August 28, 2024 • 20 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Wednesday 28 August 2024 - Peach Boxing's Issac Peach talks about Jerome Pampellone's IBF title eliminator in Sydney tonight, plus the rise of combat sports in New Zealand.
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on NZR's massive payout to former coach Leon MacDonald.
Plus, one NZ Herald Sports Online Editor joins the panel to discuss whether the Paralympics should be before the Olympics?
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Why Hello there, and welcome on into Sports Fix, your
daily podcast for all the sport you need to know
about and some of you probably don't. My name is
Darcy Waltergrave. It's a Wednesday. It's the twenty eighth of
August twenty twenty four. Lined up in today's program, Jerome
Pampalone fights tonight. It is an eliminate about to hopefully
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get a shot at the IBF world title in the
light heavyweights. Isaac Peach joins us. He is the coach
demand charged with making sure Jerome gets it right this
time around after our defeat last time. Who's he fighting?
It's Connor Wallace tonight the IBF eliminator final. Peach up next.
After that, well, I'm going to have a few words
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around the nature of payouts in sport. You know that
Leo McDonald's been given a rather handsome handshake. Now they
is departed the All Black camp? What does that mean
for the All Blacks and New Zealander Rugby and will
be joined in studio on the Lena by Alex Powell.
Alex is the digital sport editor for The New Zealand Hill.
(01:26):
That's what we're up to, let's do it now. In
other news bouncing around the sporting stratosphere today, football firms
at striker Grace Yale hopes she can take a game
to the next level upon her return to the Wellington
Phoenix and the A League. The twenty five year old
who led the next and scoring during their debut twenty
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one to twenty two campaign, is determined to express herself
in the upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I guess playing with freedom and confidence for me personally,
I think that I should be confident enough by now
having three seasons in the A League and I know
what to expect.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Boxer Jerome Pampa and wants the show. He's still a
contender in the light heavyweight division as he takes on
the Australian Foreign Island Connor Wallace and an IBF title
eliminator in Sydney tonight. It's the London born Key was
second eliminator fight after suffering his first professional loss to
Malik Zanard back in April.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think it shows a lot about me as a fighter.
That I just want to fight the best and be
the best.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So we've never got a tough opponent in Connor Wallace
in front of us as I'm ready for.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
No concerns from the spring box over there depth at Locke.
Despite veteran Evan Elizabeth missing Sunday's Rugby Championship game against
the All Black at Alice Park, one hundred and twenty
four test forward is sidelined with a knee nickel, South
Africa's assistant coach Deon Davids says it's simply time for
the next man to step up.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
We've got some good depth term of guys that have
played in those positions. They of the tweed one at
a good game in the last team. It's always been
tough for you and lose some experience, but it's also
a great opportunity to see the quality and the new
for the next day.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
I can believe I'm calling Foxing he will play and
that's sport today.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
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Talks, IVY, Huge Night and Combat Sports Tonight Boxing particularly
in the Squared Circle. We're joined now by Isaac Peach.
Of course, the trainer behind a man who is close
to a world title fight. Jerome Pampalone is our man.
Tonight he takes on Connor Wallace in a world title eliminator. Isaac,
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Welcome to the program. First up, just describe the energy
and darling harbor leading up to a fight like that.
What what's it like, palpable? I'm presuming yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I mean, today's pretty quiet because it's kind of come
before the storm. But the last few days been pretty busy.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's a full house here. It's a big fight, man.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Huge fight. So in the lead up, so today's pretty quiet.
You need a bit of time to breathe, and I
suppose master your thoughts. Is that standard in the fight game?
You have that calm?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is you always like that? Man?
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Usually a couple of days before everyone's spelting around and
everyone's excited and voiceous, and then day of the fight
it's quite quiet. Everyone's kind of kitching themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And then we get in there and perform. Right, So
what's Drone been specifically? What had been working on with
him and the leader after what happened last time around
is oh went he had that loss that up against
Mullick Zanard, So what have you been focusing on. Do
you look back much to that exchange, Isaac?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, Look, we've got our best to pick up our game.
I mean, we've tried to better ourselves in all areas.
We didn't really step up last time. We only just
lost a world class guy, but it wasn't good enough.
And we've worked on all the one percenters just to
get over the line.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And this time.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
You always say it with your guys, but I really
felt drones at his beds and I'm bloody excited for
tonight and we've worked really hard. We've had a great camp.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Looking back to that fight and that loss. You say
the one per centers, what particularly was it work inside?
