July 24, 2024 • 18 mins
Barnaby Weir from The Black Seeds and Fly My Pretties has a new project called Trips, he and colab Andy Christiansen called up for a chat about the debut album and their shared history going back two decades.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Radio Hold Our Keys Off the Record podcast
with Angelina Gray.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We are joined by great New Zealander Barnaby Ware, who
you'll know is the mastermind of Fleam Pritty's, the frontman
for the Black Seeds side projects Flash Harry, among others,
and today releasing a brand new album, Trips, which is
a side project between him and Andy Christiansen Day, Barnaby,
can you tell us that all the stories, the details
how this all began.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The long and the short of it is that Andy
was in the Black Seeds for a while. They're on
trumpet and he's a very talented dude. He had done
some recording later on, this is ten years later, he
had done some recording recordings and we were both living
in part up at Umu region Company Coast and raising
our young young children, our babies, and you know, we
(00:51):
just got talking about these songs that he had and
we got together on a weekend and we banged out
some demos and we were just, you know, we're very
opinionated musician type people, and we just wanted to focus
on some great songwriting and see if we could build
a recording project. Yeah, and Trips was born out of
that and Andy's the kind of guy I can kind
(01:13):
of be there having a beer and I'm saying blay this,
blay this, now do that, and he can just do it,
you know. So it was kind of came together quite quickly,
and then we've collaborated with different vocalists and it's taken
a few years, but we're here now on release day
and we are loving it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, we're gonna check out the first single shortly, but
before we do that, I just kind of want to
get a little insight for the fact of I mean,
europeusy guys he said, young family, between black Seeds, Flummer Pretties,
all that kind of thing. Was it a labor of
love more so that right, we're gonna release this and
go out and take over the will.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, it was. It was very much, you know, labor
of love. We hope that people will just you know,
get involved and check it out. There's a bit of
variety on a nine track album, sounds really really fat,
and we just we're just really kind of pumped about it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I'm going to tap my hats, well, my hats
off rather to Andy because obviously you're on vocals, and
Andy obviously does a lot more than just playing the trumpet.
I see here drums, guitar, keys, bass, guitar. So are
you like the musical director or is it more of a.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
That's embarrassing?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Now he's awesome and you see, you know he do
things like it's so great to meet with because he's funny.
One yeah, and he has a has a good attitude.
But he can get you can get it done as
well and make it sound really fat. So you know,
one one, if you play wave of My Flow, which
you might play, you know he's just he just does
the whole drum take by himself to a click track
(02:37):
without any instrumentation at all and gets it all right,
and about take two or three, and then you just
sit in there going cool. Now you should play bass,
and now I shoul play guitar, and now I shoul
play keyboards, and now you know, so yeah, what a
joy to work with.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
All right, Well, let's give me a taste of key
we it's brand new trips called away My Flow on
a brand new for trips on Hodarky. It's way have
my flow with but to beware from trips. Well it
begs the question with a name like trips, we're talking
kind of psychedelic I don't know, going on a journey
(03:10):
type deal, what's what's the idea exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, we're talking about three things.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Like you know, when you get trips in a poker hand,
you've got three of the same kind, so that's quite
a good hand and if you get another two you
have a full house.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Right, So trips is that yep.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Taking LSD is also or mushrooms is also part of
the psychedelic kind of approach.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
And then going on a journey.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So it's all those kind of three things, like you're
feeling lucky, you're going on a journey. You don't have
to be on drugs at all. It's just that we're
enjoying what's around the corner. And I think that, you know,
part of the time that we made this was lockdown
COVID times ah, and so you want to get outside
and do stuff and you know you might not have
been able to, and you want to be social and
(03:51):
so some of some of the you know, sentiment behind
some of the tracks, you know, comes from a bit
of frustration of that too, being maybe a bit lockdown
with your babies and that as well, And so there's
a sense of freedom, you know, and a sense of
whether it's going on on a car ride, like a
car trip, putting us on your playlist basically, yes, and
(04:11):
enjoying your holiday or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
This is.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
This is speaking to me, Bannabee, because you know what
