October 28, 2025 • 25 mins
In this final deep dive into Leigh Hart’s Mysterious Planet, we meet a man who claims to have had sex with aliens in Roswell, and we learn that the final disastrous alcohol-fuelled shoot in Miami ‘probably’ became the inspiration for the blockbuster movie The Hangover.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
This is an iHeartRadio New Zealand podcast. Welcome to Page Talk. Well,
thanks to Ober one and it's a bit of a
special episode today because we did, of course last week
(00:28):
have the Mysterious Planet Part one where we had a
chat to host of the TV show Lee Hart and
well we got about halfway through it and we delved
into a few of the mysteries, but didn't have enough
time last week. So I'd like to welcome back once
again to the show Lee Heart.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thanks man, great to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And yeah, mysteries out there certainly suck up time and
took a lot of my life, you know, making that show,
and many of other researchers before me, documentary filmmakers, I mean,
last time we.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Cover it off your biggies, your Locknest, Monster, Bigfoot, Marshall, Peachew,
Musha pe Peru, Musham Pichue.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So we're getting around the world, man, We see that
we're traveling around and that's really putting a lot of
strain on us as a film crew, on the budget,
starting to squeeze.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What was the biggest cost you found with making this
TV show?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Wages? Yeah, I think you know, cameramen aren't cheap. Shot
medical bills.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, I was gonna say, if you have to pay
for the medical bills after snake bites, it's probably an
unforeseen cost.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
TV you've made, but you normally make a rap party
after the end of a series, you make it a
twelve part series something, or you know, end of the year,
you have a.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Rap party the whole crew.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We tended to do that after every show or sometime
after every day sometimes just because we didn't know where
it was going to end up. You know, we're in
a different country, different cultures. You need to sort of
become a part of that. So we moved on from Scotland.
After Graham Cosby, one of the researchers, we were looking
into a lot ne this master Worth.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He had a nervous breakdown.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I think we lifted at him and Chase and you
didn't get up with a camera tripod.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We left him to go back to try and patch
up his marriage, which I don't think he's done in
that time.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I don't know where he is now.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
We find ourselves in New Mexico, in America the Rosbell incident.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Wow, okay, and tell us more about that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well a bit of background on that. Of course, it's
probably the most well documented UFO.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Incident in history. Ninety twenty seven. Apparently a strange metallic
disc crashed in the desert there. The farmer finds it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Air Force check it out where the alien bodies on.
There was that, perhaps a weather blue and that crashed
over the years, Matt, as you can imagine with these mysteries,
they can get convoluted, you know, Chinese whispers, all kinds
of theories.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So we were there to get to the bottom of that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And did you get to the bottom of answering any
of those questions you just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, we've got off the bad start because we arrived
at the Roswell Festival. I suppose a good time to
go and do this, because you've got a lot of
people in one place.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But we went to our first event we got kicked
out of it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Is there like a music festival or well there was.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Music there, funny enough as a carnival, there's a parade as.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
A cultal event.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But we were there for the serious spinness of UFO
rese and that was just the back job. We went
to our first seminar. I supposed to talk to these
UFO experts, and we got thrown out of that because
of our experience at the Bigfoot conference, you know a
number of weeks earlier, so.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The Roswell conference got wind of view of Bigfoot Conference.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's amazing that the Bigfoot people contacted the Roswell people
saying that we're on our way there and to not
let us in because we're there to undermine the thing.
We were actually there as serious researchers, and I don't
understand what's the correlation between Bigfoot and UFOs. Just because
you believe in the lot of you, smartster, it doesn't
(03:43):
mean you have to believe in Bigfoot or UFOs.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But do you find there is a lot of cross
over there.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
With the type of people that believe in them, Yes,
there is, But as far as facts or et cetera.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That doesn't have to be one could be real, one
might not be.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You don't sort of sign up to believe in everything
that is on the verge of being unbelievable. That's more
of a personality trait, I think, than and their logic.
And we were trying to bring logic to this this
discussion with our documentary crew. So we wanted to go
to the desert to the exact place where the UFO
apparently crashed and bring some technology there and to try
(04:19):
and find some remains there was.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It was it the same technology as you had when
you were in Scotland looking for long miss or at
different times.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
That was more border based technology obviously, you know, being
in a loch. But in the desert we were using
our sort of pretty powerful metal detectors.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Add in the desert there they'll pick up anything.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You know that too much actually was betting stuff up
in the car and that you know, you have to
take every all your keys out.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Of your pocket, you'd have to hear move.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
We had to move all the snacks that had foil
around them with chip packets that they had to be
moved away from the area we're looking at. Even the
guys that ended up taking their pants off, they had
zips and stuff and there in their on their clothing
because that'd get picked up and give me bad reading.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And we found some interesting stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, like in one of the most interesting pieces we
sent off to the labs, turned out that was a
the steering column of a of a buick.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Have you seen one of those four buick? A steering column.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
To a buick potentially, I hadn't before that, so that
was interesting. And then we had this we we we
found these amazing tiny bits of foil around.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The place where like a gel on them. You know,
I thought this could be it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Could be out of this worldly of anything. We sent
that off that no, no, it wasn't you. That turned
out to be the the foil packets for a condom,
and that was the the gel.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think there's a gel that they used for.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Anti lubricant, you know, I might be lubricant, might be
lub I think it was more like a spermicide type
of thing or a lubricant. Maybe there's two and one.
I don't know what the point is. It wasn't anything
that we were looking at. So there's some disappointments with
some of our results. But it only got worse.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Kind of after that.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Right, how So one of the cameramen, luckily it wasn't
the one that got been by a snake back, a
different one here sinus issues and he would have anti
histamine for those issues.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And I went to his bag and.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To find the anti histamine, and I gave it to him.
I thought I had turned out. I gave him anti
venom for snake bones, and that's quite different than anti histamine.
