November 28, 2024 • 22 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Thursday 28 November 2024, former Australian fast bowler Brett Lee talks about the horror start to the test series against India.
D'Arcy delivers an opinion piece on the former All Blacks coach and his new role.
Plus, Newstalk ZB cricket commentator Andrew Alderson joins the panel from Hagley Oval to recap day one of the test against England.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Coming up in this edition for Thursday, the twenty eighth
of November twenty twenty four, I catch up with former
Australian quick mister Brett Lee. Will talk about what on
earth has happened to Australian cricket after that first Test
of five versus India over in Perth. Touch a wee
bit on the success in India of the Black Caps
(00:55):
as well. Brad Moore was an assistant coach for the Crusaders,
got higher honors assistant coach with Foster and the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Didn't work out particularly well.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's okay, he's turned around, he's come back to his home.
Has just been announced as Rob Penny's assistant for the
twenty twenty five version of the Crusaders. Add up after that,
Andrew Ordison joins us. As we look back at the
day's play. The first day's play of the First Test
in ought to take he christ Church between England and
(01:26):
New Zealand. That's our master plan.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let's it go.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In other news, time to listen in now to the
sports newsmakers of the day. Brad Moore has dismissed the
notion that his return to the Crusaders as an assistant
coach as part of a succession plan to take the
top job. I think it is head coach Rob Penny's
contract expires at the end of the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Moore says he's just grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I don't think taking any any role to look forward
to what may come next is a valuable position to
be an at all. I don't think that's the right
mindset whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Fancy miracle. We've got a golfing one for here. I
could do it.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Be good.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
After one hundred and thirty four attempts, Bryce and the
Shamba has finally hit a hole in one over his
Texas mansion. Lucky for some, the two time Major winners
been posting daily clips to social media of his attempts,
and on the fourteenth shot of day sixteen.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
He's finally found success. All the FC are trying to
keep their focus in check as a sellout looms for
the next Kiwi A League derby against.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The Wellington Phoenix. Now Smart Stadium is nearly full for
the December seventh match already. However, Black Knight's coach Steve
Corriker says they won't get carried away yet.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It goes to show how big the derby's already been
after the first game, and that's one to obviously look
forward to bar but we've got one game for.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That to make sure that we get maximum points and
to continue our run.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
It's sports Fix.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
How my news talks in me.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Gives me a great pleasure to invite to the program,
to welcome to the program at former Australian fast bowler
Brett Lee Brett, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I trust you.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Well, Thanks Darcy, nice to be on main How things.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Things are good, the way things are going and cricket
right now, maybe not so good for yourselves though as well. Look,
as a former fast bowler also deeply involved in Australian cricket,
your initial response to what happened inside of four days.
That was a slap to the face, was it not?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Oh yeah, and look definitely if you if you look
back at the first day, you know, India bowled out
for one hundred and fifty. I was thinking, you know,
a great start by the odd is they all bold
beautifully Josh haswood fort from the first innings, but then
I see it throw at Rissol for one hundred and
form thinking okay, well, because you know you can never
judge a pitch until both teams have bat it on it.
(04:05):
But the way that Jeff from a bowlies absolutely bowl
the house down took five far and then of course
we know what happens in the second is where they
went out Jaswell was amazing getting a big hundred, and
then all of a sudden, what looked as though you know,
a wicket was produced in the fast bowling turned into
an absolute beautiful wicket Australia probably it didn't bowl the
(04:26):
best India bat of their house down and to lose
in four days is very just very very disappointing for
the audience.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
When you look at adjustments that have to be made
and there's a bit of a break between tists for you,
what is the primary issue we do they have to
tweet you don't have to throw the baby out of
the bath water, but what do you have to do
to pick it up again?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I think the first thing is that, you know, a
sense of calm has to come out of the Australian
cricket team and a lot of people might be listening
and thinking, well, hang on, they've just been walloped. What
do you mean by calm? So my explanation is to
just to give it the place of confidence because the
thing that you don't want to create amongst the side
is that if you lose one test that they're looking
(05:08):
for a new open and looking for a new guy
to bat at number five or number six, or the
guys are pulling his weight bowling. So they have to
make sure that that they give the whole Australian trigod
team a chance. That said, though, they have to sharp
and sharpen their pencil on a few things. I don't
think collectively in the second innings, I think Australia by
(05:29):
a little bit too short to be totally honest, and
that was something that I raised on their working over
there with Fox Sports over in Perth. So there's a
couple of technical things I need to work on. But
the other thing too is India play out their skin.
