Full Show Podcast: 29 July 2025

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Hello you going to New Zealanders And welcome to Matt
and Tyler Full Show Podcast number one seventy one four
the twenty ninth of July and the Year of Our
Lord twenty twenty five. Fantastic chat today and look at
rop Michael Hill jeweler.

Speaker 3 (00:31):
Yeah, very sad, shocking news and a fantastic story on
Sir Michael a little bit later on the show that
you'll hear soon. And some good chat about how I
can get into shape because I've let myself go, and
a bit of chat about going commando swinging were of
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The big stories, the leak of issues, the big trends
and everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams Afternoons
News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Very good afternoon to you. Welcome into Tuesday Show the
twenty ninth of July. I hope you are doing fantastic
where if you're listening in the country, get a mess
get a.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Thailand and you've moved up to Auckland from christ and
look it's a nationwide thing. But you were about to
go to the Night of Nights. Yes, something you've never
been before.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Very very excited, the Bakeel.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
New Zealand Supreme Pie Awards. And I think it says
a lot of good stuff about our country that our
flashest awards, our oscars is celebrating pies and not something pretentious.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Exactly. It's a huge night, a huge event on the
social calendar for Auckland, not just Auckland, New Zealand. It's
a seventies dress up theme, so I'm still undecided whether
I go full noise dressed up or just looking a
bit tidy with a suit.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
But that's up to you. I can't. You know they're
not going to kick you out for not following the theme.

Speaker 3 (02:00):
I hope not.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
You'll be all right, but you know, everyone is always
it's more fun if you put an effort in, I
would say, But yeah, the awards is just so flash
it blew my mind when I first went there. I mean,
I failed to RSVP, so I don't have tickets to
night so I'm not going. Yeah, so I just I'm
terrible at at rsvping, so so I'm not going, which
was disappointing because it's the first year I haven't gone

(02:21):
in about ten or fifteen years.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
I will eat enough pies for both of us, don't
worry about and I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
That's what you don't understand, Tyler. See, you're an absolute
nube to this because it is the people that make
the pies that have been flowing up here. The last
thing they want for the meal is pies.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
So you get served a delicious meal, so there might
be a nice piece of salmon instead of a pie. Absolutely,
because you know you're getting up at four am to
make pies.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
For the rest of the year. When you're flying up
to Auckland or driven across town or whatever it is
to celebrate the industry, the last thing you want is
to pie. But there will be a pie warmer out
when you leave.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And yeah, it's absolutely fantastic at fantastic night. And you
know the advancements and pies in our country over the
last twenty years as phenomenon. I put a lot of
that down to bakeels and there, and they're pushing of
the limits with these pies. So it's a completely you know,
a lot of awards ceremonies these days are riddled with

(03:18):
politics and you don't quite believe the results. But this
is a completely blind tested competition, so it is just
the pure best of the best, and and it has
just increased the quality over the country. So you have
a fantastic time time.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
So geez, I'm excited now and.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I'm ruling my lack of RSVP.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah, I'll take lots of photos for your mate. After
three o'clock. Speaking of eating too many pies, this is
going to be a great chat. What is the best
way to get in shape fast? This was a conversation
me and you were happy. I know that I've let
myself go a little bit, that I haven't been keeping
up with with my exercise routine and I haven't been
getting down to the gym.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So honestly, I didn't notice, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
That's not what he says during the air breaking folks.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Okay, more honestly, I did notice you heavi let yourself go.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
So I said to you, I says, what is the
best way that I can get into shape super fast?
And you said, what is what's super fast, and I
said six months, six months, I want to look like
the Mini.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
That's reasonable, six six months as a reasonable time frame.
The way you were talking, it was like you were
looking for some kind of TikTok solution that will just
get you sorted in a couple of weeks. It's hard work,
that's what it is. It's eating right and it's exercising.
There's no quick solution unless you're going to be one
of those as impact sellouts.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, I reckon there might be a bit of a shortcut.
But can you hear from you whether that's forty five,
whether that is cross fit, whether it's some sort of
boot camp scenario that is after three o'clock looking forward
to that after two o'clock. Do we need to break
up with our love of property? Jeremy Williamson, here's the
head of Private Wealth and Markets at Craig's Investment Partners,
will be chatting with him during that hour. But he
said there was a momentum building for a move away

(04:55):
from our love affair with property and property investing.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
Yeah. Hey, just some breaking news here. Michael Hill, jeweler
has passed away at eighty six.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Wow, that is big news. That is said Sir Michael Hill.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Duwela a huge part of everyone's life from mass and
reinvented how jewelry stores were displayed with the open doors,
the walk in situation. He absolutely changed things, didn't he,
Sir Michael Hill.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
So an icon of New Zealand, Michael Hill has passed away.
That is some very sad news.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
A violinists, a golfer and an a jeweler.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
And a hell of a story when his house burnt
down he lost everything to create that business. There will
be a lot more to come on that story as
the afternoon progresses. But sad news Michael Hill passed has
passed away, will bring you more very shortly. Rip yeah, Rip,
So you were saying, Tyler, So after two o'clock our
lover property, do we need to move away with this
love affair? We've got a property. Jeremy Williamson is part

(05:52):
of Craig's investment partners. He says, yes, we do need
to move away from it and look at investing in
more productive areas of society. It will be better for
the country. And after one o'clock actually right now. An
expansion of paid parking around totong Is City centers to
a tanks on living in the CBD one residency. So
his name is Liam Jackson. He says, who have to

(06:14):
pay ten bucks a day to park outside his Park
Street home from August fourth, after the council decided to
expand paid parking to the city center fringe. That's over
two thousand bucks a year, he says, just to park
outside my house. That seems crazy. So the council Totong
council is deciding whether to issue resident car parks. But
this is a big one, big one for people around

(06:34):
the country. Resident car parking.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah, my opinion, it's a basic that you should be
able to park in front of your house. You know,
if you live in the CBD, was it any different
from anywhere else you live there? You should be how
to park on the street. You pay for the streets,
you pay, pay your rates at least from five pm
to nine am. And you know, mahe Dreistow's saying two
cars is too many. I don't think two cars is
too many, you know, basic and lock my opinion, all

(06:59):
parking fees a theft. You know, we own the streets.
The council doesn't. So all parking fees a theft. Maybe
parking fines are okay, but all parking parking parking fees
of thefts.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yep I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty Are you
owed a car park as a resident? Love to hear
from you on this one O eight one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call if you want
to send a text. Missions nine to nine two Coming
up though, we are going to chat to Liam Jackson himself.
We've got ahold of him and we're going to get
the full story about what he's dealing with with his
residential parking. That is coming up very shortly. It is

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thirteen past one. Your listener, Matton Tyler The.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons Used Talks B.
This is a News Talk sat B developing story.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
So, as we've mentioned, jewelry pioneer Sir Michael Hill has died.
The eighty six year old founded and grew Michael Hill
Jewelers from humble beginnings and fungoday to become a global
retail jewelry brand spanning Australia, New Zealand and Canada. He
stepped back from the business in April to undergo cancer treatment.
So sad news. Who's just repeating that and developing news
jewelry pioneers and Michael Hill has passed away.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, loomed large, didn't he? You have over my childhood
and he was on the TV every ad break. Yeah,
those ads were iconic, incredibly successful man.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Fantastic golf course in Queenstown.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Beautiful golf course.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Yeah, so as iconic, iconic, very Michael Hill jeweler.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
It was very well done. Be shocking news for a
lot of people listening, and there'll be a lot more
to come on that as the afternoon progresses. But we
have been talking about residential parking permits and parking outside
of your home. This after a total on the resident
Liam Jackson has hit back at what he has expected
to pay for parking outside his house. He calculated it

(08:51):
could be over two thousand dollars a year to park
outside his property. And Liam Jackson is on the line now, Liam,
very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Good to you too.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
So you have been up until this point been able
to park in front of your house as.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
Absolutely, I've only just moved into the to the property
as well. I used to live on a suburb in
Trannger and the listeners who knows her anger very well.
It's an interesting CBD, quite quite hard to park in
on a regular basis, and if I work in a CBD,

(09:29):
and I thought, forget this. I'm going to move into
town so I can just walk into work and park
outside my house. And I thought that would be the
end of it. And then I think, a week after
I move in, this is the bombshell story that comes
out that the parking range is going to be increased

(09:50):
and including my road, which is fantastic. And originally when
I inquired the council, they said, yep, no problem, we'll
be having resident parking permits there for you. Perfect, I thought,
And then then I wake up one day to see
that that's been by the council and so yeah, yeah,

(10:11):
your your calculations are pretty stark. But that's that's what
I would also have woke out to about two thousand
dollars a year, fifty dollars a week just to pack
ups on my own house.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
And Liam, what kind of residents are you living? And
if you don't mind be asking.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
So we're in we're in a flat, so there's a
there's a complex of of flats there on on this street,
there's quite a few apartment buildings and so there's quite
a few few of us there, and so we will
have one off parking car park as is. But I
live in a model model occupancy household, so it's me

(10:50):
and my partner and in a flatmate as well, and
we you know, have different schedules and things like that. Obviously,
you know that means one of us is going to
have to be on on the road to park, and
residents at around me are all saying the same things.
That means very similarity to the situations. So where do

(11:11):
they expect us to park?

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So you say that this is effectively like a text
on a living in the CBD, where there's a good
argument that Tyron and other councils should be looking to
revitalize CBDs. You think it's a distant center for people
to live.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
There, absolutely, I think yeah, Turannga has been going through
a bit of a challenging time and I know that
because I work in the CBD. I see it for
myself all the time. And the problem is, I think
the council are doing, actually to their credit, to some
very good work on revitalizing the CBD. The problem is,

(11:46):
you know, it seems one step forward two sets two
steps back half the time. The problem is at the
moment is that there is not many car parks, and
all of them that there are there is you know,
taken up by workers who are coming into the CBD,
And so that means obviously phisitors or customers paying customers
want to come and spend their money in the CBD

(12:07):
can't get anywhere. They just turn around. They'll go to
a shoping more instead, where they can get you know,
plenty of parking and whatnot. So I totally understand where
the council is coming from and trying to get workers
away from parking right next door to where they work.
That makes sense. But the only way to really do
that is not by punishing people who live in the CBD.

(12:27):
You know, we actually should be getting more people in
the CBD to live so then they can walk to work.
They can then spend the money with it inside you know,
all the shops and whatnot, and all the hostility that
we have to offer here. It seems very counter productive
to me that then, you know, when people myself decide
to move into the CBD to try and you know,
make it more for Liverpool City are then punished by
you know, not being able to just park outside our

(12:49):
own house. In my views of this, you know, what
we should be doing is if you want to get
workers away from those park parking spots, we need to
be getting much better public transport. We have no public
transport in the in this city at the moment. We
have a huge sort of spread in Teango is it's
a huge city, growing city and always being built you

(13:11):
know around the fringes, and of course people want to
come into you know, to drive and park into the
into the CBD to work or to you know, to
come and have fun. But there's no train, there's no trains,
there's no trams, there's not there's nothing, and the buses
are just terrible, right and so of course we're not
given any worker as any other options. So instead of

(13:31):
I guess, yeah, disincentivizing people from you know, living in
the CBD to help, they've they've gone, They've gone opposite way,
which to me just seems very consproductive.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
What would a fair solution look like to you? Are
you against paying all together or absolutely not?

Speaker 4 (13:46):
Absolutely not? You know, I as you can as your
union listeners co obably here, I've got an accent, and
you know, when I live in the UK in city
centers all the time, you'd have to pay for a
parking permit. I don't think that's unreasonable. I'm not asking
for for freebies, you know, because it is prime, prime
location that these spots. I understand that. But for two

(14:07):
thousand dollars a year, Come on, that's crazy, you know.
I think having the option of having a certificantly that
discounters don't get me wrong, you know, but still something
to put towards saying, you know, I'm living here, I'm
taking up prime retail space. I get that, but at
least give me the option. At least give you the

(14:28):
option to do so. And I think a limit on
it does not really affect on Like what Mahai said,
you know, it's everyone has different experiences and different needs.
You know, people have multiple cars in their homes for
all sorts of different reasons. Is to say you know
that I, or well or my household need one, two,
three cars, you know, I think that that that seems

(14:51):
silly to me. You know, people have all the different
needs and wants from the from their parking situation in
the CBD so.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
As because these these two things, isn't there there is
being able to find a part in your house in
the near your house, and there's there's the paying for it, right,
So are you looking for a situation where you're guaranteed
to find a park or a situation where you shouldn't
have to pay as much as people that are you know,

(15:18):
competing for the parks?

