January 28, 2025 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Tuesday 28 January 2025, former All Blacks Sevens coach Sir Gordon Tietjens talks about the team's historic loss to Uruguay at the Perth SVNS over the weekend - should we be surprised?
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on why we need to stop talking about Eden Park.
Plus, Newstalk ZB sports journalist Natham Limm joins the panel to discuss the outrageous money spent on race horses.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome on into the Sports Fixed podcast. When it's Darcy
Walter Grave. It is the twenty eighth of January twenty
twenty five. Here it is you bite size home of
all the good news sports stories are on some terrible
ones as well from time to time, all wrapped up
for you to digest at your leisure. Coming up on
today's show, I'll be joined by Sir Gordon Tittons you
(00:43):
may have heard of him before and absolute Colossus and
the wide World of seven's. The Perth event was over
on the weekend. Terrific final for the women, but the men,
But the men. We'll talk all about that with Gordon. Shortly,
Nathan Lynn joins us in the studio to debate some
of the big sports topics of the day. Nathan, of
course the journalists for News Talk z B oh the
(01:05):
stadium debate not again really, we're still going on about that. Yeah,
I got some thoughts about I'll share those with you too.
That is our plan. So let's get.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Going in other news.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And in Sport today, returning Warrior Aaron Clark managed to
corner to Harris before the retiring captain legged it and
valuable it was for Clark, the middle Ford who is
backup Mount Smart after plying his NROL trade on the
Gold Coast.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I kind of click with when I came, picked his
brain as much as I could. I didn't know that
was coming, so I'm happy I learned as much as
I could from Tahu. But like everyone's saying, you see
how good he is on the paddle, the way he
trains and the skill City has, it's definitely going to
be missed here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Fleet footed Tiewee sprinter Town well then, fresh from his
demo job on Manew Zealand sixty meter record, knows why
he's got quicker put it down to his new coach,
the hugely respected Angus Ross.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
He's one of the top est and c's in the country,
probably one of the top sprint biomechanists in and season
the world, to be fears. He's published quite a few
really good papers and I think he's pretty well revered
around the world. So to have a guy like that
on your team is truly unreal, you know, he's real
outside the box thinker and.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Football ferns in from gaffer Michael Maine is all about
internal competition as the team start their journey toward the
twenty twenty seven World Cup. This year's campaign begins with
two friendlies versus Costa Rica and San Jose next month.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I'm in the challenge of making sure the buildings and
dips in the teas and competition and this team. So
I think there's a there's a real opportunity here. I
guess showcase some some play that maybe have been in
the squad previously and some that may be new to
the squad.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Leading a vix. We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Fix.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it's a warm welcome to Sir Gordon Titton's the
sevens coach with the most. He joins now to discuss
the state of the game. Taking into consideration that the
All Black Sevens got beaten by Uruguay over in Perth.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
You yeah, do I see how you're going?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm going very very well, a little shocked, maybe not
shockn or, but having Uruguay not only beat New Zealand
but beatg in Perth. Sevens. It's the world's changing, is it?
Not should we be really freaked out by this? Is
there a panic button to be hit?