Was it outside? Was controlling the fight? Was it getting
in the corner, staying in the middle? What did you
actually look like? What did you look at? But that
particular fight where you think one of those one percent
didn't quite hit the mark.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Well, there's a few things, man like we hit that
mu legs and abel shots felt and killed a guy and
he smiled at us so as ally as popping out
of his heads. We've got some queries on what was
going on regarding drugs that night. If you go rewatch
the fight, you see what I mean. But also he
had a good game plan. They had a good good
game plan. They keep us away, they keep us on
the end of the jab. Jerome got staying with a
few shots that heard him and gave him a bit
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of a glaze. And we couldn't couldn't quite get there.
In this game, when you get to the top level,
if you're not quite there, you're not going to win.
So we put a lot out of it. We got
twelve hard rounds and Dromes have been quite aflore it.
We're not going to make those mistakes.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Hope not.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Hey go back to what you said about the drug accusation.
Have you gone any further with that? What's the grounding,
what's the basis on that? What's being done?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Just a room and all that was going around where
we were, But I mean, and we can't control that.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
These guys dot paper coasting. So yeah, that you got
through now. Connor Wallace described the man in the other corner.
What does he got what thirteen and one? So plainly
he's got whiskers, he can take a shot. What else
do you know about him?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Oh, it's good, he's Irish's a he's a really good
self poor. He's all good self poor. He's had a
lot of amateur fights. He's the top right everyweight in
the side of the world. We think dromers and it's
a world class pipe mans when I fights for a
world title. So look, we know what we're up against.
But I think Jerome's best slight eavyweight, honest day in
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the world, and I need to get the best derme
to win this fight, and i think I've got it
right now.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
As far as the crowd goes, a lot of people there,
I'm presuming most of them will be barracking for Jerome,
being that he's you know, he's an Anzac, he's from
the Southern heman's feet well, he represents the Southern fear
even though it's a north Port.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
The guy who lives in Australia, he's got big Irish support.
No one wants us to win on the go from
as well. So we've been treated like shit, to be
honest with you, So we're going to go shove up
every bath to here and we're really motivated and we've
got no time for anyone in the super Country. We're
coming to rub it in their face and.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's what kind of crew have you got to be?
You've got a big posse that's over there helping out yourself,
your trainers the like as well. Entourage there, Isaac. No,
we don't do that way. We roll alone, so we
cow it's rolling groups.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We roll alone.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
We've got me Jerome, my brother usually here, but he's
actually had an operation, so it's me and my brother. Sorry,
it's me Jerome and my wife. And we've got a doctor,
doctor Sam here to do the cats.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's all we got.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
What is what the rise and rise of fight sport
in this country? Isaac? What do you put it down to?
We've got Joe Parker right at the top, and the heavyweights.
You look right across city kickboxing, what's happening there with
mixed martial art? Of course, Jerome and Caleb. It's the
list goes on. It's really surging. What do you put
that down to? Why are we suddenly so good and
so interested in this sport?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Are there some people in the sport that have given
these guys some direction? To doc Man, We've got a
we've got a country of athletes. I think it's it's
always been like that. What New Zealand and put their
mind to that good out right. We've got to rugby.
We're good at rowing, We're going to We've got all
sorts of sports, so we'll put our mind to a
bit of fighting. We're good of that too. So I
think we've got a pretty amazing country and quite a
lot of ability down here.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think that's the truth of it.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I think if you look over all sports New Zealander
populations for the best in the world, what about.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Access on on TV or online. People have got access
to it now, so they're really starting to buy in
because they can actually see it whenever they want. That's
got to be a contributing factor. Surely the fan base
and the potential are to make some coin too.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I don't know, man, to be honest with, you're tired.
I think the biggest letdown in New Zealander is we
don't fill stadiums. You go to the place in the
world and everyone gets behind it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
In New Zealand, it's quiet.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
We've got the ability of the fighters and the athletes,
but trying to get people along to support your fighters
and sponsorships, that's really hard. And if we can get
if we can improve on that, it would make life a.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Whole lot easier.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Look, look TV doesn't get behind us man Skuy's not
even put in beside. It's disgusting. I have sky TV
putting on a little eliminated for one of our young athletes.
It's just I'm speechless.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What do you think people enjoy watching it? What's the
attraction with fight sport me or boxing at any weight level?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
What's the attraction the attraction fights for someone can get hurt.
