Full Show Podcast: 30 May 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Hello you Great New Zealanders, and welcome to Matt and
Tyler Full Show Podcast number one, three six four, the
thirtieth of May, in the Year of Our Lord, twenty
twenty five. A fantastic show. We announced the New Zealand
of the week, where should were going to say all
this stuff? I don't know why I say what we
say what we need to say in this intro is
your great New Zealanders, thanks for tuning in and all
that kind of stuff. But we don't need to say
what's on the show because we then announced that all

(00:38):
we need to say is what's not on the show.
What's not on the show is we don't really get
around to talking about water.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Well we kind of do, but we're going to have.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
To briefly, we got bogged down and fat shaming and
also we got bogged down.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
And party partying in your twenties.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yeah, but there's so many good calls, and boy boy,
the lines were packed, and you know, more and more
people keep coming to.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
The show every week, so it's bloody beautiful to have
you all on board.

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Speaker 1 (01:12):
Big stories, the big issues, the big trends and everything
in between. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons News Talk said, be.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Well, good afternoon to you.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Welcome into the show Friday seven pass one. Great to
have your company as always and we always are hep,
you're on a Friday, good feeling hit of a long weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:32):
Two.

Speaker 4 (01:33):
Yeah, excited about that.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Also excited to be in the Kitty Woodham Studio, the
Honorary Studio. It's the studio we've we moved out of
the mic Costing Memorial Studio into this smaller but cozier
and kind of more stylish studio.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Smells a lot nicer in here as well. I've got
to say, so happy to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
But the buttons are different. So if any mistakes, that's
just teething issues, all right. By teething is issues, I
mean Tyler's folt.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Now, before we move on to what's on the show today.
Of the Music Awards, one.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Yeah, so I was watching the tout on Music Awards
last night and bless them, we have some very talented
musicians in this country and great to honor them, But
I reckon before any awards anywhere in the world, this
message from Ricky Gervas that the twenty twenty Golden Globes
should be played twice.

Speaker 7 (02:19):
If you do win an award tonight, don't use it
as a platform to make a political speech. Right, You're
in no position to lecture the public about anything.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
You know nothing about the real world.

Speaker 7 (02:29):
Most of you spent less time in school than Greta Thumburg.
So if you win, right, come up, accept your little award,
thank your agent and your god.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Okay, there should be some kind of global by law
where it has to be played twice at the start
of the night, so would make things a lot more entertaining.
You're good at music, but your riskmaker, dick yourself if
you don't leave it at that. You know, and you're
not saying anything that's controversial for the room.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
You and are you anyway?

Speaker 2 (03:00):
You're on them some great stuff coming out of our
fine country and the world of music.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
So good on you, beautifully said, Right on to today's
show after three o'clock, as we always do on a Friday,
New Zealander of the Week.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Yeah, that's right, Tyler. Who could it be? The jury
is still out, so nine two nine two.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
If you've got a suggestion for New Zealander of the Week,
we'd love to hear from you.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
And remember the New Zealand of the Week.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I met in Tyler afternoons and zib isn't always an
agent of good. It's at the time magazine person of
the Year. You know, they can be amazing, they can
be lame or laudable.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Yeah, just the water Corner news and that we talked
about this week after three o'clock. Also we're going to
have a chat about water around the country. So Timoo's
mayor and Nigel Bowen he's got an invitation for everybody
fly down and taste the country's top water, he says.
So Timatoo took it out within thee I should say,
the twenty twenty five EXOM National Water Taste Test Competition.

(03:58):
It is the third time Timuru has won in the
last six years. Pretty good.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Yeah today tomorrow tim Moreu has the best water in
the country and has a chance of having the best
water in the Southern Hemisphere. So why is it so good?
And there's the water any good where you are?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I'd see.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
You know, I said this, I've said this before, and
I get a lot of pushback. I think water is
lame and I refuse to drink it.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
And you are going to get a lot of pushback
on that.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
It's plain, you know, I put some flavoring in it.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yeah, but it keeps you alive as well.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yeah, but it can keep you alive with just a
little bit of some sparkles in there and a little
bit of flavor.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Yeah, that is after three o'clock, looking forward to that
discussion after two o'clock. Most of us know the Tina
from Turner's ad. It's an earworm, pretty annoying for a
lot of people, but very catchy. Had a lot of
views in celebration, but a few complaints about what viewers
said was fat shaming.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, so we've got that. We've got the line here,
haven't we No, we don't.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
So it was basically, what was.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
It if you're too fat to fit in the front
seat of the car? Yeah, I need I'm paraphrasing there,
but effect it was Tina, we're in the fat sou
and she couldn't get into the front seat of the car.
But we know it's a very poetic, catchy song that
runs for about them.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
We'll get that audio few But look, the ASA, the
Advertising Stands Authority, is pretty strict. They're way more strict
than the BSA, the Broadcasting Stands Authority that Tyler and
I live under, and even at ZB on television and radio,
much stricter of the ASA. So if this is cool
to say that on an AD, does that mean that
we're all allowed to joke about weight again? Yeah, because

(05:36):
forty percent of the country is ob So not joking
about weight hasn't lower obesity rates, has it?

Speaker 3 (05:41):
Exactly? That is after two o'clock and after one o'clock.
Well that's right now. First time by activity peaked at
twenty five percent in early this year, so that's above
the long term average, a new report has found. But
those bind We're also now very very much older, with
Auckland first home buyers average age rising to thirty seven
and twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Thirty seven seems quite old to be buying your first
house to me, are we you know?

Speaker 4 (06:07):
So?

Speaker 2 (06:08):
How many people in their late thirties and forties and
fifties go, I'm glad I bought the house when I
was thirty seven and not twenty seven, very little.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I mean, how old were you when you bought your
first house title?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
I was thirty four, right, so that's up there.

Speaker 2 (06:21):
And do you ever walk around going, God, I wish
i'd bought a house ten years earlier.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, yes, ten years earlier, Yes you said ten years later.

Speaker 8 (06:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Absolutely. If I had purchased a property in my twenties,
then we might have two properties now.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
And we know that it's hard to get your first house,
but it's not impossible, and judging by these numbers, a
lot of people are doing them. First time buyers account
for twenty five percent of properties purchase nationwide April to
January to April to twenty twenty five, so it's definitely possible.
So are we just, for want of a bit of
a word, pissing around too much in our lives? Do

(06:58):
you just need to give up on the travel and
give up on living the luxurious life and just get
on with the things, get on with buy getting on
with starting a family, get on with getting on with
your career, and then you know, in your late thirties,
rack it up.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
In your forties, rack it up.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yeah, oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty. If you did
it the way that a lot of younger people were
doing it. Now that you go and travel, or you
get stuck into your career and you wait until you
were in your thirties before you buy a home. Love
to hear from you, was that looking back now, maybe
a bit of a mistake or are you're very happy
that you've got some travel in now?

Speaker 2 (07:34):
I thought Mike Costking said some interesting words to say
about this on the Breakfast Show this morning.

Speaker 9 (07:39):
There's a whole generation of people out there that have
absolutely convinced themselves that home ownership is beyond them, and
it's not. And we've got living proof in this building
that there are people in their low twenties who have
gone out and bought houses for themselves. And it just
depends on how you view life, what your aspirations are,
what your priorities are. But what I do know in

(07:59):
life is that old saying, if you think you're going
to failure, correct you will. And if you genuinely believe
you can never do something, you're correct, you won't. And
so until we amend that slightly, stats a quarter of
all sales are first time buyers, So there were always
first time buyers and lots of them in the market now.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
I remember when we were young.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
My partner, she was was how I just goed this
a successful rock star and she got a huge payout
and another member of the band said, you guys should
use that for a deposit for a house, and we went,
I reckon.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
We'll just travel around the world for a while with
that and rack it up and parting.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It's not a good time. And it was a fantastic time.
But I look back at that decision and so does
she and goes, you know, maybe we should listen to
you know, you always listen to the drummer in the band.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
That's the smartest. That's a general rule anyway in life.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Are we leaving things too late in life? Particularly when
it comes to buying property. The average age of the
first time buyer in Auckland is now thirty seven. That
is certainly getting up there. Love to hear from you.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, So are you willing to forego all the other exciting,
youthful things in life to just jump on the product
property ladder?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
Yeah? Yeah? Or did you buy late and you're happy
with it?

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (09:18):
Eight hundred and eighty. Ten eighty is the number to call.
It is fourteen past one.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
everything in between. Matt Heath and Taylor Adams afternoons used Talk.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
ZEDB News Talk zed B and we're talking about buying
property as a first home buyer. The activity peaked at
twenty five percent earlier this year. That is above the
long term average. So this is on the back of
a new report by Westpac New Zealand. But those first
time buyers are now getting much older. So the average
age in Auckland thirty seven years bloody ancient.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
At thirty seven, you're basically retiring at thirty seven thirty
six and Wellington thirty five in christ Church, but younger
in the Dunedin, Hamilton and Tronger. But that's probably because
you know, houses are a little bit cheaper, well in
Dunedan they are anyway.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, So the question of asked is are we leaving
these things too late. There's a lot of reasons why
that age is getting older and older, but a big
chunk of that I think as younger people wanted to
travel more, they wanted to get into their career a
bit more. They wanted to do those things rather than
trying to get into a house. It's not It doesn't
seem and feel as important as it used to be.

(10:29):
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the feeling I get out there.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
When you're in your twenties, you don't have the same
desire to put roots down. You're still trying to make
your way in the world. Well I was anyway, So
I felt like I wasn't committed to anything.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Yeah, I don't hear about the house. I just wanted
to party with my mates, but my buddies.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
But looking back now, if I'd bought a house when
I was twenty three.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Woo, Yeah, you'd be hit be home and hoes. Now, James,
you bought your house in your early twenties, Yeah, I did.

Speaker 10 (11:00):
I bought my first home with my partner at the
time at twenty one.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Where was that house, James Nelson?

Speaker 10 (11:07):
And one of them more lower decile areas than Nelson.
But have you still got eighty square meter place?

Speaker 4 (11:14):
All right?

Speaker 2 (11:14):
And you how long did you hold onto that before
you flipped at James, I'm assuming.

Speaker 10 (11:18):
We held onto it and looked at moving on several times.
But the market just didn't work. The first time we
tried to sell the house got no views. It was
not a very desirable property. And then the market ran
right up and then we had sixty people throughout open home.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Wow, what part of Nelson James Stokes? Right, Yeah, gotcha,
I know Stoke well.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
And so I mean, you know that's a while ago.
Now what are we looking at fourteen years ago? So
the market was a little bit different there. But how
glad are you that you jumped in when you were
twenty one?

Speaker 10 (11:52):
Well, because I jumped in so early, and me and
my partner had managed to stay together because I think
the biggest problem is a lot of people don't settle
down as they used to when they were younger in
the eighties and whatnot. People would settle down and stay
with their partner. Because we have, we've benefited from it.
So now we live in a very luxurious house and

(12:14):
we travel over the cities twice a year. And because
we have stuck together and worked on it. Like we
don't have big jobs, like we both work minimal age shops, right.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
And you have since you still both workman a Wayne jobs.

Speaker 10 (12:29):
Yeah, my wife she's worked up in her role and
built up a little bit, but I'm still on minimum wage.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Wow, that's a really interesting point that you make, James.
You know that that's that commitment when you're when you
were younger, because I think that's that's quite a big
part of it, isn't it. Because you've decided that that's
your person for you and you're going to build a
build a life with them, and and then but a
lot of people are.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Going, well, I'm not sure is this the person I'm
going to be with? Is this the life I'm going
to be Is this the city I'm going to stay in?

Speaker 2 (12:58):
And so you that's kind of a superpower, isn't it, James,
to decide that early.

Speaker 10 (13:02):
Well, it's a beneficial thing, you know. I have I
have siblings who have separated from their partners and they've
gone from having their own home to now having to
rent because the money gets split up, and they've got kids,
and it just it really does weigh on people.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Yeah, I mean, look, we don't want to you know
how end God, I can talk but halving my wealth regularly.
But the thing is that traditional choosing someone young and
staying with them.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
There was a reason for it, wasn't there. You know?

Speaker 2 (13:33):
I mean, there's lots of problems with it as well,
but financially speaking, forming that unit early on it's a
huge advantage.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Well, listening to you speak, James, and I wouldn't have
got into property if I didn't meet my partner because
I just didn't think I had the wealth behind me
to get into it. I didn't want to take on
that responsibility and I didn't really care about it that
much by myself. But it wasn't until I found a partner.
We were together a long time, and the thing about
four years and she said, hey, it's probably a time

(14:02):
we look at buying our own house. And at that
point I said, yeah, it's a good idea. It's combine our.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
Forces, you renegade.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
You were just running around lapping it up. Now, James,
when you got into the house, how did you get
into it? Was that would you get any help from
parents or anything?

Speaker 10 (14:18):
Well, I opted out a Kiwi Savor, but my wife
had kV Saver, so we're able to use that. But
back then it was very challenging to actually use your kiwisaver,
and we had the lawyer involved and almost ended up
costing more to even get our kV Savi out but
we're able to just save up. You know, we've been
working since we left school high school at like sixteen,

(14:39):
so we've been working. It's living at our parents' place,
so we're able to save up money that way. And
before I'm near rented. Before I just went out and
bought a house.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Well, and as a decision that you often think, God,
thank god I did that.

