June 4, 2025 • 32 mins
This week on On The Front Foot, we pay tribute to David 'Tristy' Trist, a former Black Caps coach who passed away this week.
We also look back on Gary Stead's legacy as a Black Caps coach.
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A sad reflection to start with. One of our good
mates and commentary colleague passed away, probably more commonly remembered
as Black Apps coach David trist spent some interesting hours
with us in the commentary box. One of these joins
us to remember him and his passionate whitment to Brigand
and Jerry are acorner Man who loved talking about the
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game and enjoyed long periods of discourse. You did get
down to some long discussion VOTs, wouldn't it?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
This could actually go through the whole podcast, wise, couldn't it.
I didn't know Dave that well, while will know him
probably better. But the very amicable person loved pondering things
and teasing out situations, you know, like a piece of wool.
His mustache used to twitch with possibilities, didn't it? Always
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another way that doing something a bit different. He used
to see the world slightly different. He used to see
the skytower and the beehive and the rest of us
saw the main stand.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
I do remember him at the Rothmans tournament I went
to and under twenty three tournament.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
They're no longer going, are they. I was hell of Aroor.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I must have been sixteen playing for Wellington. I remember
Richard Collins was in the team. It was a tournament
played in Canterbury and I don't know how it happened.
It cost me a lot, but I scraped into the
New Zealand side and alongside the Canterbury trio of Alan
hauntsel Dale Hadley and David Tryst, and we played a
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couple of games, and then we met the winners of
the Plunket Shield Auckland at Eden Park and the bowlers
sat on the other side of the dressing room, so
I wasn't drawn into their talks. And I was, of
course twelfth man, so I knew the dressing room quite
well by the end of the game. But Dave was
a really pleasant man, wasn't he. I mean he just
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loved talking about the game.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh yeah, he and he had a lot of perish
and you probably would have played against him more often
than with him Wally.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
I played a lot of the in the early days
against Tristy. I was at the same tournament that Jeremy
was at, and I think I was probably in the
same game against Auckland, and I've got an idea. Jeremy
my first first class game, I think, and I managed
to get a pair and also managed to drop about
four catches. So it was at the start of a
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very long and difficult career for me, really. But I
did play a lot with Tristy, and you're right, and
everything you say about him, I've got a few words here.
I would have found him to be an extremely positive person,
extremely thoughtful, loved the long talk about the game, and
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you're right when he wanted to theorize it was a
It was a long and and and sometimes some times
I win a wee bit too long because I forgot
what he started with sometimes when he started talking about
the theories of the game. But I just found in
one of those really nice guys you always want to
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think about. When you meet people and you haven't seen
them for a whole season or a summer, or you
see them in the new year, and they come up
and they shake their hand, they shake your hand and
they say, really good to see you. Sometimes you wonder
whether they mean it. Tristi's the sort of guy. He
wanted to meet you, and he was honest. He wanted
to ask about your family. He wanted to talk about
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the cricket that was going to be on in the
next few days. He managed always to talk me into
where the next race meeting was at. And was I
still interested in being a part owner of a race horse?
And I got right through a very long career with
him without shit, without giving him any of my money
for any of the horses that came fourth and fifth,
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which Tristie had. He was a guy who was well organized.
Though he would not watch a lot of cricket, but
he would read a lot of cricket. And when he
came to Lancaster Park in those early days when I
used to drive up from Dunedin to do some commentary,
I really look forward to meeting up with him because
he would have a theory on the way the game
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is going to go. He was just a nice guy
to be with and I'm sure that a lot of
people around New Zealand would realize it's a sad day
for New Zealand when we lose someone from the New
Zealand cricket family. And I think if Tristy as someone
who was genuinely a big part of that, and he
was proud to be part of the New Zealand cricket family.
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It's something he really took quite seriously.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah. Coached the Black Caps, he coached Hong Kong, he
coached the Netherlands. He coached in South Africa against for
the Eastern Province. They won a title there. He took
over from Steve Rixon and did a couple of years
and of course the ICC champions Trophy, our first international trophy,
was one under his leadership as coach and you know,
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a fun guy. I must admit I did upset him once.
I have to, I have to own up. I promised
to ring him and I never got through to him.
You know what you get when someone's there. You know
you cannot be reached at the moment, Can you leave
a message? And I did this for about four months
until he rang me one day complaining about the fact
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that I hadn't rung him. I said, I have, I've
rung you so many times. What's your number, Tristy? And
he gave me the number, which was totally different to
the number that I'd been ringing, and I said, I've
rung this number. He said, oh no, He said, I
lost that phone down in the yard or down in
the farm or down in the paddock about five months ago.
So I haven't been able to find it ever since.
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So we had a discussion about his last phone. But
it was that was the funny side of Tristy because
he could, you know, he could still make a joke
about that. And we solved the problems that come between us.
And it was about whether he was going to work
doing commentary, and I was spoke to ring him tell
him yes, he was, so that's one of my memories
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of Tristie. But touring with him too was also a
lot of fun in terms of the discussions that you
would have. And I guess you have an affinity Whiley
because you've been a coach, You've been in exactly the
same situation. You've shared the highs and lows of the team.
You live the team fos.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
But you can only do so much for them. It's
when they go out in the park. You can't do anything,
can you.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
No, And I do think that Tristy did have a
style that was.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
In letter years.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
We've had different types of coaches and everyone is allowed
to be themselves when they take over a role as
serious as a coach of a national sporting team. But
he's very unassuming. He was in the background. He was
a supportive coach. He would quietly sit down with players
and talk about their family, their job, their ambitions in
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the game, where they were at, what they would need
help with. He wasn't seeking the media, he wasn't seeking
the forefront. Quite often you'd see teams arrive back from
overseas that Tristy had been in and they'd be at
the airport, Tristie would just be one of the guys
down the back, just pulling his bags through the airport, quietly,
not waving and seeking out someone from the media. He
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liked to be the supportive type of coach and I
think that was quite important in those days because in
the time that he took over after Steve Rixon, they
weren't easy days. And it certainly isn't easy for a
coach to come in and to try and fit himself
into the dressing room, to work out where he needs
to sit when he needs to speak, how to make
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sure that everyone's involved in the team, And Tristy was
one of those guys who thought about that, and if anything,
he really had a sympathetic year for the new players,
and I think he he helped bring a lot of
new players into the team and slowly change the way
the team was run. I think there was quite a strength.