It sounds silly, but it's got that X factor, right,
It's not a game of tennis. When you lose it,
it's dangerous. It's got all those all those X factors
that people like. I mean, it's human nature's right. Back
in the day, I've always liked watching violent threat, So
I think it's that. But it's controlled violence, and I
think it's always been something people want.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Hey, what about power slap Dana watch New Invention? Have
you have you seen that? Do you think that's got
any any traction to be made over here? Because I
think it's only in Nevada you're actually allowed to do
it because it's so brutal.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Is that the slapping on the faces.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's the one where they basically stand there right disgusting.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I think it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in
my life. You want to see your brain damage and
that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. It's not even
a sport. What are you going to do? I think
it's brutal and it's done, and you're going to have
a whole lot of kids doing it at school, and
I think it's dangerous. And one second time for that.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Grip and I agree completely it's insane. And on that
we'll let you get on with your preparation. Hey, Whorish jeron,
the best of luck from all of us here at
News Talks eb and hopefully we can take it a
gaze at it somehow of an evening. Isaac Peach, thanks
for your time, my friend.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
No worries Man, Well, we went in from New Zealand
TONIGHTMA were shoving up these Aussies in the Irish think.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
You this is sportsfix your daily does of sports news?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
How in News Talks EBB.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
No, we don't know how much Leon McDonald is being
paid out. We never will employment issues. Why would they
share such sensitive and delicate information, Although when you look
over to the United States of America, and you look
to England and you look to football players. We really
do have a much better idea about what kind of
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money these characters are earning. We're not going to find
out here. It's something about the psyche of New Zealand.
No one wants to tell anyone else what they earn,
so all people can do is hazard a guess as
to how much money people earn and in turn how
much money it costs people like inns it are to
cancel a contract. It's looking like Leam McDonald is getting
(11:26):
a two year pay it it is a four year contract,
so I'm presuming that makes sink. You've got to remember
as well, we had Brad More, we had John Plumtree
also acts halfway through their contract now INSI are don't
have a lot of money. We know this. They've sold
their soul to Silverlate to try and generate more. All
sorts of ruckus going on with provincial rugby, Super Rugby
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and at the top level about how much gets paid
to these players and how much money is actually in
New Zealand. We know we can't keep a lot of
the top players coming to the end of their career
over here because the cash isn't there. They can go
to Japan, they can go to France, they go anywhere
and then make a pile more money. And that's fine
Zr's case, though, You've got a look and I hate
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to go back to this again, but I will at
the due diligence around them poying someone like Leon McDonald,
because not only was it an embarrassment for Scott Robertson,
an embarrassment for the All Blacks and n z are,
it's also going to cost them an arm and a leg.
And I don't think there's going to be a replacement
for Leon McDonald while they're busy paying his bill. So
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if anything taken out of that any dare I say
it learnings your due diligence is very important. ZEDR. Haven't
got money to burn in a situation like this. We're
not talking small beans. We're talking a large sum of money.
And I think that not only the embarrassment but also
the financial punch in the face was hardly worth it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The Chamber is now in session on sports Vex.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And it's warmut Welcome to the comfort of the Leaner.
To Alex Powell, digital sports editor from New Zealand. To
Hero midweek madness made. How are you good?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
May think you having me back after all this time.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, it's nice to have you here. Look, I tell
you what. There's a tussle, there's jostling to get on
this program, but we always appreciate your import Right, let's
look at the stories of the day. Leo McDonald has
been given a sack of gold, more rice than he
can eat. I mean, I don't know what they gave him.
No one really does know, but there is conjecture out
there based.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
On well, I mean, all the reporting revolves around this
figure of a two year payout, you know, which we
understand to be halfway through a four year deal, as
they do with these contracts. But that just adds up
that he's been sacked.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And that's the nature of that. It's employment contracts. No
one's ever going to know, are we. All we can
do is throw ideas around fair and right.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
Well, I mean, Unlesli McDonald comes out and says this
is what's happened. But I mean he's a very private guy.
He hates the media, he hates talking. So I mean,
I think we're just going to have to stick with
what we've got so far.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, so if we expand on that and you say
you'll claim that he may actually been removed or how
do you marry that up? Is that because people just
don't pay out if they leaded their own volition.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Well, mean it's a settlement, isn't it. The fact that
we never we still haven't heard from Leo McDonald through
all the ends at our channels, for me speaks volume.
Scott robertson front foot at chrysal Dendrum, New Zealand Rugby's
head a professional rugby front fort of it. We are
yet to hear from Leon and like I said, I
don't think we ever will.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, and I suppose when you look toward and I
had to keep saying, but oh well, the due diligence,
not really knowing where he was at and then suddenly
you faced wherever it came from. With this huge payout,
Rugby just can't afford to do this.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
Well, on top of sacking plum Tree and more a
couple of years ago, this is just another one. It's
good things coming three is bad things coming three. This
is the third coach sacked.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's interesting when you look at what we do and
don't know around coaches and sports people and what they
sign up for. This is very close chop here in
New Zealand. But you look to the British football for example,
you look to American basketball and football. It's all out
there for everybody to see. What is it with the
redisnce over here? Why don't we want to discuss this?
