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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Hits Drive with Meddi and PJ. Thanks to chimis
Wee House the Real House of Fragrances and on that
Hi everyone, Happy Friday and welcome to the podcast. Coming
up on the show, Hi, coming up on the show,
I do talk about how I caught my father in
law with this pants down today and then we kind
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of got out of the break quite click because there
was a funny cliff and we're like, get out. What
would you do if you walked into a room, Ran.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I would back out immediately. I don't. I think I
would try.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
And you didn't see anything. I thought you were going
to say, record it.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I was like, igal recoil, No, you doubled down.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, yeah, you'll hear the story more coming up. But yeah,
I he was taking a p outside, which is just
very common practice for a farmer, and and then I
was driving up and then I think he might have
thought initially it was BJ, so he was he was
pretty relaxed, and he's sort of just standing there, and
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then I think he realized and he sort of turned
around and then and then it was almost like he
sort of had like a straight face. So then I
decided to break the ice because I'm always looking for,
you know, a little bit of water cooler chat. So
I go, I got the buzzard it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I will say, as a guy, there's nothing there's something
very awkward about standing at the urinal and then someone
that you know comes and stands next to you.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Because does that happen at work a lot?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, Well there's two urinals, So say I'm standing at one,
like our big boss could easily walk in and come
and stand next to me and use the other one.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
And now like I just could I could not not
look down like I actually like, like it's in my
human nature. I have to like is it really pair?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
You'd make it really awkward as well?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I know, but like there's a guy especially like okay,
you're at the nightclubs. You're at the club, and like
when people are a bit looser, like do you start
just letting your guard down? You're like, it a brows
your Nightgod.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, sometimes black people can be real cheddy. Cathy's at
the but I over a handshake after it? No, no,
but my I tend to just steer straight ahead and
then try and just ignore everything that's going around. But
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you know, sometimes.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Sometimes it would come in your preferal someone was with.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
The sometimes you know, but I but I think my
strategy is just look straight ahead, straight straight ahead, and
then I'm not tempted, and I'm not.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I don't make If someone talks to you, do you
look at.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Them straight head?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Still? God, And there's a whole new world to me.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Do you remember did I tell you the story that
I was. I was out in an event once and
I was at the urine when someone tried to take
a phono of me.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
That's that's really wrong. I was like, dude, have you
ever had a fan standing right next to you at
the Yeah, Madie McClean you, I'm a massive fan.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh not that like springs to mind. But maybe I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
They What I will say is they are awkward and
uncomfortable places, which is why often I team to just
avoid urinals if I can, and just use the store.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
The stalls, Yeah, what's a stall?
Speaker 2 (03:43):
A stall?
Speaker 1 (03:47):
What's this like a shop stall?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Like a toilet? The stalls. You're looking at me like
I'm crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
No, No, I'm not looking like if you go into
like you go.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Into the work tourilets and there's like a number of toilets. Yeah,
the cubicle that's called stalls.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Oh my god, I don't ever know. I was like,
why is there a shop?
Speaker 2 (04:15):
And can we go home? Can we go home?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Coming up? No funny, nobody is is that really common?
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Is a stall?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Toilet store?
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Bathroom stall?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
T a L L stool? I'm so sorry to get
out of here. Lets get out of here.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It's just one of those things. It's just one of
those things, you know, where it's almost like I feel
guess lit in a way because I'm like, I feel
crazy for thinking that you're crazy for not knowing it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
I'm like, oh, you're not crazy. I'm clearly the crazy one.
If any one of us is crazy, it's me.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
It would be like, to me, that is the same
as me being like a knife, and you've been like
a knife and a knife like everyone knows what a
knife is to me, And then it.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Makes you question yourself. Is okay I'm going to use that.
We come off to the still gun to do it?
Still all right? So no funny, no money coming up.
We talk about brutally honest parents.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
And also we want to know about when did you
get out of the fine? Like did you manage to
avoid a fine? Produce a Sierrah witnessed a very funny
situation today.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
That and more coming up in the podcast. Have a
great week in I'm up to read a thesaurus. We'll
see you Monday the podcast Interesting nearly nine nearly ten
past three with Medium PJ for your Friday. It's just
think quite honest with me this week?