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As I said before, he's pretty thoughtful, pretty organized, and
he was pretty genuine about wanting the team to do well.
Not David trist Well. He didn't want to. He didn't
want to stamp his mark on the team as if
it was his. He genuinely wanted the new Zealand team
to perform. Well, yeah he did, Jerry. Only you remember
when we were working in commentary set up. I mean
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a real talk fest was on, wasn't it. Wadle Coney,
David trust and of course another man who could probably
out talk a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Of us, Peter Sharp. There was a fairy words delivered
in those occasions.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Weren't they very hard to get on once? You didn't
want to actually spores of a sentence at all? Did
you somebody cut in immediately and take you down with
another idea.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, that was a busy time.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, Chure was. And you know, Tristy left a lot
of good memories and it's said to realize that he's
now left us something. In the last couple of years.
I don't think he was particularly well, was he.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Yeah, Trusty in the last couple of years are really battled,
I think, And I know it's only about six months
ago that I tried to ring and see whether I
could go to see him in his place at Little River,
But of course he wasn't there, and therefore he was
struggling in later life. I just think again about trust
Even in his playing days for Canterbury, there were some
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very big names in the Canterbury teams, and very very
successful they were. That were the Colemans and Barry Hadley
at the top of the order, and there was Dale
and Richard and Alan Hounseill. For a while, Tristy was
never one who was getting the headlines. He never made
the main newspapers or the main radio commentary. He was
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always someone who was supportive person even as a player,
and I think he continued that in a lot of
his life. He was just a very very thoughtful person
and always, as I said before, was interested in what
people around him were doing. I think that's the real
strength that sometimes we don't all share with some of
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the coaches these days.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, well it's said that Tristy has passed away a
good friend Twyson. Of course, has probably been a sad
week in terms of the New Zealand create family because
Robert Jumbo Anderson passed away during the week as well.
And funnily enough, he played in the same first eleven
at christ Church Boys High School as David Tristan nineteen
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sixty four. I've seen a photo of that first eleven side.
Alan hounsel I think was also in that side as well.
I don't remember many of the other players, but a
sad passing for Jumbo Anderson I think played in the
Test match at the basin review of review Wally when
Music beat England.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Yeah, he was there. Jumbo was one of those larger
than life characters that occasionally you see around the sporting fields,
in particular in cricket. He absolutely loved the game of cricket.
He loved people, He loved being around people who loved
the dressing room. A couple of things about the way
he played, and I don't mean this in any sort
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of derogatory manner at all, but a lot of players
who played with and against Jumbo over the years could
say he would absolutely murder a medium paced attack. He
could absolutely go out there in Hawk Cup cricket and
school record number of runs for Southam for so long
and kept the Hawk Cup in that area along with
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the Alabasters of course. But Jumbo was one of those
players in the dressing room if the team was down,
someone would be able to turn around, and he had that.
I mean, he was a big fellow. He was a big,
big smile on his face. When he was batting and
he'd hit the ball for four, he looked around and
he was waiting for the next ball and he was
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excited about being there. I'm sure someone in the opposition
teams would not see it quite the same way. But
when things were going well, yeah, Jumbo kept the whole
dressing room alive. And it is sad that, as I
said before, New Zealand cricket family had lost another one
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of the real characters of the game. And a lot
of people played a lot of fun games when Jumbo
Anderson was around.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, sad news that two of the family passed away
this week and rest in peace, David Tristan and Robert Anderson.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Brian Waddell, Jeremy Cooney. On the front foot, we.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Had some news of well senior players getting awards in
the Queen's Birthday Honors. Deserved awards joined yours and Jerry's club. Actually, Wally,
you've both got the same gongs, haven't you. It's got
a different title now in MBE or Member of the
New Zealand Order of Merital whatever they call them now,
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Tim Soudy and Sophie Devine, and we wish them all
the best. Congratulations to them and another person who we
congratulate nothing to do with the cricket World. Jerry is
a friend of ours because he hosted us so many
times in Towering and Mount Bong and Ui when we
were up there for games. Brian Kelly, the fifty five
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years he's given to radio got himself an award as well,
so that's great news that we can also celebrate.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yea, he loves his cars too, doesn't he.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
He'll be hard to get him off that subject when
he's having a barbecue.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Certainly not on the front foot with Waddle and Cody.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He probably realized it was coming. It had taken so
long to fill the coach's role, but Black Caps coach
Gary stead'shighly successful seven years in charge of the national
side officially comes to an end when his contract finishes. Stead,
who last month confirmed each step away as coach of
the White Wall formats, was effectively ruled out of contentions
for the head coach role after New Zealand Cricket opted
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for one head coach across all three formats. Seven years
with some undoubted highlights.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
I think the clean sweep of India last year three
mila in India, considering it'd never been done before, is
probably the biggest highlight of the moment. We won the
World Test Championship obviously that's another one. I think making
what three finals and ICC events in that time as
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well shows the consistency that the team has played with,
and that's been one of the things I have always
said that I think Mike Essen and Brenda McCullum had
left the team in a really good spot and what
we needed to do was keep finding ways to be
consistent more often. And I think on the whole that's
been that's been done recently, well.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He probably expected they might not split the roles, but
he doesn't feel let down by New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Look, I understood that that was there was a fair
chance that that could happen, and that that that that
going down the route of one coach was a model
that they might still still look to take. And look,
I accept that there's there's no sort of Harbor's grudge
from me on on that side at all. That's the
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direction they think is best for the team. So and
that's ultimately all I want as well.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
And as of now, nothing new on the horizon.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
Look, I mean I want to stay involved in coaching.
