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October 16, 2024 • 18 mins

On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for Thursday 17 October 2024 - Jared Lawson, the father of F1 superstar Liam Lawson talks about his son's success and future in the sport. 

D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on the feud that is mounting between ETNZ and INEOS Britannia.  

Plus, the lads join the panel to discuss what's next for Hoskins Sotutu? 

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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This is Sportsfix Howard by News talks Ed.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Be Hello there and welcome into a fresh episode of
the Sports Fixed podcast for Thursday, October seventeen. Great to
have you listening, and I'm Jason Pine.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Buys are back in town. Oh, it's nice to be
with you again, Jason Pine. After my little sojourn to
their lucky land, the West Island. Great to be back
communicating and broadcasting with you, my friend, and I.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Enjoyed the little burst of Finn Lizzy there to bring
us back together.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
Now you are old enough to recognize that, right, what
have we got coming up? Well?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I was going to ask you the same thing. I
know that Liam Lawson has a drive at the Formula
One of the United States this weekend. I think you're
chatting to one of his family members.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Yeah, Jared Lawson and his entire family have sacrificed so
much over so long to get that young man to
where he's got. Let's face it, without him driving and
the talented show, he wouldn't have got anywhere. So Jared
Lawson keenly anticipating what is going to be an immense
weekend for New Zealand motorsport and for the Lawson.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Family looking forward to hearing from Jared. I've got a
few topics to kick around with you, namely America's Cup,
Auckland FC's opening game in the A League mens and
what happens now to Hoskins. So two to two plus
a bit more, so, let's get into it. In other news,
Let's begin with a look at some of the biggest
sports stories floating around today. Britannia had scored their first

(01:41):
two race wins over Team New Zealand at the America's Cup,
reducing the deficit to four to two. In the first
to seven series off the coast of Barcelona, Team New
Zealand made their first key mistake of the gatter when
their boat fell off the foils, and the prestart build
up to Race one overnight zero absolutely at the moment
so the British War dipstart kiwis could be part there

(02:04):
for a long time. All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has
Okay Rico Yowanni engaging in some mind games and social
media banter with Ireland ahead of the size visit to
Dublin next month. Yuani singled out by retired Irish first
five Johnny Sexton in his recently released book.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
It's All Done, Coach.

Speaker 4 (02:21):
But that's I think.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
You know, when people write books and you bring up
those moments, is going to create chair and talk and
it's part of the game.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
And German Thomas Tukel has been confirmed as the new
manager of the England men's football team.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
It is very new because they come from from club football.
So the rhythm, the responsibility, the role. It suited my
passion and my ma strive to push this group of players.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Leading of X. We've got just the ticket. It's Sportsfix
how my news talks.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
IVY joined now by Jared Lawson yet the father of
a young man called Liam. He's rased Formula one before,
but now he's got a ticket. He signed a contract
with the v CARB team. He's got to the end
of the year nine races, six upper and three sprint
races to impress the powers that beat. Jared, welcome to

(03:14):
the program. I thought you might have been over there
following your son around, but you've decided to step back
to try and to alleviate the pressure was that your
idea or his.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
And welcome, thank you. No, it wasn't really to alleviate
any pressure. It was more just the fact that at
the end of the day, we had we've had a
couple of weeks, a couple of months ago with him
spending some quality time and honestly, on a race weekend
you don't get to see him anyway, So we disfigured
we'd leave him to it and we'll look at going

(03:45):
to one of the rounds later in the year.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
What kind of contact have you had with them over
the last couple of weeks was if you look on
social media, look on the Formula one sites, all the
chat groups, he's very much the focus of what's happening
after the unfortunate way that Ricardo was left. How's he
dealing with that the last couple of weeks, So they'd
been tense.