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Give you It was just a little flat, is all
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
If there's any song I can nail, it is that
song that we've just played.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Do you want to give us a little taste of
what you're going I'm.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Not gonna know. Now you've made me myself.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
No, no, no, no, you keep singing, sing loud and proud.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Okay, it's fine because it looks like you've been here
ited this honesty. Is that right?
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Maybe I have. Maybe I've taken what happened to me
this week to heart, and I'm projecting on to other
people because it was, as I've mentioned a couple of
times on the show, despite not meant to have mentioned it,
it was my husband's birthday.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
This song.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Oh my god, you're not doing it again.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
You have to tell this story, so you.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Couldn't you just say it was a significant day.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So my husband's birthday. He didn't want me to mention it,
but I've mentioned it a couple of times now. It
was his birthday this week, and bless them, my parents
both gave Ryan a call this week to wish my
happy birthday. That's lovely. But they were in different parts,
like they were in different areas, because usually what will
happen is we'll get an early morning call from both them.
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Dad will usually just sit there silently and then mumble
door the talking what your mother said, Yeah, exactly. Honestly,
sometimes I've had forty five minute conversations with my mum
and the end I'm like, Okay, we'll see you lad
a nice a chat and she's like see it, and
then I just Dad pipes up in the background bye,
and I realized he's been on speaker phone the whole
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time and had.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
A word so difficult Dad.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Through Anyway, they were in different parts of the country
on Ryan's birthday, so Mum called him and then Dad
called him separately, and they were having a conversation, and
of course they were having a catch up, and we'd
been on our trip to Ularu last week, so Dad
was asking Ryan all about how the trip went, and
then he said to Ryan, you know that husband of yours,
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he's got many faults, many many faults, he repeated, but
he does know how to plan a holiday. And Ryan
nice the story to me, and I went, excuse me,
what what faults? What faults have I got? And why
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are they many many? Why are there many many of them?
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's exactly what my mom does. And I think like
she will always play out my faults to BJ as well.
She'll go, oh, BJ, I don't know how you put
up with Paddy. She's just so disorganized. But she'll be
so nice at the same time that she'll be like, gosh,
she's so disorganized, and then she'll be so honest about
like should we be like Paddy, I love you so much,
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but your feet are the worst. They just know how
to cut to your corner, really do.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
And I don't even think they mean to be.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Oh no, they love you more than anything, really do.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
But also I think because of that, their words are
so much more brutal than they wouldn't speak from coming
from anyone else.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Are you sure you said many many floors or it
was just bad reception?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
It was like many He said that husband of yours
has many flaws. Then he repeated many many floors.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Someone's definitely been stirring on this conversation. Oh wait, hundred
the hits. Let's open up the fine lines this afternoon.
You're not alone. I'm not alone. You can text through
four four eight seven. When were your parents brutally honest?
Maybe that didn't mean to be. They actually had the
best of intentions, but they ended up cutting real.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
D Mady and PJ Many and PJ the podcast the
Heads and we're taking your calls on the brutal honesty
that your parents doled out to you. My dad called
my husband this week and they were having a chat,
and he said, my dad said to Ryan, now that
husband of yours has many flaws, many many floors.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Maybe he just meant in your house.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
No, no, no, he meant my whole vibe. He meant
my whole personality.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
I think you you're not. No one's not flawed, but you are.
You're pretty close to perfect.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Stop that.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
But we do want to know when did your parents
story you under the bus and they came to the
table with brutal honesty? Rachel and Auckland's doing us Hi, Rachel,
what did.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
They say, okay, so, to be fair, I'm not the
most tidy person. And my mom was at our house
with me and my husband. My husband was doing the dishes,
and she was like, I am so sorry that I
didn't raise my daughter well enough to be nice and tidy,
and you're having to do the dishes right now.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Okay, So exactly the kind of thing that my mom
says to my husband as well all the time.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Do you, Rachel, do you agree with us that that
like parents in law feel like their son or daughters
in law just a God's gift to earth. I feel
like my suffering. I feel like my appearents think Ryan
is the perfect, perfect man, and God love him for
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taking me on, you know, the burden of having me
as a husband.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
My my mom was like, you better get starting better
at tidying up things. Althose he's going to divorce.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
You threats, Oh my god, that's so funny, Rachel. We've
got to help. It's about your coming your way. Rebecca's
joining us on eight hundred hats Hi, Rebecca. What was
the honesty dished out.