I don't know how they went from losing three nil
to you guys to come over here and to just
(05:49):
decimate Australia. But I did emark that a week ago.
I said that when India come to Australia, it is
a different tournament, it's a different situation. They will hit
the ground ring and they certainly did that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm probably going to be criticized for this because I've
used this line for about the last week or so,
but they talked about waking the sleeping giant of India.
That wasn't a coma mate, it really was, but we
didn't wake up after the first game, and it took
three games to wake up. So the international player form
of Test cricketer, what has to happen to alter the
attitude and change it? Because you don't lose in India
(06:22):
three mil I mean that's astonishing. I'm amazed they bounced back.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
From that bread Yeah, well, we're pressed to blame you
guys for the way that you've played. You played so
well out our little key, we mates, But look, it's
I've always known India. Look I've been gone India for
thirty years now. I've watched the development of so many
young players come through, from the shuven Gels to the
jash Wells, those types of players in the sort of
(06:47):
twenty twenty for mate, these are superstars, you know, These
guys will you know, will go go down in Indian
names as big as you know, the row At Charmers
of the world, the col E's and the sash In Tandokers.
Maybe not as good as many test runs or tests hundreds,
but in terms of what their their talent can bring
with definitely that so India. They must've just had a
(07:08):
real heartfelt sort of conversation saying, listen, we've been whipped
over here in en Z, We've been embarrassed. We've have
to go to Australia and change change our tone. But
to me, this was all led by Jasper Bumer of
the bowler. You know, he got the opportunity to captain
in his country for a second occasion and do it
properly right from you know, not with the captain going
(07:30):
off injured or sick, actually having the captaincy from you know,
prior to the first ball being bold, I thought tactically he
led his team beautifully, I think the way he bold,
but also to that declaration before Australia had a back
for their second innings, he could have easily batted well
into the morning of day for but he thought, you know,
(07:52):
what were the heaps of runs here, Let's send them in.
I want to take the ownership here and I actually
want to be the person to make some early inroads.
And he did that. So he's captaincy along with some
great bowling. I think Australia being a little bit tentative,
and that would be one thing I would say that
the discussion is now leading into the next Test in Adelaide.
(08:13):
They have to find a way to commit to Jasper
Bomra and he's got the type of guy that you
can leave. You know, in Australian cricket, so many batsmen
love to leave the ball, but someone like a jasp
Boman with his angle, with that different run up, with
that different arm action, he gets a ball coming in
from that fourth or fifth up whining towards us start,
(08:33):
which is the reason why they got what four rb
ws and three or four bold.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
When you look at the and you talked about New
Zealand's success which came in at nowhere after getting walleted
by Sri Lanka. And you look at the peaking order
of World Test cricket, how is that altered when you're
take into account what's happened in the last month or so,
britt as far as India and New Zealand and Australia.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's something on the topsy turvy side, is it not?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, it is. I mean this was you know, last
week was one v two Australia versus India. But I've
been I've been really impressed with the Kiwis, and not
because I'm on the line chat in to you, but
it's they are forced through reckon with they They've got
some amazing players. They've had a couple of guys that
have moved on, a couple of young guys coming through,
But just just the mindset and and some pace there
(09:23):
as well. And you know the thing that I've I
can only sort of speculate or talk about the guys
that I've played against or even commentator on. You know,
the Shane Bonds of the world that released at the Foundation.
I think the average about seventeen with a white ball
against the ausis. So it doesn't surprise me that the
talent is over and enz because they've always had talent,
They've always had guys that can that can match it,
(09:46):
not only with Australia but definitely with India.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think we need more five Test series, or any
five tests series, or more test series full stop in
New Zealand. Of the Australia, we're starting to get a
hind of it. I know you ham receivery time, but
wouldn't it be good to rekindle that that that wonderful
trans Tasman fight.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Look, I think so. And that was one thing I
praised creut Australia and the border crowd control of India
is that I always think the big Test series has
to be five Test series because even though Australia has
been what in the first doesn't mean they can't go
on to win this series. And that's the great thing
and the benefit of having that. So if you play
(10:25):
a three Test series like you guys have just done
against India, you know, you sort of lose the first
one if you're from India, and you may lose a second.