It's it's something I'm passionate about. I enjoy seeing individuals.
I enjoy seeing teams try and maximize their performance. So
I'll try and take some of the learnings that I've
had in the in the last well thirty years really
of of domestic and international sport and see what I
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can apply and maybe you've used to other people in
the future. But look, I still want to have an
involvement in cricket as well because I think it's a
game that's given so much to me as well, and.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
The game has changed a lot even in that seven years.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
When you think about it, you don't have to look
at the IPL for a start off, don't you.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
Yeah, Look, I mean the franchises I think has made
the role of head coach a little bit more challenging
than what it was. And there's certainly a lot more
pressure on players now to look well, there's more pressure
coming from the outside for them to look elsewhere with opportunities.
And I still think that's a good thing though, that
players can maximize their earnings. But I think it is
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important from a New Zealand cricket point of view that
we do preserve the specialness and importantness I guess importance
of what that silver means on the chest.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So there's going to be only just the one coach
Warren Le's that was what you did as coach of
the New Zealand side. I sense the game has changed
dramatically since you were coaching. Hasn't any and the thanes
since you were in charge?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I should imagine it really has. And there are times
when I think back on those days and think, how
do we ever get on going to Pakistan with that
first team where all we didn't have We had a
physio and we had a manager and we had a
radio commentator and that was a lot. These days, you know,
there's a big support staff. I think in Gary Steed's case,
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he's carried a big, big burden over the last few years.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
He's done it so well.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
He's done it so much in the style of the
old fashioned coaches. He's been in the background. He's been
an organizer. I think he's been the chairman of the
board in a way as far as the black Caps
are concerned. He's had four or five or even more
that he's probably had six or seven other coaches, bolloling coaches,
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fielding coaches, batting coaches, people coming in with psych service
and different things. So he's had a lot of people
to organize, but he's done it well. And he's also
taken over a team that Mike Hessen in a way
had developed along with obviously Brendan McCollum, and he's had
the same style or a wee bit as his more
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in the background, but obviously paddling very much under the
water and knowing exactly what's going on. I think he's
done a remarkable job. And while we can say it's
sad to go, I like his comments about well, there
is a time, there is a time to move on,
that it's not the end of the world, and there
are other things he could he may be looking at,
and I certainly hope he is, but there's also a
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time for family, and he's mentioned that so he knows
there are other responsibilities. I think congratulations to Gary Stead
for the way he's worked so hard at his game
from way back in the day when he when he
played for New Zealand and it wasn't a long career
as a player, but he knew that cricket was in
his blood and cricket was something he really wanted to
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be involved in, and he worked his way up from
the bottom of the ladder to taking the top team.
I think he's done a remarkable job and I just
hope that New Zealand Cricket in some way can reward
him in the future and not just forget him. And
I also hope they're organized with the replacement and the
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style of the replacement that they bring in to take
over from Garystead.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I mean from a personal reaction from my distance that
I observed Stead, he always was diligent and hard working,
a very organized guy. Seemed very well planned. The New
Zealand side clearly meant a lot to him, and he
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was passionate about, you know, developing his charges and trying
to get consistency of performance from them. He tended to
retain players and be loyal to them, and I think
in New Zealand, with not many in the community there
her play cricket, that that's not a bad idea at all.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
He was loyal to them and they were loyal to him,
perhaps because he selected them.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
And kept on doing so.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
But I mean some thought at times he held on
to some players just a little bit long, and there
would be some also thought that the Wagner and Sow
the episodes towards the end was a little bit uneven treatment.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
But overall, you.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Know, you cast your eye down the list of achievements
and he was right at the top of that. It's
an extraordinary list, isn't it really, guys? You know, from
runner up in that ODII in twenty nineteen to the
winning the World Test Championship and all the semi finals
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that he made in t twenties and ODI's the clean
sweep of India just last year surely highlight for him,
and then just recently the runner up and the champions truck.
I mean, it's a very impressive list for such a
small nation and he, as I say, oversaw all that
and we only get about what is at six to
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seven percent of the division of the money and distribution
I think.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
From World Cups.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And you've also got to remember we haven't lost too
many players yet to sort of franchise fixtures all the time.
Players even like Seifered and Finale and and Nicham and
Conwan Williamson more recently, they still are keen to come
back and play for New Zealand when there are international opportunities.
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When they arrived, whether it's red or white ball, not
the same in the West Indies, not the same in
South Africa. You know, so I think really he's done
a terrific job. You know, whoever's going to be the
next coach? And I see they interviewed Shane Bond and
Urson Ronkey and Rob Walter, so you'd assume one of
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those Stead himself didn't get an interview. You just hope
that they can get similar sort of performances out.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Of the players.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Well we're going to be looking to see who are
the front runners word out of the dark corners. No
one will confirm it that it's basically between Rob Walter
and Shane Bond, but we will have to wait and
see what New Zealand Cricket delivered. When it comes to
the new coach, she's going to head New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We have a boarding announcement here a boarding announcement for
mister j Coney. Your flight to London leaves shortly. You're
after the World Test Championship. We've better have a quick
look at that before you go. I picking Australia.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Oh wow, that's a good call, isn't it. Here was above?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Well, if you if you look at any figures, and
I'm a kind of a that's where I make a start.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Really, not that they mean that much.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Really, you look at the number of tests that say
Australia have played seven hundred and fifty. If you go
through each player, select your side and go through each player,
add up the number of tests they played seven to fifty,
and then you look at South Africa three hundred and
thirty seven, so two times the number of tests plus
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seventy six.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
You look at the number of runs they've scored, They've
scored seventy seven more.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
And if you go down the averages of each of
those players and each of the sides, three seventy would
be the average score.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Of course it never.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Happens, but you know what I mean what I'm doing,
I'm getting a collective average from all the Australian players
who might play, and then doing the same for South
Africa and South Africa two ninety three and Australia three hundred,
and then the hundreds that the players.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Have scored fifty five.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
For the difference between the two, Australia fifty five more
hundreds in their team than South Africa.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
That's a hell of a lot. Smith has scored himself.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Fifteen more hundreds than the entire South African side. So
those figures clearly say that Australia would be set favorites.
