November 10, 2024 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine for 11th November 2024, the Wallabies have beaten England in one of the best matches of the season, scoring the match winner well after the full-time siren. Aussie rugby commentator Brett McKay joins the podcast to recap a successful weekend for Southern Hemisphere rugby teams.
Piney kills this idea of having non specialist wicketkeepers in test matches.
Plus, Nathan Limm joins the panel to discuss the Fast5 Netball series and the Kiwis' impressive win over PNG.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Sportsfix howard By News Talks ed B.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello there and welcome into a fresh weekend, a fresh
episode of the sports Fit podcast for November eleven. I'm
Jason Pine, goodabby along quite a bit to get through today. Australia,
off the back of a fairly dismal sort of a
rugby championship, have stunned England at Twickenham, first time they've
won there since the Rugby World Cup of twenty.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Fifteen, and what a way to do it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Forty two thirty seven and a try well after the hooter.
Australian rugby journalist, broadcaster and podcaster Brett McKay going to
run an I over that one. I've got some thoughts
on the black Caps Test team and why we absolutely
should not even be thinking about dropping one player in particular,
Nathan Lind's in the chamber to kick around a bit
(01:02):
of rugby, a bit an fall and rugby league in
a bit more besides, so.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
In other news, let's get underway checking out some of
the big sports stories. Floating around today. The black Caps
have leveled their T twenty cricket series against Sri Lanka
with a five run win in the second and final
match at dam Bulla.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's gone straight up.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It's the Capers asked to me and hey dozen and
sun the black Caps.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
They level the series and look at.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The jubilation here the black Caps one hundred and eight
and bowling Sri Lanka out for one hundred and three.
Rockie Ferguson taking three for seven, including a hat trick,
to the rugby at murray Field, adding.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
The extra Tues twenty two points to fifteen and ends.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The spring Bokx have beat in Scotland thirty two fifteen
to complete a clean sweep by Rugby Championship sides across
the weekend's Test action. After winning efforts from the all
Blacksta Wallabies and lost Pumas and Arsenal have missed a
chance to clinch a winner in the final seconds of
their Premier League FOOTBA match at Chelsea Saliba.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
What a builder a Frisco away from a match winning.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Moments and the game comes to an end that failed
of tenth with the final act of a one all
draw between Chelsea and Arsenal.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine on.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The Sports Fix podcast. Remarkable scenes at Twickenham yesterday morning.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It it's out for Jorgensen, Max Jorvison, Max Jarginson. No
they didn't. Oh my goodness me. Oh, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
It's one of the greatest moments in Wallaby's history and
it belongs to Jorginson.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
They have stunned England.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Incredible A try well after the hooter from Max Jorgensen
has given the Wallabyes a forty two to thirty seven
win over.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
England at Twickenham.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Let's bring in Australian rugby broadcaster, a journalist, columnist and
co host of the eight nine Combo Rugby podcast, Brett McKay. Brett,
You've watched a heak of a lot of Wallaby's rugby, mate.
Where does that game rate?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Oh, it's I'm literally in the middle of writing writing
my conference for Rugby Pass as we speak, Piney, and
I've just written the paragraph that I can't think of
it readily. Think of anything in the last four or
five seasons that would top it, and you could probably
push it back to that but that's about as far
(03:37):
as the memory goes these days. I must have been
so it was. It was just phenomenal, it really was,
and it was phenomenal for so many reasons, but most
of all it was the fact that we went through
all the emotions that we did morrow Toje scores that
try in the minute, and you know, I know I
wasn't the only Baldies fan at four o'clock in the
(03:59):
morning thinking oh God, not again. And then for them
to pull out that play, you know, three minutes after
the after the bell, you know, wasn't it wasn't from
it, It wasn't from a line out drive, It wasn't it
wasn't a scrum set play they'd handled for four or
five or six phase or whatever it was, and then
(04:20):
they just tried something out on the edge and they
pulled it off and they scored one of the great
Wallaby tries, it has to be said. And it was
just a phenomenal performance across the board that has made
burning an Australian rugby fan a pretty enjoyable experience in
the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Certainly, absolutely well, I want to talk about it in
a greater context as far as the years concern both
what we've had and what is to come. But I
want to ask you about a couple of players, a
lot of a lot of hype around, a lot of
chat around about Joseph Sali and his Wallaby's debut.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
How did you assass his contribution?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, he was. He was fantastic, There's no there's no
doubting about that. He's I mean, I've seen him why
and I know he was a fear only won the
official Man of the match, but I would suggest there
was probably four or five at least other Wallabies who
are easily in front of him. And that's not to
(05:18):
downplay that he had a fantastic game, but more to
make the point that it was a reel across the
board performance from the Wallabies, and the fact that it
was at least four or five and it might ever
be six or seven or eight sort of speaks to
how widely this performance was shared across the board. But
he was great that I made the point upon the
podcast in our post bortum yesterday that the best compliment
(05:41):
that I can give him, whilst also trying to you know,
drill down the hype a little bit, is just to
say that he looks like a rugby player. He doesn't
look like it didn't look like that was his first
game rugby in four years or whatever it was. He
just looks like a rugby player. And his hands are good,
his instincts are good. You know, he's still there's plenty
(06:02):
of things for him to work on his game, but
he you know, even just little things about where he
placed the ball in the ruck and how he rolled
away from tackles. His rugby instincts are still really, really strong.
