September 30, 2025 • 27 mins
It’s mating season at the ecolodge - luckily not with Leigh, Matt or our guest Jordan Mooney. This week we cover disasters, including but not limited to this podcast, plus we discuss acting gigs with Jordan Mooney, like playing Jordan Luck, his new film that just came out and taking Karl Urban's dog hostage.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
This is an iHeartRadio New Zealand podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, no, no, I'm just discribed to be out the nature
again up here at the at the lodge.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So see, did you notice that chirping outside?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, that's the bird's nest outside on top of the
roof there, and I've noticed the same two birds. I
think it's the same two birds coming back start a
family again. I'm not sure if there's eggs in there
at the moment. What I noticed this morning those birds,
one was on top of the other and that was
sort of nuzzling, So I think they're in mating season.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
They were actually having sex, and you're watching them have sex.
I was just observing it in an Agbursh sort of sense.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Actually, in a way, this almost feels like an episode
that Morgan pen the sexologist, could come in on, you
know what I mean, she might.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, yeah, depends what the birds are into, I guess.
And if the six life is healthy, if there's eggs
in there.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well I'm not concerned there.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I suppose she might seg way off into sort of
dial those and butt plugs, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Where is at? And we probably wouldn't do that, you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Know, I don't think, I haven't mean you wouldn't do that, well,
none of the TV shows, but you don't really know
what is necessarily in talking.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
About the TV shows. You don't see an episode of
Dave and you know and do my left is it anyway?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Wait? Digress anyway?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No you yeah, I see what you mean now, but yeah, anyway,
welcome to another episode of page Talk with Leehart and
myself Matt Ward, live from the e Co Lodge.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And there is that smell, isn't it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's a little bit easily but but apart from that,
it's just nice nature and possibly the smell of birds
having six I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We've got a sponsor.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We do have a sponsor or, thanks to uber one
sponsoring the Page to Talk podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, uber one, thanks for coming on board, and hopefully
it's still with us next week, that's what I'll say.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, well, we'll find out in the next half an
hour or so, I guess. But hey, Lee, you've got
another very special guest who needs no introduction.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But we should have given on that. Well you kind
of have to when you don't podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Jordan Mooney, New Zealand actor plenty of acting credits you know,
west side Pike River and a whole bunch coming up
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Be easier to ask him.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I suppose what to off what I've learned off Wikipedia?
I guess we could just throw.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It that way. Then we've got something to talk about. Jordan,
welcome to the show. Making the effect to get up here.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
But no, that's fine. I actually don't have a Wikipedia,
and you can't make it yourself. If you could make
it for me, I'd actually love that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Wikipedia is well, we're the kind of podcast that doesn't
use Wikipedia.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We do proper research.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
We tried because you wouldn't have found it there.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah someone else? Yeah, yeah, you are an actor, Jordan.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You've coming up to the Ecologe to talk about that
and many many, many many other things.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So I'm going to take your right back, Jordan. I'm
going to take your right back now if you can.
Where did you go.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Up in the mighty White guttle in Hamilton, Great River
and fantastic?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Did you did you?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Were you ever sitting there in Hamilton going Every other
city is built at a beach.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Why did they not possibly think we did.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Feel their way? Raglin was really that's our beach, that's
our place I think christ Church is probably the most
similar city to Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You'd use christ Church asy beaches. You wouldn't go that.
That's a long way to go too far.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It's got the similarity, you know, it's got that kind
of racy kind.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Of Yeah, you probably don't have to lump yourself and
with christ Church, like I took like sort of at
that level.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So to thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Actually, that's well, let's not get into the geographical chit
chat right now. But and did you always want to
be in the entertainment business, always want to be an
actor or did you fall into it? I know that's
a cliche question, but let's face it during a podcasts
cliche anyway, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think I did sort of just always had to
be that way. Mum and dad ran in drama school
and I was a child, ye, so I was kind
of like a nerdy kid and never very popular. And
then I did drama classes and everything actually changed, everything
completely changed. And I was funny after that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Who told you that?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
The rest of my class? But they laughed, they laughed,
and then it saves me through high schools. Nny great, But.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Your parents they were these kind of entertainment parents force
you into it, like balet classes and dance.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
They just last.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
They loved it. And sides grew up in the theater
from the age of three, and yeah, I guess it
just happened.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So you started out treating the boards, Yeah, doing sort
of the thes and what.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, on stage and you get your gun. Yes, some
early work of mine, lots of musicals. Actually started doing
musicals well for the most part, when I was a
teenager and then moved to Auckland when I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So when you say musicals, you were like singing in
these musicals about the chorus line kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Whole, the whole gambit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's kind of good training for an actor, I think,
because the music tells you how you're supposed to feel.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, So I think it's.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Extra and all that.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
All the great actors always talking about coming from a
theater about ground and getting into TV, film, and I'm
going way back.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Is that a less of a thing nowadays?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's there probably less actors coming through theater and perhaps
going straight into the likes of shortlest treat et cetera,
purely because they've got an agent they're going straight in
which you've done the theater stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I reckon there are more actors who goes through in
the film and TV because you can just like look great.
