September 27, 2024 • 18 mins
Liam Lawson is finally a full-time Formula One pilot. 30 year F1 veteran Bob McMurray talks to us about the process, the potential, the pitfalls and the promise Liam has shown right from the start. After fighting his way from the bottom of the pile, how will he cope in the rarefied air of the world’s premier motorsport category?
D’Arcy gets his fire suit and helmet on to cheer Liams success from pitlane. Of course he does, it’s the biggest sport story of the year. To him anyway. F1 driver #10 from the Shaky Isles is in D’Arc’s crosshairs.
ZB Sport journo Elijah Fa’afiu is lured into the Chamber to talk sport, sport and more sport. Another big weekend ahead.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks. It'd be
follow this and our wide range of podcast now on iHeartRadio.
This is Sportsfix Howard by News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
It'd be welcome into Friday's Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
My name is Darcy Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
In this podcast all you need to know all that's
relevant in the wonderful wide world of the sport. It's
the twenty seventh of September twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
What we've got coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Bob McMurray, thirty years with McClaren in Formula one, joins
us to talk about, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The story there in sport.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Liam Lawson has secured himself a drive until the end
of the season with VCARB Racing.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This is bigger than Texas.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Incidentally, that's where he's going to be starting his racing
at the Circuit of the America's Track around about.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
October twenty first.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Bob McMurray joins us shortly up after that, I've got
some opinion, so pride surprise. I'm going to talk about
Liam law Wilson. I've got the ventrol pulsing through my veins.
And then Elijah for you News Talk ZB Sports reporter
joins us to talk about the big sports stories of
the day.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That's our plan, let's stick to it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
In other news.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
From the mouths of men is sport today, Liam Lawson
as a seat in the world's premiere motorsport category. The
fresh faced Bookie Koy Prodigy has secured six rounds in
the cockpit with Visa Cash appr BE Racing Team as
v cub for Sure. He kicks it off at the
US Grand Prix at Cota Circle of the America's October
(01:47):
twenty first Yes Hill on time for months of sim
work and sitting.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
His racecraft, though, will be sorely tested.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's always a big you know, it's always a big jump,
so it's going to be it's going to be tough
to jump vanous and I have been done before either,
so even though I've done fineers and work, it's going
to be it's going to be a big challenge plunge
all around.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
A Glenn Phillips has respond in the correct.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Manner to questions from media after an average first day's
play from the black Caps at Gaul.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Michael Media asked if the key We side should have
stacked their.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Team with seemas and subcontinent.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, no, definitely not.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I mentioned if we ended up that invert and you're
stuck with four seemers on an absolute London, that just
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Unfortunately, and All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has welcomed the return,
well the soon to be return to New Zealand rugby
of Lester Fayinger Anuku the monster wing is too bad
for the Crusaders in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Six and possibly for the All Blacks in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Raiser has stayed in contact though with Leicester throughout his
European sojourn along the Hallway.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
He's obviously going to come back and have a family
back in New Zealand. That contributed to the decision.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He's enjoyed his time on the French review era and
he's you know what's to come back big.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Thanks to you, Liam and Scott. Love your work. Use Kennedian.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave, McLaren Shelley, Aimon Home, Danley, McCrae, Nicholson,
Fat Will Hartley and now Liam Lawson.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
This is phenomenal for New Zealand motorsport. This is phenomenal
for Liam Lawson, even though it was the worst kept
secret in Formula One. When I woke this morning to
see that Liam Lawson was officially a Formula One driver
with a seat in the Vcarb race car, I couldn't
(03:47):
stop smiling, and quite frankly, I am still smiling now.