And that's really exciting, mate, because you know they're going in.
Last week, the expectation was, you know, it looks like
(06:23):
he's going to play. Do you start him on the wing?
Do you start him on the bench. The easy thing
to do would have been to start him on the
bench and bring him in. But he certainly impressed plenty
at the camps leading into it. They've thrown him to
the deep end and he's just delivered. And so it's
actually really exciting to think what he could do from here,
and then more so to think about what he could
(06:45):
actually do in a war tars jumper in Super Rugby
next year.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing that as well. You
mentioned that there are other players who were on a
par in terms of their performance. Was one of those
loose head prop Angus Bell?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely he was. I could flip a
coin between he and Rob Valentine as my picks his stats.
She is just incredible, Angus Bell. You know, nine defenders
beaten and I think I think I've heard or read
this morning that that's the most from a Wallabies player
(07:19):
in a presume it's in the UK or maybe even
Sat twigting, maybe it's overall. I can't quite remember the contest,
but it was context. It was the most of it
a wall of his player since Marika Coro Betsy beat
eleven in a game in twenty nineteen. Wow, and so
you're not nine defenders beaten from a loose head proper.
He played seventy and a half minutes, which is just
(07:40):
it's absolutely phenomenal and it was a well earned rest
when he came off. What he did, but he was
he carrying was great, you know, showed a bit of
footwork in contact, showed some deft hands at times. He's
just his game has come on leaps and bound. He
was always going to be a really good footballer, but
he's he's I think he's one of the best Louise
(08:01):
Heads getting around right at this point in time, and
he's been getting better all year and you know, I
think that was probably his best performance in a Test match,
which is which is saying something.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So teats to come in the next three weekends against Wales,
Scotland and Ireland. How much more optimistic do you feel
about those Test matches given what happened at Twickenham.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Yeah, And it's a really good question, and it's a
really dangerous one from an Australian fan because because because
experience says or you know, what could go wrong here now,
and you can't help but think about that because we've
seen this, this happened so many times and particularly on
Northern tours. I think the expectation going into this tour
was they win two of those two of the four tests.
(08:47):
You know, that's that's going to be a that's that's
probably fairly fairly fair for where this team is. You know,
should beat Wales, Scotland is the danger game England and
Ireland at either end, he's going to be too big tests.
You're not okay England at Twickenham now and straight away
you're thinking differently about Wales this weekend and Scotland next weekend,
(09:08):
because the expectation now will be should beat Wales pretty well.
They've gone down to Fiji, you know, just this morning
our time, so you know you'd think that they should
do the job there pretty well. And then Scotland this morning.
You know, they looked in the end, I think, pretty
well beaten by South Africa, which is not a slot
(09:30):
on Scotland necessarily because plenty of teams has been well
beaten by South Africa this year, Australia included. But you know,
I think it was also the way that they were
beaten that sort of suggests that you know, there it's
actually probably a good matchup, and it was. It was
always a dangerous game, but I think it's it's certainly
very very winnable for the Wallabies now and again having
(09:53):
beaten England at Twicken them, the expectation I think now
will be that they definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Can brilliant stuff. Brett.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Thanks, indeed, we even enjoyed it over here mate, watching
the Wallabies after what's been a tough year for them
getting one up over the English. Really appreciate you joining us.
