This week on the Highlight Reel, Simon Barnett and James Daniels are vibing the Olympics big time but they do have one question: where has the humility gone in sport?
The pair also get stuck into the mathematics vs arts and culture equation. With our maths achievement levels falling do we need to make room for more tuition by reducing the time given to other subjects?
Si & James also look at the need for a review of our Aged Care sector after complaints get louder from some retirement village residents.
Plus, Si was surprised that adults as well as kids break-up with friends.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
D be good a there, welcome to the show. Hey,
James Shelder, Simon good I to everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's official. I love the Olympics. Oh yeah. It was
a slow burn for me. Hated the opening ceremony and
I was like, wasn't really interested to But the first
couple of days I'm like, oh well I got the Yeah.
I was like, why am I not interested in this?
Now I'm in I'm in big, I'm in deep, I'm
in boots and all. I like when the athletics start
to be honest. I think that's really when it happens.
(00:48):
I know the other ones are okay, but what about it?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But it's not mean the Olympics to me, Yeah, I
do a lot of my athletics.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But then you see there's always something happening in the pool,
which I love. But look the reason I saw I
love it. I mean, who gets up in turns the
television on at six am me because it's the Olympics,
and this guy comes on. His name is Mark. I
think it's Marco. Marco Deplantis. He is the Swedish Olympic
champion from last Olympics. In the pole vault. Oh right, right, Mondo,
(01:16):
that's him, Mondo, Mondo de Plantis, Mondo Armando. I think
it's a full name anyway, So long story short, folks,
if you didn't see it, it's just such brilliant competition
and I mean it was pulsating.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And I nobody's heard of Mondo de Plantis.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So in the pole vite he wins gold and he's
clearly you know, he's clearly so superior to the to
the silver medalist and the bronze medist. But he's won gold.
But he still can compete and even goes the other
ones have failed, the other ones have failed at the height.
So he gets the Olympic record, gets the gold and
it's the final event of the calendar overnight and he goes,
(01:55):
stuff it. I'm going for the world record. He's only
twenty three, so the whole stadium goes good on him.
You know. It's like it's it's like if you think
of a rugby match when it's full time and you
know you've won the game, but the team with the
balls still runs it. Runs it exactly, run it, don't
kick it, run it. The Planders doesn't kick it. He
runs it. He goes, stuff it. I'm going for gold.
(02:16):
He's got this huge pole. It's the biggest pole that's
been used. And he runs in. His first attempt fails,
crowd goes down, buss so he goes, stuff it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm going again. Runs in up, she goes to em
right over, clears the bar by one thousand.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Meters and then hits the bar on the way down
with his arm, stuffs it. Crowd goes in and he goes,
I'm going again. It's my final attempt. He's already won gold.
He's already got the Olympic red. One year's one. Yeah.
And he goes and the crowd is just polsating, yeah yeah.
And up he saws and he saws, and he soars
(02:52):
like an eagle. Sex point two five meters is the
world record. Clears it by a country mile.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So he's got a new world record, new world record.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
He's twenty three. He's back to back Gold's Olympic record,
world record, out goes nuts. What a moment.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
The Highlight Reel with Simon Barnard and James Daniels. News
Talk said the.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Prime Minister Christopher Luckxson was interviewed on Mike Hoskins Show,
and people are really concerned about the education of our
young people and some levels have slipped to middle to
low order in terms of other OECD countries.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Maths, reading, writing are the big three. Prime Minister Christopher
Luxon said they're going to introduce some of the new
mathematics curriculum a year earlier than planned. That's got the Teachers'
Union's a bit concerned and some are saying, you know
what gives that means teaching our kids to read and
teach them to do mathematics and if everything else has
to be delayed as a consequence of that, so be it.
(03:47):
So that was one of the things a lot of
commentators picked up on. If it means arts and culture
has to be delayed, so be it. For me, I
kind of agree with what he's saying. He went on
to say in the interview, which I think is fair too.
He says, and I quote, how on earth do you
get a four lane highway from Auckland to FuG at
a with future generations that can't do maths, How do
you be the world leaders in agri science if we
(04:08):
don't have our kids knowing how to do maths and
read properly. All fair? Now, you're a school principal, are
you in? I am indeed did those words of the
promise to sort of alarm you at all? If it
means we're going to defer our arts to music curriculum
for now, then so be it.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I mean, I am one hundred percent supportive of we
need to do something because standards have fallen drastically over
the years. And I've been a principal for thirty three years,
I've been in teaching for thirty six and it's absolutely
true standards the lower But you cannot just have a
focus on maths, reading and writing. We'll have other issues
(04:45):
in with attendance all over again. Kids will be bought
out of your tree if that's all they're.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Doing at school.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
It's got to be And in an end, the music
and the dance and the drama and the performing arts,
that's the stuff that turns you on right at school,
that's the stuff that helps you be a better learner.
So I'm really concerned with what's happening, and I agree
with everything National has been doing, actually, which is unusual
for for a teacher to be seeing this. But you
know what, we've got to do something, but we can't
(05:12):
do it at the expense of the other curriculum areas.
I think the Prime Minister was wrong in saying that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So why, in your view have the standards dropped so much?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Teachers don't have the same passion as they did in
the past, in the sense that they really wanted to
be a teacher. I think now not everyone is that.
And when it changed to a university course for primary schools,
that also ripped the guts out of being a well
rounded person to be a primary teacher. You know, it
became way too academic. Now that sounds real bad, saying
(05:41):
you don't have to be to be a teacher. You've
got to be a pretty well rounded individual. I believe
to be an effective primary intermediate school teacher.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I think for.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Me, haven't we already just now adjusted to one hour
reading maths and writing a day part of the curriculum.
I'm not sure how much more time and energy my
kids could put into their math reading and writing during
a day. They need the music and the culture and
the forming arts and the sports to break up their days,
to burn the energy to stimulate the mind in a
(06:11):
different way. You talk to teachers, they're not sure they
could do more teaching that would be efficient and effective.
I also think that the life skills that it sets
them up. So my cold last term just did a
school production at the primary school and they spend a
lot of their time practicing and rehearsing. And the confidence
that it builds up in them, the resilience that it
builds up in them, all those life skills I think
(06:32):
will be long lasting and forever lasting. Jet a little bit,
but we've all got calculators in our pockets nowadays. As
maths as important as it used to be, I don't know.
