July 5, 2024 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 5th July 2024, Mark Robinson discusses the first test of the year.
The All Blacks are preparing for their first test under Scott 'Razor' Robertson. NZR CEO Mark Robinson joins the podcast to discuss the expectations for the season and how Razor might differ to Ian Foster as a leader.
Plus, Piney joins D'Arcy from All Blacks training to discuss the Test match and to give their predictions on how they think it will play out
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk sed B.
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This is Sportsfix Howard By News Talks It be welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm into the Sports Fix on Darcy Walder Grave and
on the fifth July twenty twenty four, this is it.
Along with Jason pine We're going to bring your daily
dose of talking sport. We're going to kick things off
with Mark Robinson, CEO of n Z are as we
look toward the Test match in Dunedin and beyond that
for the All Blacks and what is a huge season.
(00:44):
I've got some editorial thoughts for you around the naming
rights of major stadia, who pays for it, how much
do they pay and do they actually have a right
to do so? And then Piney joins us from All
Black Training as we'll throw around some concept and some
ideas about this huge Test match coming out five past
seven on Saturday with News Talk z B. Right, that's
(01:08):
our plan and let's do this. In other news, Let's
get an hear full of some of today's sports newsmakers. TJ.
Pittin as crashed his way back into the All Blacks
and made the cut to start tomorrow's English fixture. There
are plenty of questions around if he would return or not.
(01:28):
The Hurricanes teammate and All Black vice captain Addisavia had
no doubt at all.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I always know, like, if here's one person you want
by the side, it's Petty. He will never take no
for an answer. He's the most competitive person that I know,
so I for him to come back, it's not surprising.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And like the Spanish Inquisition, no one can expect what
a definitive All Black style will be from coach Scott Robertson,
says English skipper Jack George.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What they achieved with the Crusaders obviously is a huge
achievement in itself, so it's really exciting prospects. I think,
you know, there's obviously the you know, we sort of
know the players played again, the players probably don't know
what sort of system they might be bringing, so there's
an element of unknown in that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And former All Black pivot Richie Muana, back from his
Japanese sojourn, has got a severe case of fomo.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I still feel like I'm in my prime.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I'm teaking now.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Is you want to be playing for the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And I want to be putting my name there. In
a couple of years time come World Cup and that's
the ultimate goal is heads to Australia and win a
World Cup.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And for the more mature amongst this, fomos kids speak
for fear of missing out. So that's some sports today,
a little bit of modern vernacular for good measure leading
of X.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
We've got just the ticket. It's sports X. How my
news talks is.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
E joined it now by Mark Robinson, CEO of New
Zealand Rugby. As we look toward the start of what
will be and I keep using this word mark and
epic season. There is so much to look forward to.
It really is a clean slate, is it not. You
must be stoked to be talking about this the rugby
(03:09):
on the part the coaches, the players as opposed to
any of that administrative stuff that's basically been haunting endsit
are for so long.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Hi Darcy. Yeah, and great to be with the listeners. Yeah,
we are excited. You know. I'm down and got into
Dunedin on on Wednesday night. The town's slowly filling up.
It feels like we've just come out of a few
meetings about to you know, get out and watch a
bit of training, like you say, and get around the
rugby and checking with our team. So Louis are really excited.
(03:39):
This is an amazing series to start off a new
regime of of of management and rais his tenure as coach,
and also for the exciting new talent we've seen comes
through as well. And then you extend into the season,
I'm sure you want to talk about the the other
things we're doing in the States and Rugby Championship as well,
and any of your tour is a massive, massive tour
with the my tiner, we have so lots to look
(04:03):
forward to and get excited about for the punters.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So how complicit have you been with the act all
players and the coaching stuff. Do you get in and
maybe have a chat or contribute anything or is it
a case of I'm just going to stay well away
from you guys. I'm what you call the fish head.
