bad bo, rude ones, people taking
too long to board.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Children are part of life.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
I have traveled with our son from when he was
fifteen months and never had an issue. Offered to hold
a crying baby for a while, I've offered to hold
crying babies for old entertained the older kid. I have
seldom had a child upset for the whole flight. Yes,
make sure you're prepared for everything. Lay down the law
for older children on how to behave easy. But yeah,
I agree with that. It's say, sure, you know older
kids is a different thing. But it's pretty hard to

(37:39):
judge a parent around a toddler. You don't know if
the toddler is sick and they've got the air pressure issues,
and you know, people say, well they need to suck
on a bottle. Maybe they won't suck on the bottle.
They don't know, they're holding their heads, they're in pain. Whatever,
older children, you've got a that's on the parent a
little bit more if an older child's being a real dick.
But yeah, what about the stinky people on the plane?

Speaker 4 (38:00):
There's plenty of annoying adults on a plane. There's always
at least one.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yeah what about drunk people like me and my friend
friends on that flight that would have been terrible and
also adults with bo that includes us as well.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yeah, exactly, the people that stand up as soon as
the flight lands man that does my hidden Yeah very good.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Yeah, I agree, drunks more annoying than young people. Kids
don't have a choice in flying, you know the rest. Yeah, see,
it's the drunks that are the problem.

Speaker 19 (38:24):
All right.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
The children are our future.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
Yeah, children are a future. The drunks and the stinky
people like myself are not the future.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
We're the past.

Speaker 4 (38:32):
Great discussion. Thank you very much for all your phone
calls and texts on that.

Speaker 2 (38:36):
Right, everyone was a baby once. Be compassionate. That's what
I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (38:39):
That's the slogan we that is the slogan. Perfect way
to finish right. Coming up very shortly after two o'clock,
we have a chat about the trolley problem. Too many
thefts of trolleys and places grow to it all and
elsewhere around New Zealand. So what do we do about
all these trolley thefts? And why do we have this

(39:00):
weird thing in New Zealand that we kind of think
it's okay to just nick off with.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
The supermarket trolley.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
Love to hear from you on oh eight hundred ten
eighty nine two nine two is the text number four
minutes to two U sporting weather on its way.

Speaker 20 (39:15):
Rivers.

Speaker 5 (39:30):
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That you have been dreaming.

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Lead you to alone.

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Speaker 1 (40:15):
Talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams
afternoons with the Volvo XC nineteen US talk.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
They'd be good afternoon to you. Hope you're having a
great Wednesday. Welcome back into the show. Seven pass too,
so this is going to be a good discussion. A
political war of words has erupted over the police's Operation Trolley,
which targeted to do his homeless trolley users, with some
calling it a direct attack by the government on impoverish people.

(40:45):
With the three day police operation, it saw thirteen people arrested,
forty five trolleys returned to their rightful place, the stores
where they came from. A nineteen trespass orders issued that
has been backed by a lot of people, including the Mayor,
Tanya Tapsule. She said ratepayers shouldn't have to foot the
bill for cleaning up after the homeless, while MP Tom

(41:06):
McClay said the or the Multi Party were the ones
that had a crank at the operation. They said that
the comments were out of touch with how locals were
feeling and Police Minister Mark mitchelsey police weren't forcing the law.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yeah, so what's the problem there. I don't get it.
If you don't own the shopping trolley.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Then it's not yours and it needs to be taken
back right.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
Yeah, I mean it's clearly theft. And you can have
sympathy for people that find themselves in a situation of
being homeless, but they're still taking something which is.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Not their is Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:35):
So as the argument that because the people in need,
they can take whatever they want, because that would start
to get pretty ridiculous because what say, for example, they
decided they needed your bike, and you go, well, this
is a homeless person they need to get around, so
they can take your bike that's locked up.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
That's a nice sea bike you got there. Mind if
I have it because I'm homeless, Well, we're going to
charge it for one but yeah, you're right, how far
do you go on?

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Or they need your house?

Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, so they go, I can just take your house.
So you come home and a homeless person's living in
your house. And the need was that they needed a house. Yeah,
the shopping trolley's not their. So I don't think there's
any issue you at all here. I think it's odd
that people think that they can take a shoping trolley.
I wonder if there's anyone out there eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two that thinks

(42:17):
that they have the right to leave a supermarket with
the shopping trolley.

Speaker 4 (42:22):
So this is outside of the car park. As soon
as you leave the car park at that point, you
have no right or no reason.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
To take that trolley to outside of that car park.

Speaker 4 (42:31):
Of course you don't. It belongs to the supermarket, right.
I've got a scenario for you, okay. So Betty, Betty
is eighty three years old, she can't drive anymore because
her eyesight's not that good. She's gone down to her
local countdown and she's got her trolley there and she
lives about three hundred meters away, and she needs to
get the groceries back, and she her strength doesn't quite

(42:52):
what it was, you know, in a younger day. So
she's it's a weekly shop because she's got a budget
for this, so she needs to get it all into
the trolley. And because she doesn't have a car and
it's too short for public transport, then she just takes
the wee trolley back to her home.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
And you can trust Betsy. She she's been around along.
Is it Betsy or Betty Betsy both?

Speaker 18 (43:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Betsy is her nickname.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
She's well known at this count Yeah, so they call
it Betsy, her legal name is Betty, and she takes
that outside of her car bar key point for it.
It is a key point. I've really painted this, Betsy.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
Let's got it.

Speaker 4 (43:27):
Betsy's nice is and it rolls off the tongue. So
she takes it out of the car park, takes it
back to her home with the intention of bringing the
trolley back the next day because she's forgotten some items.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Is that okay?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Lock her up, Lock Betsy up, and throw away the key.
She's a dirty thief, nothing more and nothing less. No,
I mean, in that example, sure you can go to
that extreme, and I'm sure that no one's going to
rumble Betsy's long she intends to return the trolley. Yeah,
but I mean how many Betsy's are They'll have three
hundred meters from the supermarket.

Speaker 4 (43:56):
Yeah, well yeah, and there's a high possibility Betsy, you know,
she she doesn't want to take it back, so she
just throws it into the local ditch.

Speaker 3 (44:03):
How much simply is this just a reason? And because
I think this is happening more? Although if people lot
of fans of the TV show Trailer Park Boys and Bubbles,
I mean, he's he's big on fixing the supermarket trolley's cats.
Yeah and yeah, there's a great bit look at up
online of how he's fixing the supermarket trolleys, throwing the
ones down away bit And that's the reason the old show.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
But it feels like.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
More and more people are just thinking they can leave
with the supermarket trolley. So that is that because people
have negative feelings towards the supermarkets now because they feel
like supermarkets are ripping them off. Is that the motivation
or is it just because people just don't care, They
just think they can can connect things.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Because I'm a.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Pretty loose individual, pretty easy going individual, but there's no
way I would ever just leave a supermarket and wheel
the shopping trolley home. Yeah, and you know, so the
homeless issue is a secondary issue because I don't know
how many homeless people are stealing the trolleys.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
I think they're probably mainly coming across them on the
side of the road. Still no excuse, you're you're receiving
stolen property.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
What I thought was even worse, And this is when
I was a trolley boy back and Nelson, I would
have been about sixteen great teas given anti Betsy rhetoric
coming he doesn't have many fans through here. But when
I was a trolley boy and I just couldn't understand
the amount of people. So this is a countdown. It
was Woolworth back in the day. I suppose it's back
to Wilworth now, but it was very close to a
river on the car park and the amount of trolleys

(45:34):
I had to try and fish out of that river,
there was no point that people so well, it must
have been for a bit of fun. They'd take the
trolley out to the car park, unload the groceries into
the car and for a bit of a giggle, would
just push it down the bank into the river.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
It's anarchy, that's absolute enarchy. Yeah, I mean it gave
me a job at the end of the day.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
So but you know I was the one that had
to wait until into the my tire river to fish
out these trolleys and with.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
The trolley's usable after they had spent time in the
my tie.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Yeah yeah, I didn't have to clean them up after.
That was somebody else's job. So maybe you know that
employed too.

Speaker 3 (46:05):
There was bubbles from trailer paper boys job. I mean,
it amazes me what people do. And look, as I said, before.
I'm not without guilt. I rode a supermarket trolley down
London Street and dunedan once after a few drinks. You know,
I'm not without guilt. But nowadays if I see someone
it makes me so angry on my street, when there's

(46:25):
just like everyone's trying to keep their booms all nice
and tidy and they've got their lovely street, and then
someone just walks home with a trolley and just haves
it on the ground. I just think, I just can't
get my head around who thinks that's okay?

Speaker 4 (46:39):
Do you feel the same about someone taking road cones?
Mentioning duanedin? You know that was a rider passage for
a lot of people that take a road cone or
maybe a road sign.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Admittedly I did get in trouble with the cops one night,
the constabulary, the lovely Consteadily of Duaneda enough to spending
an entire night loading a bunch of road cones into
a flat, but those were different times, different times. I
think it's more amusing to do something with road cones
because there's four thousand times more road cones than we need.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Out there, and way more versatile for the shopping trolleys.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
They belong to the supermarkets, so you use them around
the supermarket and then you put the stuff in your car. Okay,
that's that's that's it, Betsy, you're going to jail.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty. Is it just
playing theft? And should people like Betsy be prosecuted? Throw
the book at them? Or is it a little bit
we're going a little bit too crazy on people who
do take the supermarket trolleys. Love to hear from you,
nineteen ninety two. It's the text number. We'll get to
some of those very shortly. It's fourteen past two.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Look her up.