it's like raising a young family, so you would be
this awesome. And I see you've got old mate from
Black Seeds, Daniel Whetman doing some vocals as well.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Sure we do.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He's on two tracks that are you know, kind of psychedelic,
kind of rocky and a bit of funk in there. Yeah,
he's sounding really good. And it's also awesome to hear
down in a different context too because lyric really is
really quality and his voice is quality, and so that's
just great hearing outside of the Black Seeds, not just
(04:47):
to the Black Seeds because we love them, but you know,
outside of that, it's just it's just flexing a different
artistic muscle, you know, with Black Seeds. We're about to
release some new dubs, a dub album based off the
Love and Fire album which we released in.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Twenty two, so that's coming out. We're still you know, going.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well in playing gigs and we can on an album
eight studio album.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wow, that's insane because I think the last time I
saw you guys, it probably would have been at the
Dunedin Beerfest, like coming up two years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Good good, I love that one. Yeah, that was a
good one.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
On that point, Did you know that it's twenty It
is more than twenty years that On the Sun was released. Yeah,
we are going to come out with a deluxe edition
double vinyl of that Choys album so in Yeah, so
that'll be you know, look this way, you know, chick it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Out, check out the news.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think it'd be rude not to play something from
that album on the Sun twenty years old. It's the
Black Seeds, We're gonna beware fire, Hodaky Real early Flemy
Pritties on twelve o'clock rock Bag of Money and I'm
with the guy that wrote that soon bna be weird.
Do you remember where how you wrote that song? If
(05:57):
you cast you mind back, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Think it was just like a bit of a like
you know how musicians are quite poor often and it's
kind of like have you seen my bag of Money?
And it was just a little catchy thing that I
wrote when I was at my radio active days of
it actually I'm not just name dropping here, but literally
Brett McKenzie played drums on that first demo of it,
(06:19):
and then I bought it out on a bit later
in two thousand and three or whatever for fly my Pretties.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Live at that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So it's a bit of a gag. Have you seen
my bag of money? I left it in the parlor,
you know, because if you find a big of money, please.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Give it to me, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And it just kind of was one of those things
that caught on over the years, which is a bit
kind of catchy and silly, and kids love it and
adults kind of love it, and it still goes down
well when I get a chance to play it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I love the fact that Ease would parlo in it too,
because I feel like the days of parlors are almost
behind us. The idea of a parlor is dispaired.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I wish I had a parlor, and I don't have
a parlor. Man Like, I like the baseline, So I
guess I guess the team came together the baseline which
I wrote, and then put the lyrics on top of
the groove the parlor. Actually, if I know, may just
indulge a week on that kind of mock tudor kind
of house with someone playing bass, and it's playing it
in quite a you know, old school fashion Elizabethan era baseline.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I don't want if the existed then, but.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Now I'm going to listen to that in a whole
new light, with the whole new vision in my head.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Brilliant black headed black Head on basse.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, well, hate Barnaby, thank you so much for chatting
to us. We can we go if we're looking for
info on Trips or what you're up to socials.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yes, so it's just Trips band on Facebook and Instagram
and you'll see it. You'll see me there, you'll see
what we're up to.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
It won't be hard hard to track us down, all.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Right, I shall be. I should be stalking the socials.
Thank you so much, bunmy thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Radio hodar Keys off the Record.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Podcast with Let's have a Chat with Trips cureder Andy.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Hey, how you go?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Man?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Really well, thanks, it's great to have you on Radio Hedaky.
Not for the first time, I guess, because we've played
tunes from the Black Seeds over the years. You're not
in that band anymore. You've started up a new thing
called trips. But if we just go back to the beginning,
where'd you grow out? Where are you from?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
In the Bayer plenty? My dad gave me a trumpet
when I was three, crank that for I studied it.