What a phenomenal achievement. This is one of the most
difficult things to achieve in motorsport. There are so few
seats at the top of Formula One. It is nigh
on impossible to secure a seat unless you've got a
billionaire dad or some investors a you that can afford
(04:10):
to burn through money. But Liam has one thing that
has propelled him to the top. He has an enormous
amount of talent. He's a fast driver, and I know
that makes no sense. You'd think all Formula one drivers
are fast, but he's inherently quick. He understands the car,
he has empathy with the machinery, and he's shown throughout
(04:32):
his life whatever you put him in, whatever category, whatever car,
he will drive it to absolute eight and have huge
success in doing so. The patients shown by Liam Lawson
over the last year since he had a wee toe
dipped in Formula one when Daniel Ricardo broke his hand
has been something else. He's by this time wait his patience,
(04:57):
and now he finds himself in one of the most
sought after seats in world motorsport. He has a Formula
One driver. This is phenomenal. I'm so happy for him.
I'm so happy for his family. I'm so happy for
everybody that helped out and supported Liam Lawson right from
(05:18):
the get go. We should all be super proud of
what this young man has achieved, all of this work
he has put in. But now the work really starts.
Liam Lawson, drive it like you stole it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's Sports Vex with Darcy, Waltergrave, Bob McMurray.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Welcome on and to me, this is the sports news
of the year and I expect it is for you
as well. Even though it's been projected, now it's landed.
This is phenomenal. I agree, Darcy. I agree, it's exciting.
It's not only exciting for Liam and his family who
have put quite a lot into it over the years.
(06:00):
It's very exciting for all the backers that are still
in New Zealand, most of many of whom are not known,
and there's certainly not known publicly, but you know they've
stuck with Liam all the way because they've had to
pay for his journey essentially, And it's very exciting for
the New Zealand public to get behind a Formula One
driver that is a keiw that's come up through the grades.
(06:21):
He's done the Formula Forward first and Tyler Racing Series
and all that sort of thing. And without I've got
to say Darcy, without the Tyler.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Racing Series, he would not have been noticed to get
into Formula One by Helbert Marco. So he's come through
the grades here in New Zealand, on New Zealand money
all the way up. Even me as a chairman of
the Kiwi Driver Fund, we had something to do with
him for two years supporting him. So he is a
child of this country's production line to get into to
(06:51):
get into the big leagues, and he's done it. How
much more proud can we be of somebody doing that.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm not sure if a lot of casual fans can
quite grasp the concept of how incredibly difficult it is
to get a seat in Formula One, especially from the
wrong side of the world, and especially on the back
of not a billionaire daddy. It's almost impossible, i'd suggest
to do what Liam has done.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, I agree, and there's not many people from this
side of the world that will do that. We'll be
able to do that at all. In fact, Liam was
not able to do that when you look at it.
He had to go to that side of the world
to blame his trade in the junior formula there and
do it their way before he got in. But with
no money effectively, Okay, he had backing from guys here,
(07:41):
and there's quite a lot of money backing in terms
of ordinary people, you could say, because it's very expensive
to do Formula three and Formula two. Red Bull didn't
pay much for him. It was the New Zealand money
that got in there. So he has come. He has
come into the realm of a contracted Formula one driver
(08:01):
and I differentiate that from his previous five races which
were good enough. But now he's a contracted driver. And look,
this kid from pooker Cot has just displaced a multiple
Grand Prix winning driver who is a major major asset
to the Red Bull team in flogging fizzy drinks and
(08:23):
being a wonderful shall we say ambassador for the whole
Netflix generation, for drive to survive, a major player in
Formula one. Okay, his talent has perhaps deserted him somewhat
in the last couple of years, and maybe that's a
question of age. I don't know, but they Red Bull
(08:43):
have displaced that person for Liam Lawson to take over,
and I think that is a fairly large achievement and
I can't equate it to any other achievement in any
other sport, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What I'm interested in, too, Bob, is the arm rastle
between their two controlling factors of Red Bull Racing. That's
Doctor Helmet Marco very much in the corner of Liam Lawson,
and of course a man who's had a fierce year
of trouble this year, Christian Horner, who from what I
can gather, wasn't overly keen on going in that direction.