So many kids these days are not even being set
up to come to primary school ready to learn from
the age of five, and I think a lot of
that is onus, is on the parents. We can't just
expect the school to teach our kids everything.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I guess one thing that I do think is valid
those Steve is what they're saying at the moment when
kids get to high school now they're so underprepared for
the likes of maths and reading. They hate school and
they want to leave, which is why record numbers are
leaving under the age of seventeen, because they're completely ill
equipped to hand handle the demands.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
The balance has got to be in proportionate to what
is required for the individual student, or the class or
the school as a whole. But I still think those
non vital subjects like your music, your performance arts, your sport,
your cultural languages, is super important to developing well rounded individuals.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
The highlight reel they do in Belgium, and they have
been since twenty eighteen, and they're doing it in a
number of countries across the globe, and Australia intend to
do it. Basically in two weeks time, you will soon
be able to ignore the boss out of ours because
in Australia they are passing what is called the Right
(07:44):
to Disconnect Bill. So in twenty days exactly, so just
less than three weeks, the Fair Work Amendment or the
Right to Disconnect Bill comes into effect in Australia and
it means that an employee can refuse to monitor, read,
or respond to contact from an employer or a third
party outside of working hours, so into effect in three weeks.
(08:07):
In the question is should we adot something similar in
this country. I think you think we should.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Why don't you like it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Because it's like a blunt instrument, and it's like the
government telling you what to do in your workplace, the
way you should work and so on. And I just
think that it should be in your employment agreement as
to what the heck you do in terms of contact,
in terms of expectations around notification, and whether it's appropriate
(08:34):
to communicate at any time of the day, like it's
between you and your employer. So the boss can still
make contact, absolutely, and you can still respond. Nobody's preventing
or prohibiting that. But you have the right if it's
an unreasonable boss.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
With this law to say, oh man, hey, I wasn't
checking it, and there's no consequences because you're protected by
the law. Hello, they're clear.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Yes, I agree with you, Simon, but I also agree
with James. It is a blunt instrument.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
I certainly see that.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
But I like it not from an employer employee relationship,
but to the wider community relationship because what it sends
to customers and to parents of students at schools and
things like that, that there can't be an expectation of instance,
communication with everybody all the time. Yeah, and I think
(09:26):
that that's a really positive steps for society.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I didn't actually consider that, but you're right, clear, it's
the message this legislation sends. As you say, to the
wider community, goes, okay, it's inappropriate. There are appropriate times
to email about work, and there are inappropriate times. If
it's in legislation, there's a kind of a big signal
or a smoke signal to the whole country saying hey,
we don't do this. It's a big brother signal.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's no good on your clear. That's a good point.
I like it. It swings both ways, guys. I'm a
manager who gets texts at five am or earlier from
staff members. Employees texting me when they're not going to
come in.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's because they're arriving home.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Did I ben Look, I don't have a problem during
the week days bosses ringing in regards to the previous
day's work late at night, if it's an emergency. If
it's not an emergency, don't contact me. And if it's
on the weekend, about next week's work. I don't want
to know until Monday.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Do you get text from your boss in the weekend.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Not regularly but now and again? Yes, but I won't
respond to those texts until Monday because that's weekends my time.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I think that's fair. What do you say to
what James was suggesting, Ben that you should be able
to know and be able to discuss that with You know,
your boss should be able to say to you, and
you should be able to say to him. Look, I
don't want to get calls on the weekend. Have you
ever asked your boss about the weekend?
Speaker 9 (10:45):
Course, He's only done it once or twice, and I
just don't answer them. So we've never communicated. I've just
simply said, oh, I didn't have my phone on me
when I went into work on Monday. But yeah, I
reckon that you need to maintain a good working relationship
and if you need to have a word to the
boss that hey, this is an appropriate do it because
(11:06):
you better off to do that. You're probably not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The Highlight Reel with Sion James. The Highlight Reel with
Sion James.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Now I'm going to get myself off side and I
know I will, but I'm going to say it anyway. Well,
I'm with you on this, are you?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I am with you on this?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Okay, great, right, put it there.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, give me five.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I've always loved and admired and respected humility. And you
know the likes of Nelson Mandela, all those years in
prison and he came out and he didn't seem to
have a venomous bone in his body or any desire
for retribution. That's one act of humility. You love seeing
it with sports people. The greatest of the greats, Rafael Nadal,
Roger Federick in the tennis community, humble to a fault,
(11:51):
Peter Snell, Peter Snell, another one, Murray Hellberg. In the
current day, Sir Michael Jones. Could you get a more
good humble athlete than Sir Michael Jones? Right, So it
really jars with me when I see like Noah Lyles,
the American sprinter. It's just won one hundred and a
fascinating race and it was gripping, no question, was wonderful.
But when they introduced him, all the athletes are on
(12:12):
the start line, they introduced him, and he carries on
like a pork chop runs halfway up the track, dancing
and calling to the crowd. And then when he wins,
not particularly gracious in victory. And when he's asked, you
know what he wants to do now, you say, I
want to grow the sport, but instead of that, he goes,
I want a sneaker line in my name.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And then this offsider says, so you want some sprig shoes,
you know, because athletes running, and he goes, no, no,
there's no money in those. I want sneakers like Jordan.
That's too showy for me, even for me. Simone Biles,
you know, I know she's great and all that, but
she's got on her leotard greatest of all time goat.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's for other people to see. You don't put that
on your own leotat. And I just asked the question. Yes,
they are gifted athletes, but they have been given that gift.
I could train as hard as Simone bars and I'll
never be able to do that on the beam floor.
I find her very very annoying with the way she
wins to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Anyway, what do you think for every humble sportsman, you
need the great showman? I E. Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan,
Floyd Mayweather, Ronaldo. The reason people love them is because
they put so much on the line with their arrogance.
There's probably some truth in there.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You watch them because you want to see them get
taken down.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
The text goes on to say if they lose the
amount of hate they get, they just get ramped up
all the more. Your hello rideka Hi.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
The other side is manifestation. Some of them do it
because it just lifts up their mindset. And I know
a few fingers in like I come from India that
their use of good goat and they're amazing fingers. So
it's basically manifesting as well that you're going to win.