Speaker 5 (11:33):
Well in my my younger youth. I was a little
bit of a hussy well, and then I was talking
to my mom one day. We were just going this
conversation and I said, oh, I might just go join
the navy. Then we're arguing and I'm going to go
to the Navy, and she just stopped and looked at
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me and she goes, what is a mattress?
Speaker 6 (11:56):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Did you cut the room? Excuse me, mum, one step
too far.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I was just like, wow, Mom, you got to you
gotta give him props though, Rebecca, it's quite good.
Speaker 5 (12:16):
I still say that, and everyone's just like, wow, that's
so your mum.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Did she apologize? Did she realize?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Maybe she doesn't strike me as a woman that'll bet
down Rebecca.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
There is a new season of the herold's true crime
podcast Chasing Ghosts. The new season is called The Puppeteer
and it is all around a cereal catfish called Natalia Burgess.
The journo behind this investigation, David Fisher, is joining us
this afternoon. David, thanks so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Not a problem, Yeah, very well.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Oh my gosh, this whole topic is so fascinating to
Bettie and I. It's called The Puppeteer. The new season
that you've done, Episode three has just come out talk
to us about how this all first came about. So
in twenty eleven, you actually exposed the crimes of this woman,
that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
So back then police were investigating a case of someone
who was masquerading as a series of teenage women online
and through those masquerades she was connecting with police had said,
around forty teenage boys aged about thirteen to eighteen, and
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through those false identities, she was carrying out relationships with
these people which in a number of regards just weren't healthy.
So I'd worked out who the individual was and that
led to a series of stories over against all three
months or so and culminated in her arrest and then
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improvement for a couple of years.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
And at the time, David, this was twenty eleven, so
we didn't even really know about catfishing. It was a
very very new concept. But this woman, the things that
she did in the links that she went to were
pretty brazen.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's extraordinary how she's carried out the deceits that she has.
One of the situations that strikes me was interviewing somebody
who had spoken to the main character, Laura West and
two of her sisters, and Laura West's five year old
daughter had a phone conversation with all four of these
individuals and not realized they were the same person, just
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putting on different voices. It was incredibly elaborate elements of
what she was doing.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
But prison didn't stop her. She got out of prison
and then she continued to reoffend with all this catfishing.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
That's right, and the person whose identity she took the
end awesome Kiwi woman living in surfs Paradise by the
name of Crystal Jenner. And Crystal has had well, she says,
ten years of Natalia posing it as her or using
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her image with the false name Kaylie, and well carrying
on catfishing.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
So there's a lot more to the story obviously, David,
And you've been following it for such a long time now,
it must be fascinating to be able to put all
this together in this new podcast.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
It's amazing to me she's been doing this for twenty
three years. And when Crystal contacted me or eighteen months
or so ago so let me know that Natalie was
carrying on doing what she was doing. I went back
through my files and found audio recordings of interviews I've
done with her in twenty eleven and thought, this is
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just perfect for a podcast because one of the things
about Natalia I really enjoy engaging with her. She's got
a really bubbly personality that comes through when you speak
to her, particularly once you start peeling back the layers
of her character and understands why she does what she does.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Well, that was going to be my question, David, why
what leads people to do this to others?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Well, there's a whole host of reasons. I mean, unlike
a lot of cat fishing scams, it's not a romance
scam as such. It's certainly not a finance scam. There's
very little evidence of Natalia receiving money from any of
the individuals. Her motivations are really quite complex. When Devon said,
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she's caused, it's just extraordinary, and it was that which
really pushed us to be the show. Very often, I've
found that the reason that people believe is because of
the absence of other things in their life and come
somewhat of a leap of hope. Yeah, which is kind
of sad in itself. You know, there's aspects of her
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life that she's trying to plug and trying to fix
through doing this and she engages with people that very
often are also broken in some way.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Oh wow, David, this sounds like such a good listen.