You know, you can get someone who's even done anything
for and maybe they'll be great. Yep, well they'd be
great forever. I don't know, but I think you run
shitty theater.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, get your marks, get the discipline.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, direction, it's the actors medium. Yeah, you know, like
we call the carts. Curtain goes up, curtain goes down,
and the actors are in charge during that whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You have a treated the board's lead back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's kind of weird, actually, it's weird. I asked that
question because I always did like performance and but like
like you're saying, in class kind of thing. It was
the class comedian and reports it would say, oh yeah,
it gets a few laughs, but wouldn't fill the town
hall yet would be my kind of report each time,
or anti authority attitude when it came to.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The stage stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I always wanted to do sort of that ding and
c do comedy on stage, but I sort of gone
into music first.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So I ended up being in the band playing the drums.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And stuff and that like the music, but when the
show's were on, so I was watching all this stuff
and I kind of preferred paying music, but I always
did look up and think, oh, I would love to
be doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Just look at you. You could sort of be a
good genie from a Laddin per Yeah, we could be
honest something here.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, I would love well. And Jasman was actually an
early crush of mine.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Same really, yep, the animated one. It's a bit weird
when it's the animated one, but safer though.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know, someone finds your laptop and gets into the
back end of it, you know, and there's a whole
lot of sort of porn, but it's animated.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's not as bad as it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I don't think it would be.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I'm just this as this is probably a different sort
of topic altogether, but it's interesting you brought it up. Man,
So you're still doing the theater and what was your
first real.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
What's the word in English?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, it's a French verd, I suppose for a into
TV into the small screen.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I did it all on pad really really, that was
my first screen job, which I really loved. Actually, there
was fun, and then I got asked and spartacust. That
was my first drama job and it was gnarly huge set,
very bloody, horny six sand.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And that was a full on show. Then full on,
very horny show that was filmed here at Henderson.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
They just wrapped another series of it. Yep, yeah, they've
rebooted it. So I did that, which was great. There
was a good first gig because.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It was big. Did you have to get buff from
that for the now?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Now it's like a weak little Roman slave Okay, okay, yeah,
I was a theater actually sex slave or just no, no,
I wasn't. My sister was. It was awful. It was
actually really terrible storyline, gnarly show.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Just show.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
We might just stop there for a quick break, follow
Christian for that, so I might just.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Let's just got an ad break now and we'll come
back and with a different guest.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Welcome back to Page to talk all thanks to uber one,
and we're joined by a very special guest, Jordan Moonney.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's the other actor.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And you know we've been talking to about a couple
of your acting credits so far. Another one is you
played Jordan Luck and why is love. How was that
getting into character of Jordan?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Luck? You know, I got the job.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I was on a boat in France. I've just been
traveling for five months and the self tape came through
and they said, do you want to put a tape
down for this? And I was so relaxed because I
was on holiday. I did drink a lot of beers
during it, so.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You're already in character. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It was the kind of job that came through, and
when I read it, it just made sense to me.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So obviously you'd be familiar with the exponents and stuff.
You know, you would have grown up listening to their
music and stuff, so you were in June of that.
How hard is that to mean? Because I can't imagine
if you've done it, trying to be someone else on
biopet type stuff must be quite daunting.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, it kind of was. I mean, one thing that
I locked onto was the way that he danced, like
he had this iconic wave of dancing, especially in the
early years. I need that physicality. But the director, did you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Do that in the audition?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
No? No, okay no, I was drunk in one scene
and then Somengwhit is Loving another?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah? Yeah, it sounds like a lot of people Saturday nights.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Really yeah, exactly, and will continue to be. But the
director said really early, he said, you're the character he's
you know, you have to have ownership over it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And you do have the look of a younger Jordan Luck,
you know. I mean that must be a big part
for two and the casting for them, yeah, because I
think they can make the mistakes sometimes of trying to
get someone who looks too much like the person and
but can't pay the role or vices. If you're gonna
do al of us, I suppose he's got to look
like Elvis to degree.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It's an energy thing, I think, yeah, you know, and
I felt like I always understood the frequency that Jordan
operated at, and if you could have captured the essence
of it, then that's what was important.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Because he obviously met him. So I've met Jordan a few.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Times, but we're having this conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He's a very intelligent guy and it's very whimsical, isn't
he His personality he can come across a lot of
bit that don't know him think he's really out there,
but he's actually that's his personality.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
He's very smart and well read.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, he reminds me of the like seventeenth century minstrel.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
He's on another level, isn't he And he's sort of
chasing his brain sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
He's very smart. He's a poet.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Did you spend a lot of time with them sort
of getting into.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yes, a little bit of time. I remember we went
down to this gig downtown in Auckland and he caught
me on stage and then I sung all the songs.
Oh wow, it was so cool and he was just
there kind of like clapping next to me, and I
was Jordan for that night. It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And that would have been was this before you shot
the thing or after during during, so that would have
actually been great for your confidence actually going oh filming.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, I loved it. I mean when we were
shooting that, we were the band. Yeah, we were like
getting drunk and all the weekends and we were shooting
all day every day. It was all the boys. It
was fun.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, cool, And what better way from the director's point
of view of doing that in making you guys feel
that way. It's a great, great sort of you know,
within reason, a great way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh, that's fantastic. And how about Jordan.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Has has he given you any feedback posts that the
series or anything?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Yeah, and he loved a good job. Ye're so supportive
of it. I mean it must be odd from his
end depicting you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know, who do you have playing you? Man? If
you did Dens at Washington, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Vin Diesel, maybe Dwayne Johnson the Rocks, maybe I'd probably
pay myself. Actually, I mean I haven't really aged that
much in the last you know, you haven't aged that much.
I can pay myself in the middle years and the
lad years obviously as the younger years.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, AI is good, but I don't know about
about that AI stuff that hasn't affected you yet, hasn't
you know?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know it's probably but we shouldn't even say this.
But I'm not worried worried about what They're not going
to replace actors. They're just not Like, nothing beats tangible
and real emotion. Maybe AI will get there. I think
there'll be AI movies and people will like them. That'll
be time, I think, is at all.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, as people have dying halfway through a movie,
they can fudge the odd scene with them there and
you know, this sort of stuff. But yeah, hopefully you're right.
I don't I don't think it's really an issue. Before
we talk about another another project that you've done, you
mentioned the audition. You know, doing the tape nowadays is
quite a common thing. You send your own tape and
you know, are you to do it on your phone?
And I suppose that's quite good. There's probably less pressure.
(12:41):
You're not probably not getting any direction from anyone, but
you send it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
In and hail Mary. They like her that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I don't how about the audition process where you walk in,
you know, and there's people there. Obviously you don't a
bit of that, any real disasters.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
There or I love going into the room, like sending
a self tape. You can spend two hours doing it
going out, Yeah, and we'll just getting it perfect by yourself.
But you miss the pressure. You know, you want to
actually arrive and kind of feel nervous like you have
to turn up. And if you can't go into that
audition room and nail it, then you probably can't do
the job.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah, I think you know, to step up to the plate.
And because it's weird, you know, I mean, acting is
intrinsically just a weird thing to do. You're saying these
silly lines, acting like some random in a tiny little
room while a guy films you. You know, it's it's odd.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So if you can do that, son was going to
dodge you when you put it that way. The man's
done some different context.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But it's a small room, little camera, little day filming.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But I had to pay a lot of money for
it not to be released. Pretty much opposite to acting
in that sense. So you're you're in west Side as well.
Obviously that's off the back of a bit of a
juggernaut outrageous fortune was there was there a bit of
pressure sort of being the prequel to such a big
successful show or it was his own.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It just felt right, and I think Antonia pre Ball
was in it as well. You know there there were
such three three It's made by the whole same team.