Speaker 7 (03:30):
I don't think they have hit a panic button to
be to start pressing. I think, well, on any any
given day, and if you look at the twelve teams
that are currently in the World Series, on their day,
any team can be any team. The men's competition is very,
very competitive, and Uruguay was one of those teams that
performed exceedingly well in the Challenger Series last year to
(03:51):
qualify for the World Series. Kenya was another one of
those teams that pushed New Zealand very very close as well,
you know, and they're putting a lot of more emphasis
perhaps should I say, and perhaps what we are and
we gave us sevens. I mean, they're centrally based in
their countries. They worked tremendously hard. They worked particularly hard
to qualify for the World Series. Now they're in there
(04:14):
and they want to stay there. And you look at
the Spanish team. The Spanish team is actually co leaders
in the World Series at the moment, there's four of
them sitting on I think forty eight points or something
like that, and which we're tweet TG and who would
have thought that Spain would be at the top of
that ladder now, and they.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Are so resource wise you said, they're pouring a lot
at it. Some of these countries, can you saill not
keep up with that? Or they haven't got what is
required to keep up with that. They've caught up and
we can't go any further. Is that seem to see
what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Oh no, that's certainly, you know, in terms of the
analysis done on the other sevens every yes and see
coach put they emphasise in different ways are supposed to
get the best out of their players. And I've always
said our game is based around conditioning, you know, And
there's a lot of series around players being over worked
now and I think, honestly, it's a game that's your
(05:07):
challenged mentally and you're challenged physically if you want to
be the best. And I look at our side and
I just we just don't have that same emphasis on
the sevens game. And I say that because we have
no national tournament. Now, where do the players once I've
finished with the Condor sevens, because the Condor sevens is
(05:28):
really the only tournament and our secondary school players that
we have, you know, of any of any standing, I suppose,
and that's where we go and look as coaches to
try and find the next youngster to come to your
work seven seam. But when we had the Queenstown sevens,
the provincial sevens, Northern regions, Southern regions, you know we can't.
They started to give players perhaps some hope of making
(05:50):
the national side. But we don't have that now, so
they go to the feeds.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And this is a pathway situation essentially, is what you're saying.
You get to a particular and you stop, you can't
go any further. Who holds ultimate responsibility for that?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Gordon, Wow, he's in a rugby unit. I mean when
you look at it from the World Series, and I
know that in the World Series they've lost a billion dollars.
I think just in the World Series alone. Going through
the tournaments, I've reduced it from I think twelve tournaments
to seven tournaments. Now there's no sevens that becoming wealth games.
(06:23):
So a lot of players, you know, and in the
women's case, some of them are going off the league.
Some of the players here now I got to put
more emphasis into being a fifteen a side player. So
it's just it's set across Rays the o believer at
a cross raids on how do we because we're still
in the Olympics sports and for a lot of players
(06:43):
out there their dreamers to be an Olympian. I mean,
I look at the Australian women's team. You know, they
lost their two best players and the tournament just in
the record weekend in Perth. And they've got all these
new young players that they're bringing through. They've got quite
a good system in Australia now. And of course they
turned around, but our backburn sevens, you know in a
(07:04):
great final.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It was a final. It was outrageous. It was stuff,
it really was, and right about the two of the
best players not then, so they've got.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
That a new nineteen year old out on the wing there. Look,
she's a tremendous got player or the final you know.
And but so they're doing something in Australia that's bringing
a lot of players through with a lot of depth.
You know, we're going to lose a few of our
players out of the Black ben seven soon, certainly at
the end of this horse here is because some of
them are going off the league and they may come
(07:34):
back during the Olympic years or something. Perhaps I don't know,
but I know for instance, in the men's program it's
it's tough at the moment and when you lose to
teams like you know, Uruguay and they turn around a
beat FG as well, it sort of says something that
there is a lot of countries wanting more emphasis into
the game of sevens and they are a danger. Let's
(07:55):
face at South Africa. Sorry, Agentcina won the tournament the
weekend comfortably, very easily. They won the final what forty
odd points against Australia.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
There's always so Gordon Tenchens joins that there's always been
an arm wrestle obvious or underlying between ends are internally
with sevens versus fifteens? Is there much more of a
golf now, do you think? Which is why they just
don't have those pathwords, all the pathways. The focus is
solely on the fifteens and the sevens again being left
(08:24):
poor cousins.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
It is well and I suppose as I go back
to my time back in the day, I suppose it
be so to put it that way, was with a
lot of players that they used the sevens game as
a launching pad to go on to be a super
rugby player, they'd be coming all back, you know. And
to me, that's how it should still be. There should
be still opportunities there. And I'm not saying that we
(08:48):
haven't got the I just don't believe we've got the
depth at the moment. We lost a lot of good
players and Scott Curry finished up, Sam Dixon finished up.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
That's just all finished up at the same time, and
we should have been developing newer players around that time
before they finished up. Then there was some players coming
through and that's how we used to do it. But
now they all finished at the same time, which has
made it pretty tough. So we've got a relatively young
and experienced team and a serious of the moment except
for two or three of them that have got a
(09:23):
number of gentlemens have of their belt.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So good intentions. Thanks very much for your time. You
have a tremendous twenty five mate. Go well.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Sheers douzy, Thank you mate.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
This is Sports Figs, You're daily dose of sports news
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Speaker 2 (09:39):
Here we go again, the old Auckland Stadium debate. It
rears its ugly head from time to time, possibly when
there's no sports news floating around, and it's always the
same old story. It's as predictable as in winter, a
breathless reporter standing in the snow, going wow, it's cold
(09:59):
and wet. It's as predictable as road cones right the
way throughout Auckland City. It's predictable as well. It's just predictable.
