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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Nigel Avery has spent almost fifty six years in sport,
from running, jumping, throwing as a kid in athletics to
almost making the nineteen ninety six Olympic Games in a
New Zealand bob sled team can you believe of course,
then going on to win five Commonwealth Games weightlifting, including
two goals, and competing in Olympic Games weightlifting as well.
He then went on to work in high performance management
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before taking on the role of Chef de Mission in
the New Zealand Olympic team in Paris, which, as we know,
was our most successful campaign ever. It really is a
pleasure to welcome Nigel Avery on for six and a song.
Hello Nigel, Nigel.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Hey you guys have it going? Let me on, Oh.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Pleasure, Thanks for being here. Yeah, we're delighted to talk
to you. You so accomplished yourself as an athlete, but
of course now you roll as Chef de mission. Can
we just go back a little bit to your weightlifting
where you achieved reals from me to success there? What
is it about weightlifting? That appeals.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Good question. I think it's it's really sort of a
goal orientated sport, like you have a chance to hit
PBS in almost every training session of particular as a
novice or a developing lifter. So it's just the sense
of achievement of hitting those personal bests with it and
squatting all the different exercises. But then I suppose on
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the competition day it's a really unique sport and that
you're attempting quite often something you've never ever listed or
attempted before. So it's a real kind of mind over
matter kind of thing. And it's like anything when you
set your goals and you achieved them, you know, the
sense of achievement is it's fantastic, and I was fortunate
enough to be able to do that on some on
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pretty big occasions.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah, it's really the reason I asked the question is
I find the sport fascinating. I love it. And of
course we've had some great lifters in this country, not
the least precious McKenzie of course, and then David LEETI recently.
But what we did a thing a few weeks back
when the Olympics were on, and we are what's your
favorite sport. And somebody said, and I quote, I love
watching the old fat baggers in the weightlifting, And that's
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the thing, the biomechanics of weightlifters. Yeah, like you can
have somebody like you that looks like you're chiseled out
of granite, but then you can have these huge and
they do look you know, they've got big motors. So
how does that work.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah, well, there's different weight classes, so it's a sport
for everybody, male or female. But then the big guys
the engine there at the front that kind of almost
act like a bit of a shock absorber in the
deep squad position where the belly is hitting the quads
and it's almost helping the drive up from the deep
squad position. As you say, biomechanically, it's kind of tricky
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because they've got the idea of you need to pull
the baron in a vertical straight line and it's got
to go around there the stomach. So yeah, there's pluses
and yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Interesting.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
So Nigel, you've been the shift the mission at the
latest Olympics. Do you have a a regular job.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, yeah, so I kind of help people succeed financially
in the world of trying to get them home loans
to buy to buy home. So I work with all
the banks and lots of first home buyers and it's
kind of It's interesting because in the shift of mission
roll the DUOC, we're trying to optimize, you know, the
athletic performance of our team members, the athletes, and I
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guess my day job and trying to optimize the chance
of them getting the loan they either need or want
to buy a home. It's quite quote rewarding in that sense.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It would be what's actually the job description for the
shift mission?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Yeah, I guess it's on the I guess the athletes champion.
I'm making sure that everything we do is for the athletes.
And that's quite easy really because that's that's what the
d C does on a day to day basis. They
are they are really for the athlete. But I I
guess I'm their advocate at games time, and I suppose
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also a game summons to make sure to maximize the
culture that we have and look at developing as well
as we can. And I think you've you've probably seen
that that that's going really really well. Of Dave Curry
and Robodell, my predecessors have done an amazing job to
to sort of get to the team to where it
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is now and it's it's a real joy to be
part of.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I can see that.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Hey, Nigel, where does the term come from? The title
chef the mission? Because I was a bit of an
air guy wrote down chief dimission, then he put down
chief embarrassed that up. So where does the where does
the chef that come from?
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I guess it's a French term. So chef is chief
and mission is the delegation or the organizations are hitting
of that. So int a bit of a French thing.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So yeah, now, Nigel, you touched on the culture. It
did really seem like there was this wonderful culture when
any athlete had been successful and they come back to
the village and there was all the athletes performing the
huck and it was just beautiful, beautiful moments. But I'm
guessing I'm not asking for intricate details here, but I'm
guessing there must have been occasions or in the past
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even where athletes don't get on. You've got very high
performing people with all sorts of things going on in
their lives. What is it you they go to if
there's a conflict between athletes.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
They could do. So we've got a large number of
ex olympians and the team in their athletic services. We've
got obviously part of our medical team as our sports
psyching and all that, So there's a number of people
that they could go through. But as far as I'm
aware or pretty much smooth sailing.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But with some of the athletes from other countries, I
think there was an Australian cricketer that might have been
accused of doing cocaine or trying to buy cocaine, and
that again that you know, these are young, fat people
at their prime. They do dumb stuff occasionally. Is your role?
Would you have to reprimand one of your athletes if
they did something? Is that you're wrong?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, we have to have some sort of discussion with it,
be sure. And really for me, that was I guess
the situation or a scenario that I was kind of dreading.
But because of that, you know, we spent a lot
of time with the flet's just sort of explaining of
what our culture and our values were and obviously there's
integrity and respect as two of our five pillars, and
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just to make sure they really understood that. That's kind
of what we expected of them, and you know, I'm
really happy to say that, you know, we didn't have
any any issues along those lines, not to say we won't,
because look, you know it's a large number of people.