Everything was the same. We felt men right. That was
a good show. It was awesome. I loved that. I
love playing Eric. He's just dirty bastard. It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So another project which is of interest to me in
many ways is the Pink River. Pretty heavy stuff that's
coming out in October. I believe October. I'm originally from
the West Coast. My father was in a coal mining
disaster in the late sixties, sixty seven The Strongman My
disaster that was pretty full nineteen.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Guys and died in that.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, and I was your father was in there.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
He was in it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
He survived and you know, he was part of the
you know, getting people out of that sort of stuff.
It's really heavy time for that region. But I was
I'm going to say fortunate enough is not the word.
But I ended up doing a documentary on it. I
was the host of a documentary on that disaster. I
was any viewing my parents and a lot of other
people involved in that. And that's still they think about it.
(14:55):
They can remember where they were that day. That was
a dark, dark day and of course years later Pink River.
But was there any element of responsibility telling that story?
Sort of wow, you know, because it's all the victims, parents,
family that are still obviously around and it's very raw
still time.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'd never spend any time on the West Coast down there.
It's a pretty amazing part of the country. It's kind
of mystical, yeah, you know, and how the rain in
the cloud I mean, we were dealing with some pretty
heavy subject matter, and I mean, what happened to Greymouth
you can still feel it, it's still reverberating through society
down there. There was a huge responsibility to tell you
(15:35):
the story.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, certainly from the directors and the producers, because
I mean, the reason the story have the reason is
it's so still. I mean, it was how it was
dealt with. Wasn't it so poorly dealt with? You know,
the governments and the obviously the company. But I suppose
it's an actor. I mean, you've got the script, you're
you're doing the lines. I think as an overall project,
(15:56):
they've just got to be that they'll be very careful
to do it right.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I suppose it was also really fun, like.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Going down there, being in Graymouth and staying down there
with the cast, Like there was a lot of joy
in making it, which I think was really important considering
how heavy the whole thing was.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, and I think movies like this, you know, it
can be part of the process healing process people and
a lot of those people they'll they'll find it pretty
heavy to watch, and also the rest of the country
they'll see it and be educated.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
About it, you know, about the whole thing, I.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Learned a lot. Yeah it was pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, but anyway, that's an extreme, just an example, I
suppose of some of the different roles you've been doing.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, I feel lucky in that since people will say like, oh,
you're not doing drama. Do you're not doing comedy? I
really love doing both. It's always been so important to
me to be able to so you keep working. You know,
I think you need to be able to be like,
do romance, sexy stuff comedy, so you can work as
frequently as possible. But that's also the acting.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But it also keeps you sane.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I mean, because if you do something serious one week,
so to speak, you tend to do U. Let's do
something kind of light harder than net something hard. I
feel like doing something serious totally totally.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, all right, might take another quick break and then
for this to talk about some of the something I
do need to do busting so those workchis.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, I'm speaking into the mic. I can't adjusted any
more than that. You're sitting in DJ booth telling me
what to do.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I'll do that. You come over and you know, I.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Know, I'm Paige, talk come on, gods not paid to listen.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Okay, welcome back to pat to Talk. We've got Jordan
Murley Sorr about that. Jordan, Okay, sometimes it gets a
little bit a little bit, you know, all thanks to
Uber one and Jordan. We're just talking about your acting career.
Pipe River films coming out soon, but you've got a
few other projects and the pipeline and be released soon.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah. Just finished a film called Terminal Lake. We've been
making more movies. We just want to make stuff now.
I am working really consistently as an actor, but it's
not enough anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I feel the need to make stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And this is kind of a theme mat that's coming
through a lot of our podcasts when Katie Bell, who
you know, released her own album, this kind of stuff,
you've got to do it yourself. I remember that with
with TV, they're not just going to the phone's not
you can't sit by the phone expected to ring all
the time, especially mine because.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know how to put the ringer on. You know,
it's been now that we're on the mob because you've
got to knock thirty three. It's weird. It's just cur
you've got to make your own luck.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I mean you sit by the phone waiting for someone
else to find you funding, to find this, and I'll
tell you in six months to whether we've got funding,
and then you'll have the role what you've gone and done,
which is admirable. You're making your own luck and doing yourself.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
It's good for your artistry as well. I think when
you don't have to answer to anybody and you can
just make your own ship, it's it's it's so healthy.
No matter how bad it is, it's your ship exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm not saying that it's going to be bad. I
haven't seen it, but it's at least it's your you're
owning it.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know, you've got to throw a lot of shit
at the wall if you're on some of the stick.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Any other ships analogies, man ship you want to if
you want ship to happen, you've got to take your ship.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
If you if you're not doing acting, you probably just
need to make a ship a podcast, I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And everybody's ship smells riptur and bust ye wipe from
top to bottom.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And the queen, even the queen takes a ship, well
not anymore. No, Well, the king does, Yeah, he sits.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, so shatt in old government house where my or
the queen did, where my friend used to live. So
and I sat on the toilet that she would.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Have true after Does he do what Putin does and
has someone that collects it and takes it back in
a briefcase?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Does he did that? Apparently? Yeah? Charles Oh Putin does?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, Okay, person's poop man Pootin.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It's good job, isn't imagining heavy getting him on the podcast? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Speaking of podcasts, man, apparently we're two hundred and sixty
seventh rated podcasts in the country.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Is that good? Well?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I think it is. That's not bad at all. Well,
last I think we're too sixty nine last week. What
does that mean though? Does that mean people have to
listen to two hundred and sixty six other podcasts before
they get.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To the house. I certainly hope not. That's a lot
of podcasts for some to listen to. It, especially if
you listen to all their episodes first as well.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
There that's out of how any That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Don't tell me it's only three hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
It's probably easy to name the number of people who
don't have a podcast these days to be fair.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, that's a good point what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Yes, Now, Jordan, back to your project, Terminal Lake.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Is this something that you can see from the start?
So you're part of the script writing.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You've got mates involved, and how did the whole process
come about?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It started in twenty twenty two. A friend of mine
wrote it. Who's writ a director. It's only one actor,
which is myself, And it follows a man jouneying through
the desert looking for some kind of hope that he
never finds. It's kind of an allegory for how my
friend was feeling like in the world at the time. Yeah,
and I lost a lot of weight for it. You know,
I had to be starving and dehydrated. This is kind
(20:50):
of like at the end of the world, trying to survive.