I went to university, studied jazz trumpet, got the opportunity
to do a Black Seeds gig when I was I
think it was eighteen. It was just a filling for
the trumpet player at the time, and then joined the
band when I was twenty. So yeah, that's where I
(08:39):
grew up and that's what I did when I was
a kid, was just playing music, played trumpet.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
And you toured the world with the Black Seeds. I
remember seeing you guys in Wales once in a small town.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, is that that town that has a really
absurdly long name.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Could be clang Coughlin. I think is the place that
I saw here.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Okay, maybe it wasn't an episode. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
I remember a name we played somewhere in the head,
like a name that none of us can pronounce and
like an old church.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah yeah, we did.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
We did tour the world, playing at some of the
biggest festivals in the world, you know, Ross Kelder, Lowlands,
festival and that was a pretty amazing experience when you're
twenty Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You haven't been in the bed for a while now,
you've been doing some sort of music school.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
When I left the band, I went and studied business
and started a music school where I live here in
Carpety called House to So our music Academy. We teached
in forty five schools across Wellington and there's sort of
over two thousand students between the two businesses a week
that we teach.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
So you're passing on all this knowledge to the next generation.
But still there was a niche, a view of musically
that you needed to scratch and so you've formed this
new collective called Trips.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
In twenty eighteen, my life was pregnant with our first
child and it was just let's go record some music
for no real reason, you know. He just had had
some idea and so we just went in and started recording.
And then sort of twenty twenty happens nothing, no music
was really happening. And then twenty twenty one, Barney moved
around the corner from.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Where I live is aware from the Black Seeds.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Barnaby weare from the Black Seeds, that's right. Yeah, moved
around the corner from us and we just started writing
music and just kept going and got there with an album.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
And so yeah, so Barnaby.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Ware sings a few and as co producer on the
whole album, and so it's his and Eyes Baby, And
then we've got Daniel Wheatman also from the Black Seeds,
who's what was my cohort and about the deadlines as.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Well, and Iris Little you.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Know, fabulous singer from Wellington. And then also Alarm Mills, so.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Good only singers. Who's playing all the instruments.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
For the most part, well, for the most part it's
me playing the majority of everything.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, nice work, and the debut album from Trips is
out tomorrow. The whole album has come out all at once,
but you've given us a sneak preview on the opening track.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Yep, absolutely so way of My Flow. This tune best
represents the project as a whole, sort of like a
gateway into the project. So we we love the songs
inspired by the cars, inspired by Queen and Bunnie's awesome
vocal on it as well.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
So Gratch and who's playing the keyboards?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Is that you? Yep? Yeah, so this one.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
I think I played every thing on that's right, such
just me and Barnaby on this whole song.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah yeah, all right, Well let's check it out. Brand
new from Trips. An exclusive preview, Thank you Andy. This
is Way of My Flow on Radio Headache.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Yes today, just doing best dram so sweet.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
It's already a heardek and that is brand new from
Trips called Way of My Flow. Andy Christensen is the
main man behind Trips and Bunnaby where was on vocals,
but we have Andy with us on a zoom now Kyoda. Andy,
thanks for bringing us that tune.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Thanks very much. Hope you guys enjoyed it. We love
that song, Way on My Flow.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
The whole album is released tomorrow, so it's.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
A self titled album, so it's just under the name Trips.
You'll be able to stream it on all of your
favorite streaming platforms. There's ten songs on the album.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
The idea of Trips sort of came to you in
twenty eighteen, six years later, there's ten songs out. How
long do you reckon before the next album?
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Well, I don't think it'll be sixty years we kind
of stopped that ten ten was like, we've got an album.
We had I think another six songs sitting there that
were kind of in the same vintage as those ones
that we just didn't finish working on, and so we
just sort of finished the first teen here's the album,
and then the next ten.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Here there'll be another album. So it won't be sixty years.
It won't be sixty years.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
We're excited to work on more music for sure, but yeah,
we love these songs and look forward to celebrating these ones.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
It must be cool to reconnect and reperform with Barnaby
and with Dan from the Black Seeds, given you were
in that band twenty years ago, you haven't been with
them for over a decade, but you've reconnected.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Yeah, Yeah, those guys are like older brothers to me,
you know. I mean, they're not that much older, but
you know, when I was in the band, I was
twenty and then I think, you know, I don't know,
Barnaby might have been twenty eight or something like that,
you know, so that they seem like old guys when
you're twenty.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But we're all just kids, I guess, you know. But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
I mean that they're a huge part of my musical journey,
and you know, like my formative year is really cutting
your teeth. And I'm just so grateful to have gone out,
you know, we did a lot of touring back then,
and very grateful to have gone out with people that
had their heads screwed on properly and that didn't leave
me down any bad paths or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, we're all family. It's forever.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
It's nice you played trumpet back then. Is there any
trumpet on the New Trip's album?