Speaker 5 (15:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Absolutely, I mean I'm not looking for a guarantee spot,
you know. I think what what you do in most
other places is you know, in the world to have
zones so the residents like anywhere in this zone, so
you know, if it's not a pace space, yeah, it's
not a space. But I think the real problem is
is that the they're hell bent on you know, the

(15:40):
reason why there's no parks anywhere in town is because
the workers are taking them up. If we gave the
workers different means or message to get into town, then
we wouldn't have that problem.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah, Liam, thank you very much for having a chip
with us, and keep up the good fight and keep
us updated with how you get on. But really good
to chip with you. So keen to hear your thoughts.
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Speaker 3 (18:03):
Twenty eight past one. Are you owed three car parking?
As a resident of one hundred and eighty ten eighty
to number four?

Speaker 2 (18:08):
Pull your thoughts on this?

Speaker 8 (18:11):
Yeah, Look, I've I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I
like to watch things as they develop over the news.
Councils want cars out of the central city, and I
would say as far as Carnell Grayland they don't want cars.
They want you to walk and bus so and train.
But what they do is they think, okay, how to

(18:31):
get the cars out, will start charging them heavily and
then we'll creep it up over the years till eventually
they get rid of their car. That's their plan, I'm sure.
But what they do is shock an or. So they say, right,
two thousand dollars to park your car, like the glass
guy said, and you're like, oh my god, hell, and
there'll be a riot. The last minute. They'll go, you
know what, five hundred dollars a year, and they go, oh,
that's better, and they accept it and then they creep

(18:54):
it up. But if you were to say five hundred
straight away people would be in the streets. So it's
quite clever the way they do it. After the world
except Europe.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
I don't want term.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
I do want to get car in the cities.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Are you finish? Sorry?

Speaker 9 (19:06):
Sorry, no you go.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I was going to say, I don't think it's a
conspiracy theory. I think that that it has been outed
that they do believe in push politics, that they that
that they believe that cars are inherently wrong, and that
there's there's a innate sin and driving them, and that
anything they can do to make it difficult for you
to be in a car, they're they're gonna they're going
to do. I think I think push politics is something

(19:31):
that they believe they are one hundred percent correct in
what they're doing, and that that people driving cars one
hundred percent wrong. So let's just make it as difficult
as we can for them. The problem is that we're
all citizens and we should be able to choose what
we want to do.

Speaker 10 (19:46):
Bing go.

Speaker 8 (19:47):
So we we've got a business in Parnell and we
said could you make outside the loading zone that used
to be and they said no, no, sorry a parking area.
They said no, it's going to be a loading zone.
Bang within a week it was. And when we said
we're our customers park, they said, they can get a train.
It's down the hill.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
That's infuriating, that's what they said.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
So that's the problem that people have because they've got
their beliefs, their ideologies, but they're willing to sacrifice other
people's livelihoods on the back of their ideology without providing
realistic It's sort of a dream world situation. It's we
believe that this is we do that. We believe this
is how people should live their lives, without taking into

(20:29):
account the realistic way that people will actually live their lives.
And you know, we're not we're in these like you
take Auckland or Totonga for example, they're quite strange shaped cities.
They're not you know, people go on their oe and
they see Amsterdam and they come back here and say,
why can't we be like that? It's because we're not
like that. And so what happens is that businesses just

(20:49):
go out of business and they continue to believe in
their ideology and they get proven wrong on over and
every again, and they move on to the next thing.
That's what happens.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
That's true, So yeah, what can we do the mound?

Speaker 3 (21:02):
I suppose, Paul, and I know that's always the case
every three years, but there's got to be some pushback.
It is patronizing. It is patronizing to hear this sort
of stuff from the councilors. And it's not just the counselors.
I think a lot of the time it's the staff
within the council. They've been there for donkeys years. They
think it's the tail wagging the dog and they call
the shots. And I know I've talked to counselors and
it does their heading that these upstart numpties and the

(21:24):
staff within the council have these ideologies and they try
and push back and they get you know done, They
go behind their backs to get these things across the line.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, but I think part of the problem as well,
you know, like maybe it's the people in the deep
state that Tyler's talking about there, but it's also people
could go through and look at what individual counselors are
voting for and if your counselor is safe. For example,
you know when they say thirty kilometers an hour, right,
this is my bugbear. They say it's for safety, but
it is just to choke the living life out of

(21:54):
people in casts. It's really where we're at. So if
you take people take the time to look at what
councilors in their individual area have supported what things, and
if you see that they've got an agenda that's against yours,
then you've got a vote against them. But you know,
will that change everything anything? I don't know. Not when
people are only thirty percent of people are viting. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

(22:17):
I thank if.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
You called Paul, Yeah, great call. Do you agree with Paul? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Are you owed free
car parking as a resident? That's the discussion we're having.
Coming up very good text here having a massive crack
at developers. We'll get to that very shortly. It is
twenty eight to two US talk.

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Speaker 3 (23:48):
Thank you very much, Ray Lean, Are you owed free
parking as a resident? It's kicking off in Toroonga Auckland
around the country. Can you get your views on oh
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
You should be able to park in the streets as texture,
especially if a councilor giving consent for buildings to be
constructed with single to no parks. It's absurd. They think
everyone bukes everywhere around the city on the new cycle
lanes which have cost an absolute fortune and taken parking
from parking from businesses and residents alike, and quite frankly
aren't being used at all. I think we need to

(24:18):
hire a common sense manager for counsel.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Some good points in that text.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Absolutely, Barbara, you live in the inner Auckland's Mountain, and
I believe, yes, that's right.

Speaker 12 (24:30):
We have to if we want to park on the street,
just buy a residence parking ticket, you know, approve we're
a resident online and you can also get a day
you know, a friend parking ticket for park on the
street seventy bucks a year. And I think the reason
is to stop people who might use this street for shopping,

(24:54):
you know, or going out to It's only during the day,
it's not at night, and so that's seventy dollars for
the year. That's not too bad.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
What happens if you don't if you don't have if
you don't have the resident parking permit, you get towed.
Is that does that help? Works?

Speaker 12 (25:11):
Well, I don't know that you get towed, but you
certainly get fined, right See, I go a little Aukland,
you know, little band in the car, an awkward guy
who goes around these kind of streets.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
I think that's a great thing, Barbara. But sorry, you
carry on, you carry on.

Speaker 12 (25:29):
No, I'm just saying, so that's, you know, up from
Mount Eden and towards Auckland, up from the stadium and
towards Auckland.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
That's that's important. But the but where I think this
starts to fall apart with a resident permit is how
how many do you give out and who do you
give them to? And I say that not to have
a go at the residents, but I think developers have
a bit too to answer for here. When they're building
high rise, multi unit developments with no car parks. What
does that mean for people like yourself that have probably

(25:56):
been there for some time and then your street gets
invaded with everybody who needs a free car park from
the council.

Speaker 12 (26:04):
Well, that's something als altogether, I should have Readgine. The
council just gives it to that, it goes to the
I think it goes to the number of the street.
So if there's four or if there's forty, I think
they already get that many car parks.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean, look,
I'm glad it's working out for you, Barbara, but yeah,
as I say, I do worry that some of these
resident party are parking.

Speaker 12 (26:28):
Sorry you go, No, I just think caw On is
just stupid that what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
Yeah, thank you, thank you for your call. Yeah, it's
an interesting one though, but I think essentially what you know,
a previous caller was saying is there's a belief that
people should just get around without cars. So when you
push back and say we've got two cars here, we
want to be able to park here, or we want it.
They don't want it to be convenient for cars. They

(26:55):
have this dream that everyone will cycle around and bust
around and use their public transport and everyone will be
just happy, like those little drawings that you get made up,
you know. Yeah, and you have those drawings, anyone's walking
around happily on bikes and walking around smiles on their faces,
and it's this beautiful futurist city from the Osborne Book
of the Future.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Yeah, but it's.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
Just not really the way things work out. We're not Copenhagen,
but say, for in most so, if you build something,
let's say in tod Onna, if you build an apartment building,
or if you build a you know, a group of
houses or whatever, you call that a development, do you
have to provide the parks? What's the what are the

(27:36):
laws around that?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
That's a good question. I mean, look, I know in
christ Church, and christ Church hasn't typically been an area
where you needed to hustle for a car park. There
was a lot of car parking available. But there is
a lot of pushback for some of these new development
companies that are creating these new homes and new developments
without car parks. And they're doing that for a very
crafty reason. They're doing that so then they can offer

(27:57):
these units at a more of a discount, and they
are relying on the council to provide the car park.
So what they are doing there is they're saying, you,
as a ratepayer, provide that car park for us. We
can offer that unit, it a better deal to anybody
who wants to buy, and we don't have to pay
for that car park. I mean, how was that fear?
How is that fear that the developer gets to do
that and relies on the council car parking to save

(28:18):
to make a bit of extra profit.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, well, I don't know this, Sick says, But boys,
I've heard there is no provision for car parking in
many of Auckland's urban subdivisions. Vehicles have to be parked
on grass berms if they are grass berms or blocks away.
We don't have this problem d needing provision as to
be made on new subdivisions for off street parking chairs.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Charlie, Yeah, good text.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
I mean, I'm amazing the amount of people around my
area that park on berms, like the berms are just
covered in cars. Yeah, in some areas. And I've heard,
and someone could correct me on this, is that that's
not parking enforcement parking on burms. So you know, you
can park on a berm, but you're not part of
the parking enforcement by doing it.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
It's a loophole. I love that.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, well it's a loophole to the point where one
guy near my house can't get off as berm because
he's dug such a whole of hole. We're as back.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
Tyris love it. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call? Are you owed free car parking
as a resident outside your house? Oh, one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number call. It's eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Mad Heathen Tyler Adams
afternoons news Dogs.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
They'd be very good afternoons. Due sixteen passed two. So
you asked the question before, Matt. Are developers required to
provide on site car parking in Auckland's They are not
required to provide on site car parking in new developments.
That was due to the removal of minimum parking requirements
in the Auckland Unitary Planet was voted on in February
twenty twenty two.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
So they're coming at you from two directions, aren't they.
So both they're not allowing, they're not making new developments
put the car parks in there at the same time
as they're charging you to be on the street. They
just take cars. Why do they just admit it? They
just go out and say, we are trying to make
it as hard as possible for you to be in cars,
because we believe in this utopian future of everyone's cycling

(30:08):
around with a smile on their face on a bike
with you know, a French bread stick in the basket
on your car, going to farmers' markets on the end
of every street. Tyler, you're incorrect. This is that that
that excited me by this text, So we'll go on. Please,
If developers can't provide enough car parks that council requires

(30:29):
for a particular project, the developer must pay the council,
whom are then supposed to put the money to alternative
parking areas. Where is that is that?

Speaker 10 (30:38):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Is that across the country? Is that an auckland because
it doesn't seem to say anything in what I'm looking
at here for auckland around that? Or is that toto on?

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, Please let us know where you're texting from, because
it's different rules for different councils.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I think developers get a council fee discount if they
don't build in car parks, So the councilor are actually
paying developers not to provide car parks for ideological reasons.
Check that out, Sean, Well, that would be If that's true,
the plot thickens. If that's true, then we need to
have like fight for you drivers, fight for your right stickers,
bumper stickers, or something.

Speaker 3 (31:09):
Like make cars great again.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Yeah drivers are evil Karen work with the show.

Speaker 13 (31:16):
Yeah, yeah, Well I wanted to ask, was I might
say really stupid here, but what's the point of vaulting
if you've already tied up into a sea forty city internationally?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
What can you say that?

Speaker 13 (31:27):
Because then say you're tied into a sea forty city internationally,
you know you signed all than legal whatever it is
to be a sea forty city.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
What'st Well, look.

Speaker 13 (31:39):
It up everybody. I can't go into it now, but
carbon free, you know, and anyway, you know, it just
makes me wonder what is the point of voting if
you've already decided to sign up to that, like Wellington
hasn't that, you know, because they're going to follow that
agenda anyway, aren't they. Though it doesn't matter what you think.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
Yeah, it does seem like there is an a gender
being followed in any Well.

Speaker 13 (32:00):
It's a legal one because they must have signed a
contract or some legal document to sign up to internationally
with all the other cities like London and everything. So
what's the point of autun if that's their gender.