Speaker 4 (04:04):
You know, he's actually finally spoke to him the other
day and he's in a good play. He's I mean,
he's been he's been waiting for this opportunity to come
back again for you know, for twelve months now, so
I mean he's he's champion at the bit to get
in the seat and get started. So you know, I
don't think there's he certainly, you know, he knows it's

(04:25):
going to be a big mountain decline, as he's already said.
But I think, you know, the reality is this weekend
will be a little bit of a reset, getting familiar
with the car and then from there, you know, starting
to try and make in roads in terms of speed
and getting up to speed.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Patience it's a virtue in his case, after what happened
when he turned up and raced for Ricardo and then
was turned down for the role. He sat there. He's
done a lot of work in the simulator. He's been very,
very patient. That's stress for you. How does he deal
with that? You've watched him grow and watched him deal

(05:05):
with stress and delay the way through his career, So
how does this work for him?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
Now?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
He's obviously mature, but how did he what did he
go through?

Speaker 4 (05:15):
I think I think he's I mean, particularly last twelve
months probably in the hardest for him in his entire
racing career. I mean, not having a racing program to
do as a race car driver is you know, it's
not something that you know, any of them would deal
with particularly well. But I think you know, he's twenty
two now, he's mentally very strong, and you know, I

(05:37):
think he knew he had to basically sit it out
and wait to see what was happening. By far, Red
Bull was still the best option for him, and it
still is the best opportunity for him. So I mean,
I think you know, he's smart enough to realize that
at the end of the day, I'm in the right spot,
just be patient and let it all happen.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
I must have been tempting though, when there were door
knocks from other teams saying maybe you should come over
and read Bull. Obviously Ky boss and said no, that
he's our guy, But the temptation still would have been there,
just to get into a seat as soon as puzzleble.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Yeah, it's very without going into too much contract, so
it's very difficult for, you know, for someone to leave
in that scenario because you know he's come up through
their junior ranks and you know they've invested in him obviously.
You know, Liam's got a lot of financial supporters here
in New Zealand as well, and you know the fact
that Red Bull have and haven't done that investment, put

(06:33):
that investment into him they make sure that they're not
going to lose that investment. So you know, for them
taking the option on the contract was you know, either
they took it or they didn't take it. If they
didn't take it, he was you know, he was free
to move on. And but you know, at the end
of the day, I think after last year, everyone was

(06:56):
reasonably confident. You can never be one hundred percent confident,
but that had done enough for them to not want
to let him go.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Jared Lawson joins his father of Liam Lawson ahead of
his what do you call it a reprise Formula one
after what happened last time around? Tell us about expectations
around the sprint race and the qualifying for that's very
different way to go about your business. It's at the
circuit of the America's Kota, which is a wonderful racetrack.

(07:23):
How does Lim approach what happens considering that he's going
to have a ten grid ten place grid penalty when
it comes to qualifying for the race itself and Formula
One not Sprint.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
Yeah, I think at the end of the day, I mean,
no race driver likes to start on the back foot,
and I mean he's not happy about it, But at
the end of the day, it gives him, I think,
an opportunity to get familiar with the car again, because
I believe it or not, he hasn't actually driven. I
think he's driven this car for one filming day earlier
in the year. That's the only only time he's actually
driven this particular incarnation of the car. So I think

(08:00):
for him it'll be session by session, and he hasn't
got a lot of time. He's got one free prec
pos session before that qualifier, and that will just be
about dialing into the track, getting some Williward car and
then from there, I think the sprint race will be
will be very good for him in terms of getting
to the next part of the weekend because obviously the

(08:21):
Grand Prix is the important part of the weekend, the
real important part of the weekend. So I think he
will mentally, he will just he will know that he's
just got to build and build and build.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
Come this weekend, We've got another new Zealander involved in
Formula One. It's going to be an epic weekend. Jared Lawson,
take your phone off the hawk, talk to nobody for
the entire weekend and we'll catch up again soon as well.
Thanks very much for your time.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
This is Sportsfix, You're daily does of Sports News cow
and by News Talk.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Zby I'll for zip becomes four to two suddenly. The
New Zealander entry to the America's Cup final is a
wobbling so. Ben Aisley has climbed into the team after
going two in a row in the latest round of
the America's Cup off the shores of Bath Thelona. He's

