October 23, 2024 • 18 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for Thursday 14 October 2024 - Yvonne Willering talks about the incredible turn around of Dame Noeline Taurua's team, and their new-found confidence against Australia.
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on why International League is alive and well.
Plus, the lads join the panel to discuss whether or not the Black Caps can back up their first test performance?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello there, and welcome into a fresh episode of the
Sports Fixed podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm Jason Pine, my name is Darcy Waltergrove.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And we are here for the twenty fourth of October
twenty twenty four. It says on my calendar, got a
few things to kick around today in the chamber when
Darcy and I lean on a couple of leaners and
they're including the netball. Now are we going to get
some deeper analysis of the netball on the pod today?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Evonne Willering is about deep as you can get when
it comes to looking at netball. And she's blunt, abrupt,
calls a spade of spade.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's wonderful to talk to.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
In fact, she may be the only person I know
an air it talks faster than I do, but she
makes a lot more sense. So yeah, looking at what
may or may not happen, Come Perth and come Melbourne.
Of course, the new way of deciding these Tide series.
We'll dig into that with Evon Shorty.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Looking forward to that well, without any further ado, let's
get into it. In other news, Let's get started by
checking out the big sports stories around today. New Zealand
netball coach Dame Noline Todoua has commended her side's gain
control during their sixty three point fifty two win over
Australia in the second Constellation Cup Test in Auckland last night.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
One of the things we've been working on is our
ability to dictate and control the momentum and I feel
that we're doing that fantastic actually, so you know in
the past sometimes we cough up ball or we go down.
You know, we're up by four, next minute we're down.
We're fighting away.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Former Rugby Australia boss Hamish mcclennan urging the governing body
to entice League playmaker Nathan Cleary across codes.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
He's won four Premierships with Tenrith. A fifth would be nice,
but the lure of a home World Cup in Australia
and potentially playing lines, I don't know if he's available.
My sense is that if you could take that off
in your career, if that's pretty special.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And the black Caps unfazed by the possibility of a
spin friendly pitch when this afternoon second Test against India
starts in Poune Hes first Test Man of the match
right and Ravender.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
We can't control what they're going to roll out, but
we can sort of control our attitude and the way
we approach it and our commitment to each and every
position we get into it with the bad or you know,
the with the ball and stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Beating a vex.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 8 (02:33):
It's sports vex.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
We're doing now on the programmer by Yvonne Willering, as
we take a look at the astonishing results of the
Silver Ferns. Good days, he Yvonne, Yes.
Speaker 8 (02:48):
A bit of a surprise for some, I'd say, especially
you know after the first Test, whether they could reproduce
the effort, and they certainly did.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
They did, and it was not just a victory.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
These were two well I don't say thrashings, but this
is pretty much as close as you get an international netball,
isn't it. You just don't see scores like this at
the level, do you nah?
Speaker 8 (03:10):
And it was interesting because the Ferns actually did have
to step up just for crebibility more than anything else,
because people said, yeah, well the Diamonds and myself included.
The Diamonds did not play well in that first Test
and the Ferns really took it to them. And what's interesting,
the Ferns actually at the moment are playing like Australia
normally plays. And I think a lot of work has
(03:33):
been done in the Ferns camp off the court, and
I think that's been the whole, the biggest change. It's
their whole demeanor when they actually take the court, which
is fine, you know, like you can have your shoulders
back and strutting your stuff and having that confidence so
long as there's a win at the end of it.
And at the moment it's certainly going the Ferns way.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
No. I think it was Maddy Gordon who said they're
really changing their outlook on the game when it comes
to playing the Aussies at their own game, playing with
that extra physicality and those shoulders and those elbows and
you give it to us, We're going to give.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It straight back to you. That appears to be working.
Is that the way to go? Though?
Speaker 7 (04:10):
No?