And I think kidis are too humble. It's about time
(13:57):
you showed a bit of competitive side as well. I
know it's I mean, I believe in humility, but in
sports you put you know, you put so many hours
of even saying and if you are you know, your
mindset is you win and you do win. I feel
it it's fair if you say you are good.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
I just wanted to chime in briefly about Noah lah
So I know it's that and I used to be
a professional athlete, so I've been in the game. It
actually has nothing to do with the other athletes that
standing next to him, as if they're not counted. It's
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an individual thing. One a personality, two a marketing, and
three what gets him going for him to deliver the goods. Now,
if someone asks me, as a former athlete, how I
would react when someone behaves like that next to me,
I'm telling you right now it would rile me up
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in terms of getting my game on, because I'm not
gonna let that type of show get into my focusedness.
The moment you get into that, you're done. You have
to be absolutely locked in. You've got to be focused
because at the end of the day you go back
in the warm of era and everybody is laughing and
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get it along together. You got introverts and extroverts, and
sometimes extroverts can come off as being bullish, and sometimes
the introverts are the one who actually delivered the good
So it's kind of a personal choice, but in sports,
you got to be extremely careful not to let each
person's personality get into your way, and you're just not
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going to survive.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You've said that very well, Dove, did you carry on
before you. You said you're a professional athlete, so obviously
very accomplished. Yes, was that you did you jump up
and down and get into people's faces?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
No, no, no, I'll be honest with you. So I
internalized the all process, right, I get very competitive and
aggressive to fit the situation that's that's in front of me.
It's just the nature of the beasts.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Fair enough, we get that, Hey, Dave, to what level
did you compete? What was the highest level of level
of competition for you as an eight hundred meter runner.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
World Championships and the Olympics. Wow, I ran for Jamaica.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
What a machine. Thank you for calling well, you would
have been gathered that. Who was the sprinter that lost
in Noah Laws and the one hundred hoping right, you're right?
Speaker 8 (16:45):
That is that is just taken off in Jamaica. Massive discussion.
But you have to understand Shane Thompson last. Shane Thompson
him by a whisker torso.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Five thousandths of a second.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Right, if he had dipped the right shoulder, Kishane would
have won.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I was hoping you're lovely, Dave. Thank you for calling mate.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
All right?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
The first Retail Union Howlong with MTA basically calling for
the right to publish video and photograph of what they
say as offenders of crime. You know, it could be
the service station or a dairy. At the moment, it's
illegal to publish some of those pictures, although daries do it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Don't they.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I think they do it. Yeah, we see it on
TV a lot. And they're saying they want the right
to publish this CCTV footage to deter crime, and a
lot of people agree with them. I go, well, I
get that, but what if you get it wrong?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But how can you get it wrong If it's the
footage of someone doing something.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Well, it may not be actual footage of them in
the act. It may be just somebody they suspect and
they go, this person, we've lost X petrol or this
was stolen when this person happened to be the only
one in the shop. So we're going to put the
picture up. If they get it wrong, there could be
a lot of consequences. They already do that, though those
still pictures of people who have done stuff they're not
supposed to though, oh right, okay, so First Retail union't
(18:11):
want the right to publish those and basically no consequences
if they get it wrong. I suppose they say sorry, impunity.
That's what they wanted pretty much, Miriam, Hello there, how
are you welcome?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Good, thank you, good, thank you.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
Preschool is in the back, so if you hear weird noises,
that's what's going.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
On, no problem. Good on you.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I think they probably should publish the photos, but I
think they're actually careful.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
Sorry, no, it's great.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Doing it on purpose, Now I've stop it. My sister
looking to a supermarket and she did the payWave on
the self service check out and wasn't thinking, walked out
and realized she didn't realize it hadn't actually.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Gone through it, and so you know, tick the place.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
She stole the groceries, but you know, not on purpose.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So she was completely away, unawares that her payWave hadn't
gone through.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Yes, right, And.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
The next time she went to the supermarket, her photo
was displayed for the world to see.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Ah, you see that's played for the grocery.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
She must have been so embarrassed, was she Did she
see her photograph up?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
She was super embarrassed.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
Yes, and her photograph was up.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
But what was more embarrassing.
Speaker 11 (19:31):
She's a high school teacher and.
Speaker 10 (19:36):
Family and my PIDs that I've seen that I teach have.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Seen that photograph us as well.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I've kind of rest my case with that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Miriam.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Thank you, because that's what my biggest concerns, and I
think James as well. The people that have done nothing
wrong get their mag shot. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, that's right, excellent, Miriam.
Thank you for persisting. And I'm glad your son seems
to have put the fire out, so good news all round.
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The little kid's name was Flick good Anthony.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
Yeah, so I just want to share. I've been working
at a service station since I was a teenager. So yeah,
at the start, when I started working, when people would
drive off of their petrol, we used to give a
phone call to the police, but most of the time
you realize that nothing really gets done. The money doesn't
come back, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
Yeah, we started posting security footage of them on community
pages on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Right.
Speaker 12 (20:32):
I don't think we've ever had a case where someone's
been like, oh, here's your money, but like police eve
a caught back and be like, oh, here's your money back,
you know. But then, yeah, when we started posting community pages,
we've actually had a few situations where people would actually
know those people and then they're contacting themselves or something,
and we had like someone like their parents come back
and be like, oh, sorry for what happened. Here's here's
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the money for the petrol or whatever they shoplifted and stall.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
That is a great result. But I guess this is
where I'm torn because I know people will hate me
saying this, But do you have to still think about
those that might get you know, get their photo or
their image placed up there, might get maligned on social
media and if it's on Facebook or Instagram, it might
be seen by thousands of people and it could be wrong.
You could have got it wrong. Highlight real good discussion,
(21:15):
robust discussion. This about the retirement Village's Residence Association. They're
calling for a review into the sector. They wanted to
go before Parliament because they say there's a real need
and that the elderly and those that require the services
are actually being fleeced, and the legislation is twenty years
old and needs to be looked at. I say amen
to all of that. If nothing happens, that's fine. If
they say and determine that it's fair and just, then fine,
(21:38):
but do a review for sure. Here's where I have
a problem, James. I don't see how you can defend this, guys,
great chat. My parents paid three hundred and twenty thousand
dollars for a two bedroom unit thirteen years ago. One
parent was put into hospital care five years ago, which
meant they lost the right to occupy because they now
require care right right. Then the second parent passed three
(22:00):
years ago. We were paid back two hundred and eighty
six thousand following refurbishment. The retirement village then on sold
the unit the Ora for six hundred and sixty eight
thousand dollars. The lawyer described the agreement as a legal scam.
But I do agree with you, James on discount says
the text you need to read the contract and get
(22:21):
good advice. Thank you for that. I appreciate that last bit.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yep. It looks unfair and it doesn't look right. It
smells a wee bit, but that's what it said and
that's what they did.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But this is a bit that I don't understand, James.