(09:16):
quipped a couple of times about the attitude around the
New Zealand's team, suggesting they shouldn't rest on their laurels
after spending the lay day at home looking at stats
as opposed to getting out on the water and practicing
their art. The ruin of New Zealand at Yacht Squadron
Entry sadly today dropped the ball. They dropped the ball,

(09:39):
first being late to the start box and then falling
off the foils and sitting there like a not so
beached whale. As Team Britannia disappeared up the first leg
race number two of the day, nearly had it done.
Unfortunately who wriggled through right out there on the border.

(09:59):
It was a Team Britannia won the start and then
not tore away but maintained that lead to suddenly go
four to two in areas of the Royal New Zealand
Yacht Squadron entry Toehordal. So what happens overnight we don't know.
Is it sliding away? Are we seeing a repeat of

(10:20):
San Francisco? One thing we did learn that the sea
state the rough conditions that both of those foiling yachts
experienced in Barcelona. One dealt with them, one didn't. What
transpires overnight? Is there a chance that suddenly going into
the weekend it is for a piece in the first

(10:41):
to seven race to pick up the old mug. If anything,
it's added extra impetus to what Team New Zealand are
up to out in the water. If anything, it's added
an extra layer of intrigue. But the biggest thing here
there is a chance now that the Britons could turn
around and beat Team New Zealand looking for three consecutive

(11:05):
victories in the America's Cup. And if that doesn't get
on the screen, I don't know what will.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Time for us to get together again in the chamber
to pull up Alina and to chew the fat over
a few issues. I've heard your views on the two
race wins for Britanna overnight. I wake up this morning
expecting to see a six nil score line. Instead it's
four to two. Have we got a race on our
hands yet?

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well you think so. I woke up this morning and
immediately hit the replay. I didn't want to read the
result and wanted to watch both the races. Fact I've
watched all of the races so far. Find it very intriguing.
I love the technology. I love the sound too, Jason.
It sounds like spaceships the way they communicate with each
other and talk to each other through the colmns. It's

(11:53):
very very otherworldly the way they communicate. But what we
saw was a situation where there wasn't a strength for
Peter Burling, Nathan Outridge and his team. They showed that
they are vulnerable and they can fall over, which is
the exactly what they did, and watching them fail around
in the sea was really quite sobering. And then in

(12:15):
the second race they just got beaten at the start.
They got out maneuvered by the team Britanna, who we
thought might not be able to get away with what
was being stranger on them, but they did so I
think for our purposes this is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Game on pine, game on indeed. So that's four to two.
No racing overnight tonight. The next two races are the
early hours of Saturday morning our time. Even if ten
New Zealand was to win both of those, that would
only be six too. So the earliest they can win
it now is Sunday morning. But yeah, from a situation
where I just assumed we had the faster boat after
four races in a couple of different types of conditions,

(12:53):
four nil and four to two, I know it's only
a couple of race wins, but it makes an enormous difference,
doesn't it. It almost makes the next two Saturday morning pretty pivotal. Ah,
well it does.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
And the chopier rougher conditions, the increased sea, he said,
if you will, it makes the sailing of the craft
even more important. So you look at the team, and
you look at the nature of the boat, how quick
it can actually be up one or downwind. But it
comes back to the men who are piloting this machine.
And I like that less boat, more sailors, and that's

(13:25):
what we want.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Right, absolutely is more what we want, okay, So we
look forward to races what will be races seven and
eight early hours of Saturday morning. So by the time
Darcie it's the air on the All Sports Breakfast on
Saturday morning, we'll know the shape of play. Now. I
want to ask you as well about Hoskins Stutu. He
has been named or was named in the New Zealand

(13:47):
fifteen squad for the upcoming tour when they'll play games
against both Georgia and Munster, but he has been robbed
of a return a knee injury, ruling him out of
a call up or a participation in that squad. On
a wider view, I've heard it suggested that he's basically
not wanting to be part of a All Blacks fifteen

(14:08):
or therefore an all Black setup because he wants to
change allegiance. What are you thinking about the future of
Hoskins Stutu.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
It's an attrition based sport in the loose Ford trio
more than anywhere else in the game of rugby union.
And I'd hate to think that Hoskins is going to
drop his bottom lip and run off and play for
the British I think that'd be a defeatist call from him.
And when you look at the three guys that aren't
playing because they've been broken, this is going to keep happening.