(09:17):
So there's been a huge battle at the top for
him to actually get this seat.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Indeed, I think you're probably right. See it has come
out to the way that things have played out between
the two of them, that there was a power battle
which Christian Horner has clearly won. In looking at Red
Bull as a team, but Helmer Marco still has the
backing of a major part of Red Bull, I mean
forty nine percent of Red Bull in selecting drivers and
(09:46):
all that sort of thing. So the power battle between
them has been ongoing for some time and it's not
finished yet. And I rather think that Christian Horner would
prefer his shall we say, a favorite sons, Perez and
Ricardo to be there. But suddenly he's coming up against
this immovable force that Ricardo is not going to get
(10:07):
any better. He's had to acceed to the wishes, demands,
whatever you want to say, to get back to the
young driver program which is promoted Liam. I've never felt
that Christian Horner has been a great fan of Liam Lawson.
The way he goes about things. I wouldn't believe a
single word that came out of Christian Horner's mouth in
(10:29):
any case, the moment their particular, those two vying captains
of a ship that is sort of on the rocks
a little bit, and all the shall we say, the
talented rats are leaving that ship, and you know it
does affect the morale of the team as well. So
Red Bull is not a place that is good to
(10:50):
be at at the moment, and you can see that
by people going. But Liam is in the RB team,
He's away from that a little bit. He can concentrate
on what he's good at, and that's driving a car
and hopefully driving it well enough to beat the pants
of Yuki Sonoda so that he can promote himself for
a further track for next year, which he doesn't have
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Hey, joining us in the chamber.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Who tends to be in this chamber with Jason Pine
on a Monday, Well, I've hauled him from Monday to
Friday out of the news room news talking to Big
Sports reporter Elijah for you. Welcome in, Thanks for joining us, mate,
thanks for getting out of your comfort zone and coming
on with me.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
You're good, Yeah, no worries.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I'm great.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
I've signed my one day contract for today are so,
I'm glad to be joining you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
You sign a contract. I'm not paying you regardless of
what you sign.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Hey, let's look across the weekend and some of the
stories I suppose coming out, and I've talked at length
about Liam Lawson, so I will let that one go
as a big test Tomorrow the team named by Scott Robinson.
In your opinion, I'm still confused about where he's sitting.
He's been quite safe all year, hasn't he This? This
(12:02):
this strike you as odd what he's done.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Slightly, I don't think he's been adventurous enough. I think
putting Bowden was the big talking point Boden over Mackenzie,
and I'm quite interested to see how that goes on.
And I mean his named TJ starting at half day.
I don't know if that's out of the fact that
it will be his last game and ins.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
End and you get a sneaking feeling that it might
just be a wee bit.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
It might just be a wee bit. You got Sam
campaign is a hundred, which is nice, but I think
Scott Robertson needs to be a bit more bolder with
his choices. So interested to see how Boden goes particularly
at ten.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
The story around the lack of risk taking is huge,
but he's plainly got a four year plan. He knows
what he's doing, so it's very slowly, but surely this
is we talked about this last number of the show
a dead rubber, but they're still playing for their country,
so I think there was any opportunity though, for Scott
Robinson to throw caution to the wind before the Northern tour.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
This would be it.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Right, You'd think so, because hopefully after this last letterslow
Clash and Robertson would have an easy idea of what
his squad looks like ahead of the Northern tour. So
I'm not really too sure what raises thinking. Maybe he's
got a long term plan in place and he's probably
asking us All Blacks fans to be patient, so maybe
that's the go.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
We're not very good at patient.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And I suppose the fear of this is you lose
against Australia in Wellington. Losing Wellington again, I mean he
might be run out of town. It's almost like he
has to that record of Wellington's appalling no victory since
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
It's cursed bro.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
That's probably the biggest storyline and probably the one thing
I'm worried about here twenty eighteen. And I think we
had a draw against Australia, so Australia might set as
some sort of advantage they shouldn't. But yeah, I'm a
bit worried for the All Blacks there.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, Eden Park has got like the fortress surrounding it,
and it looks like the fortress down there has been stormed.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
It's the exact opposite of what Eden Park's got. I
don't know what it is about that playing any idea.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Not too sure, but I'd love to see the spring
box and come up to eat at Nien Park. That's
probably the big marquee match up they were looking forward to.