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a couple of songs featuring either
a horn section or just me as a trumpet player.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You played the trumpet. You mentioned that you played pretty
much all the instruments on that song we just heard
on way of my flow. How many instruments can you play?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I guess it's not.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Yeah, like I can pretend to play piano, keyboard, guitar,
I would say, you know, and drums are sort of
my those are sort of like equal second to basically trumpet.
Trumpet sort of like my main was always my main instrument.
But my dad's a drummer, you know, And you can't
really go to high school if you don't play guitar
and where I was, you know, whatever it is, and
(14:45):
then that leads into playing bass and heaving in the
air for like good basslines, played a bit of trombone,
you know, and anything else that I can kind of
pretend to play if I can get away with it all.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, I think. Yeah, the foundation I've got, I've got
the foundation. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah, And I guess when you're recording, you can sort
of meander and experiment and see what works and what doesn't.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Yeah, the process for a lot of these songs was
you know, Barnaby and myself getting into a room and
we're just all put it together, just on the spot,
and then not too long on it, so we know
it's like concise, and I'll just sit down at the
drum kit, set a click, and I will just play
what I had in my head.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
So it's completely different from someone like Michael Jackson who
would make his musicians do hundreds and hundreds of takes
getting each note exactly perfect. You just lay in the
track and then lay on whatever else and then just
play the guitar of it and then it's good to go.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
I go through phases of hating things that are probably
unit standards, you know, Like I went through a stage
of getting sick of hearing and tune guitars, so then
I wanted to put my guitars out of chance. So
there's a couple of couple on there that like I've
purposefully put my guitar out of chunks, and like everyone
plays in tune guitars, you know, And the next thing
(16:06):
is all I think, My next thing.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I'm leading into is sick of hearing things done to click.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Well, there's something very human about not playing to a
click track, especially when it comes to the drums. You know,
John Bonham and Danny Carey from Tool never used to
click tracks, and you know, they're considered some of the
greatest drummers of all time just because they have not
only the technical skills but the feel totally.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Yeah, that's been a recent revelation to hear that Danny
Currey never has never used a click track, and say,
it's like Chad Smith, I think the whole of Blood
Sugar like didn't use a click track, And that blows
my mind because the time and the album is amazing.
But then if you like, if you're to study some
of Danny Carey's stuff. Then you actually do realize that,
(16:45):
like he does take a breath on some of his
fells and you don't notice it from the outside. If
you zoe in, then you can kind of hear like,
oh there's there's a little nudge and timbo there or
whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And it's so musical. It is.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
It's what I think people think tall like the sort
of like mathy calculation, you know, of a band, but
they're incredibly musical at the basis of what they do.
You know, Yes, So I think that is. The next
thing is it's like sicker hearing everything in time, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And especially with twenty twenty four being the year of AI,
when everything's going to be so manufactured and robotic, it's
good to have that natural human error in this from time.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
That's right. You know, A big fan of Jack White.
He's sort of almost made a career out of celebrating imperfection. Yeah,
he was a big inspiration behind the like sicker hearing
and suing guitars. So I just just love how he
just navigates these kind of rules and he's just sort
of constantly saying, nah, nah.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I'm going to do that. I do what I want
to do? You about it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
So the album Trips is out tomorrow by the band Trips,
and Andy is with us now, Andy, if we want
to delve into that album tomorrow when it comes out,
if we want to keep an eye on any potential
tour dates or future workings, how's the best way to
find out about you guys?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Trips band on Instagram and same thing on Facebook.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Andy from Trips, thanks your time on Hedaki.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
So thank you very much.