Speaker 1 (47:41):
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Speaker 5 (47:49):
Call Oh eight hundred eighty eighty News Talk.

Speaker 17 (47:52):
Said, be.

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Good afternoon, sixteen past two. Is it ever okay to
take a supermarket trolley outside of the car park? A
lot of teaps coming through on nine two ninety two.

Speaker 14 (48:04):
A lot of.

Speaker 4 (48:04):
Bitsy hates it. I hate It's Betsy was the eighty
two year old woman who need did the trolley to
get her groceries high.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
And she's a fictional lady that you made up to
make a point. She's got Arthur Ryder.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
She can't carry the groceries like she used to be
able to know that fair point. A lot of people
are saying Bitsy should get her own trolley.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Yeah, well, well that's right, and you can get those.
You can get those trolleys. But i've seen them on
the Coronation Street.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Yeah yeah, they're nice looking.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
You can decorate them and everything, Like how.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Much is bitsy? Did you say that she loves by herself? Yeah,
well how much does she need a full trolley?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Anyway? It doesn't matter this anyway.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
Yeah, no, there's no sympathy for Bitsy's listening to get.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Bocked down and Bitsy love Betsy.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
All right, yeah, all right, Ellison, how are you?

Speaker 7 (48:41):
Yeah? I am fine, thank you. Hey. Look, I've got
a bit of a different point of view on us.
These people that are homeless, A lot of there alive
in those trolleys, Like they need a means of carrying
stuff around. And I'm not condoning that they should take
this supermarket trolley, but I think it's really unfar on

(49:03):
a lot of them. Some of them are mentally unwell.
And also there's no alternative to some people. So maybe
there could be a niche somewhere there that if they
had an alternative to be able to carry their lives
around with them as they need to do, maybe all
pitching supermarket trolleys might stop. I just think, you know,

(49:25):
it's they're already down on their luck, and to arrest them,
it's just to me, that's not the solution. The solution
is finding out how they can help these people. And
I'm not a too good a type of person, but
I just feel they need help and to punish them
that way it's just not quite right to me. I
think that there could be a better alternative.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah, I mean I've got a certain amount of sympathy
for the homeless people that are using the shopping trolley
because they're unlikely to have stolen them. But the shopping
trolley still belongs to the supermarket, so that has to
go back. That's still theft. Or our homeless people could
take whatever they want that they need. But yeah, I
mean I do have a certain amount of somepothy that
a lot more sympathy than I do for someone that's

(50:10):
just walking their their goods home from the seminar. I mean,
as there some kind of I mean, how much is
that shopping trolley costs? I locked it up before. Shopping
trolley costs upwards of three hundred dollars for the supermarket.
Some people are saying five hundred and four hundred. I
found about three hundred dollars for a shopping trolley.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
It's a steal. And I get that.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
I get that it's helpful for homeless people getting around.
I mean, jeez, I know it's not a great life.
There was just wheeling stuff around in a shopping trolley.
I mean, is that just enabling a lot? Is that
just enabling a life that isn't great for anyone?

Speaker 7 (50:48):
No, I don't think it's enabling at all. People get
into all different circumstances that run to that. You know
that they end up losing their homes, even like there's
the economy like it is, and they do get mentally
all some have got problems with it, alcohol and drugs
and things. But I think if they've got all the
beading and all, I'm only talking about homeless people here,
I've got the beading and their life and maybe guitar

(51:10):
or a doll and toe, and I think to take
just say, you can't have it take and not sort
of put an army out to say, look, how can
we help you? Yeah, you know, is there a niche
product out there that is a trolley that can be
purpose cheaply or even god to say Winds actually have

(51:33):
something in the background say look we can help you
with this.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Yeah, well I'll tell you what Ellison, I mean, there's
a and it hats off to your empathy. And I
think we can all feel empathy for people who find
themselves into this situation for whatever reason. But the people
heading back this, say the Multi Party, and I don't
want to make this political, but they could instead of
saying this is an attack on vulnerable people, why not
set up a charity to say we're going to provide

(51:57):
trolleys for vulnerable people. You know, that's a solution, rather
than just saying this is too much. Actually it's set
up a charity to say, hey, we're going to help you.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
And look, I guarantee the police, guarantee that the police
weren't going up to homeless people kicking over their shopping trolleys,
dumping their stuff on the ground and arresting them.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
And I don't actually know who was arrested.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
It isn't actually saying the story, and we could actually
try and find that out, but it was my understanding.
I don't think it was homeless people that were getting
arrested for using the shopping trolleys.

Speaker 2 (52:24):
I think it was people that.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Were grabbing them, because I've been around the people's houses
that aren't homeless by virtue of them having a house,
and you know, they're using the shopping trolley for a
barbecue or something.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
You know, yeah, which is just wrong, isn't it. You know,
it doesn't make a good brazier, but we all know
that's theft.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
You do have a very valid point about a charity,
and I think that's an excellent osey, and hopefully our
conversation that we're having now might spur them into thinking, actually,
you know, that is a good idea that there is
a need, So let's see if we can fill that
need and help help the homeless people.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
You're wealthy, you're wealthy politicians that are blaming other people,
then I'm pretty sure you could afford some shopping trolley
type things and give them to them if you care
that much.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
You know, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year
can buy a lot of trolleys.

Speaker 7 (53:12):
Oh yes, I absolutely agree. But you know, but a
charity would that or anyone that can you know, some
entrepreneurs somewhere who's I mean, hey, it's a worldwide problem,
isn't that people use trolleys to get their lives around.
So maybe somebody can come up with a cheap alternative
that they can sell to the government as a Here. Look,

(53:33):
this is we're prepared to do this. You know, there's
an opening obviously to help these people.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Well, thank you so much, Thank you so much for
your call, Ellison, appreciate that. Yeah, I mean it'll be
interesting startup to get involved in homeless person shopping trolleys.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Yeah, would would you have to? You have to make them?
So they were clearly not supermarket shopping trolleys because I
was thinking before I could buy a your example of
this person Betsy, right, you could buy her a shopping trolley, yeah,
and then she wheels it into.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
The susy was your grandma and say, you know, Nana,
I'm going to suit yeah and buy you a supermarket trolley.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
Yeah, and you can wheel it and wheel at home.
And then there's she's canny. One thinks she's stealing the
shopping trolley and look at that old lady, she's taken
off with that trolley. Yeah, so you have to be
pretty clearly not a shopping trolley. Shopping trolley. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
of cops.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
The second question, another question on this that I'd like
to get people's opinion on.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Is it not our job to as.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
The government and the police to be running around getting
shopping trolleys back for the supermarkets? I mean, you know
they have some places where the shopping trolley's a geo
locked that they can't leave the premises, they stop moving,
or there's the other ways where you have to you
have to like put some money in the shoping trolley
and understand that happens in Australia to make it go,

(54:51):
and then it stops going.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
You know, it's like a wee bond system for you trolley.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
So ordered the supermarkets just I'd love to hear from
someone that runs a supermarket. Actually, do they just take
into account into their budget that they're going to lose.

Speaker 2 (55:03):
A certain amount of shoping trolleys?

Speaker 8 (55:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
And if shopping trolley costs three hundred dollars. I mean
I spent six hundred fifty dollars at the supermarket last week.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
You know they could have almost taken the head on
me taking that.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. It's twenty four pasts two back in.

Speaker 6 (55:18):
The mo.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh, eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on News Talk ZEDB.

Speaker 4 (55:29):
Ye News Talk zed B twenty six past two.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Oh, this is lovely, mate.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Those who know, those who know all know when it
comes to shopping trolleys, you can't help but bring up
the theme to trailer pape boys. Anyway, that's another issue altogether.
This is a serious news show, Tyler.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
Okay, well, yeah, somewhat serious. I shouldn't have mentioned this
fake old lady called Bitsy because there's a lot of
texts coming through having to go at Betsy.

Speaker 2 (55:56):
So let's forget about Bitsy. She doesn't exist, and it's
all good.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
And there's there's another type of shopping trolley thief right
that isn't a homeless person. They're people that in and look,
you might want to own.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Up to this.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty or nineteen nineteen. They're
people that live in apartment buildings and they neck the
shopping trolleys and they use them to take stuff up there,
up their elevators to their rooms.

Speaker 4 (56:21):
Yeah, we were having a tend people building about that.

Speaker 3 (56:24):
There's people living in fancy pants apartments far from homeless,
that are dirty shopping trolley thieves that clog up the
car parks of high end apartment buildings with their shopping
trolleys just so they can carry this stuff up the stairs.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
That is the worst, in my opinion, is the number
to call again A Darryl Hi, Very good. What's your
take on the trolley thefts?

Speaker 15 (56:51):
Hey, Well, firstly, I want to bring that bed secrets.
I don't want a problem with bed secrets. There's not
tony bed seeds out there, so that part's fine. One
the thing I would say, I didn't I didn't quite
realize that the road tones are a new home. So
you've taught.