I think I don't know what you guys feel about
the size themselves, because this is a one off test,
isn't it. But Australia have the players. They've been together
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for a long time as a team. You know, they
have a few changes around the edges, but it's in
the engine room. You know that Kowaja, Labershane Smith head Care,
all the quips, Lion Green's you know joined recently and
even more so than Guy Webster.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
But you know they all.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Experienced different conditions and they found answers. They solved problems
on the field. South Africa can't match that. Their top
players are going to have to really play well. Robarda
Jansen the left armor and then maybe in the batting Aiden,
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Markram and Bavooma are the ones. They all have to
play at their peak really, just the same as Richard
Hadley did in eighty five against the Australians when he
was way better than the Australian fast bowlers and thirty
three wickets and three Tests. So Robarda and Juhnson have
to be able to do that really, and the players
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who support them, both seamers in the cordon and the
keeper have to hold everything.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
But their batting is fallible.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
You know, Rickleton and Desaucei at the top ten tests
and eleven tests, Beddington in the middle number five. Only
twelve test stubs might play nine tests. They just can't
quite match the Aussies and whatever metric that you call.
But it's a one off test, straight shootout.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I mean, if it's.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Murky on day one and in the South Africa Bowl,
Robarda is good enough if he plays well to make
a mess of a top order and if it's dry.
Maharaj I think is a very fine left armor as well.
But the batting doesn't forge confidence. I've got to say
most of the average of low.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Surgeons looking at the Australian squad wally, they're still trying
to find an opening to go with Kawaja, aren't they.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Well, I must admit I looked yesterday at both teams
and as Juramy probably agree with me, I don't follow
it that closely, but I couldn't recognize because we don't
see them often enough, and they don't play as much, perhaps,
but I didn't recognize enough of the South African names
to think that they had it's to players. And you
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go through the Australian team and really you can just
about reel offen eight, nine, ten players who are very
very good players and very experienced players. And I know,
as you say, they're still uncertain about their two opening batsmen,
but any two of probably four of their players are
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so well organized at this level that I could only
see in a five day game without weather intervening and
things like that, I could only see Australia winning.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, they South Africa don't seem to come up with
the team to win at the business end, Jerry Dog.
They've always sort of flattered to deceive. Yes, they're going
to win. We've got a chance. They've got a chance.
But they don't seem to quite make it at any time,
do they.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Well, they've made finals in the t twenties, haven't they
in the last last year, both the men and the women.
They're getting better, but I think in a Test match
in five days, we all know the better side has
the time as long as it's available to assert their superiority.
I mean, if you had to pick a combined team
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between the Aussies and the South Africans, I reckon maybe
markrom at the top to go with Kwaja, but Smith
over Bavooma.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You'd pick a head.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Then the fast bowl is come and stark Lion, perhaps
Ribada might make the side, so you could only really
see I think two of the South Africans pushing for
a position in that combined eleven and it kind of
gives you an idea about the two sides.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yes, indeed, Well it's going to be interesting. It starts
next week at Lords and Jeremy will be there. He's
getting on the plane. Wally will be able to sit
back in now living rooms and watch through the night.
You know, there's plenty of cricket to be watched through
the night. I know you both do it on a
regular basis, watching cricket in the armchair at two o'clock
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in the morning while I'm fast asleep. I don't have
time for that sort of carry on. So we wish
Jerry all the best, and I hope he sleeps on
the flight because I think he's getting off the plane
and going straight to Lords.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, I am actually straight from straight from Singapore,
arrive in England and go straight to Lord's. It's great,
isn't it. I'll have a sleep there. Actually that's what
I normally do in common so you know that anyway,
was yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Well. I can remember often turning around in the commentary
box to see you stretched out and on the back,
eyes closed, and with that twitching hip you've had for
a few years, which obviously been fixed. But there was
a long wait to get to get the new hip.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Wasn't it?
Speaker 6 (30:55):
It was mate? It was mate?
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Have you because IRV McSweeney's had a new hip done
in the last three or four months.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Ian Smith has had us have done as well, you keepers.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
My problem was Monees even though you thought the ball
went into the gloves quite often me on the on
the end of.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
The yeah, I got something else, had a good bottle
of gin. That'll be help, wouldn't it?
Speaker 7 (31:28):
One win missing one time?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Remember one to one went missing? But never mind. We're
not going to carry on about that now. We're going
to wish Jerry all the best to the best flight
over there and enjoy the World Test Championship. So we'll
talk to you in the u k.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
J C yep.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Thanks once. Yeah yet by all means.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Being too much on my prison.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
That's all.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I'll get that new knee for you.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Thanks guys, talking to your Niga summer.
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tested in the preliminary stage. Let's wait to see next week.
Here's the final hest the cricket side against splitting the
Black Beeps coaching roles, so very stead is on the butt.
(01:09):
A sad reflection to start with. One of our good
mates and commentary colleague passed away, probably more commonly remembered
as Black Apps coach David trist spent some interesting hours
with us in the commentary box. One of these joins
us to remember him and his passionate whitment to Brigand
and Jerry are acorner Man who loved talking about the
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game and enjoyed long periods of discourse. You did get
down to some long discussion VOTs, wouldn't it?