I would love a new stadium. We would all love
a new stadium, I'm sure of that. A shining light,
a beacon and icon and almost Sydney opera house like
(10:20):
edifice standing on the water to match the Harbor Bridge,
to match the skytower, announcing Auckland as a gateway, this
huge city in the South Pacific, welcoming everybody to our shores.
But it's not going to happen, and the arguments will
carry on, the proposals will carry on, Investors money from.
(10:41):
I don't know where it will turn up. From time
to time there'll be sharp suited, fast talking businessmen desperate
to be the people behind the establishment of something as
extraordinary as Key Park. We've got to understand one thing, though.
As sure as Auckland's traffic is thick and unpredictable, this
(11:02):
will never get over the line, and if it does,
I'll be long dead and be there's probably even a
better chance before that. The Warrior is winning the NRL.
The money is immense. No one's going to pay for that,
The resource consent is ridiculous. Who actually wants to wait
for that? And while they are the price gets higher
(11:24):
and higher and higher. In the meantime, the grand old
Lady of Eden Park remains where it keeps doing what
it's done for decades and decades and decades, And you
know what, I'm pretty content with. That may not be perfect,
but it's perfect for us.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
In the Chamber we go. Nathan Limb, a sports journalist
for News Talks e B joins us, now get a.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Made, did I, Darcy?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Were you shocked and twisted when Uruguay? We shouldn't be laughing,
But what was your first reaction after that happened?
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Yeah? I watched that game, and to be honest, I
wasn't super rocked by it. And I'll tell you why.
Sevens is the way rugby is growing on a global
scale with all of these smaller nations, and because sevens
there are so many tournaments throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This was going to happen. It just was going to happen.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
And I don't think we can go around and just say, oh,
we just had an absolute mey Uruguay minnows.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
This should never happen because.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Like hours before that, so there was the potential for
this to happen. And the All Black Sevens are not
the same beasts that they were in years gone by.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
On what's going on here is it's coaching as a resources,
as the man power that they haven't got that have
gone after the fifteens version.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
What's changing potentially.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I mean, I think that a few years ago, maybe
you would have been able to name a few more players.
You know that there'll be a few more household names
I suppose you'd say in the All Black Sevens group.
But I also think this is one of those things
where we can't overreact and we can't overthink it. Because
the smaller nations around the world, given the for the
(13:18):
professionalism of the sport, the number of competitions the Olympics,
that obviously sevens now has a presence.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
In the Olympics.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
This was all the other smaller nations were always going
to rise up and sevens is a game similar to
T twenty cricket, where it's very short, it's very sharp.
We cannot expect a one hundred percent success rate, and
this sort of thing was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It was if we got absolutely drubbed by them.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Goes on. This has affected you.
Speaker 8 (13:47):
If we were given an absolute drubbing, then you could
maybe say, okay, there is there is there a real
issue here, but a tight loss.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'm not going to overthink it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And is it fair to say that basically it's an
Olympic sport now and we're kind of interested, but it's
when the Olympics come around that people start buying into sevens.
It's not even here anymore. Out of sight, out of mind.