That's put the streak up against the best team in
the world.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Elijah joined us as we're in the chamber talking the
big sports stories. What earth happened last night with the
black Caps? You can't grasp chances? That said an essence,
isn't it?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
I think so? I think I think some of the players,
unfortunately forgot to wipe the butter off their breakfast and
the toast this morning, and there was a case of butterfingers.
There are a few drop catches and miss stumping. You
can't really have that, and especially on the subcontinent because
of the Shrilankans. They'll they'll make you, they'll make you
pay and they'll punish you.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Do you think, though, from what you've seen, that there
are still a chance that New Zealand might be able
to weigh into them and maybe the first session. It's
not all over three hundred odd for three. It's not
the end of the test. Please tell me it's not
the end of the test. We can we could do this,
can't we?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I hope?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I mean, it is interesting that they're named an unchanged lineup.
That was probably one of the big sticking.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Points out of Gary Steed though, isn't it there Susie
and Cricket They kind of do that habitually.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Huh, yeah, it is.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
I don't know if the solution is, like, do you
switch up the pace bowling options instead of over rourk
and salad, you bring in one of the other guys
in or do you.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Want to give of rock after what he's no, no,
not maybe more? Maybe fine, I'll say it, maybe more
to Saldi.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
But preliminary finals for the n R l over the weekend,
SEEMI final and regular language. Some some guy in advertising
came up with just a good idea. We'll call it
blah bah. Most of your fans can't even pronounce.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like myself.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They see me yeah and see me final any particular
game you're looking forward to the most because there is
so much to like about both of these exchanges.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
For me, it's it's the roosters in the Storm and
they've had some classic matchups in the postseason in the past.
But in particular, you've got Jared Wyrio Hardgraves running at
nowson a Sofa Solomona, and we've seen them in the past,
those who have gone at it, and I'm just I
can't wait to see those two go.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
They're not going to run at each other.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They're going to find the smallest guy in the park
and run straight at them. Yet to be nuts to
run at each other than saying that they're props in
the NRL, They're probably not the sharpest tools in the shit, are.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Yeah, but they're probably going to find the way to
get in there somehow and then stick it into the
other guys. So I mean, at some point they're going
to collide, which is I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
These the top four teams have ended up being the
top four teams, which is what you like to see.
The consistency, especially of the Penrith Panthers and the Melbourne
Storm is so impressive and the Warriors and every other
club are looking at them going how do you do
this on such a regular basis. It's such a hard
competition to win, It's such a hard competition to finish
(16:52):
near the top of the ladder. But these guys repeatedly
get it done. What's the magic here?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
I mean, they've shown that the standard of excellence is
so high and that everyone else needs to catch up.
I think part of it is maybe I don't like
using the term, but the system may especially with the
Panthers and the way that they've run won of the
last three premierships, and similar to the Storm before that
when they had the big three of Smith, Slader and Kronk.
So yeah, I think we do a Panthers Storm Grand Final.
(17:23):
But I would love to see someone maybe disrupt things
a little bit, maybe, you know, rip up the script
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
So who do you like?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Then?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You want to see the Apple card upset?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Who do you like?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
For both games?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
I'm going to go Storm and Panthers, But I would
like to see someone maybe top of the boat a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And of course, because of the New Zealand connection, you
would love to see the Panthers s do it again.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Yeah, the two best teams at.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It coat stuff. Mister, Thank you very much for joining us.
