July 19, 2024 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 19th July 2024, NZ Heralds Liam Napier addresses the reports that Ardie Savea could be on the move
The Rumor mill is swirling about Ardie Savea's future. Reports are suggesting that he is about to sign with Moana Pasifika for the next Super Rugby season. Rugby insider Liam Napier discusses what this could mean for Moana Pasifika and how much of a seismic shift this is in Super Rugby
Plus, Piney and D'Arcy discuss whether there's any danger in Fiji pulling the upset over a young All Blacks team, and how far away from 'must win' territory are the Warriors as they shape up for the Raiders
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello and welcome in to a fresh edition of the
Sports Fix podcast. It is Friday, July nineteen, last time
I checked them. We'll be for a few more hours yet.
I'm Jason Pine alongside.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Me Darcy water Grave.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We don't serve stale goods on this program. Young man,
how do you say a fresh episode? And it's always
going to be fresh?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
They are always fresh and as other views, as are
the opinions, as are the discussion points. One big discussion
point today. I know you want to chat to an
expert about this. I've got some less than expert opinion on.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Artie Savvier going to Mowana PACIFICA.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, a guy has been breaking that story, is known
about it for a while. Liam Napier from New Zealand Herald.
Talk to him about this story, where it goes, where
it started, what happens next. It's a it's a big story.
When I first saw us at the Blues, don't what
I'm surely no, it's not the Blues. It's more on
a pussy feaker. This is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah. In fact, even as a Hurricanes fan, I agree
more on that in the moment, and we'll kick some
issues around in the chamber, including tonight's must win. Should
we call it back Warriors against the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
In other news.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Let's kick things off as always by looking at some
of the big sports stories today are humbling outing in
clement weather for many of the world's top golfers in
the Open Championship first round at Royal Troon.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Keep we Ryan Fox one of four.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
New Zealanders he covered the two over past seventy three.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's an absolute brute and you just got to hit
really good shots and you kind of know the pars
a good score on any hole from practice. And then
you get out obviously today and you know, you know,
it's blowing, it's a little wet. You're just kind of
trying to hang in there and if you're happen to
make a couple of puss tuo a good score, it's great.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Victor by name Victor by actions on stage eighteen of
Cyclings Tour de France Chapinas, Victor caperinats is he gonna
win his first ever Stage of the top Victor. Victor
Combinats conquered the hilly one hundred and seventy nine kilometer
leg after a three man sprint and form All Black
half back Justin Marshall believes Rico Yoanni might be under
(02:18):
pressure for the All Blacks thirteen jersey.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Which makes me think crystal ball gazing looking into that
fish pawn.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That they are maybe looking at Billy.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Proper As as a prospect to start in the Rugby
Championship of center leading of Vex.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Vex. Now my
news talks.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
IVY and it's with open arms. I greet mister Liam
Napier Endzed, Herald Rugby writer to the program. Liam great
story released today around the possibility of Ardie Savia moving
to Auckland. When I first saw that, I thought, what
is going to the Blues? But no, what's the general
just behind the story?
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Hey to as great to be here. Look, this has
been bubbling away for a number of weeks. Ardie Severe
returned from his sixth month sabbatico in Japan and he
had a clause in his contract that allows him to
move from the Hurricanes to another New Zealand Super Rugby team.
So there've been bubblings rumors of the past couple of
weeks about a potential move to the Blues or Miana
(03:18):
Pacifica and my understanding that's come to a head and
he's very close to joining Moana, which would be a
major coup for a franchise that's only been alive for
three years, that doesn't have a home base, that's struggle
for sponsorship, struggle to gain a foothold in the market.
Ardie's brother Julian plays for Moana tana Umanga coached them
(03:41):
and then improve massively this year. But a big story
because Artie Severe is a former Hurricanes captain, a centurion
of the franchise. Didn't play last year for the Hurricanes
because he was in Japan. But a very big development
because this is the reigning World Rugby Player of the Year.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
He's very very good at what he does and he's
arguably just had his prime. So I suppose you've got
to look at a number of storylines out of this. First,
why Auckland and why more on a pussy fiki you'd
think Blues, But what's the draw card up here?
Speaker 6 (04:13):
I think Artie first and foremost is a proud Polynesian man.