I've got no place.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Well, yeah, I guess having been a former player, I
understand you know what the environments are like pretty well. Look,
I spend a little bit of time here and there
that the team has some social connection times through the
through the week. I try to get into that I
catch up with the management occasionally if they have a
weekly dinner, I'll pop my head in and obviously with them,
(04:41):
you know, after the games and try to get to
the odd training. So yeah, I'm I try to be
around where I can, Darcy, but certainly certainly not in
any way other than being supportive in general and and
you know, just just being around to show that we
really care and a ride and behind this group. Certainly,
no advice on selection tactics or anything like that. I'm
well past that and my technical rugby knowledge now. When
(05:04):
I listen to you know, some of these guys talk
about it, it truly feels like a different game from
my day. But definitely there to support them and make
sure they've got everything they need to succeed.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It must be great now that Scott Robinson's actually in
the seat, Mark Robinson, it's been a long time and
he's been waiting. There were issues around the way he
was appointed, but that is rerevision mirror stuff. Now it's
all about looking to what Scott can do in this role.
He's been in front of the media now he sleeped
at a squad and his team. How satisfied are you
with the way he's handled what is a pretty explosive
(05:35):
start to the season before we've even played today.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Oh look, he's done an outstanding job coming in. If
you go back to the end of last year, he
obviously spent time with the board and stakeholders before Christmas,
set out a bit of a plan and a vision
for how he was going to take the role on
and how he saw the leadership of the All Blacks
into this year. You know, him and I have spent
(06:01):
a bit of time in the Northern Hemisphere with our partners. Again,
he's been very open and accessible around the media without
sort of diminishing the airtime that we needed to create
to give to Super Rugby, you know, to be a
really prominent competition as it has been in a really
strong success and you know, I guess as the start
of the English series has gotten closer, he's really narrative
(06:23):
focus around as you say, selection and preparation and getting
team ready, which he should do. So I look, we're
really really happy. You look at the way him and
his team are integrating across all of our national teams.
That's really outstanding. We've had Leon and Jace Ryan away
with the twenties during the Rugby Championship. Great result from them,
(06:44):
you know, overnight beating France in a big match in
South Africa. So he's seeing some of the benefits of
that alignment coming through that. Others are those coaches in
with the sevens teams as well. So lots lots of alignment,
lots of connection, which talks about a lot and a
lot of work to make sure the rugby side of
(07:04):
the program is really well joined up. So looking forward
to seeing them get out there now, and I think
the whole country is and that's really exciting to us.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You said regime, interesting choice of words for Razer. How
has this changed from what you can see under and
I won't say regime, but under Ian Foster's control. Has
there been any market difference in the way this has
been handled? Approach looked after? Have you, I suppose, moved
forward from that last coaching group.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Oh look, I think you know the way you framed
it before, Darcy. You know that people know about the
background of that and we are we are focused on
going forward. But a lot of the stuff I've described
in Raises six months is there's been really energizing for
the organization and the game, and I think a lot
of our stakeholders, the way they've engaged with Super Rugby,
the way they've engaged with the media. You know, we're
(07:55):
focusing on them now and it's their time. And we
have a huge amount of respect for the people that
have gone before, both on and off the field, around
the All Blacks over a large period of time, and
that will always be the but this is a the
evolution of the team and the environment and as I say,
we're looking forward to really supporting them. Make the most
(08:16):
of your journey.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Great stuff, Hey you or Mark Robinson. I was gonna
call you Robo, but I'm told not to be so
casual anymore. So, mister Robinson, thank you very much for
your time. Are you over a wonderful weekend and enjoy
the upcoming season. It promises so much. Let's hope it delivers.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Thank you, mister water Grove. That's great.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
This is Sportsfix, your daily does of sports news now
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Speaker 2 (08:39):
Zby right, you're getting a brand new stadium. It is Takaha,
or it was Takaha. It will still remain Tokaha as
the land it is being built on and the precinct
surrounding this new roof thirty thousand plus stadium will be
known as Tikaharoa. But yesterday we were informed that the
telco one that New Zealand has climbed in, peeled off
(09:02):
some notes and bought themselves naming rights for this new stadium.
From now on end it will be known as the
one New Zealand Stadium. Like I understand, are the commercial
realities of building stadium, of indeed injecting money into sports.