Speaker 10 (57:05):
Me something there.

Speaker 15 (57:08):
And then the other thing I'd say is I won't
say where I work. We work with quite a few
homeless people with addictions issues and all that. Now, everybody
needs standards, no matter who you are, and I think
I basically would love it if you've got Radwity Waititi
or the other leader of the Pati Marii on your
show and quickn't about it because I don't get where

(57:30):
they come from. But we all need standards. I'm really
thankful that my parents hit standards when they raised me. Otherwise,
who knows. I might be an anarchist or something, and
I think, what's wrong with standards? I just don't get this,
like a shopping trolley attest if I take it away.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
You know, well do that absolutely, Darrel. And it's sort
of I was sort of saying in a slightly different way.
There's always needs. We've all got needs and and but
there's also property ownership.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
So my example I gave before, you might you might
say that you need a bicycle. You might say you
need You might be walking down the street and say
I need someone's.

Speaker 3 (58:06):
Food that they're eating and grab it off them. Yeah,
I mean there's needs and this property.

Speaker 15 (58:10):
Yeah absolutely, I mean sometimes we once some needs mixed up,
you know, quite like a million dollars I don't have it,
But that doesn't mean I can go out and rub
a bank for it.

Speaker 10 (58:19):
That's wrong.

Speaker 15 (58:20):
Shop It is the same deal. It's still this, you know,
And I think if we're going to change and improve,
then some of the things that keep us locked into
the lifestyle we're living. So I've got a change. And
if one of them is stealing shop, start out instead
of lying skirts trolleys and then they talk GPS. If

(58:41):
you need one, you.

Speaker 8 (58:42):
Know you can I one.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
Yeah, yeah, but you can see that there's a sort
of situation where the homeless person hasn't stolen the trolley.
What's happened is they've come across the trolley that someone
else who's bought their grocees wheeled at home and take
them into the house and dump the trolley and the
homeless person picks it up. So they're just sort of,
in a way, finding something that's on the side of
the road. They're not the master criminal in this situation. Well, also,

(59:06):
I agree that they should have that shopping trolley taken
off them and return to the supermarket if that's possible.
I don't think that that homeless person's really the root
cause of the of this problem, would you agree with you?

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (59:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (59:18):
And I think see where I work, if I go
for a walk down the road, there's a couple of
shopping trolleys in the drink. I mean you're playing shopping
trolley's all over the place. These those they're in bitches,
they're in trains, they're in the sea, say everywhere. And
I think it's a good un not for the environment.
Maybe the green should go onto the in the environment,

(59:39):
and you know, maybe they could set something up so
shopping trolleys don't go where they shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (59:43):
Yeah, they're all, thank you very much. And that's a
fair point when it comes to and again we're not
making it political here, but those who are pushing back
the multi party. Look, it's we've all got sympathy for
people who end up homeless for whatever reason. But the
fact that they're just having to go about returning the
trolleys to their rightful owner instead of saying, hey, we're
going to come along with the police, they can take

(01:00:04):
the supermarket trolley back. We've got a brand spank and
you trolley here from you from the Multi Party fund
and job done.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
Then that solves the problem instead of whinging about it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
Yeah, yeah, you'll be interested to see how much direct
help has actually been offered to these people in this
and that circumstance but yeah, as I say, property is property, yep.
And as soon as you start start a blurring the
lines between what people need and what people taking, just
taking what they need, then that gets very very confusing.

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Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
Thank you very much, Chyleen. It is twenty one to three.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
His text here on nine two nine two on the
shoppy trolley dropping trolley incident. Anyone with no sympathy for
Betsy doesn't deserve to get old.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
That's from Georgia. But you made up Bet.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
Yeah, so we just want to if you've just tuned in,
I mentioned a character called Betsy. She's aty two years old,
she's got Arthur Ryder. She doesn't live too far away
from the supermarket, and sometimes she takes a supermarket, probably
outside the car park.

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
You were trying to test the gray areas on my blanket.
You should never take the tropping poly the shopping trolley
that you don't own out of the supermarket car park.

Speaker 4 (01:02:29):
I was trying to tug the heart strings of the
good and z B listeners, but they saw through my
rooms and.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
I said, lot Betsy up. But there's only because Betsy
doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
And the amount of Texas that came through said yeap
Betsy's head a time. Lock her up. She's stealing that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
This is an interesting idea from Warwick. Pay homeless people
ten dollars to return lost trolleys.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I like that idea. Yeah, would that work?

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
I mean ten bucks is ten bucks. I would return
supermarket trolleys for ten bucks. I'm not stealing them. I
just want to make that clear. But if I found them,
you know, you find four.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
There's forty bucks taking work off homeless people. Muscle the
trollies off them.

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. Kerrie.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
How are you this afternoon? Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
We've got any Carrie yet?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
There we go.

Speaker 19 (01:03:14):
Count Becky shues the thief.

Speaker 4 (01:03:16):
A lot of people already have Carrie. I think I
think the police are at at her house right now
and she's been carted away.

Speaker 19 (01:03:24):
Well before I had my car, I used to go
down to Countdown just down the road here. Well, it's
not just down the road there. It's a bit of
a walk. But I went over to one of my
Asian emporiums and they had those nice big bags that
are on wheels, yes, with a nice long handle you

(01:03:47):
can pull along behind you. That's what you do. You know,
it's taking a trolley. It's just like shoplifting, it's not right, Yeah,
an expensive, very expensive, those trolleys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
It's funny because there's probably a lot of people, Carrie
who would not shoplift, but would steal the trolley exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
But if same, but it's the same, it's exactly the
same thing. Yeah, yes, well thank you.

Speaker 19 (01:04:13):
Now I see trolleys throughoutd my area on the corners
of streets and all that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah, would you not?

Speaker 19 (01:04:21):
Right, you go to your local cheap Asian emporium so
you can get one of those big baskets on wheels
with nice to candles. You can just pull along behind you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Yeah, huh, that's a that's a good tip.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Carry Would you would you take the trolleys back that
you see for ten bucks if the supermarkets were going
to pay you for that?

Speaker 19 (01:04:40):
Well, I'm disabled now and so I couldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Right, Yeah, Now, fair enough too, Kerry. Nice to hear
from you. I mean, it is a weird thing, hasn't
it meant that for some reason supermarket trolleys are just
kind of exempt from from theft laws that I don't
know what it is. Is this just a New Zealand
thing that when it comes to trolleys we kind of
of turn the other way when we see people walking
out of the car park with the trolley when anything else,

(01:05:06):
if they were walking away, I don't know, with the
supermarket sign out the front, you'd be saying, excuse me,
I don't know if you can take that. But when
it comes to a trolley, a lot of people just say, oh, yeah,
she'll be right. Nine two nine two is a text number.
There's some great texts coming through.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Hey, guys, sick of these pharaohs thinking they have the
right to take these trolley supermarkets need to have a
payment system that you get your money back when the
trolley's returned, or the brake system which stops them leaving zones.
Those are the same people that think it's fine to
park in disabled parks.

Speaker 2 (01:05:34):
That's from guy. Yeah, but I'm kind of like that.
That's annoying though, because you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Have stinct people that steal trolleys, and suddenly I'm having
to pay to use my trolley at the supermarket when
I'd never steal one. Yeah, I don't know the answer
to that. That's an answer across all kinds of things,
isn't it. It's the same thing when you know you
punish the majority for the behavior of the minority.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, I mean that.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Always seems happen with alcohol laws as well. Everyone that
behaves quite well on alcohol has to be absolutely restricted
because some people are terrible on it. Yeah, that's the
kind of thing. But I mean, yeah, I mean that's
in a dream world when you can say, look, everyone,
just grow up. It's still shopping trolleys. How about this
level of entitlement that I want to add to the
to the story. So I was talking before about people

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in apartment buildings that take the shopping trolleys home with
them and then use them as their transport system from
the car park at the elevator.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Buggers to their apartments.

Speaker 4 (01:06:23):
Outrageous.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
There's another level of those people that have been informed
on informed of that then start chaining the shopping trolley
down in the car park to their to their area
in front and in front of their car to their
cupboard down there, so no one else can use the
shopping trolley that they've stolen as outrageous. So they're quite
willing to take a shopping trolley from a supermarket, but

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now that they've stolen it, they've brought it back to
their bottom.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
That's theirs. No one else is going to be using
that shopping I've.

Speaker 4 (01:06:49):
Seized property that is outrageous. Eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to caller. It is twenty to three.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
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Speaker 4 (01:07:09):
They'd be seventeen to three.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
And there's a bunch of people pointing out that the
suggestion that paying homeless people for supermarket trolleys to return
them would not work.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
And yeah, I actually just read this thing recently called
the Cobra effect. Have you heard about this? It's like
skewed incentives.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
It was a situation that happened in Delhi in the
eighteenth century where there was a whole lot of cobras
in Delhi, and they wanted to clean them up, so
they started paying people to return cobras. So they bring
a dead cobra and you'd get some money. And they
thought they would get rid of all the cobras. But
of course what it meant was cobra breeding. Breeders just
started up, and then the amount of cobras increased because

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people were getting money for the cobras, if you know
what I mean. So, as someone said, if supermarket trolleys
supermakers gave ten dollars for each trolley returned, I'd quit
my job and go grab one for the supermarket, walk
with it around the block, bring it back pocket ten dollars.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
We'll keep doing it all day. That's from Gaza.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
You can imagine a situation where a homeless person wheels
up with twenty trolleys they've just got from the trolley
return area.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Myself.