Brett McKay, Australian right journalist on the Sports Fixed podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Sports Fact Sense.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
While the black Caps are currently playing a bit of
white ball cricket in Sri Lanka, there's massive anticipation about
the upcoming three Test series against England back here in
New Zealand. After his manner the series' efforts in India,
it'd be really harsh on will Young to drop him
when came Williamson's fit enough to come back, which by
all accounts he will be for these matches. So I
reckon there are two ways you can play both will
(10:34):
Young and came Williamson. Option one, you push everybody down
one and go with three seemers, so Conway lath and Williamson,
Revendra Young, Mitchell Blundell, Phillips and three seemers. The other
option is you drop Glenn Phillips and I can't believe
him saying that and go with four seemers, So Conway
lath and Williamson, Revendra Young, Mitchell Blundel and your four seemers.
(10:56):
Or you could leave Will Young out, which as I say,
would be very harsh for the first Test in christ Hitch,
I have to say I'd go with number two much
as I love Glen Phillips and what he brings to
the team, he might be the one who drops out
for this Test. I feel like we need the four
seamers in christ Church to get our twenty wickets. History
tells us that, and we can get our spinovers if
(11:17):
we need them out of Rich and Revendra. Be interesting
to see what the selectors do. One thing I've heard suggested,
which I am one hundred percent not a fan of,
is dropping Tom Blundell and giving the gloves to either
Devin Conway or Tom Latham for starters. This is Test cricket,
not whpeball cricket. You absolutely must have a specialist behind
(11:38):
the stumps, and even if you were looking to try
someone else, it wouldn't be one of your opening batsmen.
You can't have a day and a half crouching behind
the stumps and all the concentration that goes with that,
and then be expected to open the batting. It's true
Tom Blundell's had a difficult time with the bat recently,
just one score of fifty in his last twenty three testings,
but on the whole his keeping is very good and
(11:59):
that's the main reason he's in the side. Yes, he
needs to contribute runs as well and that will happen.
You don't score Test hundreds against Australia at the MC,
a couple against England in England and one on debut
against the West Indies without being able to hold a bat.
Tom Blundle plays at least for this series and if
at some point you're looking to replace them in the
(12:20):
Test side, you do it with another specialist, not a
makeshift keeper.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
On the Sports Fix podcast. Time to kick around a
few of the big sports issues which are floating around
today inside the Chamber, joined by news Talks hereb New
Zealand Herald multi media journalist and jack of all trades
Nathan Lymb. Nathan, a bit to get through today, including
a couple of your specialties which I'd love your analysis
on some rugby leg and some netball. Before that, they
mate the All Blacks getting the job done against Ireland
(12:54):
having given it the overnight Test or a couple of
nights of an overnight Test.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
How do you feel about the All Blacks performance?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah? Well, I mean you can't complain at all, can you.
I don't think many people were expecting them to win
based off I guess what we've seen throughout this year
in the form that Ireland had been in. I think
what really played into the All Blacks hands was the
fact that this was Ireland's first test of the year
and you could clearly see how rusty they were. They
were shooting themselves in the foot constantly with the drop balls,
(13:22):
just weren't able to get any rhythm going. Apart from that,
ten minutes after half time, I thought that All Blacks were,
for the most part brilliant. Damien McKenzie was fantastic silence
his doubtest I think in the first five Jersey, and
just his mental resilience, his calmness under pressure to slot
that kick from halfway and then nearly doing it again
(13:42):
a few minutes later. His composure, I think is something
that it wasn't talked about enough when people were debating
whether he should be the first five. And I think
Boden Barrett is still the first choice. But Damien McKenzie
ice cold off the tea, ice cold, and I think
he deserves a lot of plaudits. Moore I thought was
really good as well. But again I think if it
(14:03):
was Ireland's seventh, eight tenth Test of the year. That
game could have been very different and Ireland could have
won that.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I absolutely concur with the fact that it looked like
a team that hadn't played for a while, particularly in
the last twenty minutes. Play selected for me on the
two players you've brought up Damien McKenzie, Jamian McKenzie, guff
for one more, let's just hypothetically say that Boden Barrett
and Cody Taylor are fit next week. What do you
do in the two and ten jerseys.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I still stick with Cody Taylor and Boden Barrett. Almore
had a good game. Still another line out throw when
to Rye and I think that that does hurt the
All Blacks and he knows it, and you know he's
working on it and he will get there. I love
the explosiveness that comes from al Moore with sort of
twenty to go off the bench as well, so I
do like having Cody Taylor there to start. In regards
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to the first five jumper, I really do feel that
our attack looked a hell of a lot more composed
and organized when Bowden Barrett was running the cutter and
just all of his experiences. Well, I would like Boden
to be kept at ten and obviously we know how
dangerous Damien is in broken play, so him coming off
the bench is still a really good option. I think.