I'm genuinely not trying to be intransigent here. If it's
changed and every single retirement village gets the new legislation.
They say, you can't do that. Just when you on
sell the ora or pay back the people that have
had it for thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You've got to pay the market price, not the price
they purchased at. That alone would make a substantial difference
to all the elderly and their families.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Well, that's what it's really about.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's about the people who are worried about their inheritance
being eaten away. That's a lot of what it's about,
because often you're dealing with the states.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
But I just can I just say to that though
one thing personal story my father in law. So you're
saying it's about the beneficiaries of the in a lot
of cases, they're the ones that are worried about it,
and that could well be true. But I know my
beautiful father in law, Fred, he was so anxious as
he watched his life savings just go down down down town.
He was absolutely anxious to the point of not being
(23:27):
able to see because he was worried that some of
his kids weren't doing that well and he wanted to
provide for them. So it's not just the beneficiaries, the
actual parents to go, oh my gosh, they'll be aware
of it. They want to help, but that's what they
signed up to when they went in. And I'm not
being rude.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I don't mean to be rude to anyone about this,
but you know, read what you're signing and.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Live with it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
These are businesses, That's what these things are. They're not charities.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Businesses.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Get that. If you don't want it, if you can't,
if you don't like the terms of the agreement, don't
sign them.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, as they went somewhere else to live, and they're
often isn't. And so my point is, do you not
think that, even though they're businesses and I get that,
that they have a duty to actually look after the
elderly and kiff and they can still make their profits,
just not exorbitant profits, just not obscene profits.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
They have to act on the best interests of the companies,
that's the first thing, and therefore the shareholders.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
The best moment from the week. This is the highlight
reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels, powered by News
talks Et.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I'm sort of loath to mention this, but I think
I might. My wee beautiful week, grandson Monty came and
had a sleepover with chief.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm the chief last weekend. Yeah, and I hope, my gosh,
I hope my daughter's not listening to this. And the
mother my daughter.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
And Mons gets his wee bag out and he gets
his Jarmi's on, and then he grab your toothbrush, mate,
we'll go and clean our teeth. He gets his toothbrush.
All right, he did have it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
The head on the toothbrush, oh, was all scungy, looked
like a twenty year old dunny brush. The bristols were
all right angles.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And then when he put then he cleaned his teeth,
he would have given them eight seconds. And then he
speeds toothpaste all over the bench.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I'm like, what the hell's going on there?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Especially with your O C D. That would have been
really difficult.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I couldn't handle it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So I'm like, uh So, when I dropped my phone
with his mom, I said, hey, Sam, or you mentioned her?
I shouldn't your name? Sorry not Sam daughter? I said, Love,
would you like me to buy Why didn't you just
do it and just drop it and leave it in
(25:41):
his toilet bag? Much better idea, you're a hopeless grandparent.
Much better idea. I should have done that, But I said,
would you like me to buy months a new toothbrush head?
Because that thinks terrible? She goes, what's wrong with it?
I go, have you seen it? She goes, yeah, okay,
well the bristles are all stuffed. It's like, how old
is it? So we had a bit of a chance.
Speaker 13 (25:59):
A dead always a dead your poor daughters. We had
a bit of a chet. He stayed last weekend. Get
your toothbrush ons all right? Jeeves comes in same toothbrush head.
Brussels everywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So I don't know. Parents are useless. There's a long
way of getting to that statement. That's my assessment. Parents
need to take greater control and responsibility for their kid's teeth,
or bring back the dental nurse chats.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
Laughs and the best cause this is the highlight reel
with Simon Barnett and James Daniels powered Bundy's talk sa'd be.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
The different scenarios as to why adults break up with
other adults is fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Hello, Marie, how are you Hello?
Speaker 8 (26:45):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Thank good?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
So now have you unfriended someone?
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (26:49):
I have as an adults. I'm fifty six now, so
you know yeah, I have. I haven't done it at
a whim, you know, It's been a considered decision and
not before trying to sort things out for them. But
I strongly believe some people are your friends for a
buffer season and for butter reasons, and then others are forever.
(27:11):
And yeah, I'm okay with that. But if I do,
you come across them, jump into them with social you know,
you know, social networking and stuff. I will never ignore somebody,
but I but I definitely feel like, okay, I feel
glad that I actually ended that relationship because it was
toxic or you know.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
But why do you ghost them? Why don't you just
front up?
Speaker 11 (27:33):
Because some people are incapable of having a conversation about
something as touchy as whatever went on in your friendship.
Some people just can't do it. And I tried with
people like that and I end up being the one
that gets really hurt. So for me, I for self preservation,
I sometimes do ghosts. It's not worth my stress levels
(27:56):
going up or me being hurt by by horrible words
with people who can't talk through things.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Hello, Belinda, Hi, you've been ghosted. Yes, I've been as
an adult, as.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
An adult by my best friend. We were friends for
about twenty years and then we had gone out one night,
had a great night, and then the next day I
missaged her and said, oh gosh, there was such a
great night, and she didn't message back, and then numerous
tis messages. I'm like, have you lost your phone? Two
weeks go by it and hear from her, and then
(28:29):
she calls me and hangs up, and then I go, oh,
what's sorry, I missed your call, she said, and then
she just messages butt dial and there's the last I
heard from her.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Oh wow off.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Well, yes, but it's like one of those things that's
like the unknown, you know, like what did I do?
I left lots of messages like saying like come on
talk to me, like cool, what's what's the problem. Do
I need to turn up to your house? Like what
is going on? And just ghosted nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I expect that from fifteen year olds. I'm not saying
you you your mate there, you're old mate. That's just terrible.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Well, I just don't think there could have been anything
that could have happened that would warrant us, you.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Know, like maybe she's threatened by Bloin because you're so
stunning and such fun and such an amazingly dynamic person,
whause I can't hang out with her.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
That's the reason.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Take that away with you, Belinda, Thank you for calling.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
Thank you for more from Simon Barnett and James Daniels. Afternoons,
listen live to news talks ed be, or follow the
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You're listening to the Simon Barnett and James Daniels Afternoons
podcast from News Talks, EDB chats, laughs and the best calls.
This is the Highlight Reel with Simon Barnett and James Daniels,
powered by News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
D be good a there, welcome to the show. Hey,
James Shelder, Simon good I to everyone.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
It's official. I love the Olympics. Oh yeah. It was
a slow burn for me. Hated the opening ceremony and
I was like, wasn't really interested to But the first
couple of days I'm like, oh well I got the Yeah.
