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June 20, 2024 • 16 mins

On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 20th June 2024, the Blues are preparing for a stiff challenge from down the road rivals the Chiefs. Dalton Papali'i joins the podcast to discuss what they're expecting ahead of the Super Rugby Pacific final.

Also, World Rugby has wound D'Arcy up with yet another change to the officiating protocols, with TMO's being given more power in two upcoming internationals.

Plus, Piney joins D'Arcy to share his thoughts on Andy Murrays faltering body, Tiger Woods gaining a lifetime exemption for the PGA's 8 biggest tournaments, and when are Auckland FC landing their big name signing?

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
This is Sportsfix Howard by News Talk Set Be.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello and welcome into a fresh episode of the Sports
Fix podcast. At a Thursday, June twenty. My name is
Jason Pine.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
I'm Darcy Watergrave. Where have you been for the last
two days? Piney, I've been all by my lonesome. People
are howling for you. No, I don't think that's true.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
If they are, it's very quiet howling.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
But it's good to be back in the cheer with
you today.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Massive game of Super Rugby coming Saturday. We'll drill down
onto that a bit tomorrow. But looking forward to hearing
from I was going to say the Blues captain, but
their captain Patrick Twee a lot to his back, so
I guess he's the vice captain, Dalton Papolle is he.

Speaker 4 (00:52):
I wonder if he's filthy on that. I wonder if
he's like, oh no, you stole my armband for the
bigger fair. We we'll ask him about that when he
appears on the podcast next. Lots to look forward to
for this Bombay battle bigger in Texas. I think you'll
find forty four thousand people.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Wow, incredible. Can't look forward enough to that. We'll also
jump inside the chamber as well, so let's get into it.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
In other news, let's begin, as always by checking out
some of the biggest sports stories going around today.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Out Going black Caps white ball skipper Caine Williamson has
explained why he wants to play in South Africa's Tea
twenty League this summer.

Speaker 5 (01:30):
I like it's a nice opportunity to look at that
it meant turning down a central contracts. However, my priority
still is absolutely playing the New Zealand and I think
I missed maybe a handful of games if any, over
sort of a three week period.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
On the field. At the T twenty Cricket World Cup
into the Super Eights, the co host the USA back
in action.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
He lose by eighteen runs to South Africa. Classy South
Africa finding their moja.

Speaker 6 (01:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
The prote has made one ninety four for four in
their twenty overs and restricted the US to one seventy
six for six and Germany two from two. At the
European Football Championship.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Mittel starts clot tricks at the backbar.

Speaker 4 (02:08):
This is.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Germany two nil victors over Hungary in Stotgart.

Speaker 6 (02:17):
Lead.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
We've gone just the ticket. It's sports Fix.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
It's the biggest game of the year. It's a Super
Rugby Pacific Final. It's at Eden Park, It's in front
of a packed house. It's between two hardcore rivals, the
Chiefs from down the Road and the Blues from Auckland City.
Dalton Papali joins the program. Now excited much, Dalton. This
is what it's all about, isn't it. This is why
you play.

Speaker 6 (02:44):
Oh, I'm fitting the hate to be honest. At the
start of the year, you know, Vern coming in he said,
you know, this whole year is based around given to
the final and then and then the season will be,
you know, the season will be That'll be it, you know.
So it comes on pretty quick and we've achieved that.
We've gone to the final. Now that's got one. We've
got one more game to get right and then we're

(03:05):
gonna be happy with it. But you know, the boys
the road, the Chiefs are looking pretty they're looking pretty
dangerous at the moment, and you saw their last game.
They can put them the big shift.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
So looking forward to a big, one huge shift.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
They got up and they basically punched the Hurricanes in
the nose a couple of times, and the Hurricanes never survived.
So your start's going to be crucial, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (03:26):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I feel like in the
Brumbys game, we started really well, but we sort of
fall off in the second half of it. They're getting
playing a bit of frantic footy and just throwing at
some stupid passes and stuff like that. So I think
we just need to be a bit better there. But
the Chiefs they started really well against I think more
of a quality side the Canes, and it goes to show,