Speaker 14 (32:10):
The gone down.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
That's all I was going to say, thank you, Yeah, cool, Karen.
But I think I think they have decided that from
a base that cars are bad. Less cars are better.
So anything they do to make it harder to have people,
you know, driving around in cars. Whether that's right or wrong,
who knows, but it feels like they've made that decision
right absolutely, that cars are bad. That's that's a that's

(32:34):
a that's a born sin driving a car. They're evil.
And everything we can to do to make it harder
and make the life difficult of people driving cars is
good for whatever a gender they see down the road.
The Osborne Book of the Future that they that they
grew up looking at.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:49):
But to Karen's point, can you change that? I still
believe that you can. And as you mentioned before, with
counselors and I would I would agree that a counselors
think they have more power than they actually do, and
there's people behind the scenes and stuff that try and
control things behind their back. No doubt that happens. I'm
not going to name names here, maybe I will at
some stage, but as you said before, you can go

(33:10):
through line by line when it comes to big votes
on things like cycle ways or charging people in Mount
Eden to park on on on street parking. You can
go through and see the councilors that vote for those
sort of things, and at the election you can say
I'm sick of this ideology. You're going see your ladder.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Yeah you can, but will you pete you say there's
a hypocrisy at playing.

Speaker 15 (33:35):
Yeah, I reckon, That's what I said it's doing. At
the end, it will still counsel. They sort of probably
starting to linking it all around in the cities in
New Zealand. But I reckon it's wrong the council. What
they should be doing all development of new developments are
like that apartments or whatever they should be in the
contract is that this is a non parking flat or apartment.

(33:58):
So basically, yeah, and if they find out they do
actually own a vehicle and they park it up someone
else's drive or on the someone else's grass vergil on ever,
and they find out and that's why they could make money,
is they charge that it's a breach of contract of
that of of that development of that new project, and

(34:18):
then they then that's they can get five hundred dollars
or thousands of that piers because you actually breach the
contract of your apartment. There's ways of getting money from
the council. They think the guys who have been living
in the area for so long, they want to encourage
people to live in the cities. And they've got a
house that does have a grass edge where they can
park their car or let them be you know, just

(34:41):
another like you guys said, it is pretty much they
want you to push people out of cars, and that's
what the plan is. So you're you're going to realize
there's a new local election this year. All those ones
that are voting for them, there's the writings on the wall,
Get rid of them, get the fire hose, and get
the new counsel.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Yeah you fat, Yeah, I mean I think that's the point.
So it's if you go, this is a logical what's
going on. This is making things so difficult. You've got
to understand that. That's the point.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, Whether your I think that's right or wrong. If
you think cars are evil and then we should make
it as hard as possible to be in cars is
a different issue. That's a decision. You can you know,
you decide whether you sit where you sit on that.
But when you're thinking about why is all this stuff
not making any sense, it's just a disasters. It's making
things so difficult for me in my cart. So you've
got to understand that they are trying to make it
difficult for you in a car percent.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call.
Are you owed free car parking as a resident by
the council? It is ten to two.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Matd Heath Taylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's mad Heath and Tylor
Adams afternoons News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
News Talks THEB it's seven to two.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
A Sea forty City is a member of the Sea
forty Cities Climate Leadership Group, a global network of nearly
one hundred major Oh my god, Oh my goodness, what
have you found? Conspiracy? Oh just as I was reading
out about it, the page completely disappeared.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
They shut down on you. They didn't want you to
know more, They shut down on me. Sea forty Cities
come on, just about honesty?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Oh my goodness. So it's going hardcore on climate and
it's an Auckland as a signature.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
So Karen was right, but the Google just deleted it
from me when I was reading.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
It, or in a simulation that is too much of
a coincidence. Aaron, Yeah, Uric, his multiple agend doesn't play here.

Speaker 10 (36:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 (36:32):
Well out west up Bow West Gate, there have plenty
of land out to the left. They've moved the bus
stops into the middle of the walk off the entire
lane hitting up to the roundabout just before that, with
a turnoff to go down the back road down to
PB taking them to West Gates. They've put islands to

(36:52):
restrict traffic so you can't tucker all three lanes at
the same time on train the road a bit further
down the road heading towards Lincoln Road, they've spent three
months putting.

Speaker 14 (37:03):
In a bus lane.

Speaker 16 (37:06):
That literally goes nowhere other than jump to the bus maybe.

Speaker 10 (37:11):
Ten cars up the road.

Speaker 16 (37:14):
You know, it's I don't I don't see the point
of all.

Speaker 10 (37:17):
These little exercises, where they.

Speaker 16 (37:19):
Again had enough land land they could have gone three wide,
had one going onto the motorway, one going straight ahead
and onto Lincoln Road, and one for the bus to
go straight through. The protect seem to be very near
sighted and it seems to be all about restriction and
for the off street car parks. I can put seven

(37:40):
units on my on my property, I've got and five
off street car parks and that's only because it's got
the services running through the middle of the property and
it's cheaper than bridging and putting another unit on. So again,
why would you have seven units and only five off street?
Everyone fighting for a car bus?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
That's interesting. Yeah, this is interesting. Hey guys, just for
your information, Mechanical parking called car stacks are being installed
through out New Zealand, mainly in Auckland. In the last
teen years we've double tripled car spaces and buildings with
limited parking spaces. Simple design changes and height allows us
to this to happen. Latest project in Takapuna had twenty
six spaces. We increased that to seventy four same space.

(38:23):
I love a car stacker.

Speaker 3 (38:24):
Yeah, vertical parking, that's the solution we need.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Yeah you see that. I saw this documentary on these parking.
Your park your car and it goes shit down into
the ground and then moves it into a slot and
then brings it back up. Yeah, so you go, that's
a real cool, But they don't want to do that
because they don't want you to drive a car into town.
They had cars.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Yeah, so they're not going to do anything cool like Dan, Yeah,
we need that sort of ideas.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
Just put an amazing futuristic car stacking situation in town
so we can all drive to work. Nah, they don't
want that.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
They don't want that.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
They want you riding in on your bike with your
French breadstick in the front basket, with your hair flowing
in the breeze, like the Osborne book or the future.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
That sounds very nicely, doesn't it right? Thank you very
much Steve Ye who phoned and text on that that
was a great discussion coming up after two o'clock. Do
we need to break up with our love of property?
Jeremy Williamson. He is the head of Private Wealth and
Markets at Craig's Investment Partners. He says, yes, we do.
So we're going to catch up with him very shortly
and find out where we should be putting our money

(39:21):
in his Where where is more productive to put our money? Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
The sea forty information has just popped up just too
late for me to read it out to you.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Talking with you all afternoon, It's Matt Heath and Taylor
Adams Afternoons News Dogs.

Speaker 3 (39:37):
That'd be a very very good afternoon to you. It
is seven past two.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
You know, I've never met Michael Hill, Michael Hill jeweler.
I know a number of people have who live in
the area. But it is interesting, isn't it. These people
that are icons. They're there for your whole life. Basically,
you hear about Michael Hill and what he's been doing.
He his ads for the for the for the longest time.
Incredible story. So he was forty I think it was
about nineteen seventy nine, just doing the math when he,

(40:05):
you know, had been working in his uncle's jewelry store
and they just this vision of a new type of
jewelry store that's open and people can walk in and browse,
because jewelry stores before that had were sort of dark
and gloomy and you went through the door and it
rang a bow and you had a bit of look around,
and he was like, wouldn't it better if people just
see it and come in. Obviously there's security risks with that,
but very very interesting man, incredibly successful he was dreamed

(40:29):
of being a constant violinist, did he, Michael Hill. But
he's donated a lot of money to the arts in
his time, a huge, huge support of the arts. You know,
there's of course the Hills, So a lover of golf,
a lover of being on a boat. So but you know,
you have these people that have just they're in your consciousness,
so it's always quite weird when they leave. And he's

(40:50):
an absolute New Zealand icon and incredible success story. Yeah,
put him in this sort of the same mental space
as Bob Jones to a certain extent.

Speaker 3 (40:58):
Definitely, as you said, but you know his story when
at the age of forty his house burnt down, he
lost everything at that point, the drive into nacity and
audacity at that point, as you say, to try and
do something new and different in the world of jewelry
and look at what his career.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
But there's plenty people that forty are going, oh I'm done,
I'm done. You can turn things around you forty. So
I've just I've just pulled up a Michael Hill advertisement
for nineteen from nineteen ninety. So I'm not sure what
it's going to sound like, but I think it's an
appropriate thing to play right now.

Speaker 17 (41:30):
Hello, Michael Hill Jeweler, don't miss my great annual sale.
These diamond eternity rings. Great buying up. Three hundred and
six dollars are now just ninety nine dollars. Silver bracelest
was poor charms. We're sixty five dollars now twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
Be there, Michael Hill Jeweler. Oh may that is nice.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
The voice is so iconic. Yeah it's Michael Hill Jeweler.

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Yeah, I mean we all remember those ads.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
But yeah, so I think there's hundreds of shops. I
think he's got what is about three hundred stores in
the Michael Hill chain across New Zealand, Australia, in Canada,
so yeah what a yeah that said. And of course
married to Christine for sixty years.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, so rip Michael Hill Jewelers an incredible New Zealand.
So absolutely rip Michael Hill.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
It's just so used to hearing Michael Hill Jeweler.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Rolls off the dung visitor absolutely rest in peace of
very sad news today. Right, let's have a chat about
our love of fair Worth property. So one investment expert,
Jeremy Williamson, We're going to have a chat to him
very shortly. He is the head of Private Wealth and
Markets at Craig Investment Partners. He says there was momentum
building for a move away from our love affair with
property and property investment. He says, I quote, we think

(42:36):
that's great for a number of reasons. New Zealand is
always going to have an affinity with property investment, but
there are so many benefits for us as a country
if we can turn the dial away from it.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
Yeah, So have you successfully invested outside of property?

Speaker 14 (42:51):
Well?

Speaker 2 (42:51):
Have you successfully invested instead of property? And look, I
think I mean personally, I love owning a house and
I would even lose money to own own a house.
I love being able to do stuff to my house.
It feels great, great to sort of own I think,
you know, even though the government still punishes you, the
council charges you rates, there's so many things you can't

(43:13):
do in your house, et cetera, it does feel great
to own a slice of this great country. And look,
I'm willing to pay for that. So it's not just
an investment, you know, it's not just it's not just
a wealth generated your first house. But you know, property
investment outside your first house. Are there better ways to
make money? Because he says the key we saver over

(43:33):
the last wee Wiles, is you know a fast, a
fast earning key we saver account has earned more than
property over the last ten years?

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Yeah? Oh, e one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call? Is there a better investment than property?
In twenty twenty five? Love to have a chat with
you on this Coming up, we are going to catch
up with Jeremy Williamson, the head of Private Wealth and
Markets at Craig's Investment Partners and put some questions to them.
It is eleven past two.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Your home of afternoon talk mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call eight hundred eighty ten eighty us talk said.

Speaker 11 (44:07):
Be.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Fourteen past two. So do we need to break our
love fear with property? Jeremy Williamson here to Private Wealth
and Markets at Craig's Investment Partners. Reacons we should be
investing in assets that actually grow the economy, and he
joins us now afternoon, Jeremy, Hey, guys, hey, Jeremy, why.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Do key we still love property so much even when
the returns aren't what.

Speaker 9 (44:30):
They used to be.

Speaker 18 (44:32):
I keep asking myself the same.

Speaker 14 (44:36):
Look. I think there's a couple of parts to it.

Speaker 9 (44:37):
Guys.

Speaker 18 (44:38):
I think Kiwi's they love what they can see and
tangible assets. And we look, we all know that we
can touch an investment property it stands, it's relatively transparent
in terms of how it's valued. And I think the
other thing is access to borrowing. So it's very hard

(45:00):
for a lot of key we used to get access
to borrowing and mortgaging the houses is a way to
do it. And maybe if we go back a few decades,
back to the back into the eighties, there for a
lot of for a lot of older Kiwis, there was
a difficult period in the ship market around the eighty
seven crash. So yeah, I think it's a whole lot

(45:21):
of that stuff that has affected the national psyche. And yeah,
I think it's time to have a conversation around around
well what can we do for the betterment of Kiwis
and the next generation. And I think our disposition towards
property investment's got a part to play.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Are you talking about second properties and investment properties, Because
of course your first house has more than a financial investment,
and it's an emotional investment. It's a piece of the country.
It's it's you know, something solid. It's the ability to,
I don't know, knock out a wall with a sledgehammer,
if you, if you, if you want to. So are

(45:59):
you talking about moving that investment away from you know,
from when as a financial investment? Or do you think
people should give up on the family home in the
first place.

Speaker 18 (46:09):
No, I'm in the ladder camp. And you know, for
a lot of kiwis the family home sacrisanct. And you
know we all feel like that, don't we. It's more
the second and third and fourth homes, the investment properties,
all that stuff. I think it's time to have a
conversation nationally around now what is that actually doing?