Speaker 8 (04:11):
Yeah, I know, and I look at that and I'm going, oh,
and that's as a hard one, you know, because I
think that there are times when certainly New Zealanders and
that's not just a net bull, it's in sports generally,
and we tend to be soft, you know, and we
pulled back whereas you know that any Australian team or
they are going in for the win. Now the importance
(04:31):
is it the performance or is it the win? And
at the moment it is the win, you know. And
again that's the credibility factor, especially after the tiny Jamison
Trophy which we lost obviously through England, and that hurt
that really would have hurt the first they didn't play
well and that was a trophy that they took a
lot of pride in. So they had to come out
(04:51):
in this game looking sharp and it was very much
about the win. And it's interesting because Echinasia was talking about,
you know, some of the players had to do their
dirty work, they had to be the fighters. And yet
when Dame nol and Tarrua came onto to be interviewed,
she actually did mention it again, yes, but within the
(05:12):
skills of the game. And I looked at that and
if you have a look at it, and Berger and
Jackson have been rarely and I pumped up in the fact,
how good they were against the diamond Tackers and they
were absolutely they got into the heads of them, they
stopped shooting. But having said that, they also had a
huge penalty count against them, and that is something I'd
(05:35):
like to see reduced.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Former national team coach Silver Ferns from silver fern itself,
Evonne Willering joining us.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That that abrupt change in what the players bring to
the court.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That can't be an easy thing to do from a
coaching perspective when you've coached the same way for so
long to expect such a turnaround.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
This is quite the trick from Dame Noleane.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Yeah, and she's also got some brownie eckle. You know,
she's a specialist coach that's coming from Australia, and I
think she has also had an influence in this whole thing,
because I don't forget she knows exactly where the diamonds
are about, both on the court and off the court,
and I guess she is also helping to instill that.
So I think now it's a situation of actually finding
(06:22):
a fine line in that. So you know, the focus
absolutely has to be on performance. I mean, you put
the performance in the results will speak for themselves. So yeah,
I think they can take great heart from what they've done.
I think they've done some wonderful things. But having said that,
it was interesting. I said at the beginning, you know,
Bruce and Weston coming back into the Australian Diamonds was
(06:46):
going to add more value to them. They were not
there during the end when England was over in Australia,
but they were back. But they actually both found wanting
and were both taken off at different times because they've
come back from injuries and they just did not have
the impact that they normally did have. And I guess
because they were coming off the injuries, they just not
(07:06):
match fits. So I'm expecting to see an Australian team again,
a wounded Australian team, you know, come back strong on
Australian soil. And it's really interesting. I don't know if
you know. But if it's now with New Zealand going
over to OZ, if it stayed with the old rules,
even if the Australian Diamonds managed to get two wins
(07:29):
against the Ferns, the Ferns still would have won the trophy,
the Consolation Cup on gold differential. But now if it
does come to two. All then it's a situation where
they start again and they have two seven minute quarters
to determine who the winner is. But the Ferns and
I'm really pleased they look at it this way. They're saying, well,
(07:49):
that's not going to happen. We're going over there and
we want to really nail this game in Perth the
third test and sort of then it's not a situation
out oh you know, if it's a draw or anything else.
So they're certainly going in with a wonderful attitude in
the game. And the Diamonds are in a situation, especially
the co who is she going to put on the
(08:10):
court to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Awesome stuff, Yvonne. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Thank so much for your time, for your insight, and
of course for your rampant enthusiasm. And after what we're
seeing the last two tests, I understand why.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yeah, oh look I'm looking at the next game. It
was really funny. I was so looking forward to the
second test. I'm going, yeah, kick that one off, and
now I'm going, okay, but now really the challenge is
right there. Now we will see exactly where the Ferns sit.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
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Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think it's fair to say that international league always
seems like an afterthought on the back end of what
always is a magnificent NRL season. Of course, you throw
the chaos of the state of origin in and you
get a rough idea about where international league stands this
time around. Though, even though maybe the momentum isn't behind,
(09:07):
we know how big this is going to be when
you look at the sold out stadium in christ Church.
The fine folk off not only or today christ Church,
but the entire South Hearl and ty Pinamu are turning
up on mass because they love the game of rugby league.
I think it's well worth pointing out that another New
(09:29):
Zealand based team should be.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
In christ Church.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
In fact, there are a couple of conglomerates looking at
pulling a team together. As you well know, a second
team in the NRL for New Zealand extremely important as
long as it gets put into South Island where there
is genuine passion for the game, and we've seen that
the amount of people they are going to turn up
(09:53):
to this fixture. Criticism around international rugby league at the
end of the year is that the players are all spent.
They've left everything out there on the park throughout the long, arduous,
aggressive and quite frankly injury prone season and they haven't
got a great deal left. But I think all of
that pales into insignificance when the Kiwi take on the Australians.
