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Hello.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yes, it's that time again and it's on the front foot.
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And this week joining Jeremy Kaye and myself is the
President elect of Otago Cricket Warren kay Lee.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Wow. Well you can always you can always put up
with being the president because you only have that for
a fixed term, to be called the patron. You have
that for life. So I went to the president's job
at the stage. That's good.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I'm talking to two presidents of two different associations. I'm
going to I'm going to kneel throughout this podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I'm concerned, Wally, We've got to find something that Jerry
can be a president of.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
I don't wish to be. I don't wish to be.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
The meetings would be short with Jeremy.
Speaker 6 (02:03):
As he arrived late.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Yes, exactly, Yes, indeed, well, lobby, I look, I seriously
look forward to it.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It's two years and I've got six grandchildren, all of
the right age to go and watch cricket, so I'm
looking for an inland supply of free tickets. That's really
the main reason I took the job.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
And we'll have a meeting of presidents. I think during
the season would be a good idea, probably in Queenstown
with the England cricket team at the moment.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Changed from having most New Zealand cricket meetings in christ
It wouldn't it really.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, Well, England arrived in the country immediately headed the
Queenstown for four days. I presume it was a practice
campbell as both practice and golf. The team is led
by Harry Brook and of course he delivered the obligatory
platitudes on arrival and.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
The opportunity to play cricket fee country and put on
the Three Lands is awesome. So I'm really looking forward
to the next couple of months. And yeah, obviously we've
got this this series against New Zealand first and then
the Ashes after that, so it's going to be a
very cool time. Yeah, they're obviously a very good side.
They've got miss Santner in that series, who's obviously a
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vital part of their team. So I'm guessing he's going
to be coming back into the squad. He's a he's
a phenomenal player to be playing against. And yeah, there's
some some outstanding players there. So we're not going to
take any team lightly no matter who we're playing against,
and we're gonna go full foot of everyone. We always
want to be aggressive. We always wants to look to
put pressure on the bowlers as a batting unit, try
to take wickets and user dimensions as a bowling unit.
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And then in the field, chase the hard heart, chase
the ball hard to the boundary personally, and it's gonna
be the message to the team this is this is
completely different. Obviously, we've got the Ashes in a month's time,
We've got a T twenty World Cup in February, March time,
so we're building up towards that and this can be
a great stepping stone for that.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well there is Harry Brook. We're gonna play it hard,
we're gonna play it tough, and we're gonna play plenty
of golf. He didn't head into the unit far from
queens Gen. Have you been, Jerry and not Jerry, Well,
have you been to the England training camp? Have you
been there with your old OTAGA mate to help them
coach them?
Speaker 4 (04:16):
No?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
I was actually in Queenstown two of the days of
this week, and I knew that the England team were
their training I did hear that the jet boats were very,
very busy, and the golf two of the golf courses
they'd been to. It sort of makes me wonder just
how much things have changed. We used to go away
and practice twice a day in the four days leading
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up to any games on any tour, and yet they
went straight to Queenstown, which is probably the only time
they're going to get an international team in Queenstown this summer.
But it just seems that the game's changed to weave.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
But isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
They need their relaxation, They need to go into these
special places like Handma Springs or Queenstown and then they're refreshed.
And of course at the same time it was the
good idea for their coach to go there. Who's just
built a new house very close to Queenstown. So Brendan's
getting a new house built, very handy. Well, Jerry that
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he's in it.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
As the black Caps went to ham The Springs for
their sort of retreat and preparation, I caught that.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
I saw it on the telling. I mean there must
have been a thousand people there in the same room.
They've got some big rooms down there and hand the Springs.
They could have held it in one of the nice
warm pools, I would have thought, But no, there have
seen loads of people and they were what were they doing?