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Three words to you mate, New Zealand Rugby. You know
this is just what they do. They don't want to
give us any details. Sometimes they might be backed into
a corner and have to give us something. But I
mean it is very much and it's a private organization
that can conduct themselves however they want. But they're going
to keep the stuff behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I mean, it's none of our business, is it. You
don't tell me what you and do you?
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Oh I can do offer, can you?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's against your contract conditions. Apparently you're not allowed to.
That's what I always say. Anyway, I suppose to New
Zealand Cricket are are pretty open with what they do
and how their contract structure works. But yeah, there's something
quite I'm hiding over here about New Zealand Rugby.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Yeah, don't look over here, look over there.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Let's move on to the Paralympics alex gets under way today,
a couple of weeks after the Olympic Games. The order
is interesting. It can't be held together. They simply can't
do it. It's money, it's room, it's time, it's everything else.
Does it does it feel like an afterthought the Paralympics
coming out a couple of weeks after the fun and
games of the Olympics.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
I mean, I think we're kind of a but backed
into a corner. Whatever we look at, it's either gonna
be an afterthought or it's going to be a warm up.
And like I mean, this does deserve to be a
standalone event, you know, I think that's probably part of
the issue with the perception of the Paralympics, is that
we look at it as being related to the Olympics.
It should be its own, standlone event. And whether or
not that means you have to do it outside of
a separate cycle where you have, like almost with the
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commonal fans, we'd have the Olympics one, you're in the
Paralympics another, or whether or not you do look at
where it's staged. I'm not sure, but I think it
definitely does fall into that sort of vacuum of being
the Olympics, and that's not what the Paralympics is.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, it's normostly important the Paralympics for the Paralympic community,
representing what they stand for and their efforts. When you
start watching it quite stunning as far as an exercise
in humanity is concerned. It's really quite remarkable what these
athletes go through and how they get to the top
of their trade.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I mean, you look at what most Paralympians have to do,
a lot of them are Amichy. You know, the funding
falls outside of Sport New Zealand or NZC. So I
mean you look at some of these Olympians and the
great stories we hear before he has the Paralympanzer just
as good, if not better.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So many hurdles, haven't they to actually get across, but
they carry on And I think as far as an
example is concerned, it's really important because there are a
lot of people out there who I won't say suffer,
but a lot of people out there who fall into
that category, and to have these heroes hugely important.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, let's move on to our next subject, which is
fight sport. I'll fight sport. Jerome Pampalone having a go
the Sevenings, try and get going into a title fight
at some stage. But we look at the strength of
fight sports here, City kickboxing, planing with the EMMA, and
then you look at all the boxes right up and
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down all of the divisions. What is it about fight
sport over here? What drags you into it?
Speaker 8 (17:59):
I mean, I think the fact that we're just really good.
We know you look back, you know, at the moment
we say you've got your own Pampalone, he probably has
looked up to Joseph. Joseph Parker was able to look
up to David too. You know, you go back and
back and back, and there's always someone standing at the
front that guys can look up to. I mean and
girls as well. You look at what me and Maltwo's
doing at the moment, Lanny Daniels, you know, having though
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you know what's saying, you can't be what you can't see.
And I think Keywis for a long time have been
really blessed that we do have fighters to look at
and go, yeah, I want to be like you.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Sky aren't carrying the footage tonight. You're going to have
to find a stream somewhere. How legal or illegal that is.
I've got no idea, but does that are they dropping
the ball around this considering what people think of the
fight game? Or am I just living in a dream
world think and everybody loves it?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
I think it's a bit of column. Add a bit
of column. Beef. Sports rights are incredibly complicated in twenty
twenty four. Sky are a very calculated organization and how
they pick up rights and how they stream them.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
It's not a charity, is it.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
It's not a charity. It is a business. And like
all media companies, Sky are going to be struggling at
the moment, you know, just like we're probably struggling all
things admitted. So if they've come to a major decision,
does this event have what we would need to fill
our business obligations? Probably not, Then they're not going to
stream it or show it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Even What about power slat Alex Powell? Do you see
that getting any foothold or a handhold over here? And
this is an insane sport if you can call it
a sport.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Right, it's absolutely wild. I got shown a clip of
it outside of the office right before we came in
to do this. Thank you producer Andy. It's one of
those things, isn't it that we'll just you'd hope it
doesn't take off, but there's going to be someone out
there just whacking each other to try and get this
upper level.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Thank you very much for not hurting me too much
out of this. On the Lean Alex Powell, digital editor
of the New Zealand Herald. This is the Fix.