The series is done and then you're playing catch up
and then they might think, well we might change the
team around now because the series is done and dusted,
whereas you can actually lose the first two Tests and
come and fight your way back and actually win the
(10:45):
whole series. So I'm a massive fan of the five
Test series. I think it like Test cricket, a five
Test series, or if you look at the Test match
it goes for five days. You know you can lose
the first one or two days of Test cricket and
actually win Test match itself. So I'm a massive fan
of it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And Brittley before we let you go, and thanks so
much for joining us. You remember a time we're two
opening fast bowlers captain the respective sides.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean, that's just weird, isn't.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
It, Darcy? How good? See finally it's a bloody batter's game, mate,
So finally the fast bowlers who are definitely the most
intelligent creatures going around and have proved it, have proven
the fact that fast bowlers can captain their countries. Jessic
Barner was outstanding. We all know how good Pat Cummers
has been. So I'm saying this with tongue in cheek
(11:34):
of course, mate, but you know what, it's nice. It's
nice to get one for the fast bowlers.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Tim South he might be questioning that, but that's okay.
He's had a marvelous career anyway, and.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Good luck with Coley. I think he's woken up now
as well. So we look forward to the chaos of
the day night Test match. I can't stand them myself,
pret but that is what it is, right.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, boling with the rose ballers. They stay not quite
red and not quite white in between.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Ooh, Rose Brittley, real pleasure, mate, Thanks very much for
joining us here on News Talks, EB.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Good on your darcy cheers, mate.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
This is your daily does of sports news. How in
News Talks Evy.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Brad Moore returns.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He is back now with the Crusaders, along with Matt Todd,
the assistant coach and of course head coach Rob Penny.
Didn't have a great year last year, but hopefully a
lot of lessons taken from that season and reapplied to
Super Rugby next year.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is a great tale.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Not of redemption but the long journey to the top
job when it comes to coaching in rugby. No, he
hasn't got the top job. He came close to getting
a very good job when he teamed up with plum
Tree under Foster for the All Blacks. But as we
know after that defeat at home at the hands of
the Irish, that it went pear shaped and he was
(12:56):
drop kicked stage right. A lot of people were pack
of sad and disappear. Brad disappeared and did what a
lot of people complain about that Scott Robertson hasn't done
got himself some international experience with Scotland and with Argentina
as well. He's been completely out of the cycle when
it comes to coaching here and that New Zealand comes
(13:18):
back with fresh eyes, a fresh attitude and an idea
he wants to carry on where he left off of
the Crusaders, which was an utterly dominant time for the
Red and Black Bread.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
May not have worked closely with head coach.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Robert Penny before, but they did play together way back
in the day and they know each other through Canterbury
coaching circles. And I expect when these two get together,
along with Matt Todd on the Rise, who actually played
under Brad Moore back in the day, again the nucleus
of what's made the Crusaders such an important and dominant
(13:52):
franchise it's about knowing what the Crusaders mean to the community.
It's about understanding and tapping into a deep and rich
history of the Canterbury region. That's what Penny has got,
That's what Todd has got, and now Brad Moore, refreshed
after time away, brings that and spades back to the side.
This is a fantastic appointment. I'm super pleased and also
(14:16):
just a tad afraid for the rest of the franchises
in Super Rugby. So welcome back Brad. More looking forward
to seeing what kind of effect you have and now
you've got international experience. I wonder if you'll be taking
over from Rob Penny next year and Olmands and upwards
a new all black coach. Okay, cut before the horse,
(14:36):
but why not dream? Welcome back Brad.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We join now in the Chamber by Andrew All of
a Sudin from a news talk zb who's following all
of the cricket Attah christ Church day one of the
first Test match between England and New Zealand. He joined
us now well the full report on the action and
christ Judge. Good day to you, Andrew, I trust your will.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Thanks to us, we've seeing a pretty even due here
to I must say, between New Zealand and England. Of
course England winning the toss sending New Zealand in. But
thoughts and you said it have better with some real
plumb across the day, and that a lot of the
credit that I think has to go to Tom Lathan
leading their way on his home ground. He's led here before,
but this time he's in the official capacity as captain
(15:26):
and his forty seven or fifty four boards and it
was just positive intent Brooks and I knowed him get
to the the fifty or moving on to one hundred,
but I thought that was just a significant innings as
the day is as.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Evolved when you think about it, though, Andrew, you had
failed to go on and there's a case right the
way through the side. So you can say it's respectable
because it is in the three hundreds at the end
of the day. Absolutely, But don't you feel like maybe
there's a couple of tricks just being missed there with
the conditions And I suppose Basher, look, he's picked up
(16:04):
a handful of wickets, but they're all pretty bum wickets,
weren't they.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Am I being too cruel.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I think a touch here.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I'm really into that Latham, and so I just think
that with the venom that's normally on the show here,
and I don't think the pitch has quite that venom
that's had in the past here, perhaps had more of
Pistacio Hugh when we got here to day rather than