And I went to toss the road for four days
with no food or water and just kind of camped
out and like messed around out there in preparation.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah. So where did he end up shooting it? Though?
If it's a there's a shot.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
In Symbathans down sound in Santbath and says old some
old mining tailings that have been abandoned there's a lake
in the middle now and it's actually quite compact, but
we shot it on really long lenses, so we're able
to make it look much more expensive than it once.
It looks like a wasteland. Yeah, it is waste.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Your your preparation of what four days with no food
or water in the desert kind of sounds like your
recent trip to europele when you lost your phone in
your credit cards.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, there's different reasons.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, I lost my phone and credit cards as
Matt for some reasons brought up in a bar and Prague. Yeah,
that's a movie and that scrapt in that. If you
want to have a look at it, I'll take it.
You playing me, Yeah, you have to put it on.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You have to go. You will be the guy that
stole it.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Maybe I don't mind that actually, wait on, yeah, well okay,
so it's it's only you in the movie.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Good call keeps a budget down yep. And how about
ku Waise You got your writer, director.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And cinematographer crew of eleven Yep, it's really small. It
was small and we just went out there and we
shot it. We crowdfunded for it, okay, which is hard,
which is hard.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But it's honest, it's earnest. It's I mean, going to
film commission, getting money, waiting for permission. A year and
a half later, you're in a queue. We will sign
that off. That's good enough, you will give you permission
to make that. I think too many people in this
in this country, certainly in the film industry and TV
I have always had this attitude of waiting for permission,
(22:37):
to be told that's good enough to get funded, and
end of the day, if people are going to watch
it has to be some element of commercial viability to it,
so someone will fund it and then you go crowd funding.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I think it's more important than ever to make your
own work and to find your own audience. There's so
many streaming platforms, it's so hard to get funding. People
just need to get out there and make stuff. And
the whole mentality that it's hard kind of pisses me off.
Like I think it's always been hard, it will always
be hard, so just let that go. It should be
just get out there and do it.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Or can you can you riddle it with product placement
and sort of like walking through.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That would be tacky.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think, you know, doing that it could have been
like really old kind of faded cans, kicking them down
the road kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Well, you shouldn't let me know that.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I could have put some product basements in the movie,
like you know in the desert, you know, the only
thing left you're starving and in the background is massive
of snaky changy like that mirage. You you're you're imagining
it and you're going, it would be great for me.
Can you get them a cost?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Go?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Do you do the giant?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We do? We do it Giant?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Maybe one of those times Dada chips, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Could be something when you're going insane you're seeing that.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, I just want to make more movies now.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And what's the process?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Okay with Terminal, you got it made, so you're going
to release that as well out on what platforms as
moose I.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Guess we're figuring that out now. So we'll have our
first test audience essentially, and then we're going to throw
a big party afterwards, because we want to associate us
as filmmakers. Is having a good time, you know, be fun.
So we'll do the kind of prenou on the Friday,
is it it's on the Friday.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The party, The party the party. That'd be straight after
the movie.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, straight after the movie straightened in the party that's
in Auckland. That's in Auckland.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
To the party is yeah, okay, yeah, okay on Friday night.
Friday night, cool on Friday. Well, Funny asked that I'm
not doing anything on Friday. Okay, so preps, I'm not
doing anything either. Okay, all right, you want to pick
me up? Why do I have to drive to number one?
Number one one and.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You could pick me up in you click on We
get headlong to the party that the Triminal Lake where
we can.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Go to the movie. First come, we go to the movie.
I've put it sold out? Is it sold out?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I can find a couple of seats for you guys.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Stand Okay, I'd love to watch the movie and go
to the party. I'm a little bit of a fraud
if I just want at the party.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Could we party at the movie? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
You could. I would like to sort of pre load
the movie will be kind of abstract.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I want to be one of those guys that's at
the party, you know, drinking a whole lot of beers
and stuff, and someone comes up to me and says, hey,
what did you think of the movie and I go,
I didn't see it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You know, you'd look at bit of a Floor. Bob
is really yeah, Okay, what's next them?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
After tenerl Lak make more movies?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Have you got any?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Are there any sort of commercial projects and in the
pipeline TV wise that we need to know about.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I did a pirate movie last year, which was kind
of a dream come true, you know, the kind of
job your mum's really proud of because you finally downloading.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
The one that you can download off the internet or
actual But it's the pirate genre. It's a pirate illegally downloading.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
No, no, no no, I'm not playing the guy who
started LimeWire.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Cool scrapt it's about It's about a guy who legally
downloads movies.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And that's great.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Okay, so that'll come out soon. Carl Carl Urban is
the captain. Yeah, Carl's great.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I didn't from the other day. He's back and he's
on the map.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, he's finished the boys, it's all wrapped up. I
think he's pleased to be home.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Cose.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I won't speak for him, but I think.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You messaged him about it coming on the podcast. Hasn't
got back to me.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, I think he stopped talking to you as soon
as you mentioned sort of coming on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's truios. It's a true story. But hopefully he sees
this and he will come on.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Jordan's done it. Yeah, I tell you, I'm din friends
with his son. Maybe I'll talk to Indian then he
could well, there you out.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
They just do what you can.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, you got a new dog, so maybe you could
be like, oh, I'll take.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
The dog hostage. Here's a movie. I don't have a
video that I can have his dog, your dog.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's great to see you again, carl you may recognize
I guess.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Carlo barnes offficially never coming on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
He'll come, he'll come. We're doing research for that podcast
on this podcast. I'll tell you what, mate. Thanks for
coming on and chatting about all this stuff. But you're
doing your own thing, which is great. You make your
own luck, and that's the sort of attitude we want
to see see more of.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And good luck with the with the movie. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, looking forward to seeing the new projects coming out
in the next few months.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, it's really exciting. I'm in charge, you know, I'm
in charge.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now that's right.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It's nice and so we should be.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's right, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Another bit yes, please, thank you,
This is an iHeartRadio New Zealand podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, no, no, I'm just discribed to be out the nature
again up here at the at the lodge.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
So see, did you notice that chirping outside?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Well, that's the bird's nest outside on top of the
roof there, and I've noticed the same two birds. I
think it's the same two birds coming back start a
family again. I'm not sure if there's eggs in there
at the moment. What I noticed this morning those birds,
one was on top of the other and that was
sort of nuzzling, So I think they're in mating season.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
They were actually having sex, and you're watching them have sex.