I think it's just detached from the rugby populace of
this country.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I think it is.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I don't think that that means it's going to be
taken any less seriously from the people.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Who are actually involved.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
But in terms of a punter's perspective, the everyday New
Zealand on the street, yes, it's going to be further
out of the minds. We don't have it here a
lot of the time when they're playing these tournaments it's
in the middle of the night, so we're not watching it,
we're just sort of hearing the results. So yeah, one
hundred percent, I'd say that there's a disconnect from that
part of the game in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now I saw that, then I thought, it's all right,
the Wahani are coming up there. Great. At seven's football
for women is arguably a better game to watch. It's
not about running over people, it's about running into gaps.
It really is. I find it fascinating. And that last game,
that final, good on your Australia for winning it, but
(14:58):
that was epic. And how amusing is that MaKayla's last
name is now Break, which is one of the fastest
women we'll ever see. Break Break, No accelerate more. Enough already,
let's move away from the sevens and let's move to
the wonderment of a two and a half million dollar horse.
You're not really a horse kind of guy, are you?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
No?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
No, I'm a guy kind of guy, but I yeah,
this is.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It's big money. It's a big money industry.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Is the point four million dollars for a horse for
a nag It's a record for a philly at Karaka
it seems insane, but it isn't.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, it seems like a hell of a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Obviously the sister of Orchestral who's had a lot of
success in recent times.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's a sport based off genetics, So I.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Suppose that this sort of success you'd think would run
in the families of these horses.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
So if one's.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Having a lot of success, like the Barrett brothers, you
look to the others. You'd look to the others and think, oh,
maybe maybe they'd be good, and sometimes they sometimes they are.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
What if this horse is like the fourth Barrett.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
Yeah, came Will Whimson has a twin brother, doesn't he?
We see why didn't he come back five for the
black Caps.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So maybe it's not just genetic but something else. But look,
this is a great time for all and they'll breed
this horse and make a whole lot more in two
point four movie.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Even even if this horse isn't as successful as the sister,
they still still have the same genetics, so breed it
and potentially.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Give an even better vision.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Good on you.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Nathan limb Jeers does dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome on into the Sports Fixed podcast. When it's Darcy
Walter Grave. It is the twenty eighth of January twenty
twenty five. Here it is you bite size home of
all the good news sports stories are on some terrible
ones as well from time to time, all wrapped up
for you to digest at your leisure. Coming up on
today's show, I'll be joined by Sir Gordon Tittons you
(00:43):
may have heard of him before and absolute Colossus and
the wide World of seven's. The Perth event was over
on the weekend. Terrific final for the women, but the men,
But the men. We'll talk all about that with Gordon. Shortly,
Nathan Lynn joins us in the studio to debate some
of the big sports topics of the day. Nathan, of
course the journalists for News Talk z B oh the
(01:05):
stadium debate not again really, we're still going on about that. Yeah,
I got some thoughts about I'll share those with you too.
That is our plan. So let's get.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Going in other news.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And in Sport today, returning Warrior Aaron Clark managed to
corner to Harris before the retiring captain legged it and
valuable it was for Clark, the middle Ford who is
backup Mount Smart after plying his NROL trade on the
Gold Coast.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
I kind of click with when I came, picked his
brain as much as I could. I didn't know that
was coming, so I'm happy I learned as much as
I could from Tahu. But like everyone's saying, you see
how good he is on the paddle, the way he
trains and the skill City has, it's definitely going to
be missed here.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Fleet footed Tiewee sprinter Town well then, fresh from his
demo job on Manew Zealand sixty meter record, knows why
he's got quicker put it down to his new coach,
the hugely respected Angus Ross.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
He's one of the top est and c's in the country,
probably one of the top sprint biomechanists in and season
the world, to be fears. He's published quite a few
really good papers and I think he's pretty well revered
around the world. So to have a guy like that
on your team is truly unreal, you know, he's real
outside the box thinker and.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Football ferns in from gaffer Michael Maine is all about
internal competition as the team start their journey toward the
twenty twenty seven World Cup. This year's campaign begins with
two friendlies versus Costa Rica and San Jose next month.