I was like, why am I not interested in this?
Now I'm in I'm in big, I'm in deep, I'm
in boots and all. I like when the athletics start
to be honest. I think that's really when it happens.
(00:48):
I know the other ones are okay, but what about it?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
But it's not mean the Olympics to me, Yeah, I
do a lot of my athletics.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
But then you see there's always something happening in the pool,
which I love. But look the reason I saw I
love it. I mean, who gets up in turns the
television on at six am me because it's the Olympics,
and this guy comes on. His name is Mark. I
think it's Marco. Marco Deplantis. He is the Swedish Olympic
champion from last Olympics. In the pole vault. Oh right, right, Mondo,
(01:16):
that's him, Mondo, Mondo de Plantis, Mondo Armando. I think
it's a full name anyway, So long story short, folks,
if you didn't see it, it's just such brilliant competition
and I mean it was pulsating.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
And I nobody's heard of Mondo de Plantis.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
So in the pole vite he wins gold and he's
clearly you know, he's clearly so superior to the to
the silver medalist and the bronze medist. But he's won gold.
But he still can compete and even goes the other
ones have failed, the other ones have failed at the height.
So he gets the Olympic record, gets the gold and
it's the final event of the calendar overnight and he goes,
(01:55):
stuff it. I'm going for the world record. He's only
twenty three, so the whole stadium goes good on him.
You know. It's like it's it's like if you think
of a rugby match when it's full time and you
know you've won the game, but the team with the
balls still runs it. Runs it exactly, run it, don't
kick it, run it. The Planders doesn't kick it. He
runs it. He goes, stuff it. I'm going for gold.
(02:16):
He's got this huge pole. It's the biggest pole that's
been used. And he runs in. His first attempt fails,
crowd goes down, buss so he goes, stuff it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I'm going again. Runs in up, she goes to em
right over, clears the bar by one thousand.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Meters and then hits the bar on the way down
with his arm, stuffs it. Crowd goes in and he goes,
I'm going again. It's my final attempt. He's already won gold.
He's already got the Olympic red. One year's one. Yeah.
And he goes and the crowd is just polsating, yeah yeah.
And up he saws and he saws, and he soars
(02:52):
like an eagle. Sex point two five meters is the
world record. Clears it by a country mile.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
So he's got a new world record, new world record.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
He's twenty three. He's back to back Gold's Olympic record,
world record, out goes nuts. What a moment.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
The Highlight Reel with Simon Barnard and James Daniels. News
Talk said the.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Prime Minister Christopher Luckxson was interviewed on Mike Hoskins Show,
and people are really concerned about the education of our
young people and some levels have slipped to middle to
low order in terms of other OECD countries.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Maths, reading, writing are the big three. Prime Minister Christopher
Luxon said they're going to introduce some of the new
mathematics curriculum a year earlier than planned. That's got the Teachers'
Union's a bit concerned and some are saying, you know
what gives that means teaching our kids to read and
teach them to do mathematics and if everything else has
to be delayed as a consequence of that, so be it.
(03:47):
So that was one of the things a lot of
commentators picked up on. If it means arts and culture
has to be delayed, so be it. For me, I
kind of agree with what he's saying. He went on
to say in the interview, which I think is fair too.
He says, and I quote, how on earth do you
get a four lane highway from Auckland to FuG at
a with future generations that can't do maths, How do
you be the world leaders in agri science if we
(04:08):
don't have our kids knowing how to do maths and
read properly. All fair? Now, you're a school principal, are
you in? I am indeed did those words of the
promise to sort of alarm you at all? If it
means we're going to defer our arts to music curriculum
for now, then so be it.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (04:23):
I mean, I am one hundred percent supportive of we
need to do something because standards have fallen drastically over
the years. And I've been a principal for thirty three years,
I've been in teaching for thirty six and it's absolutely
true standards the lower But you cannot just have a
focus on maths, reading and writing. We'll have other issues
(04:45):
in with attendance all over again. Kids will be bought
out of your tree if that's all they're.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Doing at school.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
It's got to be And in an end, the music
and the dance and the drama and the performing arts,
that's the stuff that turns you on right at school,
that's the stuff that helps you be a better learner.
So I'm really concerned with what's happening, and I agree
with everything National has been doing, actually, which is unusual
for for a teacher to be seeing this. But you
know what, we've got to do something, but we can't
(05:12):
do it at the expense of the other curriculum areas.
I think the Prime Minister was wrong in saying that.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
So why, in your view have the standards dropped so much?
Speaker 5 (05:20):
Teachers don't have the same passion as they did in
the past, in the sense that they really wanted to
be a teacher. I think now not everyone is that.
And when it changed to a university course for primary schools,
that also ripped the guts out of being a well
rounded person to be a primary teacher. You know, it
became way too academic. Now that sounds real bad, saying
(05:41):
you don't have to be to be a teacher. You've
got to be a pretty well rounded individual. I believe
to be an effective primary intermediate school teacher.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
I think for.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Me, haven't we already just now adjusted to one hour
reading maths and writing a day part of the curriculum.
I'm not sure how much more time and energy my
kids could put into their math reading and writing during
a day. They need the music and the culture and
the forming arts and the sports to break up their days,
to burn the energy to stimulate the mind in a
(06:11):
different way. You talk to teachers, they're not sure they
could do more teaching that would be efficient and effective.
I also think that the life skills that it sets
them up. So my cold last term just did a
school production at the primary school and they spend a
lot of their time practicing and rehearsing. And the confidence
that it builds up in them, the resilience that it
builds up in them, all those life skills I think
(06:32):
will be long lasting and forever lasting. Jet a little bit,
but we've all got calculators in our pockets nowadays. As
maths as important as it used to be, I don't know.
So many kids these days are not even being set
up to come to primary school ready to learn from
the age of five, and I think a lot of
that is onus, is on the parents. We can't just
expect the school to teach our kids everything.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I guess one thing that I do think is valid
those Steve is what they're saying at the moment when
kids get to high school now they're so underprepared for
the likes of maths and reading. They hate school and
they want to leave, which is why record numbers are
leaving under the age of seventeen, because they're completely ill
equipped to hand handle the demands.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
The balance has got to be in proportionate to what
is required for the individual student, or the class or
the school as a whole. But I still think those
non vital subjects like your music, your performance arts, your sport,
your cultural languages, is super important to developing well rounded individuals.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
The highlight reel they do in Belgium, and they have
been since twenty eighteen, and they're doing it in a
number of countries across the globe, and Australia intend to
do it. Basically in two weeks time, you will soon
be able to ignore the boss out of ours because
in Australia they are passing what is called the Right
(07:44):
to Disconnect Bill. So in twenty days exactly, so just
less than three weeks, the Fair Work Amendment or the
Right to Disconnect Bill comes into effect in Australia and
it means that an employee can refuse to monitor, read,
or respond to contact from an employer or a third
party outside of working hours, so into effect in three weeks.