His parents are proud, and playing with his brother Julian,
who used to do at the Hurricanes, I think would
be a big lure. Julian lives in Auckland, so I
think that the factor of being proud of that pacifica
(04:33):
heritage is a big lure. And I think potentially I
haven't spoken to Artie, but he would have sat back
and watched the Hurricanes this year and the boom of
the young loose Ford talent.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That They've got more loose boards on that side than
I want to do with, don't they. It's like back
in the day when Crusades used to collect first five eighths.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
That's right, they used to hold them, that's and yeah,
you go through Peter Luckey, Braden Yosse, Devin Flanders, Brad
Shields du Carrefi. It's such a pethora of talent that
the Hurricanes had, and everyone thought they were going to
miss Ardie severe and they didn't miss a beat. So
I think that that may have been a factor. Maybe
(05:16):
a Artie's looking for new challenges as well. He's in
he's thirty years old, he's been at the Hurricanes for
ten years, He's been to Japan and that was a
really refreshing experience for him. So the chance to come
and help mentor the next generation. You know, if you
take a step back and look at Ardis as a player,
if you're a young Polynesian athlete in New Zealand, you
(05:36):
gravitate towards a guy like that who's emerged from very
humble beginnings to become an absolute global superstar. And the
impact that he could have on that franchise is exponential.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Lem Napier joins us. So what about the quality of
his play moving into the future, because he's still very
much going to be part you'd presume of the next
World Cup campaign for the All Blacks. That detract from
what he brings to the park by playing for a
team like Moana Pussyfak with all due respect, but not
the top of the pops. What four games and the
(06:10):
last season at victory, so they're on their way up.
But what will that do for him, do you think
as a player?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yes, it's an interesting question. Maybe he doesn't. You could
argue he doesn't get the same level of coaching, but
Moana have really strengthened their coaching tim in recent years
with Tana Umunger, but also Tom Coventry, who's a widely
respected Ford's coach. He was at the Chiefs when they
won their two titles and he was with the Blues previously.
(06:36):
Tom and look, I think it will potentially bring out
the best Nadi because he's going to have to be
providing this deal goes through. I'm told it's not fully
done yet, but certainly hitting that way, he's going to
be the marquee guy. He's going to be looked up
to as he is in most teams. He's thirty years old,
so he's still got a lot of years left in him.
(06:59):
He's contracted at this stage to the end of twenty
twenty five of New Zealand Rugby, but as part of
these talks about where he will play as super rugby
there as you know the desire I think from all
parties for him to extend through to the twenty twenty
seven World Cup, whether that includes potential of another Sabbatico
in Japan before or after that. I know that that
(07:20):
Artie really enjoyed his time up there, and we all
know that it's a very lucrative experience for top New
Zealand Araby players. So I think Ardia's top of the
pops is in the in terms of New Zealand Arabi players.
So to a degree, I think he can, you know,
demand top dollar demand flexibility in his contract. But I
think just the lure of playing with his brother, representing
(07:43):
his culture and mentoring Polynesian athletes, you bring together that combination,
I think that's a big factor. Without actually speaking to
him directly, this.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Is sports Fix, You're daily dose of sports news, news
talks V.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The news like a bit of a sledge hammer for
Hurricanes fans around seven o'clock this morning as they were
enjoying their corn flakes, or they were until they read
the news or heard it on ZB that Ardie Savilla
is reportedly close to moving from the Hurricanes to Mowana PACIFICA. Now,
once the initial shock had worn off, and I'm a
Hurricanes fan and I started to think clearly rather than emotionally,
(08:25):
I have to say I actually don't mind it. Of course,
as a Kines fan, I want Ardie to play for
my team, but imagine the good he could do and
probably by all reports will do at Mowana Pacifica. They've
struggled to find Super Rugby relevance and competitiveness in their
short life. Adding a player of Ardie's ability and stature
(08:46):
would immediately improve them. He'd add thousands onto the gate.