Speaker 4 (01:08:08):
Two on a bucks, good point, always a floor, any
good idea?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah, that's a you should read up on it if
you can. The cobra effect.

Speaker 3 (01:08:14):
It's a it's a really interesting, uh look and to
skewed incentives, David, how are you this afternoon?

Speaker 11 (01:08:21):
Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
How are you good? Now? You reckon you're a bit
of an authority on supermarket trolleys.

Speaker 11 (01:08:28):
Yeah, well I've been on Mastermind.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
You've been on Mastermind on supermarket trolleys.

Speaker 11 (01:08:35):
Supermarket trolleys. Yeah right, not really, I'm own thousands of them.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Gonna I was gonna ask you if you've got if
you won the cheer?

Speaker 11 (01:08:44):
Yeah, you know the the Aukland Trolley Derby is coming
up next month and supermarket trolleys are a perfect candidate
to the win.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
That is the red Bull series in the domain.

Speaker 11 (01:09:02):
Yeah, supermarket trolleys, you know, but you're kind of denying
people the chart to show their stuff. Well, enter a
supermarket trolley.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Well, well they could buy a supermarket trolley. Looked it
up before.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
You can get one for about one hundred and eighty
bucks for a low rint smaller one or about three
hundred dollars for a full sized one. So not denying
them the opportunity. But does red Bull allow you to
enter with a trolley you've just grabbed from Willworth?

Speaker 11 (01:09:30):
You don't necessarily have to have grabbed it from all
with that, like one of your callers said that they
are dumped everywhere, and a lot of the supermarket trolleys,
a lot of the supermarkets they don't want them back
because they're either outdated or there they've got a slight

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bit of rust on them.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Yep.

Speaker 11 (01:09:57):
You never see a supermarket trolley with rust on it
at a supermarket.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
I been looking, but I suppose you're right.

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
Yeah, those ones are always scrapped. And if you go
into any wreaking yard, any car wrecking yard, any engineering shop,
they all use supermarket trolleys to push engine blocks around them.
They're actually supermarket trolleys. They're actually too good to carry food.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
Yeah, I mean they're they're they're fantastic pieces of engineering
construction and very handy. But you know, if it originally
belonged to the supermarket, and whether they want it, not
want it back or not, it still belongs to the supermarket,
and a crime has been committed against the supermarket by
the trolley being stolen. Even if down the track about
that supermarket that trolleys now now being damaged, that's sort

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of hardly the supermarket's fault, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
It's like if someone.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Stole my car and then and then they try to
return it to me after it had been burnt out
and then they said you don't want to back, I'll
be like, no, because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Been on fire doors. I see what I'm saying there, David.

Speaker 11 (01:11:06):
You know well, I mean, when did you ever hear
of someone going to prison for fifty years for serving
a supermarket trolley?

Speaker 18 (01:11:16):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:11:16):
Never, never, And I think and hopefully that will never
happen because that would be I think that would be
the punishment not fitting the crime.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
That there would be.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
A terrible, terrible situation. But you know, if you want
to enter the Red Bull super Trolley race on on
a supermarket trolley, then I know, I think, I think,
I don't know if they investigate it, but I think
it should be a trolley that you own and not
one that you've that you've I mean, it is complicated
if you came from you know, as as I see

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your point actually, David, because what you basically Tyler was
saying before he used to have a job pulling supermarket
trolley's out of a river.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
And so if someone pulled that.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Seramaker trolley out of the river and used it in
the Red Bull competition, I'm probably not going to ask
the police to go around and smash them up, you know,
no tases them as they go past, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
But again to your other other the cobra problem similar there.
If someone like you, David, you love your trolleys because
are perfect for the red Bull race, And so you
take a trolley from the supermarket, dump it into a
river and tarnish it up a little bit. Then you
take it back and say, hey, I found this, do
you want it?

Speaker 20 (01:12:20):
So?

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Oh that's a bit rusty. Now you can keep it,
see what I'm saying.

Speaker 11 (01:12:24):
Yeah, but it's not something that I would entertain.

Speaker 3 (01:12:28):
Yeah, yeah, Oh well, hey, thank you so much for
you for your call, David, who thought that supermarket trolleys
would get so philosophical and operate in such a gray area,
although we should talk about it, would be remiss if
we didn't mention that whole supermarket trolley theory and that
you know that it's a good way to tell if
someone's a good person whether they return the supermarket trolley

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back to the what do you call it the supermarket
you used to work in the business, the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Collection trolley trolly bay.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, yeah, because there's no punishment for not doing it,
but it does take quite a lot of effort. To
do it, so you can actually tell the moral character
of someone at a supermarket whether they turn the trolley
to the trolley bay.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
Now you do that, I know you do.

Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
I do that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
But here's the big question. Did you do that before
you knew about the trolley theory? Because that's the true
test of morality, that if you've always done that, whether.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Or not you heard about that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:21):
Yeah, whereas Jason Wall's a political correspondent, he only started
doing when he found out that you're a bad person
if you didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:13:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's no morality stance. Oh, one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call. We have time
for a few more phone calls. Very surely it is
eleven to three.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
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Speaker 5 (01:13:48):
Have it all you talk said?

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
Be eight to three.

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
How about this text here in nineteen nineteen sub subway
near me keep a pack and save trolley out the
back and use it to cut their rubbish out at
the end of the day. You'd think one business wouldn't
steal from another, or the manager would go and buy
their own car, a dirty old subway.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
A multinational getting involved in a packing saves trolley.

Speaker 12 (01:14:12):
See.

Speaker 3 (01:14:12):
But this person said, good ay, guys, I work in
them all, and it's just common practice that contractors, me included,
just throw all our tools into a kmart or warehouse
trolley and use it for the day's work. The trolleys
don't get taken off site, but technically we're still stealing
the trolley for the day's works. Oh you know, I'm
not going to send you to prison for that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
No, but this goes way further than the homeless. Everyone's
neck and trolleys. I don't know, it's so widespread, Catherine, Now.

Speaker 7 (01:14:36):
You hi, Hi, how are you doing?

Speaker 19 (01:14:38):
I'm I'm not.

Speaker 20 (01:14:39):
I don't think that it's the homeless that are taking trolleys.
I've worked with the homeless for about the last ten years,
and I haven't seen dramatic increase in their trolley use.
I mean, of course, I've always used taken a the
old person's taken one and then and then. I mean,
but that's that's no more than and the super markets
would seem to tolerate it. But I think that what

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the problem is is that and I've noticed this because
I love them to really close to the countdown and
also opposite a side road where I know that a
mess dealer is. And so what happens is you see
I saw like twenty five trolleys lined up outside the
dealer's house. I ring super market and said you might

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want to come and get them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:24):
Twenty five trolleys.

Speaker 20 (01:15:26):
Outside that the meat dealers are.

Speaker 22 (01:15:28):
Wow.

Speaker 20 (01:15:29):
So what there are two things that happen. One is
that because there's such such a high of methent area.
One is that people use the sift market trolley to
wheel it around like the neighborhood and they'll go into
people's house and see what they can steal from outside
of the house, so like a little statue or lun

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mara or whatever, and that gets put in the supematic
trolley and then brought back the mess dealer so that
they can sell it. And the other thing that happens,
I mean, so everybody around our neighborhoods had stuff stolen,
and you don't bother reporting out to the place. It's
just like if you leave something outside, you can expect
it to be not to bay somebody and even people

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that have got it on video. I mean the place
don't do anything about it. And the other thing is
that people will load up at the safe market and
load up a whole lot of food and big guys
and they'll just walk out and the security can't stop them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
I don't think Yeah, I don't think it's the homeless
people that are going and stealing the trolleys from the supermarket.
They'll just if they've got one, that's because they've found
it abandoned.

Speaker 2 (01:16:39):
Yeah, that seems more.

Speaker 20 (01:16:40):
Likely to these guys just wheel it around the corner
and take it to the dealer. They take everything out
and that's like, that's how they do, and then swap
up for a bag and then you know, which is
why there's so many trollings.

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
Well, thank you so much for your call care And
that's a good way to If that's how it works,
then if you see a house with twenty five trolleys
out the front, then go and knock on the door
if you're the police.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
Is that the new shoes on the power lines?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Hey guys, I once removed one hundred and seventy trolleys
from a well known hard where a store says this
texture on nine two nine two. They were going to
end up in the scrap burd and were too good
to scrap. Yes, I sold them one to ten at
a time. Took a few years. Still have three left
if you want them. Well, only three left from one
hundred and seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Yeah, that's a good work at well. They make good barbecues.