These people have a lot of cash, they want to
spend it. They want the advertising, they want the profile,
(09:24):
so they go ahead. What I'm not entirely comfortable with
is when the government and the Council i e. Our
taxes and our rates in the case of christ Church
residents stump up six hundred and fifty million dollars to
build this, and a telco for a bit of change
wander in and take the naming rights. There are a
(09:46):
number of venues globally if you tried changing the name
or introducing a sponsor, regardless of how much money they
brought in, it wouldn't go down well at all. I
talk of the mcg of Old Trafford, of Wembley, even
Eden Park Twicken them. Possibly it would not work. But
let's face it, the sad reality is without someone else's money,
(10:08):
these nice things will simply not be possible. I would
like One New Zealand, not that they ever listened to
me to change the name One New Zealand Takaha Stadium,
A tipping of the cap to where this structure is
built and where it came from. Look, call it what
you will. We know what it's going to be a
(10:29):
fantastic piece of infrastructure for the community. So you can
call it to Kaha, you can call it One New
Zealand Stadium. You can call it Lancaster Park two point zero.
For all I care, you can call it Jeff. All
we really want is for the doors to open so
we can get high quality covered sport and a stadium
(10:51):
that the whole country can be proud of.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Let's get on into the chamber by remote. I might add,
because Jason pine Oh, he's a candy lad. He's managed
to find himself at All Black training ahead of this
Mercive test match coming at seven o'clock on Saturday. Piney,
welcome into the remote chamber. I trust you well, and
all I want to talk about for the next couple
of minutes. Is the All Black test? Because that's it, really,
(11:20):
isn't it.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Yeah, it is thanks to Arshi good to be here,
good that I won the flip of the coin between
you and I to get the trip to Dunedin. And yeah,
as I speak to you on Matt Forsyth bar Stadium,
whether All Blacks have just finished their captain's run. You
can never really tell too much from that. I think
it's more like a going through the motions. They practice
(11:41):
some line outs, they run around with the ball a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's nothing too intensive, but you.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Do get a bit of fizz, a bit of energy
that that feel anyway from this all Black side?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And why wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
You know, first test of a new year, first test
for a coaching regime that's wanted to get their hands
on these players for quite some time. Look, I really
can't wait for tomorrow night. I'm really looking forward to
seeing how this all plays out.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I don't know what you think.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Regime's an interesting raise, Jason? Where does that come from?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
The raises regime? Look, Look, I think it'll be an
exciting reging to watch.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
What do you I asked this question of a couple
of guys here, and I'll ask it to you. I
don't want to throw you on any busses, but who
which of the All Blacks players do you think this
test is most important for tomorrow night?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I think Scott Scooter Barrett, but without a doubt, this
is the first game under his control, his stewardship. There
was a bit of debate and discussion around the relevance
of having Scooter in this role as opposed to Ardie Savia.
A lot of people talk about his discipline. We know
he can lead men, we know he's got a connection
(12:52):
with Razor and his regime, his raised gene. What we
need to see from him is a standout performance and
a disciplined performance. So for me, it's really important for
the captain to start off on the front foot and
start off on a on a winning note.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Yeah, good answer. I'll go to a slightly less experienced player.
I think it's a really big test match for Stephen Petafetta.
You know he's been handed the fifteen jersey when really
I think we looked at the team yesterday when it
came out and.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
His was the name that raised the most eyebrows.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
But he's clearly been given an opportunity from Scott Robertson
to say, right, go in there and show me what
you can do in that number fifteen Jersey. A lot
of people thought that Voden Barrett would wear that out
onto Foresight bar tomorrow night. Note Stephen Petfedt is going
to get that opportunity. His opportunities at all Blacks level,
as we know das have been pretty limited, you know,
so I think it's a great opportunity for one of
(13:47):
the less experienced players and Stephen Petfetti to show us
what he's got tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm quite fascinated Piney about the style of play. Spoke
last night on Sports Talk about the naming of this
team and what does that say to us about what
they're going to put down on the park. I would
say it's conservative. With the selections there, there's not too
much of a play. Petal Fecta might be the bigger one,
but he's there to handle the high ball. So looking
(14:12):
at what they present on this part to an English team,
and let's not labor under expectations that it will be
a traditional English site, I don't think any of us
know exactly what they're going to present and that fascinates me.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, it does me too.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
You know, they've had a pretty good few months rarely
when you consider they only lost to South Africa in
the World Cup semi finals by a point. You know,
they were a kick away from going to the World
Cup final. Even in the Six Nations they beat Ireland
and only lost to France by a couple of points.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
So look, they've been there or thereabouts.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
I get the feeling, you know, from England that they'll
quietly fancy their chances here. They'll look at this all
Black side and think, look, they're not the you know,
the scary force that they have been in years gone by.