I just think that people should have a bit more
(15:10):
faith in him now based on his performance at first
five in that game.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, I agree, I totally.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I think it'll be people will say, if there's ever
any doubt about Damien McKenzie's ability to run a team around,
will remember Dublin in early November as our point of reference.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
The Fast five netball.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Look, I know this is different from the Silver Ferns,
but you know more than anybody that there's a position
in the shooting circle for the Silver Ferns next year.
Do you think anybody who played for New Zealand in
Fast five over the weekend put their hand up to
replace Grace and Wick next year?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yes, but not in the way you might think so.
Martina Salmon was the standout performer for me for the
Silver Ferns in terms of her shooting from range. She
nailed New Zealand down by five against South Africa with
ten seconds to go, and in New Zealand didn't have
the ball, caused a turnover, got the ball up the
end of the court, Martina Salmon, with one second on
the clock nails a six point goal from beyond the arc.
(16:05):
It was outrageous and everyone went nut and that was
a really defining moment. But she was consistent across those
games in the Fast five competition. Unfortunately they couldn't get
the job done against Australia. But what I'm seeing from
her is a real ability to shoot from range. And
if you think back to the twenty twenty three Wheel Cup,
that was the ferns Achilles heel. They didn't want to
shoot from range, and that's an area that Amelia aanikin
Nacio has really stepped up in over the last year,
(16:28):
and she's beginning to shoot from range a lot more.
I think that Martina Salmon could become that sort of
Maria Filau role, that goal attack who can shoot from
range that iranik Nassi is becoming more like. Of course,
she's thirty three, she's not going to be around forever.
I still see Amelia Warmsley as the person who will
replace Grace Wick. So if Grace goes over to Australia
(16:48):
and for whatever maybe amlianaik Nasio is injured, or maybe
she decides to step away from the game. I think
the shooting circle becomes Amelia Warmsley at goal shoot and
Martina Salmon at goal attack. She certainly put her hand
up for that bib.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
All right, some interesting selections for Dame Nolane when twenty
twenty five rolls around and rugby leagues the other specialty
of course, and your many special teasers. Host of the
Big League podcast, The Kiwi's Beating Papua New Guinea. I'm
not sure that there was ever any doubt that they
would do this, but after losses to both Australia and
Tonga in the Pacific Nations Championship, how do you assess
(17:22):
where the Kiwis are right now?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
It is really difficult to definitively say this is where
the Kiwis are because of how many injuries they had
pre tournament. If you think about the haves Dylan Brown,
no Jerome Hughes and noa Made Martin, no one would
have thought that we'd be running after the Shawn Johnson
retirement announcement, Sean Johnson and Charsenckl crookstart as how two haves,
so that plays a really important role in terms of
how the team is running, and I think both of
(17:46):
them played really well. Johnson had five triases and that
game against Paper New Guinea Charlesy could cook start was solid.
But combine the fact with how many injuries they had
to senior players, with the number of youngsters debutants, this
strikes me as a team with huge, huge potential. Casey
McClain winger eighteen years old scoring four tries last night
on debut. You think about well Warbrick, Phoenix, Rosland, Jordan
(18:08):
and LeKi Keanu Kenny, he was fantastic throughout the Pacific Championships,
Keenie at fullback. These are players who are in the
infancies of their international careers and give them even a year,
two years, three years, they are going to be the
players for the Kiwis. So when you bring those sort
of factors together, this was sort of like a taster.