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Were they planning?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Yes, planning meeting? I would think right well, the planning
to do because to my mind, some of the components
of their game against Australia were seriously lacking and they've
got to smarten up in some aspects of their game,
don't they.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think it's very hard for them to get a
consistent selection of eleven players, and there's a variety of
reasons for that. People are unavailable to a lot of
players were injured different times. But I just can't get
over the number of players we seem to use. And
this is only a three match twenty twenty series. I
wouldn't mind being we'll use about seventeen players and it's hard,
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I think, then for captain coach to really work out
just how best to use some of those players. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, Kane Williams is not going to be there until
the adis Jerry. He sort of has the pick and
choose mentality at the moment. I suppose the coach, Rob
Wilder says he's in't the right to get a bit
of special treatment. But somewhere along the line, the fans
actually want to see the top players, don't they.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Well, yeah, well odies would suit him more, I would
have thought. I think the t twenties, even the New
Zealand is now leaving that kind of style that he
brings as.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
A sort of a stop of collapses.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
I don't think they. I think they just all go
for it nowadays, don't they. They're seeing quite a few
in that list Wadds that I saw that could open
the batting. I mean, you've got Pondway and Seiphered Seipherd's
probably the one who's more set there, I would have thought,
because he's got the gloves as well. But then you
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Robinson ken also open and Revender's come back, hasn't he
after damaging his face and that sort of thing on
some sort of boarding. So yeah, look there's there's four
into three won't go And I don't know what they'll
do for the ode eyes. But as as Wally says,
they've got a fair few options now, haven't they. They
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They can pick and choose. Still a few out I
see Seears has hurt himself again as he was.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Was, Yeah, well he's he's pulled aside. You're done a sidestrain.
I think in getting back into practice and preparing for
the season. It's the sad part about our quick balls now.
You know we were hoping that somebody like Willow Rourk
would be injury free. Well he's got a back problem
and out till Christmas. Ben Sears, who's got the pace
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side of things, has also got issues. Hopefully the return
of Kyle Jamison might see him with an extended career,
but is he going to be as effective after the
injuries he's had leading into a period of injury free cricket.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I actually think that we've got such a good and
strange enough experienced group of pace bowlers now. And when
I say experienced, they've been on a lot of tours.
People like Duffy you've actually sat on the planks most
of the time on those tours. He's had probably more
tools than his head games for New Zealand. But I
do really think that the fast bowling stocks, or the
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medium pace to fast bowling stocks are pretty strong at
the moment. I know we have a lot of injuries
and I don't know how I don't know how the
preparation goes for some of these going they're in a
bowl four overs. I mean it's pretty hard you still
some players are still warming up in their third over.
But I think we've got a good group of medium
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paces that we can use any of them and they'll
all be pretty effective. I just think that the middle
order and the fifth bowler becomes a bit of a
problem for our team sometimes.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Yeah, well, we were a bit weak against the Aussies
with our attack were apart from the fact we didn't
get enough for runs, which is another important component of
the T twenty cricket. The bowling didn't seem to be
as organized as particularly the Australian bowlers did it.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
Jerry, No, the Aussies and they brought basically, I mean
apart from Hazel where they brought you know, some of
the chaps who are sort of on the edge of
getting into certain sides. They've got quite a few twenty
twenty bowlers, haven't they, And they.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Were just a bit more accurate.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I thought that our bowlers and Mitch marsh was in
such good form up front that he just he blasted
and muscled them, and so they didn't quite know what
to do. I didn't think really. They kept on dragging
it down a little bit, just sort of a decent length,
and he just smashed them back over their heads or
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over the covers or backward a point and then they
went short and he smashed them sort of legside. So
he dominated the whole of those those well, the two games,
really didn't he he did. He sort of won the
game for them that last match. So yeah, but I
think while was right, I think that we have got
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some good seemers coming through. Duffy has proved his worth already, Jamison.
You've mentioned about he's he might have lost a little
bit of pace, but he now swings it a bit.
Henry has really come on, hasn't he? And the new
lad Folks is looking as if he might swing the
ball a bit and it's going to be a bit
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like Larance Kenes used to be. He'll give things a go.
He's a bit of a gambler as a bowler. He'll
try and so he'll go for wickets, do you know
what I mean, rather than perhaps tying things up.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I think sometimes one of the mistakes that our players
still make. I like the introduction of the Australian attitude
to the way we play the game, and I think
that's changed in the last two or three years. And
we have confidence in the next batsman coming in. We
have confidence when we make a bowling change. And I
think all the players have been around each other on
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the plane, in the hotel, in the dressing room at practice,
and even though they haven't had consistent games, I think
they all have a bit of a fuel for each other,
which I think is quite strong for us. The problem
is for some of the bowlers who just don't seem
to get enough match bowling. I think they tend to
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look for an easy excuse sometimes. I mean in twenty
twenty cricket, they've got to know what their own plan
is and stick to their best type of bowling, whether
it be full or whether it be slightly back at
the length or whatever. And if we get ahead a
couple of times, you can almost see the bowler running
and thinking, I'll try something different. And that's one thing
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that the Australian bowling attack. You don't see them do
that very often, that they stick to their plan and
they have confidence in each other. And I think we
just had that wee bit of doubt sometimes about the
fourth ball of the over and we've just gone for
a two and a boundary and we think we'll do
something different. That's a confidence thing that really has to
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go through the whole team.