Speaker 14 (46:31):
And I think of you know, when your.

Speaker 18 (46:32):
Kids playing past the parcel and trading and buying and
selling investment properties to each other. Feels a bit like
that to me, where you know, you take a twenty
dollar notes, you pass it around the circle, It still
comes back as a twenty dollar note, doesn't it. I
feel like the love affair we have with investment property
has the same sort of thing to it.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
A lot of people will be hearing that, Jeremy and
thinking it's quite altruistic a statement from yourself that we
do what's good for the country rather than ourselves. And
I think what you say is a lot of logic
to it, But you get what I'm saying. A lot
of people are their prime refocus is what is going
to build wealth for them and their family and hopefully
something to hand down to their kids and for them,

(47:14):
property still feels like the way to go.

Speaker 18 (47:17):
Yeah, and I can understand that. I mean, that's that's
an equally valid view as well. I guess I'll take
it up a few levels and you think of it
from a national point of view, if we were to
if we were to have a national conversation and move
just the deal slightly. I mean, I'm not sitting here
saying let's all get out of property. It's not where
I'm coming from. Where I'm coming from. If we move

(47:39):
the deal slightly and put a bit more of that
investment property capital into productive assets, grow the economy, grow productivity,
create more jobs for the next generation of kids coming along,
and take a bit of heat out of property prices generally,
because I think inequality is a bit of a conversation

(48:01):
we're having nationally at the moment and over allocating to
property as a country, I think it has a part
to play in equality as well.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
So how much are we talking? How much of a
dial shift do you think would make a material difference
to to our economy.

Speaker 18 (48:18):
Oh look, I want to crunch the numbers in my
own head, but if I was a stab.

Speaker 14 (48:22):
At, put me on this spot roughly roughly roughly. Look,
I won't put my life on it, but what I'll
say is.

Speaker 18 (48:31):
I'm talking a couple of percentage points, you know, to
maybe two, three, four, five percent would make a huge difference.
You know, we think about how investment and housing generally,
and investment properties and New Zealand residentially. I think the
number is something like one point six one point seven trillion,
So it's a big number, and if you break it
down into a little bite sized pieces, a few percentage

(48:53):
points could make a big difference in terms of that
capital going into these productive assets. So yeah, I'm certainly
not sitting here saying let's let's run for the hills
from property. I just think that's that the conversation is
starting to shift around how we turn the dial just
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (49:08):
Kind of touched this on this before, but as this
text to Ben says, you can't borrow five hundred k
and buy shares and make four to six on that
five hundred k. If you went into a bank and see,
ed luck, I've got this portfolio I want to buy.
Can you can you give me a mortgage? They're probably
going to say get out, aren't they?

Speaker 14 (49:26):
Yeah? They are.

Speaker 18 (49:27):
But I think it goes back to the earlier point,
doesn't it. I mean the family house being sacrassanct to
New Zealanders and maintaining that culture and getting access towards
towards some borrowings that way to whether they have that
personal decision to put some of that borrowing into other
asset classes. But you know, my conversation, what I'm thinking

(49:48):
about is more around that second second third and those
sort of investment properties. But yeah, there's no doubt that
the family home sacrasanct creates memories. It's the place for
the family to be and also can help with some
access to leverage.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
We're talking to Jeremy Williamson, head of Private Wealth and
Markets at Craig's Investment Partners. Now, you mentioned the eighty
seven crash, and we all know that the country went
crazy for stocks after the Longe government came in eighty four,
there was this huge burn and then a lot of
people got burned, and it felt like there was a
cultural fear that spread through the nation against the shear market,

(50:23):
and that was pointed out as a moment when people
moved heavily into property because they thought it was less riskier.
How fair is that view now, that property is less
risky than a second property is less risky than the
shear market for example.

Speaker 18 (50:39):
Yeah, well, I guess for how I look at that
is sort of look at it the other way. And
back in the eighties, the share market was dominated by
investment companies. The companies set up to invest in small
pieces of other companies that would invest in small pieces
of other companies. So it was it felt like a
little bit of a house of cards.

Speaker 14 (51:00):
I contrast it today. You look at the listed market
here in New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (51:05):
It's full of productive companies that actually do things. They export,
they create, create create jobs, they pay their taxes and
they're doing great for New Zealand. I think of the
companies like Fisher and Pike Girl Healthcare. So I think
it's changed. I think it's changed dramatically, But you know,
I appreciate there'll be some around that go. You know,

(51:26):
I had that bad, bad experience in the eighties and
and bricks and mortar feels safer to me.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
So So if that's the case, do you reckon that
the tax system needs a sort of a shake up
to get people looking beyond property if people are still
nervous and as you say, it's good for the company
if we start investing in and things that employee people
and and you know in New Zealand companies, do you
think that that a change to the tax system could

(51:53):
could jumpstart that that that move.

Speaker 18 (51:57):
Yeah, I could do. I mean, I think it's worth
thinking about, isn't it. And generally what you what you
find with the taxation system and life generally is that
you know, incentives to get into into things that are
good for good for the economy tend to work.

Speaker 10 (52:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (52:13):
I'm known tax tax expert and not a favor with
all the tax settings, of course, but I think it's
a good time to think about all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
And we hear that young people are locked out of
the property market, So are they just naturally moving away
from property? Will this just just change over time as
it becomes impossible for young people to get into property,
so they're like, now I'll have it all at bitcoin.

Speaker 18 (52:38):
Yeah, it's a question I'll get asked all the time
when you look at offshore. I mean we've been a
property ownership for our primary domicile. Owning that prominent primary
domicile has been an important part of keepa culture offshore,
you know, in the European some of the European countries,
you know, renting is something that is far more normal

(52:59):
with a higher prevalence rate, so you know, maybe it
goes that way.

Speaker 14 (53:03):
You know what, what we see a bit of now
our business.

Speaker 18 (53:06):
At Craigs there's a lot of young people getting in
into the share market and that's exciting and good luck
to them.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Jeremy, it's been great chatting with you. It's an interesting
discussion and we're looking forward to see what our talkback
callers have got to say. But thank you very much
for your time, pleasure, thanks for having me. That is
Jeremy Williamson, the head of Private Wealth and Markets at
Craig's Investment Partners. So what do you say, Oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Is
there a better investment than property in twenty twenty five,
love to hear your thoughts. It is twenty three past two,

(53:37):
News Talks edb. It is twenty five a past two,
and we are talking about our love affair of property.
So Jeremy Williamson, who we caught up with before, he's
the head of Private Wealth and Markets at Craig's Investment Partners.
He said that there was momentum building for a move
away from just purely investing in property and investing in
things that are better for the country. What do you say, Oh,

(53:58):
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is a number to call this.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Texas is never stocks. I've read that approximately one hundred
of the one hundred and fifty of the top five
hundred businesses from the nineteen ninety foot five hundred are
still listed on the American Stock Exchange. So so around
two thirds of the businesses you could have invested in
are no longer even there. Where you know, buy low,
sell high, get out before they explode. That's okay, I mean,
nineteen ninety is a long long time ago. We're talking

(54:24):
thirty five years there. Yeah, absolutely, Tony, welcome to the show.
Your thoughts on property investment versus the other options out there.

Speaker 19 (54:32):
Well, I can't quite follow your reasoning. Let's put it
to you this way. Let's say, right at this moment,
everybody in New Zealand didn't buy a house. Okay, they
put their money into Mount Productive by a company where
they give create jobs. But in the meantime, where are

(54:55):
those people going to live. To live somewhere, They're going
to have to live in a home, and that home
has to be owned by either an individual kiwi or
a company which is composed comprised of a number of kiwis.
So people are never going to have a The only
way you're going to get out of that situation is
for the government to supply a statehouse for everybody. So

(55:18):
insiding you buy a house, you put your money into
some form of investment.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Yeah, but I think Tony he was I mean, Jeremy
was talking about moving the dial a small percentage just
away from property, not saying that people don't buy their
first house. In fact, he was mainly talking about second houses,
third houses. So when you have some extra money to invest,
so he's not talking about just everyone jumping out of
the house right now. Is saying, if you're about to

(55:43):
invest in a second property as an investment. Maybe you
instead invest in a business or invest in the stock market, or.

Speaker 19 (55:51):
The average kiwi I mean, I've been in New Zealand
fifty years. My wife and I when she was alive,
we can never afford two houses. We could just afford
to buy our own house. And that is the average kiwie. Okay,
what you're looking at is that small section of New Zealand.
We're wealthy, we have money and can become landlordsand own

(56:13):
a number of properties. And you're there not going to
get away from that.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
Yeah, that's what that's what we're talking about. We're talking
about the people that have got some money to invest,
where should they invest it as property? Because right now,
right now.

Speaker 19 (56:25):
People invest If they don't invest it in houses. If
you're what you're talking about to the government want was
to try and make it more attractive for them to
invest in other areas, then these supply houses is going.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
To dry up in terms of rental properties. You mean,
well yeah, and and new built being built.

Speaker 19 (56:49):
Yeah, I mean it's the supply and demand. If there's
no if there's no demand for a house and builders
are not going to build them.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, But so but would you would would would you
be happy with us just to move or a percentage
move away. So they'd say, let's just pull up, pull up,
figure out if we move five percent away, money that
was being invested into property was moved into productive assets.

Speaker 19 (57:15):
There have been five percent houses less houses, basically, you know,
you kind of it both ways.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
So so but hang on a minute, so you you
think that, I mean, it's not as zero su game, though,
is it, Because you know, the markets move all over
the shop now, so there is currently some investment outside
of property, and and and we we have you know this,
the people investing this year market now obviously, and we
still have people building houses.

Speaker 19 (57:45):
I think you're going to have to find a risk
of people move away from buying a house. Whoever they
are you move away, doesn't have what percentage. There's going
to be less houses being built, which you tend to
be the remaining houses because there's less of them will
go up in price to make them even more unaffordable.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Thank you very much, Tony. I think you know, to
Jeremy's pointing, you said it very well, Matt. But it's
about the there's a lot of young people out there
who filled their priced out of the current property market.
So does that mean they start moving their funds and
their money and there whatever they've got set aside into
things like the sheer market? And as that good for
us as an economy, I mean, Jeremy Wilkinson from Craig's

(58:24):
Investment Partners says absolutely, it's a more productive way to
use your investment rather than just buying more property. But
is he right?

Speaker 9 (58:31):
Hi?

Speaker 2 (58:31):
Guys, only your own house is great. But people who
have inflated our house prices by investing in multiple, multiple
homes say they have benefited society. No, without capital games,
they've created a nice nest eggs for themselves and made
rent's house prices ridiculous and spoiled the fabric of society.
Invest in other things, please, But the problem is with
that is I don't know. I think there's absolutely nothing

(58:54):
wrong with doing well and then having more and then
investing it in something to do better. I mean, that's
the isn't that the goal?

Speaker 3 (59:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (59:02):
And not all of us will get there, but some
of us well, And that doesn't make them bad people
because they have done that. We can't all be on
the same level. Exact, would be a very strange society. Yeah, Yeah,
there has to be some reward for doing really, really
well and if that's investing. So the thing is, we
accept that people can earn more than the amount that

(59:23):
they spend in their one house, their family home, and
they might want to invest it somewhere else where. Do
we want them to invest that?

Speaker 3 (59:29):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.
Call love to hear your thoughts. It is twenty nine
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Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Thank you very much, Raylan. Do we need to break
up with our love of property? Jeremy Williamson, he's the
head of Private Wealth of Markets at Craig's Investment Partners,
said absolutely, we do. When to be pumping our money
into productive assets. Do you agree, Matt?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
What key we saver account?

Speaker 13 (01:01:13):
Was that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Because mine has pretty much stagnated and even gone backwards. Yes,
so that was Gareth Kernan of Infometrics. He noted that
property returns over the last decade have averaged about nine
point five percent, comparable to aggressive Keiwi saver funds. So
you know, not all Kei sab funds, but aggressive Kei
we saver funds. You're on aggressive or passive or.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
I'm on a growth. I'd love to be an aggressive.
I don't think the guys I'm worth offer aggressive. But
like old muzz there, mine hasn't done too well. And
I've got to say the guys I with put a
lot of money into crypto and then it crashed, and
it did go so well for me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Well, speaking of crypto, hey, guys, I put two k
into a startup crypto at the start of the year.
It's now worth thirty seven thousand dollars. Last week of
seeing people who took a risk making all the money,
so I thought I'd give it a try. Cheers Nick.
But of course then you've got people like you, Tyler,
who lost a whole lot of money in crypto, didn't you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
Yep, you get a few winners and a lot of
losers like me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
To be honest, well, yeah, I mean that that's what
you know. This textas is investing in shares is gambling
not security. Well, I mean you could argue that that,
but then again property as well. Yeah, like there's plenty
of people that have bought, you know, had their family
home and then and then use the equity to get
a rental property and then that's been a disaster for

(01:02:28):
them as well. I mean, it's all gambling to a
stain extent, isn't it. There's no guarantees.