the emerald machine we've been accustomed to. But I thought
that was a decent knock and it paved the way
for Williamson to get established.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
He didn't literally go on beyond that ninety three.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
As it started to get baked well with a thirty
degree sun here in Canterbury today, but also had that
sort of kiln drying it out with the northwester going
through as well.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
So basically batting conditions are only going to get better
over the next two or three days.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Andrew wasn't criticizing Latham, don't get me wrong, because Latham
was a great innings, a great way to start, very aggressive.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
But when you look right the way through.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The innings, I think there were there were too many
lost opportunities, a lot of starts, not a lot of finishes,
and some pretty some pretty mud wickets.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I got to say as far as dismissals are concern
and I've been crawling.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Now No, Well, I think one of the key ones
for me was revenge.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
There's thirty four runs when you know the News have
established themselves in the end and it was a hoyk
across to short moved wicket and then you know he
has established himself well.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So I thought that was a key case in point.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I mean he saw goom Phillips has made a decent
contribution and also he met Henry being able to sort
of help the tail wag unfortunately Nathan Smith. But that
was a touch soft as well, if you want to
talk soft dismissals, just nudging a catch to short leg
on three on his debut. So I think he would
be disappointed with that. But I quite like the tolling
(17:44):
and frying if you like between that both sides over
the course of that and I think at the end
of the day opening Danie's Gilds the score over three
hundred would be happy with that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
What about the position of the bats. I'm just going
to wail in because I can. But when you look
at Blundell, it's not having a great time of it.
It's wicket keeper batsman, not batsman, wicket keep What on
earth is Phillips doing and.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Coming in behind him?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Surely that's that's a problem that needs to be adjusted.
Tweaked looked at possibly Andrew.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Yeah, I would switch those two around.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And I mean Blundell has has had success at number
six and back to that twenty twenty two too, where
he and Mitchell had that extraordinary series of partnerships in
England against this opposition.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Some of them is still here. But I think.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
There's certainly an argument for that that to switch those
two around. But I think Blundall's glove work is pretty
solid by and large, so therefore that's, as you say,
it's his prime reason for being in the team. But yeah,
he was not an awful lot of competition trying to
force him out of the stage, so he will need
to address that though.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I don't think that he's not a good wicket keeper.
I think he does well, But I say wicket keeper batsman,
it's not the other way around. He's a wikekeeper first
and foremost. You've got to look at a guy like
Phillips and go, why aren't you coming in ahead of him?
Because he's got that there's an electricity about what he brings.
So when you take all listen to account and what
the English are going to be chasing down, you said
(19:12):
we should be happy. They're probably happy. Is it a
case of even Stevens on the first day.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Oh, absolutely, that's the case I'm making.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I think it's just an even duel across the course
of the day.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Really.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
I mean you still got back into it a fairly
strong way with Williamson at the wicket, with Williamson and
Ravendra and then even later on with Phillips as well.
But England have still been just chipping away throughout. So
I think that there is a case for both teams.
It's been a great days cricket really in the full
sun here in Canterbury, full crowd and people just really absorbing,
(19:51):
absorbing the fixture, and I think it's really helped to
make it a terrific spectacle.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And I'm going to say at the lunch break, did
you drag yourself away from what I presume is a
very impressive buffet and go and stand in the middle
looking at the pitch, nodding about, I don't know what,
with your hands behind your back, because that's what you
do at lunchtime, right, you stand around the fender.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
That rope off Wick.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
It's not what I was doing.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I was busy with a knife and fork. Yeah, yeah,
I was up forting those decent use that.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
I just don't I think that this pitch, yeah, is
certainly going to be batter friendly across days two and three.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Dars thing is what we can as attain and the
New Zealand Bowling attack. It's going to be a true
test for them, and I think it's going to put
quite a lot of pressure on Willow Rourke. We'll see.
I mean he's stepped up to it so far in
his career.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Likewise, Matt Henry Canterbury combination there opening up, and I
mean Nathan Smith on debut, that's going to be an
interesting scenario for him turn Tim see in his final
test series.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
So I think that Ira in particularly, I'm going to
be watching.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And Andrew all of a sodden on that We thank
you very much for your time and of course doing
all of the hard yards. He's got his David Leggett
memorial knife and fork which he takes everywhere with him
to hold out into the buffet and that's a great
tribute to a wonderful man, Andrew, thanks for your time.