Don't know how much anti histamine you've ad or or
even anti venom, and antie venom is actually made from venom.
So technically he was bitten by a snake that even
been bitten by snake.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So you were indirectly in charge of basically two camera.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
With snake related injuries. So we had to take him
to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Lost another couple of days there, I'm back on the
tools filming a lot of the stuff, A lot of
the best shots actually is a lot of stuff I got, but.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I wouldn't go on by that.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So yeah, then we're there and we get into the
fast eventually, and that's where we get probably our best stuff. Yeah,
and that's interviews with eyewitnesses, people that have been abducted,
had you know.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Close encounters is the word encounters that happened with big Foot,
not once.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
A similar that, But I think these are very compelling.
I think you need to hear it from some of
these eyewitnesses.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Roll that footage can me You'll fall in into my
mom's yard in nineteen fifty four, and I was born
listening a year later.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So you're saying you're actually born of alien.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
All I know is that her husband had thought she
cheated on him, and she never did, you know, And
my mom was gold. She never do nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
She's a good Christian woman.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
With the aliens and roswell, the same as the ones
that you saw, the big heads in the eyes.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, some of them are Yeah, no genitalia.
Actually they do have genitalia, but not. I didn't see
it on the males, but I know it on the
females because I actually have intercourse with those females several times.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
All right, you had intercourse with the female.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, several times, Yes, several times. Yes, before they let
me go in the one night. No, they kept me
but a week.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And that whole time you were having sex with aliens.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, well not all the time having sex with them,
but no I didn't, I don't know. I didn't have
anything we'll do with them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But well, that is pretty powerful stuff, so that that
sexual encounter was more consensual than the bigfoot one UK.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, well it seemed to me.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I'm not sure how it works on a mother ship,
but he certainly believes that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So we are they dealing with someone there? Who's had
a very legit close.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Encounter with the being from another solar system, or someone
with serious mental health issues, and either way.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It makes good TV. Yeah, I think he goes on,
doesn't he?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Since I had their devices in my head, I used
their devices to control their ship with and stuff. They
didn't know how I did that because I have more
advanced technology in me. So instead of doing the mean
things to me, they became my friend. They offered me
to technologist. I don't want this man kinds you're not
ready for.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He'll destroy the world.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That was an incredible interview there, and unfortunately for us
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Another one of the more compelling interviews on the show
was from one of our crew members, aj the producer.
He recalls been abducted by aliens himself years ago, so
I think we've got some footage of that.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
He was very reluctant on the show to even talk.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
About this, but I sort of bumped up his wages
and we got to talk about that on the show.
And this is pretty powerful stuff. So I'll just give
you a sample of that. Not the whole thing was
a bit too powerful.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
He told me he was a medical professional from another
galaxy and he wanted to just run some tests on me.
He took some your iron off me and then took
fluid out of what seemed to be one of my ears,
and then things started to get crazy. I blanked out
for a while. They put a rect on mind probe
(09:44):
up my pass and started downloading information about Earth from
my brain.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What do you think they learned?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I don't know, but it was up there for a
how of a long time. They were using a very
slow mode.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, there you go. And obviously we have to reenact
that with images and stuff. I mean that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, and obviously the image you see there, that's the
recreation that we did in the house to sort of
show what went on. And yeah, I like to think
that the you know, in real life, it wouldn't look
that cheap, you know, for Ajo's sake, I don't think
that would have used to bicycle pump like that to
download information from his backside. And yeah, and it makes
(10:26):
a question once again, why would they want to do that?
What are they trying to get?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
What are they trying to achieve?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
There?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Exactly? There's always history with this stuff too. One of
the other major interviews we did was with someone who's
actually on the base back in the day when they
brought the alien bodies in.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Apparently their bodies. Well, this is what the claim is.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
This was a fairly compelling, hard hitting interview, was slightly
undermined by the fact that the sergeant at the time
was now a fully fledged transvestite now, so it's very
hard to take him as serious as when he was
in his military uniform in many ways. But this is
the sort of stuff we were up against as a crew.
We didn't have an issue with that just before it
(11:06):
was in this Occo.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
This stuff's never definitive. That's what makes the mysteries. That's
what makes some great mysteries. Man.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yea, yeah, powerful.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
We didn't meet miss New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Did you make the cat for the for the show?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What so did you end up solving the mystery?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, we didn't. Well we moved on from there anyway.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We're mentally we moved on and we're already saying to
have our gear on to the next mystery anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
All right, So were was that mystery?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh? That will of course. We'll go to Egypt, as
you do.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Might stop me there just for a moment, we'll take
a quick break and we'll be back to talk about
the next mystery in Egypt. Welcome back to pay to
Talk and this is the Mysterious Planet Special, Part two,
where we're talking to host and producer of the TV
show Lee Hart. Now we've just been in Roswell. Now
we're moving on to Egypt.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Whoa slow down, man, Not so fast. Yes, we're after
Egypt to look at the pyramids. But on the way,
what better place to stop at Stonehenge in England. We
stopped along the way there, but that wasn't with that
its issues either. The first thing, once you get there,
look it's it's semi impressive, but once you get there
you realize.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You know, why did they finish it?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's so historic?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I think you've got to grow up.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
If it was so good, they would have finished it,
wouldn't They wouldn't put that up there.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So look, we did a brief study of Stonehenge, spent
a bit of time there and then moved on. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So how long were you there?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
For?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
About four and a half minutes?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think, as you think the van might have been
running the whole time and were stretched at the airport.