(08:07):
In the question is should we adot something similar in
this country. I think you think we should.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Why don't you like it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Because it's like a blunt instrument, and it's like the
government telling you what to do in your workplace, the
way you should work and so on. And I just
think that it should be in your employment agreement as
to what the heck you do in terms of contact,
in terms of expectations around notification, and whether it's appropriate
(08:34):
to communicate at any time of the day, like it's
between you and your employer. So the boss can still
make contact, absolutely, and you can still respond. Nobody's preventing
or prohibiting that. But you have the right if it's
an unreasonable boss.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
With this law to say, oh man, hey, I wasn't
checking it, and there's no consequences because you're protected by
the law. Hello, they're clear.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Yes, I agree with you, Simon, but I also agree
with James. It is a blunt instrument.
Speaker 8 (09:01):
I certainly see that.
Speaker 7 (09:03):
But I like it not from an employer employee relationship,
but to the wider community relationship because what it sends
to customers and to parents of students at schools and
things like that, that there can't be an expectation of instance,
communication with everybody all the time. Yeah, and I think
(09:26):
that that's a really positive steps for society.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I didn't actually consider that, but you're right, clear, it's
the message this legislation sends. As you say, to the
wider community, goes, okay, it's inappropriate. There are appropriate times
to email about work, and there are inappropriate times. If
it's in legislation, there's a kind of a big signal
or a smoke signal to the whole country saying hey,
we don't do this. It's a big brother signal.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
It's no good on your clear. That's a good point.
I like it. It swings both ways, guys. I'm a
manager who gets texts at five am or earlier from
staff members. Employees texting me when they're not going to
come in.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
That's because they're arriving home.
Speaker 9 (10:02):
Did I ben Look, I don't have a problem during
the week days bosses ringing in regards to the previous
day's work late at night, if it's an emergency. If
it's not an emergency, don't contact me. And if it's
on the weekend, about next week's work. I don't want
to know until Monday.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
Do you get text from your boss in the weekend.
Speaker 9 (10:24):
Not regularly but now and again? Yes, but I won't
respond to those texts until Monday because that's weekends my time.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I think that's fair. What do you say to
what James was suggesting, Ben that you should be able
to know and be able to discuss that with You know,
your boss should be able to say to you, and
you should be able to say to him. Look, I
don't want to get calls on the weekend. Have you
ever asked your boss about the weekend?
Speaker 9 (10:45):
Course, He's only done it once or twice, and I
just don't answer them. So we've never communicated. I've just
simply said, oh, I didn't have my phone on me
when I went into work on Monday. But yeah, I
reckon that you need to maintain a good working relationship
and if you need to have a word to the
boss that hey, this is an appropriate do it because
(11:06):
you better off to do that. You're probably not saying anything.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
The Highlight Reel with Sion James. The Highlight Reel with
Sion James.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Now I'm going to get myself off side and I
know I will, but I'm going to say it anyway. Well,
I'm with you on this, are you?
Speaker 7 (11:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:23):
I am with you on this?
Speaker 2 (11:24):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Okay, great, right, put it there.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, give me five.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I've always loved and admired and respected humility. And you
know the likes of Nelson Mandela, all those years in
prison and he came out and he didn't seem to
have a venomous bone in his body or any desire
for retribution. That's one act of humility. You love seeing
it with sports people. The greatest of the greats, Rafael Nadal,
Roger Federick in the tennis community, humble to a fault,
(11:51):
Peter Snell, Peter Snell, another one, Murray Hellberg. In the
current day, Sir Michael Jones. Could you get a more
good humble athlete than Sir Michael Jones? Right, So it
really jars with me when I see like Noah Lyles,
the American sprinter. It's just won one hundred and a
fascinating race and it was gripping, no question, was wonderful.
But when they introduced him, all the athletes are on
(12:12):
the start line, they introduced him, and he carries on
like a pork chop runs halfway up the track, dancing
and calling to the crowd. And then when he wins,
not particularly gracious in victory. And when he's asked, you
know what he wants to do now, you say, I
want to grow the sport, but instead of that, he goes,
I want a sneaker line in my name.
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
And then this offsider says, so you want some sprig shoes,
you know, because athletes running, and he goes, no, no,
there's no money in those. I want sneakers like Jordan.
That's too showy for me, even for me. Simone Biles,
you know, I know she's great and all that, but
she's got on her leotard greatest of all time goat.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
That's for other people to see. You don't put that
on your own leotat. And I just asked the question. Yes,
they are gifted athletes, but they have been given that gift.
I could train as hard as Simone bars and I'll
never be able to do that on the beam floor.
I find her very very annoying with the way she
wins to Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Anyway, what do you think for every humble sportsman, you
need the great showman? I E. Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan,
Floyd Mayweather, Ronaldo. The reason people love them is because
they put so much on the line with their arrogance.
There's probably some truth in there.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You watch them because you want to see them get
taken down.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
The text goes on to say if they lose the
amount of hate they get, they just get ramped up
all the more. Your hello rideka Hi.
Speaker 10 (13:36):
The other side is manifestation. Some of them do it
because it just lifts up their mindset. And I know
a few fingers in like I come from India that
their use of good goat and they're amazing fingers. So
it's basically manifesting as well that you're going to win.
And I think kidis are too humble. It's about time
(13:57):
you showed a bit of competitive side as well. I
know it's I mean, I believe in humility, but in
sports you put you know, you put so many hours
of even saying and if you are you know, your
mindset is you win and you do win. I feel
it it's fair if you say you are good.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (14:17):
I just wanted to chime in briefly about Noah lah
So I know it's that and I used to be
a professional athlete, so I've been in the game. It
actually has nothing to do with the other athletes that
standing next to him, as if they're not counted. It's
(14:38):
an individual thing. One a personality, two a marketing, and
three what gets him going for him to deliver the goods. Now,
if someone asks me, as a former athlete, how I
would react when someone behaves like that next to me,
I'm telling you right now it would rile me up
(15:02):
in terms of getting my game on, because I'm not
gonna let that type of show get into my focusedness.