Speaker 5 (01:36):
This could actually go through the whole podcast, wise, couldn't it.
I didn't know Dave that well, while will know him
probably better. But the very amicable person loved pondering things
and teasing out situations, you know, like a piece of wool.
His mustache used to twitch with possibilities, didn't it? Always
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another way that doing something a bit different. He used
to see the world slightly different. He used to see
the skytower and the beehive and the rest of us
saw the main stand.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You know.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
I do remember him at the Rothmans tournament I went
to and under twenty three tournament.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
They're no longer going, are they. I was hell of Aroor.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I must have been sixteen playing for Wellington. I remember
Richard Collins was in the team. It was a tournament
played in Canterbury and I don't know how it happened.
It cost me a lot, but I scraped into the
New Zealand side and alongside the Canterbury trio of Alan
hauntsel Dale Hadley and David Tryst, and we played a
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couple of games, and then we met the winners of
the Plunket Shield Auckland at Eden Park and the bowlers
sat on the other side of the dressing room, so
I wasn't drawn into their talks. And I was, of
course twelfth man, so I knew the dressing room quite
well by the end of the game. But Dave was
a really pleasant man, wasn't he. I mean he just
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loved talking about the game.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh yeah, he and he had a lot of perish
and you probably would have played against him more often
than with him Wally.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
I played a lot of the in the early days
against Tristy. I was at the same tournament that Jeremy
was at, and I think I was probably in the
same game against Auckland, and I've got an idea. Jeremy
my first first class game, I think, and I managed
to get a pair and also managed to drop about
four catches. So it was at the start of a
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very long and difficult career for me, really. But I
did play a lot with Tristy, and you're right, and
everything you say about him, I've got a few words here.
I would have found him to be an extremely positive person,
extremely thoughtful, loved the long talk about the game, and
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you're right when he wanted to theorize it was a
It was a long and and and sometimes some times
I win a wee bit too long because I forgot
what he started with sometimes when he started talking about
the theories of the game. But I just found in
one of those really nice guys you always want to
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think about. When you meet people and you haven't seen
them for a whole season or a summer, or you
see them in the new year, and they come up
and they shake their hand, they shake your hand and
they say, really good to see you. Sometimes you wonder
whether they mean it. Tristi's the sort of guy. He
wanted to meet you, and he was honest. He wanted
to ask about your family. He wanted to talk about
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the cricket that was going to be on in the
next few days. He managed always to talk me into
where the next race meeting was at. And was I
still interested in being a part owner of a race horse?
And I got right through a very long career with
him without shit, without giving him any of my money
for any of the horses that came fourth and fifth,
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which Tristie had. He was a guy who was well organized.
Though he would not watch a lot of cricket, but
he would read a lot of cricket. And when he
came to Lancaster Park in those early days when I
used to drive up from Dunedin to do some commentary,
I really look forward to meeting up with him because
he would have a theory on the way the game
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is going to go. He was just a nice guy
to be with and I'm sure that a lot of
people around New Zealand would realize it's a sad day
for New Zealand when we lose someone from the New
Zealand cricket family. And I think if Tristy as someone
who was genuinely a big part of that, and he
was proud to be part of the New Zealand cricket family.
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It's something he really took quite seriously.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah. Coached the Black Caps, he coached Hong Kong, he
coached the Netherlands. He coached in South Africa against for
the Eastern Province. They won a title there. He took
over from Steve Rixon and did a couple of years
and of course the ICC champions Trophy, our first international trophy,
was one under his leadership as coach and you know,
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a fun guy. I must admit I did upset him once.
I have to, I have to own up. I promised
to ring him and I never got through to him.
You know what you get when someone's there. You know
you cannot be reached at the moment, Can you leave
a message? And I did this for about four months
until he rang me one day complaining about the fact
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that I hadn't rung him. I said, I have, I've
rung you so many times. What's your number, Tristy? And
he gave me the number, which was totally different to
the number that I'd been ringing, and I said, I've
rung this number. He said, oh no, He said, I
lost that phone down in the yard or down in
the farm or down in the paddock about five months ago.
So I haven't been able to find it ever since.
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So we had a discussion about his last phone. But
it was that was the funny side of Tristy because
he could, you know, he could still make a joke
about that. And we solved the problems that come between us.
And it was about whether he was going to work
doing commentary, and I was spoke to ring him tell
him yes, he was, so that's one of my memories
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of Tristie. But touring with him too was also a
lot of fun in terms of the discussions that you
would have. And I guess you have an affinity Whiley
because you've been a coach, You've been in exactly the
same situation. You've shared the highs and lows of the team.
You live the team fos.
Speaker 7 (07:33):
I suppose.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
But you can only do so much for them. It's
when they go out in the park. You can't do anything,
can you.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
No, And I do think that Tristy did have a
style that was.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
In letter years.
Speaker 7 (07:46):
We've had different types of coaches and everyone is allowed
to be themselves when they take over a role as
serious as a coach of a national sporting team. But
he's very unassuming. He was in the background. He was
a supportive coach. He would quietly sit down with players
and talk about their family, their job, their ambitions in
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the game, where they were at, what they would need
help with. He wasn't seeking the media, he wasn't seeking
the forefront. Quite often you'd see teams arrive back from
overseas that Tristy had been in and they'd be at
the airport, Tristie would just be one of the guys
down the back, just pulling his bags through the airport, quietly,
not waving and seeking out someone from the media. He
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liked to be the supportive type of coach and I
think that was quite important in those days because in
the time that he took over after Steve Rixon, they
weren't easy days. And it certainly isn't easy for a
coach to come in and to try and fit himself
into the dressing room, to work out where he needs
to sit when he needs to speak, how to make
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sure that everyone's involved in the team, And Tristy was
one of those guys who thought about that, and if anything,
he really had a sympathetic year for the new players,
and I think he he helped bring a lot of
new players into the team and slowly change the way
the team was run. I think there was quite a strength.