Speaker 10 (14:53):
Yes, So, especially with the market how it is, I
don't think even if we were in that same spot today,
I don't think we're being able to go out and
buy our own home because of just how exorbitant houses were.
I have become like the house we purchased. I think
we purchased it for about two hundred and fifty thousand.
It was a two bedroom home, and that house is

(15:15):
probably worth about six hundred thousand now.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, And if you don't mind me asking, James, you're
still in love, You're going to be together forever.

Speaker 10 (15:23):
Well, that's the plan.

Speaker 3 (15:25):
I think, Like answer made it great.

Speaker 10 (15:29):
Your money your money goes well, It's just like my
siblings they thought that too. As soon as they split up,
then things change and your situation can change. So I'm
glad to be in a relationship still and I'm glad
that I have that security. But I think younger generations
with you know, tender and things like that, are not
settling down as early, and that's causing them to lag

(15:53):
a little bit in later life.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
Too many options, so in their wild oats, leading to
poverty and downy.

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Thank you so much for you call James.

Speaker 3 (16:02):
There's James.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
What's a beautiful story.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, that's interesting he said that because I yeah, and
of course I'm going to say this, but I I
never saw it as a financial liability when me and
may have went into the property that I thought we're
going to stay together. But you never know. Some things
could happen and maybe it didn't work out. But I
never thought, oh man, that could be a disaster down
the track. I suppose I've been a bit naive if
that did happen.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, but you're thirty four, won't you.

Speaker 11 (16:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (16:26):
Yeah, he had been around the sun a few times
by then.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Mate, Yeah, exactly. Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call. Are we leaving it too
late to get into property? If you've got into property
a little bit later in life, love to hear from
you to just spend your early twenties, just living it up,
traveling and got into a house later on.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
Yeah, is it as James said? Is it time?

Speaker 12 (16:47):
Not?

Speaker 4 (16:47):
This is what James said.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
But you know, are we just looking for too much
in life when we really need to just settle down earlier,
stop selling your wild oats and get a house.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Yeah, twenty four past one.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking
breakfast the.

Speaker 9 (17:04):
Ministry of Transport Aviation Flight Times and Productivity report James
meag Is, the Associate Ministry of transportant is with us?
Are these numbers acceptable or not?

Speaker 6 (17:12):
I want to look at making sure those trends over
time are going downwards and that airlines are focusing on
the areas that are causing issues for travelers, Like if
you look at twenty percent cancelation rates for Kai.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
James, can I be honest? I mean fitty younger, honestly,
fitty younger drive. I mean, for goodness sake, what do
you expect in a third world country which we are
these days?

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Sadly?

Speaker 9 (17:32):
Do you honestly expect to hop on a seven three
seven to fity younger and take off on time and
be served a cocktail back Tuesday from six am the
Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Veda News Talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
News Talk ZB. It is twenty seven past one and
we're talking about getting into your first time at what
age did you do that? First time buyers are getting older,
a lot older in Auckland everage age is thirty seven,
not much difference in Wellington and or are christ Church?
I think was it Wellington was thirty five? Christ Church
about thirty four?

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Yeah, that's right, thirty seven, Orkland thirty six, Wellington thirty
five in christ Church? So is it as James said, Well,
James wasn't really saying it, but I'm jumping on board
this and adding stuff and that he didn't say the
last caller that people just have itchy feet and they're
looking for better options and they're not willing to put down,
you know, lay roots because they you know, they're on Tinder,

(18:23):
they're looking around for action. They're not just backing someone.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Better, something better is going to come along.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, better town, better country, better person, you know, and
as a result, they end up with nothing till they're
thirty seven.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
Snow, welcome to the show. You've been in real estate
for thirty two years.

Speaker 13 (18:41):
Yes, yeh, I have doesn't seem like it goes, but
that flies by, as you know. And yeah, I have
been and dealt with a lot of people in that time, obviously,
and you see a lot of different friends happening. And
obviously markets rise and fall. But one thing i'd say,
you know that New Zealand we lost when I was
a young fellow. You know, I used to have bank,
a little bank savings account, things that you did when

(19:05):
you're at school.

Speaker 14 (19:06):
You know we've lost Oh well.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Oh sorry, sorry, hold on, sorry, yep, now just pick up.
We just lost it for a sect.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
Look, we've got full disclosure.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
We're in a different studio today and I was playing
around with the mouse and I clicked the wrong thing
and I cut off.

Speaker 14 (19:23):
We all hit the wrong button and again.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah it was snow, so you know, so we'll just
take you back about ten seconds.

Speaker 14 (19:32):
I forgive you.

Speaker 13 (19:32):
I'm always hitting the wrong buttons. But what I was
saying about, you know, to get into your first home,
it is achievable today. It always has been. It's always
themed difficult. But one thing that we've lost in New
Zealand is that the ability to learn to save money.
You know, I reckon everybody should save ten percent of
their income, you know, and they'd be better off, you know,

(19:53):
if they put it into it, not just their KEI
we save it, Key we Save. Has been a great
thing for New Zealand because every every week I'm dealing
with young people who are reaching to their kiwisaver and
they're getting into their first homes. And it's great to see.
And I don't think you'd have any regrets about buying
a property at a young age.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
It's a good thing even and easy for me to
say snow because I was a loose unit in my
twenties and spending money on silly things, as you're probably
should in your twenties. But even having ten percent of
your income going to kiwisaver when you're younger is a
lot easier to do then, right.

Speaker 13 (20:29):
Definitely, And the other option and one like slight criticism
of the younger generation. As you're selling the house, the
first home and the next thing they want to put,
you go around to give them a bottle of wine.
A week later and they're ripping up the flooring or
putting a new kitchen or something. I mean, just keep
your feet on the ground and just and' surely what
you've got the fact that it's your first home, just

(20:51):
to pay some of the mortgage before you do some
of that stuff. And a lot of people nowadays to
going in together, you know, flatmates will be buying homes together.
I really encourage people to do it because you know,
at the end of your days, you know, look, I've
got lots of well people, I know, you know, less
fortunate than than some of us are, and they don't
have their own home, and they're at the mercy of

(21:12):
a land bord and and that's not plesent.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
You know, Yeah, thank you for you cool snow appreciate it.
This texta kind of push us back a little bit
on what's being said. I sailed around the world on
a floating university in my early twenties. Well, my now
husband sailed from New Zealand to the UK. We both
ended up working for Kentucky Good Times, leading tours in
several different countries. So by the time we got back
to New Zealand we didn't buy until our thirties. I

(21:35):
wouldn't trade those traveling years for a million dollars. The
experiences with far more value Now our young adult kids
are doing exactly same, spending their savings traveling the world,
and we couldn't encourage them more. After all, life was
all about the memory building. Thanks guys, Lizzie, Yeah, thanks
you for that text here. That is the other side
of isn't it? Because you know, roots and buying a

(21:57):
house and settling down and that's all good.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
Yeah, but traveling the world in Kentucky and having some
good times in your twenties.

Speaker 4 (22:05):
Boy, people have some good times on the Kentucky tours
and hung free and sing. Yeah. Simon Della was the
one news reader.

Speaker 15 (22:12):
Was he?

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Here was a Konicky tour bus driver? I believe was he?
I think it might have been on the mic. Yeah, Yeah, didn't.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Do well at that. Oh one hundred eighty ten eighty
is the number to call love to hear your story.
Did you do what Lizzie did and you went traveling
and had a great time in your twenties and early
thirties and then when you came back to New Zealand
bought your first home maybe in your forties.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
Because I said before something that has a lot of
text messages coming through and proving wrong, I said, no one, thanks,
I'm glad I didn't buy a house in my twenties,
Like there you go, Lizzie does yep?

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I love to hear from you. It is twenty eight
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(23:13):
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(23:35):
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(23:55):
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Speaker 3 (24:10):
Thank you very much, Raylan. Are we leaving by in
our first home too late? The average age of the
first home Byron Auckland has gone up to thirty seven.
That is a lot older than has been in the
previous generations. Typically it's been in the early twenties or
mid twenties that you get into property. No longer.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Now this is slightly off topic, but this has been
springing to mind as we're talking about this subject, and
we talked to James earlier who said, you know, he
settled down with his partner at twenty one and got
on with his life. And it reminds me of that
movie you might have seen it called Idiocracy. Yeah, cram
out in two thou and six, a might jug judge
movie starring Luke Wilson, and this is the opening, and

(24:47):
it's about people prolonging what they're doing in their life.

Speaker 17 (24:51):
As the twenty first century began, natural selection, the process
by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest reproduced in
greater numbers than the rest, A process which had once
favored the noblest traits of man now began to favor
different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a

(25:12):
future that was more civilized and more intelligent, but as
time went on, things seemed to be heading in the
opposite direction. A dumbing down evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence.
With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began
to simply reward those who reproduced the most and left

(25:33):
the intelligent to become an endangered species.

Speaker 12 (25:37):
Having kids is such an important decision.

Speaker 18 (25:40):
We're just waiting for the right time.

Speaker 5 (25:43):
Again.

Speaker 12 (25:46):
Kids.

Speaker 18 (25:46):
There's no way we could have a child now, not
with the market the way it is now.

Speaker 12 (25:50):
That just wouldn't make any sense.

Speaker 18 (25:51):
Thought it was on the pills, no, Brightney, Well, we
finally decided to have children. And I'm not pointing fingers,
but it's not going well.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
It's always me right.

Speaker 18 (26:08):
Unfortunately, Trevor passed away, but I have some ex frozen
so just as soon as the right guy comes along,
so it will for generations.

Speaker 17 (26:19):
Although I few, if any seemed to lead us.

Speaker 3 (26:22):
The more yeah, the more I think about that movie,
the more things are starting to contact. Couple of pass,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Anyway, It's not exactly the topic we're talking about. We're
talking about first home buyers and the age has blown out.
Average age in New Zealand and Auckland is thirty seven,
Wellington thirty six, and Christytch thirty five.

Speaker 4 (26:40):
So there is.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Twenty five percent of the property purchases nationwide are for
first time buyers.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
They're just much older than they used to be.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Yeah, love to hear from you. Oh one hundred and
eighty ten eighty is the number to call op.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
Sorry, we're in a different studio today. Just pressing the
button there. Yeah for Jonas, welcome to the show.

Speaker 19 (26:57):
Well, thanks for having me. I think the big part
of the problem is that young people nowadays they kind
of want to live for the flesh, you know. I
don't want to do things here and now without thinking
so much about the future.

Speaker 20 (27:09):
I'll be lucky.

Speaker 19 (27:10):
I met my husband when I was twenty three twenty
fourth and we bought our first time and we're almost
mortgage free and I'm thirty five now. But I would
also say that I think there's anability, you know, to
sacrifice when you're young. That's not to say that you
can't give up some things in your rewarded later on
in life. But yeah, I worry that maybe it's just

(27:33):
not the same work per six as well, the ability
is to work hard and save part is it your
first time?

Speaker 2 (27:38):
Did you feel when you bought your house in your
early twenties that you were missing out on delivering a
glamorous life, the holidays and the partying that other people
that you knew were doing.

Speaker 19 (27:51):
I think I've done that part of my life, but
it wasn't fulfilling. I now know that in my kind
of mid thirties and now that we've come to faith,
I realized that that stuffers very short lived and doesn't
fulfill you in the long term. If really doesn't fulfill
your spiritship that have that time for sure. We actually
worked on supiots, so I was a nurse on board
and my husband was a builder. That's how we managed

(28:13):
to save so much money. We saved about one hundred
and forty thousand dollars to buy our best homeless and
then we paid that off. We were mortgage free for
a couple of years before we bought a bagger home
and now we have three children together.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
So I'm working on supiots though. That's I mean, that's
that's the best of both worlds, isn't it. Sometimes, So
you're traveling and seeing the world, but also making some
money and making some decisions that too.

Speaker 19 (28:39):
So I didn't feel like we were missing out because
we did get to travel the med Bahamas, abw Dubai
word for a couple of shapes and Dubai. So it
was definitely an amazing experience and I hope that we
would travel again. When I said three, a bit older,
but yeah, I think because we started young, we now
have our thirties and forties looked forward to another stage

(29:00):
in life. But I think young people tend to be
a little bit more self indulgent. They don't think about
I think that they've got all the time in the
world to do those things later in life without thinkings
that actually by the time they come to the tectives.
For women, yeah, that is going to be an issue.
You're probably the eighties.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
But women, yea, and there's a few out there to
do that. But do you think there's also part of it,
Fiona that first home buyers in today's market they want
their first home to be far more lavish than was
considered in the past. You know, they want the three bedroom,
they want a bit of land, they want all those things,
and they're kind of looking at it as their forever home,

(29:41):
whereas that's not what your first home should be about.
It should be a doer upper or maybe a box
apartment or whatever it is. It's your first step. Then
you get some capital, then you sell that, then you
get a better home.