He'd be a mentor to young players. Imagine playing alongside
Artie Savilla, and he'll drive the team forward through his
own performances and leadership. Now, if Hurricanes fans, who will
naturally worry about losing the World Player of the Year,
it does pay to remember that the Hurricanes have just
(09:07):
had one of their best seasons in recent memory without them,
as he took that playing sabbatical in Japan. There is
a fairly good cohort of loose forwards at the Hurricanes
now number eight. Brandon Yosseie one of the standouts this
past Super Rugby season. He was being talked about in
All Blacks conversations. He would never have got that chance
if Ardie Savia had been there. Addam Peter Larkey, Brad Shields,
(09:29):
Stu plus Kodife, Devin Flanders and others, and you've got
a fairly decent group of loose forwards at the Hurricanes. Yes,
of course, any team would rather have the World Player
of the Year Artie Savia than not have them. But
this isn't the worst outcome. At least he hasn't gone
(09:49):
to the Blues.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Time to enter the chamber. A lot of chat about
Artie Savier from yourself and Liam Napier. I've given you
my view, so let's move on to actual rugby being
played on the field darc across the weekends, in particular
two thirty five tomorrow afternoon, the All Blacks against Fiji
in San Diego? Is this a banana skin or is
this just a continuation of the All Blacks?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Well, pretty good start under Razer told you this before, Pinty.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Now I insist you must listen to me. A banana
skin match can only be retrospective because if you see
the banana skin, you don't stand on it, right.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's actually a good point you make, Shall I rephrase it?
Is this a dangerous opponent? In fact, this would have
been a better way to start. Is this a dangerous
opponent for Scott Robertson to come up against in just
his third test in charge?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Especially when you're playing in the States and that's not
happiest hunting ground when you're playing on super hard ground,
which I expect that will be against the rapidly improving
Fijian team through Fiji and Drewer, and you've got five
debutans coming off the bench. Yeah, it's kind of a
scary prospect. I talked about this on Sports Talk. We'll
(11:05):
be like, ah, you're being overly paranoid. Don't worry about it.
Robertson and what he's doing. I think he was overly
cautious in the first two matches. I think he's been
overly risky in this one. Tell me I'm wrong. Piney.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, that's such an interesting way of looking at it
because I think we all expected that he would make changes,
and you know, to be honest with your.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Tasks, I thought there'd be more.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I's made eleven changes to the starting fifteen plus and
almost entirely new Brett bench in a very fresh bench
in terms of their test experience or lack thereof. But
I actually thought he might change a couple more. Look,
Fiji are no one's mugs anymore. Let's not forget they
beat England at Twickenham before the World Cup last year.
At the World Cup. They beat Australia, which that's a
(11:45):
low bar at the World Cup last.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Year, but beat them come up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
By You're right, But they also beat Georgia, a team
renowned for their forward power, and that hasn't always been
Fiji's strength. So look, God not saying by any stretch
of the imagination, I expect Fiji to beat the All
Blacks for the first time this afternoon, but I think
they're probably more dangerous than at any other time that
we've played them.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
With Raisa, we've seen or heard people say for years,
anyone could coach that team, but seven years of success, No,
he's built that team. And so what he's doing now,
and I like this is he's going in a new
eraror away from the foster and the handsome regime, and
he's trying to build a new place. So he's putting
a lot of faith in these young guys he's picked,
(12:28):
and I think that is probably a big part of
the way Razor coaches. He goes, you're a good player,
you got what it takes. Now get in there and
see what you've got.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Really enjoyed your chat with Justin Marshall last night on
a number of issues including some of the young bucks,
and one of them was Billy Procter. And there's been
a lot of mail around about Billy Proctor. You and
I've spoken about him on the Sports Fix podcast often,
but interesting to hear Justin Marshall say, backed up by
Gregor Paul and the New Zealand Herald, that they believe
Billy Proctor is a real threat to Riko Yowani in
(12:59):
that thirteen jersey for the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
What say you, well.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I love what Gregor Paul wrote. To be fair, a
fanboy with Gregor and Ronsey writes, I just there's all
we quote from him. He's an accuracy about his passing
and a cleverness about his short kicking game. Pass and
cats looks like his natural game, and his first instinct
to look up and assess what's happening rather than tuck
the ball under his arm and charge. Now that's what
a center does. And we think we saw what Rica
(13:25):
did last time around. Their opportunities missed because he did
exactly that. He tucked and charged as opposed to have
a look at what his options are. So well, if
I'm Rico, I'm a bit freaked out, which is a
good thing to have in this side competition.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So are you freako Yoanni? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And on that dad joke, Let's move on to the
Warriors tonight they take on the Raiders. There's a real
connection between the Raiders in New Zealand. The number of
key we who have played for the Raiders at various
times in their history is quite a large list. But
I don't want to talk about that, or what I'm
want to talk about is whether we use that off
used phrase must win when it comes to this game
(14:04):
for the Warriors tonight.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well, at least we're not using mathematical chick aren'ts yet
So that's a good sign, right and something we haven't
experience with the Wires in the last season or two,
which is great. The Raiders are on a negative tear,
if there's such a thing. They've got like four games
defeated now, so they really need to lift. They are
at home and this is a Warriors team that's just
(14:27):
been absolutely slapped about their head and face with an
injury toll. So stressful is it must win what they
all are really? But it's getting super tight. Pinting, Are
you comfortable in the space or not.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No, not comfortable, not at all. Nineteen points from seventeen games,
three points outside the top eight that doesn't seem like
a lot. Seven points outside the top four that seems
a bridge too far. But you look at the games
coming up right and that they fall into two distinct
categories Raiders, Tigers, Eels, teams that seem to be a
bit down on their luck, and then Dolphins, Sea Eagles, Bulldogs, Sharks.