The checks and the mail. Thank you Das.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
It'd be welcome into Friday's Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
My name is Darcy Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
In this podcast all you need to know all that's
relevant in the wonderful wide world of the sport. It's
the twenty seventh of September twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
What we've got coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Bob McMurray, thirty years with McClaren in Formula one, joins
us to talk about, in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The story there in sport.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Liam Lawson has secured himself a drive until the end
of the season with VCARB Racing.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
This is bigger than Texas.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Incidentally, that's where he's going to be starting his racing
at the Circuit of the America's Track around about.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
October twenty first.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Bob McMurray joins us shortly up after that, I've got
some opinion, so pride surprise. I'm going to talk about
Liam law Wilson. I've got the ventrol pulsing through my veins.
And then Elijah for you News Talk ZB Sports reporter
joins us to talk about the big sports stories of
the day.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
That's our plan, let's stick to it.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
In other news.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
From the mouths of men is sport today, Liam Lawson
as a seat in the world's premiere motorsport category. The
fresh faced Bookie Koy Prodigy has secured six rounds in
the cockpit with Visa Cash appr BE Racing Team as
v cub for Sure. He kicks it off at the
US Grand Prix at Cota Circle of the America's October
(01:47):
twenty first Yes Hill on time for months of sim
work and sitting.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
His racecraft, though, will be sorely tested.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's always a big you know, it's always a big jump,
so it's going to be it's going to be tough
to jump vanous and I have been done before either,
so even though I've done fineers and work, it's going
to be it's going to be a big challenge plunge
all around.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
A Glenn Phillips has respond in the correct.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Manner to questions from media after an average first day's
play from the black Caps at Gaul.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Michael Media asked if the key We side should have
stacked their.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Team with seemas and subcontinent.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yeah, no, definitely not.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I mentioned if we ended up that invert and you're
stuck with four seemers on an absolute London, that just
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Unfortunately, and All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has welcomed the return,
well the soon to be return to New Zealand rugby
of Lester Fayinger Anuku the monster wing is too bad
for the Crusaders in twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Six and possibly for the All Blacks in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Raiser has stayed in contact though with Leicester throughout his
European sojourn along the Hallway.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
He's obviously going to come back and have a family
back in New Zealand. That contributed to the decision.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
He's enjoyed his time on the French review era and
he's you know what's to come back big.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Thanks to you, Liam and Scott. Love your work. Use Kennedian.
Speaker 6 (03:13):
It's Sportsfix with Dancy Valdegrave, McLaren Shelley, Aimon Home, Danley, McCrae, Nicholson,
Fat Will Hartley and now Liam Lawson.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
This is phenomenal for New Zealand motorsport. This is phenomenal
for Liam Lawson, even though it was the worst kept
secret in Formula One. When I woke this morning to
see that Liam Lawson was officially a Formula One driver
with a seat in the Vcarb race car, I couldn't
(03:47):
stop smiling, and quite frankly, I am still smiling now.
What a phenomenal achievement. This is one of the most
difficult things to achieve in motorsport. There are so few
seats at the top of Formula One. It is nigh
on impossible to secure a seat unless you've got a
billionaire dad or some investors a you that can afford
(04:10):
to burn through money. But Liam has one thing that
has propelled him to the top. He has an enormous
amount of talent. He's a fast driver, and I know
that makes no sense. You'd think all Formula one drivers
are fast, but he's inherently quick. He understands the car,
he has empathy with the machinery, and he's shown throughout
(04:32):
his life whatever you put him in, whatever category, whatever car,
he will drive it to absolute eight and have huge
success in doing so. The patients shown by Liam Lawson
over the last year since he had a wee toe
dipped in Formula one when Daniel Ricardo broke his hand
has been something else. He's by this time wait his patience,
(04:57):
and now he finds himself in one of the most
sought after seats in world motorsport. He has a Formula
One driver. This is phenomenal. I'm so happy for him.
I'm so happy for his family. I'm so happy for
everybody that helped out and supported Liam Lawson right from
(05:18):
the get go. We should all be super proud of
what this young man has achieved, all of this work
he has put in. But now the work really starts.