Speaker 3 (01:02:31):
One hundred percent. Eight hundred and eighteen eighty is the
number two Call Tim, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
Yeah, good a guys. So yeah, great, great, great topic,
great topic, and I was just going to throw my
two cents with And that's the art of leverage, which
I think it's been picked up before. But you know,
you take your deposit, go to the bank for the rest.

(01:02:57):
And every time you hear of someone talking investments on
the radio, they're talking about property versus shares. You've got
to remember you're borrowing a few bit of the bank
money and you can make a return on the bank's money.
And so when you do that and you hold the
asset for quite some time and then you pay back
to the bank, you've actually made an astronomical return on

(01:03:20):
your initial investment. Okay. And so this's the art of
leverage of property, and not only that, it's one of
the only investments that actually keeps up with inflation. It's
often you know, you're going to put full five percent,
going to get four five percent return of the bank,
and you end up with some shock in inflation like
we've had in the last sort of five years. Then

(01:03:43):
your money doesn't keep up. So property does. It does
keep up on inflation and some and so it's just
one of those things which people are sort of missing
the boat. However, I will say, there are some very
bad property investments out there and then there's a good one.
So you know, you've got to shop around and talk

(01:04:03):
talk to others. And you know, I'm a big believer
of you know, hooking up into clubs and property investor
associations and those sort of things, because then you could
talk to like minded people who can help steer in
the right direction.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
What about a situation though, where say you've got the
family home that's sort of goods and a good stead
and then use that equity to invest in a business
as opposed to property.

Speaker 5 (01:04:31):
Yeah, you can do that, and that's great, but I
would say, you know, you want them separated from an
association in a sense, so if your business goes tits up,
it doesn't you know, wipe you out in the family home.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
But it's all leverage on the so a business, a
business is more likely to go tip's up, as you
say to them, than your house.

Speaker 5 (01:04:57):
Yes, because you know it's all about cash flow and
care shrow cares flow, and I think if the something
is wrong with your business, you know you're often buying
something and then reselling it and things like that. You've
got stock and you've got a lot more worrying concerns
with property, you can just hold it and hold it

(01:05:18):
and hold it right out the rough times, like right
now it's the rough, ride it out and you wait
till things a bit better then you can you always
sell it. Probably it is pretty liquid.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Yeah, I mean, I mean that's true your business. It's
difficult to ride them out when you've got staff costs
and rent and all the expenses of a business. If
a business is doing badly, then then it falls off
the cliff pretty quickly, doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
Ye one hundred percent, But I mean now some bad
and property investments too, So you're just got to get
good advice so that you know you're buying something and
focusing on a bit of Keshler.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Yeah, but just on the business argument, does that not
make it logical to try and pull some levers at
the government level or policy level, to allow people to
make a punt and try their hand at investing in business,
to make it not there's no guarantees here, but to
make it a bit more secure, to try and shift
that balance, because, no doubt about it, when people create

(01:06:10):
businesses in this country, it creates jobs, it generates wealth,
It is more productive than a property.

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Well, i'd argue the fact that in order to get
a job you got to Maslow's triangle of needs. You've
got to go a little bit step further. You've got
to have a roof over your head first, and that
if the government doesn't want to invest into housing, you
know you want a roof over your head so your
kids can get a good education. And it all starts

(01:06:39):
a little bit further down the chain, and so you
need those people, You need proper investors out there to
buy those houses, because not everyone's going to want to
buy a house. A lot of people rent, a lot
of people want to rent. And if you take the
incentives away to invest into property or create an uneven
balance field, is what you're trying to talk about with

(01:07:00):
a tech system, you'll just end up with a supply
and demand disaster. And that's sort of what we experienced
under last government when rents met up on hundred and
eighty bucks a week and that's just untelligible.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Yeah, interesting thoughts. Thank you very much for giving us
a buzz. Tem Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call love to hear your thoughts.
Is there a better investment in twenty twenty five than property?
It is nineteen to three back very shortly.

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It is a quarter to three. Is there a better
investment than property in twenty twenty five?

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Ben says, tits up. I'm offended, more chauvinist at rhetoric
leveled at woman. It's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 3 (01:08:30):
Grow up, excuse me. I have some pretty good you
know what, You've got breasts too?

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
Yeah, exactly, I've got nipples.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
You're looking pretty trim these days. You used to to
be honest, but you're looking pretty trim these days.

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
What's the line, I've got nipples? Can you milk me? Actually?
Ben says, just getting love to show?

Speaker 9 (01:08:48):
How do you?

Speaker 21 (01:08:48):
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Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
Thank you?

Speaker 18 (01:08:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:08:49):
I love you too, mate, love you too. Kind of
the text, Yeah, right back to this conversation. It is
a great conversation. Is there a better investment than property.
In twenty twenty five, love to hear your thoughts. O
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number two call.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Robin says, please stop referring to property as an unproductive investment.
The property industry alone, covering residential and commercial development, real
estate services, and property investment, contributes approximately fifty point two billion,
which equates to about fifteen percent of New Zealand CDP
when you factor in associated sectors construction, finance, insurance and
various supplies, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
That is a fair point.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Yeah, okay, so maybe it's not the right to say
it's unproductive. But so let's say instead of investing in
an investment property, perhaps you invest in shares, Perhaps you
invest in a business. The argument is that we could
grow other sectors of our economy and make, you know,

(01:09:43):
employee more people in different areas if people invested outside
of property a little bit more.

Speaker 3 (01:09:48):
Exactly what do you say, though, Oh, E one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call?

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Colin?

Speaker 8 (01:09:55):
Yeah, hey, discussing your last fella about and you guys
starting a business. If you start a business and you
have to rent premises, do you know how you go
about that. No, you're going to put something up as
a gain guarantee that you pay the rent. So the
average person puts up their house, that business goes tits up.

Speaker 9 (01:10:14):
They're homeless and a.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Story, right and so pretty and not pretty.

Speaker 9 (01:10:22):
And so every person doesn't do very well.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
So as opposed to if you have a little bit
of extra money sea committee in your house and you
buy a rental property, you're saying there's less risk than that.

Speaker 8 (01:10:36):
No, actually made good money out of houses accidentally. But
if you put the average house deposit fifty thousand bucks
into a Standard and Poors five hundred, which is a
American group of shares which are picked, they are not
the best five hundred. They are what the people who
picked them think is the best five hundred. If you

(01:10:59):
put fifty thousand in there for the last fifty years
you're fifty and put nothing more and just didn't take
any out, you'd have forty million bucks.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Yeah. Yeah, Look, and that is a fair point. When
people look at the rate of return on the sheer
market over a long enough length of time versus the
property market, the calculations are pretty clear, right Colin. But
there is yes, you know. I'm thinking about people say
they've retired and they've got a bit of money set aside,
and they're looking whether where to invest there to make
sure they've got enough to see out their days and comfort.

(01:11:31):
A lot of people, quite rightly, may be fearful that
their window is not long enough, and there's ups and
downs in the market, and there may come a down
that will take a big chunk of that change just
when they need it.

Speaker 8 (01:11:44):
Yeah, well, I don't put fifty thousand in, don't put
in the house deposit and wait forty years put in
ten percent of a house deposit. I honestly don't believe
in owning houses, but I've made some good money out
of extent by owning a couple.

Speaker 2 (01:11:59):
Look a few Colin, and thank you for your call.
You have a great day.

Speaker 3 (01:12:02):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call? Is property the best investment? In twenty twenty five.
I've loved to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
And we've We've got a call from Doug that will
go to next History proofs overtime shares will grow better
than property. So he's a shears guy. We'll talk to
him next.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
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News Talk z B, Good afternoon to you. Is there
a better investment than property? In twenty twenty five oh
one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the numbered call?

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Have made a lot of money. You're renovating and investing
in houses, but now diversitying into shares, et cetera. Too
hard to move the properties in recent years and returns
aren't great. I mean it might just happen that people start,
over time moving out of property as it becomes less
of a guarantee. I mean, property for the long time
has been you know, ups and downs. They talk about

(01:12:55):
the seven year cycle, but over time, property has been
close the closest thing to a guarantee. I's been pretty
good that you're going to do that, You're going to
do Okay, if that changes, then maybe the money will
naturally move into other areas. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:08):
And I know a lot of people that haven't managed
to get into the housing market yet are on the
ladder and they are moving into shares. And they started
that with the likes of Cheesy's and those other platforms
made it really easy for them to, you know, take
a gamble on some of the shares and stocks they like,
lose a bit of money, figure it out, and then
get into index funds. And I think you're right. I
think naturally it's just gonna shift. If you can't get

(01:13:28):
into property, you'll find other ways to generate wealth in
the sheer market for a lot of people is where
it's at.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
How many you know, punishing day traders like me that
do it for fun. Sure, over time we will definitely
lose money compared to someone that just puts their money
slowly into indexed funds.

Speaker 5 (01:13:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:43):
Yeah, Oh man, I'm such a mug that I lost
so much on Tesla. And I love Tesla, but I
just get in at the wrong time, sell at the
wrong time. I'm a useless day trader.

Speaker 21 (01:13:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Yeah, if you get if you get in, I mean
some of the companies that you get into that make
the most money are reasonably evil. Yeah companies. But you know,
an ETF is where it's at, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:03):
Yeah, that's the easy one oh one hundred and eighty
ten eightyc number to call. Dug history proves you believe
that she is a better option over time.

Speaker 10 (01:14:13):
Well, I'm not saying I'm proving. But Mary Holm, who's
independent and writes in the Herald every weekend, guy's been
writing for a long time. She has some fantastic analysis
on basically saying, look, it's a mug's game trying to pictures.
You're better off to go into a low fee index fund.
It's not a key we savor if he's just a

(01:14:34):
shadow fun because what you can control is the fees
you pay. And let the market an index. If Frish
and Piker is high, then it will have a larger waiting.
Or if Tesla is high, Tyler that will have a
higher waiting, or if Gold is higher. Let them the experts,
because we all think we're experts, but we're not really

(01:14:55):
experts because we're in our jobs. Right, John t was
good enough to do it. In terms of the property,
we all love property because we can touch it, we
can go and see our tenants, we can renovate it,
and yes, we get leverage other parts of the world.
We can also get leverage if we really wanted. What

(01:15:15):
I would be saying along with the guy from Craig's
Investment Partners and Sam Stubs from simplicity. We have a
lot of money that could be used better. What would
it look like if fifty percent of our key we
Saver funds were invested in New Zealand sixty billion dollars?
We wouldn't have an infrastructure shortage, guys. We'd have great roads,

(01:15:38):
We'd have three harbor crossings. But instead we're go and
invest in companies like mcquarie Bank or Mcquarie Infrastructure in
the ASX, who build all these roads in Britain, Sydney
and Melbourne and water.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
I love the idea, Doug, but is there a guarantee
that investing my key we Savor into New Zealand projects
is going to make me as much money as investing
in the s and P five hundred.

Speaker 10 (01:16:05):
Hey, Tyler, risk and re would go hand in hand.
You took a risk on Tesla, and my friend, it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
I don't know what I'm questioning you, Doug. You're clearly
better at this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Than I am.

Speaker 10 (01:16:16):
I don't know why we have this debate. You know,
do we want to invest in New Zealand well?

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
And also, and also argue arguably, if you haven't take
a holistic approach, if we're the key saver is investing
in infrastructure in New Zealand, then the poll of New
Zealand grows and our taxes could potentially come down, you know,
rather than us just get.

Speaker 10 (01:16:35):
It completely guys, Like, if we think about it and
we think about all the forestry residues and the slash,
what could we do with that if that was being
used for energy in New Zealand, we could have the
equivalent of the Scandinavian economy. That's simple.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
Yeah, well I think if you cool, Doug.

Speaker 3 (01:16:55):
Yeah, I mean you make some very valid points, Doug,
and a lot of people would agree with you. Just
quit a couple of texts before we hit the news. Hey, guys,
perhaps we do need to direct a lot of investors
away from property. But to do what the last the
government did was worse than criminal. To tax retrospectively by
taking away text deductions on interest on loans that already

(01:17:15):
exist when interest got over to seven percent was a disgrace.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
From Rod Maris is not everyone will make money with
shares over say a ten or fifteen year period. You
need luck and nouse and good decisions. But with property,
anyone over the time will make money. Yeah, not everyone,
but also the thing is, yeah that you know, you
might not need to have the nouse, but if you
if you invest in an ETS, then then then you're

(01:17:40):
investing the people that do have the nouse.

