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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Radio darkis Off the Record podcast with Matt
and Jeremy Wells.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh Michael, how are you bro?
Speaker 1 (00:11):
All right?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Good? Thanks good man, and welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Mike hall X, voice of ex Voice of Radio Hodaki.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Oh yeah, man, that's I don't want to relitigate. But
how about yesterday bespokey.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Behind the curtain at the advertising industry.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I know, it's like it was about a whole bunch
of my life and I wasn't even there.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Do you know what I thought you were above that?
You know, I thought that you were operating an initial
on above being the moron or the person who knows
a whole lot of things. I thought you've I've never
heard you play a moron or a or a non
You're normally operating as a corporate voice, so just you're
in a higher bracket I would have thought.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I mean, I appreciate that, but I've been definitely in
the moron zone.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
You've done that before.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
I've done that yelly sort of thing, you know, where
you're like trying to sell a wheatst record or something.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Oh yeah, okay, specific.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, I remember.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Yeh screaming like or your I mean I also speak Japanese,
so sometimes it would be like Japanese Japanese anime or something,
and you'd be like, you know, like sort of full
high pitch guy. There's been a bit of moron stuff,
but yeah, I'm really I really enjoyed that. That Yesterday's
reflection on the.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Voiceover industry well funny funny because there's about probably thirty
people that did and they're all voiceover.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I've always mean to ask you a question. You were
the voice of a tel com on when you rang up,
wouldn't you for a while.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
I feel like you still because I just had you
two days ago.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
You're not supposed to talk about it, but yes, I
mean I'm the third best voiceover on my street in
Green Lynn. I think so I got that gig. I mean,
that's the joke, isn't it. That there's like you sort
of don't really have any confidence as a voiceover, but
you get the work and you're like, maybe I should
feel good about myself, but you're just a voice monkey.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Oh, Mike, you've got a great want.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
There's a warmth to Yeah, warmth.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
To what you say. That's that's worth worth worth a lot.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
That's very kind. I mean there was a time I
think there was a golden patch. If I reflect, there
was a golden patch where it was like I sort
of went, there was a whole bunch of stuff I'd done,
And I guess that's what I'm saying is like, if
you can go ten years back and you go, were
you the voice of this? Yeah? It was how are
you the voice of the way House?
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah it was that.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Were you in? Yeah it was that? And then you go,
what does it all mean? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Sometimes it would mean there were three TV ads in
a row with your voice on them.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, But ultimately I think it's great. It pays the
bills so you can do the other cool stuff. Yeah,
that's the voice of it.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Do you not considered Do you not consider it a
The word trade is not quite right, but a skill
in the sense that it's something that you learn over
time and you're always adding to it. What's the word
I don't want? It's not trade. It's something else, and
it's kind of like trade, but essentially there isn't artistry
(03:02):
to it. Do you not consider it that? Do you
do you think it's just kind of something that you
don't want to talk about?
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Well, there was the time that your reference where it's
like in about nineteen ninety eight, they went, we want
to step away from the guys that talk like this.
Yeah to oh just talk like you're talking to your
mate in the bar. But I'm selling like a handsaw
or something. I'm not going to do that in the bar.
At that stage, I think there wasn't a huge amount
(03:28):
of skill. But I think I think the skill is
like reading ahead, or being able to be directed, being
able to make a dick yourself and not worry about it.
I'm quite sad at that. That's hard. Oh you see,
that's a skill of mine. So maybe there is a skill,
like a learning. Maybe there is. I mean that's a question.
I don't have the answer to that.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, do you reckon? How much do you reckon? Of
being a successful voice artist? Is actually taking ego out
of it?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Huge, huge, And I think that's where some actors struggle.
You know. So the actors go in and they're like,
give me my motivation? Who am I? What's you know?