Speaker 6 (02:32):
I'm in the challenge of making sure the buildings and
dips in the teas and competition and this team. So
I think there's a there's a real opportunity here. I
guess showcase some some play that maybe have been in
the squad previously and some that may be new to
the squad.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Leading a vix. We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Fix.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
And it's a warm welcome to Sir Gordon Titton's the
sevens coach with the most. He joins now to discuss
the state of the game. Taking into consideration that the
All Black Sevens got beaten by Uruguay over in Perth.
Speaker 7 (03:12):
You yeah, do I see how you're going?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
I'm going very very well, a little shocked, maybe not
shockn or, but having Uruguay not only beat New Zealand
but beatg in Perth. Sevens. It's the world's changing, is it?
Not should we be really freaked out by this? Is
there a panic button to be hit?
Speaker 7 (03:30):
I don't think they have hit a panic button to
be to start pressing. I think, well, on any any
given day, and if you look at the twelve teams
that are currently in the World Series, on their day,
any team can be any team. The men's competition is very,
very competitive, and Uruguay was one of those teams that
performed exceedingly well in the Challenger Series last year to
(03:51):
qualify for the World Series. Kenya was another one of
those teams that pushed New Zealand very very close as well,
you know, and they're putting a lot of more emphasis
perhaps should I say, and perhaps what we are and
we gave us sevens. I mean, they're centrally based in
their countries. They worked tremendously hard. They worked particularly hard
to qualify for the World Series. Now they're in there
(04:14):
and they want to stay there. And you look at
the Spanish team. The Spanish team is actually co leaders
in the World Series at the moment, there's four of
them sitting on I think forty eight points or something
like that, and which we're tweet TG and who would
have thought that Spain would be at the top of
that ladder now, and they.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Are so resource wise you said, they're pouring a lot
at it. Some of these countries, can you saill not
keep up with that? Or they haven't got what is
required to keep up with that. They've caught up and
we can't go any further. Is that seem to see
what you're saying.
Speaker 7 (04:45):
Oh no, that's certainly, you know, in terms of the
analysis done on the other sevens every yes and see
coach put they emphasise in different ways are supposed to
get the best out of their players. And I've always
said our game is based around conditioning, you know, And
there's a lot of series around players being over worked
now and I think, honestly, it's a game that's your
(05:07):
challenged mentally and you're challenged physically if you want to
be the best. And I look at our side and
I just we just don't have that same emphasis on
the sevens game. And I say that because we have
no national tournament. Now, where do the players once I've
finished with the Condor sevens, because the Condor sevens is
(05:28):
really the only tournament and our secondary school players that
we have, you know, of any of any standing, I suppose,
and that's where we go and look as coaches to
try and find the next youngster to come to your
work seven seam. But when we had the Queenstown sevens,
the provincial sevens, Northern regions, Southern regions, you know we can't.
They started to give players perhaps some hope of making
(05:50):
the national side. But we don't have that now, so
they go to the feeds.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
And this is a pathway situation essentially, is what you're saying.
You get to a particular and you stop, you can't
go any further. Who holds ultimate responsibility for that?
Speaker 7 (06:03):
Gordon, Wow, he's in a rugby unit. I mean when
you look at it from the World Series, and I
know that in the World Series they've lost a billion dollars.
I think just in the World Series alone. Going through
the tournaments, I've reduced it from I think twelve tournaments
to seven tournaments. Now there's no sevens that becoming wealth games.
(06:23):
So a lot of players, you know, and in the
women's case, some of them are going off the league.
Some of the players here now I got to put
more emphasis into being a fifteen a side player. So
it's just it's set across Rays the o believer at
a cross raids on how do we because we're still
in the Olympics sports and for a lot of players
(06:43):
out there their dreamers to be an Olympian. I mean,
I look at the Australian women's team. You know, they
lost their two best players and the tournament just in
the record weekend in Perth. And they've got all these
new young players that they're bringing through. They've got quite
a good system in Australia now. And of course they
turned around, but our backburn sevens, you know in a
(07:04):
great final.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
It was a final. It was outrageous. It was stuff,
it really was, and right about the two of the
best players not then, so they've got.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
That a new nineteen year old out on the wing there. Look,
she's a tremendous got player or the final you know.