(03:47):
you know, where we gets their tails up early and
it's pretty then a pretty good position to win the game.
So the first ten minutes is going to be it's
going to be it's going to be full on.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, what changes in the build up now you know
you're at the Big Dance. And that's just from a
team perspective through Verne Carter and also personally because I
know that you've lost the final. Didn't like it very much,
got wiped for the All Blacks last year, didn't like
that very much. Has that altered the way you build
up to a game like the Stulton Ah.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
To be honest, we talked about it, and I know
the players that the Blues have talked about it, and
we ask for nothing changes. I've been in teams where
you know previously and we've gone made at the finals
and we've tried to change the week and it's a
bit more serious, which is always got to be serious
in that. But you've got to enjoy the last week.
You've got to enjoy, as you know, being with this
team because it was the last time this team's got

(04:41):
going to be assembled and we're in the finals, and
you know, we've got a few things to play for,
like Kira leaving. It has been a big part of
the squad and so we know that nothing changes for us,
but it's just the emotion is going to don't let
the emotion to get to us and just play.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
The occasion when you turned up to training on Monday
and Patrick two Ploto was there, did you start thinking, Oh,
he's going to play, he's going to recover from his
knee injury. And then when they said yeah, he's in,
what was your.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Reaction like, Oh, I got to admit, man, everyone was happy,
like he's a a certain leader where you know when
he's in the environment, everyone notices it, and you know,
for him to get named in the team and the
word got around on Monday, you know, before the team
was announced. It just lifts everyone's morale, I think, and

(05:31):
a boosts everyone's you know energy, just seeing the big
man back and he's a quality player and what a
leader he is as well. So seeing him back in
the team, I got everyone who put everyone our smile
on everyone's face when we found out he was playing forty.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
Four thousand People's not overwhelming to is it? Mate? You
got this? You don't worry about the size of the crowd,
do you.

Speaker 6 (05:51):
You don't really worry about him, But sometimes when things
aren't going your way, you can hear them. I love
the occasion, love the love how it's a bit what's
sold out pretty quick and I'm just looking forward to it.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
And finally, Dalton Papala and thank you so much for
joining the show. Two parts here are you a bit filthy?
You've lost the cat? And see and what do you
think's changed in Super Rugby this year that's attracted the crowds?
What is there any main thrust on why people are
actually turning up to watch these games now because it's
been on the improve, hasn't it.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Yeah, it has and not filthy losing the captaincy Man.
That's Patty's one of my one of my close mates,
and I'd follow their manager anywhere. So as like I said,
my sole focus is winning, winning a chip with the
Blues and well all the crowds coming. I think it's
probably because the Crusaders are in the finals, so that's
probably That's probably another little factor in all honesty, I

(06:47):
think I think the whole Super Rugby comp they're playing
exciting footy. You know, there's no real team that has
drawn away from the comp. You know, they're one dominant team.
But you know, like we've we've had the Blues this year.
We've had some close games against the Melbourne Rebels and
Quarata we just got off you know, we just we
just won and we could have gone either and then

(07:08):
we've lost you know, two games. So a lot of
games have been close and it's been a lot of
great forty So I think that's probably been a reason why.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah, that's it, Bill, It may will come put on
a good show and people want to turn up and
be part of a forty thousand plus on Saturday night.
We're looking forward to it. Dalton Publicly A real pleasure
for all of your time you spent with us here
on News Talks EB this year. Thank you very much
for all of that.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
No, no worries, Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
This is Sportsfix, you're daily does of Sports News, cower
By News TALKSB.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
So let's just run it through the complicator World Rugby
have got another brilliant idea. Yeah, excuse the sound of
cynicism in my voice, but a brilliant idea. It looks
like there's going to be a change in protocol when
it comes to the TMO. It's going to be utilized
over the weekend. What is the change, I'll tell you