(14:39):
And Hoskins has got a lot of learn He's got
a lot to prove, and I think that would just
steal his attitude more knowing he's got to fight his
way back. So I'd be disappointed if Hoskins decided to
go off overseas. It just doesn't show the spine. I
think we want on an all black yet.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
And I think I guess the flip side of that
is if he does decide to go, then then maybe
it's you know, it's the best for everybody. I think
any coach would tell you they only want players who
are fully committed to their side. I look at our
loose forward stocks right now, Darston, I have just jotted
down a few names. Savia, Satiti, Papale, Larky. You're say Black,
added Jacobsen, female Koreifi. That's without Hoskins Satutu. So it's

(15:19):
hardly as though the coboard is bear.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
It's not. Can you imagine that combo of Ardie, Savia
and the Larky in the loose marauding right their way through.
There's some fantastic players and of course the standout players
so far of the year Wallace Satiti. What a loose
Ford treo. That is a they're all fit.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Six seven eight of Satiti which he played for the Chiefs,
Larki seven and Savia at eight or even Flip larkye
and saviraver minutes. It's mouth watering. We might get the
chance to see it now because like I of course
has been added to the to the All Black squad
because Dotton Papalee's got some injury problems. So yeah, we
wait and see what happens with that. Now. Will you
be at Mount Smart on Saturday for Auckland FC's opening

(16:01):
game in the A League. No, well, you're going to
be one of the few who aren't going to be
there from what I've heard. I'm here and this is selling.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Out apparently so and I'm really really pleased for them
and for the team I have other what's.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
The word commitment commitments.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Are going to be involved in and I wish them
the absolute best and I hope it sells out. The
interesting thing for me here, it's all well and good.
The first game the first two three games. But what
happens at the start of next season, what happens if
they drop a few games? Is that energy still there?
They've got They've done a lot of work, haven't they
Around talking to the media, around promoting the game, around

(16:39):
dragging some big names in behind the team, which all
counts for nothing if they string together a series of losses.
And I don't think you can overlook that, remembering what
happened to the Knights and the Kings.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Right, yeah, And I think you're so right. They can
do as much community engagement as much sort of you know,
connecting to their community and visiting football clubs and going
to schools and marketing as they like. But yeah, at
the end of the day, people like to watch winning teams.
Having said that, the Warriors seem to have cracked this
because come rainhal or shine, when lose or draw, come

(17:11):
hello high water, they seem to turn up at Mount
Smart to watch that team. So maybe Auckland FC, you'll
get a bit of the magic dust that the Warriors
mean sprinkling. But what straight off the walls.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Of Mount Smart or Go Media Stadium or whatever they
call it in this day, And I really hope the best.
I think the big game, the game that I will
make my way out there for, will be the local derby.
I think when it comes to the A League, our
New Zealanders can't quite believe there's an opportunity that we
get an A League derby. That's huge.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yep, that's going to be messive. There's one in Wellington
and round three and then in early December. I will
see you there, Darcy and I maybe could sit together
and watch the derby together and maybe compare notes.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Wow, hold on, you're saying you don't invite me up
to the commentary box. You're in trouble now, mate, Sky
are never going to invite you back.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah. I started that sentence without really thinking about the
repercussions of finishing it, if I'm honest. But maybe we can,
maybe we can see what the lie of the Landers
as we get closer to Christmas. All Right, that's us
and the Chamber for today, dissecting the sporting agenda.

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