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Welcome to Radio Hold Our Keys Off the Record podcast
with Angelina Gray.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
We are joined by great New Zealander Barnaby Ware, who
you'll know is the mastermind of Fleam Pritty's, the frontman
for the Black Seeds side projects Flash Harry, among others,
and today releasing a brand new album, Trips, which is
a side project between him and Andy Christiansen Day, Barnaby,
can you tell us that all the stories, the details
how this all began.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
The long and the short of it is that Andy
was in the Black Seeds for a while. They're on
trumpet and he's a very talented dude. He had done
some recording later on, this is ten years later, he
had done some recording recordings and we were both living
in part up at Umu region Company Coast and raising
our young young children, our babies, and you know, we
(00:51):
just got talking about these songs that he had and
we got together on a weekend and we banged out
some demos and we were just, you know, we're very
opinionated musician type people, and we just wanted to focus
on some great songwriting and see if we could build
a recording project. Yeah, and Trips was born out of
that and Andy's the kind of guy I can kind
(01:13):
of be there having a beer and I'm saying blay this,
blay this, now do that, and he can just do it,
you know. So it was kind of came together quite quickly,
and then we've collaborated with different vocalists and it's taken
a few years, but we're here now on release day
and we are loving it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Well, we're gonna check out the first single shortly, but
before we do that, I just kind of want to
get a little insight for the fact of I mean,
europeusy guys he said, young family, between black Seeds, Flummer Pretties,
all that kind of thing. Was it a labor of
love more so that right, we're gonna release this and
go out and take over the will.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Yeah, it was. It was very much, you know, labor
of love. We hope that people will just you know,
get involved and check it out. There's a bit of
variety on a nine track album, sounds really really fat,
and we just we're just really kind of pumped about it.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, I'm going to tap my hats, well, my hats
off rather to Andy because obviously you're on vocals, and
Andy obviously does a lot more than just playing the trumpet.
I see here drums, guitar, keys, bass, guitar. So are
you like the musical director or is it more of a.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
That's embarrassing?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Now he's awesome and you see, you know he do
things like it's so great to meet with because he's funny.
One yeah, and he has a has a good attitude.
But he can get you can get it done as
well and make it sound really fat. So you know,
one one, if you play wave of My Flow, which
you might play, you know he's just he just does
the whole drum take by himself to a click track
(02:37):
without any instrumentation at all and gets it all right,
and about take two or three, and then you just
sit in there going cool. Now you should play bass,
and now I shoul play guitar, and now I shoul
play keyboards, and now you know, so yeah, what a
joy to work with.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
All right, Well, let's give me a taste of key
we it's brand new trips called away My Flow on
a brand new for trips on Hodarky. It's way have
my flow with but to beware from trips. Well it
begs the question with a name like trips, we're talking
kind of psychedelic I don't know, going on a journey
(03:10):
type deal, what's what's the idea exactly.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah, we're talking about three things.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Like you know, when you get trips in a poker hand,
you've got three of the same kind, so that's quite
a good hand and if you get another two you
have a full house.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Right, So trips is that yep.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Taking LSD is also or mushrooms is also part of
the psychedelic kind of approach.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
And then going on a journey.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
So it's all those kind of three things, like you're
feeling lucky, you're going on a journey. You don't have
to be on drugs at all. It's just that we're
enjoying what's around the corner. And I think that, you know,
part of the time that we made this was lockdown
COVID times ah, and so you want to get outside
and do stuff and you know you might not have
been able to, and you want to be social and
(03:51):
so some of some of the you know, sentiment behind
some of the tracks, you know, comes from a bit
of frustration of that too, being maybe a bit lockdown
with your babies and that as well, And so there's
a sense of freedom, you know, and a sense of
whether it's going on on a car ride, like a
car trip, putting us on your playlist basically, yes, and
(04:11):
enjoying your holiday or whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
This is.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
This is speaking to me, Bannabee, because you know what
it's like raising a young family, so you would be
this awesome. And I see you've got old mate from
Black Seeds, Daniel Whetman doing some vocals as well.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
Sure we do.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
He's on two tracks that are you know, kind of psychedelic,
kind of rocky and a bit of funk in there. Yeah,
he's sounding really good. And it's also awesome to hear
down in a different context too because lyric really is
really quality and his voice is quality, and so that's
just great hearing outside of the Black Seeds, not just
(04:47):
to the Black Seeds because we love them, but you know,
outside of that, it's just it's just flexing a different
artistic muscle, you know, with Black Seeds. We're about to
release some new dubs, a dub album based off the
Love and Fire album which we released in.