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
Why Hello there, and welcome on into Sports Fix, your
daily podcast for all the sport you need to know
about and some of you probably don't. My name is
Darcy Waltergrave. It's a Wednesday. It's the twenty eighth of
August twenty twenty four. Lined up in today's program, Jerome
Pampalone fights tonight. It is an eliminate about to hopefully
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get a shot at the IBF world title in the
light heavyweights. Isaac Peach joins us. He is the coach
demand charged with making sure Jerome gets it right this
time around after our defeat last time. Who's he fighting?
It's Connor Wallace tonight the IBF eliminator final. Peach up next.
After that, well, I'm going to have a few words
(01:05):
around the nature of payouts in sport. You know that
Leo McDonald's been given a rather handsome handshake. Now they
is departed the All Black camp? What does that mean
for the All Blacks and New Zealander Rugby and will
be joined in studio on the Lena by Alex Powell.
Alex is the digital sport editor for The New Zealand Hill.
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That's what we're up to, let's do it now. In
other news bouncing around the sporting stratosphere today, football firms
at striker Grace Yale hopes she can take a game
to the next level upon her return to the Wellington
Phoenix and the A League. The twenty five year old
who led the next and scoring during their debut twenty
(01:48):
one to twenty two campaign, is determined to express herself
in the upcoming season.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I guess playing with freedom and confidence for me personally,
I think that I should be confident enough by now
having three seasons in the A League and I know
what to expect.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Boxer Jerome Pampa and wants the show. He's still a
contender in the light heavyweight division as he takes on
the Australian Foreign Island Connor Wallace and an IBF title
eliminator in Sydney tonight. It's the London born Key was
second eliminator fight after suffering his first professional loss to
Malik Zanard back in April.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think it shows a lot about me as a fighter.
That I just want to fight the best and be
the best.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
So we've never got a tough opponent in Connor Wallace
in front of us as I'm ready for.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
No concerns from the spring box over there depth at Locke.
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Speaker 5 (02:58):
We've got some good depth term of guys that have
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a good game in the last team. It's always been
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a great opportunity to see the quality and the new
for the next day.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
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Speaker 3 (03:23):
Talks, IVY, Huge Night and Combat Sports Tonight Boxing particularly
in the Squared Circle. We're joined now by Isaac Peach.
Of course, the trainer behind a man who is close
to a world title fight. Jerome Pampalone is our man.
Tonight he takes on Connor Wallace in a world title eliminator. Isaac,
(03:44):
Welcome to the program. First up, just describe the energy
and darling harbor leading up to a fight like that.
What what's it like, palpable? I'm presuming yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
I mean, today's pretty quiet because it's kind of come
before the storm. But the last few days been pretty busy.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
It's a full house here. It's a big fight, man.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Huge fight. So in the lead up, so today's pretty quiet.
You need a bit of time to breathe, and I
suppose master your thoughts. Is that standard in the fight game?
You have that calm?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is you always like that? Man?
Speaker 6 (04:13):
Usually a couple of days before everyone's spelting around and
everyone's excited and voiceous, and then day of the fight
it's quite quiet. Everyone's kind of kitching themselves.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
And then we get in there and perform. Right, So
what's Drone been specifically? What had been working on with
him and the leader after what happened last time around
is oh went he had that loss that up against
Mullick Zanard, So what have you been focusing on. Do
you look back much to that exchange, Isaac?
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, Look, we've got our best to pick up our game.
I mean, we've tried to better ourselves in all areas.
We didn't really step up last time. We only just
lost a world class guy, but it wasn't good enough.
And we've worked on all the one percenters just to
get over the line.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
And this time.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
You always say it with your guys, but I really
felt drones at his beds and I'm bloody excited for
tonight and we've worked really hard. We've had a great camp.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Looking back to that fight and that loss. You say
the one per centers, what particularly was it work inside?
Was it outside? Was controlling the fight? Was it getting
in the corner, staying in the middle? What did you
actually look like? What did you look at? But that
particular fight where you think one of those one percent
didn't quite hit the mark.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Well, there's a few things, man like we hit that
mu legs and abel shots felt and killed a guy and
he smiled at us so as ally as popping out
of his heads. We've got some queries on what was
going on regarding drugs that night. If you go rewatch
the fight, you see what I mean. But also he
had a good game plan. They had a good good
game plan. They keep us away, they keep us on
the end of the jab. Jerome got staying with a
few shots that heard him and gave him a bit
(05:44):
of a glaze. And we couldn't couldn't quite get there.
In this game, when you get to the top level,
if you're not quite there, you're not going to win.
So we put a lot out of it. We got
twelve hard rounds and Dromes have been quite aflore it.