I don't think you can definitively say, okay, their third
(18:31):
best in the world or whatever whatever, because in any
year's time they're going to look very different, hopefully won't
have as many injuries, and all of those younger players
are going to be far far more.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Established indeed, and for Stacy Jones, good to get off
the mark as well with his first win as a
full time head coach of the Kiwis.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
The time is.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Flying by in the chamber, Nathan, that's all we have
time for mate, Thanks for stopping in.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Great to get your analysis.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Thanks for having me Pony leading a vex.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
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This is Sportsfix howard By News Talks ed B.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello there and welcome into a fresh weekend, a fresh
episode of the sports Fit podcast for November eleven. I'm
Jason Pine, goodabby along quite a bit to get through today. Australia,
off the back of a fairly dismal sort of a
rugby championship, have stunned England at Twickenham, first time they've
won there since the Rugby World Cup of twenty.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Fifteen, and what a way to do it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Forty two thirty seven and a try well after the hooter.
Australian rugby journalist, broadcaster and podcaster Brett McKay going to
run an I over that one. I've got some thoughts
on the black Caps Test team and why we absolutely
should not even be thinking about dropping one player in particular,
Nathan Lind's in the chamber to kick around a bit
(01:02):
of rugby, a bit an fall and rugby league in
a bit more besides, so.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
In other news, let's get underway checking out some of
the big sports stories. Floating around today. The black Caps
have leveled their T twenty cricket series against Sri Lanka
with a five run win in the second and final
match at dam Bulla.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
It's gone straight up.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It's the Capers asked to me and hey dozen and
sun the black Caps.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
They level the series and look at.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The jubilation here the black Caps one hundred and eight
and bowling Sri Lanka out for one hundred and three.
Rockie Ferguson taking three for seven, including a hat trick,
to the rugby at murray Field, adding.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
The extra Tues twenty two points to fifteen and ends.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The spring Bokx have beat in Scotland thirty two fifteen
to complete a clean sweep by Rugby Championship sides across
the weekend's Test action. After winning efforts from the all
Blacksta Wallabies and lost Pumas and Arsenal have missed a
chance to clinch a winner in the final seconds of
their Premier League FOOTBA match at Chelsea Saliba.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
What a builder a Frisco away from a match winning.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Moments and the game comes to an end that failed
of tenth with the final act of a one all
draw between Chelsea and Arsenal.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine on.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
The Sports Fix podcast. Remarkable scenes at Twickenham yesterday morning.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
It it's out for Jorgensen, Max Jorvison, Max Jarginson. No
they didn't. Oh my goodness me. Oh, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
It's one of the greatest moments in Wallaby's history and
it belongs to Jorginson.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
They have stunned England.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Incredible A try well after the hooter from Max Jorgensen
has given the Wallabyes a forty two to thirty seven
win over.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
England at Twickenham.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Let's bring in Australian rugby broadcaster, a journalist, columnist and
co host of the eight nine Combo Rugby podcast, Brett McKay. Brett,
You've watched a heak of a lot of Wallaby's rugby, mate.
Where does that game rate?
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Oh, it's I'm literally in the middle of writing writing
my conference for Rugby Pass as we speak, Piney, and
I've just written the paragraph that I can't think of
it readily. Think of anything in the last four or
five seasons that would top it, and you could probably
push it back to that but that's about as far
(03:37):
as the memory goes these days. I must have been
so it was. It was just phenomenal, it really was,
and it was phenomenal for so many reasons, but most
of all it was the fact that we went through
all the emotions that we did morrow Toje scores that
try in the minute, and you know, I know I
wasn't the only Baldies fan at four o'clock in the
(03:59):
morning thinking oh God, not again. And then for them
to pull out that play, you know, three minutes after
the after the bell, you know, wasn't it wasn't from
it, It wasn't from a line out drive, It wasn't it
wasn't a scrum set play they'd handled for four or
five or six phase or whatever it was, and then
(04:20):
they just tried something out on the edge and they
pulled it off and they scored one of the great
Wallaby tries, it has to be said. And it was
just a phenomenal performance across the board that has made
burning an Australian rugby fan a pretty enjoyable experience in
the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Certainly, absolutely well, I want to talk about it in
a greater context as far as the years concern both
what we've had and what is to come. But I
want to ask you about a couple of players, a
lot of a lot of hype around, a lot of
chat around about Joseph Sali and his Wallaby's debut.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
How did you assass his contribution?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Yeah, he was. He was fantastic, There's no there's no
doubting about that. He's I mean, I've seen him why
and I know he was a fear only won the
official Man of the match, but I would suggest there
was probably four or five at least other Wallabies who
are easily in front of him. And that's not to
(05:18):
downplay that he had a fantastic game, but more to
make the point that it was a reel across the
board performance from the Wallabies, and the fact that it
was at least four or five and it might ever
be six or seven or eight sort of speaks to
how widely this performance was shared across the board. But
he was great that I made the point upon the
podcast in our post bortum yesterday that the best compliment
(05:41):
that I can give him, whilst also trying to you know,
drill down the hype a little bit, is just to
say that he looks like a rugby player. He doesn't
look like it didn't look like that was his first
game rugby in four years or whatever it was. He
just looks like a rugby player. And his hands are good,
his instincts are good. You know, he's still there's plenty
(06:02):
of things for him to work on his game, but
he you know, even just little things about where he
placed the ball in the ruck and how he rolled
away from tackles. His rugby instincts are still really, really strong.