We know there's a lot of true crime fans out there,
and particularly catfishing. It is such an interesting topic. Thank
you for creating this. And yeah, thanks so much for
coming on today.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Thanks very much, guys, Many in PJ the podcast.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
That's no funny, no money.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Stop that laugh.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
We've been in a head start, I know, but we've
been in a giggling mood this week.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
One way at last, I agree, came back from holiday
just a little more unprofessional and I'm here for it. Okay,
it's time, you know, I founding no money. If you
don't know how this works, you give us a call, Hurs,
tell us a joke, and all you need to do
is get laugh out of Many or myself.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I was just thinking. The issue is you and I
are very quick to laugh at our own jokes.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But you know, I know, and I think we we
feel the empathy of others, like if they don't get
the laugh, so you we're so quick to fill that
gap of silence. I know, but we can't be tempted
into that account.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
We're going to hold firm because we don't. We don't
have an endless supply of these chemist were house prizes
to give away.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
So please don't take you personally. If we don't laugh
at you joke, it's not that we don't like you,
it's just we've got to keep fifty dollars vouchers for
next week. So Denell is joining us this afternoon, Happy Friday, Danell.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Hi, have you got a refer of a joke? You reckon?
Speaker 7 (18:40):
I hope?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
So? Okay, all right, give it to us Denel knock knock? No,
who's there?
Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's Britney Spears.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Britney Spears.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Who who knock?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Knock?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Who's there?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Who's there?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Oop?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Did it again?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
It was the delivery. It was delivery the joke, but
the delivery was spot on.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Really, she committed to the corn. Now fifty dollars this
minuet whet house, I mean keep us weehouse coming away, Thank.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
You so much?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, Hamilton, Hamilton, Timmy is joining us. Good afternoon, Timmy, Hi, Yeah,
Hi Timmy, Hi?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:38):
What's she joke? What do you call a moose with
no name? Moose with no name?
Speaker 2 (19:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
What do you call a most with no name.
Speaker 6 (19:49):
An anonymous.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
It's a little amos thing.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Nothink for me. No, No, what did you hear of that?
Did it come across on the radio?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I think no. I think we held firm. I think
we came.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
But you were close, Timmy, Timmy, very good. If unfortunately
we don't have let that kives me health.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But thank you so much for playing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I have a good one. Okay, that wasn't It was
just a I breathe quite loudly.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It was just a brief.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, it's just a breath. Kate and Donada under their heads. Hi, Kate,
what joke have you got for us?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
Hi?
Speaker 5 (20:32):
What did the egg say to the boiling water?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
What did the egg say to the boiling water? I
don't know what did it say?
Speaker 5 (20:41):
I don't know if I can get hard. I only
got late this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
We've got a fifty dollars kiss house coming away.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
Thank you, you.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Got us many and the podcast.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
A bit of a situation this morning with you. I'd
love to know how you acted, how you would act
if you were in this situation. So I decided to
get my wholesome farm wife on and put a baker
batch of muffins all BJ my husband and his workers,
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because he had quite a few people out on the
farm today. They were doing docking, and I was like, oh,
this is my opportunity. It's a beautiful day, the sun
is shining. I'm going to come along with some banana
chocship muffins and look like a hero.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Now. Famously, baking for BJ has not gone well in
recent months.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Yes, it often ends up very charged. Can I tell you?
Today they were cooked immaculately, nailed it to perfection? Are
you talking about early that I have to do because
basically we have a fire of it, and so it's
literally cooking under a fire, so you just got to
go in and out. And they cooked so quickly okay,
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and they weren't raw either, like the better, wasn't weir
like that? We was good?
Speaker 7 (22:15):
Good to go.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Anyway, I get him Bjay's yet and I'm driving out
the container of muffins, and to be honest, I didn't
know where they were on the farm, so I was like,
please be close by. And then I'm driving up the
lane on the on the farm and I see what
looks like Bej's dad from Afar. But what I see
him doing is rather incriminating. What has pants are down?
(22:45):
He's taken away right, totally normal on the farm. That's
just what I want to do, right, But I just
continued driving. I probably should have, just like, I mean,
I don't know what the right thing to do in
that situation would be. Should I have just stopped and
turned around, or should I have just continued and then
said high and pretend I didn't see anything. Instead, when
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I saw him, I was like, I gotcha.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Your father in law with his pants around his ankles.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
He pulled them up by this point, but I was like,
it's just gonna be the elephant in the room, like
purely he really Maddy.
Speaker 7 (23:26):
And PJ Mady and PJ the podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
It's so hard to keep up with everything on the internet.