Speaker 19 (29:52):
Yeah, I'd say social media has got a big cut.
I'm really social media, like I'm talking to you on
my dumb phone. Now I've got rid of it myself,
don't no longer have a smartphone. But what people, potentially
what young people see online are they're not realizing that
it's not reality, which is probably have a lot to.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Blame for comparison is the thief of joy, as they say.

Speaker 19 (30:14):
There's nothing wrong with starting out small. We lived in
eighty square meters as well, and we had two children
under the age of two, and it was really hard.
But when you we've sacrificed in those early years, we
would see the benefit later on in life.

Speaker 21 (30:26):
Both.

Speaker 19 (30:27):
The other aspect of it is that people, you know,
are making an assumption. But I feel like younger people
aren't willing to endure the same kind of comforts that
we were at that stage in our life.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Well, yeah, and you're thirty five. Now you can party
pretty hard at thirty five.

Speaker 4 (30:42):
If you want to.

Speaker 19 (30:44):
Don't party anymore.

Speaker 4 (30:45):
I don't, but if you, But what I'm saying is
if you wanted to, like, the option is still open
to you, you know what I mean. Just the ship
hasn't sailed on.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
That kind of life if you wanted to live it
just because you bought a house in your twenties.

Speaker 19 (30:56):
Yeah, we're more about spending now. They have to spend
quality time effactors and go away for hunting and came
from adventures and.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Things like that.

Speaker 19 (31:03):
That's where our priorities lie. But yeah, the idea is
that if you push that aside, maybe the interim in
those early years, you get way more out of it.
I would say later in life.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, good on your Fiona, and thanks for ringing. So
over seventy five percent of the first time buyers. You're
talking about box apartments and small stuff. So over seventy
five percent of first home buyers are perching standalone houses. Wow,
that's the highest since twenty twenty. So twenty five percent
of probably purchases are from her first home buyers and
seventy five percent of those are standalone houses.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
Time Lavish, Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call coming up. We're going to have a
chat to someone who managed to get into a house
very early by day trading during the GFC. It's going
to be interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
And about four hundred thousand other people that are text
and saying no, rip it up in your twenties. This
is very, very boring way to live your life.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Yeah, you go, it's fear point.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
It is sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Matt Heath Tylor Adams taking your calls on oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heath and Tylor
Adams afternoons news talks.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
They'd be very good afternoon to you. We're talking about
getting into your first time later in life. It seems
to be a growing trend. The average age has gone
up in Auckland thirty seven and Wellington it's just over
mid thirty thirty six, I believe.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Yeah, you're thirty seven in Auckland.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
There, Tiler, you're thirty six and Wellington and thirty five
in christ Church. So narrow bound but later. So first
time buyers more than ever, well more than in recent
years twenty five percent of property purchase. But they're older.
So is that a bad thing? Should more people be
trying to buy a property when they're younger?

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
And if you were someone that bought your first time
a little bit later in life, but you lived it
up in your twenties thirties, travel the world and don't
regret a thing. Really can hear from you?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Hi, Matt and Tyler. I became a first home buyer
at forty eight. Don't regret a day.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
There you go?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Did I wonder what they were doing up for forty eight?
I need sounds like a lot of good stuff. Sounds
like a real party animal.

Speaker 3 (33:01):
I need more.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, send us through more text on nineteen nine two
or give us call on O on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
Welcome to the.

Speaker 22 (33:08):
Show Hi, Matt Tyler. I was quite fortunate. I ended
up buying my first house when I was twenty years old,
back just after the GFC in two thousand and nine.
It was quite an interesting way I did it. I
sort of. I was training pretty young for my parents
to get into the property game, and so I was

(33:30):
working as a water polo referee when I was eleven
twelve years old and fair his job at Dominoes and
I was fifteen and then working part time all through
a university to save up a deposit. But I was
also giving the student loan, which I think a lot
of people don't really take advantage of it. They sort of,
you know, ever get an every week or fortnite and
then go out on the town and spend it all

(33:51):
on booze. So you know, if you put that money
aside and put it into shares or you know, traded
a bit of currency with it, then you can turn
an interest free loan into a saving three deposits.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
Sneaky, sneaky because as the best terms you're going to
get on a loan.

Speaker 22 (34:07):
Aren't they They sure are as long as you're not
leaving the country after you've finished your degree and so
I knuckled down. And the other thing I did was
I didn't buy my dream home to start with. I
bought it under a company. And so back in the
day you could buy under a company called l a QC,

(34:27):
which allowed you to deduct a lot of the expenses
and repairs and maintenance on the property there. And so
I actually rented my first house for about five or
six years and so.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
So you didn't live in it initially at all, Headley.

Speaker 22 (34:45):
No, no, no, So you don't need to, you know,
I mean, now you do it with a lot of
the banking terms. But back in those days, you know,
saved up enough for a twenty percent deposit and brought
in wades down at Wellington, and then I rented it
out to the Brazilian embassy for a couple of years there. Well,
they would have paid well, they Yeah, they paid really

(35:06):
well and never heading the shoose for them as a genant.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
So you're a bit of a you're a bit of
a hustler, Hadley. You've got that mindset of of of
working things out in your interests, you know, thinking things through.

Speaker 22 (35:18):
Yeah, well you've got to, you know, you got to.
You can't think about tomorrow or a year from now.
You gotta think generationally, you know, ten years down the
pass and I think, you know, what are you going
to do when you want to have children? And what
are you going to leave for them when you go?
And so you got to do the hard work earlyer.

Speaker 4 (35:36):
Did you feel like you were missing out on things?

Speaker 2 (35:38):
You know, you say that some people are getting the
student loan and they're running out of bed on the
town and spending it on on the booze.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
I mean that's fun, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
So when people are doing that and you weren't, You
were you're investing in property.

Speaker 4 (35:49):
Did you feel like you're missing out?

Speaker 22 (35:50):
I never never said I wasn't.

Speaker 3 (35:52):
Oh yes, still loose airs.

Speaker 22 (35:55):
But the key is you got to work hard. You know,
work hard, play hard. You know a lot of younger
generation now days, they don't. They don't have they're worth
ethic that some of us.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
As I say to my as I say to my
uns Headley, if you go out with the boys, you've
got to get up with the men.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, it's good saying.

Speaker 22 (36:13):
I had a friend Jim Osborne. He was the top
car salesman in New Zealand from the sody for many,
many years, and he would have a few beers and
whiskeys are the boys, But he'd be in the office
at seven am on the phone calling out his clients
to do the next steal. So you know about that
short time to make it a good time?

Speaker 3 (36:32):
Yeah, yeah, I mean refereeing at the at the age
of eleven. That's pretty good. I was. I think I
was throwing rocks at trees at the age of eleven.
Wasn't thinking about earning any coins? So well done?

Speaker 22 (36:42):
Yeah, no, it was a good time.

Speaker 3 (36:44):
Was that fulla?

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Was that flipperball? Was that water polo?

Speaker 22 (36:49):
A bit of slopperball? In water polo? And nine o' paul?

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Did you get a lip from? Did you get a
bit of lip from? Some of the teams from time
to time would have to correct down.

Speaker 22 (36:59):
Yeah, but you could. You could kick them out into
the corner and then take a little twenty second time
out muck around with Headley.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
I've spent a lot of time by the Paul watching
my kids playing water polo. I tell you he thank you.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
So much for your call, Hadley. I appreciate that. Hey, guys,
interesting topic. We married it twenty five years and saved
up to go to London. Many friends said you should
buy a house before you go.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
We didn't.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Ended up being in London for ten years, came home
with two children in twenty twelve, brought a two bed
brick and tile and fin it a eight years ago
and rent the big house in Auckland. At the moment
while the kids are in high school, looking to move
north and buy land in the future. When the kids
are sussed. We're teaching them to invest their money and
save key. We save us so they will buy before
they travel in London. We should have been more risky

(37:40):
and borrowed one hundred and ten percent those loans. Ye,
one hundred and ten percent loans back in two thousand
and four. A lot of mates that did that when
the banks were giving money away. We're a close knit
family with kids who talk to us. We've traveled the
world with them, had an amazing family trip and twenty
eighteen hindsight is.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
A wonderful thing.

Speaker 10 (37:56):
Though.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
Thanks so much for.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Your text, Emma, love it. We're going to pick this
back up very shortly. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. It's eight to two.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Matties Tyler Adams taking your calls on eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty. It's Matt Heathen Taylor Adams Afternoons News Talks.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
V News Talks HEV. We're going to carry this on
after three o'clock because there is not a phone line free.
But keep trying if you are trying to get through
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. And we are, of
course talking about buying a first time later in life.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
I'm fifty one this year, we have one adult child
and two teens. Bought our first house last year and
we are mortgage free. Wow, okay, well they must have
heard hell that well done. Fifty seven and never owned
a house, lived in my workshops when self employed, had
been mining for years now on a New Zealand rural
farm station as a mechanic general shepherd. Cheap rent, saving heaps,

(38:50):
won't be Buying house is just a slave collar that
ties you to bills and drama. And look I was
saying you can still party in your late thirties. Mark says,
I'm still parting in my sixties and partying hard.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
And Phil says, boys, I can't get through. But I
brought a house when I was thirty eight, and I
would say go do the traveling while you're young. Now
I wish I did that. I eight one hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call as we say,
we're going to carry this on after the two o'clock news,
which is on its way. Very good to have your
company as always. You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very

(39:23):
very good. Afternoon to you extually. I've got time for
I've just spotted this text that I want to get
in before the news hits us. My first time didn't
get any sun for two months of the year, but
I got on the ladder and have owned over thirty houses,
holding some of those for rentals. That is from grant.
There you go, and that goes back into not paying
your dream home for your first home.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
And after the news we'll talk to Purple partied in
her twenties and bought in her thirties.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Yeah. I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call if you can't get through, keep trying.
It is three minutes to too New Sport and weather
on its way. Very good to get your company as always.
You're listening to Matt and Tyler. Very good. Afternoon to you.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Drunk talking with you all afternoon. It's Matt Heathan Taylor
Adams Afternoons News Dogs.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
It'd be welcome back into the show seven past two
and having a great discussion about first time buyers. Activity
peaked at twenty five percent first time buyers into the
market earlier this year, so that is above long term average,
that's according to a new report. But those buying were
now much older. Yeah, that's right, Tyler.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
The average age has increased to thirty seven, and Auckland
thirty six, and Wellington and thirty five and christ Church
and over seventy five percent of those first time buyers
are purchasing standalone houses, the highest since twenty twenty. So
people are buying houses thirty seven. You're deep into your
life buying your house at thirty seven. I mean you,
how old are you? I'm thirty nine, right, so just
two years ago for you.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
But you bought your first house in your thirty four?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Did you thirty four? So I was yep, I was late.
But my partner mate she was twenty seven, so that
was seen as a bit more of an appropriate age
to buy a home.

Speaker 6 (41:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
I had great time on my.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Twelve are we passing around larking it up and not
settling down and getting responsible and setting up our financial
future if we're waiting till we're thirty seven on average
to buy at first time, or is it better to
go loosen your twenties and party hard and work it
out later?

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Yeah? Or both if you've mentioned to do it both.

Speaker 4 (41:21):
Purp, Welcome to the show. You partied in your twenties.

Speaker 23 (41:24):
Yeah, hi, Matte Hi Tyler. Absolutely, I went to London
straight after Yearnie or it's.

Speaker 8 (41:29):
Really hard, partied really hard, coming.

Speaker 23 (41:31):
Back at thirty and bought my first home then, and
I do not regret that for one second.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
How did you have the money? How did you have
the money after you partied all through your twenties, crip?

Speaker 23 (41:40):
I was working hard in London at the same time
and earning good dish. You know you can go over
there and as well. I'm trifted now, but back in
those dayses go over and in some really good money.
So I brought my first time when I came back,
and was mortgage free by forty five, and now my
husband and I are back traveling with more money now.
So wow, you know you can you can still do it?

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Are you how hard are you partying now that you're fifty.

Speaker 23 (42:03):
Not partying so much, just traveling, just traveling, you want
to call that partying? Yeah, yeah, I can before parting
for eight pm.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
That's nice, nice dinner, has a few wines. But you're
not you're not at the clubs still. You know, at
the club still you.

Speaker 11 (42:16):
Kick it out.

Speaker 20 (42:16):
You can afford nice wines.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
You paid yours, Yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
So but but that's kind of I guess if you
can party and work out, that's the thing you can
do in your twenties.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
Though you have you have the energy to work hard
and party.

Speaker 5 (42:28):
Yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 23 (42:30):
Yes, I was a consultant and we were out till
three or four in the morning and going back to
work at eight am. But you could do that and
it was great fun.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Do you think, though, that you could have been more productive?
And everything's turned out great and obviously you're in a
great position now, but you you think if you weren't
partying in your twenties, you could have achieved more in
your your career.

Speaker 24 (42:49):
Yeah, I could have.

Speaker 23 (42:50):
But saying that, I had friends that got married in
their twenties and by the thirties.

Speaker 25 (42:53):
A divorce so I think at the party, meet somebody
a bit later, don't get divorce because that costs money,
and then you're well set up.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Yeah. Ill, thank you so much for your call.