I was just observing it in an Agbursh sort of sense.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Actually, in a way, this almost feels like an episode
that Morgan pen the sexologist, could come in on, you
know what I mean, she might.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Well, yeah, depends what the birds are into, I guess.
And if the six life is healthy, if there's eggs
in there.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Well I'm not concerned there.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I suppose she might seg way off into sort of
dial those and butt plugs, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Where is at? And we probably wouldn't do that, you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Know, I don't think, I haven't mean you wouldn't do that, well,
none of the TV shows, but you don't really know
what is necessarily in talking.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
About the TV shows. You don't see an episode of
Dave and you know and do my left is it anyway?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Wait? Digress anyway?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
No you yeah, I see what you mean now, but yeah, anyway,
welcome to another episode of page Talk with Leehart and
myself Matt Ward, live from the e Co Lodge.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And there is that smell, isn't it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
It's a little bit easily but but apart from that,
it's just nice nature and possibly the smell of birds
having six I guess.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
We've got a sponsor.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We do have a sponsor or, thanks to uber one
sponsoring the Page to Talk podcast.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Well, uber one, thanks for coming on board, and hopefully
it's still with us next week, that's what I'll say.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, well, we'll find out in the next half an
hour or so, I guess. But hey, Lee, you've got
another very special guest who needs no introduction.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But we should have given on that. Well you kind
of have to when you don't podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Jordan Mooney, New Zealand actor plenty of acting credits you know,
west side Pike River and a whole bunch coming up
as well.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Be easier to ask him.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I suppose what to off what I've learned off Wikipedia?
I guess we could just throw.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
It that way. Then we've got something to talk about. Jordan,
welcome to the show. Making the effect to get up here.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
But no, that's fine. I actually don't have a Wikipedia,
and you can't make it yourself. If you could make
it for me, I'd actually love that.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Wikipedia is well, we're the kind of podcast that doesn't
use Wikipedia.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We do proper research.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
We tried because you wouldn't have found it there.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah someone else? Yeah, yeah, you are an actor, Jordan.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
You've coming up to the Ecologe to talk about that
and many many, many many other things.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
So I'm going to take your right back, Jordan. I'm
going to take your right back now if you can.
Where did you go.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Up in the mighty White guttle in Hamilton, Great River
and fantastic?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Did you did you?
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Were you ever sitting there in Hamilton going Every other
city is built at a beach.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Why did they not possibly think we did.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Feel their way? Raglin was really that's our beach, that's
our place I think christ Church is probably the most
similar city to Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
You'd use christ Church asy beaches. You wouldn't go that.
That's a long way to go too far.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
It's got the similarity, you know, it's got that kind
of racy kind.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Of Yeah, you probably don't have to lump yourself and
with christ Church, like I took like sort of at
that level.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
So to thank you.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Actually, that's well, let's not get into the geographical chit
chat right now. But and did you always want to
be in the entertainment business, always want to be an
actor or did you fall into it? I know that's
a cliche question, but let's face it during a podcasts
cliche anyway, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think I did sort of just always had to
be that way. Mum and dad ran in drama school
and I was a child, ye, so I was kind
of like a nerdy kid and never very popular. And
then I did drama classes and everything actually changed, everything
completely changed. And I was funny after that.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Who told you that?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
The rest of my class? But they laughed, they laughed,
and then it saves me through high schools. Nny great, But.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Your parents they were these kind of entertainment parents force
you into it, like balet classes and dance.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
They just last.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
They loved it. And sides grew up in the theater
from the age of three, and yeah, I guess it
just happened.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
So you started out treating the boards, Yeah, doing sort
of the thes and what.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, on stage and you get your gun. Yes, some
early work of mine, lots of musicals. Actually started doing
musicals well for the most part, when I was a
teenager and then moved to Auckland when I was nineteen.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So when you say musicals, you were like singing in
these musicals about the chorus line kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Yeah, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Whole, the whole gambit. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
It's kind of good training for an actor, I think,
because the music tells you how you're supposed to feel.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, So I think it's.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Extra and all that.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
All the great actors always talking about coming from a
theater about ground and getting into TV, film, and I'm
going way back.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Is that a less of a thing nowadays?
Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's there probably less actors coming through theater and perhaps
going straight into the likes of shortlest treat et cetera,
purely because they've got an agent they're going straight in
which you've done the theater stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I reckon there are more actors who goes through in
the film and TV because you can just like look great.
You know, you can get someone who's even done anything
for and maybe they'll be great. Yep, well they'd be
great forever. I don't know, but I think you run
shitty theater.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah, get your marks, get the discipline.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Yeah, direction, it's the actors medium. Yeah, you know, like
we call the carts. Curtain goes up, curtain goes down,
and the actors are in charge during that whole time.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You have a treated the board's lead back in the day.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
It's kind of weird, actually, it's weird. I asked that
question because I always did like performance and but like
like you're saying, in class kind of thing. It was
the class comedian and reports it would say, oh yeah,
it gets a few laughs, but wouldn't fill the town
hall yet would be my kind of report each time,
or anti authority attitude when it came to.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
The stage stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I always wanted to do sort of that ding and
c do comedy on stage, but I sort of gone
into music first.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
So I ended up being in the band playing the drums.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
And stuff and that like the music, but when the
show's were on, so I was watching all this stuff
and I kind of preferred paying music, but I always
did look up and think, oh, I would love to
be doing that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Just look at you. You could sort of be a
good genie from a Laddin per Yeah, we could be
honest something here.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, I would love well. And Jasman was actually an
early crush of mine.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Same really, yep, the animated one. It's a bit weird
when it's the animated one, but safer though.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You know, someone finds your laptop and gets into the
back end of it, you know, and there's a whole
lot of sort of porn, but it's animated.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's not as bad as it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
I don't think it would be.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Actually, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I'm just this as this is probably a different sort
of topic altogether, but it's interesting you brought it up. Man,
So you're still doing the theater and what was your
first real.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
What's the word in English?