I do try sometimes and then other times I just
surrender and give up.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
Remember we remember we decided. You know you've crossed over
that line when you just start saying I just don't
get it.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
And that just feels like us every.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Week, daily, I would say daily.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
So at the moment, you may have seen a lot
of people on social media thinking Beyonce going, thank you
Beyonce for the most mundane of things, even like companies
have gone in the Max so Ryan here, which is
like a budget airline overseas even had a cheeky dig
and this is some people will be like, hey, what's
(24:12):
she going on? Like why are companies getting involved with this?
I tried to do some deep diving. I'm probably gonna
ruin it. Producer Sarah has been deep in the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
And whole This is where I thank god we have
someone who's on that gen Z Millennial cor welcome who
can fill us in on everything something.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
To the show. They can translate quickly, promptly.
Speaker 7 (24:35):
This used to be me.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I used to be this person.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Okay, now I'm married. I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Yeah, and I'm making those noises as they get up
off the couch, you.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Know, Okay, so give it to us. Sarah was actually going.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
On, so this is all over TikTok. There's a conspiracy
theory saying that if you're an artist and you don't
bank Beyonce and your acceptance speech, if you beat her
at something like the VMA's or the Grammys or whatever,
that she.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Will hunt you down all that bad things will things
will happen.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Because there've been a number of artists over the year
so there was like Lizzo.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
Yeah, a doubt, and then obviously there was infamous Kanye
West interrupting Taylor Swift at the two thousand and nine
VMAs going I'm.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Gonna let you finish. But Beyonce one of the best
videos of all time.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
And people are now saying that that incident, which obviously
changed the prajictory of her career, that that incident was
him protecting her quote marks from palm.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Come on, it's all too much. It's too much.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I just assumed to Beyonce, it was just like that
icon't that everyone locked up to in the music industry.
But they're alluding to the fact that she has a
lot of power. And if you don't thank Queen be
up on stage, then something might happen to you.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Thanks for letting me come in to talk about this,
but I do want to thank Beyonce as.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Well, just for talking about on behalf of that.
Speaker 9 (26:00):
I've got to speak on here today and.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Can you do that on behalf of our whole show? Yeah,
we love you.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Hey, just quickly while we are talking entertainment news, because
something very very exciting to come out today. We were
talking about nobody wants this the other day, the show
with Adam Brody and Kristin Bell. This one here, here's
your friend. There is not a Jewish bone in her
body unless you put one in her show. You're the rabbit.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
It's hot, right.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
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you as his friend. It is such a good show.
It is so easy to binge. And Netflix has just
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But it has been confirmed that we're going to get
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exciting getting get into the week kids.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
Mady and PJ. Mady and PJ the podcast.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I remember the other day, I was telling you that
two lessons arrived in our mailbox addressed to my husband Ryan,
and they were two parking fines that he had received.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, and you paid them straight away, which you don't
usually do.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
So unlike me, very very unlike me. But I just
thought I'm gonna take I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna
deal with this, and I'm gonna take it on the
chin because you know, sometimes you attempted to go are
you cheeky buggers? I'm gonna I'm gonna right, what are
you going to do? Contest this? But I didn't. I
just thought, no, we'll get them paid out of side,
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out of mind, done and dustin. But I do love
the idea of people trying their best to actually get
out of fines.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
I would love to know the percentage rate of attempts
versus being successful of actually getting out of one.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Off the top of my head, I reckon it's like
ninety five to five attempts five success.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
Well, something happened to produce a Sarah today. She witnessed
in a cafe. This is crazy, this woman in her
way that she attempted to get out of a fine.
I don't think this will work.
Speaker 9 (28:14):
So I was sitting in a cafe and out the
glass window I saw this lady pull up and park
over a driveway and some yellow lines. She came into
the cafe and then a parking warden appeared and he
went over to her vehicle, and I was like tossing up, like,
should I go over to her? She was at the
counter ordering. I was like, should like go tell her?
And then she decided to leave. She walked out, didn't
order anything, runs over to her car, sees the parking
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warden starting to write a ticket, so she ran and
just hopped in the car. She didn't talk to him,
reversed out and he printed the ticket on his little machine,
and he walked over to her to her window, like
here you go, hand out. She went and just shook
her head and drove off. And I was sitting there like, hello, hello,
you can't just shake gars.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
And she's still gonna get that, like you s that
in the mad.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I love the idea though, that she was sitting in
a car going no, no, I'm not accepting this. Thank you,
as if that was going to be enough, like of
a deterrent. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
I want a hundred of the hats. Have you had
success because maybe there was a legitimate reason why you
could get out of it, or maybe you did get
a little creative and you were lit off the fuck.