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
One hundred eighty ten. Yeah, it's o eighte hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Actually, we're
going to wrap this one up a few more texts
because we got another topic on after three o'clock. Guys,
you were wrong about this. The best parking near the
trolley return. Oh, this is something you mentioned is actually

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the park most likely to have your car damage by
people testing their skills and trying to launch the trolley
from long distance to see how far they can get it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:54):
There's just a bit of background of this.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
I said that a top tip going to the soupermarket
is to park your car by the trolley return rather
than closest to the door, so it's easier when you
come back to your car just to unload and put
it back in the trolley.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
For the kind of good person that returns the trolley. Yeah,
but yeah, you're right, there are a certain person that
I ever ever go like curls.

Speaker 4 (01:18:11):
Yeah, I love doing it that I try and get
them from five meters away just to get that perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
Line smashing it into my car.

Speaker 4 (01:18:19):
Great discussion, Thank you very much. Right after three o'clock,
what is the best sports team in your town, city
or region? It's kicked off a great story on the
New Zealand Hera. But we'll tell you more very shortly
four minutes to three New Sport and weather on its way.
Thanks for listening. Maybe you having a great afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
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and Taylor Adams Afternoons with Volvo X ninety on News
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Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
Good afternoon. Do you hope you're having a great Wednesday?

Speaker 3 (01:19:15):
Yeah, let's put the shopping trolleys behind us and move
on to the sports teams. The Blues versus the Warriors
versus Auckland FC. Who will capture our sporting tent affections?
It's an article on the Hero today. So you know
in in Auckland, you've got to say that you know
there's there's there's a battle between who's who's the top

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I guess you'd call them franchises. That's probably the way
to describe it, even though it's not strictly franchises in
the way you know it is for the Warriors and
Auckland FC, not so much for the Blues.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
Up the Wars exactly. Yeah, I mean, as the article
goes on to say, the great Blue and White Auckland team,
the Blues, featuring household names like Sir John Kirwin, Sir
Michael Jones and Zan Brook and Sean Fitzpatrick, dominated the
npc are so much they created a halftime phenomenon known
as the Hidden Park Shuffle. But certainly there was a

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time not too long ago that when you talk about
Auckland's favorite sports team, it was the Blues.

Speaker 3 (01:20:12):
Yeah, well, well yeah, I mean, you know, well I
don't yeah, the most popular sports team. You'd say the Blues,
the quintessentially Auckland's team.

Speaker 2 (01:20:21):
What's the Blues? I guess that's what you'd say, wouldn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:24):
But is it's still the case and as it and
across the country because this when I read this article,
got me thinking around the country. What teams are the
quintessential team of your town. So in christ Church, for example,
you would say it would be hard to argue that
the Crusaders weren't the top christ Church sports.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
Very very popular team down there, obviously even with the
rubbish season last year.

Speaker 4 (01:20:53):
Yeah, still very popular, wildly successful in their history as.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Anyone down there that competes gets closed.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
The Mainland Tactics netball team, actually they do quite often
sell out when they've got games there, you know, incredibly
popular netball city as well. Not to the same level
as rugby, but they are up there, Mainland Tactics.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Yeah, so let's talk about some other places. Yeah, we'll
love to hear from you on O E one hundred
and eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two if
you want to text us in your region, what is
the what is the top team? Because in Nelson, as
we were saying before, is that the mark or or
is it the Crusaders.

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
It's definitely not the Crusaders. I'll just put that out
there as a Shellsonian. Yep, my hometown. Hey, look, if
you're listening from Nelson, you'll say, shut up, Tyler, what
do you know. You'ven't been here for ten years? Give
us a bell. Oh, one hundred and eighty ten eighty.
But we they love Crusaders up there, but they know
it's the Tesman Marcos Finns up They're very proud of
that team. But I would argue Nelson Giants would be
up there as well. The basketball team. Meenad Vuchenik was

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part of that back in the day.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
And we'll going up to Auckland as are the breakers
in the conversation as the most quintessentially Auckland team up
against the Blues, the Warriors or Auckland f C.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
Auckland Auckland FC.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
You have got up the charts very quickly, haven't they
with a matter of success they've had the six season
and how while they're running outfit and what a great
time it is out there watching them play.

Speaker 4 (01:22:11):
Yeah, But just coming back to the Crusaders actually, and
it was it's been a bon of contention for a
long time for a lot of super teams that they're
not getting the same level of patronage to the stadiums
during those super competitions and that is a big thing
even in Crusader country. In christ Church, it's a seventeen
thousand seat stadiums, not a massive stadium, temporary stadium and

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they're lucky if they get half of that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:32):
Yeah, And the Warriors are selling out every game, even
when they're having a poor season, They're selling out every
game out there at Mount Smart.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
So does that count? Is it numbers? Is it numbers
through the door?

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
And I was talking before about in Vicago, you know,
and in Chicago technically they're part of it. And actually
I'll get slammed here. They are part of the Highlanders
set up. Yep, you know a Targo and Southland certainly are.
But what about the what about the Southern Steel.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Yes, it's a Southern.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Steel who are Targo in Southland but play out of
in Chicago. So are they a bigger team in Chicago
than the Highlanders are in terms of support and being
more contessentially of that of that town or is it
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:23:14):
The Stags Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call love to hear from you. Whatever
region or city or town you're in, what is your
quintessential sports team in that region? And I mean that
is interesting when you talk about in Vicargo and we
mentioned Christ Church in Nelson or Tomatoe, ash Burton. Guys,
if you're listening in those places, honesty call, Are you

(01:23:37):
saying Crusaders? If you're an ash Burden, are you looking
at the Crusader and saying that is our team?

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Through and through? I don't know if there's the case.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Another question here eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is it?
Is it the Wellington Phoenix or the Hurricanes that are
the quintessential Wellington team?

Speaker 10 (01:23:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
You know, give us a busk theel all right, nine two,
it's the text number. The text are coming in thick
and fast. It is twelve past three. Back in moment,
it is fourteen past three, and we've asked the question,
what is the quintessential sports team in your town or
city or region? Does rugby still reign supreme? And I

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think for a lot of regions I think the answer
may be no.

Speaker 2 (01:24:16):
All right, okay, controversial from you?

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
All right, well, I've upset someone in Ashburton, and fair
enough to Tyler, what do you want about I'm in
Ashburton and I'm a massive Crusaders fan from Catherine.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Yeah, well, what's the other sports team in Nashburton? What's
the what's the big what's the big franchise team in
the Ashburton, great part of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
I can't think of another sports team down there though.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Okay, well let's go to Marie. Welcome to the show.
So what do you think is that? What do you
think is the quintessential Wellington team?

Speaker 22 (01:24:47):
Well, the Blade and the Firebirds.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
The cricket teams, the professional cricket teams down there.

Speaker 5 (01:24:52):
You got them, you got them, yep, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
I mean we have.

Speaker 22 (01:24:56):
We've very spoiled each team Wellington, I believe, because we've
got the Phoenix, the Hurricanes and of course famous cricket
teams we've got we've got a lot of I mean
we don't have rugby league team, but we've got everything else.

Speaker 3 (01:25:11):
So what do you think makes the the Firebirds and
the Blaze the quintessential team? Because you've got to say
an a tendency there. Then they're not up there with
the Hurricanes or or the Phoenix.

Speaker 22 (01:25:23):
Well actually they are. Actually they get a lot, they
get enough to be some reserves, They get a they
don't get a lot. But you see most of the
games that have been on and on and looting time,
would you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
Get people we were so so, but no, but they
don't get as many people along to the games as
the Hurricanes do though that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 22 (01:25:45):
Probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
I mean it's confusing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
You see that you see the Hurricanes playing there in
there in the Cake down and there's there's a lot
of a lot of a lot of seats that you
can see there.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
But I mean it's a big stadiums.

Speaker 22 (01:25:58):
But the Hurricanes they've been losing a lot of the
patronage of late. They haven't last year they didn't get
a lot. They weren't for the big games. Was you know,
like when got to the semi even even the Wellington
rugby team they were getting more than the Hurricanes for
a while.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16):
And what do you think that is, Marie?

Speaker 22 (01:26:19):
I think it's just a patrolic. See the Hurricanes are
for man or two Hawks Bay Wellington, you know Karen
EKEI goes with the Chiefs, don't they Yeah, No, I
just think it's but I love I love the way
that Cricket have done it this year having the men

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and women's and the men's games on in a day
and so that you can go to both and so
really it's really well don Cricket. New Zealand's got to
pet themselves on the back. I believe because they've done it,
and they've done it to try and get people to
go to the games. See Wellington's holding this weekend. We're
very lucky to we're holding the finals all in Wellington

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for the cricket.

Speaker 4 (01:27:04):
What's the feeling with the Phoenix down there at the
at the moment, Marie, is there being renewed interest on
the back of Auckland f C having such a good
season you know that competition aspect, Yeah, I.

Speaker 22 (01:27:15):
Think I think see that we've got a woman's Phoenix
here too, you see, so it makes it a bit
more two choices to go to because if the Willington
Phoenix play at at Porie Ruher and so the men
have played out there too at one time. But I
just think that the Phoenix it is harder now with

(01:27:36):
another team because it means that I think Organs are
the bigger population of course, and they've got they go
to Mount Smart, don't they.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
And it's a fantastic time out there and a great
great to watch football in the in the afternoon in
the sun.