They're not the sort of team that you know is
going to really strike fear into our halves. This is
a you know, this is a pretty solid England team.
So back to the way that New Zealand will play. Look,
(15:07):
I think you'll see what a bit of kicking just
I just get that feel from especially when they've got
the ball in their own half, you know. And look
what's worked for Razor at the Crusaders. Why would he
deviate too much from that? As All Blacks coach, I
always got different players and in slightly different options at
his disposal. But I think what worked for Razor in
(15:30):
six seven years of unpressed in the success at the
Crusaders will be something that he'll just try and pick
up and drop down across the you know, the All
Blacks framework and see how he goes. But look under
the roof and duned in good conditions, two teams wanting
to really you make a statement again. So I just
(15:50):
think it's going to be a cracking contest and I
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
A quick exit thought from you, Piney. I'm not sure
if enough has been made around this. The key to
this game in victory is how the referee and his
staff are dealt with. We have a guy called Nick
Muschall Kelly. He is from Georgia, Berry and Way, and
a Guza from France as the TMO. Now Nika actually
(16:18):
had the whistle when New Zealand got beaten by Argentina.
Here should that have much to do with the game
the way he blows the whistle, remembering that all of
these players in the All Blacks have been playing super
rugby under slightly tweaked conditions ruling wise, that could have
a lot to do with it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Yeah, great, yeah, great point. What your hope is it doesn't.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
Right, if we get to nine o'clock tomorrow night and
we're not talking about the referee, then mission accomplished for
our Georgian friend.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
But you know, the referee can have as much or
as little impact on the game as he so chooses.
I guess you know that.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
I guess the English will be will be more used
to the Northern Hemisphere way of officiating. You're right, the
All Blacks are all coming out of Super Rugby where
it's done slightly differently.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I hope it doesn't have an impact us. That's all
I can say.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And on that we'll get on with your preparation. Of course,
look after yourself, Piney, see the.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
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Speaker 2 (17:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
I'm into the Sports Fix on Darcy Walder Grave and
on the fifth July twenty twenty four, this is it.
Along with Jason pine We're going to bring your daily
dose of talking sport. We're going to kick things off
with Mark Robinson, CEO of n Z are as we
look toward the Test match in Dunedin and beyond that
for the All Blacks and what is a huge season.
(00:44):
I've got some editorial thoughts for you around the naming
rights of major stadia, who pays for it, how much
do they pay and do they actually have a right
to do so? And then Piney joins us from All
Black Training as we'll throw around some concept and some
ideas about this huge Test match coming out five past
seven on Saturday with News Talk z B. Right, that's
(01:08):
our plan and let's do this. In other news, Let's
get an hear full of some of today's sports newsmakers. TJ.
Pittin as crashed his way back into the All Blacks
and made the cut to start tomorrow's English fixture. There
are plenty of questions around if he would return or not.
(01:28):
The Hurricanes teammate and All Black vice captain Addisavia had
no doubt at all.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I always know, like, if here's one person you want
by the side, it's Petty. He will never take no
for an answer. He's the most competitive person that I know,
so I for him to come back, it's not surprising.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
And like the Spanish Inquisition, no one can expect what
a definitive All Black style will be from coach Scott Robertson,
says English skipper Jack George.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
What they achieved with the Crusaders obviously is a huge
achievement in itself, so it's really exciting prospects. I think,
you know, there's obviously the you know, we sort of
know the players played again, the players probably don't know
what sort of system they might be bringing, so there's
an element of unknown in that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And former All Black pivot Richie Muana, back from his
Japanese sojourn, has got a severe case of fomo.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
I still feel like I'm in my prime.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
I'm teaking now.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Is you want to be playing for the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
And I want to be putting my name there. In
a couple of years time come World Cup and that's
the ultimate goal is heads to Australia and win a
World Cup.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
And for the more mature amongst this, fomos kids speak
for fear of missing out. So that's some sports today,
a little bit of modern vernacular for good measure leading
of X.
Speaker 7 (02:43):
We've got just the ticket. It's sports X. How my
news talks is.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
E joined it now by Mark Robinson, CEO of New
Zealand Rugby. As we look toward the start of what
will be and I keep using this word mark and
epic season. There is so much to look forward to.