I waite hundred of hats. You can text four for
eight seven. We can keep you anonymous. Did you get
out of a fine.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Or maybe you work in a department where, yes, you
have to deal with fines. What are some of the
creative ways would shake of the head no, no, no
and a drive off? Actually were.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Surely not.
Speaker 7 (29:51):
Maddy and PJ. Madi and PJ the podcasts.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
We're asking about the creative ways that you actually manage
to get off a ticket. Producer Sarah saw a woman
in a cafe today just shake your head, no, no, no,
and drive off as the parking warden was trying to
hand to her a ticket.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
She's going to get a rude surprise in the mail.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
And they know my adress. And the thing is, if
you're the parking warden, surely you're going you checky back out.
I'm going to uplight. It was going to be a
twelve dollar fine. Now it's a forty dollar fine.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Surely is that? Do you reckon? That's another offense on
top of it? Might be it might be disobedience. All right,
oh one hundred the hat so you can tax four
for eight seven? How did you get out of a fine?
And he's joining us, good.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
A and e.
Speaker 6 (30:37):
Hello my friends, holore we oh.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
We're very well.
Speaker 6 (30:41):
Happy Friday, Yeah, happy Friday to you.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
So what happened? What was the story?
Speaker 8 (30:47):
So about a year or.
Speaker 6 (30:49):
So ago, we had stopped at my local coffee shop
to get a coffee, and we're like a little bit
over the yellow line of the neighboring business. So I
ran and got the coffee. I came back out. My
wife was in the castle with the kids. Said the
neighbor would come out and take the photos of our car.
I was like, oh, random. So about a week later,
we got a ticket in the in the post and
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I was like, this is ridiculous. So I went to
the coffee coffee shop and the owner there was like, oh,
stuffed them. So she wrote a letter back to the
council saying that I'd run in with my choking child
and sat there at the time.
Speaker 8 (31:24):
She helped me.
Speaker 6 (31:24):
She helped me to get there, stop my child from choking,
and then they let me off the fine.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I love.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
I love that she was willing to go that far
for someone that she doesn't. Does she know you well,
Andy A you are regular?
Speaker 6 (31:39):
Yeah, I'm a regular.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Love I love the coffee there.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
So now she got you off a fine, you'll be
going there forever.
Speaker 6 (31:49):
It was awesome. I couldn't believe she's got on the
offer amazing along black.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Someone sicks us. I was going not even either, ten
k over the speed limit, got pulled over and it's
my first ever time. So I lied, I said I
had just saw gart and I was about to put
my brains out. She looked at me, rolled her eyes
and said, drives slow. And next time I thought, I
got out of it. And then a week later fine
came in the mail.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I love it that one so many time. I love
this one as well. Back in England, my dad tried
to get out of a red light fine by saying
he'd never seen the traffic lights before. The rony was
we lived about one hundred meters from a seat of
traffic lights.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Oh that'll get your peter, oh hundred the hats How
did you get out of a fine?
Speaker 8 (32:30):
Well, the only two parking fines that we were heading
my life and quite a long career of driving. The
first one I actually hd my own pack and a
parking lot just across where a road road from where
I worked, and some bagger was in it. So I
ended up packing running outside my office and then and
there and came out a little bit later on here
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and I take it on the window and was in
the good old days where they were he in written,
And I sort of was a little bit peeved off
of beout it because I thought, in case I read
the thing and it was written the packing warden here
and Grisbond had the exact same name as as myself.
What are the chances, I mean, to the local council
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and try to get off that thing? And I said, look,
here's this packing ticket. It's been issued by Peter Miller.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Peter Miller.
Speaker 8 (33:19):
Why the hell would I write a ticket to.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Let you off?
Speaker 8 (33:25):
And LA see if you can prove that your your
name is Peter Miller, well you can walk free, so
to speak. So I got out some idea and gave
it to him.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I said, a lot of the chan that is amazing, love,
well done.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
Never let me do it again.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
I don't know. That was definitely a once in a
lifetime situation. But hey, thank you so much for your call.
We've got to help. Pet's about your coming your way, okay,
loverree Bill's edition is coming up. News Okay, okay, no,
thank you, just okay.