Speaker 22 (01:27:57):
Was a great sport.

Speaker 8 (01:27:59):
Now it was a wonderful sport now.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
I'm just looking at the tendancy of the Hurricanes and
average match at tendancy thirteen point eight thousand people. That's
all right, So that's that's not a bad turnout for
for a you know, a sports team franchise. I mean
it doesn't look like a lot in the stadium often no,
but thirteen nearly fourteen thousand people, that's something.

Speaker 4 (01:28:22):
That's a good showing. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call Marie, thank you very much
from great texts coming through Yiday. Guys a New Plymouth
it would have to be the Salty Dog Darts team.
Not really sportsmen, but always out the front smoking darts, rain,
hail or shine, absolute legends. I can get behind the
Salty Dog Darts.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Salty Dog Darts team is the quintessential New Plymouth sports team.

Speaker 4 (01:28:48):
If you're in New Plymouth then you can concur with that.
Please give us a call effect if you're part of
the Salty Dog's darts team. Love to hear from you
on oh eight hundred eighty ten.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Average match to our tenants for the Warriors last season
twenty three thousand, six hundred and forty two.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
That's impressive. Yeah, that is very impressive.

Speaker 4 (01:29:05):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number of
cour Well, what is the quintessential sports team in your area?
Love to hear from you. It is nineteen past three.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty on Youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (01:29:24):
Good Afternoon, twenty one past three.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Yeahs said, the Warriors did sell out every game last year,
So that's that's pretty impressive. Will be there the New
Zealand Warriors and not the Auckland Warriors, but they play
primarily in Mount Smart. So I've got some attendancy figures
here from rugby union, from the Super Rugby franchises.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
This is a little bit old. This is this is it?
This is it from six months ago.

Speaker 3 (01:29:51):
Highlander's twelve thousand, twelve and a half thousand on average.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Yeah, per game, that's pretty good.

Speaker 22 (01:29:56):
Not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:29:57):
Crusaders twelve point seven thousand. I should have been more
for Crusaders.

Speaker 6 (01:30:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:01):
So hurricaneses thirteen point eight oct according to this, which
is slightly different from what I said before. So I mean,
as how you decide what your what team is your
city's quintessential team?

Speaker 4 (01:30:14):
Yeah, if you can sell out a game, that primary
the stellar.

Speaker 2 (01:30:18):
What I'm looking for the word for it? What is
it your marquee team?

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
Quintessential kind of sums it up. It is the team
you think about when you're in that city.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
Yeah, so if you were in LA, it would be
the Lakers or the Dodgers.

Speaker 4 (01:30:30):
Ye, right, but yeah, you'd wear the shirt if you're
in that city. So for you obviously in LA, the
Dodgers or the Lakers, which is fair enough.

Speaker 3 (01:30:41):
Yeah, or you might have multiple shirts. But yeah, the the,
the the the Yeah, I'm looking for the way to
describe it. Someone will be able to help me here.

Speaker 4 (01:30:48):
Greg, you're in Hamilton. What is your sports team that
you think about when you're in Hamilton?

Speaker 10 (01:30:54):
Well, I don't think in Hamilton. I don't think there
is one. Many years ago, it used to be the
work at a rugby team which was the Molu men
and everybody in the country, and then they franchises came
along the chief honestly the really mean have taken the
back steep, but been Hamilton here. Then it was taken
a back step again because the Rugby Union and their

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wisdom decided to take our guaranteed d specific each to
you and give it to Otargos so they'd build a
new stadium for the Rugby World Cup. So if you
go back, I would definitely say the moving end. You know,
growing up and I used to go to a lot
of games and they were always packed in kind of gunnels,
you know, I think in Rugby Park before it was changed.

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I've been there at twenty five twenty six thousand people plenty.

Speaker 4 (01:31:39):
Of times, which is good now now it is, but now.

Speaker 10 (01:31:43):
You know, you'd be lucky ten thousand of the Chiefs.
And I don't go to any of the chief games
now because it's just like I find it boring. It's changed.
But yeah, that's what I would say, would it be,
would have been? Sorry, But now I'm not quite a
hundred per cent sure. What would be the quintessential team
here in Hamilton? And it's quite sad because it used

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to be something to have and you guys are talking
about it's quite interesting because you go all around the
country and the dynamics changed quite quite dramatically. I would say.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
With the Chiefs, because the Chief's catchment is quite all
over the shop, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:32:24):
You.

Speaker 10 (01:32:24):
I think that's half the problem.

Speaker 18 (01:32:26):
You know, I do.

Speaker 10 (01:32:26):
I think that's half the problem. You know, if you
go to Thames, you can say the swamp Foxes, you know,
and everybody knows who and I think they hold more value,
should I say, than what happens in the biggest cities.
But yeah, you know, the rugby union didn't do in
rugby union didn't do any favors here in Hamilton at all,

(01:32:49):
and so I think that sort of dispelled and dissipated
the viewing all the following, I.

Speaker 11 (01:32:56):
Suppose is the word.

Speaker 10 (01:32:57):
He didn't have that one test metch every year it
look forward to watching, and so you'd go to your
local team which was like at a rugby union playing
and they had some great matches. Mate, you go back,
some of those shield matches were great matches and you
know that was the Moly parades and all those things
over fantastic and that would have been there a number
one team easily by miles years and years ago. But

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now it's quite and it sandens me a lot because
I think as sports as a sportsman country, we actually
need a bit of a following to any and to
have the rivalry and to have that, and I don't
think it's like it used to be, which is quite
sad in my in my opinion. You know, would you talk.

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
About it, would you like to see it that the
MPC becomes the the the you know, the premiere rugby
tournament as opposed to because.

Speaker 10 (01:33:55):
No, no, you can't go backwards, mate, not possible to
go backwards. So you're going to look forward something else.

Speaker 3 (01:34:01):
I had this idea and see what you think of
the one greg that you run it sort of like
a Champions Trophy kind of situation where you all the
New Zealanders teams play and then you know, you pick
a couple of teams, so the NPC kind of situation,
and you pick a couple of teams and then they
go and play the top teams from from South Africa
and Australia and in another tournament. So that's where you

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go off and that's how you work it out instead
of trying to play across the countries, because it seems
to me like Australian rugby isn't really wow, I'm Australian
rugby is in a terrible state.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Isn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:34:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:34:36):
I don't know whether that at work. I think people
want to have something a bit more local to grasp
hold off and grand hold off.

Speaker 11 (01:34:41):
But we just don't sort of have it, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:34:43):
And also with the advent of you know, the Internet,
everything's available to everybody. So the niche sports that we
used to know anything about have now become more mainstream
and so that spreads the dollar out, shall we say,
more than twenty years ago. So the conversation we're having
about a quintessential team in the city, it's quite it's

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quite different court. And you go to America, as you say,
and you talk about you know, the LA and the
Dodgers or the Rams or whatever it is. The thing
is that it's always been a franchise system there, you know,
and it depends, like you know, if you talk about
a team like you look at the Chicago Bulls. They
became famous because of one person going back, you know,

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thirty years and so that became their quest of quite
essential team. But the franchise system is a little bit
different to what we have here, and so I don't know,
I don't know how you bring it back to do that.
I think I think it would be great if we could.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Yeah, I mean, is it has very different, as you say,
because it's not like the Crusader's going up sticks and
move to Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
You know, the Rams have been all over the show.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
Yeah, I mean it's part of agreed.

Speaker 2 (01:35:58):
Sorry you go mate, I just I do.

Speaker 10 (01:36:01):
I genuinely wish we did have something like that still,
but we don't, and I don't. You can't look backwards
and say great, we can change it because it's not
going to happen. We just need to look forward and
find other ways to make things like that more to
the forefront.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17):
Yeah, I know the Crusaders are doing it more. I
think they recently had one of their games in South
Canterbury in a small town there, which is great, but
that you know, we talk about Nelson being part of
the Canterbury region for the Crusaders. But the reason why
a lot of Nowsonians I think are not massive Crusaders
fans or certainly they prefer the Marcos, is that the

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Crusaders haven't played up there for many, many years. When
was the last time they played at Trafalgar Park? Not
for ages and it's that, you know, those super rugby
teams not moving around their games to different small towns
to show the love to their supporters in those areas.
And I get these financial decisions at play, but that
to me was a massive loss when they stopped.

Speaker 10 (01:36:57):
Doing that, and then you lose the fanbase. And they
as you say, you guys are talking about that, the Marcos,
you know, they love them, Yeah, ahead of the Crusaders.
And a lot of it has to do with the
fact that the Crusaders aren't knocked on as you say normal.
They deal once a fort nine or once a month.
You know, if that's a big part of the region,
and you know, you say, financial considerations, if you're only

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averaging ten thousand people to the game. You can take
it to Nelson, you can take it to New Plymouth,
you can take it to a lot of these places.
They've got a ten thousand sea stadium where you can
sit those people in. Can they be packed?

Speaker 8 (01:37:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:37:31):
Yeah, well, I mean the Highland is head down and
play at Rugby Park in Vicago. Good they do that, Yeah,
you know, but I don't know if people from in Chicago.
I'd like to hear whether people from in Vcago feel
is passionate about the Islanders as people from a Targo
to But I kind of get I get what you're saying,
gree because when I was a kid, it was very
easy to understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
You supported a Targo because you were from a Targo.
It it was just a one for one equation. Yeah fromgo.