Where is this in my life? As like, mate, you're
just you're actually just selling pens. Yeah, so just read
it as fast as you can. It's forty words. It's
fifteen seconds. If you can't get the job down, get out.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
I used to like, because I do a lot of
voice work here and there, and I used to prepare
and that was a disaster because you'd go in with
an idea in your head. So like when your agent
sends you the script, now, I will never read it
because otherwise I'll go in and I'll and I'll have
a decision that I've made. And you just got to
wait to be humiliated by both the everyone from the
(04:34):
ad agency and then the client that comes in and
humiliates you, and then someone that's bringing the sushi comes
in to humiliate you.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
And the sushi is never for you. There's always lunch
for everybody else. You're like, oh, you're in the Hey,
I'm good. Yeah, I'm not even hungry. Yeah I'm not.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Like you're standing in the booth and people start doing
their orders and there they're on the menus and they go, oh,
do you think I might get the salid? I'm standing there,
So there is a little bit of humiliation totally, and
it's really bad if you're in a if you're not
feeling it and you're looking forward to light and then
you look down in your book for two hours and
you're like, I can't do two hours.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
No, two hours is a big session. I once did
the thing with Michael Morrissey, and I haven't done I
used to do voice over. It's quite a lot of voices,
and then I sort of stopped doing them. I started
doing stuff for Meridian, and part of the deal was
I couldn't do things for anyone else, so I stopped
doing them. But after during that time, Michael Morrissey came
in and did some stuff for us. And he's a
(05:33):
famous he was the telecom guy that went please hold
the lane. He's got that really kind of nice, beautiful,
beautiful voice. Anyway, very very successful voiceover artist. And I
watched him come in and do some voice over, and
he did it a really interesting thing. It was a performance.
I realized it was a full performance. He was playing
the role of this person, this voiceover person, but he
(05:56):
had complete control of the script when he walked in.
He went and he did this whole thing, and he
put his headphones on and he told the audio engineer
to do some things. Just don't need more in the
blah blah blah blah blah, blah, and then he read it,
read the script, and then he goes and then he
goes take two, and then he goes blah blah, blah blah,
and he read it, and then he goes, I'll give
(06:16):
you a third take and read it slightly differently, and
he goes take four and then did it like four
takes and then goes, hell are those And immediately you
go you've got four takes that they're slightly different, but
each one perfect in its own way. And at that
point like good luck coming back and saying oh, actually maybe,
but he just took complete charge of it, and I thought, oh,
(06:39):
that's a good that's a that's how you want to
do it. That's experience right there on.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
The day in Queenstown with the new man in their life.
Turns out to be quite a revelation.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Does that happened?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Yep? The proposal a whole new way of falling in
love that's.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
The nicest pipes. And then you find yourself in a
gig where you're the voice for radio or something like that,
and then you're basically given a whole bunch of stuff
to sing maybe ye know, and then you're like, what
is what is this?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Happened. We got you to sing a lot of our
comedy numbers.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I mean, it was a glorious time. Devin Conway. I'll
never forget doing Fleetwood Mac and finally realizing just how
high Lindsay bucket.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
And that's a tough one because the harmonies are so
the four part armies are so.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Hard, and also because you wanted to really give like
really proper reverence to Devin Conway. I don't want to
mess that up. At the time, he'd just come onto
the scene, he'd got all those big runs. He was
like our kind of light, and you know, it was like, Okay,
Williamson is going to have somebody with him now, you know,
So I want to make up that song.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And you know, well, speaking of music, obviously you you
are also a musician and you've got it. You've got
an album out and and of course you were in
Pluto and you've been a musician for a very long time.
And we've just listened to a song actually before. Very
very nice, thanks, very very very nice.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Beatley, Well, yeah, I mean you guys talked about the
Beatles a couple of days ago. It's like, yeah, I guess,
I guess there's been a few people that have said
that about the album. I mean, I think I first
I met you guys first through music, you know, like
I was on BFM and the nineties doing a show
ninety four or something, and we probably played gigs together. Yeah,
(08:29):
and Balance and other Pluto and things like that. So yeah,
I haven't really I haven't really stopped, but I just
stopped releasing releasing my own music, or Pluto's sort of
slowed down. So a lot of these songs are songs
that might have gone to the Pluto team. Yeah, we
might have gone, oh that's school, Oh that's rubbish. But
I was like, I'm just gonna put them out, you know,
nice and good.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
We're about huge report.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
So I did it with Joel m'holland at the Oven,
which is in the Lab Studios under Crystal Palace Theater
and this kind of like amazing sort of underground a
dance hall back in the fifties and sixties.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Is there still a giant picture of a wolf down there?