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Speaker 3 (00:31):
I'm Darcy Walder Graven.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Coming up in this edition for Thursday, the twenty eighth
of November twenty twenty four, I catch up with former
Australian quick mister Brett Lee. Will talk about what on
earth has happened to Australian cricket after that first Test
of five versus India over in Perth. Touch a wee
bit on the success in India of the Black Caps
(00:55):
as well. Brad Moore was an assistant coach for the Crusaders,
got higher honors assistant coach with Foster and the All Blacks.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Didn't work out particularly well.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
That's okay, he's turned around, he's come back to his home.
Has just been announced as Rob Penny's assistant for the
twenty twenty five version of the Crusaders. Add up after that,
Andrew Ordison joins us. As we look back at the
day's play. The first day's play of the First Test
in ought to take he christ Church between England and
(01:26):
New Zealand. That's our master plan.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let's it go.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
In other news, time to listen in now to the
sports newsmakers of the day. Brad Moore has dismissed the
notion that his return to the Crusaders as an assistant
coach as part of a succession plan to take the
top job. I think it is head coach Rob Penny's
contract expires at the end of the twenty twenty five season.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Moore says he's just grateful for the opportunity.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I don't think taking any any role to look forward
to what may come next is a valuable position to
be an at all. I don't think that's the right
mindset whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Fancy miracle. We've got a golfing one for here. I
could do it.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Be good.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
After one hundred and thirty four attempts, Bryce and the
Shamba has finally hit a hole in one over his
Texas mansion. Lucky for some, the two time Major winners
been posting daily clips to social media of his attempts,
and on the fourteenth shot of day sixteen.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
He's finally found success. All the FC are trying to
keep their focus in check as a sellout looms for
the next Kiwi A League derby against.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
The Wellington Phoenix. Now Smart Stadium is nearly full for
the December seventh match already. However, Black Knight's coach Steve
Corriker says they won't get carried away yet.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
It goes to show how big the derby's already been
after the first game, and that's one to obviously look
forward to bar but we've got one game for.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
That to make sure that we get maximum points and
to continue our run.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
It's sports Fix.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
How my news talks in me.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Gives me a great pleasure to invite to the program,
to welcome to the program at former Australian fast bowler
Brett Lee Brett, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I trust you.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Well, Thanks Darcy, nice to be on main How things.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Things are good, the way things are going and cricket
right now, maybe not so good for yourselves though as well. Look,
as a former fast bowler also deeply involved in Australian cricket,
your initial response to what happened inside of four days.
That was a slap to the face, was it not?
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Oh yeah, and look definitely if you if you look
back at the first day, you know, India bowled out
for one hundred and fifty. I was thinking, you know,
a great start by the odd is they all bold
beautifully Josh haswood fort from the first innings, but then
I see it throw at Rissol for one hundred and
form thinking okay, well, because you know you can never
judge a pitch until both teams have bat it on it.
(04:05):
But the way that Jeff from a bowlies absolutely bowl
the house down took five far and then of course
we know what happens in the second is where they
went out Jaswell was amazing getting a big hundred, and
then all of a sudden, what looked as though you know,
a wicket was produced in the fast bowling turned into
an absolute beautiful wicket Australia probably it didn't bowl the
(04:26):
best India bat of their house down and to lose
in four days is very just very very disappointing for
the audience.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
When you look at adjustments that have to be made
and there's a bit of a break between tists for you,
what is the primary issue we do they have to
tweet you don't have to throw the baby out of
the bath water, but what do you have to do
to pick it up again?
Speaker 5 (04:47):
I think the first thing is that, you know, a
sense of calm has to come out of the Australian
cricket team and a lot of people might be listening
and thinking, well, hang on, they've just been walloped. What
do you mean by calm? So my explanation is to
just to give it the place of confidence because the
thing that you don't want to create amongst the side
is that if you lose one test that they're looking
(05:08):
for a new open and looking for a new guy
to bat at number five or number six, or the
guys are pulling his weight bowling. So they have to
make sure that that they give the whole Australian trigod
team a chance. That said, though, they have to sharp
and sharpen their pencil on a few things. I don't
think collectively in the second innings, I think Australia by
(05:29):
a little bit too short to be totally honest, and
that was something that I raised on their working over
there with Fox Sports over in Perth. So there's a
couple of technical things I need to work on. But
the other thing too is India play out their skin.
I don't know how they went from losing three nil
to you guys to come over here and to just
(05:49):
decimate Australia. But I did emark that a week ago.
I said that when India come to Australia, it is
a different tournament, it's a different situation. They will hit
the ground ring and they certainly did that.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I'm probably going to be criticized for this because I've
used this line for about the last week or so,
but they talked about waking the sleeping giant of India.