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Well, it's a French verd, I suppose for a into
TV into the small screen.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
I did it all on pad really really, that was
my first screen job, which I really loved. Actually, there
was fun, and then I got asked and spartacust. That
was my first drama job and it was gnarly huge set,
very bloody, horny six sand.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And that was a full on show. Then full on,
very horny show that was filmed here at Henderson.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
They just wrapped another series of it. Yep, yeah, they've
rebooted it. So I did that, which was great. There
was a good first gig because.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It was big. Did you have to get buff from
that for the now?
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Now?
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Now it's like a weak little Roman slave Okay, okay, yeah,
I was a theater actually sex slave or just no, no,
I wasn't. My sister was. It was awful. It was
actually really terrible storyline, gnarly show.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Just show.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
We might just stop there for a quick break, follow
Christian for that, so I might just.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Let's just got an ad break now and we'll come
back and with a different guest.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Welcome back to Page to talk all thanks to uber one,
and we're joined by a very special guest, Jordan Moonney.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
He's the other actor.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
And you know we've been talking to about a couple
of your acting credits so far. Another one is you
played Jordan Luck and why is love. How was that
getting into character of Jordan?
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Luck? You know, I got the job.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
I was on a boat in France. I've just been
traveling for five months and the self tape came through
and they said, do you want to put a tape
down for this? And I was so relaxed because I
was on holiday. I did drink a lot of beers
during it, so.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You're already in character. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
It was the kind of job that came through, and
when I read it, it just made sense to me.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So obviously you'd be familiar with the exponents and stuff.
You know, you would have grown up listening to their
music and stuff, so you were in June of that.
How hard is that to mean? Because I can't imagine
if you've done it, trying to be someone else on
biopet type stuff must be quite daunting.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
Yeah, it kind of was. I mean, one thing that
I locked onto was the way that he danced, like
he had this iconic wave of dancing, especially in the
early years. I need that physicality. But the director, did you.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Do that in the audition?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
No? No, okay no, I was drunk in one scene
and then Somengwhit is Loving another?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah? Yeah, it sounds like a lot of people Saturday nights.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Really yeah, exactly, and will continue to be. But the
director said really early, he said, you're the character he's
you know, you have to have ownership over it.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
And you do have the look of a younger Jordan Luck,
you know. I mean that must be a big part
for two and the casting for them, yeah, because I
think they can make the mistakes sometimes of trying to
get someone who looks too much like the person and
but can't pay the role or vices. If you're gonna
do al of us, I suppose he's got to look
like Elvis to degree.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
It's an energy thing, I think, yeah, you know, and
I felt like I always understood the frequency that Jordan
operated at, and if you could have captured the essence
of it, then that's what was important.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Because he obviously met him. So I've met Jordan a few.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Times, but we're having this conversation.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
He's a very intelligent guy and it's very whimsical, isn't
he His personality he can come across a lot of
bit that don't know him think he's really out there,
but he's actually that's his personality.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
He's very smart and well read.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, he reminds me of the like seventeenth century minstrel.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
He's on another level, isn't he And he's sort of
chasing his brain sometimes.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
He's very smart. He's a poet.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
He's amazing.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Did you spend a lot of time with them sort
of getting into.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Yes, a little bit of time. I remember we went
down to this gig downtown in Auckland and he caught
me on stage and then I sung all the songs.
Oh wow, it was so cool and he was just
there kind of like clapping next to me, and I
was Jordan for that night. It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
And that would have been was this before you shot
the thing or after during during, so that would have
actually been great for your confidence actually going oh filming.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
Yeah, yeah, I loved it. I mean when we were
shooting that, we were the band. Yeah, we were like
getting drunk and all the weekends and we were shooting
all day every day. It was all the boys. It
was fun.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, cool, And what better way from the director's point
of view of doing that in making you guys feel
that way. It's a great, great sort of you know,
within reason, a great way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
Oh, that's fantastic. And how about Jordan.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Has has he given you any feedback posts that the
series or anything?
Speaker 4 (11:25):
Yeah, and he loved a good job. Ye're so supportive
of it. I mean it must be odd from his
end depicting you.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
You know, who do you have playing you? Man? If
you did Dens at Washington, Okay.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Vin Diesel, maybe Dwayne Johnson the Rocks, maybe I'd probably
pay myself. Actually, I mean I haven't really aged that
much in the last you know, you haven't aged that much.
I can pay myself in the middle years and the
lad years obviously as the younger years.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I mean, AI is good, but I don't know about
about that AI stuff that hasn't affected you yet, hasn't
you know?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
You know it's probably but we shouldn't even say this.
But I'm not worried worried about what They're not going
to replace actors. They're just not Like, nothing beats tangible
and real emotion. Maybe AI will get there. I think
there'll be AI movies and people will like them. That'll
be time, I think, is at all.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You know, as people have dying halfway through a movie,
they can fudge the odd scene with them there and
you know, this sort of stuff. But yeah, hopefully you're right.
I don't I don't think it's really an issue. Before
we talk about another another project that you've done, you
mentioned the audition. You know, doing the tape nowadays is
quite a common thing. You send your own tape and
you know, are you to do it on your phone?
And I suppose that's quite good. There's probably less pressure.
(12:41):
You're not probably not getting any direction from anyone, but
you send it.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
In and hail Mary. They like her that.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
I don't how about the audition process where you walk in,
you know, and there's people there. Obviously you don't a
bit of that, any real disasters.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
There or I love going into the room, like sending
a self tape. You can spend two hours doing it
going out, Yeah, and we'll just getting it perfect by yourself.
But you miss the pressure. You know, you want to
actually arrive and kind of feel nervous like you have
to turn up. And if you can't go into that
audition room and nail it, then you probably can't do
the job.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
Yeah, I think you know, to step up to the plate.
And because it's weird, you know, I mean, acting is
intrinsically just a weird thing to do. You're saying these
silly lines, acting like some random in a tiny little
room while a guy films you. You know, it's it's odd.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So if you can do that, son was going to
dodge you when you put it that way. The man's
done some different context.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
But it's a small room, little camera, little day filming.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
But I had to pay a lot of money for
it not to be released. Pretty much opposite to acting
in that sense. So you're you're in west Side as well.
Obviously that's off the back of a bit of a
juggernaut outrageous fortune was there was there a bit of
pressure sort of being the prequel to such a big
successful show or it was his own.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
It just felt right, and I think Antonia pre Ball
was in it as well. You know there there were
such three three It's made by the whole same team.