(10:18):
Remember last time these two teams were met. Yes, the
Australians look burnt, but there's no way they should have
crumbled the way they did. They were absolutely hammered by
the Kiwi. Vengeance will be on their mind. They will
be upset, they will be angry more than anything, and
they'll want to put an end to the thoughts of
(10:39):
a Kiwi resurgence. They're going to play it like they
mean it. They're going to try and run straight through,
straight over or straight around the Kiwi coming up on
Sunday evening. But I'd suggest that with the crowd behind
and the packed house and the passion from Tuainamu, they're
going to have a hard time doing this. International League
(10:59):
may play second fiddle from time to time when it
comes to Australian New Zealand fixtures, it really is the
game to watch.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Let's us both pop inside the chamber, Lean and Alena
and kick around some sporting topics. Really interesting views from
Yvonne Willering on the Constellation Cup. Do you feel like
we're favorites? I feel like we're favorites.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't primarily because what the Australians normally do after
we've whipped them, because we beat them home, what is
it eight consecutive times? Now turn out to Australia. What
normally happens They let loose and open up a can
of whop ass on us. So let's not get too
carried away because that is a hurting diamond side and
they'll be at home in Perth going, hey, that was embarrassing,
(11:49):
so they'll be a definitely there'll be some sting in
their tail for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So I don't know about favoritism.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Love the way they're playing, love the speed they're playing it,
Love the aggression they're loving. The accuracy from Weka Karen
Burger is fantastic. But the Australians don't like being touched
up by this, do they me?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Then here's the here's the question. Then what is more
powerful A wounded Australia or a New Zealand with momentum.
That is really what it comes down to here. As
we know the if it's a drawer, we go into
an extra time period at the end of the fourth
Test where it's nil. All couple of seven minute halves
if you can call them that, and it's almost like
(12:30):
a mini game as a decider. But I actually back
our team to win one of these two Test matches
in Australia, which they haven't done for a while. But
I feel like momentum is a thing here does.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
The beauty of momentum.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Of course, as you well know, Jason Pine, is that
momentum can be stopped. Momentum is not one of those
things it carries on infinity and beyond.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It can be slowed up.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And I'd back someone like the Australian Diamonds to actually
do that. And as for that fourth game, should it
end up going even Stevens and we go to that
two times seven minute decider, I'll.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Be really interested, say the.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Australians win the game in Perth going to Melbourne, what
the makeup of the side is like, what the substitutes
are like, how the bench is used. Because there's a
really good chance both things will be absolutely gassed in
the last seven minutes, in the last fourteen minutes. So
how that has juggled and how that has operated during
that last mate.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So that's intriguing to me.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Jack absolute and me. And look, it'll come down to
what sort of I reckon it's three quarter time in
game four that these decisions start to be made of
New zealanderre behind by I say more than five or six,
then I think Dan Nolin give gives a few of
her players a rest in the fourth quarter, knowing that
they're going to this extra time period. I think if
they're within striking distance five or under or even ahead,
(13:51):
I think you try and win the thing three to one.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, it's like when you have what you and your
favorite sport, parking the bus in front of the goal.
You just asking for trouble if you do that, right,
So don't go for the win. Aggression, my friend, aggression.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Okay, momentum, let's continue this theme into ten Test cricket.
New Zealand have its. When they walk out in Pune
in a couple of hours or depending on when you're
listening to this, they might already have done that. For
the second test against a wounded India. It's a very
similar thing, isn't it. A wounded India are black Caps
with momentum? What do you predict?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
History says that India really lose it and do everything
they possibly can to not lose. And we've I've already
heard from Russian Avenger and a couple of the Black
Caps around the nature of the deck.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And you'll recall when.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
England won that first game when they're on a tour
of India. It was a five Test tour and the
Indians didn't take that well at all.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
After the first one.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They preped the pictures as only they know best and
proceeded to absolutely wallop the English. So we should have fear, right, well,
fear I think we should be.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I think we should be cautious at what they will
throw back at us. Absolutely. Look, and in a three
Test series, there's no room for era here, right they
you know New Zealand know if they win the second Test,
they win the series, which they've never done in India.