And that's really exciting, mate, because you know they're going in.
Last week, the expectation was, you know, it looks like
(06:23):
he's going to play. Do you start him on the wing?
Do you start him on the bench. The easy thing
to do would have been to start him on the
bench and bring him in. But he certainly impressed plenty
at the camps leading into it. They've thrown him to
the deep end and he's just delivered. And so it's
actually really exciting to think what he could do from here,
and then more so to think about what he could
(06:45):
actually do in a war tars jumper in Super Rugby
next year.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah, we're looking forward to seeing that as well. You
mentioned that there are other players who were on a
par in terms of their performance. Was one of those
loose head prop Angus Bell?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely he was. I could flip a
coin between he and Rob Valentine as my picks his stats.
She is just incredible, Angus Bell. You know, nine defenders
beaten and I think I think I've heard or read
this morning that that's the most from a Wallabies player
(07:19):
in a presume it's in the UK or maybe even
Sat twigting, maybe it's overall. I can't quite remember the contest,
but it was context. It was the most of it
a wall of his player since Marika Coro Betsy beat
eleven in a game in twenty nineteen. Wow, and so
you're not nine defenders beaten from a loose head proper.
He played seventy and a half minutes, which is just
(07:40):
it's absolutely phenomenal and it was a well earned rest
when he came off. What he did, but he was
he carrying was great, you know, showed a bit of
footwork in contact, showed some deft hands at times. He's
just his game has come on leaps and bound. He
was always going to be a really good footballer, but
he's he's I think he's one of the best Louise
(08:01):
Heads getting around right at this point in time, and
he's been getting better all year and you know, I
think that was probably his best performance in a Test match,
which is which is saying something.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
So teats to come in the next three weekends against Wales,
Scotland and Ireland. How much more optimistic do you feel
about those Test matches given what happened at Twickenham.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
Yeah, And it's a really good question, and it's a
really dangerous one from an Australian fan because because because
experience says or you know, what could go wrong here now,
and you can't help but think about that because we've
seen this, this happened so many times and particularly on
Northern tours. I think the expectation going into this tour
was they win two of those two of the four tests.
(08:47):
You know, that's that's going to be a that's that's
probably fairly fairly fair for where this team is. You know,
should beat Wales, Scotland is the danger game England and
Ireland at either end, he's going to be too big tests.
You're not okay England at Twickenham now and straight away
you're thinking differently about Wales this weekend and Scotland next weekend,
(09:08):
because the expectation now will be should beat Wales pretty well.
They've gone down to Fiji, you know, just this morning
our time, so you know you'd think that they should
do the job there pretty well. And then Scotland this morning.
You know, they looked in the end, I think, pretty
well beaten by South Africa, which is not a slot
(09:30):
on Scotland necessarily because plenty of teams has been well
beaten by South Africa this year, Australia included. But you know,
I think it was also the way that they were
beaten that sort of suggests that you know, there it's
actually probably a good matchup, and it was. It was
always a dangerous game, but I think it's it's certainly
very very winnable for the Wallabies now and again having
(09:53):
beaten England at Twicken them, the expectation I think now
will be that they definitely.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Can brilliant stuff. Brett.
Speaker 3 (09:58):
Thanks, indeed, we even enjoyed it over here mate, watching
the Wallabies after what's been a tough year for them
getting one up over the English. Really appreciate you joining us.