Everything was the same. We felt men right. That was
a good show. It was awesome. I loved that. I
love playing Eric. He's just dirty bastard. It was so fun.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So another project which is of interest to me in
many ways is the Pink River. Pretty heavy stuff that's
coming out in October. I believe October. I'm originally from
the West Coast. My father was in a coal mining
disaster in the late sixties, sixty seven The Strongman My
disaster that was pretty full nineteen.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Guys and died in that.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
Yeah, and I was your father was in there.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
He was in it.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
He survived and you know, he was part of the
you know, getting people out of that sort of stuff.
It's really heavy time for that region. But I was
I'm going to say fortunate enough is not the word.
But I ended up doing a documentary on it. I
was the host of a documentary on that disaster. I
was any viewing my parents and a lot of other
people involved in that. And that's still they think about it.
(14:55):
They can remember where they were that day. That was
a dark, dark day and of course years later Pink River.
But was there any element of responsibility telling that story?
Sort of wow, you know, because it's all the victims, parents,
family that are still obviously around and it's very raw
still time.
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I'd never spend any time on the West Coast down there.
It's a pretty amazing part of the country. It's kind
of mystical, yeah, you know, and how the rain in
the cloud I mean, we were dealing with some pretty
heavy subject matter, and I mean, what happened to Greymouth
you can still feel it, it's still reverberating through society
down there. There was a huge responsibility to tell you
(15:35):
the story.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, certainly from the directors and the producers, because
I mean, the reason the story have the reason is
it's so still. I mean, it was how it was
dealt with. Wasn't it so poorly dealt with? You know,
the governments and the obviously the company. But I suppose
it's an actor. I mean, you've got the script, you're
you're doing the lines. I think as an overall project,
(15:56):
they've just got to be that they'll be very careful
to do it right.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
I suppose it was also really fun, like.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
Going down there, being in Graymouth and staying down there
with the cast, Like there was a lot of joy
in making it, which I think was really important considering
how heavy the whole thing was.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Yeah, and I think movies like this, you know, it
can be part of the process healing process people and
a lot of those people they'll they'll find it pretty
heavy to watch, and also the rest of the country
they'll see it and be educated.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
About it, you know, about the whole thing, I.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
Learned a lot. Yeah it was pretty bad.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, but anyway, that's an extreme, just an example, I
suppose of some of the different roles you've been doing.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Yeah, I feel lucky in that since people will say like, oh,
you're not doing drama. Do you're not doing comedy? I
really love doing both. It's always been so important to
me to be able to so you keep working. You know,
I think you need to be able to be like,
do romance, sexy stuff comedy, so you can work as
frequently as possible. But that's also the acting.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But it also keeps you sane.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I mean, because if you do something serious one week,
so to speak, you tend to do U. Let's do
something kind of light harder than net something hard. I
feel like doing something serious totally totally.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Yeah, all right, might take another quick break and then
for this to talk about some of the something I
do need to do busting so those workchis.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Well, I'm speaking into the mic. I can't adjusted any
more than that. You're sitting in DJ booth telling me
what to do.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I'll do that. You come over and you know, I.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Know, I'm Paige, talk come on, gods not paid to listen.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Okay, welcome back to pat to Talk. We've got Jordan
Murley Sorr about that. Jordan, Okay, sometimes it gets a
little bit a little bit, you know, all thanks to
Uber one and Jordan. We're just talking about your acting career.
Pipe River films coming out soon, but you've got a
few other projects and the pipeline and be released soon.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yeah. Just finished a film called Terminal Lake. We've been
making more movies. We just want to make stuff now.
I am working really consistently as an actor, but it's
not enough anyway.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I feel the need to make stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
And this is kind of a theme mat that's coming
through a lot of our podcasts when Katie Bell, who
you know, released her own album, this kind of stuff,
you've got to do it yourself. I remember that with
with TV, they're not just going to the phone's not
you can't sit by the phone expected to ring all
the time, especially mine because.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
I don't know how to put the ringer on. You know,
it's been now that we're on the mob because you've
got to knock thirty three. It's weird. It's just cur
you've got to make your own luck.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I mean you sit by the phone waiting for someone
else to find you funding, to find this, and I'll
tell you in six months to whether we've got funding,
and then you'll have the role what you've gone and done,
which is admirable. You're making your own luck and doing yourself.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
It's good for your artistry as well. I think when
you don't have to answer to anybody and you can
just make your own ship, it's it's it's so healthy.
No matter how bad it is, it's your ship exactly.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'm not saying that it's going to be bad. I
haven't seen it, but it's at least it's your you're
owning it.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
You know, you've got to throw a lot of shit
at the wall if you're on some of the stick.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Any other ships analogies, man ship you want to if
you want ship to happen, you've got to take your ship.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
If you if you're not doing acting, you probably just
need to make a ship a podcast, I guess.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
And everybody's ship smells riptur and bust ye wipe from
top to bottom.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
And the queen, even the queen takes a ship, well
not anymore. No, Well, the king does, Yeah, he sits.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
Yeah, so shatt in old government house where my or
the queen did, where my friend used to live. So
and I sat on the toilet that she would.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Have true after Does he do what Putin does and
has someone that collects it and takes it back in
a briefcase?
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Does he did that? Apparently? Yeah? Charles Oh Putin does?
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, Okay, person's poop man Pootin.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It's good job, isn't imagining heavy getting him on the podcast? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Speaking of podcasts, man, apparently we're two hundred and sixty
seventh rated podcasts in the country.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Is that good? Well?
Speaker 2 (19:50):
I think it is. That's not bad at all. Well,
last I think we're too sixty nine last week. What
does that mean though? Does that mean people have to
listen to two hundred and sixty six other podcasts before
they get.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
To the house. I certainly hope not. That's a lot
of podcasts for some to listen to. It, especially if
you listen to all their episodes first as well.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
There that's out of how any That's a good question.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Don't tell me it's only three hundred.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
It's probably easy to name the number of people who
don't have a podcast these days to be fair.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Well, that's a good point what we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Yes, Now, Jordan, back to your project, Terminal Lake.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Is this something that you can see from the start?
So you're part of the script writing.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You've got mates involved, and how did the whole process
come about?
Speaker 4 (20:28):
It started in twenty twenty two. A friend of mine
wrote it. Who's writ a director. It's only one actor,
which is myself, And it follows a man jouneying through
the desert looking for some kind of hope that he
never finds. It's kind of an allegory for how my
friend was feeling like in the world at the time. Yeah,
and I lost a lot of weight for it. You know,
I had to be starving and dehydrated. This is kind
(20:50):
of like at the end of the world, trying to survive.
