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With ANTYLA Olympic champion, Hamish Kurr has had another huge year.
In September, he claimed high jump gold at the World
Athletics Championships. Kurz Leap not only secured the world title,
bar also equaled his own record, confirming him as world champion,
World leader, Diamond League Champion and history maker. Is the
first KEYWI to win a high jump world title. He
added those wins to his titles at the Olympic Games
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and the Commonwealth Games. Of course, Hamish Kurr, Welcome to
our Christmas series of catchups with kick Ass Kiwis.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
How are you hey, Thanks, heavy boys, I'm great. How
are you guys? Going?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Very good? Thanks and thank you for talking to us. Now, Hamosh,
whenever I watch you jump, I have the same thought
and look, you're the best in the world at something
that every single person attempts at some point, does that
ever cross your mind?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Well, it's funny you say that. I consider it probably
slightly more on the niche side of sport. But you
definitely do have a point. I mean I do remember
very vividly at primary school everyone having a go yeah,
and everyone kind of wanting to try the high jump
but at least one time in their life. Yeah, So
I suppose I'm just kind of the primary school kid
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who just kept on going and never really stopped. Right.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, it's only niche because only some people are good
at it. If you are good at it, then you
keep going. And you look, you were very good at it,
so you kept going. But it's not a sport. It's
not a sport that you know, someone had to have
a lot of gear to get into, someone had to
have a lot of money behind them. Everyone tried it,
and you're the best and you're a ki with so.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
That is quite something here you go. Yeah, that's the
great equalizer out there exactly.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Mate. Hey, So looking back at this year, if you
had to pick one moment that stood out for you
the most, what would it be?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Oh? I mean, look, world chance is a hard one
to go past. I think, you know, probably probably saying
that I am most proud of and and kind of
most sort of happy and satisfied with so to speakers,
the fact that last year was just so much energy
and coming back from the Olympics and just kind of
giving myself the time to celebrate and and just sit
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with it and enjoy it and and really kind of
spend the time sitting in that in that space, and
then having to get down on the horse the next year,
and you know, it wasn't easy. There was There was
definitely times where I was sort of questioning whether I
wanted to go again, and and it was quite challenging.
But to kind of get to the end of the
season and make a real kind of you know, considered
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effort to to try and and and really feel like
I wanted to commit, and then to be able to
get the result that I did at World Champs was
was very very satisfying, what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And then the training is intense. So how does that look?
How much of is gym work and how much of
its fitness and how much is it just repeatedly jumping.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Uh, well, not a lot of fitness, which is which
is good. A lot more gym works. So, I mean
we we do We're in the gym about three times
a week, and then I jump twice a week, and
then I do like a couple of running sessions on
top of that as well, So we do we do
about six days a week of training. There's probably about
eight sessions and that's so a couple of double days.
But yeah, it's it's it's pretty varied. You know, there's
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a lot of kind of technical stuff that we need
to we need to cover off, but then also a
lot of just trying to get as strong and as
powerful as possible. So every day is slight difference and
and yeah, it's it's it's it's sort of requires a
lot of thinking, mainly from my team, not so much
from me, but but you know, at times times there
are a lot of a lot of sort of technical
things that we're trying to achieve. So yeah, it's it's
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it's always always interesting at the track, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
A lot of squats. Squat's a big.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Part of it. Yeah, big part squats. Actually, I actually
did it a little little squat PB this morning in
the gym, which I was pretty heavy. Yeah, squatting constantly.
What was your peb Well, I did a quarter squad.
I did three reps, so three hundred.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Kgsly it's a big it's a big league day.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Yeah, it's a yeah. The leagus the leagues were struggling.
The back was probably struggling a wee bit more, to
be honest, kind of felt like I was compacted a
wee But but that's that's just what we do, right.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
What about the mental side of it, because you know,
high jump is a you know, it's a very Yeah,
the mental game is obviously clear, and you've got quite
a famous routine before you do your jump. You know,
how much is how much of that is it in
your prep?
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yeah? I mean it's you know, you go back to,
you know, trying high jump to primary school and everyone
sort of had to go. And I think a lot
of people echo the fact that it is a pretty
intimidating thing, having that bar, kind of knowing you have
to get over it, right, It's a pretty common feeling
a lot of people have.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's metaphorical and physical bar. You have to get over.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
It, oh exactly. And and it's also it's tough because
it doesn't matter how high you clear it. It only
counts for the clearance that the bar is set at.