We've never won a Test series in India. So look,
this is a huge history making moment. But I get you,
does India losing a Test series at home? It doesn't happen,
(15:25):
does not compute for them. So yeah, they'll be doing
everything they can on what is, by the sounds of it,
a spin friendly pitch in Poune. Now did you see,
just while we're on the subject of cricket, did you
see some Babwes score against Gambia.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It would be hard to miss it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What what is this? Three hundred and forty four for four.
That's a good score in fifty over cricket. This was
a good score in Test cricket.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Mate for the first inning? Is he kidding there? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
What's happened here? Obviously there's a massive mismatch. But I
think you did the number crunching on or the fact
finding on what competition this is actually in?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, this might put it into some context.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
This is the ICC Men's Tea World Cup sub Regional
Africa Qualifier Group B.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So you know, oh wow, so we're.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Really getting down the down the rankings a bit. But
clearly what a mismatch Zimbabwe. I mean, well they are
a test nation there are you know? There there are
a bona fide cricket country. Gambia clearly not. Did just
see the poor Seema Musa Jorbiter four overs none for
ninety three.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Ah and their response bundled out for fifty four. There's
a bit of work to be done in Gambia. That
the records they just keep getting broken. I mean you
look at at Bow's yes smoking all those runs that
was a that was a record as well. So it's
it's like the longer this game's on, the game goes on,
(16:57):
the more the records are broken. I don't know what
we can put that down to the spread of talent,
the lack thereof, or the uneven matches, the nature of
the decks, the thickness of the bat I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But it just gets better and better, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
All of those things I reckoned us. And to tell
you what, who'd be a bowler? Who would be a
bowler these days? In T twenty cricket you are on
a hiding to nothing that is us in the chamber before.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And yeah you are.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
But I'll give you a reason. I was not a
good bowler, I'll tear that right now, But I was
a terrible batsman. One thing I note about bowling. If
you get smashed for six, at least to get another go.
If you're a Batsman. You get rolled, that's it, You're out.
So I like that fat You've constantly got another opportunity
to actually do good, even though you might be basically
urinating into the wind, which was.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
In my case. I'm glad I don't play T twenty cricket.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Well, I'd be interested in the views of Musa jaw
Bita after his figures of heaven to go home and
explained to his family he bold four overs and got
none for ninety three. Anyway, that is us in the
chamber for.
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Hello there, and welcome into a fresh episode of the
Sports Fixed podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I'm Jason Pine, my name is Darcy Waltergrove.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
And we are here for the twenty fourth of October
twenty twenty four. It says on my calendar, got a
few things to kick around today in the chamber when
Darcy and I lean on a couple of leaners and
they're including the netball. Now are we going to get
some deeper analysis of the netball on the pod today?
Speaker 4 (00:44):
Evonne Willering is about deep as you can get when
it comes to looking at netball. And she's blunt, abrupt,
calls a spade of spade.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
It's wonderful to talk to.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
In fact, she may be the only person I know
an air it talks faster than I do, but she
makes a lot more sense. So yeah, looking at what
may or may not happen, Come Perth and come Melbourne.
Of course, the new way of deciding these Tide series.
We'll dig into that with Evon Shorty.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Looking forward to that well, without any further ado, let's
get into it. In other news, Let's get started by
checking out the big sports stories around today. New Zealand
netball coach Dame Noline Todoua has commended her side's gain
control during their sixty three point fifty two win over
Australia in the second Constellation Cup Test in Auckland last night.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
One of the things we've been working on is our
ability to dictate and control the momentum and I feel
that we're doing that fantastic actually, so you know in
the past sometimes we cough up ball or we go down.
You know, we're up by four, next minute we're down.
We're fighting away.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Former Rugby Australia boss Hamish mcclennan urging the governing body
to entice League playmaker Nathan Cleary across codes.
Speaker 6 (01:55):
He's won four Premierships with Tenrith. A fifth would be nice,
but the lure of a home World Cup in Australia
and potentially playing lines, I don't know if he's available.
My sense is that if you could take that off
in your career, if that's pretty special.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
And the black Caps unfazed by the possibility of a
spin friendly pitch when this afternoon second Test against India
starts in Poune Hes first Test Man of the match
right and Ravender.
Speaker 7 (02:19):
We can't control what they're going to roll out, but
we can sort of control our attitude and the way
we approach it and our commitment to each and every
position we get into it with the bad or you know,
the with the ball and stuff like that.