Speaker 7 (34:06):
Maddy and PJ. Maddy and PJ the podcast, This the
People's Poll, The People's Poll. Everybody comes together.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
It's the People's Poll.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
It's time for the People's polls. Don't forget you can
vote every day. We put up the poll on our
Instagram story, The Hits Drive with Maddy and PJ. Would
you like to elaborate on today's poll.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
I remember when I was younger and I'd see my
parents battle with their friends over who was going to
pay for drinks or dinner and stuff whenever we went out.
And I remember as a kid just not understanding the concept.
I was like, why would you if someone else is
offering to pay, why would you fight them? Let me pay?
Speaker 3 (34:48):
You know.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
But then as you get older, obviously you realize that
in a turmoil over who's going to pay for these things.
And I caught up with a good friend of mine
today who's just returned home from overseas. Now. She invited
me out for a coffee and we just had a
coffee each. So it wasn't a big light lunch, or
it wasn't a lot, so the bill was small. And
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so then we got to the end of the coffee
and we went up to the counter and we had
this little tussle with our cards as to who was
going to pay for the coffee, and I ended up
getting in. You know, I got in quick with my cards,
so I.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Whose card beats verse?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
But then as I left, I thought, well, is there
like a hard and fast rule? You know, she was
the one that asked me out for a coffee, so
is it her obligation as the invite her to pay
or because I'm like, because I'm there as her guest,
am I meant her? Am I obliged to pay for
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the coffee? Or do you just split it right down
the middle and avoid all that awkward.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
My gut instinct as the split, and then it really
just comes down to who's feeling the most generous on
the day. I think that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
Like.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
I wouldn't say that if you invite someone to go
out for coffee with you, you were obligated to pay
for them. No, no, I don't. I don't think that's
the case. I would always tend to opt for the split.
But if I'm feeling like it's just been paiday, or
I'm a little extra boogie, I'll be like any opportunity to.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
Be a hero, seem I always try and be the hero,
and but then sometimes it backfires because there is a
friend of mine. Oh I think for the last three times. No, no, no, no,
neither of you. No a friend of mine for the
last three times I've paid, But There've been long times
in between coffees, and I'm like, maybe they have forgotten
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that I have paid for the last few coffees.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
But because usually the rule is if you pay once,
then they'll take the next next.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, yeah, so is my question as I was leaving,
was is there a hard and fast rule about who
pays the inviter the invitee or do you just split
it right down the middle.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Okay, what are your thoughts so you can text through
your answers now for today's People's Poll to four four
eight seven, all weigh in on Instagram page The Hats
Drive and Madi and PJ will reveal the results next.
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Madi and PJ the podcast.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
That the Deep Pole's Poll, the Big Pol's Poll. Everybody
comes together, it's the People's Poll.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
It's always an awkward topic who pays the bill? Specifically
after something Mady went through with a friend today.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, I got asked out for a coffee with a
friend and then we got to the end of the
coffee and it was that whole awkward tussle of who
pays for this? She invited me, so does she pay?
Do I pay because I'm the invite? Or do you
just avoid the awkwardness and split it right down the middle.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
A lot of texts coming through on four four eight seven.
Just because you ask some of a coffee doesn't mean
you have to pay. It's like a catch up. I
agree with that. I don't think there's any obligation if
you ask that you have to shout. I like this one.
If it's a date, the invited pays, friends, you pay
your own. Yeah, it's quite an interesting take.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Someone said, I say split. There is always that one
friend in any group who is the main organizer, and
they would end up paying the majority of the time
if you went by the who invites pays rule, which
makes perfect sense.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
Yeah, there's sort of the general consensus on the text.
I don't think because you organize it, you should pay. They
might be useless arranging things, so I'm usually the one
who arranges things, but I work around other people. Look
at the overall percentage, I'm really fascinated.
Speaker 2 (38:27):
What if people say seventy six percent of people said
just splitter. Avoid the awkwardness. Just pay for your own coffee.
Twenty one percent, though, said yeah, the person who invited
you should pay for the coffee, and only three percent
said the invited inviting?
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Are the invitinges off the hook? Yeah this sweet as.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Well.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
There you go, The People's poll for another day. If
you've got any suggestions for what we should tackle next week,
you can text them through to four four eight seven
many MP, the podcast
Speaker 2 (38:57):
That