(08:04):
what the change is. Wales in South Africa, Fiji in
the Barbelle are going to see a game where the
TMO is handed greater influence, the ability to tell referees
about knock ons and forward passes in real time. Why
why are they adding more mess, more chaos, more stains

(08:27):
to an already broken game when it comes to the officials.
We saw what happened in the World Cup where Wayne
Barnes got rolled over by a TMO who's bigger than
his own boots, and of course Wayne Barnes forgetting completely
the laws about how far you can go back when
it comes to decisions from the TMO. So instead of
worrying about that minor law that people completely forgot, what

(08:50):
are they doing now, ah, TMO just rolling in and
open your mouth whenever you want. We've learnt one thing
about the use of tmos. It's depressing. It slows the
game down. More often than not, the right decision is
not come to. They are a blight on the game.
Yet here we are in World Rugby saying, you know what,

(09:12):
We're going to give the TMO greater influence throughout the
length of the game. What you want to make the
game even longer? You want to have even more stoppages
in the game. You want to give some guy in
a booth more power than he deserves to throw his
ego across the airwaves at the other ref Nobody wants that,

(09:33):
So I sincerely hope this weekend between the Fiji and
the Barbarians and Wales and South Africa, this trialed protocol
is an absolute disaster and saying that if it is,
I'll probably still run with it anyway, because it's world
rugby that is the complicator.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Time to jump inside the Chamber and kick around. Some
of the big sports stories or issues of today are
mainly overseas in the Chamber today, Starting with Andy Murray.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
What'sing?

Speaker 3 (10:06):
How thirty seven years old has been to retire? During
his latest match at the Queen's Club Championship in London,
Andy Murray has said he would love to retire from
top level tennis, either at Wimbledon this year or at
the Olympics. What chance do you give Andy Murray of
even making it to one of those two tournaments?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
Does maybe twenty percent? I know he want to go
to Wimbledon, and this is a place that all tennis
players in Britain cherifs that's where they want to be
in all of their whites on the green. It's a
wonderful tournament. But he's prone to falling apart Paris. Maybe
he gets there and collapses on the clay. It is
and I don't know how many times you've talked about this,

(10:45):
Piney really the end of an era, but it's taken
such a long time to get to the end of
this era, and there are a few of them still
hanging around rathers going I'm not dead yet, I'm okay,
I'm still I'm still relevant.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Well, you look at Andy Murray and you talk about relevance.
He hasn't made it past the third round of a
major since the quarterfinals of Wimbledon in twenty six It's
a long time since he advanced deep, deep into a tournament.
This is a guy, of course, who made eleven Grand
Slam finals, one Wimbledon a couple of times, has won
two Olympic gold medals, a storied career, and you can

(11:21):
understand why you want to go out on top, I guess,
or not on top of it, but on your own terms.
And I think we'd all love to see Andy Murray
play another match at Wimbledon. It might be, though, Dars,
that he exits in the first round and that is
it at Wimbledon, if indeed he makes it that far.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
All that said, but to exit even there in the
first round, and to basically doff his cap, to waiver
his racket and his adoring fans would be lovely. And yeah,
going out on your own terms. But I'm sure he'd
rather have finished at the top of his game. But
you know, some people just can't let go, can they. Pine?
Are you still playing grade football?

Speaker 6 (11:56):
Aren't you?

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Well?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well, playing is a very broad term, Darsa. I'm going on,
I'm going across the white line on occasion. What happens
on the grass is probably left a better left off
to one side. Hey, speaking of wanting to carry on
Tiger Woods a lifetime exemption to compete in what has
been termed the PGA to is eight signature golf events,
they've basically announced that in honor or, in recognition of

(12:20):
his incredible record, he can basically play the big tournaments
for as long as he likes, for life.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
What do you make of this? Well, I think, first
and foremost, you're in eighty two tour titles, fifteen majors.
You can do whatever you want. And I like the
way they afford him this privilege, basically saying you are
one of the goats and we really pleased to have
you on board. But the more sinister side of this
is fairly simple box office gold. We need Tiger here,