So you know, it is a massive mind game, but
I think I love that, Like it kind of feels
like chess at times, because you know, when you're out
there and you're feeling good and you're sort of trying
to trying to obviously compete with all these other guys,
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it can become very technical around who is jumping well
early in the competition, but then who actually kind of
has the leads to continue on and sort of how
much me doing you do you use to get through
the competition, but then also to kind of save up
for the end. So I love it, but but you
had times it can be pretty draining, and I definitely
feel like I come home after quite a big season
and I'm quite thankful for the fact that I don't
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have to think about trying to get over the next
bar for at least a couple of months.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, during that off season. Genuine question, do you
get any pre sure you're at a party around mate's
family and party tricks the wrong word, but any preciative, say, heymus,
you know we've seen it on the tally, but we're
going to set up a wee bar here and we
want to see you jump over it. Do you get
any of that sort of precire.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Oh, look, it's the worst party truck because you can't.
Like I have been asked in the past and people go,
I surely can jump over me, and it's like, yeah,
give me, give me forty five minutes to warm up.
I'll go grab my shoes. We'll try and find a
level surface. Let me soaber up a burton. Yeah, it's
not the greatest thing in the world. It's not super transferable,
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but I have jumped over a couple of people in
the past down at the crack and I, yeah, can
confirm as possible.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, speaking of party trucks, I guess you would be
not that great at limbo. You know you're more of
an over a bar rather than an under a bar
kind of guy.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Yes. Yeah, I have tried limbo a couple of times.
I will spitch to going over the bar.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Ow good. So, looking back on on this year and
it's been a huge year for your haymish, where do
you think you made the biggest improvements in your jumps.
Obviously height's a big thing because that's key there, but
just in the general technique, I.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Think I think probably it's probably not like a technical change,
but I think it's just the belief I've gotten in
the program that we've built. So this year, I was
jumping kind of low two twenties about four months out
from World Champs, and in the past, you know, to
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be jumping that sort of height and then kind of
been able to turn it around to getting into the
two meters thirties and then up to two thirty six,
which is my personal best. It has taken a long time,
but this year, given the knowledge that we've got of
how I operate and what I need to actually achieve
in my training before being able to do that in competition,
we were able to turn it around really quickly. And
so I think I think for me that that ability
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to know that at any given moment, even if I'm
not jumping those heights in training and feeling like I'm
completely sending it at training. I suppose it's the clues
and the hunts within the training, which we're starting to
really understand really well as to what kind of shape
I'm in, is something that actually just makes me sleep
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way better at night. You know, in the past, it's
it's always that constant stress of you know, have I
have I been jumping well enough in training to the
intern around in a competition and do really well. And
I think that, you know, as we go through this process,
more and more I do know that, you know, there
are things in training I can do that really make
me jump well in competition. And I suppose I'm talking
about that from a from a perspective of in training,
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we don't actually jump that high often, and so I
suppose it's just me contending with the fact that that's
actually just normal and that's okay.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So you were well known before Tokyo. Then in New
Zealand after Tokyo you jumped up to every man, woman
and child knowing who Hamish Kurr was and what you
look like. How have you how have you dealt with that,
particularly when you come back into New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's yeah, I mean, I think for me, I am
very grateful for that. Like I remember idolizing a lot
of sporting heroes when I was growing up in Nogable
News Yonders, and I think, you know, for me, I
was just so motivated and so inspired by by what
we can't achieve, you know, this little country can achieve,
and what things we put put our country on the
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map force, so I think, yeah, to kind of add
high jump to that, it's it's not something I ever
thought i'd be able to do, but but yeah, I'm
just super grateful for that. So yeah, I love it
when when kids come up to me and, you know,
ask me for some high jump tips, I usually tell
them that there's my coach's job, not mine. But yeah,
it's it's it's very it's very very cool. I love it.
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But yeah, it can be funny as well, Like I
am suck what sucks, So it's sort of not easy
to hide at the best of times. If I'm feeling
like I'm not quite up for Yeah, you always got
to shot up with a with a good face on, right.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Speaking of fame, you are of course aware that you
are one of the biggest memes in the entire world.