And but so they're doing something in Australia that's bringing
a lot of players through with a lot of depth.
You know, we're going to lose a few of our
players out of the Black ben seven soon, certainly at
the end of this horse here is because some of
them are going off the league and they may come
(07:34):
back during the Olympic years or something. Perhaps I don't know,
but I know for instance, in the men's program it's
it's tough at the moment and when you lose to
teams like you know, Uruguay and they turn around a
beat FG as well, it sort of says something that
there is a lot of countries wanting more emphasis into
the game of sevens and they are a danger. Let's
(07:55):
face at South Africa. Sorry, Agentcina won the tournament the
weekend comfortably, very easily. They won the final what forty
odd points against Australia.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
There's always so Gordon Tenchens joins that there's always been
an arm wrestle obvious or underlying between ends are internally
with sevens versus fifteens? Is there much more of a
golf now, do you think? Which is why they just
don't have those pathwords, all the pathways. The focus is
solely on the fifteens and the sevens again being left
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poor cousins.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
It is well and I suppose as I go back
to my time back in the day, I suppose it
be so to put it that way, was with a
lot of players that they used the sevens game as
a launching pad to go on to be a super
rugby player, they'd be coming all back, you know. And
to me, that's how it should still be. There should
be still opportunities there. And I'm not saying that we
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haven't got the I just don't believe we've got the
depth at the moment. We lost a lot of good
players and Scott Curry finished up, Sam Dixon finished up.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
You know.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
That's just all finished up at the same time, and
we should have been developing newer players around that time
before they finished up. Then there was some players coming
through and that's how we used to do it. But
now they all finished at the same time, which has
made it pretty tough. So we've got a relatively young
and experienced team and a serious of the moment except
for two or three of them that have got a
(09:23):
number of gentlemens have of their belt.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
So good intentions. Thanks very much for your time. You
have a tremendous twenty five mate. Go well.
Speaker 7 (09:29):
Sheers douzy, Thank you mate.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
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Speaker 2 (09:39):
Here we go again, the old Auckland Stadium debate. It
rears its ugly head from time to time, possibly when
there's no sports news floating around, and it's always the
same old story. It's as predictable as in winter, a
breathless reporter standing in the snow, going wow, it's cold
(09:59):
and wet. It's as predictable as road cones right the
way throughout Auckland City. It's predictable as well. It's just predictable.
I would love a new stadium. We would all love
a new stadium, I'm sure of that. A shining light,
a beacon and icon and almost Sydney opera house like
(10:20):
edifice standing on the water to match the Harbor Bridge,
to match the skytower, announcing Auckland as a gateway, this
huge city in the South Pacific, welcoming everybody to our shores.
But it's not going to happen, and the arguments will
carry on, the proposals will carry on, Investors money from.
(10:41):
I don't know where it will turn up. From time
to time there'll be sharp suited, fast talking businessmen desperate
to be the people behind the establishment of something as
extraordinary as Key Park. We've got to understand one thing, though.
As sure as Auckland's traffic is thick and unpredictable, this
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will never get over the line, and if it does,
I'll be long dead and be there's probably even a
better chance before that. The Warrior is winning the NRL.
The money is immense. No one's going to pay for that,
The resource consent is ridiculous. Who actually wants to wait
for that? And while they are the price gets higher
(11:24):
and higher and higher. In the meantime, the grand old
Lady of Eden Park remains where it keeps doing what
it's done for decades and decades and decades, And you
know what, I'm pretty content with. That may not be perfect,
but it's perfect for us.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
In the Chamber we go. Nathan Limb, a sports journalist
for News Talks e B joins us, now get a.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Made, did I, Darcy?
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Were you shocked and twisted when Uruguay? We shouldn't be laughing,
But what was your first reaction after that happened?
Speaker 8 (12:04):
Yeah? I watched that game, and to be honest, I
wasn't super rocked by it. And I'll tell you why.