Speaker 3 (09:07):
On what if there is a wolf? Maybe I'm not
looking hard enough. I'm usually like totally in there in
the zon of taking a ship with those guys.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
It's funny because he's just just just yesterday, just yesterday,
I got a message on Instagram from someone that was
recording an album at the lab with Olie and and
he was doing the s guy was doing a solo
in the studio and he was and he was he
was talking. He's messaged me because Ollie said, this is
where you recorded a couple of your albums. And and
I just the lab. Just I just took me all
(09:36):
the way back to the lab.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
What killed great spots? Like you know in Yeah, they've
uncovered all these old photos of all the people that
go into dancers in the sixties, like these young people
dressed up so beautifully and lovely suits and dresses and
you know, going to the dance to watch live music.
And yeah, there's a kind of there's a history there.
It brings out the best in you because it's a
(09:57):
cool vibe. And Joel's room is so John Holm has
produced a whole bunch of stuff. He's really good made
of mind.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
We had him in here just the other day.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
To talk about those Beatles shows or something or yeah,
those cover of shows.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
He laid down a challenge to me because I lost
this hard drive blah, blah blah with a whole bunch
of songs on it and yeah, sort of heartbreaking moment.
And he was like, oh, nobody was going to hear
those songs anyway, so what are you moaning about? And
I was like sort of screw you, buddy, and yeah,
and then he was he goes, well record them with me,
and I was like, no thing, will do it then.
So it was like a sort of like this kind
(10:34):
of challenging thing. But then when we actually did them,
I was like, ah, I think I probably should put
them out. Yeah, it's pretty satisfying. It's more satisfying than
I thought too. I mean, I didn't even think I'd
come to talk to you guys about putting a record
out right, unless it was like a Pluto song or something.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
Yeah, So how long had you been like in terms
of the songs on the album? How what's the what's
the oldest idea for the song that you on the album? Like,
how long you been thinking about it?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
For I wrote a song back in about twenty fourteen
that's on the record. Because they write songs. Maybe it's
like you met he write songs for fun a little
bit late. Oh sorry, thanks mash.
Speaker 5 (11:14):
Again.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
For you.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's great to see that when I was working here
a few years aback, that she's still in their endtern
zone with those kind of you know, it.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Helps the wage cost of our Yeah, it's kind of
like the friend zone, the intern zone.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
I was about to go into full fast guitars mode
and talk about you know, the guitarring.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
But that's cool, No, please do that's actually what I
want to hear.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
To be fair, it feels actually quite strange because when
you first came in here about four years ago, when
you first came in here, when I first came in
here about four years.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Six months ago something. I remember that it's not four
years ago.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
So excited I got to record Mike doing the voiceover
when you used to do the voice for Radiohardache. You
used to be the corpor voice a radio Heardeche. And
I'm being very excited. So it's a real full sickle
moment talking to you now. And now we get to
ned out about guitars.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
Well, we forgot to applaud you because when never Mike
walks into a room, people alawed and with your.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Got oh that's me here, because we're mad.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
We were a mad pod and this and so there's
just a little little thing that people do when you
walk in your room, people applaud.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I really loved that about working here. I've got to say,
like it was actually awesome. What happened was it was
about it was Mike Lane's second week here, and I
walked in and I'd had a rough morning at home
with my kids or something. And I walked in and like,
Mike goes, how I And I'm like, you know, at
least you get a rest when you die or something
like that. I said something like that, sort of dad
(12:34):
kind of like, it's a bat fuck this morning. Somebody
didn't eat this kid left with a one shoe or
whatever it was, you know. And then like I came
out of the session I've been in with with Cres
and I came out and I was and and they
Mike goes, mate, you got a minute. And I was like, yeah,
of course, and he goes everything all right, and I
was like, oh, good on your mate. Yeah I'm fine.