Speaker 8 (12:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Interestingly, the plans that are ahead and we're going to
be talking to twenty cricket for most of the rest
of the summer. It seems there's a Test series coming
up against the West Indies, but it's the short form
game that we are going to be talking about. I
think you're even back in the confry box, Wally, aren't you.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah. It sort of reminds me of the time that
mister McDermott rang me up and asked me to be coach.
I think a lot of people had pulled out. They
got down to my name, and I think the time
that when he ran me to ask me to be coaching,
he said, well you weren't actually my favorite. I thought
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that was pretty weird. And now I'm back in the
comfry box for a couple of stints. Obviously there are
people down there aren't a lot of people south of
christ Churts available.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Yeah, well, I just wonder whether you might also be
able to offer Nolan Dame Nolan Tara a bit of
a helping hand. Coaching seems to be a hard gig
at the moment.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Oh, look, isn't that. It's sad. It is actually sad.
It's sad for the sport. It's sad for New Zealand sport.
So for those things to happen, and we've had a
few we've had a few different problems in different sports
lately throughout the country and it's not a healthy sign.
And you feel for the individuals who were probably deeply
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cut by some of these things, and you just wonder
how the situation can get to that. It's a lack
of professionalism, I think.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Before we move on to the white fans. I don't
know why I do it, but I look at some
of these obscure websites and there's a website in Australia
that's picked the top one hundred Australian crackers of all time. Now,
there's a fair number of names that you can put
in there, and your own personal order would be very interesting.
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But it's very difficult when you've got a top one
hundred that includes Bradman, Warn Ponting, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
But in that top one hundred.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
No Ray Lindwill, no Neil Harvey, and no Doug Walters
and Arthur Morris sitting at one hundred. You've got to
sort of look at it and say, why do I
read these websites?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Well, I don't know why you're reading it was I wouldn't.
I haven't used chat. What does GPT stand for? Anyway?
But look, I mean no, I don't. I don't have
a clue. I certainly haven't seen that list onds. What
are you doing with your life? But they are they
are pretty prominent names. I bet most of them are
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more modern players.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yes, well, there's a fellow called Bollinger and featured in
the top one hundred.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Really okay, yeah, I think that.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
It's just it's the sort of.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Thing that he was there for his drinking.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
There's the sort of thing that retired people have time
for wards. Oh, they can sit back and think, I
might just have a week go at this and see
just who we could do the same thing in New Zealand.
I suppose, although we probably only get to about twenty.
But I think it's something that people who have got
a lot of time on their hands, and then it
develops into something bigger, and then someone will make contact
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and say, no, I disagree. You know, he was a
bit of left arm spinner than someone else. I suppose
it feels in their time. So when you do look
at those sort of lists, you get people that we've
never ever heard of, really, don't you. Yeah. I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
What you're both saying to me is that I'm spending
too much of my time looking at things that are
totally a relevant.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
The three of us you have most of the free time.
That's exactly right.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Ah, all right, I'll continue reading my History of Test
Cricket written by Tim Wigmore. That's a lovely book to read,
and there some great old stories. I found out things
about Jack Hobbs I didn't know, but that's that's another
story make.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
The list either.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I'm actually reading a Phil tough No book at the moment,
How Not to be a Cricketer. And he is a
very very funny man, probably a funnier man than he
was good at cricket. Really, I'm only halfway through it,
but I laugh at every second page. Somewhere there's in there.
There's something about him that reminds me of certain players
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within the New Zealand camp as well.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
Yes, well, there's a lot of a lot of comments
been made about him, more against him on a number
of occasions. Certainly he was a lot of fun to
work with in the contrary box. I think Jerry might
have appreciated that too when he was over in England.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
Brian Waddell, Jeremy Coney on the front foot.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Let's talk about the white ferns. Things not going their way.
But I guess a point versus Sri Lanka is better
than nothing. But still, I've got the hard yards to
be done. It's going to take wins over Pakistan. It's
next India and then England to guarantee your place in
the Semis and they may require some other team results
to assist. Well, I've just had a wash out. Captain
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Sophie Devine was upbeat.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
Yeah, like I thought the work was a pretty good
cricket work. We were probably looking around maybe a two
thirty two. He was probably past score on that.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Disappointing that we probably leaked a few runs towards the
back end, but they had wickets in hand, so I
guess they earned that right to be able to be
super aggressive and you know that they batted well throughout.