(15:00):
They occupy the spaces four, five, six, and seven on
the ladder. I guess, happily for the Warriors, if they
can get results against those teams double punch, they get
the points and they deny those teams also with top
eight aspirations, the chance to take the points. Am I
worried though, I'm I'm mildly concerned. I'd want them to
win tonight pretty badly.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I think what we've seen though of the past with
this Warrior's side is when the chips are down, they've
lost a whole lot of players through suspension, injury, whatever else.
The guys moving through that next tier have covered themselves
in glory they night, So there's a huge positive there
for the future of the Warriors. It must win maybe not,
(15:41):
but as I said, at least it's not a mathematical
equation at the.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, we don't have to use that, and I won't
have to use the banana skin phrase either because or
we could use it tomorrow perhaps if the Warriors were
to lose, because I said, well, that was a sort
of a banana skin, because then I would be using hindsight,
wouldn't I?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Or the year go. It's nice to say that you're
picking up and running with these things, but I'm loving
the dad jokes.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
May keep them coming. Alright, Well, no more for today.
It is us in the Chamber.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It returns, of course, as part of the sports Fix
podcast on Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
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Darcy Waldgrave.
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Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, and if you've not had enough, we can always
give you more between seven and eight weeknights at Sportsbook
myself and Piney, and of course on the weekend, I
run Off and Hide and Piney wrestles Sport to the
ground weekend Sport between twelve and three Saturday and Sunday.
I love the fact you've got that dedication where I'm
just going to sit in front of the TV and
(16:57):
yell at sport.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, look, I don't think that's any less dedication than
I supply on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We'll see you next week on the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello and welcome in to a fresh edition of the
Sports Fix podcast. It is Friday, July nineteen, last time
I checked them. We'll be for a few more hours yet.
I'm Jason Pine alongside.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Me Darcy water Grave.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
We don't serve stale goods on this program. Young man,
how do you say a fresh episode? And it's always
going to be fresh?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
They are always fresh and as other views, as are
the opinions, as are the discussion points. One big discussion
point today. I know you want to chat to an
expert about this. I've got some less than expert opinion on.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Artie Savvier going to Mowana PACIFICA.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, a guy has been breaking that story, is known
about it for a while. Liam Napier from New Zealand Herald.
Talk to him about this story, where it goes, where
it started, what happens next. It's a it's a big story.
When I first saw us at the Blues, don't what
I'm surely no, it's not the Blues. It's more on
a pussy feaker. This is pretty cool.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It really is.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah. In fact, even as a Hurricanes fan, I agree
more on that in the moment, and we'll kick some
issues around in the chamber, including tonight's must win. Should
we call it back Warriors against the Raiders.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
In other news.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Let's kick things off as always by looking at some
of the big sports stories today are humbling outing in
clement weather for many of the world's top golfers in
the Open Championship first round at Royal Troon.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Keep we Ryan Fox one of four.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
New Zealanders he covered the two over past seventy three.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
It's an absolute brute and you just got to hit
really good shots and you kind of know the pars
a good score on any hole from practice. And then
you get out obviously today and you know, you know,
it's blowing, it's a little wet. You're just kind of
trying to hang in there and if you're happen to
make a couple of puss tuo a good score, it's great.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Victor by name Victor by actions on stage eighteen of
Cyclings Tour de France Chapinas, Victor caperinats is he gonna
win his first ever Stage of the top Victor. Victor
Combinats conquered the hilly one hundred and seventy nine kilometer
leg after a three man sprint and form All Black
half back Justin Marshall believes Rico Yoanni might be under
(02:18):
pressure for the All Blacks thirteen jersey.
