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August 8, 2025 28 mins

Leigh and Matt thought it was Shark Week. It is not. But Riley Elliott, shark expert, was already en route to the ecolodge from Tairua, so he still turned up to talk about sharks being misunderstood, saving them from extinction, megalodon and when it’s acceptable to do wees in your wetsuit.

Get set for a full-on assault on your sense of humour as Leigh and sparring partner Matt Ward delve into the big topics of the week.

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