That wasn't a coma mate, it really was, but we
didn't wake up after the first game, and it took
three games to wake up. So the international player form
of Test cricketer, what has to happen to alter the
attitude and change it? Because you don't lose in India
(06:22):
three mil I mean that's astonishing. I'm amazed they bounced back.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
From that bread Yeah, well, we're pressed to blame you
guys for the way that you've played. You played so
well out our little key, we mates, But look, it's
I've always known India. Look I've been gone India for
thirty years now. I've watched the development of so many
young players come through, from the shuven Gels to the
jash Wells, those types of players in the sort of
(06:47):
twenty twenty for mate, these are superstars, you know, These
guys will you know, will go go down in Indian
names as big as you know, the row At Charmers
of the world, the col E's and the sash In Tandokers.
Maybe not as good as many test runs or tests hundreds,
but in terms of what their their talent can bring
with definitely that so India. They must've just had a
(07:08):
real heartfelt sort of conversation saying, listen, we've been whipped
over here in en Z, We've been embarrassed. We've have
to go to Australia and change change our tone. But
to me, this was all led by Jasper Bumer of
the bowler. You know, he got the opportunity to captain
in his country for a second occasion and do it
properly right from you know, not with the captain going
(07:30):
off injured or sick, actually having the captaincy from you know,
prior to the first ball being bold, I thought tactically he
led his team beautifully, I think the way he bold,
but also to that declaration before Australia had a back
for their second innings, he could have easily batted well
into the morning of day for but he thought, you know,
(07:52):
what were the heaps of runs here, Let's send them in.
I want to take the ownership here and I actually
want to be the person to make some early inroads.
And he did that. So he's captaincy along with some
great bowling. I think Australia being a little bit tentative,
and that would be one thing I would say that
the discussion is now leading into the next Test in Adelaide.
(08:13):
They have to find a way to commit to Jasper
Bomra and he's got the type of guy that you
can leave. You know, in Australian cricket, so many batsmen
love to leave the ball, but someone like a jasp
Boman with his angle, with that different run up, with
that different arm action, he gets a ball coming in
from that fourth or fifth up whining towards us start,
(08:33):
which is the reason why they got what four rb
ws and three or four bold.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
When you look at the and you talked about New
Zealand's success which came in at nowhere after getting walleted
by Sri Lanka. And you look at the peaking order
of World Test cricket, how is that altered when you're
take into account what's happened in the last month or so,
britt as far as India and New Zealand and Australia.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
It's something on the topsy turvy side, is it not?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah, it is. I mean this was you know, last
week was one v two Australia versus India. But I've
been I've been really impressed with the Kiwis, and not
because I'm on the line chat in to you, but
it's they are forced through reckon with they They've got
some amazing players. They've had a couple of guys that
have moved on, a couple of young guys coming through,
But just just the mindset and and some pace there
(09:23):
as well. And you know the thing that I've I
can only sort of speculate or talk about the guys
that I've played against or even commentator on. You know,
the Shane Bonds of the world that released at the Foundation.
I think the average about seventeen with a white ball
against the ausis. So it doesn't surprise me that the
talent is over and enz because they've always had talent,
They've always had guys that can that can match it,
(09:46):
not only with Australia but definitely with India.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
I think we need more five Test series, or any
five tests series, or more test series full stop in
New Zealand. Of the Australia, we're starting to get a
hind of it. I know you ham receivery time, but
wouldn't it be good to rekindle that that that wonderful
trans Tasman fight.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Look, I think so. And that was one thing I
praised creut Australia and the border crowd control of India
is that I always think the big Test series has
to be five Test series because even though Australia has
been what in the first doesn't mean they can't go
on to win this series. And that's the great thing
and the benefit of having that. So if you play
(10:25):
a three Test series like you guys have just done
against India, you know, you sort of lose the first
one if you're from India, and you may lose a second.
The series is done and then you're playing catch up
and then they might think, well we might change the
team around now because the series is done and dusted,
whereas you can actually lose the first two Tests and
come and fight your way back and actually win the
(10:45):
whole series. So I'm a massive fan of the five
Test series. I think it like Test cricket, a five
Test series, or if you look at the Test match
it goes for five days. You know you can lose
the first one or two days of Test cricket and
actually win Test match itself. So I'm a massive fan
of it.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
And Brittley before we let you go, and thanks so
much for joining us. You remember a time we're two
opening fast bowlers captain the respective sides.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
I mean, that's just weird, isn't.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
It, Darcy? How good? See finally it's a bloody batter's game, mate,
So finally the fast bowlers who are definitely the most
intelligent creatures going around and have proved it, have proven
the fact that fast bowlers can captain their countries. Jessic
Barner was outstanding. We all know how good Pat Cummers
has been. So I'm saying this with tongue in cheek
(11:34):
of course, mate, but you know what, it's nice. It's
nice to get one for the fast bowlers.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Tim South he might be questioning that, but that's okay.