With the Tokyo poll out, there's always sort of they're
not mentioning that you know you've put willfully pulled out
if people haven't seen it. You're running in and then you go, well,
I'm not going to make it, so you jump under
the bar. And it's used a lot for references to
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people doing certain things so that that's huge. I mean
that's billions and billions of views on that that particular meme.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I love it. It's so funny like seeing those pop up,
especially when like when I'll just be at home kind
of like scrolling Instagram whatever and I pop up. Never
quite used to it. It's funny these days, like people
will still seeing it to me, like, oh, look, you're
a meme. It's like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Sure I am.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
I made it. It's almost like how good people's current
meme status is, whether they actually know what's going on
or not.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, so true.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I think the reason it's such a successful meme is
because you look so confident as you're coming in and
you've got this great stride and you're you're looking so strong,
and then obviously you know you're pulling out because you're like,
I'm not going to do this jump. I'm not going
to make it, and then you just the way you
flop under it.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
The sweet dive.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
It's a beautiful to make it or not?
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, exactly mate. We are speaking to Olympic champion and
Hamish Curve part of our Christmas catch Up with Top People. Hamish,
thank you very much again for your time.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Now Hamous, right, what is your What does the Christmas
break summer break look like for you? Hamish?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
For me, often I will be training through so I'm
sort of in quite a big training bock at the moment.
But yeah, for me, it's about beach family, just enjoying
time spend with them. I don't get as much as
I'd love these days to spend time with family, So yeah,
that will be coming down to christ Church and spending
Christmas Day with me and hopefully sticking around for a
couple of days before they all go to the various
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corners of the country.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Nice great answer. What is on the menu on Christmas
Day or what do you hope.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Is on the menu? Well, I'm I'm semi responsible for
Christmas at dinner this year given that I am hosting,
which is a little bit nerve wracking, but we have
We've actually ordered my food bag Christmas, so that's just
gonna be coming.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Well played man, well played.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
So yeah, salm and I think there'll be a bit
of lamb and heaps of salads. So yeah, I make
sure I trained double for the week after. Just to
better off.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
We're talking to Olympic high jump champion Hamish cur real
tree or fake tree in the Kerr family.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Real tree at home, but these days I would be
going fake tree. Unfortunately I don't. I don't support the
baby baby pine tree industry too much, so yeah, fake.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Tree, that's great. What is the best present you've ever received?
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Best present? I think probably on brand with with what
I do day to day. In year six, I actually
got given my first of a peer of highjumps spies
from Mum and Dare. They went down to Dressmart and
I remember packing them out. I can't imagine why they
are at an outlet shop, you know, being such a
mainstream sport, but yeah, they were down there and so
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I picked them up and yeah, I just love them.
And obviously it's kind of set up my career.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Really pushing the gratitude thing on our show this year,
it's been a real theme. So we'll push that barrow
with you. What are you grateful for this year? Hamoush?
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, oh, good question. I mean I feel like I'm
grateful for so many things, but probably the big one
for me is I'm grateful for the people around me
who I can pick up the phone and have a
really good, kind of deep and meaningful chat with I
wouldn't say that my job is easy all the time,
and there are a lot of stressful times and pretty
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scary moments have to go through. So to know that
I can I can do those things and still front up,
but then also be able to pick up the phone
and feel like I'm not alone in those moments, especially
with my girlfriend and you know, my friends and my family. Yeah,
the other people I'm feeling really grateful for.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
That is beautiful. And finally, Hamish, what is your favorite
Christmas song?
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I would have to say that my guilty pleasure would
be Mistletoe by Justin Bieber.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
Ah. Yes, I'm just trying to think how that goes,
but that is a guilty pleasure.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Look, we'll have a listen.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
I'm gonna think, but it is a modern classic.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well there's good. We won't make you do that. We're
going to play it right now for your Hamish. But
it's been fantastic to catch up. Congratulations on another huge
year and all the beast for next year.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Yeah, thanks, thank for having me on. Guys, enjoy the
Christmas and holiday break and yeah, get into an.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah you two makee merry Christmas. That is great. New
Zealand the Olympic champion. Of course, Hamish cur you're listening
to News Talk ZB and here is his Christmas song.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
It's the most beautiful. Somebody plays further street, spreading so.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Much to you.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
I should be playing in the winter snow under the miss.
So I don't want to miss on the holiday, but
it can stop staring at your face. I should be
playing in the winter snow under the miss. Shy sh
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