There's two hundred athletes and about the same number of
support people, so it's quite a large representation of society
in general, and so you're going to get, you know,
potentially some of that. But you know, happily I can
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say that that we didn't. Parson, I'm aware anyway. Yeah,
so I think, yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
So what were some of your favorite or standout moments
in Paris?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Yeah, it's a hard question. The just so many. Obviously
Lisa Carrington, you know, what she did was extraordinary. With
Emma Twig, I would have loved to be in the
stadium when Hamish was jumping, because you know, that really
was pretty outstanding. And talking about athletics mates, you know,
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we just never thought them in a million years would
see it in New Zealander winning the mean high jump
at the Olympic Game. So it's awesome. But the things
that stuck out for me were Julian David in speak climbing. Right.
We watched himding him in his early days qualification and
he had he was going to hit the head with
the guy who was better than him, and he got
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there within Oh gosh, just such a fine margin. So
we were sort of jumping out down yelling and yes
he's got it. So it was kind of that surprise
unknown thing in the top eight for a person who
was targeting twenty twenty eight as where he wants to go.
Really well, it was pretty amazing. And then the last
metal we won Ali Williston and the final rat the Omnium,
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and so we watched her protect her position in the
points race. They had a really good job in that
one of the charm which one, but then maybe it
was the points race at the end, just coming through
and we were just yelling and screaming to see who
go over the line. That was pretty cool, but so many,
I mean Lydia, Yeah, it just goes on and on.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I know what a campaign. Hey, probably an unfair question
as well, but interested to get your thoughts. What do
you see when you're with these athletes two hundred You mentioned,
as I said, the prime of their lives. What distinguishes them?
Is there a feature that they all have that sets
them apart.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, a good question. I mean, look, they are all different,
they are all unique, and some are really quite extrovert
and they sort of bounced around the place and I
was a not So they're all quite different. But they've
all got this kind of I guess, an aura of
being good at something. Clearly they all are. And yeah,
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it's it's just kind of coll to be around because
they're all they're all there for a reason, that all
worked extremely hard to get there, and so for some
of them, you know, the rewards as the participation in itself,
because they know, we know they all can't stand on
the podium, but just the way they go about, you know,
the effort they put in, it's it's quite awesome. It's
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all the difficult to describe.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, that's because you've got Hamusk. We've interviewed him James
and I and is lovely. But he's very confident. I
don't say that it's a bad thing. He's just very confident.
Then you've got the Lydias and the Butcher with the
kayaking whatever that events. Butcher and so I understand it's
just crazy. Yeah. Our guest is Nigel Avery in New Zealand,
Olympic teams shift the mission from that highly successful the
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most successful campaign. Thank you again, Nigel for your time
at all.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Nigel quick fire question number one. What's the one of
the nicest compliments you've ever received?
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Maybe not the nice and maybe the most unusual. At
first ever social media post to products mind more, which business,
the first comment or the only comment was nice teeth.
About a year later I gave it. I got that
woman alone, So that.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Was That's gorgeous. If you had the power to change
one thing in your world, Nigel, in your particular world,
what would it be?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Well, I think maybe the world in general. Just peace
and harmony.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Nice.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
Yeah, Hey, what's something that you thought was important when
you were young but as you got older you realized
it it's not that important?
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Probably you know what people think of you. It doesn't
really worry me now.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Do you know who you are?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
We've had all manner of politicians, stars, musicians, people like
yourself on here in Nigel. Success for the athletes, and
that's the thing that crops up most office. I say,
just to not worry about people. Think, what are your
most out of in your life? So far?
Speaker 3 (11:08):
You've got so much pretty family. Shelley and I are
raising three beautiful girls. They're wonderful kids and so far,
so good with him.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
How old are your children?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Twins are sixteen and eldest three daughters who's are about
to turn twenty?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Oh well nice, I thought you'd be proud of those teeth. Hey,
what do you consider your worst quality? We'll use the
word worst.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Probably have a problem saying maybe yes, too much fine,
hard to say no to things and people are possibly
worth saying.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, Okay, are you going to stay in the role
of shift mission for twenty twenty eight in Los Angeles?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, I'd love to. I guess there's a process involved
with that, so I'll kind of just be part of
that and see what happens really too.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Hey, if you could invite any one person still alive
for dinner, who would that be?
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I think I'd invite big Grills to sharp at the
boys hunting trip at yeah, the Red Heart and he
had a cooked properly and to scale that. But I
think probably Elon two. Yeah, because I think he just
thinks just so differently on different things. That would be
pretty interesting conversation.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, Elon would be useless in the hunting trip though
he's not going to hollow out a carcass for you
to sleep in overnight. No, no, hey, we've really enjoyed
talking with you, Nigel, and congratulations again. You did seem
to run it just it just looked like the New
Zealand team really was harmonious on every level. So congratulations again.
It must have been something to really celebrate, an a
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wonderful thing to be part of. So we're going to
finish with your choice of song. What have you chosen en?
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Why?
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Please?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We're going to go Ain't just dreemon? I think it
would be most appropriate. So toy for identic conjunction with
a couple of Olympians for the jed OC. So I
played that to my girls before it was released and
I said, well he's the reason of this guys, and
they both were started to tip and hit Bob and
I said, oh yeah, we could be on for a.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Winning say what again? Who it is and what it is?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Angel treatment by toy Boy.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Okay, that's great, that's really lovely. Well we're going to
play that for you. Thank you very very much again,
Nigel for your time, all the best going forward.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Yeah, thank you very much to you guys, and enjoy
listening to your show.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Thank you very much, Nigel Avery, what a nice nice
man and this is his choice of.
Speaker 5 (13:32):
Song to dageous stream Ress.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Hold on.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
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