We're not going to make those mistakes.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Hope not.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Hey go back to what you said about the drug accusation.
Have you gone any further with that? What's the grounding,
what's the basis on that? What's being done?
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Just a room and all that was going around where
we were, But I mean, and we can't control that.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
These guys dot paper coasting. So yeah, that you got
through now. Connor Wallace described the man in the other corner.
What does he got what thirteen and one? So plainly
he's got whiskers, he can take a shot. What else
do you know about him?
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Oh, it's good, he's Irish's a he's a really good
self poor. He's all good self poor. He's had a
lot of amateur fights. He's the top right everyweight in
the side of the world. We think dromers and it's
a world class pipe mans when I fights for a
world title. So look, we know what we're up against.
But I think Jerome's best slight eavyweight, honest day in
(06:43):
the world, and I need to get the best derme
to win this fight, and i think I've got it
right now.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
As far as the crowd goes, a lot of people there,
I'm presuming most of them will be barracking for Jerome,
being that he's you know, he's an Anzac, he's from
the Southern heman's feet well, he represents the Southern fear
even though it's a north Port.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
The guy who lives in Australia, he's got big Irish support.
No one wants us to win on the go from
as well. So we've been treated like shit, to be
honest with you, So we're going to go shove up
every bath to here and we're really motivated and we've
got no time for anyone in the super Country. We're
coming to rub it in their face and.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
It's what kind of crew have you got to be?
You've got a big posse that's over there helping out yourself,
your trainers the like as well. Entourage there, Isaac. No,
we don't do that way. We roll alone, so we
cow it's rolling groups.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
We roll alone.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
We've got me Jerome, my brother usually here, but he's
actually had an operation, so it's me and my brother. Sorry,
it's me Jerome and my wife. And we've got a doctor,
doctor Sam here to do the cats.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
That's all we got.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
What is what the rise and rise of fight sport
in this country? Isaac? What do you put it down to?
We've got Joe Parker right at the top, and the heavyweights.
You look right across city kickboxing, what's happening there with
mixed martial art? Of course, Jerome and Caleb. It's the
list goes on. It's really surging. What do you put
that down to? Why are we suddenly so good and
so interested in this sport?
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Are there some people in the sport that have given
these guys some direction? To doc Man, We've got a
we've got a country of athletes. I think it's it's
always been like that. What New Zealand and put their
mind to that good out right. We've got to rugby.
We're good at rowing, We're going to We've got all
sorts of sports, so we'll put our mind to a
bit of fighting. We're good of that too. So I
think we've got a pretty amazing country and quite a
lot of ability down here.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I think that's the truth of it.
Speaker 6 (08:21):
I think if you look over all sports New Zealander
populations for the best in the world, what about.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Access on on TV or online. People have got access
to it now, so they're really starting to buy in
because they can actually see it whenever they want. That's
got to be a contributing factor. Surely the fan base
and the potential are to make some coin too.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
I don't know, man, to be honest with, you're tired.
I think the biggest letdown in New Zealander is we
don't fill stadiums. You go to the place in the
world and everyone gets behind it.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
In New Zealand, it's quiet.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
We've got the ability of the fighters and the athletes,
but trying to get people along to support your fighters
and sponsorships, that's really hard. And if we can get
if we can improve on that, it would make life a.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
Whole lot easier.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Look, look TV doesn't get behind us man Skuy's not
even put in beside. It's disgusting. I have sky TV
putting on a little eliminated for one of our young athletes.
It's just I'm speechless.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
What do you think people enjoy watching it? What's the
attraction with fight sport me or boxing at any weight level?
Speaker 6 (09:22):
What's the attraction the attraction fights for someone can get hurt.
It sounds silly, but it's got that X factor, right,
It's not a game of tennis. When you lose it,
it's dangerous. It's got all those all those X factors
that people like. I mean, it's human nature's right. Back
in the day, I've always liked watching violent threat, So
I think it's that. But it's controlled violence, and I
think it's always been something people want.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Hey, what about power slap Dana watch New Invention? Have
you have you seen that? Do you think that's got
any any traction to be made over here? Because I
think it's only in Nevada you're actually allowed to do
it because it's so brutal.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
Is that the slapping on the faces.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That's the one where they basically stand there right disgusting.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
I think it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard in
my life. You want to see your brain damage and
that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. It's not even
a sport. What are you going to do? I think
it's brutal and it's done, and you're going to have
a whole lot of kids doing it at school, and
I think it's dangerous. And one second time for that.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Grip and I agree completely it's insane. And on that
we'll let you get on with your preparation. Hey, Whorish jeron,
the best of luck from all of us here at
News Talks eb and hopefully we can take it a
gaze at it somehow of an evening. Isaac Peach, thanks
for your time, my friend.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
No worries Man, Well, we went in from New Zealand
TONIGHTMA were shoving up these Aussies in the Irish think.