Speaker 6 (02:20):
Which makes me think crystal ball gazing looking into that
fish pawn.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
That they are maybe looking at Billy.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
Proper As as a prospect to start in the Rugby
Championship of center leading of Vex.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Vex. Now my
news talks.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
IVY and it's with open arms. I greet mister Liam
Napier Endzed, Herald Rugby writer to the program. Liam great
story released today around the possibility of Ardie Savia moving
to Auckland. When I first saw that, I thought, what
is going to the Blues? But no, what's the general
just behind the story?
Speaker 6 (02:57):
Hey to as great to be here. Look, this has
been bubbling away for a number of weeks. Ardie Severe
returned from his sixth month sabbatico in Japan and he
had a clause in his contract that allows him to
move from the Hurricanes to another New Zealand Super Rugby team.
So there've been bubblings rumors of the past couple of
weeks about a potential move to the Blues or Miana
(03:18):
Pacifica and my understanding that's come to a head and
he's very close to joining Moana, which would be a
major coup for a franchise that's only been alive for
three years, that doesn't have a home base, that's struggle
for sponsorship, struggle to gain a foothold in the market.
Ardie's brother Julian plays for Moana tana Umanga coached them
(03:41):
and then improve massively this year. But a big story
because Artie Severe is a former Hurricanes captain, a centurion
of the franchise. Didn't play last year for the Hurricanes
because he was in Japan. But a very big development
because this is the reigning World Rugby Player of the Year.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
He's very very good at what he does and he's
arguably just had his prime. So I suppose you've got
to look at a number of storylines out of this. First,
why Auckland and why more on a pussy fiki you'd
think Blues, But what's the draw card up here?
Speaker 6 (04:13):
I think Artie first and foremost is a proud Polynesian man.
His parents are proud, and playing with his brother Julian,
who used to do at the Hurricanes, I think would
be a big lure. Julian lives in Auckland, so I
think that the factor of being proud of that pacifica
(04:33):
heritage is a big lure. And I think potentially I
haven't spoken to Artie, but he would have sat back
and watched the Hurricanes this year and the boom of
the young loose Ford talent.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
That They've got more loose boards on that side than
I want to do with, don't they. It's like back
in the day when Crusades used to collect first five eighths.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
That's right, they used to hold them, that's and yeah,
you go through Peter Luckey, Braden Yosse, Devin Flanders, Brad
Shields du Carrefi. It's such a pethora of talent that
the Hurricanes had, and everyone thought they were going to
miss Ardie severe and they didn't miss a beat. So
I think that that may have been a factor. Maybe
(05:16):
a Artie's looking for new challenges as well. He's in
he's thirty years old, he's been at the Hurricanes for
ten years, He's been to Japan and that was a
really refreshing experience for him. So the chance to come
and help mentor the next generation. You know, if you
take a step back and look at Ardis as a player,
if you're a young Polynesian athlete in New Zealand, you
(05:36):
gravitate towards a guy like that who's emerged from very
humble beginnings to become an absolute global superstar. And the
impact that he could have on that franchise is exponential.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Lem Napier joins us. So what about the quality of
his play moving into the future, because he's still very
much going to be part you'd presume of the next
World Cup campaign for the All Blacks. That detract from
what he brings to the park by playing for a
team like Moana Pussyfak with all due respect, but not
the top of the pops. What four games and the
(06:10):
last season at victory, so they're on their way up.
But what will that do for him, do you think
as a player?
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Yes, it's an interesting question. Maybe he doesn't. You could
argue he doesn't get the same level of coaching, but
Moana have really strengthened their coaching tim in recent years
with Tana Umunger, but also Tom Coventry, who's a widely
respected Ford's coach. He was at the Chiefs when they
won their two titles and he was with the Blues previously.
(06:36):
Tom and look, I think it will potentially bring out
the best Nadi because he's going to have to be
providing this deal goes through. I'm told it's not fully
done yet, but certainly hitting that way, he's going to
be the marquee guy. He's going to be looked up
to as he is in most teams. He's thirty years old,
so he's still got a lot of years left in him.
(06:59):
He's contracted at this stage to the end of twenty
twenty five of New Zealand Rugby, but as part of
these talks about where he will play as super rugby
there as you know the desire I think from all
parties for him to extend through to the twenty twenty
seven World Cup, whether that includes potential of another Sabbatico
in Japan before or after that. I know that that
(07:20):
Artie really enjoyed his time up there, and we all
know that it's a very lucrative experience for top New
Zealand Araby players. So I think Ardia's top of the
pops is in the in terms of New Zealand Arabi players.