And of course after Egypt, we had a lot of
work to do that a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Work to do, so he didn't solve the stone. Inche mystry.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't think it was one to solve. I mean
people brought the stones there, they put them on top
of each other. They didn't finish. And so we went
to Egypt and we had, you know, bigger fish to
fry so to speak with the pyramids and the Sphinx,
the Sphinx.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What did you say that the sphinx? Ye, sphinx, Yeah,
the spinx, not spinx, the sphinx, sphinx.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, what demands some people call it the spinx, right,
some of the Sphinx and the pyramids?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right? And how did that go?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Not good? And in what way?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
What is it like sort of going to these places
and seeing these these mysterious objects and things.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, it's a good.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Question because as a documentary filmmaker, a docco filmmaker, if
you want to shorten that, it's tough for me because
we get a permit to film in front of the
Pyramids or.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The Sphinx, and it's for.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Like forty five minutes, and you know, so we're trying
to get through a lot of script and a lot
of data, a lot of information for the viewer. So
you got to remember, I'm facing the camera. The pyramids
are behind me. This is my one time, a lifetime
opportunity to talk about the pyramids and see the pyramids
and feel them.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And I'm not even looking at it really, you know,
I'm brand on camera.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
He's looking at it, but even he's not seen it
probably either because he's looking it through a viewfire and
he's trying to look for the best, like stand face.
So you're not kind of really experienced anything. But anyway,
we had a lot of stuff to get through. Who
built them?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Why you establish that?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, it's pretty obvious, I think when you get there.
They built them because they wanted to, you know, who
built them?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The Egyptians.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Then again, was it Aliens Stonemasons from another solar system
on a bigger.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Contract, the same ones from Marshia Phiue the same ones.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
This is a bigger contract. And then it was done
before Marsha Pihie. I mean it's common sense comes into
it again. My father's a sort of us in construction
and stuff. And if you bring a common sense approach
to the stuff which he tends to do, which I
find quite refreshing, also quite annoying. If you want to
build something that high as the Pyramids, which is used
(14:53):
to be the highest structure I think until the Eiffel
Towers built, If you want to build.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It that high, you have to have a base that big.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If you told some kids, if you gave him a
whole lot of blocks and said, build the highest thing
you can me long before they worked out that they'd
have that base bigger, smallest and going up like that.
It was only in recent times with steel and concrete
that you go sort of straight up. But point there
is it proves they actually didn't have that much technology,
and you suddenly see it as if it was just
(15:22):
revealed overnight. It wasn't the top thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So you could argue that at this stage you've still
not solved any mysteries, but your father's self one.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well, yeah, I think we weren't going around the world
trying to debunk mysteries.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But there was a slight.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Attitude to it, like state the obviously if you can
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We ended up in the desert and.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
We were luckily enough to be invited into a very
very privileged in fact to this dig that you know,
no one being on. This is a very fresh dig,
and they were going in there, and we brought our
camera crew were the only camera crew on hand at
the time that could document what was going on there.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
That was pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And what was going on there, Well, we got kept
off that. Actually in the end, well we got invited
back on and me she has, I say, because we
only crew in the area.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So they got us back in. Well, we found a
Initially there was.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
A cave, and we thought what better place to use
some of our technology, which again we had the sand
Rover two thousand with a.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Kind of a camera on.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It took a lot of convincing to get the head
of the dig to give us permission to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean, initially it was it was quite good. It's
quite impressive. Darta came through there. But then we kind
of lost control of the went rogue.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Jeresney has gone rogue and is not responding to basic commands.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Come back j But.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Then and once again the Mysterious Planet team and their
technology have been ejected from the dig.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think there was another occasion after that they pulled
up a mummy.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
That's the sort of the mummy the two.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yes, cliche kind of thing. And I've never seen anything
like that before. And I've done a lot of research.
I'm an expert and a lot of stuff. But that's
my ancient Egyptian was. You know, I'm not bad, but
it's been like my French I suppose, you know, I'm
sort of I can.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Communicate in it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You're bad but not good.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I can order a beer and that kind of stuff,
you know, and I can't read hieroglyphics that well.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know. You know, so as you knows. As a
doco team, we're trying to bring what we.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Can and to this Egyptian dig and you know, our
reputation is on the line here and New Zealand's reputation. Yeah,
I mean, they don't know what's gone on before. So
we thought would make it up to them by lending
them some of our computer stuff that we had they.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Didn't some stats and data wow no more.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Sort of facial recognition technology. Yeah, pretty pretty top hands stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So we did this and there's a big slow render
of course, but you know, we got the whole team
there and pretty powerful moment for us. You know, this
was make your brain for us, could be related to
some of the very people there on the dig. Pretty
powerful stuff, you know, and this is the peak of
the doco too, you know. So of course we're all
there and the face becomes clear and clearer, and I
(18:13):
don't know if it was me versus it was Ah,
but we we start to notice this looks very familiar
to this guy. I've seen this guy before. I'm not
sure if the local Egyptians said I'd seen it was
prob very much like Gary Boosey, you know, the actor,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, as in fact, it looks exactly
like him. So I'm not sure if it was pulling
data from somewhere else on the computer or or somehow
(18:35):
how that managed to infiltrate you know, that software.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
But they'd end up being called the Gary Busie.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Mummy, right, and again we're kicked off the gig and
ridiculed in many ways. Well they were as well, which
made it worse than we could move on. They couldn't.
They were stuck there and you know, everyone at the
university and local people were you know, mocking them and stuff.
But gave us a chance to get back in the
city to Cairo and do some research about you know,
(19:03):
the pyramids and why they built them. And one of
the theories I was trying to get across that the
shape of the pyramid, which is the obviously the trig
or the pyramid or the upside down v shape was
representing the v the veggie, the vagina, the vagin I.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Think gonna say sort of Illuminati, Yes, very much.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like that, the vagu, the vagine, vagina.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
So I got that across to one of the top
Egyptologists in Egypt, and he didn't go down well onither.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So he's just gonna laugh at me.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But it was tough there as well, you know, Brandon camera,
he got food poisoning again.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So because once again I'm doing a lot of shooting.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Was that your fault? Like the snakes?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What sure about that?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Actually, we did have a big night in a karaoke bar.