The moment you get into that, you're done. You have
to be absolutely locked in. You've got to be focused
because at the end of the day you go back
in the warm of era and everybody is laughing and
(15:24):
get it along together. You got introverts and extroverts, and
sometimes extroverts can come off as being bullish, and sometimes
the introverts are the one who actually delivered the good
So it's kind of a personal choice, but in sports,
you got to be extremely careful not to let each
person's personality get into your way, and you're just not
(15:49):
going to survive.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
You've said that very well, Dove, did you carry on
before you. You said you're a professional athlete, so obviously
very accomplished. Yes, was that you did you jump up
and down and get into people's faces?
Speaker 8 (16:05):
No, no, no, I'll be honest with you. So I
internalized the all process, right, I get very competitive and
aggressive to fit the situation that's that's in front of me.
It's just the nature of the beasts.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Fair enough, we get that, Hey, Dave, to what level
did you compete? What was the highest level of level
of competition for you as an eight hundred meter runner.
Speaker 8 (16:32):
World Championships and the Olympics. Wow, I ran for Jamaica.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
What a machine. Thank you for calling well, you would
have been gathered that. Who was the sprinter that lost
in Noah Laws and the one hundred hoping right, you're right?
Speaker 8 (16:45):
That is that is just taken off in Jamaica. Massive discussion.
But you have to understand Shane Thompson last. Shane Thompson
him by a whisker torso.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Five thousandths of a second.
Speaker 8 (17:04):
Right, if he had dipped the right shoulder, Kishane would
have won.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
I was hoping you're lovely, Dave. Thank you for calling mate.
Speaker 10 (17:14):
All right?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
The first Retail Union Howlong with MTA basically calling for
the right to publish video and photograph of what they
say as offenders of crime. You know, it could be
the service station or a dairy. At the moment, it's
illegal to publish some of those pictures, although daries do it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Don't they.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
I think they do it. Yeah, we see it on
TV a lot. And they're saying they want the right
to publish this CCTV footage to deter crime, and a
lot of people agree with them. I go, well, I
get that, but what if you get it wrong?
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But how can you get it wrong If it's the
footage of someone doing something.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Well, it may not be actual footage of them in
the act. It may be just somebody they suspect and
they go, this person, we've lost X petrol or this
was stolen when this person happened to be the only
one in the shop. So we're going to put the
picture up. If they get it wrong, there could be
a lot of consequences. They already do that, though those
still pictures of people who have done stuff they're not
supposed to though, oh right, okay, so First Retail union't
(18:11):
want the right to publish those and basically no consequences
if they get it wrong. I suppose they say sorry, impunity.
That's what they wanted pretty much, Miriam, Hello there, how
are you welcome?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Good, thank you, good, thank you.
Speaker 11 (18:23):
Preschool is in the back, so if you hear weird noises,
that's what's going.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
On, no problem. Good on you.
Speaker 7 (18:28):
I think they probably should publish the photos, but I
think they're actually careful.
Speaker 10 (18:34):
Sorry, no, it's great.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
Doing it on purpose, Now I've stop it. My sister
looking to a supermarket and she did the payWave on
the self service check out and wasn't thinking, walked out
and realized she didn't realize it hadn't actually.
Speaker 11 (18:57):
Gone through it, and so you know, tick the place.
Speaker 10 (19:01):
She stole the groceries, but you know, not on purpose.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
So she was completely away, unawares that her payWave hadn't
gone through.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
Yes, right, And.
Speaker 10 (19:12):
The next time she went to the supermarket, her photo
was displayed for the world to see.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
Ah, you see that's played for the grocery.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Right.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
She must have been so embarrassed, was she Did she
see her photograph up?
Speaker 7 (19:27):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
She was super embarrassed.
Speaker 11 (19:28):
Yes, and her photograph was up.
Speaker 9 (19:30):
But what was more embarrassing.
Speaker 11 (19:31):
She's a high school teacher and.
Speaker 10 (19:36):
Family and my PIDs that I've seen that I teach have.
Speaker 9 (19:40):
Seen that photograph us as well.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I've kind of rest my case with that.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
Miriam.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Thank you, because that's what my biggest concerns, and I
think James as well. The people that have done nothing
wrong get their mag shot. Yeah, you're right, Yeah, that's right, excellent, Miriam.
Thank you for persisting. And I'm glad your son seems
to have put the fire out, so good news all round.
(20:06):
The little kid's name was Flick good Anthony.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
Yeah, so I just want to share. I've been working
at a service station since I was a teenager. So yeah,
at the start, when I started working, when people would
drive off of their petrol, we used to give a
phone call to the police, but most of the time
you realize that nothing really gets done. The money doesn't
come back, you know.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 12 (20:25):
Yeah, we started posting security footage of them on community
pages on Facebook.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Right.
Speaker 12 (20:32):
I don't think we've ever had a case where someone's
been like, oh, here's your money, but like police eve
a caught back and be like, oh, here's your money back,
you know. But then, yeah, when we started posting community pages,
we've actually had a few situations where people would actually
know those people and then they're contacting themselves or something,
and we had like someone like their parents come back
and be like, oh, sorry for what happened. Here's here's
(20:52):
the money for the petrol or whatever they shoplifted and stall.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
That is a great result. But I guess this is
where I'm torn because I know people will hate me
saying this, But do you have to still think about
those that might get you know, get their photo or
their image placed up there, might get maligned on social
media and if it's on Facebook or Instagram, it might
be seen by thousands of people and it could be wrong.
You could have got it wrong. Highlight real good discussion,
(21:15):
robust discussion. This about the retirement Village's Residence Association. They're
calling for a review into the sector. They wanted to
go before Parliament because they say there's a real need
and that the elderly and those that require the services
are actually being fleeced, and the legislation is twenty years
old and needs to be looked at. I say amen
to all of that. If nothing happens, that's fine. If
they say and determine that it's fair and just, then fine,
(21:38):
but do a review for sure. Here's where I have
a problem, James. I don't see how you can defend this, guys,
great chat. My parents paid three hundred and twenty thousand
dollars for a two bedroom unit thirteen years ago. One
parent was put into hospital care five years ago, which
meant they lost the right to occupy because they now
require care right right. Then the second parent passed three
(22:00):
years ago. We were paid back two hundred and eighty
six thousand following refurbishment. The retirement village then on sold
the unit the Ora for six hundred and sixty eight
thousand dollars. The lawyer described the agreement as a legal scam.