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As I said before, he's pretty thoughtful, pretty organized, and
he was pretty genuine about wanting the team to do well.
Not David trist Well. He didn't want to. He didn't
want to stamp his mark on the team as if
it was his. He genuinely wanted the new Zealand team
to perform. Well, yeah he did, Jerry. Only you remember
when we were working in commentary set up. I mean
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a real talk fest was on, wasn't it. Wadle Coney,
David trust and of course another man who could probably
out talk a lot.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Of us, Peter Sharp. There was a fairy words delivered
in those occasions.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
Weren't they very hard to get on once? You didn't
want to actually spores of a sentence at all? Did
you somebody cut in immediately and take you down with
another idea.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah, that was a busy time.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, Chure was. And you know, Tristy left a lot
of good memories and it's said to realize that he's
now left us something. In the last couple of years.
I don't think he was particularly well, was he.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Yeah, Trusty in the last couple of years are really battled,
I think, And I know it's only about six months
ago that I tried to ring and see whether I
could go to see him in his place at Little River,
But of course he wasn't there, and therefore he was
struggling in later life. I just think again about trust
Even in his playing days for Canterbury, there were some
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very big names in the Canterbury teams, and very very
successful they were. That were the Colemans and Barry Hadley
at the top of the order, and there was Dale
and Richard and Alan Hounseill. For a while, Tristy was
never one who was getting the headlines. He never made
the main newspapers or the main radio commentary. He was
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always someone who was supportive person even as a player,
and I think he continued that in a lot of
his life. He was just a very very thoughtful person
and always, as I said before, was interested in what
people around him were doing. I think that's the real
strength that sometimes we don't all share with some of
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the coaches these days.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Yeah, well it's said that Tristy has passed away a
good friend Twyson. Of course, has probably been a sad
week in terms of the New Zealand create family because
Robert Jumbo Anderson passed away during the week as well.
And funnily enough, he played in the same first eleven
at christ Church Boys High School as David Tristan nineteen
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sixty four. I've seen a photo of that first eleven side.
Alan hounsel I think was also in that side as well.
I don't remember many of the other players, but a
sad passing for Jumbo Anderson I think played in the
Test match at the basin review of review Wally when
Music beat England.
Speaker 7 (12:09):
Yeah, he was there. Jumbo was one of those larger
than life characters that occasionally you see around the sporting fields,
in particular in cricket. He absolutely loved the game of cricket.
He loved people, He loved being around people who loved
the dressing room. A couple of things about the way
he played, and I don't mean this in any sort
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of derogatory manner at all, but a lot of players
who played with and against Jumbo over the years could
say he would absolutely murder a medium paced attack. He
could absolutely go out there in Hawk Cup cricket and
school record number of runs for Southam for so long
and kept the Hawk Cup in that area along with
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the Alabasters of course. But Jumbo was one of those
players in the dressing room if the team was down,
someone would be able to turn around, and he had that.
I mean, he was a big fellow. He was a big,
big smile on his face. When he was batting and
he'd hit the ball for four, he looked around and
he was waiting for the next ball and he was
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excited about being there. I'm sure someone in the opposition
teams would not see it quite the same way. But
when things were going well, yeah, Jumbo kept the whole
dressing room alive. And it is sad that, as I
said before, New Zealand cricket family had lost another one
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of the real characters of the game. And a lot
of people played a lot of fun games when Jumbo
Anderson was around.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Yeah, sad news that two of the family passed away
this week and rest in peace, David Tristan and Robert Anderson.
Speaker 8 (13:52):
Brian Waddell, Jeremy Cooney. On the front foot, we.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Had some news of well senior players getting awards in
the Queen's Birthday Honors. Deserved awards joined yours and Jerry's club. Actually, Wally,
you've both got the same gongs, haven't you. It's got
a different title now in MBE or Member of the
New Zealand Order of Merital whatever they call them now,
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Tim Soudy and Sophie Devine, and we wish them all
the best. Congratulations to them and another person who we
congratulate nothing to do with the cricket World. Jerry is
a friend of ours because he hosted us so many
times in Towering and Mount Bong and Ui when we
were up there for games. Brian Kelly, the fifty five
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years he's given to radio got himself an award as well,
so that's great news that we can also celebrate.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
Yea, he loves his cars too, doesn't he.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
He'll be hard to get him off that subject when
he's having a barbecue.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Certainly not on the front foot with Waddle and Cody.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He probably realized it was coming. It had taken so
long to fill the coach's role, but Black Caps coach
Gary stead'shighly successful seven years in charge of the national
side officially comes to an end when his contract finishes. Stead,
who last month confirmed each step away as coach of
the White Wall formats, was effectively ruled out of contentions
for the head coach role after New Zealand Cricket opted
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for one head coach across all three formats. Seven years
with some undoubted highlights.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
I think the clean sweep of India last year three
mila in India, considering it'd never been done before, is
probably the biggest highlight of the moment. We won the
World Test Championship obviously that's another one. I think making
what three finals and ICC events in that time as
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well shows the consistency that the team has played with,
and that's been one of the things I have always
said that I think Mike Essen and Brenda McCullum had
left the team in a really good spot and what
we needed to do was keep finding ways to be
consistent more often. And I think on the whole that's
been that's been done recently, well.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
He probably expected they might not split the roles, but
he doesn't feel let down by New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 9 (16:18):
Look, I understood that that was there was a fair
chance that that could happen, and that that that that
going down the route of one coach was a model
that they might still still look to take. And look,
I accept that there's there's no sort of Harbor's grudge
from me on on that side at all. That's the
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direction they think is best for the team. So and
that's ultimately all I want as well.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
And as of now, nothing new on the horizon.
Speaker 9 (16:47):
Look, I mean I want to stay involved in coaching.