It really is a clean slate, is it not. You
must be stoked to be talking about this the rugby
(03:09):
on the part the coaches, the players as opposed to
any of that administrative stuff that's basically been haunting endsit
are for so long.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Hi Darcy. Yeah, and great to be with the listeners. Yeah,
we are excited. You know. I'm down and got into
Dunedin on on Wednesday night. The town's slowly filling up.
It feels like we've just come out of a few
meetings about to you know, get out and watch a
bit of training, like you say, and get around the
rugby and checking with our team. So Louis are really excited.
(03:39):
This is an amazing series to start off a new
regime of of of management and rais his tenure as coach,
and also for the exciting new talent we've seen comes
through as well. And then you extend into the season,
I'm sure you want to talk about the the other
things we're doing in the States and Rugby Championship as well,
and any of your tour is a massive, massive tour
with the my tiner, we have so lots to look
(04:03):
forward to and get excited about for the punters.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
So how complicit have you been with the act all
players and the coaching stuff. Do you get in and
maybe have a chat or contribute anything or is it
a case of I'm just going to stay well away
from you guys. I'm what you call the fish head.
I've got no place.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
Well, yeah, I guess having been a former player, I
understand you know what the environments are like pretty well. Look,
I spend a little bit of time here and there
that the team has some social connection times through the
through the week. I try to get into that I
catch up with the management occasionally if they have a
weekly dinner, I'll pop my head in and obviously with them,
(04:41):
you know, after the games and try to get to
the odd training. So yeah, I'm I try to be
around where I can, Darcy, but certainly certainly not in
any way other than being supportive in general and and
you know, just just being around to show that we
really care and a ride and behind this group. Certainly,
no advice on selection tactics or anything like that. I'm
well past that and my technical rugby knowledge now. When
(05:04):
I listen to you know, some of these guys talk
about it, it truly feels like a different game from
my day. But definitely there to support them and make
sure they've got everything they need to succeed.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
It must be great now that Scott Robinson's actually in
the seat, Mark Robinson, it's been a long time and
he's been waiting. There were issues around the way he
was appointed, but that is rerevision mirror stuff. Now it's
all about looking to what Scott can do in this role.
He's been in front of the media now he sleeped
at a squad and his team. How satisfied are you
with the way he's handled what is a pretty explosive
(05:35):
start to the season before we've even played today.
Speaker 6 (05:40):
Oh look, he's done an outstanding job coming in. If
you go back to the end of last year, he
obviously spent time with the board and stakeholders before Christmas,
set out a bit of a plan and a vision
for how he was going to take the role on
and how he saw the leadership of the All Blacks
into this year. You know, him and I have spent
(06:01):
a bit of time in the Northern Hemisphere with our partners. Again,
he's been very open and accessible around the media without
sort of diminishing the airtime that we needed to create
to give to Super Rugby, you know, to be a
really prominent competition as it has been in a really
strong success and you know, I guess as the start
of the English series has gotten closer, he's really narrative
(06:23):
focus around as you say, selection and preparation and getting
team ready, which he should do. So I look, we're
really really happy. You look at the way him and
his team are integrating across all of our national teams.
That's really outstanding. We've had Leon and Jace Ryan away
with the twenties during the Rugby Championship. Great result from them,
(06:44):
you know, overnight beating France in a big match in
South Africa. So he's seeing some of the benefits of
that alignment coming through that. Others are those coaches in
with the sevens teams as well. So lots lots of alignment,
lots of connection, which talks about a lot and a
lot of work to make sure the rugby side of
(07:04):
the program is really well joined up. So looking forward
to seeing them get out there now, and I think
the whole country is and that's really exciting to us.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You said regime, interesting choice of words for Razer. How
has this changed from what you can see under and
I won't say regime, but under Ian Foster's control. Has
there been any market difference in the way this has
been handled? Approach looked after? Have you, I suppose, moved
forward from that last coaching group.