Speaker 3 (01:17:41):
Yeah, very true, great discussion. Thank you very much to
everyone who called in text on that one. Coming up
after three o'clock. What is the best way to get
into shape fast? Looking forward to your thoughts on that one.
O eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to
call if you want to send a text. Nine to
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Speaker 1 (01:18:02):
Your new homes are insateful and entertaining. Talk It's Mattie
and Taylor afternoons on news Talk Sevvy.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
Very good afternoons. You welcome back into the show. It
is seven past three and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
You've probably heard that jewelry pioneereer Sir Michael Hill has died.
The eighty six year old founded and grew Michael Hill
Jewelers from humble beginnings and fund aid to become a
global retail jewelry brand spanning brand spanning Australia and New
Zealand and Canada. He stepped back from the business in
April to undergo cancer treatment. So yeah, passed away at

(01:18:37):
eighty six. And as I was saying before, he's one
of those people that has just been omnipresent in New
Zealand life for a very long time. And his story
is very, very famous from being at forty years old
and coming up with a completely different way of doing
jewelry that hadn't been done anywhere in the world and
just exploded and an example of how you can change
things at the age of forty.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Absolutely inspirational.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Yeah, absolutely, and of course a huge supporter of the arts.
And you know, here we go, this is what you
think of.

Speaker 17 (01:19:08):
Hello, Michael Hill Jeweler, don't miss my great annual sale.
These diamond eternity rings, great buying at three hundred and
six dollars are now just ninety nine dollars. Silver bracelets
with poor charms, we're sixty five dollars now twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (01:19:20):
Be there, Michael Hill Jeweler. It's so iconic. It's a
really good deal. By the way, I'm going to.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Say, yeah, well that's from nineteen ninety so I'm sure
if it don't go into Michael Hill Drawler and ask
for that deal. It's thirty five years old. But my
good friend Bill is on the line here and he's
he's had some dealings with Michael Hill back in the day.
Welcome the show, Bill.

Speaker 14 (01:19:43):
Curtin, Did I, Matt, could I Tyler?

Speaker 10 (01:19:47):
How you going?

Speaker 14 (01:19:47):
That's SATA news.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah, yeah, it's sort of one of those things that's
just been in the background of New Zealand for the
longest time. Just Michael Hill jeweler. Yeah, iconic.

Speaker 22 (01:19:56):
You have to yeah, you have to remember that back
in the eighties when he started his business, New Zealand
had finally, you know, sort of anyone older than fifty
will know that New Zealand is finally emerged from a
centrally planned, you know, Soviet style economy under Rob Muldoon,

(01:20:18):
and so businessmen like him, business businessmen and women like him,
they sort of all came popping out of the bottle
like corks, you know, they were suddenly able to do
things like that, and he was one of them, and
you know, made quite a fortunate as a result. But
I had just started my career in broadcasting in nineteen

(01:20:39):
eighty four at the age of seventeen, up and Fangada
at a radio station called KWLE CFM, and because Michael
had his primary residence up there, he would come into
our new studios and quite often record commercials there because
you know, that made sense. He was sort of not

(01:21:01):
too far away and.

Speaker 19 (01:21:02):
He could he could do them there, and we would duplicate.

Speaker 22 (01:21:05):
Them and send them off to other radio stations around
the country. So he was very nice, and I met
him a few times when he came in. But I
have to admit something.

Speaker 10 (01:21:16):
That you know, that I did.

Speaker 22 (01:21:20):
He without without necessarily running it past anyone.

Speaker 14 (01:21:26):
I was, you know, because I was I was a
junior copyright. I felt that his Yeah, I.

Speaker 22 (01:21:32):
Felt that his voice was just a little bit squeaky,
and and so what I did was is I got
the pitch shift on the two track recorder, the analog
two track recorder, and I turned it up slightly so
that when you played it back a.

Speaker 14 (01:21:48):
Real speed, it sounded a bit slower and.

Speaker 22 (01:21:52):
Therefore a bit deeper. And that went on for a
little while until until it didn't.

Speaker 14 (01:22:02):
I don't know whether he knew about that.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
But.

Speaker 10 (01:22:05):
Yeah, what was it?

Speaker 11 (01:22:06):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
So this is where it ended up. His voice here
be there, Michael Hills Jeweler.

Speaker 22 (01:22:13):
Yeah, you can hear it, you can hear it, but
our commercials were not quite and there.

Speaker 14 (01:22:19):
You know, they were just sort of shipped down slowly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:22):
It's so iconic and for him to be a businessman,
and it's sort of a confidence thing, as you say,
like as the as the nation sort of became more
confident into the eighties and business people came through. But
to be the face of Michael Hill Jewelers. Was was
that odd at the time because.

Speaker 14 (01:22:41):
It just well, yeah, man.

Speaker 22 (01:22:42):
That was the other thing is that in those days
you would you were positively discouraged not to read your
own ads. That was quite you know, that was quite
quite radical.

Speaker 19 (01:22:55):
To do that.

Speaker 14 (01:22:55):
You just you didn't you didn't do it, but he did.

Speaker 22 (01:22:58):
And then and then you know, time went on and
today have Adrian and John from Magnu Spenner and everyone
does their own ads.

Speaker 14 (01:23:05):
But it was it was a bit of a departure
in those days.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
It's yeah, what was he like when he came into
the studio Buill? Did he have that confidence? Clearly he
backed himself as a bit of a hustler as well.
Was that the vibe you got that this was a
guy who backs himself wholeheartedly? He's going to sell the
crap out out of his jewelry business, and that's arguably
what got him ahead.

Speaker 14 (01:23:25):
Oh no, I never noticed that. He was just very
he was just very friendly, very kind and knew what
he wanted.

Speaker 22 (01:23:31):
And you know, he was pretty much in and out
like a robber's dog and very busy, busy guy.

Speaker 10 (01:23:36):
But no, he was nice.

Speaker 7 (01:23:37):
I liked him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Well, it's an incredible story to you know, be forty
years old, as I was saying, before change the way
jewelry shops are run up there in fang it Ay
then just explode to yachts and golf courses and giving
that much to the arts. I mean it was an
unlikely arc.

Speaker 14 (01:23:55):
You've got to say, absolutely, you know.

Speaker 22 (01:23:58):
But like I said, here's one of many people who
found the new environment in the mid eighties, that whole
revolution where New Zealand completely changed within space.

Speaker 14 (01:24:10):
I mean I remember funk it at that time.

Speaker 22 (01:24:11):
I mean I only school, but just there was just
development happening everywhere, you know, like there was, and it
was repeated all around New Zealand where suddenly people could
you know, borrow but the regulations were removed.

Speaker 14 (01:24:28):
I mean, yeah, New Zealand was.

Speaker 22 (01:24:30):
A very very different place before the Roger Douglas David
Longi government, that's for sure.

Speaker 14 (01:24:36):
And so these guys, these guys just they had the
keys to the kingdom and off they went. It was
all not just not to the same extent.

Speaker 22 (01:24:44):
But in Soviet Russia when they got rid of communism,
no one really knew what to do, and.

Speaker 14 (01:24:52):
Maybe not quite as extreme.

Speaker 22 (01:24:53):
But in New Zealand, the people that did ever bit
of get up and go, they just went for it
and did all sorts of cool things.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Yeah, it was all porschas being abandoned on the Harbor
Bridge and then huge stock market crash and any seven
and then since then we'll pull our head back in
and just invested in property. Going back to the previous hour, Hey,
thank you, thank you so much.

Speaker 9 (01:25:15):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Good to chat to you.

Speaker 14 (01:25:17):
Good to get chat mate.

Speaker 3 (01:25:18):
See yeah, go well mate, what a great story. Right
coming up, after we play some messages, we want to
have a chat about the best way to get into
shape fast. I'll tell you a little bit more about
that very shortly. But O one hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It is fourteen past three.
Stalk Zebby seventeen past three. So what is the best

(01:25:39):
way to get into shape fast? No doubt about it.
And I'm happy to admit I've let myself go a
little bit over the last eight months.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
No need to admit it, Tyler. I can see from here.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Yeah, thank god it's radio. I mean the camera is
always rappling. I have been consuming a lot of pies.
We get a lot of freebes here, which is nice
working with you, mate. You know, you feed me some
pies the other day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
You're going to the Bakell Supreme Pile Awards, Absolute Pinnacle
of Pies tonight exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:26:04):
But I was thinking as I was driving in today,
I need to get back in the game. I need
to sort myself out and I need to get back
into shape, and I need to do it fast. So
I raised it with you before we started the show,
and it's a good conversation. So here are my list
of demands for what I need going forward.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
And so you want to crowdsource this on to the
good listeners of news Talk ZB one hundred and eighty
ten eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
There's a lot of options out there. So here are
my list of demands. I want it fast, so I
want to get into it pretty quickly. I want it
to hit most, if not all, of my muscle groups,
so that's a big one. I want a one stop shop.
I don't want to be going multiple places to try
and you know, get myself back to having a good body.
I've never had a good body. I want someone to
push me hard. So I don't want to do this

(01:26:47):
by myself. I need a boot camp drill sergeant right
there kicking my ass. And I don't want to have
to mortgage the house to pay for it.

Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
All right, okay, and so is self control. Are you're
taking any responsibility for your health yourself or you want
to you know, you want to outsource that discipline to
someone out.

Speaker 3 (01:27:04):
Thank you for asking. I would like to outsource that
discipline to someone else. And I freely admit because I
take my head off to your met You've been doing
a lot of running over the past eight months. You've
got a big race coming up I think in November, right,
you're the first marathon.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Well, I'm running half math on Intopaul this weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Fantastic. Yes, So you're one of these guys you like this,
these David Goggan type guys. Right, maybe not to that level,
but you can do it yourself. And you you're in
your inside your own head saying get off your ass, mat,
get out there running the rain. You're loving it. A
bit of pain is what matters in life. Way, so
you get a hit.

Speaker 2 (01:27:35):
Wait to you hear my new thing that I got.
It's like the equivalent of a bit of nails that
I now lie on, which is it's not nails, but
it's this plastic sheet you put down with spikes on it,
and you lie down on that when you're reading a
book or something.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Not the frecking SHARKTI Mat. Yeah, oh mate, you are insane.
I've tried that and that hurts like a mother.

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
But so there's I was thinking about CrossFit, that's a
big one. Then you've got forty five. Then a lot
of people are tixing through about muy Thai yep. I
don't know how well I'd go in muy Thai yep.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
I broke my back in TI kickboxing, so I pushed
too far on that about ten years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
That just will just scratch that one off the list.
No more jiu jitsu. I like the sound of jiu jitsu.
But at closing in on forty have I left it
too late to get into the likes of jiu jitsu, because,
as I understand it, if you've been into jiu jitsu
one hundred and eighty ten eighty, I've got to get
my butt handed to me for a long time.

Speaker 2 (01:28:31):
Michael Hill was forty when he started Michael Hill Jewelers.
So forty is no time to be giving up the ghost.
You've got another sixty years to go there, buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:28:39):
Yeah, but he was always trueman. It's Michael Hill jewel
for goodness sake.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Yeah, I mean is it is a question. And look
as this textas says Tyler, the easiest way is to
stop shoving all that rubbish into your face. Guaranteed. Every
time I think whatever you do fitness wide, there's this.
You've a certain amount of discipline, right, but also doing
something fun is key. I enjoyed running, but you know
that it depends what you want. If you know, losing

(01:29:04):
weight doesn't come from from exercise, primarily comes from your diet, right,
so you have to you'll have to make dietary changes.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
Yes, you know, and that plays into it. The one
stop shop. So oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty, what
is there's a lot of options out there. What is
the best way to get into shape fast? What have
you found that you absolutely love to do and has
worked wonders for you? Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is a number of call. There's a lot of drill
sergeants ticks in in actually, which is good?

Speaker 2 (01:29:32):
Wow, this is this is what I'm saying. But it
said very sincly, Tyler. You can't outrun a bad diet mate.
It all starts there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Yeah, very wise words. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. What is the best way
to get into shape fast? Love to hear from you.
It's twenty one past three.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Matt Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons. Call Oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on used talk ZV.

Speaker 3 (01:29:57):
Afternoon, twenty three past three. What is the best way
to get into shape fast? What have you found out
of the myriad of options out there that worked wonders
for you? Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 2 (01:30:06):
To call, Matt. Danny Watson used to say, best way
to lose weight is to keep your mouth closed.