It's it's something I'm passionate about. I enjoy seeing individuals.
I enjoy seeing teams try and maximize their performance. So
I'll try and take some of the learnings that I've
had in the in the last well thirty years really
of of domestic and international sport and see what I
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can apply and maybe you've used to other people in
the future. But look, I still want to have an
involvement in cricket as well because I think it's a
game that's given so much to me as well, and.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
The game has changed a lot even in that seven years.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
When you think about it, you don't have to look
at the IPL for a start off, don't you.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
Yeah, Look, I mean the franchises I think has made
the role of head coach a little bit more challenging
than what it was. And there's certainly a lot more
pressure on players now to look well, there's more pressure
coming from the outside for them to look elsewhere with opportunities.
And I still think that's a good thing though, that
players can maximize their earnings. But I think it is
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important from a New Zealand cricket point of view that
we do preserve the specialness and importantness I guess importance
of what that silver means on the chest.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So there's going to be only just the one coach
Warren Le's that was what you did as coach of
the New Zealand side. I sense the game has changed
dramatically since you were coaching. Hasn't any and the thanes
since you were in charge?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
I should imagine it really has. And there are times
when I think back on those days and think, how
do we ever get on going to Pakistan with that
first team where all we didn't have We had a
physio and we had a manager and we had a
radio commentator and that was a lot. These days, you know,
there's a big support staff. I think in Gary Steed's case,
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he's carried a big, big burden over the last few years.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
He's done it so well.
Speaker 7 (18:37):
He's done it so much in the style of the
old fashioned coaches. He's been in the background. He's been
an organizer. I think he's been the chairman of the
board in a way as far as the black Caps
are concerned. He's had four or five or even more
that he's probably had six or seven other coaches, bolloling coaches,
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fielding coaches, batting coaches, people coming in with psych service
and different things. So he's had a lot of people
to organize, but he's done it well. And he's also
taken over a team that Mike Hessen in a way
had developed along with obviously Brendan McCollum, and he's had
the same style or a wee bit as his more
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in the background, but obviously paddling very much under the
water and knowing exactly what's going on. I think he's
done a remarkable job. And while we can say it's
sad to go, I like his comments about well, there
is a time, there is a time to move on,
that it's not the end of the world, and there
are other things he could he may be looking at,
and I certainly hope he is, but there's also a
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time for family, and he's mentioned that so he knows
there are other responsibilities. I think congratulations to Gary Stead
for the way he's worked so hard at his game
from way back in the day when he when he
played for New Zealand and it wasn't a long career
as a player, but he knew that cricket was in
his blood and cricket was something he really wanted to
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be involved in, and he worked his way up from
the bottom of the ladder to taking the top team.
I think he's done a remarkable job and I just
hope that New Zealand Cricket in some way can reward
him in the future and not just forget him. And
I also hope they're organized with the replacement and the
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style of the replacement that they bring in to take
over from Garystead.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
I mean from a personal reaction from my distance that
I observed Stead, he always was diligent and hard working,
a very organized guy. Seemed very well planned. The New
Zealand side clearly meant a lot to him, and he
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was passionate about, you know, developing his charges and trying
to get consistency of performance from them. He tended to
retain players and be loyal to them, and I think
in New Zealand, with not many in the community there
her play cricket, that that's not a bad idea at all.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
He was loyal to them and they were loyal to him,
perhaps because he selected them.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
And kept on doing so.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
But I mean some thought at times he held on
to some players just a little bit long, and there
would be some also thought that the Wagner and Sow
the episodes towards the end was a little bit uneven treatment.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
But overall, you.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
Know, you cast your eye down the list of achievements
and he was right at the top of that. It's
an extraordinary list, isn't it really, guys? You know, from
runner up in that ODII in twenty nineteen to the
winning the World Test Championship and all the semi finals
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that he made in t twenties and ODI's the clean
sweep of India just last year surely highlight for him,
and then just recently the runner up and the champions truck.
I mean, it's a very impressive list for such a
small nation and he, as I say, oversaw all that
and we only get about what is at six to
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seven percent of the division of the money and distribution
I think.
Speaker 6 (22:27):
From World Cups.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
And you've also got to remember we haven't lost too
many players yet to sort of franchise fixtures all the time.
Players even like Seifered and Finale and and Nicham and
Conwan Williamson more recently, they still are keen to come
back and play for New Zealand when there are international opportunities.
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When they arrived, whether it's red or white ball, not
the same in the West Indies, not the same in
South Africa. You know, so I think really he's done
a terrific job. You know, whoever's going to be the
next coach? And I see they interviewed Shane Bond and
Urson Ronkey and Rob Walter, so you'd assume one of
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those Stead himself didn't get an interview. You just hope
that they can get similar sort of performances out.
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Of the players.
Speaker 7 (23:22):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Well we're going to be looking to see who are
the front runners word out of the dark corners. No
one will confirm it that it's basically between Rob Walter
and Shane Bond, but we will have to wait and
see what New Zealand Cricket delivered. When it comes to
the new coach, she's going to head New Zealand.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Brian Waddell Jeremy Cooney on the front foot.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
We have a boarding announcement here a boarding announcement for
mister j Coney. Your flight to London leaves shortly. You're
after the World Test Championship. We've better have a quick
look at that before you go. I picking Australia.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Oh wow, that's a good call, isn't it. Here was above?
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Well, if you if you look at any figures, and
I'm a kind of a that's where I make a start.
Speaker 6 (24:17):
Really, not that they mean that much.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
Really, you look at the number of tests that say
Australia have played seven hundred and fifty. If you go
through each player, select your side and go through each player,
add up the number of tests they played seven to fifty,
and then you look at South Africa three hundred and
thirty seven, so two times the number of tests plus
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seventy six.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
You look at the number of runs they've scored, They've
scored seventy seven more.