Speaker 7 (10:34):
You this is sportsfix your daily does of sports news?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
How in News Talks EBB.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
No, we don't know how much Leon McDonald is being
paid out. We never will employment issues. Why would they
share such sensitive and delicate information, Although when you look
over to the United States of America, and you look
to England and you look to football players. We really
do have a much better idea about what kind of
(11:04):
money these characters are earning. We're not going to find
out here. It's something about the psyche of New Zealand.
No one wants to tell anyone else what they earn,
so all people can do is hazard a guess as
to how much money people earn and in turn how
much money it costs people like inns it are to
cancel a contract. It's looking like Leam McDonald is getting
(11:26):
a two year pay it it is a four year contract,
so I'm presuming that makes sink. You've got to remember
as well, we had Brad More, we had John Plumtree
also acts halfway through their contract now INSI are don't
have a lot of money. We know this. They've sold
their soul to Silverlate to try and generate more. All
sorts of ruckus going on with provincial rugby, Super Rugby
(11:48):
and at the top level about how much gets paid
to these players and how much money is actually in
New Zealand. We know we can't keep a lot of
the top players coming to the end of their career
over here because the cash isn't there. They can go
to Japan, they can go to France, they go anywhere
and then make a pile more money. And that's fine
Zr's case, though, You've got a look and I hate
(12:11):
to go back to this again, but I will at
the due diligence around them poying someone like Leon McDonald,
because not only was it an embarrassment for Scott Robertson,
an embarrassment for the All Blacks and n z are,
it's also going to cost them an arm and a leg.
And I don't think there's going to be a replacement
for Leon McDonald while they're busy paying his bill. So
(12:33):
if anything taken out of that any dare I say
it learnings your due diligence is very important. ZEDR. Haven't
got money to burn in a situation like this. We're
not talking small beans. We're talking a large sum of money.
And I think that not only the embarrassment but also
the financial punch in the face was hardly worth it.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
The Chamber is now in session on sports Vex.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And it's warmut Welcome to the comfort of the Leaner.
To Alex Powell, digital sports editor from New Zealand. To
Hero midweek madness made. How are you good?
Speaker 8 (13:10):
May think you having me back after all this time.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Well, it's nice to have you here. Look, I tell
you what. There's a tussle, there's jostling to get on
this program, but we always appreciate your import Right, let's
look at the stories of the day. Leo McDonald has
been given a sack of gold, more rice than he
can eat. I mean, I don't know what they gave him.
No one really does know, but there is conjecture out
there based.
Speaker 8 (13:32):
On well, I mean, all the reporting revolves around this
figure of a two year payout, you know, which we
understand to be halfway through a four year deal, as
they do with these contracts. But that just adds up
that he's been sacked.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
And that's the nature of that. It's employment contracts. No
one's ever going to know, are we. All we can
do is throw ideas around fair and right.
Speaker 8 (13:51):
Well, I mean, Unlesli McDonald comes out and says this
is what's happened. But I mean he's a very private guy.
He hates the media, he hates talking. So I mean,
I think we're just going to have to stick with
what we've got so far.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, so if we expand on that and you say
you'll claim that he may actually been removed or how
do you marry that up? Is that because people just
don't pay out if they leaded their own volition.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
Well, mean it's a settlement, isn't it. The fact that
we never we still haven't heard from Leo McDonald through
all the ends at our channels, for me speaks volume.
Scott robertson front foot at chrysal Dendrum, New Zealand Rugby's
head a professional rugby front fort of it. We are
yet to hear from Leon and like I said, I
don't think we ever will.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yeah, and I suppose when you look toward and I
had to keep saying, but oh well, the due diligence,
not really knowing where he was at and then suddenly
you faced wherever it came from. With this huge payout,
Rugby just can't afford to do this.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
Well, on top of sacking plum Tree and more a
couple of years ago, this is just another one. It's
good things coming three is bad things coming three. This
is the third coach sacked.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
It's interesting when you look at what we do and
don't know around coaches and sports people and what they
sign up for. This is very close chop here in
New Zealand. But you look to the British football for example,
you look to American basketball and football. It's all out
there for everybody to see. What is it with the
redisnce over here? Why don't we want to discuss this?
Speaker 8 (15:10):
Three words to you mate, New Zealand Rugby. You know
this is just what they do. They don't want to
give us any details. Sometimes they might be backed into
a corner and have to give us something. But I
mean it is very much and it's a private organization
that can conduct themselves however they want. But they're going
to keep the stuff behind closed doors.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
I mean, it's none of our business, is it. You
don't tell me what you and do you?