Speaker 3 (01:30:12):
Is a white man?

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Denny Watson, Great New Zealand and Denny wantson.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Absolutely, Dave, how are you mate?

Speaker 9 (01:30:20):
Good?

Speaker 12 (01:30:20):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
What do you think is the best way for to
get get into shape rapidly?

Speaker 9 (01:30:26):
Well, let me just give you a quick background. Kept
for normal life, keep the weight under control. You're right
about keeping your mouth shut. No such dude for that,
because don't matter how much exercise you do, if you're overreach,
you're going to gain weight. So all of my life
I've kept for rugby, running, all that sort of stuff.

(01:30:49):
I discovered this form of exercise at the age of seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Okay, well tell you what, You've got a very youthful
voice for someone that's discovered a term of well you
sound about I'm going to say thirty eight. But anyway,
continued Duve. Maybe that's maybe excus wisting.

Speaker 9 (01:31:10):
I'll take that. And yeah, it's an online cycling platform
that really came to prominence during COVID, and a lot
of the professional cyclists found it incredibly good for keeping
their fitness up. Our daughter was an ex iron Man
pro and she got us into it. And I'll tell

(01:31:34):
you that is the thing that has kept my fitness up,
in fact, increased my fitness significantly since I've been doing it.
A couple of times a week. You can ride any
course around the world average hundred and twenty one hundred
and twenty five beach a minutes for an hour, hour

(01:31:54):
and a quarter.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
So is this essentially being on an exercycle with a screen?

Speaker 9 (01:32:00):
Is actually being on a normal bike and you mounted
up on a smart okay yep, and you have like
an iPad or a tea these screens that you can
see the course you're writing. Yeah, And honestly, I've never
been as footicists in my seventy five years.

Speaker 2 (01:32:18):
And are you doing that with other people? Is it
connected up with other people online?

Speaker 9 (01:32:24):
I tend to it's a discipline thing for me. I
tend to do it by myself. Yes, you can have
group rides. You can go on group rides, and you
could even race if you want to. I use it
for keeping the fitness up along with walking and oceans
for me.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
So, how much would the set me back, Dave to
get the old swifting set up?

Speaker 9 (01:32:47):
It's well, if you've got a bike, it's sets you
back about eight hundred bucks for the smart trainer, right,
and then it's about thirty seven dollars a month to
be connected to the swifting platform.

Speaker 3 (01:33:02):
Pretty reasonable, And how do you find yourself in terms
of motivation, Dave, Because it's all very well having the
set up, but you've got to jump on the set up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
Press it doesn't do anything.

Speaker 9 (01:33:12):
Well if you're not motivated to keep fit being you're
a bit lost.

Speaker 3 (01:33:18):
Yeah, very fair, which is the situation, Tires. That's why
I'm in trouble day.

Speaker 9 (01:33:23):
If you're not motivated, it doesn't matter what you want
to take up, it's not going to work.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
But then again, like I've read this fantastic book called
Atomic Habits, and I mean it's a very very famous book,
but it talks about setting things, setting yourself up to succeed.
And so you know, if you make it easier to
do something, and it sounds like this is kind of
an easy thing to do. You don't have to go
through a lot of a rigmarole to get there. You're
not going to drive somewhere, get changed there and do

(01:33:51):
all those sort of different things. So fitness when which
is why I like running, Dave, because all I do
is put some shorts on, put my shoes on on them,
straight out the door, and I'm doing it. But so
you sort of set yourself up for success, I guess,
he suggests.

Speaker 9 (01:34:10):
This's is set up in the spare room of the house.
You can do it anytime. You don't have to just
put on a bit of licra.

Speaker 11 (01:34:18):
You have to do that.

Speaker 9 (01:34:20):
You don't have to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
But you look great with Dave, so you'd be So.

Speaker 9 (01:34:26):
You've got to look good. Yeah, I mean. And what
you'll find, unfortunately, is what age you me thirty nine?
Thirty nine? Good to start now, because if you start
the discipline in your late thirties early forties and keep
it up for the rest of your life, you're going
to live long. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:45):
Yeah, well, thank you you killed Dave.

Speaker 20 (01:34:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
So James Clear is the guy that wrote the book
at Toomic Habits, and one of the things that he said,
Tyler that really helps is that if you're going to
run tomorrow and go to the gym tomorrow, you put
out your shoes and your shorts and your gym gear
the night before, yep, And when you get up in
the morning, the first thing you do is you put
that on. Because once you've got that gear on, you
feel like an idiot taking it off without exercising, you

(01:35:11):
know what I mean. So you sort of set yourself
up to succeed. You make it easier to have good habits.

Speaker 3 (01:35:17):
Remove the obstacles. Yeah, I mean game of fine fitness
sounds like a bit of me and that would be
a lot easier than getting out the door and getting
to jiu jitsu. Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number?

Speaker 22 (01:35:27):
Call?

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
What is the best way to get into shape fast?
What worked for you? Love to hear your thoughts. There's
a lot of good suggestions coming in.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
Is this true? Go commando? It raises testosterone.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
I've already done. I've always done that. My test oseron
is not that good?

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Yeah, do you want to see?

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Uh no, thank you and I we'll be discussing that
with HR. I can't be sitting here with someone who's
presenting on news talks. He'd be commando.

Speaker 3 (01:35:52):
It's not on headlines with Rayling coming up.

Speaker 11 (01:35:56):
Used talks'd be headlines with blue bubble tax sees. It's
no trouble with a blue bubble. Self made Kiwi businessman
and global jewelry chain founder Samichael Hill has died after
a battle with cancer. He was eighty six. A union's
making a legal bid to stop the education ministry docking
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(01:36:21):
working contracted hours and sticking to existing case loads. A
small slip is blocking one lane on State Highway one
in Northland over the Brindurwin Hills. Strong winds and thunderstorms
hitting the North Island and orange rain mornings covered Tasman, Nelson, Marlborough,
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(01:36:42):
and an amber wind alert applies for Auckland's Harbour Bridge
until four. Owners of cruise ship Ruby Princess, which set
sail for New Zealand from Australia as the pandemic hit
in March of twenty twenty, must now pay passengers impacted
by COVID on board after its appeal failed. Agents sought

(01:37:02):
to smell a sell Sells Smith and Coey's Queen Street headquarters.
More at ens in here or premium now back to
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
I thank you very much, ray Lean.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
I think Philip very welcome. A. I think Philippa has
confused two things.

Speaker 20 (01:37:19):
Here.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
She's saying commando on a bike. You guys have to
put me off my afternoon tea break from Philippa. You
know I think someone was saying that from a male perspective,
that going commando for some reason and increases your testosterone,
which can be good for your health, right as you
get older, as you're pushing for forty Tyler. And yet
and another caller was saying, ride a bike. There are

(01:37:42):
two different things. I don't think commando on a bike.
Although you don't wear do you wear under your bike pants? Well,
they don't. Bike pants have the sort of patting and
stuff around it.

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
And I hope so I'm trying to have a family, Philippa,
So I'm not going to try that anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
Tyler, you're looking to get healthy. You're worried about the
state of your bod, and you're worried about the state
of your fitness. So you're looking for the best way
going forward.

Speaker 3 (01:38:04):
Something Yeah, something with stickability that I'm going to get
in shape pretty quick. That's going to give me some motivation. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
And I've got to say, Matt, I'm leaning towards CrossFit.
If anyone out there wants to move me away from CrossFit,
by all means, tell me why, because I hear a
lot of concerning things from some people about CrossFit, but
to me, it covers a lot of basis.

Speaker 2 (01:38:25):
Guys tried jiu jitsu to get fit. Grappling is unbelievably
hard work and use every muscle in your body trying
to throw people on the ground and get them into
submission holds. If you roll a couple of times a week,
you will blast yourself into shape within six months. And
it's great fun learning martial arts that actually works here, Steve,
I mean, there's no one that has tried jiu jitsu,
and I think there's a difference between Brazilian jiu jitsu

(01:38:46):
and jiu jitsu. I'm not sure a lot about it,
but you know, there's not a person that has that
has got into the jiu jitsu world that hasn't raved
about it.

Speaker 3 (01:38:54):
Yeah, life changing people.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Every single person that gets into jiu jitsu says it's
that they can't believe their life before and after. I mean,
I haven't been involved in jiu jitsu, but but they
love it. The zucks into it, isn't he he is
Mark Zuckerberg's changed his life.

Speaker 3 (01:39:08):
It certainly is. He's a ripped human being. Now, glean,
how are.

Speaker 21 (01:39:12):
You good afternoon. Just to give you a little background
on me, I'm fifty seven, although during my twenties and
thirties I did you a lot of sport, including boxing,
although I guess since my late thirties i'd let things go.
Working by myself, I was not controlling what I was eating.
I was sort of going into bakeries after a job,

(01:39:32):
and you know, I found my body was craving for sugar.
So when people say you don't eat when your body's
craving for sugar, it is really really difficult. But what
I found, I followed my pride and employed the services
of a personal trainer, and he also recommended a calorie counting,
which is really onerous, but for me it's worked.

Speaker 9 (01:39:57):
Now.

Speaker 21 (01:39:57):
The personal trainer has given me a weights regime as
well as well as a carbo regime. But it seems
like lifting weights correctly and how we don't get the
better if it's the full benefit of what we're doing
when we don't lift.

Speaker 9 (01:40:11):
Problem.

Speaker 21 (01:40:11):
Not only I've do more calories lifting during weights, I
do car It's so what weights is a good way
of losing weight, but you've got to back it up
with what you're read because what you're put into your
mouth definitely impacts upon your sickness.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
Yeah, I mean some techs you just came through before
that was saying eighty twenty. In terms of you know,
if you're looking to lose weight, I mean you also
get there's also getting fit, which is important, and there
is and but by waights, I mean I was listening
to Hosking this morning and he was talking about a
listener article. He was running down the listener but he
was running up an article that was in the listener.
But anyway, how important weights are as you get older.

(01:40:53):
And my father's in medicine. It was in medicine. He
was saying that, you know, there's lots of people that
have the cardio to stand up when they get older,
but if you don't work on the muscles, then you
can you know, you might be able to have the heart,
might be all right for getting around, but if we
don't have the muscles, it's very difficult to get off
the couch. So weights are very important.

Speaker 21 (01:41:11):
So so far it's worked for me. I mean I
was this time last year as one hundred and twenty
three kilograms and I'm down to one hundred and three. Yeah,
I was talked about ten CAGs to go till you
reach until I reach my idea. Wait, But the thing
is I look a lot younger. As a result, I
feel younger. I can walk a lot faster. You know

(01:41:32):
when I go walking around one tree hill in Auckland,
you know it's like I'm walking with twenty cages less
weight and I'm doing a lot faster. So for me,
you know, the person will train. The costs eighty dollars
a week, but for me it's worth.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
It with your calorie counting. Are you using an app?

Speaker 21 (01:41:47):
Yes, it's called my Fitness Pill, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:49):
Right, yeah, and do you find that you know that's
that's a bit of work, isn't it?

Speaker 21 (01:41:55):
But does it just mean you can't get onerous? It
can get used to it, but it can be onerous
having to scan everything you go for a snack. But
what I found is there are some protein snacks which
you think, well, the protein snack, so surely they must
be good for me. But you're going to scam there's
four hundred delivery there four four hundred great calories.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Yeah, well there's a lot a lot of people that's
trying to scam you out there. Absolutely. I mean I
always thinking about muslei bars my whole life. I thought
musley bars are the healthiest thing in the world, and
then you start looking into it and most muslely bars
are completely The main ingredient is sugar. Yeah, that's how
they bulked them up, so essentially a lolly that you
that we may think is healthy. But yeah, so you've

(01:42:36):
got a protein bar there, Tyler.

Speaker 3 (01:42:38):
Yeah, I was about to say Glenn that I thought
I'd had my nutrition not too bad for the last
couple of weeks that in the morning, I have some oatmeal,
some blueberries, a bit a yogurt in there. Then I've
got in front of me, we are we high protein
bar that was going to be for my lunch before
I have a nutritious dinner. But I think you're right.
It's probably full of stuff that is not really going

(01:42:59):
to power my body going forward.

Speaker 21 (01:43:00):
It depends what branded is. There are some that asked
wasn't really quite good and health health shops recommend them,
and those are just trying to whether.