Speaker 6 (07:33):
Oh look, I think you know the way you framed
it before, Darcy. You know that people know about the
background of that and we are we are focused on
going forward. But a lot of the stuff I've described
in Raises six months is there's been really energizing for
the organization and the game, and I think a lot
of our stakeholders, the way they've engaged with Super Rugby,
the way they've engaged with the media. You know, we're
(07:55):
focusing on them now and it's their time. And we
have a huge amount of respect for the people that
have gone before, both on and off the field, around
the All Blacks over a large period of time, and
that will always be the but this is a the
evolution of the team and the environment and as I say,
we're looking forward to really supporting them. Make the most
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of your journey.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Great stuff, Hey you or Mark Robinson. I was gonna
call you Robo, but I'm told not to be so
casual anymore. So, mister Robinson, thank you very much for
your time. Are you over a wonderful weekend and enjoy
the upcoming season. It promises so much. Let's hope it delivers.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Thank you, mister water Grove. That's great.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
This is Sportsfix, your daily does of sports news now
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Speaker 2 (08:39):
Zby right, you're getting a brand new stadium. It is Takaha,
or it was Takaha. It will still remain Tokaha as
the land it is being built on and the precinct
surrounding this new roof thirty thousand plus stadium will be
known as Tikaharoa. But yesterday we were informed that the
telco one that New Zealand has climbed in, peeled off
(09:02):
some notes and bought themselves naming rights for this new stadium.
From now on end it will be known as the
one New Zealand Stadium. Like I understand, are the commercial
realities of building stadium, of indeed injecting money into sports.
These people have a lot of cash, they want to
spend it. They want the advertising, they want the profile,
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so they go ahead. What I'm not entirely comfortable with
is when the government and the Council i e. Our
taxes and our rates in the case of christ Church
residents stump up six hundred and fifty million dollars to
build this, and a telco for a bit of change
wander in and take the naming rights. There are a
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number of venues globally if you tried changing the name
or introducing a sponsor, regardless of how much money they
brought in, it wouldn't go down well at all. I
talk of the mcg of Old Trafford, of Wembley, even
Eden Park Twicken them. Possibly it would not work. But
let's face it, the sad reality is without someone else's money,
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these nice things will simply not be possible. I would
like One New Zealand, not that they ever listened to
me to change the name One New Zealand Takaha Stadium,
A tipping of the cap to where this structure is
built and where it came from. Look, call it what
you will. We know what it's going to be a
(10:29):
fantastic piece of infrastructure for the community. So you can
call it to Kaha, you can call it One New
Zealand Stadium. You can call it Lancaster Park two point zero.
For all I care, you can call it Jeff. All
we really want is for the doors to open so
we can get high quality covered sport and a stadium
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that the whole country can be proud of.
Speaker 7 (10:54):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Let's get on into the chamber by remote. I might add,
because Jason pine Oh, he's a candy lad. He's managed
to find himself at All Black training ahead of this
Mercive test match coming at seven o'clock on Saturday. Piney,
welcome into the remote chamber. I trust you well, and
all I want to talk about for the next couple
of minutes. Is the All Black test? Because that's it, really,
(11:20):
isn't it.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
Yeah, it is thanks to Arshi good to be here,
good that I won the flip of the coin between
you and I to get the trip to Dunedin. And yeah,
as I speak to you on Matt Forsyth bar Stadium,
whether All Blacks have just finished their captain's run. You
can never really tell too much from that. I think
it's more like a going through the motions. They practice
(11:41):
some line outs, they run around with the ball a
little bit.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
It's nothing too intensive, but you.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
Do get a bit of fizz, a bit of energy
that that feel anyway from this all Black side?
Speaker 5 (11:50):
And why wouldn't.
Speaker 8 (11:51):
You know, first test of a new year, first test
for a coaching regime that's wanted to get their hands
on these players for quite some time. Look, I really
can't wait for tomorrow night. I'm really looking forward to
seeing how this all plays out.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I don't know what you think.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Regime's an interesting raise, Jason? Where does that come from?
Speaker 5 (12:11):
The raises regime? Look, Look, I think it'll be an
exciting reging to watch.
Speaker 8 (12:18):
What do you I asked this question of a couple
of guys here, and I'll ask it to you. I
don't want to throw you on any busses, but who
which of the All Blacks players do you think this
test is most important for tomorrow night?
Speaker 2 (12:30):
I think Scott Scooter Barrett, but without a doubt, this
is the first game under his control, his stewardship. There
was a bit of debate and discussion around the relevance
of having Scooter in this role as opposed to Ardie Savia.