Liam Lawson, drive it like you stole it.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
It's Sports Vex with Darcy, Waltergrave, Bob McMurray.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Welcome on and to me, this is the sports news
of the year and I expect it is for you
as well. Even though it's been projected, now it's landed.
This is phenomenal. I agree, Darcy. I agree, it's exciting.
It's not only exciting for Liam and his family who
have put quite a lot into it over the years.
(06:00):
It's very exciting for all the backers that are still
in New Zealand, most of many of whom are not known,
and there's certainly not known publicly, but you know they've
stuck with Liam all the way because they've had to
pay for his journey essentially, And it's very exciting for
the New Zealand public to get behind a Formula One
driver that is a keiw that's come up through the grades.
(06:21):
He's done the Formula Forward first and Tyler Racing Series
and all that sort of thing. And without I've got
to say Darcy, without the Tyler.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Racing Series, he would not have been noticed to get
into Formula One by Helbert Marco. So he's come through
the grades here in New Zealand, on New Zealand money
all the way up. Even me as a chairman of
the Kiwi Driver Fund, we had something to do with
him for two years supporting him. So he is a
child of this country's production line to get into to
(06:51):
get into the big leagues, and he's done it. How
much more proud can we be of somebody doing that.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
I'm not sure if a lot of casual fans can
quite grasp the concept of how incredibly difficult it is
to get a seat in Formula One, especially from the
wrong side of the world, and especially on the back
of not a billionaire daddy. It's almost impossible, i'd suggest
to do what Liam has done.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Yeah, I agree, and there's not many people from this
side of the world that will do that. We'll be
able to do that at all. In fact, Liam was
not able to do that when you look at it.
He had to go to that side of the world
to blame his trade in the junior formula there and
do it their way before he got in. But with
no money effectively, Okay, he had backing from guys here,
(07:41):
and there's quite a lot of money backing in terms
of ordinary people, you could say, because it's very expensive
to do Formula three and Formula two. Red Bull didn't
pay much for him. It was the New Zealand money
that got in there. So he has come. He has
come into the realm of a contracted Formula one driver
(08:01):
and I differentiate that from his previous five races which
were good enough. But now he's a contracted driver. And look,
this kid from pooker Cot has just displaced a multiple
Grand Prix winning driver who is a major major asset
to the Red Bull team in flogging fizzy drinks and
(08:23):
being a wonderful shall we say ambassador for the whole
Netflix generation, for drive to survive, a major player in
Formula one. Okay, his talent has perhaps deserted him somewhat
in the last couple of years, and maybe that's a
question of age. I don't know, but they Red Bull
(08:43):
have displaced that person for Liam Lawson to take over,
and I think that is a fairly large achievement and
I can't equate it to any other achievement in any
other sport, to be honest.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
What I'm interested in, too, Bob, is the arm rastle
between their two controlling factors of Red Bull Racing. That's
Doctor Helmet Marco very much in the corner of Liam Lawson,
and of course a man who's had a fierce year
of trouble this year, Christian Horner, who from what I
can gather, wasn't overly keen on going in that direction.
(09:17):
So there's been a huge battle at the top for
him to actually get this seat.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Indeed, I think you're probably right. See it has come
out to the way that things have played out between
the two of them, that there was a power battle
which Christian Horner has clearly won. In looking at Red
Bull as a team, but Helmer Marco still has the
backing of a major part of Red Bull, I mean
forty nine percent of Red Bull in selecting drivers and
(09:46):
all that sort of thing. So the power battle between
them has been ongoing for some time and it's not
finished yet. And I rather think that Christian Horner would
prefer his shall we say, a favorite sons, Perez and
Ricardo to be there. But suddenly he's coming up against
this immovable force that Ricardo is not going to get
(10:07):
any better. He's had to acceed to the wishes, demands,
whatever you want to say, to get back to the
young driver program which is promoted Liam. I've never felt
that Christian Horner has been a great fan of Liam Lawson.