Speaker 12 (43:07):
Pep.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Yeah, I mean that's that that really messes up your
plans if your plan is to settle down early, go
into a property with a partner and do all the
right things. Yeah, you're married at twenty one, then you
hate each other at thirty, and then it all blows
up and then you end up as poor as if
you've done absolutely nothing sensible, And that's life. My daughter

(43:29):
and partner are both eighteen. Hang on a minute, I
read that wrong. So my daughter and her partner are
both eighteen, because that'd be quite achievement. If your daughter
and your partner are eighteen, they are in the throes
of buying their first home in Lower Heart, three beds
stand alone.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
He drives a V eight. They're pretty social. It can
be done. It's from Mark. Thanks for you.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Text yeah, oh eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call love to get your thoughts
and if you want to teach through, you're more than welcome.
Nine to ninety two is the text number. It is
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Speaker 4 (43:59):
In the movie.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
A lot of people are texting through and asking what
the movie we were talking about before.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
It's Idiocracy from two thousand and six. Fantastic. Wow. You
know it's a.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Bit of a hairy movie, but it's got a bit
of a corny but I mean, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:14):
It's got's problems, but it's thoroughly worth watching.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, it is a limp bus two.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Your home of Afternoon Talk Matt Heathen, Taylor Adams Afternoons
call eight hundred eighty ten eighty News Talk.

Speaker 12 (44:28):
Said, be.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Very good afternoon to you. So buying your first time
later in life and partying it up in your twenties there,
maybe even your thirties, good idea if you've done it. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Yes, So you have to remember that buying a house
is much different these days, so buying a first house
later isn't often a choice. Minimum house deposits are much
higher as our house prices, so people have to save
much longer a deposit.

Speaker 4 (44:53):
Yeah, absolutely all.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
But you know, look, twenty five percent of property purchases
nationwide between January and April this year were from first
time buyers, so that's a court of the market is
first time buyers. And yeah, the average age of thirty
seven and seventy five percent of those first time buyers,
we're buying standalone houses, so they're not buying those little
box apartments nov buying a full bloody house with a

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lawn lush. Yeah, incredible, Debbie, thanks for calling your thoughts.

Speaker 8 (45:23):
I was very late when I first bought my house.
I was fifty. I didn't necessarily party after my younger days.
I did have one overseas prope, but I wasn't earning
that much money. You know, I was only in jobs
that was on minimum wage, right, So you know I

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bought my house with.

Speaker 12 (45:50):
My mum's inheritance, Okay.

Speaker 8 (45:54):
Yeah, and my Kiwi saver. I initially went into the
bank to check out with my kiwisaver and it was
suggested that maybe I might want to put a more
good application through and I thought, all I'd never be
able to get a mortgage, and forty minutes later it
was aprow.

Speaker 26 (46:14):
So you just never know.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
So is it something you know, you know, leading up
to fifty, was it something that you were thinking about
a lot that you wished you could buy a house
of something you felt that was that was missing in
your life.

Speaker 8 (46:27):
Oh absolutely, absolutely, yeah, because I was a solo mother
for sixteen years, so yeah, I had limited money then,
so I had the opportunity to buy a house much
later in life.

Speaker 22 (46:45):
So yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:45):
So I've had my house for six years now, I've
not nineteen years off my mortgage during that time.

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Good work going hard.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Whereabouts is your house?

Speaker 6 (46:56):
TV?

Speaker 3 (46:56):
And what sort of house is it?

Speaker 6 (46:59):
At?

Speaker 8 (46:59):
A three bedroom house on an eight hundred and fifty
square meter section or not in the south by kid? I?

Speaker 3 (47:05):
Oh yeah, beautiful spot. It's almost a lifestyle block a
year almost.

Speaker 21 (47:13):
So.

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (47:14):
So when I when I first got my mortgage, it
was only two point eight percent, yeah, right, then it
went up to seven.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Point two feel your pain.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
Which was yeah, which was quite hard by myself.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
How different did it feel, Debbie when you as being
a house owner compared to be being a renter?

Speaker 4 (47:38):
How did it feel for you?

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (47:40):
My god, It's it's life changing, it really is. Yeah.
I never ever thought that I'd be able to buy
my own home, and yeah, it's just absolutely absolutely life changing.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
And you know, you know, have you made any changes?
Because I mean that's that's one of the great things.
When you first own your home, you're like, you know,
I could I could throw up put a sleechammer through
this wall if I wanted to, because this place is mine.
Whereas when you're renting, you even have to consider if
you're going to put a thumbtack in the water hot
put a poster.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
Yeah that's right. Yeah. Now I've got tons of tons
of pictures on the walls, and you know, I've just
started painting and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
So yeah, well, thank you so much for your call, Debbie,
and good on you.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Yeah, what a cool story. Oh one hundred and eighty
teen eighty is the number to call. Love to hear
your thoughts on this one. Michael, you got your first
time in your mid thirties, is that right?

Speaker 27 (48:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (48:32):
I think I was thirty seven or thirty six somewhere
around there.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
Well, they look at that, you're You're right where the
average buyer is now thirty seven and Aukland thirty six,
and Wellington thirty five and Christytch.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Where did you buy your first home, Michael.

Speaker 6 (48:43):
I actually moved to the need And to buy my
first time. We were living in Auckland and my wife
I recently married my wife got pregnant with twins and
realized that we were going to be on one income
for a while, and living in Auckland on one ocome's
pretty tough. So we looked at I was a teacher.

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I could find a job pretty much anywhere in the
country that was going to pay pretty much the same.
So we had a look and moved to the Needen,
bought a house and our mortgage her fortnite was half
when our rent per week was it awkward, So like
it made sense. But also, you know, part of the
thing is that I noticed I didn't even think about

(49:27):
buying your house when I was single. And I had
a look at some of the stats, something like sixty
percent of first home buyers are married. Yeah, and that's
been fairly consistent through years. And what's happened as the
marriage ages got older, so as people have, like in

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nineteen seventy five, the average age for marriage was twenty
two and now it's thirty four.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, that's kind of what James was saying. So James
met the woman of his dreams this is last hour
a while ago when he was twenty one, and so
he locked things in. So until you do that, then you, yeah,
you're not really know you maybe not ready to grow
some roots yet.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
Well you sort of. It didn't make sense to have
something that was permanent. I wanted to be a little
bit less settled, whereas once I was married and looking
at kids, then being settled made a whole lot of
sense all of a sudden, you know. And so before that,
I travel I went around the world. I was a
cricket writer for a while and traveled around to different

(50:29):
stadiums around the world watching watching cricket and writing stories
about it. Pay very well, but that was it was.
It was. It was a pretty good experience doing that,
and I did all sorts of thing, you know, So yeah,
it was. It was great fun doing some of that stuff,
but it was it was never a thought really to

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And also, if you're single, you've got to save that
deposit by yourself. So like a lower quartel house in
Auckland is about seven hundred and fifty thousand, seven hundred
and sixty thousand a moment, that's your that's your basic
price for a new a first time buyer. The lower
quarte house's more useful than the median and that rate

(51:12):
at the moment on the median income, the median graduate income,
which is that's about and take about nineteen years if
you save ten percent of your income. Yeah, yeah, exactly, say,
but to save a twenty percent deposit.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Are you Are you still in Duneda now, Michael.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
No, No, we actually sold up and moved back up
to Auckland and we're renting again now. But we sold
in Dunedin and we're planning on trying to buy here.
But we we started a house that was slated for
demolition and we rented that knowing that we're only going
to have a little while, but thought that was all
right when we started our house in Dameda and we

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live in this place and basically the owner, instead of
demolishing and developing it, sold it to someone else who
wanted to land bank it and said to us, if
you just pay the rates and the rates and insurance,
you can stay living there. And so we're living in
a four bed trip house on paradid.

Speaker 22 (52:10):
Next to nothing for it.

Speaker 6 (52:11):
So I'm not keen on buying at the moment because
no way I could afford anything close to this.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, before you go, because I'm a Dunedin born and bred.
What school were you teaching out down there.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
I taught at Bayfield when I was down there class,
but you know that's I'm not teaching anyone. That was
a few years back. But yeah, it was interesting. One
thing I found it was fascinating was that a lot
of the issues that we had in South Aukland teaching
in South Auckland, a lot of them happened exactly the

(52:45):
same in South Dnedon, except the faces were white rather
than brown. It was often to do with where people
sat in the social hierarchy rather than maybe what we
thought was ethnicity when we were up at Auckland, but
actually it was you know, you had a lot of
similar issues, but it was just different, different colored pies
causing the problems.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Yeah, there's a lot of people that do it tough
in South du Need. In my alma mater, Logan Park
called Bogan Park High School as we call it in
the news. I thought there's some kind of misappropriation of
cash of three hundred and thirty thousand at Logan Parks off,
but that's a different issue. Okay, Michael, We'll let you
get back to the dishes or whatever you're doing there.
Appreciate your call.

Speaker 3 (53:23):
Sounded like it was ending in the dishwasher or something.
But multitasking.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Maybe he was, maybe he was starting the demolition of
his house and stuff.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Got to play some messages. But when we come back.
A very interesting text of just spotted here. I'll read
a little out.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Someone is very angry at us, very very interesting that
anyone should be partying at all.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
This is going to be good. I'll read some of
that out. I can't read it all out, or maybe
I can. It's twenty three pasts.

Speaker 4 (53:50):
To read it out.

Speaker 1 (53:56):
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons call OH eight hundred
eighty ten eighty on News Talks.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
V News Talks. Thereb it is twenty five past two
and we're talking about our first time buyers getting older.
The average age in Auckland for a first time buy
an hour is thirty seven years old. But there are
a lot of first time buyers in the market. It
is wretchet. It up to twenty five percent of the
market at the start of this year. That is a
lot higher than it has been over the last three,

(54:21):
four or five years.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
And you said you had a text before the break
Tyler that you were not sure whether you're going to
read that or it.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
Yeah, so I've had two cens of some of the stuff,
So here is the text in question. I'm so disappointed
at you, two muppets. Why are you encouraging partying at
any age? That is what's wrong with the generations of
today is that they want to act like fools in
their twenties when they should be starting a family and
working to support our country and community. The fact that
people are not buying their homes until their mid thirties,

(54:49):
it's frankly a disgrace. And you guys should not be
encouraging any sort of party party that you gay party
consider yourself told Matt Heath.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Party this Texas is not everybody gets the choice of travel,
slash party or buy a home. Some people literally a
matter of survival, just getting through life. Yeah, I mean,
there's always people, there's always examples of things that are
incredibly terrible, but that doesn't mean you can't talk about
the usual experience of people, and generally most people do

(55:18):
some partying in their twenties. Yeah, I mean I don't
think it a lot. I think that's controversial. No, I
mean some people can't. Some people's life is just a
matter of survival. But generally speaking, most people can party.
I mean, in my twenties, I had no money, but
I was partying with riggers of a Tago draft and
meaning's gin.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah, it's very true strategy exactly exactly if you're into partying, You're.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
To Chris Porters first house at twenty three, five hours later,
debt free and three million dollars worth of property.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
Hailey, welcome to the show.

Speaker 28 (55:55):
Hi, thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Thank you for calling. Hey lot we said that simultaneously. Gin, Yeah, it.

Speaker 20 (56:02):
Sounded like it.

Speaker 28 (56:06):
I just wanted to call because I've purchased a house.
I think I was twenty seven when I bought it.
I'm thirty now, but I just think that expenses are
really high now and it just makes it really hard
to purchase, especially close to cities, and with a lot
of companies now wanting their staff back on site or

(56:27):
at least half of the time, that makes it difficult
as well to purchase further away. For me, I've purchased
about it was almost two hours away from Wellington, and
then they brought back the fifty percent of time in
the office, so that was a bit of a shop.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Because from which way from Wellington?

Speaker 12 (56:48):
Were you?

Speaker 3 (56:50):
So I'm in living ye have a place?

Speaker 28 (56:53):
Yeah yeah, yeah, well it's a good place to buy. Yeah,
but you know, and I also think it's not necessarily
about sacrificing a lavish lifestyle, but that is part of it.
I think the real issue is education then understanding how
to stay and prioritize money. But that's something that I
think needs to start from a very young age and

(57:14):
having that appreciation for a dollar, you know, rather than
just you.

Speaker 12 (57:18):
Know, buy.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
When my son, when my son, when he was fourteen,
he got a job working at a cafe, and the
change when he just described everything as how many hours
it talked to yeah, you'd buy something like you'd buy
you'd be at a cafe and get breakfast and go, wow,
that's two hours work there.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
It's a great lesson to learn. Yeah. I just wonder
if it is also Hailey listening to Debbie who called
in a bit earlier when she went to go see
the bank and she never thought she'd be able to
get a mortgage and it was approved within forty minutes.
You know, that's a part of it, is that, no doubt,
it is harder to get into the property market. But
constantly young people are told it's too hard, You're never
going to be able to get into a house by yourself.