So yeah, we were looking forward to an exciting chase.
I thought the wicket was still going to be a
really good cricket wicket, so shame that we couldn't get
I guess on the park the rain had the final say.
But we'll you know, reflect and review and move forward. Yeah, absolutely,
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I think. I guess an interesting part was obviously there's
a bit of noise coming from the band in the
stand that I know personally I couldn't hear a thing
out there, So there's something that we'll talk about as
a group. So I think it's gonna be really important,
especially as the crowds may potentially get a little bit louder.
So again, that's all just learnings for us and how
we I guess go through that process on the field.
But look, I guess the positive thing from that is
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that we were creating opportunities. I guess it's up to
us now to make sure that we can execute and
take these take those chances.
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Yeah, tough to come away from a washed out game
when you need a win. They were chasing down a
big total. Do you look at some of the score
sheets of the games have been played, Jerry, and you
know Indian women scored three point thirty and we're beaten
two hundred and fifty one and we're beaten by South
Africa two fifty two. It's it's a tough road to
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hoe for the the White Ferns at the moment, isn't it.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Yeah, the rain hasn't helped, wodd says it.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
And New Zealand are playing Pakistan next as you say,
and that's in Sri Lanka as well, same place. That's
the second that New Zealand matches, the second game reigned
out in the tournament in Colombo. But really I think
it's probably the loss to South Africa that had hurt
New Zealand more. I just I look, two thirty seven,
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two thirty one, two twenty seven.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Those are the three totals.
Speaker 5 (19:56):
New Zealand have posted batting first. I mean, two thirty
isn't enough nowadays, as you point out, I mean the
women's game has moved on from that and they are
now sort of two eighty to three hundred or above
three hundred. Aren't they the better sides? I mean as
a team, they're just in New Zealand aren't giving themselves,
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it seems to me, enough chances to win. They just
aren't playing as confidently as I've seen them play before.
Speaker 6 (20:29):
The top order.
Speaker 5 (20:33):
And then the entire lower order are just not contributing,
I'm afraid. So everything is relying on numbers four, five
and six in the batting order, and Divine has responded
really well. Helladay has been good and Green well, Green's
averaging sixteen. Perhaps she can do a bit more number six,
but I mean the first even the first ten overswads
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in the game. The power play. New Zealand have been
thirty six for two in the first game against Australia,
thirty eight for one against South Africa in the second game,
and in the third game against Bangladesh they were.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Thirty five for two.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
So look, seven overs of dots in the first game
in the first ten overs, eight overs of dots in
the second game for the first ten overs, and seven
overs again in the in the against Bangladesh. And the
players I mean, I know, anyone can get out, and
Bates has had a couple of early dismissals, but it
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leaves Plimmer, who's on a strike rate of forty and
also Ameliacus on a strike rate of fifty two together
for the rest of the ten overs, and so you're
not going anywhere in the games. You're getting thirty runs
off your ten r first ten overs. Plimmard, I don't
know you guys, did you watch Plimmer play in the
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World T twenty Cup. She was whacking it, you know,
striking it cleanly over the bowler's head down on the
ground quite often. That's my memory of her and how
she played. She was hitting it strongly. But this tournament
she's been easing it to cover and easing it to
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the bowler and so on at a pace that which
you can't even take a single.
Speaker 6 (22:24):
So she's either got to block it or hit it hard.
You know she can do that.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
I don't know quite why she's changed her is very
strangely quiet with the bat. She's got five wickets with
the ball, but they just both seem a bit reticent.
I don't know what you guys think of that. And
then for just to finish the point, seven, eight, nine, ten,
eleven are averaging sixteen one point three nine two point
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six one and they are in for this length of
balld thirteen three one one point two if you can
even face one for that. So we're not getting no
time for partnerships from five down. That's I went from
number seven there that from that they're not having a
chance to form partnerships, and so other sides are getting
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ahead of them, and other teams. It's becoming known as
a tournament of the number seven and eights getting eighties
and sixties and winning matches from those two positions. So
we're missing out there as well. So that's why I
say four, five and six. And the last thing I
want to say about their batting is the six runouts
that they've had in three innings. Glimmer and green gays
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and cars and baits and curse. So we need a
little session I think on calling and judging a run
and those are That is a lot of runouts for
three innings, isn't it really.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
I have had a little bit of a conversation with
one of the players. I think that the stress of
not performing in that game against South Africa is still
continuing and the communication of the players when they're batting
is not happening. I mentioned before about the teams. We
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have confidence in each other, the Australian attitude. You know,
if I do get out, the next play is just
as good as me. It doesn't matter. I could go,
I can play my shots because we have faith in
each other. Or they don't know, and deservedly they don't
because one of the key points that you made there
is we're never ever going to do well in these competitions.