Speaker 8 (02:30):
Beating a vex.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 8 (02:33):
It's sports vex.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
We're doing now on the programmer by Yvonne Willering, as
we take a look at the astonishing results of the
Silver Ferns. Good days, he Yvonne, Yes.
Speaker 8 (02:48):
A bit of a surprise for some, I'd say, especially
you know after the first Test, whether they could reproduce
the effort, and they certainly did.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
They did, and it was not just a victory.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
These were two well I don't say thrashings, but this
is pretty much as close as you get an international netball,
isn't it. You just don't see scores like this at
the level, do you nah?
Speaker 8 (03:10):
And it was interesting because the Ferns actually did have
to step up just for crebibility more than anything else,
because people said, yeah, well the Diamonds and myself included.
The Diamonds did not play well in that first Test
and the Ferns really took it to them. And what's interesting,
the Ferns actually at the moment are playing like Australia
normally plays. And I think a lot of work has
(03:33):
been done in the Ferns camp off the court, and
I think that's been the whole, the biggest change. It's
their whole demeanor when they actually take the court, which
is fine, you know, like you can have your shoulders
back and strutting your stuff and having that confidence so
long as there's a win at the end of it.
And at the moment it's certainly going the Ferns way.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
No. I think it was Maddy Gordon who said they're
really changing their outlook on the game when it comes
to playing the Aussies at their own game, playing with
that extra physicality and those shoulders and those elbows and
you give it to us, We're going to give.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It straight back to you. That appears to be working.
Is that the way to go? Though?
Speaker 7 (04:10):
No?
Speaker 8 (04:11):
Yeah, I know, and I look at that and I'm going, oh,
and that's as a hard one, you know, because I
think that there are times when certainly New Zealanders and
that's not just a net bull, it's in sports generally,
and we tend to be soft, you know, and we
pulled back whereas you know that any Australian team or
they are going in for the win. Now the importance
(04:31):
is it the performance or is it the win? And
at the moment it is the win, you know. And
again that's the credibility factor, especially after the tiny Jamison
Trophy which we lost obviously through England, and that hurt
that really would have hurt the first they didn't play
well and that was a trophy that they took a
lot of pride in. So they had to come out
(04:51):
in this game looking sharp and it was very much
about the win. And it's interesting because Echinasia was talking about,
you know, some of the players had to do their
dirty work, they had to be the fighters. And yet
when Dame nol and Tarrua came onto to be interviewed,
she actually did mention it again, yes, but within the
(05:12):
skills of the game. And I looked at that and
if you have a look at it, and Berger and
Jackson have been rarely and I pumped up in the fact,
how good they were against the diamond Tackers and they
were absolutely they got into the heads of them, they
stopped shooting. But having said that, they also had a
huge penalty count against them, and that is something I'd
(05:35):
like to see reduced.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Former national team coach Silver Ferns from silver fern itself,
Evonne Willering joining us.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
That that abrupt change in what the players bring to
the court.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
That can't be an easy thing to do from a
coaching perspective when you've coached the same way for so
long to expect such a turnaround.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
This is quite the trick from Dame Noleane.
Speaker 8 (06:00):
Yeah, and she's also got some brownie eckle. You know,
she's a specialist coach that's coming from Australia, and I
think she has also had an influence in this whole thing,
because I don't forget she knows exactly where the diamonds
are about, both on the court and off the court,
and I guess she is also helping to instill that.
So I think now it's a situation of actually finding
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a fine line in that. So you know, the focus
absolutely has to be on performance. I mean, you put
the performance in the results will speak for themselves. So yeah,
I think they can take great heart from what they've done.
I think they've done some wonderful things. But having said that,
it was interesting. I said at the beginning, you know,
Bruce and Weston coming back into the Australian Diamonds was
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going to add more value to them. They were not
there during the end when England was over in Australia,
but they were back. But they actually both found wanting
and were both taken off at different times because they've
come back from injuries and they just did not have
the impact that they normally did have. And I guess
because they were coming off the injuries, they just not
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match fits. So I'm expecting to see an Australian team again,
a wounded Australian team, you know, come back strong on
Australian soil. And it's really interesting. I don't know if
you know. But if it's now with New Zealand going
over to OZ, if it stayed with the old rules,
even if the Australian Diamonds managed to get two wins
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against the Ferns, the Ferns still would have won the trophy,
the Consolation Cup on gold differential. But now if it
does come to two. All then it's a situation where
they start again and they have two seven minute quarters
to determine who the winner is. But the Ferns and
I'm really pleased they look at it this way. They're saying, well,
(07:49):
that's not going to happen. We're going over there and
we want to really nail this game in Perth the
third test and sort of then it's not a situation
out oh you know, if it's a draw or anything else.