Speaker 5 (24:45):
And if you go down the averages of each of
those players and each of the sides, three seventy would
be the average score.
Speaker 6 (24:53):
Of course it never.
Speaker 5 (24:54):
Happens, but you know what I mean what I'm doing,
I'm getting a collective average from all the Australian players
who might play, and then doing the same for South
Africa and South Africa two ninety three and Australia three hundred,
and then the hundreds that the players.
Speaker 6 (25:11):
Have scored fifty five.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
For the difference between the two, Australia fifty five more
hundreds in their team than South Africa.
Speaker 6 (25:24):
That's a hell of a lot. Smith has scored himself.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
Fifteen more hundreds than the entire South African side. So
those figures clearly say that Australia would be set favorites.
I think I don't know what you guys feel about
the size themselves, because this is a one off test,
isn't it. But Australia have the players. They've been together
(25:50):
for a long time as a team. You know, they
have a few changes around the edges, but it's in
the engine room. You know that Kowaja, Labershane Smith head Care,
all the quips, Lion Green's you know joined recently and
even more so than Guy Webster.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
But you know they all.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Experienced different conditions and they found answers. They solved problems
on the field. South Africa can't match that. Their top
players are going to have to really play well. Robarda
Jansen the left armor and then maybe in the batting Aiden,
(26:29):
Markram and Bavooma are the ones. They all have to
play at their peak really, just the same as Richard
Hadley did in eighty five against the Australians when he
was way better than the Australian fast bowlers and thirty
three wickets and three Tests. So Robarda and Juhnson have
to be able to do that really, and the players
(26:50):
who support them, both seamers in the cordon and the
keeper have to hold everything.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
But their batting is fallible.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
You know, Rickleton and Desaucei at the top ten tests
and eleven tests, Beddington in the middle number five. Only
twelve test stubs might play nine tests. They just can't
quite match the Aussies and whatever metric that you call.
But it's a one off test, straight shootout.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I mean, if it's.
Speaker 5 (27:22):
Murky on day one and in the South Africa Bowl,
Robarda is good enough if he plays well to make
a mess of a top order and if it's dry.
Maharaj I think is a very fine left armor as well.
But the batting doesn't forge confidence. I've got to say
most of the average of low.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Surgeons looking at the Australian squad wally, they're still trying
to find an opening to go with Kawaja, aren't they.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Well, I must admit I looked yesterday at both teams
and as Juramy probably agree with me, I don't follow
it that closely, but I couldn't recognize because we don't
see them often enough, and they don't play as much, perhaps,
but I didn't recognize enough of the South African names
to think that they had it's to players. And you
(28:10):
go through the Australian team and really you can just
about reel offen eight, nine, ten players who are very
very good players and very experienced players. And I know,
as you say, they're still uncertain about their two opening batsmen,
but any two of probably four of their players are
(28:33):
so well organized at this level that I could only
see in a five day game without weather intervening and
things like that, I could only see Australia winning.
Speaker 3 (28:42):
Yeah, they South Africa don't seem to come up with
the team to win at the business end, Jerry Dog.
They've always sort of flattered to deceive. Yes, they're going
to win. We've got a chance. They've got a chance.
But they don't seem to quite make it at any time,
do they.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Well, they've made finals in the t twenties, haven't they
in the last last year, both the men and the women.
They're getting better, but I think in a Test match
in five days, we all know the better side has
the time as long as it's available to assert their superiority.
I mean, if you had to pick a combined team
(29:20):
between the Aussies and the South Africans, I reckon maybe
markrom at the top to go with Kwaja, but Smith
over Bavooma.
Speaker 6 (29:31):
You'd pick a head.
Speaker 7 (29:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
Then the fast bowl is come and stark Lion, perhaps
Ribada might make the side, so you could only really
see I think two of the South Africans pushing for
a position in that combined eleven and it kind of
gives you an idea about the two sides.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Yes, indeed, Well it's going to be interesting. It starts
next week at Lords and Jeremy will be there. He's
getting on the plane. Wally will be able to sit
back in now living rooms and watch through the night.
You know, there's plenty of cricket to be watched through
the night. I know you both do it on a
regular basis, watching cricket in the armchair at two o'clock
(30:13):
in the morning while I'm fast asleep. I don't have
time for that sort of carry on. So we wish
Jerry all the best, and I hope he sleeps on
the flight because I think he's getting off the plane
and going straight to Lords.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
Yeah, yeah, I am actually straight from straight from Singapore,
arrive in England and go straight to Lord's. It's great,
isn't it. I'll have a sleep there. Actually that's what
I normally do in common so you know that anyway,
was yeah, that's fine.
Speaker 7 (30:39):
Well. I can remember often turning around in the commentary
box to see you stretched out and on the back,
eyes closed, and with that twitching hip you've had for
a few years, which obviously been fixed. But there was
a long wait to get to get the new hip.
Speaker 3 (30:54):
Wasn't it?
Speaker 6 (30:55):
It was mate? It was mate?
Speaker 5 (30:57):
Have you because IRV McSweeney's had a new hip done
in the last three or four months.
Speaker 6 (31:03):
Ian Smith has had us have done as well, you keepers.
Speaker 7 (31:11):
My problem was Monees even though you thought the ball
went into the gloves quite often me on the on
the end of.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
The yeah, I got something else, had a good bottle
of gin. That'll be help, wouldn't it?
Speaker 7 (31:28):
One win missing one time?
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Remember one to one went missing? But never mind. We're
not going to carry on about that now. We're going
to wish Jerry all the best to the best flight
over there and enjoy the World Test Championship. So we'll
talk to you in the u k.
Speaker 8 (31:43):
J C yep.
Speaker 6 (31:44):
Thanks once. Yeah yet by all means.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
Being too much on my prison.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
That's all.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
I'll get that new knee for you.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Thanks guys, talking to your Niga summer.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
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