He's had a marvelous career anyway, and.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Good luck with Coley. I think he's woken up now
as well. So we look forward to the chaos of
the day night Test match. I can't stand them myself,
pret but that is what it is, right.
Speaker 5 (11:55):
Yeah, boling with the rose ballers. They stay not quite
red and not quite white in between.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Ooh, Rose Brittley, real pleasure, mate, Thanks very much for
joining us here on News Talks, EB.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Good on your darcy cheers, mate.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
This is your daily does of sports news. How in
News Talks Evy.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Brad Moore returns.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He is back now with the Crusaders, along with Matt Todd,
the assistant coach and of course head coach Rob Penny.
Didn't have a great year last year, but hopefully a
lot of lessons taken from that season and reapplied to
Super Rugby next year.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
This is a great tale.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Not of redemption but the long journey to the top
job when it comes to coaching in rugby. No, he
hasn't got the top job. He came close to getting
a very good job when he teamed up with plum
Tree under Foster for the All Blacks. But as we
know after that defeat at home at the hands of
the Irish, that it went pear shaped and he was
(12:56):
drop kicked stage right. A lot of people were pack
of sad and disappear. Brad disappeared and did what a
lot of people complain about that Scott Robertson hasn't done
got himself some international experience with Scotland and with Argentina
as well. He's been completely out of the cycle when
it comes to coaching here and that New Zealand comes
(13:18):
back with fresh eyes, a fresh attitude and an idea
he wants to carry on where he left off of
the Crusaders, which was an utterly dominant time for the
Red and Black Bread.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
May not have worked closely with head coach.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Robert Penny before, but they did play together way back
in the day and they know each other through Canterbury
coaching circles. And I expect when these two get together,
along with Matt Todd on the Rise, who actually played
under Brad Moore back in the day, again the nucleus
of what's made the Crusaders such an important and dominant
(13:52):
franchise it's about knowing what the Crusaders mean to the community.
It's about understanding and tapping into a deep and rich
history of the Canterbury region. That's what Penny has got,
That's what Todd has got, and now Brad Moore, refreshed
after time away, brings that and spades back to the side.
This is a fantastic appointment. I'm super pleased and also
(14:16):
just a tad afraid for the rest of the franchises
in Super Rugby. So welcome back Brad. More looking forward
to seeing what kind of effect you have and now
you've got international experience. I wonder if you'll be taking
over from Rob Penny next year and Olmands and upwards
a new all black coach. Okay, cut before the horse,
(14:36):
but why not dream? Welcome back Brad.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
We join now in the Chamber by Andrew All of
a Sudin from a news talk zb who's following all
of the cricket Attah christ Church day one of the
first Test match between England and New Zealand. He joined
us now well the full report on the action and
christ Judge. Good day to you, Andrew, I trust your will.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Thanks to us, we've seeing a pretty even due here
to I must say, between New Zealand and England. Of
course England winning the toss sending New Zealand in. But
thoughts and you said it have better with some real
plumb across the day, and that a lot of the
credit that I think has to go to Tom Lathan
leading their way on his home ground. He's led here before,
but this time he's in the official capacity as captain
(15:26):
and his forty seven or fifty four boards and it
was just positive intent Brooks and I knowed him get
to the the fifty or moving on to one hundred,
but I thought that was just a significant innings as
the day is as.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
Evolved when you think about it, though, Andrew, you had
failed to go on and there's a case right the
way through the side. So you can say it's respectable
because it is in the three hundreds at the end
of the day. Absolutely, But don't you feel like maybe
there's a couple of tricks just being missed there with
the conditions And I suppose Basher, look, he's picked up
(16:04):
a handful of wickets, but they're all pretty bum wickets,
weren't they.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Am I being too cruel.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I think a touch here.