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Twenty two, so that's coming out. We're still you know, going.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Well in playing gigs and we can on an album
eight studio album.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Wow, that's insane because I think the last time I
saw you guys, it probably would have been at the
Dunedin Beerfest, like coming up two years ago.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Good good, I love that one. Yeah, that was a
good one.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
On that point, Did you know that it's twenty It
is more than twenty years that On the Sun was released. Yeah,
we are going to come out with a deluxe edition
double vinyl of that Choys album so in Yeah, so
that'll be you know, look this way, you know, chick it.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Out, check out the news.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I think it'd be rude not to play something from
that album on the Sun twenty years old. It's the
Black Seeds, We're gonna beware fire, Hodaky Real early Flemy
Pritties on twelve o'clock rock Bag of Money and I'm
with the guy that wrote that soon bna be weird.
Do you remember where how you wrote that song? If
(05:57):
you cast you mind back, Yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Think it was just like a bit of a like
you know how musicians are quite poor often and it's
kind of like have you seen my bag of Money?
And it was just a little catchy thing that I
wrote when I was at my radio active days of
it actually I'm not just name dropping here, but literally
Brett McKenzie played drums on that first demo of it,
(06:19):
and then I bought it out on a bit later
in two thousand and three or whatever for fly my Pretties.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Live at that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So it's a bit of a gag. Have you seen
my bag of money? I left it in the parlor,
you know, because if you find a big of money, please.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Give it to me, you know.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
And it just kind of was one of those things
that caught on over the years, which is a bit
kind of catchy and silly, and kids love it and
adults kind of love it, and it still goes down
well when I get a chance to play it.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I love the fact that Ease would parlo in it too,
because I feel like the days of parlors are almost
behind us. The idea of a parlor is dispaired.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I wish I had a parlor, and I don't have
a parlor. Man Like, I like the baseline, So I
guess I guess the team came together the baseline which
I wrote, and then put the lyrics on top of
the groove the parlor. Actually, if I know, may just
indulge a week on that kind of mock tudor kind
of house with someone playing bass, and it's playing it
in quite a you know, old school fashion Elizabethan era baseline.
Speaker 4 (07:19):
I don't want if the existed then, but.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Now I'm going to listen to that in a whole
new light, with the whole new vision in my head.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
Brilliant black headed black Head on basse.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, well, hate Barnaby, thank you so much for chatting
to us. We can we go if we're looking for
info on Trips or what you're up to socials.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Yes, so it's just Trips band on Facebook and Instagram
and you'll see it. You'll see me there, you'll see
what we're up to.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
It won't be hard hard to track us down, all.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Right, I shall be. I should be stalking the socials.
Thank you so much, bunmy thank you.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Radio hodar Keys off the Record.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
Podcast with Let's have a Chat with Trips cureder Andy.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Hey, how you go?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
Man?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Really well, thanks, it's great to have you on Radio Hedaky.
Not for the first time, I guess, because we've played
tunes from the Black Seeds over the years. You're not
in that band anymore. You've started up a new thing
called trips. But if we just go back to the beginning,
where'd you grow out? Where are you from?
Speaker 7 (08:18):
In the Bayer plenty? My dad gave me a trumpet
when I was three, crank that for I studied it.
I went to university, studied jazz trumpet, got the opportunity
to do a Black Seeds gig when I was I
think it was eighteen. It was just a filling for
the trumpet player at the time, and then joined the
band when I was twenty. So yeah, that's where I
(08:39):
grew up and that's what I did when I was
a kid, was just playing music, played trumpet.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
And you toured the world with the Black Seeds. I
remember seeing you guys in Wales once in a small town.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
Yeah yeah, is that that town that has a really
absurdly long name.
Speaker 6 (08:53):
Could be clang Coughlin. I think is the place that
I saw here.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
Okay, maybe it wasn't an episode. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (08:58):
I remember a name we played somewhere in the head,
like a name that none of us can pronounce and
like an old church.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Yeah yeah, we did.
Speaker 7 (09:04):
We did tour the world, playing at some of the
biggest festivals in the world, you know, Ross Kelder, Lowlands,
festival and that was a pretty amazing experience when you're
twenty Yeah, it was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
You haven't been in the bed for a while now,
you've been doing some sort of music school.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 8 (09:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (09:21):
When I left the band, I went and studied business
and started a music school where I live here in
Carpety called House to So our music Academy. We teached
in forty five schools across Wellington and there's sort of
over two thousand students between the two businesses a week
that we teach.
