Phone calls and negotiations behind the scenes, as National and ACT look set to form the next Government.
With the special votes yet to confirm the make-up of the Beehive, both parties are likely to need New Zealand First in a three-way majority arrangement.
Former National MP Steven Joyce, was part of talks in 2017, when Winston Peters eventually sided with Labour and Jacinda Ardern.
He says it's a different situation now, as Peters had to choose between two parties, while this time Labour's already conceded.
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