The way he goes about things. I wouldn't believe a
single word that came out of Christian Horner's mouth in
(10:29):
any case, the moment their particular, those two vying captains
of a ship that is sort of on the rocks
a little bit, and all the shall we say, the
talented rats are leaving that ship, and you know it
does affect the morale of the team as well. So
Red Bull is not a place that is good to
(10:50):
be at at the moment, and you can see that
by people going. But Liam is in the RB team,
He's away from that a little bit. He can concentrate
on what he's good at, and that's driving a car
and hopefully driving it well enough to beat the pants
of Yuki Sonoda so that he can promote himself for
a further track for next year, which he doesn't have
at the moment.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Hey, joining us in the chamber.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Who tends to be in this chamber with Jason Pine
on a Monday, Well, I've hauled him from Monday to
Friday out of the news room news talking to Big
Sports reporter Elijah for you. Welcome in, Thanks for joining us, mate,
thanks for getting out of your comfort zone and coming
on with me.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
You're good, Yeah, no worries.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
I'm great.
Speaker 7 (11:34):
I've signed my one day contract for today are so,
I'm glad to be joining you.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
You sign a contract. I'm not paying you regardless of
what you sign.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Hey, let's look across the weekend and some of the
stories I suppose coming out, and I've talked at length
about Liam Lawson, so I will let that one go
as a big test Tomorrow the team named by Scott Robinson.
In your opinion, I'm still confused about where he's sitting.
He's been quite safe all year, hasn't he This? This
(12:02):
this strike you as odd what he's done.
Speaker 7 (12:04):
Slightly, I don't think he's been adventurous enough. I think
putting Bowden was the big talking point Boden over Mackenzie,
and I'm quite interested to see how that goes on.
And I mean his named TJ starting at half day.
I don't know if that's out of the fact that
it will be his last game and ins.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
End and you get a sneaking feeling that it might
just be a wee bit.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
It might just be a wee bit. You got Sam
campaign is a hundred, which is nice, but I think
Scott Robertson needs to be a bit more bolder with
his choices. So interested to see how Boden goes particularly
at ten.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
The story around the lack of risk taking is huge,
but he's plainly got a four year plan. He knows
what he's doing, so it's very slowly, but surely this
is we talked about this last number of the show
a dead rubber, but they're still playing for their country,
so I think there was any opportunity though, for Scott
Robinson to throw caution to the wind before the Northern tour.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
This would be it.
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Right, You'd think so, because hopefully after this last letterslow
Clash and Robertson would have an easy idea of what
his squad looks like ahead of the Northern tour. So
I'm not really too sure what raises thinking. Maybe he's
got a long term plan in place and he's probably
asking us All Blacks fans to be patient, so maybe
that's the go.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
We're not very good at patient.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And I suppose the fear of this is you lose
against Australia in Wellington. Losing Wellington again, I mean he
might be run out of town. It's almost like he
has to that record of Wellington's appalling no victory since
twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
It's cursed bro.
Speaker 7 (13:40):
That's probably the biggest storyline and probably the one thing
I'm worried about here twenty eighteen. And I think we
had a draw against Australia, so Australia might set as
some sort of advantage they shouldn't. But yeah, I'm a
bit worried for the All Blacks there.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, Eden Park has got like the fortress surrounding it,
and it looks like the fortress down there has been stormed.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
It's the exact opposite of what Eden Park's got. I
don't know what it is about that playing any idea.
Speaker 7 (14:04):
Not too sure, but I'd love to see the spring
box and come up to eat at Nien Park. That's
probably the big marquee match up they were looking forward to.
That's put the streak up against the best team in
the world.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Elijah joined us as we're in the chamber talking the
big sports stories. What earth happened last night with the
black Caps? You can't grasp chances? That said an essence,
isn't it?
Speaker 7 (14:27):
I think so? I think I think some of the players,
unfortunately forgot to wipe the butter off their breakfast and
the toast this morning, and there was a case of butterfingers.