Speaker 6 (09:36):
That's amazing.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 6 (09:38):
So you're passing on all this knowledge to the next generation.
But still there was a niche, a view of musically
that you needed to scratch and so you've formed this
new collective called Trips.
Speaker 7 (09:49):
In twenty eighteen, my life was pregnant with our first
child and it was just let's go record some music
for no real reason, you know. He just had had
some idea and so we just went in and started recording.
And then sort of twenty twenty happens nothing, no music
was really happening. And then twenty twenty one, Barney moved
around the corner from.
Speaker 6 (10:09):
Where I live is aware from the Black Seeds.
Speaker 7 (10:12):
Barnaby weare from the Black Seeds, that's right. Yeah, moved
around the corner from us and we just started writing
music and just kept going and got there with an album.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
And so yeah, so Barnaby.
Speaker 7 (10:22):
Ware sings a few and as co producer on the
whole album, and so it's his and Eyes Baby, And
then we've got Daniel Wheatman also from the Black Seeds,
who's what was my cohort and about the deadlines as.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Well, and Iris Little you.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
Know, fabulous singer from Wellington. And then also Alarm Mills, so.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Good only singers. Who's playing all the instruments.
Speaker 7 (10:47):
For the most part, well, for the most part it's
me playing the majority of everything.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Yeah, nice work, and the debut album from Trips is
out tomorrow. The whole album has come out all at once,
but you've given us a sneak preview on the opening track.
Speaker 7 (11:04):
Yep, absolutely so way of My Flow. This tune best
represents the project as a whole, sort of like a
gateway into the project. So we we love the songs
inspired by the cars, inspired by Queen and Bunnie's awesome
vocal on it as well.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
So Gratch and who's playing the keyboards?
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Is that you? Yep? Yeah, so this one.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
I think I played every thing on that's right, such
just me and Barnaby on this whole song.
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Yeah yeah, all right, Well let's check it out. Brand
new from Trips. An exclusive preview, Thank you Andy. This
is Way of My Flow on Radio Headache.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
Yes today, just doing best dram so sweet.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
It's already a heardek and that is brand new from
Trips called Way of My Flow. Andy Christensen is the
main man behind Trips and Bunnaby where was on vocals,
but we have Andy with us on a zoom now Kyoda. Andy,
thanks for bringing us that tune.
Speaker 7 (12:13):
Thanks very much. Hope you guys enjoyed it. We love
that song, Way on My Flow.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
The whole album is released tomorrow, so it's.
Speaker 7 (12:20):
A self titled album, so it's just under the name Trips.
You'll be able to stream it on all of your
favorite streaming platforms. There's ten songs on the album.
Speaker 6 (12:30):
The idea of Trips sort of came to you in
twenty eighteen, six years later, there's ten songs out. How
long do you reckon before the next album?
Speaker 7 (12:39):
Well, I don't think it'll be sixty years we kind
of stopped that ten ten was like, we've got an album.
We had I think another six songs sitting there that
were kind of in the same vintage as those ones
that we just didn't finish working on, and so we
just sort of finished the first teen here's the album,
and then the next ten.
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Here there'll be another album. So it won't be sixty years.
It won't be sixty years.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
We're excited to work on more music for sure, but yeah,
we love these songs and look forward to celebrating these ones.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
It must be cool to reconnect and reperform with Barnaby
and with Dan from the Black Seeds, given you were
in that band twenty years ago, you haven't been with
them for over a decade, but you've reconnected.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Yeah, Yeah, those guys are like older brothers to me,
you know. I mean, they're not that much older, but
you know, when I was in the band, I was
twenty and then I think, you know, I don't know,
Barnaby might have been twenty eight or something like that,
you know, so that they seem like old guys when
you're twenty.
Speaker 5 (13:35):
But we're all just kids, I guess, you know. But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
I mean that they're a huge part of my musical journey,
and you know, like my formative year is really cutting
your teeth. And I'm just so grateful to have gone out,
you know, we did a lot of touring back then,
and very grateful to have gone out with people that
had their heads screwed on properly and that didn't leave
me down any bad paths or anything like that.
Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah, we're all family. It's forever.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
It's nice you played trumpet back then. Is there any
trumpet on the New Trip's album?
Speaker 7 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's a couple of songs featuring either
a horn section or just me as a trumpet player.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You played the trumpet. You mentioned that you played pretty
much all the instruments on that song we just heard
on way of my flow. How many instruments can you play?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
I guess it's not.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Yeah, like I can pretend to play piano, keyboard, guitar,
I would say, you know, and drums are sort of
my those are sort of like equal second to basically trumpet.
Trumpet sort of like my main was always my main instrument.
But my dad's a drummer, you know, And you can't
really go to high school if you don't play guitar
and where I was, you know, whatever it is, and
(14:45):
then that leads into playing bass and heaving in the
air for like good basslines, played a bit of trombone,
you know, and anything else that I can kind of
pretend to play if I can get away with it all.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, I think. Yeah, the foundation I've got, I've got
the foundation. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Yeah, And I guess when you're recording, you can sort
of meander and experiment and see what works and what doesn't.
Speaker 7 (15:10):
Yeah, the process for a lot of these songs was
you know, Barnaby and myself getting into a room and
we're just all put it together, just on the spot,
and then not too long on it, so we know
it's like concise, and I'll just sit down at the
drum kit, set a click, and I will just play
what I had in my head.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
So it's completely different from someone like Michael Jackson who
would make his musicians do hundreds and hundreds of takes
getting each note exactly perfect. You just lay in the
track and then lay on whatever else and then just
play the guitar of it and then it's good to go.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, totally. Yeah.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
I go through phases of hating things that are probably
unit standards, you know, Like I went through a stage
of getting sick of hearing and tune guitars, so then
I wanted to put my guitars out of chance. So
there's a couple of couple on there that like I've
purposefully put my guitar out of chunks, and like everyone
plays in tune guitars, you know, And the next thing
(16:06):
is all I think, My next thing.
Speaker 5 (16:07):
I'm leading into is sick of hearing things done to click.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Well, there's something very human about not playing to a
click track, especially when it comes to the drums. You know,
John Bonham and Danny Carey from Tool never used to
click tracks, and you know, they're considered some of the
greatest drummers of all time just because they have not
only the technical skills but the feel totally.
Speaker 7 (16:25):
Yeah, that's been a recent revelation to hear that Danny
Currey never has never used a click track, and say,
it's like Chad Smith, I think the whole of Blood
Sugar like didn't use a click track, And that blows
my mind because the time and the album is amazing.
But then if you like, if you're to study some
of Danny Carey's stuff. Then you actually do realize that,
(16:45):
like he does take a breath on some of his
fells and you don't notice it from the outside. If
you zoe in, then you can kind of hear like,
oh there's there's a little nudge and timbo there or
whatever it is.
Speaker 5 (16:55):
And it's so musical. It is.
Speaker 7 (16:57):
It's what I think people think tall like the sort
of like mathy calculation, you know, of a band, but
they're incredibly musical at the basis of what they do.
You know, Yes, So I think that is. The next
thing is it's like sicker hearing everything in time, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
And especially with twenty twenty four being the year of AI,
when everything's going to be so manufactured and robotic, it's
good to have that natural human error in this from time.
Speaker 7 (17:26):
That's right. You know, A big fan of Jack White.
He's sort of almost made a career out of celebrating imperfection. Yeah,
he was a big inspiration behind the like sicker hearing
and suing guitars. So I just just love how he
just navigates these kind of rules and he's just sort
of constantly saying, nah, nah.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
I'm going to do that. I do what I want
to do? You about it? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:48):
So the album Trips is out tomorrow by the band Trips,
and Andy is with us now, Andy, if we want
to delve into that album tomorrow when it comes out,
if we want to keep an eye on any potential
tour dates or future workings, how's the best way to
find out about you guys?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Trips band on Instagram and same thing on Facebook.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Andy from Trips, thanks your time on Hedaki.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
So thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
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Speaker 6 (18:23):
Thanks mate. Find out more about this
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