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Whether it be twenty overs or fifty overs doesn't really
matter too much to the girls. In a strange way,
because we make the same mistakes. We don't score enough
runs ever in the last quarter of the of the
of the innings because we don't have any of our
best players still there now. The most runs in domestic
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cricket are actually scored in the last five overs or
the last six or seven overs of an innings, if
you've got your best players there, and it sort of
just looks like everyone is hesitating, as if as if
there's not a team plan about the whole thing. You're
right about the first teen overs, but but of course,
because we're losing a wicket in the first over, even
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in the first ball. Occasionally, the younger players who I know,
I know baits and divine and curve, and we know
how good they are, but they're so far ahead of
the other players and experience and and there, and their
past has been so successful that the other players are
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just grateful to be there, perhaps not playing their own
game that has been successful, not not always, but they've
got to actually go out there, and the body the
there's not a positive approach. And you can even see
when the two girls do come together at the end
of and over, it's hesitant and and they and they
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then they accordingly they go back that way. We can't
expect us to do really well when we accept that
our numbers five, six, and seven can't none of them
can go on and get fifty. Well. We need everyone
on the team to be able to contribute. And it's
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almost like they need a serious tour, but that's really
not going to encourage them to perform. And it's also
not just kidding put an arm around their shoulder and
saying tut tut, it's all right, because even has to
take their own responsibility and this is brandically. I have
just been amazed at how disappointed I am sitting up
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through the night and being slightly angry the next morning
that it's a repeat of the game before and they're
playing for New Zealand, they're not playing just for their province.
It's not an under twenty one tournament. It's actually a
World Cup tournament where these girls deserve better, and so
do the people who sit through the night. Yesing forward
to something better.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
To totally with your while, I've watched a couple of
other games and I feel angry at the end of it.
Speaker 6 (27:11):
I've seen that before. Was it about four days ago?
You know?
Speaker 5 (27:17):
I would really like that, and I suppose I am,
because I'd really like them to do well.
Speaker 6 (27:21):
But I'm not surprised now, you know.
Speaker 5 (27:25):
And even in the bowling, we've got a strange side,
haven't we. We kind of we've kind of picked medium
paces and everybody else has got three spinners. You know,
one spinner was we had to come back because she
was injured, and we picked them another medium pacer in
Hannah Row.
Speaker 6 (27:45):
I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I mean, we're trying to manufacture a spinner out of
Maddie Green, bowling about three or four overs sometimes and
then we've got Why should we be surprised We've got
twenty one extras in the two matches ago twenty one
with fifteen wives and thirty extras against Bangladesh. That's not
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a bad total down the bottom.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
The other last point I'll make about the girls at
this stage, and good luck to them. We hope they
do very well these next few games. But if it
doesn't matter who plays for our team, our last four
batters in the New Zealand team will not score twenty
runs between them, correct, And they're not going to. We
don't expect them to score the majority of our runs.
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It's not actually their job. But they could help out
and doesn't matter. Will be seven girls could be in
the last four places in the batting order. I don't
care who they are. If you can name whatever for
you want, but no matter who you name, they will
not score twenty runs between them and that has been
that the way the New Zealand women's team have been
probably for about ten years now. That isn't good, yep.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
And that's something that we're going to have to watch
over the next couple of games. Of course Pakistan is
an important must win, but India and England it's going
to be difficult running out of time on the front foot.
But I just want to a quick one buy you
guys and get a point in view from the New
Zealand Cricket is exploring the commercial viability of fielding a
men's and women's team in the Australia's Big Bash. Now,
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this is a subject it's going to be around for
a while, but I just want to get a general feeling.
Do we want to be part of the Big Bash League.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
Wads? I'm taking the view for this. I mean it hasn't.
Speaker 5 (29:29):
We haven't been invited for a start, have we. That's
the first thing. Secondly is I don't know whether it's
a women's side as well. And thirdly I think probably
it's not a new concept for a New Zealand to have,
you know, playing in Australian competitions. We got soccer and
rugby league and indoor basketball and netball for a while,
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wasn't it. But I tend to look at it from
a developmental point of view, these kinds of questions, will
it lift the level of our players and our better players,
Can they get more growth and so that when they
are selected safe in New Zealand, it's not a massive leap.