Sevens is the way rugby is growing on a global
scale with all of these smaller nations, and because sevens
there are so many tournaments throughout the year.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
This was going to happen. It just was going to happen.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
And I don't think we can go around and just say, oh,
we just had an absolute mey Uruguay minnows.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
This should never happen because.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Like hours before that, so there was the potential for
this to happen. And the All Black Sevens are not
the same beasts that they were in years gone by.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
On what's going on here is it's coaching as a resources,
as the man power that they haven't got that have
gone after the fifteens version.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
What's changing potentially.
Speaker 8 (12:56):
I mean, I think that a few years ago, maybe
you would have been able to name a few more players.
You know that there'll be a few more household names
I suppose you'd say in the All Black Sevens group.
But I also think this is one of those things
where we can't overreact and we can't overthink it. Because
the smaller nations around the world, given the for the
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professionalism of the sport, the number of competitions the Olympics,
that obviously sevens now has a presence.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
In the Olympics.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
This was all the other smaller nations were always going
to rise up and sevens is a game similar to
T twenty cricket, where it's very short, it's very sharp.
We cannot expect a one hundred percent success rate, and
this sort of thing was going to happen.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
It was if we got absolutely drubbed by them.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Goes on. This has affected you.
Speaker 8 (13:47):
If we were given an absolute drubbing, then you could
maybe say, okay, there is there is there a real
issue here, but a tight loss.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I'm not going to overthink it.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
And is it fair to say that basically it's an
Olympic sport now and we're kind of interested, but it's
when the Olympics come around that people start buying into sevens.
It's not even here anymore. Out of sight, out of mind.
I think it's just detached from the rugby populace of
this country.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I think it is.
Speaker 8 (14:13):
I don't think that that means it's going to be
taken any less seriously from the people.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Who are actually involved.
Speaker 8 (14:18):
But in terms of a punter's perspective, the everyday New
Zealand on the street, yes, it's going to be further
out of the minds. We don't have it here a
lot of the time when they're playing these tournaments it's
in the middle of the night, so we're not watching it,
we're just sort of hearing the results. So yeah, one
hundred percent, I'd say that there's a disconnect from that
part of the game in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Now I saw that, then I thought, it's all right,
the Wahani are coming up there. Great. At seven's football
for women is arguably a better game to watch. It's
not about running over people, it's about running into gaps.
It really is. I find it fascinating. And that last game,
that final, good on your Australia for winning it, but
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that was epic. And how amusing is that MaKayla's last
name is now Break, which is one of the fastest
women we'll ever see. Break Break, No accelerate more. Enough already,
let's move away from the sevens and let's move to
the wonderment of a two and a half million dollar horse.
You're not really a horse kind of guy, are you?
Speaker 3 (15:18):
No?
Speaker 8 (15:18):
No, I'm a guy kind of guy, but I yeah,
this is.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
It's big money. It's a big money industry.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Is the point four million dollars for a horse for
a nag It's a record for a philly at Karaka
it seems insane, but it isn't.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Yeah, it seems like a hell of a lot of money.
Speaker 8 (15:40):
Obviously the sister of Orchestral who's had a lot of
success in recent times.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
It's a sport based off genetics, So I.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Suppose that this sort of success you'd think would run
in the families of these horses.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
So if one's.
Speaker 8 (15:53):
Having a lot of success, like the Barrett brothers, you
look to the others. You'd look to the others and think, oh,
maybe maybe they'd be good, and sometimes they sometimes they are.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
What if this horse is like the fourth Barrett.
Speaker 8 (16:07):
Yeah, came Will Whimson has a twin brother, doesn't he?
We see why didn't he come back five for the
black Caps.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So maybe it's not just genetic but something else. But look,
this is a great time for all and they'll breed
this horse and make a whole lot more in two
point four movie.
Speaker 8 (16:21):
Even even if this horse isn't as successful as the sister,
they still still have the same genetics, so breed it
and potentially.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Give an even better vision.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Good on you.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Nathan limb Jeers does dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
It's Sports Fix with Jason Pine and Darcy Walter Grave.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
And that's the Sports Fix. Thanks very much for joining
us for another edition of Darcy water Grave twenty eighth
of January twenty twenty five. The pleasure has been ours
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