I think were singing money for Nothing, you know I
on mine You remember that, you know the n TV Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And then we did have some seafood from the Nile.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So perhaps that's when when Bretty got done. You know
what I ended up. I ended up having the film
to say, sets and stuff again.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah right, I don't think it betters where you are.
I don't think you should trust the seafood a karaoke
bar probably.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, you're right, and you probably should never see food
basket and the oysters from the Nile. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
So we moved on from there and went off to
finish off. You know where else you finished a shout
at that Bermuda Bermuda.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So just before we go to Bermuda, Egypt, do we
solve any mysteries in Egypt?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Okay, all right, We're just gonna take another quick break.
We'll come back with Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Welcome back to page to talk. This is the Mysterious
Planet Part two special where we've got host, producer and
well co host of this podcast as well, Lee Hart.
Now we've covered off a number of the mysteries so far,
but I think finally we're on to the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
You know, we've we've been all over the world by
the stage, and of course we're finishing off and in Florida,
Miami to look at the Bermuda Triangle. Of course, you
know a bit of background to those just joining us
and changes the mystery.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's an area off the coast.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Of Florida, Miami where a lot of planes, ships, you
name it, have gone missing.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
There's a lot of theories, you know, as a you know, as.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
A UFOs again, magnetism, sea spouts, you name it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
There's been all sorts of theories put forward, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So we're really looking forward to this, but you've got
a member of the time we got there to do this,
we'd really done the budget on this show.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So I've got to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Before we even got to Miami, I knew we wouldn't
really be doing a show there. I already already decided
that we were going to use the mystery itself as
a way of not actually making an episode, you know
what I mean. So let's pretend to head out and
we go missing in the tining ourselves, but which would
mean we don't have to have to make an episode
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at all.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So you okay, I see what you're doing, Smoke and Mersey.
So you didn't actually make it out too.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We let to stretch it out for the length of
an episode and the rest is whatever recap from the
episodes I meant before, Right, So we're kind of milking
footage twice podcast, well this is more so. This is
milking it the third time in a way. So you've
got to remember, this budget really has been blown. We've
had some issues with it. So we with what's left.
(22:21):
We filmed the infamous boat scene going out, and then
we decided to have, you know, a real proper wrap
party in Miami. I think we deserved it. It's been
pretty tough going and we had a pretty big night
with what was left of the funds. You know, the
TV's credit card. But if you've seen the movie The Hangover,
(22:42):
I have, yes, Okay, I'll explain it backwards.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
We woke up one morning all bit worse for wear,
and we're trying to find the credit cards or any.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Cards or anything at all for the trip. From the
trip we'd lost at all and we literally had nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So it was kind of panicking because we still need
to get home, and we got we've got no credit cards.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
There's like we've been mugged kind of thing, and just
laying on the floor.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
There is the one of the small little handicam cameras
which we sometimes talk out at night just in case
we see anything interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
To film.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So I don't know whose idea it was. They said, look,
why don't we have a look on the camera and
see if there's any clues as to what happened.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We said, that's you know the hangover movies, just like this.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So we're all on the bed, crouch around, looking at
the looking at the camera, you know, scrolling back on
the little viewfinder.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You've seen us all going.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Out and a few nightclubs partying, and then we get
to a scene. The very last piece of footage filmed
is three of the guys sort of frolicking around in
this fountain in the in the middle of town, diving
and swimming and everything in the fountain. So we go
down a reception and we say to the show them
the footage, do you know where this is this location?
And picture goes, oh, no, so that it's a fountain
(23:55):
down two blocks down there to the left, and we said, okay, great,
So we're running down there, and sure enough, we get
to this fountain and in this fountains floating on the
receipt credit cards, anything we had, credit cards, pull this
paperwork or that, just floating in the things that we're
in there, grabbing it all and that's how we found
the cards and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There no way we would have found that, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And then you had to hand those receipts back to
the TV's.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
In Yeah, we receipts. So it worked out.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
There was a real sort of example of you know,
life imitating ard and that getting in the you know,
the mood of trial going missing. We kind of did
go missing many ways in the last episode, you know. Yeah,
but yeah, a great way to finish an epic epic series.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, and then this was a very good sort of
deep dive into that that series. Would you ever consider
doing a season two?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, you couldn't make a show that?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Now, why couldn't you make another show like that?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They would say it couldn't be done?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Who would say you couldn't be done? An you mean,
well you said that? Whose day?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Or the people that would the people that would say
you couldn't do it, they would say, well, you could
do it.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You probably could do a show. I mean we could
do it. Yeah, we could do it. Yeah, Well probably
would do another one. Yeah, we'll do another show like that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, what would you do it on? Sort of what
miss is? These sounds like EM three eighty or any
mean well, because you know you've covered off mushroom, Pi Shue,
you've done Roswell the Pyramids with the.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You will do those again. We just do the same
ones again.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
We didn't solve them the first time, so we'll just
do them again, go back to the same places, but
just do it better.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Right cool. Well, Lee, thanks for thanks for joining us
on on Page Talk.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
On Can I just say that before you sign off,
it's been really cathartic for me doing this and letting
a lot of this out. It's been bottled up inside
of me. You know, a lot of the crew that
got hurt and stuff been able to talk about that. Yeah,
the fortunate nature of some of it, you know, it's
just been great to get on my chest and and
and and talk to people about it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's great to hear. And I'm glad you could join
us on page Talk and thank you for the Unfiltered June.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I guess thanks for coming over.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, well, thanks for thanks for having me. Yeah, and
I guess I'll just see you next week since we
both co host this podcast.