Brett McKay, Australian right journalist on the Sports Fixed podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Sports Fact Sense.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
While the black Caps are currently playing a bit of
white ball cricket in Sri Lanka, there's massive anticipation about
the upcoming three Test series against England back here in
New Zealand. After his manner the series' efforts in India,
it'd be really harsh on will Young to drop him
when came Williamson's fit enough to come back, which by
all accounts he will be for these matches. So I
reckon there are two ways you can play both will
(10:34):
Young and came Williamson. Option one, you push everybody down
one and go with three seemers, so Conway lath and Williamson,
Revendra Young, Mitchell Blundell, Phillips and three seemers. The other
option is you drop Glenn Phillips and I can't believe
him saying that and go with four seemers, So Conway
lath and Williamson, Revendra Young, Mitchell Blundel and your four seemers.
(10:56):
Or you could leave Will Young out, which as I say,
would be very harsh for the first Test in christ Hitch,
I have to say I'd go with number two much
as I love Glen Phillips and what he brings to
the team, he might be the one who drops out
for this Test. I feel like we need the four
seamers in christ Church to get our twenty wickets. History
tells us that, and we can get our spinovers if
(11:17):
we need them out of Rich and Revendra. Be interesting
to see what the selectors do. One thing I've heard suggested,
which I am one hundred percent not a fan of,
is dropping Tom Blundell and giving the gloves to either
Devin Conway or Tom Latham for starters. This is Test cricket,
not whpeball cricket. You absolutely must have a specialist behind
(11:38):
the stumps, and even if you were looking to try
someone else, it wouldn't be one of your opening batsmen.
You can't have a day and a half crouching behind
the stumps and all the concentration that goes with that,
and then be expected to open the batting. It's true
Tom Blundell's had a difficult time with the bat recently,
just one score of fifty in his last twenty three testings,
but on the whole his keeping is very good and
(11:59):
that's the main reason he's in the side. Yes, he
needs to contribute runs as well and that will happen.
You don't score Test hundreds against Australia at the MC,
a couple against England in England and one on debut
against the West Indies without being able to hold a bat.
Tom Blundle plays at least for this series and if
at some point you're looking to replace them in the
(12:20):
Test side, you do it with another specialist, not a
makeshift keeper.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
On the Sports Fix podcast. Time to kick around a
few of the big sports issues which are floating around
today inside the Chamber, joined by news Talks hereb New
Zealand Herald multi media journalist and jack of all trades
Nathan Lymb. Nathan, a bit to get through today, including
a couple of your specialties which I'd love your analysis
on some rugby leg and some netball. Before that, they
mate the All Blacks getting the job done against Ireland
(12:54):
having given it the overnight Test or a couple of
nights of an overnight Test.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
How do you feel about the All Blacks performance?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yeah? Well, I mean you can't complain at all, can you.
I don't think many people were expecting them to win
based off I guess what we've seen throughout this year
in the form that Ireland had been in. I think
what really played into the All Blacks hands was the
fact that this was Ireland's first test of the year
and you could clearly see how rusty they were. They
were shooting themselves in the foot constantly with the drop balls,
(13:22):
just weren't able to get any rhythm going. Apart from that,
ten minutes after half time, I thought that All Blacks were,
for the most part brilliant. Damien McKenzie was fantastic silence
his doubtest I think in the first five Jersey, and
just his mental resilience, his calmness under pressure to slot
that kick from halfway and then nearly doing it again
(13:42):
a few minutes later. His composure, I think is something
that it wasn't talked about enough when people were debating
whether he should be the first five. And I think
Boden Barrett is still the first choice. But Damien McKenzie
ice cold off the tea, ice cold, and I think
he deserves a lot of plaudits. Moore I thought was
really good as well. But again I think if it
(14:03):
was Ireland's seventh, eight tenth Test of the year. That
game could have been very different and Ireland could have
won that.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
I absolutely concur with the fact that it looked like
a team that hadn't played for a while, particularly in
the last twenty minutes. Play selected for me on the
two players you've brought up Damien McKenzie, Jamian McKenzie, guff
for one more, let's just hypothetically say that Boden Barrett
and Cody Taylor are fit next week. What do you
do in the two and ten jerseys.
Speaker 6 (14:28):
I still stick with Cody Taylor and Boden Barrett. Almore
had a good game. Still another line out throw when
to Rye and I think that that does hurt the
All Blacks and he knows it, and you know he's
working on it and he will get there. I love
the explosiveness that comes from al Moore with sort of
twenty to go off the bench as well, so I
do like having Cody Taylor there to start. In regards
(14:49):
to the first five jumper, I really do feel that
our attack looked a hell of a lot more composed
and organized when Bowden Barrett was running the cutter and
just all of his experiences. Well, I would like Boden
to be kept at ten and obviously we know how
dangerous Damien is in broken play, so him coming off
the bench is still a really good option. I think.