Speaker 6 (01:37:58):
Just just on a side.

Speaker 10 (01:37:59):
Why do you think that Auckland f C is going
so well and it's not just because they're winning.

Speaker 3 (01:38:03):
I think they've got a lot of things right. I
think it's a fantastic experience there at Mount Smart when
they play. I think they do a lot on game
day that's really well. I think they're owned and run
by people that know a lot about making franchises work.
I think they've got a great kit. I think Auckland
FC was a good name for them because it just

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made people feel like, you know, it was some sort
of Auckland pride thing that came along. I think timing
was a big part of it as well, because people
were really really keen to fire up for the team
and their fans almost appeared fully fully made because there's
a lot of love for football in Auckland that wasn't

(01:38:46):
being catered to. But also obviously they've tried it before
in Auckland before. I think a timing thing was really
good and I don't know how they managed it, but
the Phoenix Auckland f C rivalry has just gone from
zero to a hundred. It feels like it's a rivalry
that's been around for fifty years. How passionate people are about.

(01:39:08):
I think it's been well run and I think that
the winning has been a good part of it. And
I think that there's also luck and timing in it
as well.

Speaker 10 (01:39:17):
Try Beckers.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
It helps Yeah, well yeah exactly, yeah, but money helps us?

Speaker 6 (01:39:21):
Well yeah, yeah, you know, a lot a bit of money.

Speaker 10 (01:39:25):
A lot of money helps.

Speaker 19 (01:39:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Well, well that's the case.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
You take that, you go back to the rams. You know,
it took a billionaire to come in and say he'll
build so far stadium. I think there was five and
a half billion dollars to build that stadium. So billionaires
really help a launching of a franchise.

Speaker 4 (01:39:41):
Yeah, you're too agreed, Thank you very much. Love to
hear your thoughts on this as well. O eight one
hundred eighty ten eighty nine two ninety two is the
text number. It's twenty eight to four headlines with Rayling coming.

Speaker 5 (01:39:54):
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Speaker 13 (01:40:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
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Speaker 13 (01:40:58):
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You can find out more at inzed Herald Premium. Back
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Speaker 4 (01:41:17):
You very much for I Raylan. We've been talking about
a story in the New Zealand Herald and the headline
is Blues versus Warriors versus Auckland FC. Who will capture
Auckland sporting affection? So it's a hell of a headline,
isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:41:30):
Ian, Who's capturing your sporting affections across the country? But
the Warriors thanks kicking up here, isn't it? So that
has a text here from Greg The Warriors kick ass pit.
A full Super Rugby franchises can't even fill the stadium
once during a season, let alone selling it out every game.

Speaker 2 (01:41:45):
That's from Greg.

Speaker 3 (01:41:46):
But that's a little bit hard because the Blues playing
a much much bigger stadium and I've been to a
Blues game last season where they had thirty five thousand
people there with the Warriors are selling out at twenty
four and a half thousand. So it's pretty hard for
a franchise to sell forty forty five thousand tickets every game.
So you might see a lot of gray seats for

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the Blues. That it doesn't mean they're not getting a
really really good crowd along.

Speaker 7 (01:42:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:42:10):
Absolutely. I mean when it comes to Auckland. What would
you say would be the quintessential sporting team in Auckland?

Speaker 2 (01:42:17):
Well, is it? Well, here's a question. A lot of
people say this to mean a lot of Aucklanders think.

Speaker 3 (01:42:21):
That the All Blacks are their local rugby team, and
you know they go along and watch the All Blacks,
but maybe not in other teams.

Speaker 2 (01:42:29):
And it's the New Zealand Warriors, so that as that.
And are they an Auckland team.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
They are definitely an Euckland based team, they're based out
at Mount Smart But are they really the New Zealand Warriors?
You know, when they play around the country they get
really good crowds instantly. Sometimes they get a lot of
streakers as well. But when they travel around the country
they get there a lot of crowds. So I think
a lot of people around New Zealand are very proud
of the Warriors.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:42:54):
I mean there's some people that might say that the
Warriors that certainly in terms of merch sales are starting
to are competing with the All Blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Yeah, I mean the play a lot more games.

Speaker 22 (01:43:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
Interesting one with the South Island though, wasn't it is
whether people in the South would say, do do are
they part of the Warriors franchise and hype. But when
there are games down in christ Church they sell out
like that as soon as they go on sale boom,
So clearly there's massive buying for the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:43:19):
Well there's a lot of tips coming through Warriors or
day Rugby Union sucks Warriors all day. Don't even watch
the All Blacks anymore? Warriors, Warriors, Warriors, Who are the Blues?
So those are the first few texts I've read there.
But come on, where are your where are your Aukland
Blues fans? Because I think they're probably that's a tough
one to say that the Warriors are now the quintessential

(01:43:42):
Auckland team over the Blues. And then now this Auckland
f C snapping at the hills and then you've got
you know, the Breakers. They put on a great show
down at the Sparkarina.

Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
So I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
I reckon defend your team, Julie, you're in christ Church,
is that right?

Speaker 21 (01:44:00):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
And you're a bit of a.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
Leige, are you?

Speaker 22 (01:44:03):
Yes?

Speaker 23 (01:44:04):
I Mine of my brothers used to play rugby lea
for the Hornby Panthers And that's Hornby's suburb of Chross
Uture and there was a father and two sons that
used to play and they got nicknames and the one
of the father was called mad Dog and one of

(01:44:25):
the sons they used to call them Papa in yeah,
like there's a dog in a pap And last year
they won the Green Final and they've won quite a
few Green Finals and that sort of thing. But it's
extra one. I sort of.

Speaker 2 (01:44:42):
Follow love it, right, But do you think do you think?

Speaker 3 (01:44:46):
I mean, obviously don't think that they're a bigger team
than the Crusaders in.

Speaker 23 (01:44:51):
Christ but I think i'd probably go and watch the
Hornby Panthers before I'd watched the Crusaders.

Speaker 7 (01:44:58):
They're local.

Speaker 23 (01:44:59):
But anyway, that's just my point of view.

Speaker 3 (01:45:01):
On you, absolutely good on you. Would you support a
a another in ourl team and New Zealand based.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
In christ Church?

Speaker 19 (01:45:11):
Not really?

Speaker 23 (01:45:12):
No, I think that the Warriors are absolutely hopeless.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Oh really?

Speaker 4 (01:45:16):
Oh that's controversial, Julie. But would you go along because
the Warriors are going to make an effort to get
down and have some more games in christ Judge, will
you try and make an effort to get there?

Speaker 23 (01:45:25):
No, it could probably lose.

Speaker 3 (01:45:29):
So even even though the Warriors sell out every game,
and they played last year in New Zealand. You still
think that they're they're losers?

Speaker 2 (01:45:40):
Yep, they're hopeless. All right, ye, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:45:43):
What do they need to do this season to get
your get your support backed, Julie, they get to.

Speaker 2 (01:45:47):
The top four?

Speaker 23 (01:45:49):
Yeah, no thing on a woman, she would take over
the coach of them.

Speaker 2 (01:45:53):
All right, all right, would you put your hand up, Julie.

Speaker 19 (01:45:59):
Fews kicked him?

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
That would be there? Who would you boot out of
the team.

Speaker 23 (01:46:03):
Julie, Everyone that I could get near enough to.

Speaker 2 (01:46:09):
Jesus is coming in and kicking ass.

Speaker 4 (01:46:10):
Yeah, I'd like to see that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:12):
Hey, thank you so much for your call today. This
texta here says league is for people not smart enough
to watch or play rugby union. Oh wow, more Warriors
texts because all the Blues supporters are at work. Used
to be a messive rugby fan chiefs not Blues, but
now rugby has become boring.

Speaker 4 (01:46:34):
This is an example the problem with this country. All
the Warriors supporter is just happy to follow a bunch
of twenty five year losers and pay for the privilege.
Must be labors and party supporters. All right, well, give
us some bars. Oh eight one hundred eighty ten eighty.
It's certainly kicking off on the tex Massione.

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
It's kicking off between the Blues and the Warriors in Auckland. Yeah, okay,
so Warriors fans are going to you're gonna lie down
and take that abuse from the Blues fans. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty or nine two nine two.
The text number it is nineteen to four. Let's get
into it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
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Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
Call eight hundred eighty eight.

Speaker 4 (01:47:20):
News Talk said, be good afternoon, sixteen to four. Some
great texts coming through on nine to nine two about
the Warriors versus the Blues.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Yeah, we were talking about what was the coincident quintessential
team in your town. But it's just come down to
a straight Warriors versus Blues argument. Auckland f C's on
the sideline, a few people saying that the Auckland FC's
is a lot, a lot better to watch than the Warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
All the Blues.