This is an iHeartRadio New Zealand podcast. Welcome to Page Talk. Well,
thanks to Ober one and it's a bit of a
special episode today because we did, of course last week
(00:28):
have the Mysterious Planet Part one where we had a
chat to host of the TV show Lee Hart and
well we got about halfway through it and we delved
into a few of the mysteries, but didn't have enough
time last week. So I'd like to welcome back once
again to the show Lee Heart.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Thanks man, great to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
And yeah, mysteries out there certainly suck up time and
took a lot of my life, you know, making that show,
and many of other researchers before me, documentary filmmakers, I mean,
last time we.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Cover it off your biggies, your Locknest, Monster, Bigfoot, Marshall, Peachew,
Musha pe Peru, Musham Pichue.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
So we're getting around the world, man, We see that
we're traveling around and that's really putting a lot of
strain on us as a film crew, on the budget,
starting to squeeze.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
What was the biggest cost you found with making this
TV show?
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Wages? Yeah, I think you know, cameramen aren't cheap. Shot
medical bills.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, I was gonna say, if you have to pay
for the medical bills after snake bites, it's probably an
unforeseen cost.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I don't know how much.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
TV you've made, but you normally make a rap party
after the end of a series, you make it a
twelve part series something, or you know, end of the year,
you have a.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Rap party the whole crew.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
We tended to do that after every show or sometime
after every day sometimes just because we didn't know where
it was going to end up. You know, we're in
a different country, different cultures. You need to sort of
become a part of that. So we moved on from Scotland.
After Graham Cosby, one of the researchers, we were looking
into a lot ne this master Worth.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
He had a nervous breakdown.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I think we lifted at him and Chase and you
didn't get up with a camera tripod.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
We left him to go back to try and patch
up his marriage, which I don't think he's done in
that time.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I don't know where he is now.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
We find ourselves in New Mexico, in America the Rosbell incident.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Wow, okay, and tell us more about that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well a bit of background on that. Of course, it's
probably the most well documented UFO.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Incident in history. Ninety twenty seven. Apparently a strange metallic
disc crashed in the desert there. The farmer finds it.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Air Force check it out where the alien bodies on.
There was that, perhaps a weather blue and that crashed
over the years, Matt, as you can imagine with these mysteries,
they can get convoluted, you know, Chinese whispers, all kinds
of theories.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So we were there to get to the bottom of that.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
And did you get to the bottom of answering any
of those questions you just mentioned.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Well, we've got off the bad start because we arrived
at the Roswell Festival. I suppose a good time to
go and do this, because you've got a lot of
people in one place.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
But we went to our first event we got kicked
out of it.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Is there like a music festival or well there was.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Music there, funny enough as a carnival, there's a parade as.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
A cultal event.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
But we were there for the serious spinness of UFO
rese and that was just the back job. We went
to our first seminar. I supposed to talk to these
UFO experts, and we got thrown out of that because
of our experience at the Bigfoot conference, you know a
number of weeks earlier, so.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
The Roswell conference got wind of view of Bigfoot Conference.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It's amazing that the Bigfoot people contacted the Roswell people
saying that we're on our way there and to not
let us in because we're there to undermine the thing.
We were actually there as serious researchers, and I don't
understand what's the correlation between Bigfoot and UFOs. Just because
you believe in the lot of you, smartster, it doesn't
(03:43):
mean you have to believe in Bigfoot or UFOs.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
But do you find there is a lot of cross
over there.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
With the type of people that believe in them, Yes,
there is, But as far as facts or et cetera.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
That doesn't have to be one could be real, one
might not be.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
You don't sort of sign up to believe in everything
that is on the verge of being unbelievable. That's more
of a personality trait, I think, than and their logic.
And we were trying to bring logic to this this
discussion with our documentary crew. So we wanted to go
to the desert to the exact place where the UFO
apparently crashed and bring some technology there and to try
(04:19):
and find some remains there was.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
It was it the same technology as you had when
you were in Scotland looking for long miss or at
different times.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
That was more border based technology obviously, you know, being
in a loch. But in the desert we were using
our sort of pretty powerful metal detectors.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Add in the desert there they'll pick up anything.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You know that too much actually was betting stuff up
in the car and that you know, you have to
take every all your keys out.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Of your pocket, you'd have to hear move.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
We had to move all the snacks that had foil
around them with chip packets that they had to be
moved away from the area we're looking at. Even the
guys that ended up taking their pants off, they had
zips and stuff and there in their on their clothing
because that'd get picked up and give me bad reading.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
And we found some interesting stuff.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Yeah, like in one of the most interesting pieces we
sent off to the labs, turned out that was a
the steering column of a of a buick.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Have you seen one of those four buick? A steering column.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
To a buick potentially, I hadn't before that, so that
was interesting. And then we had this we we we
found these amazing tiny bits of foil around.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
The place where like a gel on them. You know,
I thought this could be it.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Could be out of this worldly of anything. We sent
that off that no, no, it wasn't you. That turned
out to be the the foil packets for a condom,
and that was the the gel.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
I think there's a gel that they used for.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Anti lubricant, you know, I might be lubricant, might be
lub I think it was more like a spermicide type
of thing or a lubricant. Maybe there's two and one.
I don't know what the point is. It wasn't anything
that we were looking at. So there's some disappointments with
some of our results. But it only got worse.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Kind of after that.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Right, how So one of the cameramen, luckily it wasn't
the one that got been by a snake back, a
different one here sinus issues and he would have anti
histamine for those issues.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
And I went to his bag and.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
To find the anti histamine, and I gave it to him.
I thought I had turned out. I gave him anti
venom for snake bones, and that's quite different than anti histamine.
Don't know how much anti histamine you've ad or or
even anti venom, and antie venom is actually made from venom.
So technically he was bitten by a snake that even
been bitten by snake.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
So you were indirectly in charge of basically two camera.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
With snake related injuries. So we had to take him
to the hospital.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Lost another couple of days there, I'm back on the
tools filming a lot of the stuff, A lot of
the best shots actually is a lot of stuff I got, but.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I wouldn't go on by that.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
So yeah, then we're there and we get into the
fast eventually, and that's where we get probably our best stuff. Yeah,
and that's interviews with eyewitnesses, people that have been abducted,
had you know.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Close encounters is the word encounters that happened with big Foot,
not once.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
A similar that, But I think these are very compelling.