A lot of people talk about his discipline. We know
he can lead men, we know he's got a connection
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with Razor and his regime, his raised gene. What we
need to see from him is a standout performance and
a disciplined performance. So for me, it's really important for
the captain to start off on the front foot and
start off on a on a winning note.
Speaker 8 (13:09):
Yeah, good answer. I'll go to a slightly less experienced player.
I think it's a really big test match for Stephen Petafetta.
You know he's been handed the fifteen jersey when really
I think we looked at the team yesterday when it
came out and.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
His was the name that raised the most eyebrows.
Speaker 8 (13:25):
But he's clearly been given an opportunity from Scott Robertson
to say, right, go in there and show me what
you can do in that number fifteen Jersey. A lot
of people thought that Voden Barrett would wear that out
onto Foresight bar tomorrow night. Note Stephen Petfedt is going
to get that opportunity. His opportunities at all Blacks level,
as we know das have been pretty limited, you know,
so I think it's a great opportunity for one of
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the less experienced players and Stephen Petfetti to show us
what he's got tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm quite fascinated Piney about the style of play. Spoke
last night on Sports Talk about the naming of this
team and what does that say to us about what
they're going to put down on the park. I would
say it's conservative. With the selections there, there's not too
much of a play. Petal Fecta might be the bigger one,
but he's there to handle the high ball. So looking
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at what they present on this part to an English team,
and let's not labor under expectations that it will be
a traditional English site, I don't think any of us
know exactly what they're going to present and that fascinates me.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, it does me too.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
You know, they've had a pretty good few months rarely
when you consider they only lost to South Africa in
the World Cup semi finals by a point. You know,
they were a kick away from going to the World
Cup final. Even in the Six Nations they beat Ireland
and only lost to France by a couple of points.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
So look, they've been there or thereabouts.
Speaker 8 (14:47):
I get the feeling, you know, from England that they'll
quietly fancy their chances here. They'll look at this all
Black side and think, look, they're not the you know,
the scary force that they have been in years gone by.
They're not the sort of team that you know is
going to really strike fear into our halves. This is
a you know, this is a pretty solid England team.
So back to the way that New Zealand will play. Look,
(15:07):
I think you'll see what a bit of kicking just
I just get that feel from especially when they've got
the ball in their own half, you know. And look
what's worked for Razor at the Crusaders. Why would he
deviate too much from that? As All Blacks coach, I
always got different players and in slightly different options at
his disposal. But I think what worked for Razor in
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six seven years of unpressed in the success at the
Crusaders will be something that he'll just try and pick
up and drop down across the you know, the All
Blacks framework and see how he goes. But look under
the roof and duned in good conditions, two teams wanting
to really you make a statement again. So I just
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think it's going to be a cracking contest and I
can't wait.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
A quick exit thought from you, Piney. I'm not sure
if enough has been made around this. The key to
this game in victory is how the referee and his
staff are dealt with. We have a guy called Nick
Muschall Kelly. He is from Georgia, Berry and Way, and
a Guza from France as the TMO. Now Nika actually
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had the whistle when New Zealand got beaten by Argentina.
Here should that have much to do with the game
the way he blows the whistle, remembering that all of
these players in the All Blacks have been playing super
rugby under slightly tweaked conditions ruling wise, that could have
a lot to do with it.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
Yeah, great, yeah, great point. What your hope is it doesn't.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
Right, if we get to nine o'clock tomorrow night and
we're not talking about the referee, then mission accomplished for
our Georgian friend.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
But you know, the referee can have as much or
as little impact on the game as he so chooses.
I guess you know that.
Speaker 8 (16:55):
I guess the English will be will be more used
to the Northern Hemisphere way of officiating. You're right, the
All Blacks are all coming out of Super Rugby where
it's done slightly differently.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
I hope it doesn't have an impact us. That's all
I can say.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
And on that we'll get on with your preparation. Of course,
look after yourself, Piney, see the.
Speaker 7 (17:14):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sports Fix with Jason Vine
and Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Run and dust. That is Sports Fix for the fifth
of July twenty twenty four. I'm Darcy Waltergrave on behalf
of Jason Pine. Thank you very much for downloading. Of course,
subscribe to this podcast. You know you should, and if
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(17:41):
And then Piney, well he's got the show between twelve
and three, that is Weekend Sport on Saturday and Sunday.
You look after Yourself, Cheer Loud, Playfair and goiden Son.
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