(57:56):
You may as well stop trying. That's the wrong message.
You may as well go and talk to mortgage advisors
and people and figure that out. And I think a
lot of people would.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks so much for you call, Haley.
Appreciate that, afternoon, team. Here's a stat that might surprise you.
A person paying the average rent, which assuming this only
ever increases at the rate of inflation, will pay about
three million in rent over forty years. And contrary is
a person who buys the average house with twenty percent
down will pay about one point eight million in interest
in house expenses and then have an asset worth about

(58:27):
three million forty years later. I mean, that's that's Henry's math,
and you know, that's that's the idea. That's what we've
all got in our head. You know, high Fellers bought
my home, one bedroom unit in Auckland in two thousand
and eight for two hundred and sixty five now worth
eight hundred and forty K. We'll never forget the day
paying off my mortgage at ASP Bank I said, I'm

(58:49):
here to pay off the five k to clear my mortgage.
The TALLI said, okay, pushed a few buttons and said
next outdoors with Scotty. Yeah, it's funny, but it's funny
when people don't care about how much these big moments.
I was involved in a situation where we put ten
thousand dollars on black the casino in Las Vegas. So

(59:10):
I put ten thousand dollars on black on the roulette
table and it came up red, and.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
The and the guy, the concierge. What is it they're
called croupier.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
I guess they're called just said you get a hunch,
you bet the bunch and just dragged it into a
hole and then we walked on.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Oh that hurts.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Disappeared there. Anyway, that's a much bigger story I don't
have time to tell now. Zane, welcome to the show.

Speaker 29 (59:34):
Yeah, okay, yeah, thanks for having me. Guys. So my
story is, I'll keep it keep it. A short time
from christ Church, I did in my university and then
I become a primary school teacher. I did a minimum training,
well I did the training and then one year to.

Speaker 30 (59:50):
Get your certificate.

Speaker 29 (59:52):
My principal offered me two more years of work, but
as my father died there time I hit five thousand dollars,
I decided, no, I'm going to hit the road. I
went overseas, thinking it was going to be away for
two years. I came back nine years later. I was
completely broke when I hit New Zellen and my mum
lived in Auckland. So I came to Auckland and I

(01:00:15):
was thirty five, and I got a job in a
language school. I worked hard, put my money together, and
I had a Japanese girlfriend which I met in the class,
and together we put a deposit on the home thirty
nine four years later in Grayland. And and I'm still
thirty two years later, I'm still here.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Yeah, well done, Well hang it on Mante thirty two
years of owning a home in gray Lin. That's there's
some capital game for you there right right there, that
Dane change.

Speaker 16 (01:00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 29 (01:00:45):
Well, ten years later I bought a house in Point
Ship and I had it for eighteen years. I sold
it in twenty twenty one, and I'm going to use
the equity this year to put about a half a
billion renovation on the house.

Speaker 11 (01:00:57):
Yeah, and I'm seventy yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Yeah, you can't have it. All's aye, well done?

Speaker 29 (01:01:03):
Well yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's just I just
said I ended up here I didn't like so this
is way corks on the first but that sort of
you know, it's growing on me.

Speaker 4 (01:01:12):
Yeah, good place, Good on, yr Zaine. Thank you so
much for your call.

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
And thank you to everybody else who gave us a
buzz or texted. That was a great conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
And you said so anti climac paying off your mortgage,
shaved as a solo mother walked and paid off one
hundred and ten thousand. A couple of cliques of the button,
no CONFITTI fell from the ceiling, no balloons, and I
walked out again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
That is so cutting to hear. They should give you
a coin or something, you know, just something to say, well.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
Done, letter from the king, you paid off your mortgage, come.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
On, just something to mark the milestone. Anyway, Thank you
very much. Right, coming up, we're going to have a
chat about Tina from Turner. She's back in the news.
Why we'll tell you very shortly. It is twenty seven
to three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Yeah, and just before we go into that, after the news,
I've got a little bit of philosophy on settling in
life that I just want to cook shit with you
and then well then we'll get stuck into fair shaming.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
All right, this is going to be good twenty seven
to three.

Speaker 12 (01:02:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
So we haven't a chat about Tina from Turners. There
was oh god, tune you mikee on Tyler. I'm just
thinking how I'm cut it? But quiet, Hello, welcome back
into the show. We are professionals. We can assure you
of that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
That's that's two Mike failures in this show today.

Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
I've got no excuse. I've got my cans on. I thought, geez, Mike,
we need it below.

Speaker 4 (01:03:49):
We need one of those things. How many days since
Mike failure it's now zero?

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
Yeah, and Mike taser maybe right just before we get
into having a chat about Tina for Tina from Turners.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Yes, so we were talking before about you know, first
home buyers much older than they used to be, thirty
seven as the average in Auckland thirty six, Wellington thirty
five and christ Church. And we had a caller, James
that came through very early on who decided that he
was in love when he was twenty one and has
been with the same person ever since, and they've bought
their house together. And he was stable, and he puts

(01:04:20):
that down a lot to his success, but yause he
wasn't running around trying different things. He was happy to,
you know, lay.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Some roots, settle down. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
So you know, I was studying this a lot when
I was writing my book, and I haven't done it.
I haven't talked about my book for a while, so
you know, we'll get it in there. What's the title again,
Our Life is Punishing Thirteen Ways to Love the Life
You've got available.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
In all good bookstores. Okay, I'm recording the audiobook this weekend,
Actually you are. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
But anyway, when I was looking into to to know
loneliness and happiness in life, in one of the chapters,
there's a couple of philosophers that I thought i'd share
this for you. And because we're all told to try
and find the perfect person in the world, and that's
what we're actually trying to do. There's a perfect person
for you out there, and that you should do everything

(01:05:03):
you can to get that person, and you shouldn't settle
in life. There's a perfect person waiting for you, and
you should spend.

Speaker 4 (01:05:09):
Years doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
So so I'll just read this, but if you spend
your life searching for a person who doesn't exist, you're
going to spend a serious amount of time on your own.
In this life changing book, The Course of Love, British
author Elen de Button argues that it is infantile to
expect someone to be simultaneously a best friend, a lover,
a co parent, a co chauffeur, and a business partner.

(01:05:30):
This idea leads to resentment and disappointment and ruins marriages
that would otherwise be very fruitful and rewarding. A partner
doesn't need to fill all of these roles in your life.
Your mates can be your best mates, your business partner,
your business partner, and your lover your lover. All you
have to do is find someone you like who loves
you and you love back. Once you've done this, settle.
The British philosopher of a Bertman believes that not only

(01:05:52):
should you we look to settle we should do it
in a way that makes it harder to back out.
Moving in together, kids, marriage, by a house. You only
have so much time in the world to build a life,
so lock in some people around you and share what
little time you have with them. We end up happier
when we give up the fantasy life and get busy living.

Speaker 4 (01:06:10):
Out real one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
There you go, yeah, busy living settle, settle, settle early,
find a girl, settle early and buy a house.

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Find a girl and settle down.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
You crazy kids. Great discussion, and thank you very much.
There's a great piece. So let's have a chat about
Tina from Turner's. She is back in the news, well
the ad anyway, and most of us would know the advert.
It has been wildly successful. It's an earworm. It is
pretty annoying for a lot of people now, but very
very catchy. But that ad in particular, which includes the

(01:06:41):
line you got so fat the seats don't fit, hasn't
gone down well with everyone. But here is a little
bit of that ad.

Speaker 31 (01:06:48):
You've got so fat seed stone fatsion.

Speaker 3 (01:06:58):
All right, all right, so we've heard that plenty of time.
So some of the complaints that came through about that
particular line and ad, so I'll read out the exact
quotes that were sent to the ASA, the Advertising Standards Authority.
This advert contains a song, jingle and depiction depiction rather
of a very fat person trying to enter into a car.
The jingle also refers to that fat person. The issue

(01:07:20):
I have with this advert is its context of fat shaming.
That was one complaint. Another one was a significant percentage
of kiwis a classified as ob circer forty percent in
this advertisement is a major offensive slur on fat people,
some of who overweight or obese through no fault of
their own due to medical conditions. The new Turner's ad
features Tina in a fat suit and the words you

(01:07:41):
got so fat, the seats don't fit and a final one.
I have contacted the marketing manager at Tenna's car who
refuted my concerns about fat shaming and the offensiveness it
would cause to a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Okay, but the ASA, the Advertising Standards Authority, what did
they come back with, Tyler?

Speaker 3 (01:07:56):
They said, I quote, the ad does not reach the
threshold to breach the relevant Advertising Standards Authority codes and
therefore we will not take it any further. So effecta
do you go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
So the ASA, the Advertising Stands Authority, that's pretty strict.
As I was saying before, they're way more strict than
the BSA, the Broadcasting Stands Authority that this radio show
and television broadcasts are under and personally, I've been rebuked
and fined and shamed by the Broadcasting Standards Authority many times.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
In my life. I've come after you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:29):
They're they're pretty loose. They're pretty loose, but they've come
after me. The advertised the Advertising Stands Authority is pretty strict.
So if this is cool, if this is cool to
say that in an ad, right, then does that mean
we're allowed to joke about weight again? Because there's a
lot of talk around that you can't be joking about
weight and that any joking about someone's weight as we

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have in this particular ad is fat shaming. But if
the ASA doesn't think it is, then maybe that's where
we're at now. You know, forty percent of the country
is obese, so you know, not not making jokes about weight,
which will be doing less. I've lately has not been
making peace people less obese, has it?

Speaker 6 (01:09:10):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Because here's the thing, right, is that skinny people get
made fun of, and a hopefully a bit of a
banterish way, a jovial way. But sure people made fun of,
tall people made fun of But if someone is a
bit overweight, you cannot say anything about their particular weight
without absolutely being a visrated And so can you get

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your thoughts on that? As that you know?

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
Well? Andrew Dickens wrote an article in the Held if
I remember rightly about he's a very thin man, Yeah,
a very thin man, and he reckons that he's been hassled.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Quite a lot about being skinny exactly. You can read
that in the Herald. So how do you feel about that?

Speaker 4 (01:09:46):
What have you got? The line again? There it's you've
got so fat you can't fit in it.

Speaker 31 (01:09:51):
You got got so fat, stone fat.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Got so fan as well? She do we get there
as well? So Tina, shame on you.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
She's great New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Yeah, I eight one hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call. It is seventeen to three back in
a mow.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Your home of afternoon tour mad Heathen Taylor Adams afternoons
call eight hundred eighty eight News Talk Savy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
Good afternoon. We're talking about Tina from Turner's the very
popular and catchy new ad, but it has sparked a
few complaints of the ASA, and as you said before,
matt ASA certainly has some teeth when it comes to complaints.
These two complaints though around fat shaming. There's a line
in that ad you got so fat, the seats don't fit,
and Tina is wearing a fat suit, and so a

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handful of complaints have been sent into the ASA. But
the ASA went back to those complainers and said, nothing
to see here. It does not reach the threshold.

Speaker 2 (01:10:44):
So what's the exact line here? Because people are texting
through asking but.

Speaker 31 (01:10:48):
You've got so fat, set stone fast.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
So that someone sets through. You've got this wrong. The
quote is so fat, the seats don't fat. It doesn't
say you're so fat you don't fit, So no shaming. No,
it seys you got so fat.

Speaker 31 (01:11:00):
You've got so fat, seed stone fit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:03):
You've got so fat, the seats don't fat. Well, I
could tell you what it's. We're definitely it's definitely working
for them in terms of.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Yeah, that free marketing.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
It certainly is.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
As we play it over and over again.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Oh one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number
to call.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
I work in marketing myself. No matter what marketing you do,
people will have problems. The reason the campaign is so
successful is due to the slightly off kilter nature. It's
probably one of the most successful campaigns in New Zealand
in the last five years. Eight hundred thousand views on YouTube,
I believe.

Speaker 3 (01:11:28):
Yeah, very very successful. Oh my god, guys, we are
getting very precious. I am overweight and I had a
chuckle at this ad because it would be my sore
knees that would make me look like that getting into
the car, not my weight from Karen.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
Thank you very much, Jason your thoughts on this.

Speaker 32 (01:11:44):
Hey man?

Speaker 22 (01:11:44):
How we're doing very good?

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
What do you reckon?

Speaker 32 (01:11:47):
I think the guys at the advertisment' got this right.
Heaven though, I mean, come on, it's a bit of
a chuckle. I mean, we're not talking about the lorical
genius viving animal Taylor Soft here. This is It's quite comedic,
you know, and for the next twenty minutes, you know,
talk about this on primetime radio. It's been on the news,
it's been on the Heir and the stuff. This is
the best use of the strides in effect they've ever heard. Yeah,

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must be laughing a way all the way to the bank. Ye, unbelievable.
You know, I'm fair, you're ugly, but I can die
you get on far out?

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Yeah, what is it about? Because it's I think it
is the case, Jason. Then when it comes to people
being overweight, you can tend to make people make fun
of people for being skinny or being too tall or
being sure, and they don't take offense. But then when
it comes to and there's a word for it, fat
shaming apparently, you know, fat shaming is a massive taboo.