I think you need to hear it from some of
these eyewitnesses.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
Roll that footage can me You'll fall in into my
mom's yard in nineteen fifty four, and I was born
listening a year later.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
So you're saying you're actually born of alien.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
All I know is that her husband had thought she
cheated on him, and she never did, you know, And
my mom was gold. She never do nothing like that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
She's a good Christian woman.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
With the aliens and roswell, the same as the ones
that you saw, the big heads in the eyes.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
Oh yeah, yeah, some of them are Yeah, no genitalia.
Actually they do have genitalia, but not. I didn't see
it on the males, but I know it on the
females because I actually have intercourse with those females several times.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
All right, you had intercourse with the female.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, several times, Yes, several times. Yes, before they let
me go in the one night. No, they kept me
but a week.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
And that whole time you were having sex with aliens.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, well not all the time having sex with them,
but no I didn't, I don't know. I didn't have
anything we'll do with them.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
But well, that is pretty powerful stuff, so that that
sexual encounter was more consensual than the bigfoot one UK.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, well it seemed to me.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I'm not sure how it works on a mother ship,
but he certainly believes that.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So we are they dealing with someone there? Who's had
a very legit close.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Encounter with the being from another solar system, or someone
with serious mental health issues, and either way.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It makes good TV. Yeah, I think he goes on,
doesn't he?
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Since I had their devices in my head, I used
their devices to control their ship with and stuff. They
didn't know how I did that because I have more
advanced technology in me. So instead of doing the mean
things to me, they became my friend. They offered me
to technologist. I don't want this man kinds you're not
ready for.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
He'll destroy the world.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
That was an incredible interview there, and unfortunately for us
as well.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Another one of the more compelling interviews on the show
was from one of our crew members, aj the producer.
He recalls been abducted by aliens himself years ago, so
I think we've got some footage of that.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
He was very reluctant on the show to even talk.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
About this, but I sort of bumped up his wages
and we got to talk about that on the show.
And this is pretty powerful stuff. So I'll just give
you a sample of that. Not the whole thing was
a bit too powerful.
Speaker 5 (09:23):
He told me he was a medical professional from another
galaxy and he wanted to just run some tests on me.
He took some your iron off me and then took
fluid out of what seemed to be one of my ears,
and then things started to get crazy. I blanked out
for a while. They put a rect on mind probe
(09:44):
up my pass and started downloading information about Earth from
my brain.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
What do you think they learned?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
I don't know, but it was up there for a
how of a long time. They were using a very
slow mode.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Well, there you go. And obviously we have to reenact
that with images and stuff. I mean that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, and obviously the image you see there, that's the
recreation that we did in the house to sort of
show what went on. And yeah, I like to think
that the you know, in real life, it wouldn't look
that cheap, you know, for Ajo's sake, I don't think
that would have used to bicycle pump like that to
download information from his backside. And yeah, and it makes
(10:26):
a question once again, why would they want to do that?
What are they trying to get?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
What are they trying to achieve?
Speaker 2 (10:31):
There?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Exactly? There's always history with this stuff too. One of
the other major interviews we did was with someone who's
actually on the base back in the day when they
brought the alien bodies in.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Apparently their bodies. Well, this is what the claim is.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
This was a fairly compelling, hard hitting interview, was slightly
undermined by the fact that the sergeant at the time
was now a fully fledged transvestite now, so it's very
hard to take him as serious as when he was
in his military uniform in many ways. But this is
the sort of stuff we were up against as a crew.
We didn't have an issue with that just before it
(11:06):
was in this Occo.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, you know, yeah, no, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
This stuff's never definitive. That's what makes the mysteries. That's
what makes some great mysteries. Man.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yea, yeah, powerful.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
We didn't meet miss New Mexico.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Did you make the cat for the for the show?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Sorry?
Speaker 1 (11:25):
What so did you end up solving the mystery?
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, we didn't. Well we moved on from there anyway.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
We're mentally we moved on and we're already saying to
have our gear on to the next mystery anyway.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
All right, So were was that mystery?
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Oh? That will of course. We'll go to Egypt, as
you do.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Might stop me there just for a moment, we'll take
a quick break and we'll be back to talk about
the next mystery in Egypt. Welcome back to pay to
Talk and this is the Mysterious Planet Special, Part two,
where we're talking to host and producer of the TV
show Lee Hart. Now we've just been in Roswell. Now
we're moving on to Egypt.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
Whoa slow down, man, Not so fast. Yes, we're after
Egypt to look at the pyramids. But on the way,
what better place to stop at Stonehenge in England. We
stopped along the way there, but that wasn't with that
its issues either. The first thing, once you get there,
look it's it's semi impressive, but once you get there
you realize.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
You know, why did they finish it?
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's so historic?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I think you've got to grow up.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
If it was so good, they would have finished it,
wouldn't They wouldn't put that up there.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I think you're wrong.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
So look, we did a brief study of Stonehenge, spent
a bit of time there and then moved on. Right.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
So how long were you there?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
For?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
About four and a half minutes?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think, as you think the van might have been
running the whole time and were stretched at the airport.
And of course after Egypt, we had a lot of
work to do that a lot of.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
Work to do, so he didn't solve the stone. Inche mystry.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I don't think it was one to solve. I mean
people brought the stones there, they put them on top
of each other. They didn't finish. And so we went
to Egypt and we had, you know, bigger fish to
fry so to speak with the pyramids and the Sphinx,
the Sphinx.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
What did you say that the sphinx? Ye, sphinx, Yeah,
the spinx, not spinx, the sphinx, sphinx.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Yeah, what demands some people call it the spinx, right,
some of the Sphinx and the pyramids?