So to a degree, I think he can, you know,
demand top dollar demand flexibility in his contract. But I
think just the lure of playing with his brother, representing
(07:43):
his culture and mentoring Polynesian athletes, you bring together that combination,
I think that's a big factor. Without actually speaking to
him directly, this.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Is sports Fix, You're daily dose of sports news, news
talks V.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
The news like a bit of a sledge hammer for
Hurricanes fans around seven o'clock this morning as they were
enjoying their corn flakes, or they were until they read
the news or heard it on ZB that Ardie Savilla
is reportedly close to moving from the Hurricanes to Mowana PACIFICA. Now,
once the initial shock had worn off, and I'm a
Hurricanes fan and I started to think clearly rather than emotionally,
(08:25):
I have to say I actually don't mind it. Of course,
as a Kines fan, I want Ardie to play for
my team, but imagine the good he could do and
probably by all reports will do at Mowana Pacifica. They've
struggled to find Super Rugby relevance and competitiveness in their
short life. Adding a player of Ardie's ability and stature
(08:46):
would immediately improve them. He'd add thousands onto the gate.
He'd be a mentor to young players. Imagine playing alongside
Artie Savilla, and he'll drive the team forward through his
own performances and leadership. Now, if Hurricanes fans, who will
naturally worry about losing the World Player of the Year,
it does pay to remember that the Hurricanes have just
(09:07):
had one of their best seasons in recent memory without them,
as he took that playing sabbatical in Japan. There is
a fairly good cohort of loose forwards at the Hurricanes
now number eight. Brandon Yosseie one of the standouts this
past Super Rugby season. He was being talked about in
All Blacks conversations. He would never have got that chance
if Ardie Savia had been there. Addam Peter Larkey, Brad Shields,
(09:29):
Stu plus Kodife, Devin Flanders and others, and you've got
a fairly decent group of loose forwards at the Hurricanes. Yes,
of course, any team would rather have the World Player
of the Year Artie Savia than not have them. But
this isn't the worst outcome. At least he hasn't gone
(09:49):
to the Blues.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Time to enter the chamber. A lot of chat about
Artie Savier from yourself and Liam Napier. I've given you
my view, so let's move on to actual rugby being
played on the field darc across the weekends, in particular
two thirty five tomorrow afternoon, the All Blacks against Fiji
in San Diego? Is this a banana skin or is
this just a continuation of the All Blacks?
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Well, pretty good start under Razer told you this before, Pinty.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Now I insist you must listen to me. A banana
skin match can only be retrospective because if you see
the banana skin, you don't stand on it, right.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
That's actually a good point you make, Shall I rephrase it?
Is this a dangerous opponent? In fact, this would have
been a better way to start. Is this a dangerous
opponent for Scott Robertson to come up against in just
his third test in charge?
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Especially when you're playing in the States and that's not
happiest hunting ground when you're playing on super hard ground,
which I expect that will be against the rapidly improving
Fijian team through Fiji and Drewer, and you've got five
debutans coming off the bench. Yeah, it's kind of a
scary prospect. I talked about this on Sports Talk. We'll
(11:05):
be like, ah, you're being overly paranoid. Don't worry about it.
Robertson and what he's doing. I think he was overly
cautious in the first two matches. I think he's been
overly risky in this one. Tell me I'm wrong. Piney.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, that's such an interesting way of looking at it
because I think we all expected that he would make changes,
and you know, to be honest with your.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Tasks, I thought there'd be more.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I's made eleven changes to the starting fifteen plus and
almost entirely new Brett bench in a very fresh bench
in terms of their test experience or lack thereof. But
I actually thought he might change a couple more. Look,
Fiji are no one's mugs anymore. Let's not forget they
beat England at Twickenham before the World Cup last year.