And I went to toss the road for four days
with no food or water and just kind of camped
out and like messed around out there in preparation.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah. So where did he end up shooting it? Though?
If it's a there's a shot.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
In Symbathans down sound in Santbath and says old some
old mining tailings that have been abandoned there's a lake
in the middle now and it's actually quite compact, but
we shot it on really long lenses, so we're able
to make it look much more expensive than it once.
It looks like a wasteland. Yeah, it is waste.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Your your preparation of what four days with no food
or water in the desert kind of sounds like your
recent trip to europele when you lost your phone in
your credit cards.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Yeah, there's different reasons.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, yeah, I lost my phone and credit cards as
Matt for some reasons brought up in a bar and Prague. Yeah,
that's a movie and that scrapt in that. If you
want to have a look at it, I'll take it.
You playing me, Yeah, you have to put it on.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
You have to go. You will be the guy that
stole it.
Speaker 5 (21:49):
Maybe I don't mind that actually, wait on, yeah, well okay,
so it's it's only you in the movie.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Good call keeps a budget down yep. And how about
ku Waise You got your writer, director.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And cinematographer crew of eleven Yep, it's really small. It
was small and we just went out there and we
shot it. We crowdfunded for it, okay, which is hard,
which is hard.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
But it's honest, it's earnest. It's I mean, going to
film commission, getting money, waiting for permission. A year and
a half later, you're in a queue. We will sign
that off. That's good enough, you will give you permission
to make that. I think too many people in this
in this country, certainly in the film industry and TV
I have always had this attitude of waiting for permission,
(22:37):
to be told that's good enough to get funded, and
end of the day, if people are going to watch
it has to be some element of commercial viability to it,
so someone will fund it and then you go crowd funding.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
I think it's more important than ever to make your
own work and to find your own audience. There's so
many streaming platforms, it's so hard to get funding. People
just need to get out there and make stuff. And
the whole mentality that it's hard kind of pisses me off.
Like I think it's always been hard, it will always
be hard, so just let that go. It should be
just get out there and do it.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Or can you can you riddle it with product placement
and sort of like walking through.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
That would be tacky.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I think, you know, doing that it could have been
like really old kind of faded cans, kicking them down
the road kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Well, you shouldn't let me know that.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
I could have put some product basements in the movie,
like you know in the desert, you know, the only
thing left you're starving and in the background is massive
of snaky changy like that mirage. You you're you're imagining
it and you're going, it would be great for me.
Can you get them a cost?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
Go?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Do you do the giant?
Speaker 1 (23:42):
We do? We do it Giant?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Maybe one of those times Dada chips, Yeah, that.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Could be something when you're going insane you're seeing that.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
Yeah, I just want to make more movies now.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And what's the process?
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Okay with Terminal, you got it made, so you're going
to release that as well out on what platforms as
moose I.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Guess we're figuring that out now. So we'll have our
first test audience essentially, and then we're going to throw
a big party afterwards, because we want to associate us
as filmmakers. Is having a good time, you know, be fun.
So we'll do the kind of prenou on the Friday,
is it it's on the Friday.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
The party, The party the party. That'd be straight after
the movie.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
Yeah, straight after the movie straightened in the party that's
in Auckland. That's in Auckland.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
To the party is yeah, okay, yeah, okay on Friday night.
Friday night, cool on Friday. Well, Funny asked that I'm
not doing anything on Friday. Okay, so preps, I'm not
doing anything either. Okay, all right, you want to pick
me up? Why do I have to drive to number one?
Number one one and.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
You could pick me up in you click on We
get headlong to the party that the Triminal Lake where
we can.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
Go to the movie. First come, we go to the movie.
I've put it sold out? Is it sold out?
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I can find a couple of seats for you guys.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Stand Okay, I'd love to watch the movie and go
to the party. I'm a little bit of a fraud
if I just want at the party.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Could we party at the movie? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (24:54):
You could. I would like to sort of pre load
the movie will be kind of abstract.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
I want to be one of those guys that's at
the party, you know, drinking a whole lot of beers
and stuff, and someone comes up to me and says, hey,
what did you think of the movie and I go,
I didn't see it.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
You know, you'd look at bit of a Floor. Bob
is really yeah, Okay, what's next them?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
After tenerl Lak make more movies?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Have you got any?
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Are there any sort of commercial projects and in the
pipeline TV wise that we need to know about.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
I did a pirate movie last year, which was kind
of a dream come true, you know, the kind of
job your mum's really proud of because you finally downloading.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
The one that you can download off the internet or
actual But it's the pirate genre. It's a pirate illegally downloading.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
No, no, no no, I'm not playing the guy who
started LimeWire.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
Cool scrapt it's about It's about a guy who legally
downloads movies.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And that's great.
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Okay, so that'll come out soon. Carl Carl Urban is
the captain. Yeah, Carl's great.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
I didn't from the other day. He's back and he's
on the map.
Speaker 4 (26:02):
Yeah, he's finished the boys, it's all wrapped up. I
think he's pleased to be home.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Cose.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
I won't speak for him, but I think.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
You messaged him about it coming on the podcast. Hasn't
got back to me.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah, I think he stopped talking to you as soon
as you mentioned sort of coming on this podcast.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
It's truios. It's a true story. But hopefully he sees
this and he will come on.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Jordan's done it. Yeah, I tell you, I'm din friends
with his son. Maybe I'll talk to Indian then he
could well, there you out.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
They just do what you can.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
Yeah, you got a new dog, so maybe you could
be like, oh, I'll take.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
The dog hostage. Here's a movie. I don't have a
video that I can have his dog, your dog.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's great to see you again, carl you may recognize
I guess.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Carlo barnes offficially never coming on this podcast.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
He'll come, he'll come. We're doing research for that podcast
on this podcast. I'll tell you what, mate. Thanks for
coming on and chatting about all this stuff. But you're
doing your own thing, which is great. You make your
own luck, and that's the sort of attitude we want
to see see more of.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
And good luck with the with the movie. Thank you. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Yeah, looking forward to seeing the new projects coming out
in the next few months.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, it's really exciting. I'm in charge, you know, I'm
in charge.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Now that's right.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
It's nice and so we should be.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
That's right, exactly right.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
Another bit yes, please, thank you,
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