Speaker 2 (01:43:10):
There's that great episode of the South Park with a
bulking up on the protein powder. It's not necessarily making
you buff three thousands. Hey, good luck and congratulations on
on dropping that that wake Glynn, Thank you so much
for your call. This Texas says a divorce will motivate
you like no other. Getting back on the market. You

(01:43:33):
got to trying to put your best foot forward on
the market.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
All right, I'll take that into consideration.

Speaker 2 (01:43:37):
You know your ex is going I put up with
the with model one and then he's taking two point
zero out into the market.

Speaker 3 (01:43:44):
Yeah. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. What is the best way you've found to
get into shape fast? It is twenty wonder four, the.

Speaker 1 (01:43:52):
Issues that affect you and a bit of fun along
the way. Matt Heathen, Tyler Adams Afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (01:43:59):
They'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about
the best way or fastest way to get into shape
and a relatively short amount of time. I've got a
bit of a list of demands. I need it, let
myself go, so I want it fast. I wanted to
hit most, if not all, of my muscle groups. I
want a one stop shop. I want someone there to
push me hard and motivate me, and I don't want
to have to mortgage the house to pay for it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
There you go, so someone's saying here and this is
what I mean. This just sums up with a lot
of people saying abs are made in the kitchen, not
in the gym. Tyler and the Sticks says, if you're
craving sugar, you can beat it by having a sip
of cream. That's what I thought. But then my partner
started hastling me about cream because I always have cream
in my coffee. Is you know well no Tyler, yeah yeah,
And Trashy keeps telling me that cream is turning me

(01:44:39):
into a fat pack.

Speaker 3 (01:44:40):
I thought cream's good for you in small doses.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
But that's what I thought. You don't want to see
because you see this calor. Theres a lot of calories
and cream, but a tastes so good. Well, that's the thing.
You're going to have to decide what.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
That's the decision I'm going to make.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
I lost six kgs in three weeks just from only
changing my food only two hundred and fifty grams protein
and leafy green salad, cut down to one meat pie
a week and no takeout. The thing with the diet,
as someone said to me, is that you have to
be able to do it for the rest of your life.
There's no point in doing a snap diet that's too
hard to keep up. You have to make a decision

(01:45:17):
that you can keep going because otherwise you'll just slip
back into your old habits and you'll end up probably
bigger than you were.

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Right, yep, hundred percent. I've done that before.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
So can you live this for the rest of your life?
And that's why it may be a change that doesn't
it's not a snap change. Maybe it's something that you'll
lose the weight over a year as opposed to three
months or two months or whatever. You know what I mean.
It has to be something that you can keep going
and that is now your life.

Speaker 3 (01:45:39):
That is realistic. But hopefully I wanted a bit first.

Speaker 23 (01:45:42):
If I can you know, Sue, Oh hi, how are
you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:45:46):
Very good? So better since you have called.

Speaker 23 (01:45:51):
Yeah, I just wanted to ring in and do a
plug for audio books and walking because I remember seeing
an interview with Graham Norton ages ago and Stephen Frye
and he'd lost loads of weight because he just went
for walks and listened to audio books. And that's what
I do. I go for an hour walk every morning
and I have found some amazing books, amazing authors and

(01:46:14):
amazing narrators, and that hour just goes so quickly, and
it's a great way to keep it and lose weight.

Speaker 2 (01:46:21):
Guess what soon, My book's coming out as an audiobook
on the first of August. Oh, excellent, you go a
lifely spanishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life You've Got
by Matt Heath out on audiobook wherever you get your
audio books, Hey, I tell you what, I totally agree
with you in a really long book, Like I like
a really long book so I don't have to make
the decisions too, because you can get an action if

(01:46:42):
you have to spend a lot of time deciding what
you're going to listen to before you start. So I've
been listening to Charles Dickens' novels. I love that because
you know it takes a long time to get through
a David Copperfield or a Bleak House or an Oliver
Twist or a Great Expectation, and they draw you in,
So you know that that can be weeks and weeks

(01:47:02):
of not having to make a decision what you're listening to.

Speaker 9 (01:47:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:47:06):
Usually most of the audiobooks I listened to sort of
like anywhere between nine and thirteen hours, so you get
a couple of weeks out of beach, so yeah, it's
really good.

Speaker 2 (01:47:14):
And how long you walk?

Speaker 9 (01:47:15):
So yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:47:16):
And how I do five k's and that takes me
about an hour each morning.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
Nice? Good on you. But do you eat well as well?

Speaker 23 (01:47:25):
I do try to eat well. I find that going
for the walk allows me to have a good chocolate habit.

Speaker 2 (01:47:31):
So you earn those calories, it's important. Well, good luck
out there, so congratulations on your health. Hey, Matt, take
up any racket sport, tennis, squash, pick a ball. You
never see any unfit racket players.

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Kevin, Squash is amazing for fitness, no doubt about it. Yeah,
how far you're going to move around that week?

Speaker 22 (01:47:51):
Call?

Speaker 2 (01:47:51):
But I see this to someone the other day. You
want to play squash and they took it to me swinging?

Speaker 14 (01:47:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
How did that go?

Speaker 9 (01:47:57):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
Is it true?

Speaker 3 (01:47:58):
Squash?

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
A lot a lot of squash clubs are just a
front for swinging.

Speaker 3 (01:48:01):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:48:02):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
Yep, I've seen it. Let's get a scott.

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 10 (01:48:08):
Guys.

Speaker 24 (01:48:09):
Is that beeping coming from me or you?

Speaker 2 (01:48:12):
I'm hearing no beeping.

Speaker 14 (01:48:16):
That's right.

Speaker 24 (01:48:16):
I'll find out, surely, No. Maybe I'm one of these
guys that I pack it on, but then I start
doing work or exercise and it just literally drops off.
I've in my situations, I lost thirty kilos or water

(01:48:39):
in a space of three months just by simply working hard,
like physically sweating all day every day.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
And so, so how did you do that? Have you
got a physical job?

Speaker 24 (01:48:48):
I take it, Scott, Well, I haven't at the moment,
but then hence I've put it all back on again.
But when I was dairy farming. In different situations that
I was dairy farming in, I'd be one hundred and
fifty kilos. Three months later, depending on what time of
the season it was, I'd be one hundred and twenty
and lean as the raceles. So you big, got lots

(01:49:10):
of muscle mass.

Speaker 10 (01:49:12):
But not much actual body fat.

Speaker 24 (01:49:14):
But then you know, I stopped dairy farming and I
pack it all back on.

Speaker 15 (01:49:19):
So I put the back on.

Speaker 9 (01:49:21):
Over space of six month.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
You see that I'm continuing to move. This is a
problem with Tyler, isn't it, Because he is All he
does is talk into a microphone for a living. So
you get in a car in the morning you drive
in from from wherever you live, Mount Wellington? Yep, have
I given away too much?

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
That's right?

Speaker 19 (01:49:37):
All right?

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
From Mount Wellington and then you park and then you
come here and.

Speaker 3 (01:49:42):
You have my fifty meter walk into the office and
then sit down and talk into a mic. Yeah, so
you got a farm job for me, Scott.

Speaker 24 (01:49:49):
Oh, there are plenty of farm jobs out there, Tyler.
There's at the moment you look on trade me and
there's probably es fishing. Here in Canbury there's I think
fifteen or twenty different farm jobs.

Speaker 5 (01:50:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:00):
Well, I prefer if Tyler didn't leave and get a
farm job. I need him on that mic over there.
So maybe he needs something.

Speaker 24 (01:50:07):
You don't want him to take the micro you two.

Speaker 2 (01:50:11):
She's not a bad idea if he just has sort
of had like a headset.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Yeah, cow shed radio now we're talking.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Yeah, thank of you cool Scott. Yeah, I mean people
in physical jobs definitely have more muscle.

Speaker 3 (01:50:25):
Yeah, the farm strong as they call it. Denis, you've
got a solution for me, you reckon?

Speaker 19 (01:50:32):
Yeah, just you need I think fundamentally you need to
pack an event to have a reason to train, unless
you're highly motivated like Dave goggins or something. But so
for me, my recent one was doing the Higher Rocks
in February this year. So I don't know if you
know the High Rocks, but that's where you do eight
k with one k intervals and after each k you
stop and you do a field event like Burpy's slid pool.

Speaker 8 (01:50:55):
Oh yeah, that sort of thing.

Speaker 19 (01:50:58):
So if you and these different categories, you can do
that in Fools two's individual pro So you push yourself
as hard as you want, but you you will need
a slight bit of strength like fez and even doing
a you know, a lunge with a twenty kg on
your back, you could have a little bit of leg strength,
so you might have build that up slightly. But that's

(01:51:18):
not a bad thing because it's kind of use it
or lose it a But I think fundamentally you've got
to have something that you are working towards unless you
are highly motivated.

Speaker 2 (01:51:29):
I went to this thing the other day Dennis called
Wild Turf. I wasn't competing, my partner was, and that
was sort of a similar thing.

Speaker 20 (01:51:36):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
There was running and then there was lifting and throwing
medicine balls and stuff. It was impressive to watch everyone
competing it. I got quite emotional actually watching these people
that were getting together in teams and working towards it
and fighting as hard as they could for their teammates.
I thought it was a very good thing, and I
was thinking more people should do that, because because you
get the buzz of competition, aren't you, Dennis gives the

(01:52:00):
workout more meaning yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:52:03):
Totally actually listening to your previous core about the farmer too,
you know, like you get some of the skillyware teenagers
that need a little bit of staring in the right
direction that get great mentoring and life skills helping the
farmer out, you know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:52:21):
Yeah, absolutely working hard, yeah, hundred percent season or someone
that exactly just on the high rocks. So granted there's
an event that you lead up to, so what do
you do? So before the event, you go down to
a high rocks gym and you train up for that event.

Speaker 19 (01:52:35):
You can, you can there are a couple of gyms
that kind of have multi programs for it, so you
kind of do it, you know, like those cross train
type things, but you don't have to use a high
rocks gym. You do the exercise it at home or whatever,
and you know, and just you know, obviously do your
running as well. But yeah, there are gyms because the

(01:52:56):
High Rocks is pretty massive now, like there's probably five
events and obviously and there's all over the place and
the next one in Auckland is February next year.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
Yes, that gives people per plenty of time to get
going for that. Thanks for that call.

Speaker 3 (01:53:08):
Yeah, they's got me fizzed up.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
So Steve messaged in and this is I think this
is true. If you have motivation, press ups and squats
will work every muscle group and cost you nothing. Press ups, squats,
maybe a few planks at home every day because if
you do squats, boy, oh boy, your legs hurt the
next day.

Speaker 3 (01:53:28):
Oh it's great for you. Yeah, but again I just
need a drill sergeant right there just screaming at me
because I've tried to do that and I last about
two days before I say, bugger this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
But what about if you put something on YouTube? You know,
while you're doing it, Yeah, you know, so you's entertained
by the TV and you do it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
To David Goggins in the backgrounds. Yeah, absolutely good discussion,
Thank you very much, High Rocks. I think out of
all of those sounds pretty good. I'm going to look
into that one, but we'll keep you data for sex.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
This is matter you basically saying, bring back Top Town.
I am, and coincidentally, I've stolen the Top Town trophy. Yeah,
I stole it from the bowels of TV and Z.
I was working on a show and I found it
in this in this sort of store cupboard. And I've
got the top on one of the Top Town trophies
and I keep my keys in it by my door.

Speaker 3 (01:54:12):
You're a freaking legend, man. It is eight minutes to
four beggery shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends, and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used talks.

Speaker 4 (01:54:25):
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Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
Five to four.

Speaker 3 (01:54:28):
That is us for another day. Almost.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
What's cheating weight? I don't know someone's texting in cheating weight?

Speaker 3 (01:54:35):
All right, I'll google that, give it a try. I
don't know if may would be very heavy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
Thank you so much for listening to the show. We've
loved talking to you, and thank you so much so
for all your texts and phone calls. It's been a
great chat. The full show podcast will be up in
about an hour or so. So if you missed our
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like some people in Toron I think they are, and

(01:55:02):
also how to get fit in a hurry, then follow
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Holmes Broadcast of the Year Heather Its Allen is up next.
But right now, Tyler, my good friend, tell me why
I'm playing this song from Badness?

Speaker 3 (01:55:16):
What a tune our house? Because we've got to get
rid of our love affair with property, says the man
from Prague investment partner Partners. But there was a lot
of disagreement there. Say nothing wrong with love in your house. Yeah,
houses are good.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
I love my house.

Speaker 3 (01:55:28):
You do love your house. It's good ourse.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
Thanks for listening. Everyone, see you tomorrow afternoon and until then,
give my taste a kiwi from.

Speaker 20 (01:55:37):
Us that wasssing.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
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