So they're certainly going in with a wonderful attitude in
the game. And the Diamonds are in a situation, especially
the co who is she going to put on the
(08:10):
court to make a difference.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Awesome stuff, Yvonne. Always a pleasure.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
Thank so much for your time, for your insight, and
of course for your rampant enthusiasm. And after what we're
seeing the last two tests, I understand why.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yeah, oh look I'm looking at the next game. It
was really funny. I was so looking forward to the
second test. I'm going, yeah, kick that one off, and
now I'm going, okay, but now really the challenge is
right there. Now we will see exactly where the Ferns sit.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
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Speaker 4 (08:45):
I think it's fair to say that international league always
seems like an afterthought on the back end of what
always is a magnificent NRL season. Of course, you throw
the chaos of the state of origin in and you
get a rough idea about where international league stands this
time around. Though, even though maybe the momentum isn't behind,
(09:07):
we know how big this is going to be when
you look at the sold out stadium in christ Church.
The fine folk off not only or today christ Church,
but the entire South Hearl and ty Pinamu are turning
up on mass because they love the game of rugby league.
I think it's well worth pointing out that another New
(09:29):
Zealand based team should be.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
In christ Church.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
In fact, there are a couple of conglomerates looking at
pulling a team together. As you well know, a second
team in the NRL for New Zealand extremely important as
long as it gets put into South Island where there
is genuine passion for the game, and we've seen that
the amount of people they are going to turn up
(09:53):
to this fixture. Criticism around international rugby league at the
end of the year is that the players are all spent.
They've left everything out there on the park throughout the long, arduous,
aggressive and quite frankly injury prone season and they haven't
got a great deal left. But I think all of
that pales into insignificance when the Kiwi take on the Australians.
(10:18):
Remember last time these two teams were met. Yes, the
Australians look burnt, but there's no way they should have
crumbled the way they did. They were absolutely hammered by
the Kiwi. Vengeance will be on their mind. They will
be upset, they will be angry more than anything, and
they'll want to put an end to the thoughts of
(10:39):
a Kiwi resurgence. They're going to play it like they
mean it. They're going to try and run straight through,
straight over or straight around the Kiwi coming up on
Sunday evening. But I'd suggest that with the crowd behind
and the packed house and the passion from Tuainamu, they're
going to have a hard time doing this. International League
(10:59):
may play second fiddle from time to time when it
comes to Australian New Zealand fixtures, it really is the
game to watch.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Let's us both pop inside the chamber, Lean and Alena
and kick around some sporting topics. Really interesting views from
Yvonne Willering on the Constellation Cup. Do you feel like
we're favorites? I feel like we're favorites.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
No I don't.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't primarily because what the Australians normally do after
we've whipped them, because we beat them home, what is
it eight consecutive times? Now turn out to Australia. What
normally happens They let loose and open up a can
of whop ass on us. So let's not get too
carried away because that is a hurting diamond side and
they'll be at home in Perth going, hey, that was embarrassing,
(11:49):
so they'll be a definitely there'll be some sting in
their tail for sure.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
So I don't know about favoritism.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Love the way they're playing, love the speed they're playing it,
Love the aggression they're loving. The accuracy from Weka Karen
Burger is fantastic. But the Australians don't like being touched
up by this, do they me?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Then here's the here's the question. Then what is more
powerful A wounded Australia or a New Zealand with momentum.