There are a few drop catches and miss stumping. You
can't really have that, and especially on the subcontinent because
of the Shrilankans. They'll they'll make you, they'll make you
pay and they'll punish you.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Do you think, though, from what you've seen, that there
are still a chance that New Zealand might be able
to weigh into them and maybe the first session. It's
not all over three hundred odd for three. It's not
the end of the test. Please tell me it's not
the end of the test. We can we could do this,
can't we?
Speaker 3 (15:00):
I hope?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
So?
Speaker 7 (15:01):
I mean, it is interesting that they're named an unchanged lineup.
That was probably one of the big sticking.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
Points out of Gary Steed though, isn't it there Susie
and Cricket They kind of do that habitually.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
Huh, yeah, it is.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
I don't know if the solution is, like, do you
switch up the pace bowling options instead of over rourk
and salad, you bring in one of the other guys
in or do you.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Want to give of rock after what he's no, no,
not maybe more? Maybe fine, I'll say it, maybe more
to Saldi.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
But preliminary finals for the n R l over the weekend,
SEEMI final and regular language. Some some guy in advertising
came up with just a good idea. We'll call it
blah bah. Most of your fans can't even pronounce.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Like myself.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
They see me yeah and see me final any particular
game you're looking forward to the most because there is
so much to like about both of these exchanges.
Speaker 7 (15:51):
For me, it's it's the roosters in the Storm and
they've had some classic matchups in the postseason in the past.
But in particular, you've got Jared Wyrio Hardgraves running at
nowson a Sofa Solomona, and we've seen them in the past,
those who have gone at it, and I'm just I
can't wait to see those two go.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
They're not going to run at each other.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They're going to find the smallest guy in the park
and run straight at them. Yet to be nuts to
run at each other than saying that they're props in
the NRL, They're probably not the sharpest tools in the shit, are.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Yeah, but they're probably going to find the way to
get in there somehow and then stick it into the
other guys. So I mean, at some point they're going
to collide, which is I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
These the top four teams have ended up being the
top four teams, which is what you like to see.
The consistency, especially of the Penrith Panthers and the Melbourne
Storm is so impressive and the Warriors and every other
club are looking at them going how do you do
this on such a regular basis. It's such a hard
competition to win, It's such a hard competition to finish
(16:52):
near the top of the ladder. But these guys repeatedly
get it done. What's the magic here?
Speaker 7 (16:58):
I mean, they've shown that the standard of excellence is
so high and that everyone else needs to catch up.
I think part of it is maybe I don't like
using the term, but the system may especially with the
Panthers and the way that they've run won of the
last three premierships, and similar to the Storm before that
when they had the big three of Smith, Slader and Kronk.
So yeah, I think we do a Panthers Storm Grand Final.
(17:23):
But I would love to see someone maybe disrupt things
a little bit, maybe, you know, rip up the script
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
So who do you like?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Then?
Speaker 3 (17:30):
You want to see the Apple card upset?
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Who do you like?
Speaker 3 (17:33):
For both games?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Now?
Speaker 7 (17:33):
I'm going to go Storm and Panthers, But I would
like to see someone maybe top of the boat a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
And of course, because of the New Zealand connection, you
would love to see the Panthers s do it again.
Speaker 7 (17:44):
Yeah, the two best teams at.
Speaker 3 (17:45):
It coat stuff. Mister, Thank you very much for joining us.
The checks and the mail. Thank you Das.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
This is Sports Fix, your daily dose of sports news
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Speaker 2 (17:57):
And that's Sports Fix for a Friday afternoon. It's the
twenty seventh of September twenty twenty four minums Darcy Watergrave,
thanks for joining myself and Jason.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
Pine throughout the week. For more on air.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
Of course, there is a Sports Talk between seven and
eight Monday to Friday on News Talks EDB. Then Jason
Pine does what Jason Pine does on weekend sport between
midday and three Saturday and Sunday. If you like the
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