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
Here's a text on nine two nine two supporting a
Lee's losing team. Isn't pathetic? It's called faith. Also, it's
not like the Blues have been amazing in the last decad,
I say, or decos decade or so. They suck and
so does the sport they play. Another text here on
nine two nine two Warriors equal losers, warriors fans equal losers,
and another text here, I agree the All Blacks are

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Auckland's top team. Eden Parker is our fortress. Never play
anywhere else. Surely that's just meant to roll people up.
That text, I agree the All Black I didn't say that.
I didn't say that the All Blacks are Auckland's top team.
I said sometimes I think Aucklanders believe that the All
Blacks are their team.

Speaker 4 (01:48:22):
Which would upset Cantabrians.

Speaker 3 (01:48:24):
That they're the All Blacks are one of our franchise
teams is the Auckland. There's the All Blacks, there's the Blues,
there's Auckland f to see, and there's the Warriors. But yeah,
this is surely meant to role people up. I agree
the All Blacks are Auckland's top team. Eden Parker is
our fortress. Should never play anywhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:48:40):
That's great. This one says Blue supporters are a bunch
of arrogant old timers who wouldn't know excitement if it
hit them in the face. And the very next one,
Warriors are a bunch of thugs and losers. Get a cup,
then come back to us, Blue Supporter.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
This is from Sue. Warrior supporters are like vegans.

Speaker 3 (01:48:54):
They have to tell you as much to convince themselves
that joining the Bandwiger was a good idea.

Speaker 4 (01:49:01):
Keep those techs coming through on nine two nine two, Derek.

Speaker 2 (01:49:05):
Do you agree with Sue that Warriors supporters are like vegans?

Speaker 8 (01:49:08):
Dereck, She needs to go in the washer, the dish
washer with Tyler and his recyclable.

Speaker 18 (01:49:18):
I'm a llegue.

Speaker 24 (01:49:19):
In the first game of the Warriors Tinta March ninety
ninety five Friday, I was in christ Each watching it.
And the ironic thing is my old man played for
the Kiwis and he died on the tint To match,
which is also which is my best day as well.

Speaker 11 (01:49:33):
So I'm a little bit torn this Tinta match.

Speaker 24 (01:49:35):
But yeah, but legal all the way, worries all the way,
and they've got.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
To be So what do you say, You're from your Canterbury.

Speaker 24 (01:49:42):
Though, Yeah, I'm from I'm from christ each yet.

Speaker 3 (01:49:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And but but you're and what do
you think about the Crusaders? What do you think about
rugby union?

Speaker 6 (01:49:54):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (01:49:54):
Yeah, yeah, I mean well, yeah, yeah, I mean I don't.

Speaker 24 (01:49:56):
Mind watching her a good game of rugby, but some
of them it's a bit like probably Sky at the moment.

Speaker 11 (01:50:02):
You know, it's just it's just not happening sometimes.

Speaker 24 (01:50:04):
And I don't know's I could split the air, no worries,
but I get lost in rugby sometimes I just get lost.

Speaker 6 (01:50:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:50:11):
And when it comes to being a Warriors fan, is
there something about, you know, the hype and the crowd involvement,
because most people would admit to that right that the
Warriors crowd at the stadium are second to none in
this country in terms of the hype and excitement and backing,
particularly of a team that hasn't won in a long time.

Speaker 11 (01:50:30):
I've to be honest, I've.

Speaker 24 (01:50:31):
Only ever been to one game at the stadium.

Speaker 8 (01:50:33):
It's so much easy to get the toilet when you're
at home.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
Mate, you guys, yeah, thank for you call Derek.

Speaker 3 (01:50:40):
Well, yeah, I look the experience, you know, watching the
Warriors is a fantastic time. It feels like you're going
to an an international sporting event like it's it's it's
getting close up to there, the experience that you get
and you know, going to you know a team, you
know American sports. Yeah, and you know I've got my
season pass for this year for the Warriors. I absolutely

(01:51:01):
love going out there. But I also love going to
see the Blues. Yeah, and I've been loving going to
see the Auckland f C as well, so you know
it's a possibility to well, I can watch personally, I
can watch a lot of sport.

Speaker 4 (01:51:12):
It's the hype of the Blues, the same as the Warriors.

Speaker 18 (01:51:14):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
Look, I'll say that it's difficult because the stadium is
so much so big, but Lily World before you go in,
it's a great time out there and at Mount Smart
and and but it's a fantastic time going you know,
I go to the morning Sign tavern and then head
along to the Blues.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
It's a good time.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
But it's yeah, it's hard to fill out Eaton Park. Yeah,
you know, you know, it's a it's a big stadium.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
The last time I went to Crusaders match, and I've
got to say, look, and I love the team and
this will I said a lot of people, but fantastic team.
But the atmosphere at that particular match was pretty woe
for I think the most excitement the crowd got was
the old Mexican wave and when you've got to the Crusaders.
Crusaders rugby, but I mean that's a that's a rubbish stadium. Yeah,
things are going to get a lot better with the
new stadium. This textra on nine two nine two Auckland

(01:51:59):
FC all the way. Any version of rugby is now boring.
Only football fans know how to chant loud and give
real sport. Yeah, and the port knows that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:07):
I mean yeah, as I say, the organative Sea fans
turned up and just showed the country how you really
rip it a new one to support your team that
has only just coming to existence.

Speaker 4 (01:52:18):
Craig Well squeezing before the breakday, mate, Yeah, I'm suger hearing.

Speaker 25 (01:52:23):
About FC and rugby and league. You've got speedway that
runs every Saturday night right across the country and they
get tens of thousands of people every Saturday night. You know,
the different speedway tracks around the country. That's a huge
thing for people, but it's often for god.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
What what speedway do you go to generally speaking, Craig, oh.

Speaker 25 (01:52:48):
Western Springs and a Western Springs at our motorcycle track
and Evandale.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
What what do you what do you feel about the
speedway moving out to work Areca Park.

Speaker 11 (01:53:01):
It's not going to happen.

Speaker 25 (01:53:03):
It's not going to happen. We've we've we've formed the
Western Springs Speed Association and we're taking the councils, guitars
and we're gonna win. Has been a lot of underhanded
things happened. Is a great article coming out of the
Hills I've been tomorrow by Bernard Ornston. You guys know

(01:53:25):
you know from your office. Yep, fantastic carnival and that
spells everything that's happened and how bad it is, and well,
well when speedway will be there for another ninety five
years county.

Speaker 3 (01:53:38):
But as I recompact that, because I've I've been out
there to the speedway a few times and it's it's
been a good time.

Speaker 25 (01:53:43):
Listen, White Rack parts, a great speed, great track for
stock cars. Two different, two different disciplines.

Speaker 2 (01:53:52):
Right.

Speaker 25 (01:53:52):
Not only that you look you look at Western Springs
over Christmin we were they were probably getting six to
eight thousand people a night over the Christmas break at
Western Spring the capacity at Whitecraft Parks two and a
half thousand, two thirds of those spectators would have missed
out right.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
But as the council looking to invest the money in
the in the stands out there. Look, sorry, I don't
know a whole lot about it, but I heard that
they were going to maybe increase the cassody.

Speaker 25 (01:54:23):
The capacity is not really going to change, right. The
eleven million dollars meant to go to them of Western
Springs moves out there is used for the whole White
Crack Part precinct.

Speaker 10 (01:54:33):
So that's the soccer.

Speaker 25 (01:54:34):
Field, the car park, there's you know, there's a lot
of misinformation that's happened about it, right, and that's why
the article, the article tomorrow is is really important for us.
Interesting King's Council working for us as well with it.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
Okay, good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
Well I'll make sure I read that tomorrow, Craig, and
I think thank you so much for your call. This
text on nineteen nine two says City Kickboxing as Auckland's
top team. You've got to say City Kickboxing has been
incredibly successful on a global, global scale.

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Speaker 17 (01:55:29):
Oh good a guys. I know I've got a quick time,
but look the clouds of chalk and fees. I'll go
and watch anything, like go the rugby. They're all sit
there dull and like don't even you can't even stand
up maybe in a try. But I went to the
nixt I went to like and like you go like that,
there's vapors and non vapors like you got. You go
to the Warriors and like everyone's just vaping their mullets

(01:55:53):
people and like the Crusaders they all go to that
smoking area if they do smoke or vape, they're so polite.

Speaker 6 (01:55:59):
It's just yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:56:00):
And even the next like there's people banging drums and
there's flags flying and it was it was a dull game,
but yeah, amazing. You're going to be boring to go
and watch.

Speaker 3 (01:56:11):
You support the Auckland see crowds. They're pretty they're pretty exciting.

Speaker 17 (01:56:13):
I will go and see them because if the crowd's lively,
you can stand up, you can chant, you can yell,
you can they sing stuff to the ref.

Speaker 10 (01:56:21):
I didn't even know that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:24):
Well, thank you so much for but.

Speaker 17 (01:56:25):
Yeah, no rugby. I do love a good game of rugby,
don't get me wrong. But as for the atmosphere, definitely
league or football.

Speaker 2 (01:56:33):
Oh well, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:56:34):
Thank you so much Matthew for your call, and thank
you so much for all our callers and texts today
and listeners. Has been a good time for the last
three hours nationwide and four hours in some.

Speaker 4 (01:56:44):
Parts of the country, certainly hairs. And we're going to
do it all again tomorrow, so we will catch you then.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
Until then, give them a taste of keyweed.

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