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Right? And how did that go?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Not good? And in what way?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
What is it like sort of going to these places
and seeing these these mysterious objects and things.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, it's a good.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Question because as a documentary filmmaker, a docco filmmaker, if
you want to shorten that, it's tough for me because
we get a permit to film in front of the
Pyramids or.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
The Sphinx, and it's for.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Like forty five minutes, and you know, so we're trying
to get through a lot of script and a lot
of data, a lot of information for the viewer. So
you got to remember, I'm facing the camera. The pyramids
are behind me. This is my one time, a lifetime
opportunity to talk about the pyramids and see the pyramids
and feel them.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
And I'm not even looking at it really, you know,
I'm brand on camera.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
He's looking at it, but even he's not seen it
probably either because he's looking it through a viewfire and
he's trying to look for the best, like stand face.
So you're not kind of really experienced anything. But anyway,
we had a lot of stuff to get through. Who
built them?
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Why you establish that?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well, it's pretty obvious, I think when you get there.
They built them because they wanted to, you know, who
built them?
Speaker 2 (14:23):
The Egyptians.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
Then again, was it Aliens Stonemasons from another solar system
on a bigger.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Contract, the same ones from Marshia Phiue the same ones.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
This is a bigger contract. And then it was done
before Marsha Pihie. I mean it's common sense comes into
it again. My father's a sort of us in construction
and stuff. And if you bring a common sense approach
to the stuff which he tends to do, which I
find quite refreshing, also quite annoying. If you want to
build something that high as the Pyramids, which is used
(14:53):
to be the highest structure I think until the Eiffel
Towers built, If you want to build.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
It that high, you have to have a base that big.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
If you told some kids, if you gave him a
whole lot of blocks and said, build the highest thing
you can me long before they worked out that they'd
have that base bigger, smallest and going up like that.
It was only in recent times with steel and concrete
that you go sort of straight up. But point there
is it proves they actually didn't have that much technology,
and you suddenly see it as if it was just
(15:22):
revealed overnight. It wasn't the top thousands of years.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So you could argue that at this stage you've still
not solved any mysteries, but your father's self one.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Well, yeah, I think we weren't going around the world
trying to debunk mysteries.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
But there was a slight.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Attitude to it, like state the obviously if you can
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We ended up in the desert and.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
We were luckily enough to be invited into a very
very privileged in fact to this dig that you know,
no one being on. This is a very fresh dig,
and they were going in there, and we brought our
camera crew were the only camera crew on hand at
the time that could document what was going on there.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
That was pretty cool stuff.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
And what was going on there, Well, we got kept
off that. Actually in the end, well we got invited
back on and me she has, I say, because we
only crew in the area.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
So they got us back in. Well, we found a
Initially there was.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
A cave, and we thought what better place to use
some of our technology, which again we had the sand
Rover two thousand with a.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Kind of a camera on.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
It took a lot of convincing to get the head
of the dig to give us permission to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
I mean, initially it was it was quite good. It's
quite impressive. Darta came through there. But then we kind
of lost control of the went rogue.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Jeresney has gone rogue and is not responding to basic commands.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Come back j But.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Then and once again the Mysterious Planet team and their
technology have been ejected from the dig.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
I think there was another occasion after that they pulled
up a mummy.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
That's the sort of the mummy the two.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yes, cliche kind of thing. And I've never seen anything
like that before. And I've done a lot of research.
I'm an expert and a lot of stuff. But that's
my ancient Egyptian was. You know, I'm not bad, but
it's been like my French I suppose, you know, I'm
sort of I can.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Communicate in it.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
You're bad but not good.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 3 (17:21):
I can order a beer and that kind of stuff,
you know, and I can't read hieroglyphics that well.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
You know. You know, so as you knows. As a
doco team, we're trying to bring what we.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
Can and to this Egyptian dig and you know, our
reputation is on the line here and New Zealand's reputation. Yeah,
I mean, they don't know what's gone on before. So
we thought would make it up to them by lending
them some of our computer stuff that we had they.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Didn't some stats and data wow no more.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Sort of facial recognition technology. Yeah, pretty pretty top hands stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
So we did this and there's a big slow render
of course, but you know, we got the whole team
there and pretty powerful moment for us. You know, this
was make your brain for us, could be related to
some of the very people there on the dig. Pretty
powerful stuff, you know, and this is the peak of
the doco too, you know. So of course we're all
there and the face becomes clear and clearer, and I
(18:13):
don't know if it was me versus it was Ah,
but we we start to notice this looks very familiar
to this guy. I've seen this guy before. I'm not
sure if the local Egyptians said I'd seen it was
prob very much like Gary Boosey, you know, the actor,
but yeah, yeah, yeah, as in fact, it looks exactly
like him. So I'm not sure if it was pulling
data from somewhere else on the computer or or somehow
(18:35):
how that managed to infiltrate you know, that software.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
But they'd end up being called the Gary Busie.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Mummy, right, and again we're kicked off the gig and
ridiculed in many ways. Well they were as well, which
made it worse than we could move on. They couldn't.
They were stuck there and you know, everyone at the
university and local people were you know, mocking them and stuff.
But gave us a chance to get back in the
city to Cairo and do some research about you know,
(19:03):
the pyramids and why they built them. And one of
the theories I was trying to get across that the
shape of the pyramid, which is the obviously the trig
or the pyramid or the upside down v shape was
representing the v the veggie, the vagina, the vagin I.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Think gonna say sort of Illuminati, Yes, very much.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Like that, the vagu, the vagine, vagina.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
So I got that across to one of the top
Egyptologists in Egypt, and he didn't go down well onither.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
So he's just gonna laugh at me.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
But it was tough there as well, you know, Brandon camera,
he got food poisoning again.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
So because once again I'm doing a lot of shooting.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Was that your fault? Like the snakes?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
What sure about that?
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Actually, we did have a big night in a karaoke bar.