(12:48):
whether he's good enough to play or not, because people
turn up on the fairways to cheer him. People like
to watch the TV as them playing, So even if
he's rubbish, as long as he's there, So let's just
give him some exemptions and that'll cover us.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Isn't it incredible the effect he's had. I can't remember
who it was, it was probably quite a few of
the professionals have said we owe the explosion in the
sports popularity over the last twenty five years to Tiger Woods.
Tiger Woods has lifted us all in terms of the
revenue driven into the game of golf, the eyeballs on it.
He has been a generational game changer for the game

(13:23):
of golf, hasn't he?

Speaker 4 (13:24):
Yeah, absolutely he has. And also let's not forget the
fact that he is a player of color, and that
is enormously important for what was a pretty stayed, middle
aged white game. Here's a guy who turned up of color,
blew the world apart in golf and just changed the
emphasis on what it means to be a golfer and

(13:45):
attracted so many people into the sport. And I don't
think you can underestimate what he did in that space.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
Ether Pony, Yeah, and just on the Woods family, Charlie Woods,
fifteen year old son of Tiger, has posted the leading
score am unqualifiers for the US Junior Amateur next month
in Michigan. He carted at one under past seventy one,
one of four players to earn their qualifying spot. Tiger
was fourteen when he was qualified for the US Junior

(14:11):
So he's beaten his son by your year. What chance
we're watching Charlie Woods down the fairways of Augusta and
the like in the years ahead?

Speaker 4 (14:18):
Does yeah? And what chance that Tiger Woods is on
his bag? Wouldn't you like to see that ahead? Although
with the injuries he's had, I don't even think he
could drag a bag around eighteen holes?

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Could he?

Speaker 3 (14:29):
You might be right, You might be right. But what
a guy to have given you a little bit of advice,
so you will keep an eye on Tiger Woods and
Charlie Woods. I find a piece of piece of news
around today we want to chat about. Auckland FC have
signed six more players. They're all young. Kiwis twelve on
their roster now. Are still to make the splash stars,
to really bring in those who you know who live
outside the football ecosystem. But twelve kiwis to your roster

(14:52):
with pre season still about a month or soway not
too bad.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
You're building from the bottom up. I think it's really
important to have a very strong pyramid base before they
start looking at the rock stars. I don't know about yourself, Piney,
but I think in order to establish a foothold here
in AUKLM which has not been done before the A
League sides. We know how I'm talking about. People have
got to feel connected to the club. They've got to

(15:15):
have skin in the game with local players that they appreciate.
And yeah, you find the rockstar at the top of
the end of it. But I think the success of
this club is going to be very much like most
clubs in world sport. They represent where they come from.
You cannot underestimate the import of that. Yep, that is
such a good point.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
So twelve Kiwi players signed, you can have as many
as twenty three. It's the imports we're looking forward to seeing.
But as you say, das a good solid New Zealand
based Auckland FC building. That is us for the chamber today.

Speaker 4 (15:47):
Have you got your jumper yet, Piney?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
My Auckland FC jumper, I have not received it in
the post. I have not subscribed to the Auckland FC
channel of retail yet, but it wouldn't beyond the realms
of possibility. One might turn up if you got yours.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Well, no, I'm still waiting for my Blues jumper and
it's been twenty three years and they're never going to
see me one of those Aukland DEFC. Hey look, I
might have a chance, but you know, if I do,
I'll auction it off and I'll send the money to
a worthy charity.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Great stuff. That is the chamber for today, dissecting the
sporting agenda.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
It's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and Darcy Walter Grave and.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
That wraps another Sports Fix podcast. We're back with a
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Speaker 4 (16:35):
To bring it to you again tomorrow. Then, of course
over the weekend to break for myself, but not so
much for Piney between twelve and three Saturday Sunday's got
Weekend Sport and of course every weeknight on News Talk's
here between seven and eight it's Sports Talk Piney.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
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Speaker 1 (16:53):
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