At the World Cup. They beat Australia, which that's a
(11:45):
low bar at the World Cup last.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Year, but beat them come up.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
By You're right, But they also beat Georgia, a team
renowned for their forward power, and that hasn't always been
Fiji's strength. So look, God not saying by any stretch
of the imagination, I expect Fiji to beat the All
Blacks for the first time this afternoon, but I think
they're probably more dangerous than at any other time that
we've played them.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
With Raisa, we've seen or heard people say for years,
anyone could coach that team, but seven years of success, No,
he's built that team. And so what he's doing now,
and I like this is he's going in a new
eraror away from the foster and the handsome regime, and
he's trying to build a new place. So he's putting
a lot of faith in these young guys he's picked,
(12:28):
and I think that is probably a big part of
the way Razor coaches. He goes, you're a good player,
you got what it takes. Now get in there and
see what you've got.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Really enjoyed your chat with Justin Marshall last night on
a number of issues including some of the young bucks,
and one of them was Billy Procter. And there's been
a lot of mail around about Billy Proctor. You and
I've spoken about him on the Sports Fix podcast often,
but interesting to hear Justin Marshall say, backed up by
Gregor Paul and the New Zealand Herald, that they believe
Billy Proctor is a real threat to Riko Yowani in
(12:59):
that thirteen jersey for the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
What say you, well.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I love what Gregor Paul wrote. To be fair, a
fanboy with Gregor and Ronsey writes, I just there's all
we quote from him. He's an accuracy about his passing
and a cleverness about his short kicking game. Pass and
cats looks like his natural game, and his first instinct
to look up and assess what's happening rather than tuck
the ball under his arm and charge. Now that's what
a center does. And we think we saw what Rica
(13:25):
did last time around. Their opportunities missed because he did
exactly that. He tucked and charged as opposed to have
a look at what his options are. So well, if
I'm Rico, I'm a bit freaked out, which is a
good thing to have in this side competition.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
So are you freako Yoanni? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
And on that dad joke, Let's move on to the
Warriors tonight they take on the Raiders. There's a real
connection between the Raiders in New Zealand. The number of
key we who have played for the Raiders at various
times in their history is quite a large list. But
I don't want to talk about that, or what I'm
want to talk about is whether we use that off
used phrase must win when it comes to this game
(14:04):
for the Warriors tonight.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Well, at least we're not using mathematical chick aren'ts yet
So that's a good sign, right and something we haven't
experience with the Wires in the last season or two,
which is great. The Raiders are on a negative tear,
if there's such a thing. They've got like four games
defeated now, so they really need to lift. They are
at home and this is a Warriors team that's just
(14:27):
been absolutely slapped about their head and face with an
injury toll. So stressful is it must win what they
all are really? But it's getting super tight. Pinting, Are
you comfortable in the space or not.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No, not comfortable, not at all. Nineteen points from seventeen games,
three points outside the top eight that doesn't seem like
a lot. Seven points outside the top four that seems
a bridge too far. But you look at the games
coming up right and that they fall into two distinct
categories Raiders, Tigers, Eels, teams that seem to be a
bit down on their luck, and then Dolphins, Sea Eagles, Bulldogs, Sharks.
(15:00):
They occupy the spaces four, five, six, and seven on
the ladder. I guess, happily for the Warriors, if they
can get results against those teams double punch, they get
the points and they deny those teams also with top
eight aspirations, the chance to take the points. Am I
worried though, I'm I'm mildly concerned. I'd want them to
win tonight pretty badly.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I think what we've seen though of the past with
this Warrior's side is when the chips are down, they've
lost a whole lot of players through suspension, injury, whatever else.
The guys moving through that next tier have covered themselves
in glory they night, So there's a huge positive there
for the future of the Warriors. It must win maybe not,
(15:41):
but as I said, at least it's not a mathematical
equation at the.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, we don't have to use that, and I won't
have to use the banana skin phrase either because or
we could use it tomorrow perhaps if the Warriors were
to lose, because I said, well, that was a sort
of a banana skin, because then I would be using hindsight,
wouldn't I?
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Or the year go. It's nice to say that you're
picking up and running with these things, but I'm loving
the dad jokes.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
May keep them coming. Alright, Well, no more for today.
It is us in the Chamber.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
It returns, of course, as part of the sports Fix
podcast on Monday.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Jason Paine and
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
And that is ask for another edition of the sports
Fix podcast, another week's worth of editions. The next episode
will drop into your podcast feed around about this time
on Monday afternoon, covering off everything that happens on the weekend.
Make sure you subscribe and that will happen automatically.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Yeah, and if you've not had enough, we can always
give you more between seven and eight weeknights at Sportsbook
myself and Piney, and of course on the weekend, I
run Off and Hide and Piney wrestles Sport to the
ground weekend Sport between twelve and three Saturday and Sunday.
I love the fact you've got that dedication where I'm
just going to sit in front of the TV and
(16:57):
yell at sport.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, look, I don't think that's any less dedication than
I supply on the weekends.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We'll see you next week on the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
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