And I would have thought, to be honest, looking through
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the players, you've got to concede that that is a
much higher level than our super Smash. I don't want
to go through all the players. That'll take too long,
but it's you know, they are higher level. It's a
more intense competition. It is more competitive and the strongest skills.
And I do think if we did have a team,
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it would be a composite side. There would be some
international players and when there's usually three of those, and
I had a quick look at the squads New Zealand
players are all already there as another group Steifered, Ferguson, Monroe,
Finnellen and probably Niche and might go as well in
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that group. So there's a few more and then you
get then Australia may insist on having some New Zealand
black Caps as well. Maybe three or four of those,
and then finally, of course you want some a players
to go into there. But I don't think it's anything
like would it affect would it affect the super Smash? Yes,
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it probably would a bit for a while.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
I think so.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
And the costs. Aren't they selling them all? Aren't they
trying to sell as one of the options from some
report from some group telling the Australians have a look
at see if you can get some money. And so
it may well these franchises may be owned by some
wealthy kind of magnates and combinations of investors. I would
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have thought so they might handle the costs.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I would prefer that they stay to here. I'd prefer
that they stay with their provincial sides as much as possible.
We can't afford to weaken our provincial cricket anymore anymore
than it is at the moment. I know what happened
by having some of our girls go to Australia and
playing different teams over there. Individually, they went off to
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different teams, they came back much much more confident players
and performed a lot better. Maddy Green is a really
good example of that. A girl who struggled for a
long time in the international game, but a couple of
seasons in Australia are century in one game and all
of a sudden she was away. It was and I've
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talked to some of the girls about that. It wasn't
just playing the game, it was feeling part of a
team and feeling confident sitting beside internationally recognized players in
the dressing room, because we still have that era of
we're not we're not ready, We're we're in awe of
the of the well known players. And I think the
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only good thing I can see about us joining a
competition or even sending individuals over there is the fact
that that's one thing we can overcome. We can realize
that we're all the same, We've all got the same opportunity,
and I know that changed some of the girls quite
a lot. I don't know that Australia would be particularly
interested in having us.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I don't know. Well, that's how I say. They haven't
invited us at all, have they.
Speaker 5 (33:13):
What Australia get out of it, Well, we suppose they
get some money to try and sell another franchise.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
That's right, you're talking about the commercial side of it.
There's going to be a big cost somewhere in New
Zealand to get a team over there, but that may
be quite a loss.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's just the thing our game, our game can't afford
is you know. You're talking figures in around ten, fifteen,
twenty million, you know, and that is a huge expense
for the game. But it's going to be a subject
that I think is going to.
Speaker 6 (33:44):
Texas a little bit.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
New Zealand Cricket are investigating at the moment, and I
have heard that in the near future they're likely to
make an announcement, so we'll be interested to see what happens.
So we've got sort of one slightly and favored Jerry
and Will.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 5 (34:02):
From a developmental point of view, I think it would
provide a nice little pathway for all those super smash
players as well.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
And you are yet to be convinced, Wally.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Ah yet to be convinced. But financially, you wouldn't like
to see any of our other tournaments lessened in importance.
I'm more into looking after the young and the youthful
sides rather than looking at the top players. They get enough,
they're around the world.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Now, Yeah, I think it's a subject we can refer
to again as decisions are made by New Zealand cricket.
We've got the tea twitties in christ Hitch Hagley Oval,
and then of course there's the one days against England. Jerry,
You'll be back on the road commentating at some stage,
I'm sure, and while he's going to be climbing the
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box at University Oval and Dunedin. So summer's almost here,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
Well, I'm looking forward to the temperature down here twenty
three degrees the other day, nineteen today, brilliantly unny skies
and people are are really looking forward to the summer.
I look forward to it. I I just think it's
a pity we haven't got any internationals in Queenstown, but
with that will come around.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
And well yeah, oh well, we look forward to hearing
Wally and hopefully you recover from your minor kerfuffle with
you your hand, which I think is fifty seven years old,
isn't it.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Well, it's been a long time and it's it's an
old cricket injury and it was a long time since
I played, but it finally caught up with me and
I've had the cast on for eight weeks now and
I've got another four weeks to go.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
All right, We'll keep your hands to this, LUF, that's
the main thing. Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
And what's that, Jerry? Thank you for your time.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yeah, cheers, what yeah? What?
Speaker 1 (35:56):
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