Speaker 7 (16:09):
I'm really into that Latham, and so I just think
that with the venom that's normally on the show here,
and I don't think the pitch has quite that venom
that's had in the past here, perhaps had more of
Pistacio Hugh when we got here to day rather than
the emerald machine we've been accustomed to. But I thought
that was a decent knock and it paved the way
for Williamson to get established.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
He didn't literally go on beyond that ninety three.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
As it started to get baked well with a thirty
degree sun here in Canterbury today, but also had that
sort of kiln drying it out with the northwester going
through as well.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
So basically batting conditions are only going to get better
over the next two or three days.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Andrew wasn't criticizing Latham, don't get me wrong, because Latham
was a great innings, a great way to start, very aggressive.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
But when you look right the way through.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
The innings, I think there were there were too many
lost opportunities, a lot of starts, not a lot of finishes,
and some pretty some pretty mud wickets.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
I got to say as far as dismissals are concern
and I've been crawling.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
Now No, Well, I think one of the key ones
for me was revenge.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
There's thirty four runs when you know the News have
established themselves in the end and it was a hoyk
across to short moved wicket and then you know he
has established himself well.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
So I thought that was a key case in point.
Speaker 7 (17:21):
I mean he saw goom Phillips has made a decent
contribution and also he met Henry being able to sort
of help the tail wag unfortunately Nathan Smith. But that
was a touch soft as well, if you want to
talk soft dismissals, just nudging a catch to short leg
on three on his debut. So I think he would
be disappointed with that. But I quite like the tolling
(17:44):
and frying if you like between that both sides over
the course of that and I think at the end
of the day opening Danie's Gilds the score over three
hundred would be happy with that.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
What about the position of the bats. I'm just going
to wail in because I can. But when you look
at Blundell, it's not having a great time of it.
It's wicket keeper batsman, not batsman, wicket keep What on
earth is Phillips doing and.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
Coming in behind him?
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Surely that's that's a problem that needs to be adjusted.
Tweaked looked at possibly Andrew.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Yeah, I would switch those two around.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
And I mean Blundell has has had success at number
six and back to that twenty twenty two too, where
he and Mitchell had that extraordinary series of partnerships in
England against this opposition.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
Some of them is still here. But I think.
Speaker 7 (18:31):
There's certainly an argument for that that to switch those
two around. But I think Blundall's glove work is pretty
solid by and large, so therefore that's, as you say,
it's his prime reason for being in the team. But yeah,
he was not an awful lot of competition trying to
force him out of the stage, so he will need
to address that though.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Yeah, I don't think that he's not a good wicket keeper.
I think he does well, But I say wicket keeper batsman,
it's not the other way around. He's a wikekeeper first
and foremost. You've got to look at a guy like
Phillips and go, why aren't you coming in ahead of him?
Because he's got that there's an electricity about what he brings.
So when you take all listen to account and what
the English are going to be chasing down, you said
(19:12):
we should be happy. They're probably happy. Is it a
case of even Stevens on the first day.
Speaker 6 (19:19):
Oh, absolutely, that's the case I'm making.
Speaker 7 (19:21):
I think it's just an even duel across the course
of the day.
Speaker 6 (19:26):
Really.
Speaker 7 (19:27):
I mean you still got back into it a fairly
strong way with Williamson at the wicket, with Williamson and
Ravendra and then even later on with Phillips as well.
But England have still been just chipping away throughout. So
I think that there is a case for both teams.
It's been a great days cricket really in the full
sun here in Canterbury, full crowd and people just really absorbing,
(19:51):
absorbing the fixture, and I think it's really helped to
make it a terrific spectacle.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
And I'm going to say at the lunch break, did
you drag yourself away from what I presume is a
very impressive buffet and go and stand in the middle
looking at the pitch, nodding about, I don't know what,
with your hands behind your back, because that's what you
do at lunchtime, right, you stand around the fender.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
That rope off Wick.
Speaker 7 (20:16):
It's not what I was doing.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I was busy with a knife and fork. Yeah, yeah,
I was up forting those decent use that.
Speaker 7 (20:25):
I just don't I think that this pitch, yeah, is
certainly going to be batter friendly across days two and three.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
Dars thing is what we can as attain and the
New Zealand Bowling attack. It's going to be a true
test for them, and I think it's going to put
quite a lot of pressure on Willow Rourke. We'll see.
I mean he's stepped up to it so far in
his career.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Likewise, Matt Henry Canterbury combination there opening up, and I
mean Nathan Smith on debut, that's going to be an
interesting scenario for him turn Tim see in his final
test series.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
So I think that Ira in particularly, I'm going to
be watching.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
And Andrew all of a sodden on that We thank
you very much for your time and of course doing
all of the hard yards. He's got his David Leggett
memorial knife and fork which he takes everywhere with him
to hold out into the buffet and that's a great
tribute to a wonderful man, Andrew, thanks for your time.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Lovely dars too right dissecting the sporting agenda, It's Sportsfix
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Speaker 2 (21:23):
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