Speaker 8 (15:28):
Oh I can do offer, can you?
Speaker 3 (15:30):
It's against your contract conditions. Apparently you're not allowed to.
That's what I always say. Anyway, I suppose to New
Zealand Cricket are are pretty open with what they do
and how their contract structure works. But yeah, there's something
quite I'm hiding over here about New Zealand Rugby.
Speaker 8 (15:43):
Yeah, don't look over here, look over there.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Let's move on to the Paralympics alex gets under way today,
a couple of weeks after the Olympic Games. The order
is interesting. It can't be held together. They simply can't
do it. It's money, it's room, it's time, it's everything else.
Does it does it feel like an afterthought the Paralympics
coming out a couple of weeks after the fun and
games of the Olympics.
Speaker 8 (16:06):
I mean, I think we're kind of a but backed
into a corner. Whatever we look at, it's either gonna
be an afterthought or it's going to be a warm up.
And like I mean, this does deserve to be a
standalone event, you know, I think that's probably part of
the issue with the perception of the Paralympics, is that
we look at it as being related to the Olympics.
It should be its own, standlone event. And whether or
not that means you have to do it outside of
a separate cycle where you have, like almost with the
(16:28):
commonal fans, we'd have the Olympics one, you're in the
Paralympics another, or whether or not you do look at
where it's staged. I'm not sure, but I think it
definitely does fall into that sort of vacuum of being
the Olympics, and that's not what the Paralympics is.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Well, it's normostly important the Paralympics for the Paralympic community,
representing what they stand for and their efforts. When you
start watching it quite stunning as far as an exercise
in humanity is concerned. It's really quite remarkable what these
athletes go through and how they get to the top
of their trade.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I mean, you look at what most Paralympians have to do,
a lot of them are Amichy. You know, the funding
falls outside of Sport New Zealand or NZC. So I
mean you look at some of these Olympians and the
great stories we hear before he has the Paralympanzer just
as good, if not better.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So many hurdles, haven't they to actually get across, but
they carry on And I think as far as an
example is concerned, it's really important because there are a
lot of people out there who I won't say suffer,
but a lot of people out there who fall into
that category, and to have these heroes hugely important.
Speaker 8 (17:34):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah, let's move on to our next subject, which is
fight sport. I'll fight sport. Jerome Pampalone having a go
the Sevenings, try and get going into a title fight
at some stage. But we look at the strength of
fight sports here, City kickboxing, planing with the EMMA, and
then you look at all the boxes right up and
(17:55):
down all of the divisions. What is it about fight
sport over here? What drags you into it?
Speaker 8 (17:59):
I mean, I think the fact that we're just really good.
We know you look back, you know, at the moment
we say you've got your own Pampalone, he probably has
looked up to Joseph. Joseph Parker was able to look
up to David too. You know, you go back and
back and back, and there's always someone standing at the
front that guys can look up to. I mean and
girls as well. You look at what me and Maltwo's
doing at the moment, Lanny Daniels, you know, having though
(18:22):
you know what's saying, you can't be what you can't see.
And I think Keywis for a long time have been
really blessed that we do have fighters to look at
and go, yeah, I want to be like you.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Sky aren't carrying the footage tonight. You're going to have
to find a stream somewhere. How legal or illegal that is.
I've got no idea, but does that are they dropping
the ball around this considering what people think of the
fight game? Or am I just living in a dream
world think and everybody loves it?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
I think it's a bit of column. Add a bit
of column. Beef. Sports rights are incredibly complicated in twenty
twenty four. Sky are a very calculated organization and how
they pick up rights and how they stream them.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
It's not a charity, is it.
Speaker 8 (18:59):
It's not a charity. It is a business. And like
all media companies, Sky are going to be struggling at
the moment, you know, just like we're probably struggling all
things admitted. So if they've come to a major decision,
does this event have what we would need to fill
our business obligations? Probably not, Then they're not going to
stream it or show it.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Even What about power slat Alex Powell? Do you see
that getting any foothold or a handhold over here? And
this is an insane sport if you can call it
a sport.
Speaker 8 (19:26):
Right, it's absolutely wild. I got shown a clip of
it outside of the office right before we came in
to do this. Thank you producer Andy. It's one of
those things, isn't it that we'll just you'd hope it
doesn't take off, but there's going to be someone out
there just whacking each other to try and get this
upper level.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Thank you very much for not hurting me too much
out of this. On the Lean Alex Powell, digital editor
of the New Zealand Herald. This is the Fix.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
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