I just think that people should have a bit more
(15:10):
faith in him now based on his performance at first
five in that game.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
Yeah, I agree, I totally.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
I think it'll be people will say, if there's ever
any doubt about Damien McKenzie's ability to run a team around,
will remember Dublin in early November as our point of reference.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
The Fast five netball.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Look, I know this is different from the Silver Ferns,
but you know more than anybody that there's a position
in the shooting circle for the Silver Ferns next year.
Do you think anybody who played for New Zealand in
Fast five over the weekend put their hand up to
replace Grace and Wick next year?
Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yes, but not in the way you might think so.
Martina Salmon was the standout performer for me for the
Silver Ferns in terms of her shooting from range. She
nailed New Zealand down by five against South Africa with
ten seconds to go, and in New Zealand didn't have
the ball, caused a turnover, got the ball up the
end of the court, Martina Salmon, with one second on
the clock nails a six point goal from beyond the arc.
(16:05):
It was outrageous and everyone went nut and that was
a really defining moment. But she was consistent across those
games in the Fast five competition. Unfortunately they couldn't get
the job done against Australia. But what I'm seeing from
her is a real ability to shoot from range. And
if you think back to the twenty twenty three Wheel Cup,
that was the ferns Achilles heel. They didn't want to
shoot from range, and that's an area that Amelia aanikin
Nacio has really stepped up in over the last year,
(16:28):
and she's beginning to shoot from range a lot more.
I think that Martina Salmon could become that sort of
Maria Filau role, that goal attack who can shoot from
range that iranik Nassi is becoming more like. Of course,
she's thirty three, she's not going to be around forever.
I still see Amelia Warmsley as the person who will
replace Grace Wick. So if Grace goes over to Australia
(16:48):
and for whatever maybe amlianaik Nasio is injured, or maybe
she decides to step away from the game. I think
the shooting circle becomes Amelia Warmsley at goal shoot and
Martina Salmon at goal attack. She certainly put her hand
up for that bib.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
All right, some interesting selections for Dame Nolane when twenty
twenty five rolls around and rugby leagues the other specialty
of course, and your many special teasers. Host of the
Big League podcast, The Kiwi's Beating Papua New Guinea. I'm
not sure that there was ever any doubt that they
would do this, but after losses to both Australia and
Tonga in the Pacific Nations Championship, how do you assess
(17:22):
where the Kiwis are right now?
Speaker 6 (17:24):
It is really difficult to definitively say this is where
the Kiwis are because of how many injuries they had
pre tournament. If you think about the haves Dylan Brown,
no Jerome Hughes and noa Made Martin, no one would
have thought that we'd be running after the Shawn Johnson
retirement announcement, Sean Johnson and Charsenckl crookstart as how two haves,
so that plays a really important role in terms of
how the team is running, and I think both of
(17:46):
them played really well. Johnson had five triases and that
game against Paper New Guinea Charlesy could cook start was solid.
But combine the fact with how many injuries they had
to senior players, with the number of youngsters debutants, this
strikes me as a team with huge, huge potential. Casey
McClain winger eighteen years old scoring four tries last night
on debut. You think about well Warbrick, Phoenix, Rosland, Jordan
(18:08):
and LeKi Keanu Kenny, he was fantastic throughout the Pacific Championships,
Keenie at fullback. These are players who are in the
infancies of their international careers and give them even a year,
two years, three years, they are going to be the
players for the Kiwis. So when you bring those sort
of factors together, this was sort of like a taster.
I don't think you can definitively say, okay, their third
(18:31):
best in the world or whatever whatever, because in any
year's time they're going to look very different, hopefully won't
have as many injuries, and all of those younger players
are going to be far far more.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Established indeed, and for Stacy Jones, good to get off
the mark as well with his first win as a
full time head coach of the Kiwis.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
The time is.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Flying by in the chamber, Nathan, that's all we have
time for mate, Thanks for stopping in.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
Great to get your analysis.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
Thanks for having me Pony leading a vex.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
We've got just the ticket. It's Sportsfix, how it blay,
News Talks, evy.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
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