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And it's just to me, it doesn't make much sense.
I'm I'm quite a chunky fella at the moment. And
if Matt said to me, he said, mane geez, you've
got a massive gut on you.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
You've got a massive gut on you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 (01:12:49):
I do think it's really offended actually, but yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Don't know if you've got any thoughts on that, Jason,
about why that seems to be a no no whereas
other bits of bend are okay when it comes to how.

Speaker 32 (01:13:01):
We look, Oh, I think it's I mean, there's all
sorts of Benn't it's about the way you look, the
way you feel, the color your here, you know, the
old hugger and all that sort of stuff. You know,
things are good, things are bad, and just have a
good laugh and if you don't like it, churned to channel.
Was anything right?

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
Yeah, that's right. Don't use turns a little.

Speaker 32 (01:13:20):
Bit too pressure. It's a little bit too pressure.

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Well, thanks, Jason.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
But the to be fair, the advertising stands authority agreed
and they said it was fine. But I mean, it's
not really fat shaming because you're not really judging. You're
just saying something there's a potential. It is possible that
someone could get so fat that the seats.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Don't fit anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Yeah, and so, but she's not saying I think any
less of you because of that, or that you're somehow
a bad person or a lesser person because you got
so fat the seats don't fit.

Speaker 3 (01:13:47):
It's a good point, wasn't jo. It was just saying
this could be a reality.

Speaker 32 (01:13:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
Oh, it's definitely reality. It's it's something that's happened.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
So, you know, can you be offended by someone describing
something that's true?

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
I mean, that's just reality.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
It's just a description of reality exactly our takes to you. Guys.
What if Turners made the complaint themselves for extra attention.

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
Yeah, maybe be brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
That would very fre that'd be genius. Eight one hundred
eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
This Texas says, Hi, guys, I'm fat. The ad makes
me laugh. Time to get over ourselves, loll Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
We're taking your calls on this and I love to
hear your thoughts. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty few
calls to get to very shortly. It is ten to
two three.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
The issues that affect you, and a bit of fun
along the way. Mad Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons us
talk said, be.

Speaker 5 (01:14:34):
Good afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:14:34):
That is our queue to start talking, and we are
having a chat about fat shaming on the back of
teeners from Turners car ad. It did encourage a few
complaints to the ASA. They've turned down those complaints, but
the complaints were about a particular part of the ad.
The lion is we'll play that very shortly, but the
line is you got so fat the seats don't fit,

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and so the complainers said that was clearly fat shaming,
but the ASA said it did not reach the threshold.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Yeah, so is that as the AASA, as I say before,
which is much harder harsher than the BSA, much stricter
as the A say saying that just mean that it's
sweet as now and we've moved on from a previously
quite precious phase in our history to just being a
little bit chill about things. This text just says here,
love love, love this ad, love Tina, love everything about

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this ad, whereas this text has said this ad made
me pay for YouTube success.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
That's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
When I said before there was eight hundred thousand views
on YouTube, I wonder how many of those are forced?

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
Yeah, yeah, very true. My god, there's a lot of
ads on video ads on YouTube, Oh my god. In
certification of the Internet. Well that's another issue.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty is the
number to call up to hear your thoughts on this one, Nicole?
How are you? Oh, Tim? Sorry, sorry, we'll go, we'll go,
we'll go, we'll go.

Speaker 4 (01:15:49):
I'm sorry. How are you good?

Speaker 14 (01:15:52):
Yeah, I'm good. I personally sent the complaint or a
couple of people who sent the complaint to the as
they should start It group talk about how their feelings
and all that sort of thing. You know, I've grain
a seat and you're either charge and you know, lose weight,

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or we'll just deal with the crap that will come
your way.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
You know, did you did you outgrow a car seat?

Speaker 32 (01:16:22):
I did?

Speaker 14 (01:16:23):
I did a disgraceful lovely seat as well nice for
car seat, and I was seriously threatened the bolsters and
it's like I can't be having that. So my solution,
house is my solution. I've got a different car for.

Speaker 3 (01:16:40):
A while from tennis.

Speaker 14 (01:16:41):
I didn't want to No, I didn't actually house.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
So I mean seriously, no, no, no, no, you go, tim.

Speaker 11 (01:16:52):
Yeah, I mean so you know, uh.

Speaker 14 (01:16:55):
You've got to deal with just got to deal with it.
You know, if you're overweight and you don't, people are
going to make compliments about comments, whether you're fat, skinny, black, white, anything.
It's open season. And if you live alive in this
world and either let it roll off or have them

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up about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
People when you are are you still are you able
to fit into car seats?

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
Now?

Speaker 11 (01:17:26):
Yeah, I'm sitting in my WEF.

Speaker 14 (01:17:28):
You canry right now. Quite generous generous seating.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
And when you were in the state where you couldn't
fit in seats? Did people did people bring that up
with you? Did people say that to you, that you
that they thought you were overweight?

Speaker 14 (01:17:43):
People pointed out to me absolutely, and they were right
to do so in a good way, you know. And
you are always going to get the you know, somebody
who can't quite articulate their thoughts that well, like you know,
FC and that kind of thing and whatever. That's good
as well a smile, nod and or or dish it

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back and you'll generally find that they can't heck it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Thank you so much for your call, Tim, And you
know it sounds like you've got at attitude on that.
We've got a lot of calls coming through one hundred
and eighty ten eight. So should we keep this topic
going after the news?

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
Absolutely, and we want to hear from you so fat
shaming On the back of this turner's ed the a
A said that it didn't meet the threshold with the
line you got so fat the seats don't fit?

Speaker 31 (01:18:29):
So can you get fat the seats don't fit?

Speaker 33 (01:18:32):
Exactly your new home for insightful and Entertaining talk, It's
Matt Heath and Tyler Adams Afternoons on News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:18:42):
Sebby Very Good Afternoons. You welcome back into the program.
Great to have your company as always, and we're talking
about fat shaming. This is after some complaints targeted towards
the Tina from Turner's popular and catchy ad. So the
complaints came into the asas. One of the complaints said,

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the advert contains the song jingle and a depiction of
a very fat person trying to get into a car.
The jingle also refers to that fat person. The issue
I have with this advert is its context of fat shaming.
So the line in that ad is you've got so
fat the seats don't fit for The ASA came back
and said that it does not reach the three shold

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to breach the relevant Advertising Standards Authority code.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
Yeah, that's right, And so I was saying before, the
ASA is far more strict than the BSA, BSA being
the Broadcasting Stands Authority in the ASA being the Advertising
Standards authority. So if they don't have a problem with that,
does that mean that's sort of an indicator that as
a nation we've sort of moved on from being as
precious as we were at one stage because we got

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pretty precious for a while there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
We certainly did.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
Or am I reading too much into it? Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty And what do you think about
the ad? Do you actually think it's fat shaming? And
there is there is a problem here this textas says,
my friend and I wade a playgroup. This big woman
said to her, God you to skinny a quick ad
a flash. She said, how would you feel it if

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we said, God, you're fat?

Speaker 4 (01:20:14):
Pauline?

Speaker 2 (01:20:14):
Both of us were young mothers and we are very
busy and that sort of thing. We couldn't put on
weight there.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
So there you go in this text to sees guys.
My issue with this fat shaming is is it okay
for kids to start saying that to others at school
or home? Don't we discourage this and tell them to
be kind? So why is it okay just because it's
in a jingle? We feel like people like the tune
of you put more offensive stuff in it. It is
the tune the person we like or what has been said.

(01:20:40):
You can't have two rules. What are we saying to
the younger ones watching? Just don't understand you giving fat
shaming airtime?

Speaker 20 (01:20:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Well, That's interesting because can you expect to live a
life where people don't say things that are true? So
if you have got so fat that you can't fit
in the car seat, then can you live a life
can you expect people never to say that? If things
are true? So, if you're overweight and someone says it,
then how can you offend it?

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
If it's true? Right? And if it's not true, then
it's stupid. So how can you be offended?

Speaker 11 (01:21:14):
Right?

Speaker 14 (01:21:14):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
So can we go around in life expecting people not
to say things to us that are true?

Speaker 3 (01:21:19):
Eighty is the number to call Nicole? How are you
this afternoon?

Speaker 12 (01:21:26):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:21:26):
Hello, Hi guys?

Speaker 20 (01:21:27):
Tell you guys?

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
Yeah, very good. And what's your view about the complaints
and fat shaming in general?

Speaker 20 (01:21:33):
Well, I first heard this ad on the radio. It
was a few months ago, and I was hoping that
it would finally make it to the TV because I
absolutely loved it. And yeah, I mean she's in a suit,
She's in a sumo suit, so there is you know,
bringing humor definitely.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
To the ad.

Speaker 20 (01:21:54):
And yeah, there's also a part in the in the
ads that talks about the cops are after you, and
it doesn't ever warrant.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Yeah, the cops are looking at the cops are looking
out for it. There's actually been a whole the texts
that have come through Nicole complaining about that line and
saying that's the real problem because it is normalizing car theft,
so people will find their thing to be offended by.
And there's there's a lot of content of that ad,
so you know, there's a lot of things that people
could potentially have a problem with one.

Speaker 20 (01:22:25):
But you know, I think it's like connact and it's
a real pee wee jingle and you know, it's like
the as a Party of Mary Clubs, a four year song,
Like it's awesome. I think it should win the Ad
of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
Yeah, well it's been. It's been surely one of the
most successful ads in recent times. Definitely, because it's catchy,
it gets into your head, makes people are talking about it.
We've just been talking about on the radio for half
an hour and they're not paying for this, so it's
definitely successful.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
Are we just losing our sense of humor a little bit?
Do you think, Nicole?

Speaker 2 (01:23:00):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (01:23:01):
Yeah, I mean, looks people are going to have opinions
on a whole lot of things. But me personally, it's brilliant,
really good ad and up to the people that figured
it all out and put it all together and tended
us such a great job.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Yeah on them, Well, thank you so much for you call.
But Tyler, you say, are we losing our sense of humour?
But the ASA ruled that that was fine?

Speaker 14 (01:23:23):
What was there?

Speaker 4 (01:23:23):
You've got their ruling on in front of you. What
do they say about that line?

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Their exact quote was, does not reach the threshold to
breach the relevant Advertising Standards Authority codes, and therefore we
will not take any further action. So yeah, maybe they
do have a sense of humor.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Yeah, Matt, you're ugly like a dog's ass. Don't be
offended though, it's just true facts. Cheers Sean. Yeah, well
I'm just trying to say if I'm offended by that. No, No, yeah,
exactly not there we go, not offended at all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
Oh Light, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number
to call. There's a heck of a lot of ticks
that have just come through so fat shaming. Do we
take it a little bit too far that that is
somehow taboo that you cannot talk about people's weight. But
it seems to be okay to hassle people who are tall,
hassele people that are skinny. And this is in a jovial,
banterish way, but love to you your thoughts on O e
one hundred and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 2 (01:24:13):
Yeah, and we've got a text that's just come through
here that will read out someone that works in a
weight loss clinic that is not happy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
Twelve past three. It is a quarter past three, and
we're talking about fat shaming. A couple of complaints to
the ASA about the Tina fum Turner's car ad. The
line that they got so offended by is you got
so fat the seats don't fit. The ASA thankfully said,
nothing to see here, But we're talking about fat shaming
in general. Wyatt's taboo when other you know, other banter

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towards the way people look seem to be okay.

Speaker 2 (01:24:47):
But is that I mean, that's not even fat shaming though,
it's just saying a fact, right if you got so fat,
And obviously in the ads, she's wearing a summu inflatable suit,
so that's not But the thing is, you know, if
you have got so fat that you can't fit in
a car seat, then isn't that just fat?

Speaker 4 (01:25:04):
It's just fact.

Speaker 2 (01:25:05):
How can you be offended by something that is true?
This textas says fat people are people. You are such
a holes. I've censored that.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
Oh that wasn't what this ptext has said.

Speaker 2 (01:25:14):
They didn't say a holes. I have sensed that you
are such a holes. It's not funny. It's not a choice.
People are o beaste because of health issues. If you
are fat, it's not my fault. That's a telling sentence.
If you are fat, it's not my fault.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
It's like a Freudian slip. But you know, bless you,
you be you, you do you. But you guys laugh
about it? What I what I said? You were an idiot? Oh?
I think they meant to say if I said you
were an idiot, would you like that? No? So don't
call me fat? You are idiot?

Speaker 19 (01:25:46):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:25:46):
Okay, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:25:48):
But I didn't call you fat.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
I don't even know anything about you apart from these
forty odd words you've said through.

Speaker 3 (01:25:53):
And sometimes I am an idiot. I didn't take offense
by It's it's reality.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
Sometimes, yes, sometimes you're an idiot. I'd like to see
you not be an idiot once.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Now this also reminded me of a great scene in
The Simpsons. Here is a little bit of that.

Speaker 15 (01:26:06):
Everyone needs to dry a vehicle, even the very tall
This was the largest auto that I could afford. I
therefore we made the subject of fun.

Speaker 20 (01:26:17):
I guess, So.

Speaker 15 (01:26:20):
Would you like it if I laughed at your misfortune?

Speaker 12 (01:26:24):
Huh?

Speaker 5 (01:26:25):
Maybe we should find out.

Speaker 4 (01:26:29):
No march.