But I do agree with you, James on discount says
the text you need to read the contract and get
(22:21):
good advice. Thank you for that. I appreciate that last bit.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yep. It looks unfair and it doesn't look right. It
smells a wee bit, but that's what it said and
that's what they did.
Speaker 3 (22:32):
But this is a bit that I don't understand, James.
I'm genuinely not trying to be intransigent here. If it's
changed and every single retirement village gets the new legislation.
They say, you can't do that. Just when you on
sell the ora or pay back the people that have
had it for thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You've got to pay the market price, not the price
they purchased at. That alone would make a substantial difference
to all the elderly and their families.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Well, that's what it's really about.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
It's about the people who are worried about their inheritance
being eaten away. That's a lot of what it's about,
because often you're dealing with the states.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
But I just can I just say to that though
one thing personal story my father in law. So you're
saying it's about the beneficiaries of the in a lot
of cases, they're the ones that are worried about it,
and that could well be true. But I know my
beautiful father in law, Fred, he was so anxious as
he watched his life savings just go down down down town.
He was absolutely anxious to the point of not being
(23:27):
able to see because he was worried that some of
his kids weren't doing that well and he wanted to
provide for them. So it's not just the beneficiaries, the
actual parents to go, oh my gosh, they'll be aware
of it. They want to help, but that's what they
signed up to when they went in. And I'm not
being rude.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
I don't mean to be rude to anyone about this,
but you know, read what you're signing and.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Live with it.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
These are businesses, That's what these things are. They're not charities.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Businesses.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Get that. If you don't want it, if you can't,
if you don't like the terms of the agreement, don't
sign them.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Well, as they went somewhere else to live, and they're
often isn't. And so my point is, do you not
think that, even though they're businesses and I get that,
that they have a duty to actually look after the
elderly and kiff and they can still make their profits,
just not exorbitant profits, just not obscene profits.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
They have to act on the best interests of the companies,
that's the first thing, and therefore the shareholders.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
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Speaker 3 (24:29):
I'm sort of loath to mention this, but I think
I might. My wee beautiful week, grandson Monty came and
had a sleepover with chief.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
That's me.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm the chief last weekend. Yeah, and I hope, my gosh,
I hope my daughter's not listening to this. And the
mother my daughter.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
And Mons gets his wee bag out and he gets
his Jarmi's on, and then he grab your toothbrush, mate,
we'll go and clean our teeth. He gets his toothbrush.
All right, he did have it.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
The head on the toothbrush, oh, was all scungy, looked
like a twenty year old dunny brush. The bristols were
all right angles.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And then when he put then he cleaned his teeth,
he would have given them eight seconds. And then he
speeds toothpaste all over the bench.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I'm like, what the hell's going on there?
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Especially with your O C D. That would have been
really difficult.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
I couldn't handle it.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
So I'm like, uh So, when I dropped my phone
with his mom, I said, hey, Sam, or you mentioned her?
I shouldn't your name? Sorry not Sam daughter? I said, Love,
would you like me to buy Why didn't you just
do it and just drop it and leave it in
(25:41):
his toilet bag? Much better idea, you're a hopeless grandparent.
Much better idea. I should have done that, But I said,
would you like me to buy months a new toothbrush head?
Because that thinks terrible? She goes, what's wrong with it?
I go, have you seen it? She goes, yeah, okay,
well the bristles are all stuffed. It's like, how old
is it? So we had a bit of a chance.
Speaker 13 (25:59):
A dead always a dead your poor daughters. We had
a bit of a chet. He stayed last weekend. Get
your toothbrush ons all right? Jeeves comes in same toothbrush head.
Brussels everywhere.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
So I don't know. Parents are useless. There's a long
way of getting to that statement. That's my assessment. Parents
need to take greater control and responsibility for their kid's teeth,
or bring back the dental nurse chats.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
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Speaker 2 (26:38):
The different scenarios as to why adults break up with
other adults is fascinating to me.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
Hello, Marie, how are you Hello?
Speaker 8 (26:45):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Thank good?
Speaker 3 (26:47):
So now have you unfriended someone?
Speaker 7 (26:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (26:49):
I have as an adults. I'm fifty six now, so
you know yeah, I have. I haven't done it at
a whim, you know, It's been a considered decision and
not before trying to sort things out for them. But
I strongly believe some people are your friends for a
buffer season and for butter reasons, and then others are forever.
(27:11):
And yeah, I'm okay with that. But if I do,
you come across them, jump into them with social you know,
you know, social networking and stuff. I will never ignore somebody,
but I but I definitely feel like, okay, I feel
glad that I actually ended that relationship because it was
toxic or you know.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
But why do you ghost them? Why don't you just
front up?
Speaker 11 (27:33):
Because some people are incapable of having a conversation about
something as touchy as whatever went on in your friendship.
Some people just can't do it. And I tried with
people like that and I end up being the one
that gets really hurt. So for me, I for self preservation,
I sometimes do ghosts. It's not worth my stress levels
(27:56):
going up or me being hurt by by horrible words
with people who can't talk through things.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Hello, Belinda, Hi, you've been ghosted. Yes, I've been as
an adult, as.
Speaker 6 (28:08):
An adult by my best friend. We were friends for
about twenty years and then we had gone out one night,
had a great night, and then the next day I
missaged her and said, oh gosh, there was such a
great night, and she didn't message back, and then numerous
tis messages. I'm like, have you lost your phone? Two
weeks go by it and hear from her, and then
(28:29):
she calls me and hangs up, and then I go, oh,
what's sorry, I missed your call, she said, and then
she just messages butt dial and there's the last I
heard from her.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Oh wow off.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
Well, yes, but it's like one of those things that's
like the unknown, you know, like what did I do?
I left lots of messages like saying like come on
talk to me, like cool, what's what's the problem. Do
I need to turn up to your house? Like what
is going on? And just ghosted nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
I expect that from fifteen year olds. I'm not saying
you you your mate there, you're old mate. That's just terrible.
Speaker 6 (29:05):
Well, I just don't think there could have been anything
that could have happened that would warrant us, you.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Know, like maybe she's threatened by Bloin because you're so
stunning and such fun and such an amazingly dynamic person,
whause I can't hang out with her.
Speaker 4 (29:18):
That's the reason.
Speaker 12 (29:19):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Take that away with you, Belinda, Thank you for calling.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
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