(12:56):
He goes, oh, I just you know what you said,
And I'm like, oh, I'm looking. I'm not gonna I'm
not going to go and kill myself. I so appreciate
your concern anyway, he goes, great, so we'll see you
next week. And I was like, yeah, yeah, you'll see
me next week. So I went away and then I
came back Wednesday eleven o'clock every single week and I
walk in the door and Mike Lane goes ladies and
gentlemen like all and the entire officer up to including
(13:22):
people from Flavor, We're going, what this Who was this
regular looking geezy?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
You know, it's such a good tradition to have just
started like that.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It happened a single time for five and a half
years where I walk in the door, maybe six years.
I got applauded every single time I came to voice.
Speaker 5 (13:43):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
I looked forward to it as like don't worry Wednesdays
around the kilner And.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
That's that's not something that's ever happened for anyone else. No,
it's only you.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
You get booed, you know the corporate voice over at
the hits, Mike, is that right? Do you get Do
you get a clap over the heads?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Are you doing?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
There's no clap.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
It's there's no clap. The het no clap. It's so
classic of John and Ben. Yeah, yeah, it's always a prank.
You know they know that you expect the clap, so
the whole thing is are prank but they're not claip back.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I have actually noticed them when I go up there,
like I'm just waiting with their hands. I'm like that,
there's nothing. It's remote.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Oh that's just that's strike two for those guys. They're
on strike two.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, it's the other striking your music. John. You threw
a few strays at John No for no reason when
I know you love them.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Strike there's strike one. There's a strike two for me.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Hey, Michael, before you go, were you did you run
vocals on the glass Barbie tune?
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Is that you? I'm trying to remember because there is
this I'm going to crank this up. That's not you.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Can we have a listen to as you or not?
Because I found that divin calm?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
Who is there? No know who?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
That is that Tom Harper?
Speaker 4 (15:01):
That's that's Tom Harper's mate from christ Church?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yes? Is that from before that?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
That was just none of those None of those songs
are on your album.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
A cover of glass. When are you guys putting that
on vinyl? I mean that's the responsibility of Mike Lane,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
That's exactly the type of thing that that's exactly the
type of thing that Mike Lane will waste his time on.
It has been six months on that, yeahy, So how.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Can people get your album? And and and gives the deats?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
It's on all the streaming places and I've.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Got a physical copy of it.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Yeah, I've got Vinyl band Camp. Just check out Mike Hall, like,
I mean, there's heaps of us. There's a slightly overweight
trombone player from America with a pretty decent go to
He's not me.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And Darryl Hall.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Of course that's that. He's not you either.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
No, that might well, No, I wish it was my dad.
My dad's Derek. Yeah, close.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Though I always assumed that you were related to Darryl Hall.
I knew you had nothing to do with it. I
knew you had nothing to do without cree Boats. I
knew you wouldn't go down to Oats, But I always
thought there was a bit of Daryl Hall in you.
So what's the copy right situation? Could we could we
in the pod just by playing dragon around song?
Speaker 4 (16:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:23):
I mean that's fine with me. I don't know what
your license with the performing rights organizations are no.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I'm sure you'll get paid. Send me the check. Here
you go, Michael, Mike, thanks for coming to.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Mike, Thanks for the chats. The lot on in the padic.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Damnage of the house is breaking.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
Hearts the Manson.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
He continue with the.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Fiatious and the percies, fear lab was the hard to
Feel food Gold.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And the screaming.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Down the hollow.
Speaker 6 (17:20):
For the copy from and Dune.
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Stop dragging Meround, Stop dragging me around, Stop dragging Meraun.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
That's a sun which winsor which wisden? We stand and still.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Just swallen my head, dream.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
Scarf plaspack to the strees. Stop dragging Mira, start dragging.
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Speaker 3 (18:47):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
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