Speaker 26 (01:26:33):
Hey, everybody, look at this. It's that boy who laughs
at everyone. Let's laugh at him. Wave to the people
who them.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
Classic Simpsons, but very very funny.

Speaker 2 (01:26:59):
Yeah, but I mean that's that's the other side of it. Say,
there are things that are true and people put you
can't speak to live in a world where people aren't
aren't going to put point out things that are true. Right,
but if you're if you're going around putting out other
people's foibles, you better be able.

Speaker 4 (01:27:11):
To take it back yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:27:13):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:27:13):
If you if you only laugh at other people, then
you better be able to deal with them laughing at you.

Speaker 11 (01:27:19):
Do.

Speaker 2 (01:27:19):
I read this sticks out. I work for a weight clinic.
Many of these people have low confidence in themselves. I
will always defend these wonderful people. They don't need unkind comments.
Yeah fair enough, yeah, yeah, But I would say that
wasn't really unkind comments in that ad. It's just it's
just just an observation, and it's you know, if you
have got two fat foot in your car seat, and
that's just the truth, isn't it exactly?

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Greg.
What's your take on this?

Speaker 30 (01:27:46):
You're only upsetting the overseens that of I think this
afternoon fellows.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
We do that a bit.

Speaker 22 (01:27:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 30 (01:27:51):
The actor in that air got in a sumo suit, right, Okay, Well,
and the Japanese culcious snow is revered and worshiped for
a start, if you want to put that spin on it. Yeah,
they revere and worship the sum But just as on
the side, if you think about the likes of Marie

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and PACIFICA health advocates with you know, obese people and
the diabetes and how they're more susceptible to that sort
of thing than Paqi harp to teach you, which is
probably right. The you know, the the age span and
all that sort of things that a little different. I
don't disagree with that, But now I have to think
about the ASP adverts. What do you see there?

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
I watch too much linear TV.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
What one's well, I mean, I assume you're talking about
the couple, the young couple that are buying a house,
and the the man is quite a large gentleman and
the woman is quite a small lady.

Speaker 30 (01:28:52):
Okay, well you go. I mean, he is a very
large obefe man. But there is the a SB saying, hey,
this is fine, this is okay, nothing wrong here. But
then you go to the flip side of those who
are saying, you know, Marian pacifica more issues will obesently
in all that sort of stuff. And I guess they

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potentially do. It's just the way that the genetically get it.
But do you not see some hypocrisy there?

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Yeah, I guess it a sort of a tough line
to run where if you are obese, then you are
ruled out from being on the television.

Speaker 16 (01:29:25):
Though I'm not.

Speaker 30 (01:29:27):
I'm not coming from that angle. I'm not complaining about it.
I'm just saying there's a standard of a bank telling
us that's fine, that individual's fine, are okay, But then
you've got the actor himself as a huge obese gentleman,
isn't it. We've probably got a lot of those factors
going on in his life. So I just don't I
just don't get the hypocrisy of some of the advertising.

Speaker 2 (01:29:49):
Mere yeah, well thank you's Greek. Maybe you could complain
to the ASA.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Yeah, but just from a health point of view when
I and I'm still a lot larger than I should be,
and certainly i've been bigger than what I am right now.
When people I love came to me and said your
weight is a problem. In fact, they are a bit
harsher than that, and said you're a f that buggy.
You need to do something about it. I did not
get offended by that. I actually took that and say, hey,

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I need to get healthy because this is not good
for me.

Speaker 4 (01:30:17):
Yeah. I mean what if you weren't capable of that, right, Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
And that's yeah, And a lot of people would be
in that situation and that's different. But for me, I could,
I could do something about it to get to get healthier.
But it came from when people said that to me.
That came from a place of love, is what I'm saying,
because they were concerned about my health. But can you
get your views on this? So eight hundred eighty ten
eighty we'll better play some messages. But back very shortly.
It is twenty one past three.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Matd Heathen Tyler Adams afternoons call oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty on News Talk ZB, Very.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Good afternoon to you. We're talking about the complaints to
the Tina from Turner's ad about fat shaming. She jumps
into a sumo suit and the line in the air
is you got so fat the seats don't fit. Couple
of a handful of people complained to the ASA that
the ASAC said nothing to see here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:08):
Is there a difference between body shaming for things like
big nose, buck teeth, big ears versus fat shaming, being dirty,
having yellow teeth.

Speaker 4 (01:31:16):
Coffee teeth tell you a lot of people get Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
I mean if someone's got yellow teeth from smoking and
you know, remember people you just to have those yellow
fingers from smoking. I mean, if you're shaming someone for that,
you might be helping them out. Marty, welcome to the show.
You're a big person.

Speaker 11 (01:31:34):
Yeah, yeah, I'm a big guy. You know, I'm not little.

Speaker 32 (01:31:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:31:38):
Now I've lost weight heaps of times, like you know,
and put it back on. Yeah, I think a lot
of it. Yeah, there might be some health issues and
stuff that stop people from doing something. But I think
a lot of it's just the food and stuff, you know.
I think it's the choice of food you're smashing. Yeah, yeah,
you can't complain that you're big and then go home

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and have six.

Speaker 4 (01:32:03):
Marty?

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Do you do people comment on your weight? And when
they do, how does that make you feel?

Speaker 22 (01:32:10):
Well?

Speaker 11 (01:32:10):
Sometimes? You know, like, but it is what it is,
you know, it's not it's not called self esteem because
somebody else is in control of it, you know, like
you think about yourself however you do. I think it's
a I think it's a good sign thing.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:32:25):
And and so you don't, you don't you don't have
a problem at all with the the the ad.

Speaker 11 (01:32:30):
No, no, it's all good man, Like you know, I
mean the person clearly isn't that big, you know. And
if she's saying, you know, if you got too big
to fit in the card ship, how do you get
that big?

Speaker 4 (01:32:43):
It's quite big?

Speaker 3 (01:32:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
Have you have you ever got so big that you
haven't been able to fit in the car seat? Maney?

Speaker 6 (01:32:49):
No?

Speaker 11 (01:32:49):
No way?

Speaker 3 (01:32:52):
Yeah, yeah, but got on you with that philosophy. Then
you're quite right, you know. Self esteem it's it's what
you think about yourself that matters, and if you know,
it's easy to easier said than done. But if you outside,
opinions are just external and what you think about yourself
is what matters. But when you did lose weight, Mardy,
was that something that was a bit of a mission

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at that time to try and drop that weight or.

Speaker 11 (01:33:16):
It was more consistency man like? Yeah, like, being kind
of strict on yourself can be hard, and which is
the reason I'll put it back on you know. Yeah,
I was inconsistent. I was consistent for a month or two,
seeing the drop, felt the health benefits, and yeah, just

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got lazy again, I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Well, thanks so much for you call, Marty. I really
appreciate your insight into this. There is a differences of
texting between fan friends, people who care for you saying
you're a bit tubs and random people, random people randomly
commenting on it.

Speaker 14 (01:33:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:33:51):
Sorry, this text doesn't quite make sense, but I get
what they're saying.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
Get in your lane, Matt, No, Yeah, I mean absolutely.
I mean, if someone's.

Speaker 4 (01:33:58):
Overweight and you're worried about their health and you and
you want to help them, a better way to approach it,
obviously would be to go up and say, hey, I'm
worried about your health, and you know, is there anything
I can do to help out? And I think that
that you probably need to improve your diet would be
better than yelling chow down wide load at them or something.
You know what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:16):
Maybe you worked a little bit for me when I
was chunky and still am a little bit chunky. This
takes a seat if the person can't fix the thing
within the next few minutes or fix it easily, I
don't think it's something we should talk to people about.
It is just cruel. It's like saying that I am
awful because I am so short. I'm just suret I
can't change it. In a few texts to that regard.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Yeah, but I guess I push back that and say
if yeah, absolutely those people that say that kind of
stuff that doesn't make them good people. But you know,
in life, you can't expect people not to say things
that are real. And you know, as someone texted through
to overweight, people not realize that everyone can see that
they're overright. So even if they're not saying it, they're

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thinking it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:59):
That's quite I don't know about that pole walk around
feeling like they're constantly being judged. It's not necessarily great
for either.

Speaker 3 (01:35:04):
No, Tim, you're yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:35:09):
Mate, how's it going?

Speaker 4 (01:35:11):
Very good?

Speaker 21 (01:35:14):
I'm offended by those that are offended. So can they
stop it? Because people just get offended about everything. It's
just getting ridiculous. Let's have a bit of fun and
enjoy life and don't take ourselves so seriously.

Speaker 4 (01:35:26):
Good on your Tim.

Speaker 2 (01:35:27):
I think a lot of people, judging by the text
machine would be agree with you one hundred percent. Yeah,
But and I would push back and say that that
that and say that that air isn't even fat shaming.
It's just saying that some people, you know, you might
get so fat you can't fit in the cassie.

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
Just a reality sometimes.

Speaker 4 (01:35:44):
Grant, welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:35:46):
Good, Let you do it very good?

Speaker 14 (01:35:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:35:51):
Look, I think it's kind of funny people don't understand
the difference between comedy and bullying, because I mean, you
look at that air.

Speaker 14 (01:35:59):
There's just there's just playing comedy.

Speaker 32 (01:36:01):
That's a good laugh.

Speaker 24 (01:36:02):
I'm on a tubby lad, you know, and if someone
that works called me fat for you, I'm a bit
of a beat for that. But you're talking about someone
just just singing a song and yeah, exactly, I think
people need to just chill out of that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:22):
Yeah, good on you, Grant. Yeah, and thank you so
much for your call. Boy.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27):
There's so much communication coming in on this, but we're
running out of time to deal with it.

Speaker 3 (01:36:31):
Yeah, thank you very much to everybody who called antext
on that great discussion. But the headlines are coming up
and then New Zealander of the Week it is bang
on up us three.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
Jeez, you can't even hardly find that cheer.

Speaker 16 (01:36:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
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we honor a newsmaker who has had an outsized effect
on our great and beautiful nation over the previous seven days.
As always, there will be three nominees but only one winner.
And remember, like the Time magazine Person of the Year,
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Last month, painters were called back to a job in
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every box, but what they found was two hundred post
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are people in this country that will never be happy
and they need to be shamed crazy, punishing unnamed, overly
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the very real issue of chronic dissatisfaction syndrome that is
sweeping this increasingly winging, ungrateful nation. You know who you are,
and you are nominated for the New Zealand of the Week.

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CDs is real and needs to be called out wherever
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Speaker 2 (01:39:50):
But there can be only one New Zealand of the Week, okay,
and the winner gets the holy crap one of them
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or pretending to be sick to get out of doing
anything other than shoving junk food into their lazy, fat faces.
These This one's just finished an epic two hundred and

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Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
Over plains, and in the marden in the rain.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
The Williams family kept rolling along Topel Shermulker's dad Andrew
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Nine and Elliot six for walking.

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Speaker 4 (01:40:52):
I repeat, Tom Phillips was not involved, No.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Congratulations, give him a taste of kereweed. God bless and
god speed. The Williams family.

Speaker 3 (01:41:10):
Matt Tyler very very well deserved this weekend as it
always is. And we got in touch with the Williams family,
Courtney the mum, and she said that they were moving
farm Today's slash house. Unfortunately they couldn't never chat with us,
but they said they are absolutely honored to be this
week's New Zealander off the week.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
It is phenomenal that you've got a six year old
walking the far incredible phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (01:41:34):
Yeah brave.

Speaker 4 (01:41:36):
How hard is it to get a thirteen year old
as well? They've got a thirteen year old there to
do anything these days and.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
There walked nearly three thousand kilometers, so pitty we couldn't
get them on for.

Speaker 3 (01:41:45):
A chat yep, they are the best of us right.
Coming up very shortly, we're going to catch up with
Alex Powell, one of our sports reporters here at News
Talk z B. The Grand Prix IF one coming up
over the weekend. Exciting Liam Lawson back in the running,
got his confidence back, maybe Groan Pyron, not Prie. So
we're going to catch up with Alex very shortly. It

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is three two.

Speaker 1 (01:42:09):
Four, the issues that affect you and a bit of
fun along the way. Matt Heath and Tyler Adams afternoons
excuse talks.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
It'd be well back to a more traditional track this
weekend and racing bulls need to show they can remain competitive.
New Zealand driver Liam Lawson picked up his first points
of the Formula One season last weekend with an eighth
place finish at Monaco. However, unlike the Spanish Grand Prix,
that is on a circus, that circuit that is fast
with some high speed corners. It's going to be exciting

(01:42:40):
to chat more about this. We're joined by Alex Powell.
New Zealand Herald sports journalists. Get a Alex, and guys
hope you as well very well.

Speaker 4 (01:42:48):
Thanks do you say Grand Prix or Grand Prix because
Tylus is Grand Prix.

Speaker 27 (01:42:53):
Yeah, Tyler's wrong, that's the christ jests coming out of me.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
I stand by what I said, Alex. You know it's
a grand thing. It's a Grand Prix. But I hear
what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (01:43:00):
Oh you just think it's grand. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
How much of a confidence boost do you think it
was for Liam getting some points at Monaco, Alex?