I think were singing money for Nothing, you know I
on mine You remember that, you know the n TV Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And then we did have some seafood from the Nile.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
So perhaps that's when when Bretty got done. You know
what I ended up. I ended up having the film
to say, sets and stuff again.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Yeah right, I don't think it betters where you are.
I don't think you should trust the seafood a karaoke
bar probably.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, you're right, and you probably should never see food
basket and the oysters from the Nile. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
So we moved on from there and went off to
finish off. You know where else you finished a shout
at that Bermuda Bermuda.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
So just before we go to Bermuda, Egypt, do we
solve any mysteries in Egypt?
Speaker 3 (20:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Okay, all right, We're just gonna take another quick break.
We'll come back with Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Welcome back to page to talk. This is the Mysterious
Planet Part two special where we've got host, producer and
well co host of this podcast as well, Lee Hart.
Now we've covered off a number of the mysteries so far,
but I think finally we're on to the Bermuda Triangle.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
You know, we've we've been all over the world by
the stage, and of course we're finishing off and in Florida,
Miami to look at the Bermuda Triangle. Of course, you
know a bit of background to those just joining us
and changes the mystery.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
It's an area off the coast.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Of Florida, Miami where a lot of planes, ships, you
name it, have gone missing.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
There's a lot of theories, you know, as a you know, as.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
A UFOs again, magnetism, sea spouts, you name it.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
There's been all sorts of theories put forward, you know.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So we're really looking forward to this, but you've got
a member of the time we got there to do this,
we'd really done the budget on this show.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
So I've got to be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
Before we even got to Miami, I knew we wouldn't
really be doing a show there. I already already decided
that we were going to use the mystery itself as
a way of not actually making an episode, you know
what I mean. So let's pretend to head out and
we go missing in the tining ourselves, but which would
mean we don't have to have to make an episode
(21:56):
at all.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
So you okay, I see what you're doing, Smoke and Mersey.
So you didn't actually make it out too.
Speaker 3 (22:00):
We let to stretch it out for the length of
an episode and the rest is whatever recap from the
episodes I meant before, Right, So we're kind of milking
footage twice podcast, well this is more so. This is
milking it the third time in a way. So you've
got to remember, this budget really has been blown. We've
had some issues with it. So we with what's left.
(22:21):
We filmed the infamous boat scene going out, and then
we decided to have, you know, a real proper wrap
party in Miami. I think we deserved it. It's been
pretty tough going and we had a pretty big night
with what was left of the funds. You know, the
TV's credit card. But if you've seen the movie The Hangover,
(22:42):
I have, yes, Okay, I'll explain it backwards.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So what happened.
Speaker 3 (22:45):
We woke up one morning all bit worse for wear,
and we're trying to find the credit cards or any.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
Cards or anything at all for the trip. From the
trip we'd lost at all and we literally had nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
So it was kind of panicking because we still need
to get home, and we got we've got no credit cards.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
There's like we've been mugged kind of thing, and just
laying on the floor.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
There is the one of the small little handicam cameras
which we sometimes talk out at night just in case
we see anything interesting.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
To film.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So I don't know whose idea it was. They said, look,
why don't we have a look on the camera and
see if there's any clues as to what happened.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
We said, that's you know the hangover movies, just like this.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
So we're all on the bed, crouch around, looking at
the looking at the camera, you know, scrolling back on
the little viewfinder.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
You've seen us all going.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Out and a few nightclubs partying, and then we get
to a scene. The very last piece of footage filmed
is three of the guys sort of frolicking around in
this fountain in the in the middle of town, diving
and swimming and everything in the fountain. So we go
down a reception and we say to the show them
the footage, do you know where this is this location?
And picture goes, oh, no, so that it's a fountain
(23:55):
down two blocks down there to the left, and we said, okay, great,
So we're running down there, and sure enough, we get
to this fountain and in this fountains floating on the
receipt credit cards, anything we had, credit cards, pull this
paperwork or that, just floating in the things that we're
in there, grabbing it all and that's how we found
the cards and stuff.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
There no way we would have found that, you know.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
And then you had to hand those receipts back to
the TV's.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
In Yeah, we receipts. So it worked out.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
There was a real sort of example of you know,
life imitating ard and that getting in the you know,
the mood of trial going missing. We kind of did
go missing many ways in the last episode, you know. Yeah,
but yeah, a great way to finish an epic epic series.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, and then this was a very good sort of
deep dive into that that series. Would you ever consider
doing a season two?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Well, you couldn't make a show that?
Speaker 1 (24:45):
Now, why couldn't you make another show like that?
Speaker 2 (24:48):
They would say it couldn't be done?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Who would say you couldn't be done? An you mean,
well you said that? Whose day?
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Or the people that would the people that would say
you couldn't do it, they would say, well, you could
do it.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You probably could do a show. I mean we could
do it. Yeah, we could do it. Yeah, Well probably
would do another one. Yeah, we'll do another show like that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah, what would you do it on? Sort of what
miss is? These sounds like EM three eighty or any
mean well, because you know you've covered off mushroom, Pi Shue,
you've done Roswell the Pyramids with the.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
You will do those again. We just do the same
ones again.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
We didn't solve them the first time, so we'll just
do them again, go back to the same places, but
just do it better.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Right cool. Well, Lee, thanks for thanks for joining us
on on Page Talk.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
On Can I just say that before you sign off,
it's been really cathartic for me doing this and letting
a lot of this out. It's been bottled up inside
of me. You know, a lot of the crew that
got hurt and stuff been able to talk about that. Yeah,
the fortunate nature of some of it, you know, it's
just been great to get on my chest and and
and and talk to people about it.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
But yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's great to hear. And I'm glad you could join
us on page Talk and thank you for the Unfiltered June.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I guess thanks for coming over.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, well, thanks for thanks for having me. Yeah, and
I guess I'll just see you next week since we
both co host this podcast.
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