That is really what it comes down to here. As
we know the if it's a drawer, we go into
an extra time period at the end of the fourth
Test where it's nil. All couple of seven minute halves
if you can call them that, and it's almost like
(12:30):
a mini game as a decider. But I actually back
our team to win one of these two Test matches
in Australia, which they haven't done for a while. But
I feel like momentum is a thing here does.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
The beauty of momentum.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
Of course, as you well know, Jason Pine, is that
momentum can be stopped. Momentum is not one of those
things it carries on infinity and beyond.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It can be slowed up.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
And I'd back someone like the Australian Diamonds to actually
do that. And as for that fourth game, should it
end up going even Stevens and we go to that
two times seven minute decider, I'll.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Be really interested, say the.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
Australians win the game in Perth going to Melbourne, what
the makeup of the side is like, what the substitutes
are like, how the bench is used. Because there's a
really good chance both things will be absolutely gassed in
the last seven minutes, in the last fourteen minutes. So
how that has juggled and how that has operated during
that last mate.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So that's intriguing to me.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Jack absolute and me. And look, it'll come down to
what sort of I reckon it's three quarter time in
game four that these decisions start to be made of
New zealanderre behind by I say more than five or six,
then I think Dan Nolin give gives a few of
her players a rest in the fourth quarter, knowing that
they're going to this extra time period. I think if
they're within striking distance five or under or even ahead,
(13:51):
I think you try and win the thing three to one.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Well, it's like when you have what you and your
favorite sport, parking the bus in front of the goal.
You just asking for trouble if you do that, right,
So don't go for the win. Aggression, my friend, aggression.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Okay, momentum, let's continue this theme into ten Test cricket.
New Zealand have its. When they walk out in Pune
in a couple of hours or depending on when you're
listening to this, they might already have done that. For
the second test against a wounded India. It's a very
similar thing, isn't it. A wounded India are black Caps
with momentum? What do you predict?
Speaker 4 (14:24):
History says that India really lose it and do everything
they possibly can to not lose. And we've I've already
heard from Russian Avenger and a couple of the Black
Caps around the nature of the deck.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And you'll recall when.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
England won that first game when they're on a tour
of India. It was a five Test tour and the
Indians didn't take that well at all.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
After the first one.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
They preped the pictures as only they know best and
proceeded to absolutely wallop the English. So we should have fear, right, well,
fear I think we should be.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I think we should be cautious at what they will
throw back at us. Absolutely. Look, and in a three
Test series, there's no room for era here, right they
you know New Zealand know if they win the second Test,
they win the series, which they've never done in India.
We've never won a Test series in India. So look,
this is a huge history making moment. But I get you,
does India losing a Test series at home? It doesn't happen,
(15:25):
does not compute for them. So yeah, they'll be doing
everything they can on what is, by the sounds of it,
a spin friendly pitch in Poune. Now did you see,
just while we're on the subject of cricket, did you
see some Babwes score against Gambia.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
It would be hard to miss it.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
What what is this? Three hundred and forty four for four.
That's a good score in fifty over cricket. This was
a good score in Test cricket.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Mate for the first inning? Is he kidding there? Right?
Speaker 3 (15:53):
What's happened here? Obviously there's a massive mismatch. But I
think you did the number crunching on or the fact
finding on what competition this is actually in?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Okay, this might put it into some context.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
This is the ICC Men's Tea World Cup sub Regional
Africa Qualifier Group B.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
So you know, oh wow, so we're.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Really getting down the down the rankings a bit. But
clearly what a mismatch Zimbabwe. I mean, well they are
a test nation there are you know? There there are
a bona fide cricket country. Gambia clearly not. Did just
see the poor Seema Musa Jorbiter four overs none for
ninety three.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Ah and their response bundled out for fifty four. There's
a bit of work to be done in Gambia. That
the records they just keep getting broken. I mean you
look at at Bow's yes smoking all those runs that
was a that was a record as well. So it's
it's like the longer this game's on, the game goes on,
(16:57):
the more the records are broken. I don't know what
we can put that down to the spread of talent,
the lack thereof, or the uneven matches, the nature of
the decks, the thickness of the bat I just don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But it just gets better and better, doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
All of those things I reckoned us. And to tell
you what, who'd be a bowler? Who would be a
bowler these days? In T twenty cricket you are on
a hiding to nothing that is us in the chamber before.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
And yeah you are.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
But I'll give you a reason. I was not a
good bowler, I'll tear that right now, But I was
a terrible batsman. One thing I note about bowling. If
you get smashed for six, at least to get another go.
If you're a Batsman. You get rolled, that's it, You're out.
So I like that fat You've constantly got another opportunity
to actually do good, even though you might be basically
urinating into the wind, which was.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
In my case. I'm glad I don't play T twenty cricket.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Well, I'd be interested in the views of Musa jaw
Bita after his figures of heaven to go home and
explained to his family he bold four overs and got
none for ninety three. Anyway, that is us in the
chamber for.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
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