Speaker 27 (01:43:07):
I mean I think that's two parts in that one.
Obviously it's going to be a huge boost for him
to actually have some points and get a bit of
breathing room from Red Bull. But from what he's been
saying all season, I mean, since it's moved back to
racing balls, his confidence as it hasn't actually been that damage.
The things that have just been going against him are
the ones that have been holding him back.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
Does the Spanish Grand Prix suit the racing bulls or
a lamb like going forward? Because he had so much
bad luck and then he's got some points and he
needs some more luck and some more points. So is
this a good place for him to be going next?

Speaker 27 (01:43:42):
It's a place he knows well. I mean Spain and
Barcelona in particular is a track where a lot of
the cars used to do their pre season testing. It's
a regular feature on the Formula two circuit, so it
is a track he does know well. It's I don't
think of some of my head. He's actually had a
podium finished and F two or F three at Barcelona,
but all the ingredients are there for him to do well,
given that we've seen what happens when it all goes

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his way.

Speaker 4 (01:44:04):
Is there any opportunities for passing in Spain.

Speaker 27 (01:44:09):
A lot more than Monaco? But yes, and in short
there are a couple of dress. It is quite a
fast circuit, which means if you do get your pet
strategy right, you can definitely undercut drivers who pit after you.
So I wouldn't really have the worries that we had
with Monaco or a Miller before that.

Speaker 2 (01:44:26):
We're talking about Alex Power, New Zealand, Alex Powell, New
Zealand Herald sports journalist and man that I punished late
into the night whenever I'm watching you F one because
I know he'll be up so I pepper him.

Speaker 4 (01:44:36):
Yeah, it's often just me and watching and I apologize
on the half of it.

Speaker 12 (01:44:42):
I love it.

Speaker 27 (01:44:42):
A fifteen year old me and you that Matt Heath
would be texting him till in the morning.

Speaker 2 (01:44:48):
So with racing balls, you know, with this, with had Jail,
with this teammate looking so good as moving back up
to Red Bull looking a long way away at the
moment for them, I mean, that's.

Speaker 27 (01:44:58):
The million dollar question moment. If you had to make
a call right now, you'd probably say had Jar's the guy. However,
so much of what happens in Formula one is recency bias,
and we know that the season will finish on a
lot of tracks that Liam not only has driven on
but has done well on. So you've got plays like
Austin and Brazil. We got points last year, plays like
Abby Dabi where he's one and f two. So if
he can get the right results at the right time,

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there's no reason why they shouldn't look at him. However,
you do raise the very significant point that no one
has ever gone down to racing balls and then back
up to Red Bull. But hey, let's not also forget
that no one had ever climbed everys until the key
We did it either, right, So.

Speaker 32 (01:45:32):
Let's just hold onto that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
I nically said, and we talked to the fifty third
person to climb Everest yesterday fifty third New Zealand even
to do it. So if Liam started beating head Yer,
maybe he doesn't go back up to Red Bull. But
does he get will he be able to stay in
Racing Balls next year potentially, or is this somewhere else.

Speaker 12 (01:45:48):
He could go.

Speaker 27 (01:45:50):
I think he'd want to stay at Racing Balls and
be in the Red Bull family for now. I mean,
for everything I've spoken about, he's very loyal to Red Bull.
He knows that he wouldn't be where he is without
the face Red Bull showing them in the finance as
they put behind him. But if it gets to a
point where it was with someone like Pierre Gasli who
once he moved back down to the second team and
the door was just shut from you do have to
look elsewhere. And I think a lot of the other

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team principles know how good limb as you remember Williams
came in from last year, but Red Bull said no
howd he wanted to sign him but they couldn't because
of how his Red Bull contract worked. So if he
keeps doing the things they're doing and can just stay
on the grid somewhere, someone will want to keep him
on longer term, could.

Speaker 2 (01:46:27):
Have been quite good to go to Williams Can there
could have been potentially a better option for him this
Texas is do you think this is fair? Alex funny
that Liam's greatest victory to date is from driving slowly?

Speaker 4 (01:46:38):
Do you think that's fear?

Speaker 27 (01:46:40):
The irony is not lost to me?

Speaker 12 (01:46:42):
Wrote that in the week.

Speaker 27 (01:46:44):
So a lot of the criticism from you know, parts
of Mexico and Japan and Australia who all had drivers
lose out to Lim was they started calling him slow
soon after he struggled early on. So to have him
drive slowly and actually benefit from it was I think
just a bit of poetic justice.

Speaker 2 (01:46:57):
And so I whide to assume because a lot of
New Zealanders and McLaren fans, you know, we love Liam
Lawson and we've jumped on board with Red Bill in
racing bills because of Liam Lawson. But a lot of
keywis because of the street with Bruce and McLaren fans
like me, And what's happening with this McLaren front wing situation.
Will these changes affect their their dominance so far this season?

Speaker 27 (01:47:18):
Well, I'd like to point out it's not just McLaren.
It's everyone who is having their wings having to comply
with new regulations. Will that affect McLaren I dynam remember
back to last year where they's a couple of teams
protested McLaren's rear wings and they had to change from
Singapore onwards and they still comfortably won that driver's title
or so the constructor's title from Ferrari. So whether or
not it will actually hold McLaren back, given that everyone

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else has to go through it is still to be
saying we probably won't know until qualifying. But then you
look at a team like Ferrari, who'd have thought the
whole season has been they have been really conservative with
their front wings. So is that a chance for them
to maybe overtake a couple of teams here? It's just
going to be a real wait and see.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Yeah, well waiting and seeing seven hours and forty four
minutes and eleven seconds till practice one in Spain twenty five.
So I'm excited, and yeah, I'll be up texting you constantly,
Alex with all my questions and opinions.

Speaker 27 (01:48:09):
Yeah, just do it, like maybe half an hour after
everything's finished.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
No promises, Alex, No promises, no dice mate, Very good
to catch up, enjoy the race and we'll work chet
again next week. That is Alex Bell, New Zealand Herald Sports,
a journalist. That is going to be a fascinating race.
And like we said, Liam has got hopefully his confidence back,
and it certainly was a good result for him, but
one out of the season after some tough previous races.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
So yeah, well, I mean as Alex said, though, I
think Liam Lawson's one of those guys that I don't
know if he ever lost his confidence. He had a
lot of bad luck and he might have felt like
he was cursed, but I think he's always believed in himself.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
Yeah, and I think that'll pay off over time.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Right, we're going to play some messages, but back very shortly.
It is fourteen to four. You're listening to Matt and Tyler.
Very good afternoon to you.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
The big stories, the big issues, the big trends and
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Speaker 3 (01:49:12):
Very good afternoon. Due, it is eleven to four and
I hate to bring back this topic, but a text
has just come through and it is a very fair point.
So it was about fat shaming that we were talking
about a little bit earlier this hour, and the textas
here is, guys all this chat about fat shaming. Didn't
my Hosking fat shame Matt a few months ago? And
uh yeah I think he did?

Speaker 14 (01:49:33):
Did he?

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
Wow, here's a little bit of what happened. If you
looked like him, If you look like him, why would
you take your top off?

Speaker 14 (01:49:40):
Have you seen him?

Speaker 4 (01:49:42):
He's in shocking shape, in shape?

Speaker 12 (01:49:45):
I cannot say why not? Here's the deal.

Speaker 34 (01:49:49):
I just got to say, you're you're rinsing the PM
for not not showing agency. Where's where's where's the where's
the agency shown here? Where's where's the where's the is
he in Jason's office? What's the what's the timeline?

Speaker 9 (01:50:06):
What is the process currently underway?

Speaker 12 (01:50:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:50:08):
No, I can't answer that. To be fair today, grievances
go both ways. Just have to listen to this. Oh
I'm just looking over the rubbishman here and Hosking. Doesn't
it be the rubbish won when he leaves? Because it's
too let's get that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
We just started listening to my Hosking breakfast from months ago. Look,
look that was around the issue when I spiled a
coffee into the console here in the studio, the my
Costing memorial studio, and I made the heroic move of
whipping my shirt off to try and protect the gear
because I love the work of the great tech people

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here at ZB do, so I whipped my shirt off
to stop the coffee getting into the electronics.

Speaker 4 (01:50:49):
Right, And that was on video because everything we do
is filmed. And then that was I don't know, for
some reason posted on social media.

Speaker 2 (01:50:57):
Can't get my costing and maybe I was at the
higher end of my yo yoing weight cycle. But I
would actually just say that those cameras when they zoom
in sort of they bring things together the dips the
field gets a bit out of out of whack, and
I locked it a little bit larger than I was
at the time. But I wasn't offended by that out

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of shape.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
We all know that the camera adds ten pounds and
three cameras on you, so that's thirty pound.

Speaker 2 (01:51:23):
I wasn't offended at all by that. Did I start
going to the gym constantly? Did I start putting my
fingers down my throat after eating meals?

Speaker 3 (01:51:33):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33):
Did you, yes, did I spiral into a deep depression
and get an unhealthy relationship with the gym. Yes, but
was I offended?

Speaker 15 (01:51:42):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
No, those go by the way.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
You've got to say, though, I'm like, if I whip
my shirt off now, I think that it would cause
a bit of a sensation. I mean, I've accused Darcy
Watergrave of having a twelve pack. He's got a great
rocking boy. But I'm getting close. I reckon, I've got
about three pack at the moment. You're getting very close.
Come hitting up to a six pretty soon. I'll be
going pretty hard at the gym. Actually, you certainly have.
And as we speaking of fitness, fitness things, I'm running

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this thing called the Pillar to Poe. This is fantastic
thing that's happening on Saturday, the seventh of June in
Topor And basically it's a seven and a half k
run relay situation. You set yourself up at two miles
at the bar and then you over six hours, it's
how many times you can do the seven and a
half k circuit from Pillar to Poe. And you know,
I'm in a team of three, so we're just going

(01:52:33):
to be running circling. Going back to the bar running
and circling. It's it's a very very cool events in
its first year. So if you have any way of
being in Topor, or if you are in Topau on Saturday,
the seventh of June, I reckon, I reckon, get a monk,
so I'll be down there. And my team's called the
Hagland Hagland's Deformities. Okay, I'll have just my acully's heel

(01:52:56):
has pulled a little bone out of the back of
my heel from over exertion, and that's called Haglind's deformity.
So that's sort of named my team after And it's
kind of one of those things that's self depreciating things.
So if our times aren't so good, then we can
blame it on the the deformity that will be on
our seets, on our shirts. But the thing is you
can walk it, you can run it. It's a social thing.
You can go as fast as you want, as slow

(01:53:16):
as one. It's just how many rotations piliticpoe you can
do in six hours.

Speaker 4 (01:53:20):
I reckon, I reckon. It's really cool, So I've signed
up for it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:22):
Pilpo fantastic events. If you want to go check it out.
You can go to pillar two po so that's TPOU
dot com. And how good is laketopor beautiful beautiful spot right?
That is almost US four today. Now a story we
didn't get to and this is a fantastic story for
the good people of Timaru. So the Timuru District Council

(01:53:44):
took out the win for the best tasting tap water
in New Zealand in twenty twenty five. There were four
contenders in this year's EXOM National Water Taste Test competition
and that included Hey, funnily enough, topor Toporul District Council
are in there, why marked Edi District Council in Canterbury
and last year's champion of Rotorua Lakes Council. So all

(01:54:07):
the main water supplies and you zan, we're invited to
compete in the competition and submit a sample to the
Water Industry Operations Group. I had no idea this contest existed,
but I liking it. But judging was based on color.
That's important. Complete.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
So the water, the more sea through the water is
kind of thing. So the clear clarity of it. So
if it's abit brown, that's no good or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:54:27):
Well, here are the parameters, so completely translucent without any
white or brown tones. And then clarity, which is kind
of the same thing. Is that that you think so
crystal clear and not cloudy? Odor a nice scent and
taste and taste is a big thing pleasing to the pellette.
I don't know if a nice scent. Does water have
a smell?

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
The water doesn't smell, does it? I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:54:48):
Doesn't water any smell if it's going off. Yeah, well,
I'm gonna guess if it's got some nice minerals in
it or something. Well you said before actually that you
don't drink water.

Speaker 3 (01:54:55):
You hate it unless it's got you know, a little
bit of sweetener in it, but a raspberry cordy or
in that case, So the.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
Water is plain, it's a plane drink. You want flavor
in it. So I won't drink the water, no, Yeah,
but I will drink any thing. I will drink stuff
with water in it, and I'll eat food with water
in it. But I will not just drink a glass
of water. It's too boring.

Speaker 3 (01:55:15):
So congratulations to tomrou for having the best tap water
in the country. And when you think of Tomorreau, I
think some people will think of this song. Who's this
band again? Don you got used to hang around with
these guys at one point, didn't you?

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
Whoever, they are pretty good and what a way to
end New Zealand music months For the key we band
crank it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Thank you very much for today. We'll do it all
again next week.

Speaker 4 (01:55:36):
Check out my guitar.

Speaker 5 (01:55:37):
Solough can live in this town thing?

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
Good Bye.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
Sense lovely, how can I Be Happy?

Speaker 12 (01:55:59):
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Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
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