November 7, 2024 • 18 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 8th November 2024, The All Blacks are preparing for their test against Ireland, the first time the two teams have faced off since the 2023 Rugby World Cup Quarter Finals - Rugby commentator Tony Johnson gives his thoughts on what the All Blacks need to do to win.
Piney gets caught up with all the hype around the test match.
Plus, the lads discuss swearing in Formula 1, and Chris Woods outrageous goal scoring form.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there, and welcome into the Sports Fixed podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You've safely reached the.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
End of the working week. That is, the course of
your working week is Monday to Friday. There's November the
eighth that I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
My name is Darcy walder Grave.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And of course still working week.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We'll say he's just started, hasn't it. Mine finishes just
the time the all let's chick off tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Speaking of which, who have we.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Got to kind of unpack some of the big storylines
of that test match with us on the podcast today.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
One of my favorites of a long time twenty plus
years in this industry, Tony Johnson always contributes and he
does it very very well. His opinions and thoughts around
what is coming up tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Looking forward to hearing from TJ. You and I will
have a bit of a jam about it as well.
I've got some thoughts on Chris Wood. I'm going to
ask you about swearing in formula one, which I'm you've
used on it well. But rather than talk about it
and preview it, let's get into it in other news,
Let's get underway, as always with some of the big
(01:21):
sports stories floating around this Friday, All Black Santa Rico
Yowani keen to move on from the feud with retired
Irish first five Johnny Sexton ahead of tomorrow morning's Test
in Dublin. This stuff that happens on the field, that
is all part of the game, and I don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Too much of it. So yeah, that's that's well.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
At the moment, Will Young preparing to let his bat
do the talking on the white ball tour of Schrilancher
He's going to pad up on Sunday's first T twenty
and Dan Buller striving to push his claims to stay
in the Test side for the upcoming home series against England.
There hasn't been any chats around the squad for that
England series just yet.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm sure those chats are.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Going on behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
At the moment, we just sort of sit back and
wait for Gary and the selectors to do their thing.
And Wellington Phoenix head coach John Calotelliano has rebuffed suggestions
of mind games in the lead up to the A
League Football Derby lost to Walkland FC. Skipper Alex Rufer
was on the injured list ahead of the game, but
eventually he played.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Situation was injured against Perth and we managed it through
the week and we made a call on Thursday that
he wouldn't play and then Saturday passed the fitness test
and that's it.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Use and a vinion.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's Sports Fix with Jason Hine and Dussy Walter Grave and.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
It's a warm welcome to the program to Tony Johnson DJ.
Welcome on Border Trust. You're excited and.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Well, yeah, this is again that I think a lot
of us have been waiting for for a long time.
It's probably the focal point of the whole tour because
I think Ireland has now become a measuring stick. The
team has achieved great things over the last decade and
beating the All Blacks, you know, with some frequency now
and so I think this is going to be a
real measure of where this team has come under its
(03:04):
new coaching staff and just you know how well they
came of playing in a really I think very challenging circumstance.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Are you expecting a victory.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
No, no, I'm not. I don't think we can do
that anymore. You know, we just have to be realistic
about things. The world has changed and balances of power
have shifted. You know, the All Blacks had an absolutely
fantastic era, probably really started when Graham Henry took over,
right through towards the end of the twenty nineteen World Cup.
(03:36):
They were the pre eminent team in the world, even
when they didn't win the trophy. Bart. The fact of
the matter is other teams have gotten better. We've lost
Not only have we lost a lot of good players,
either to retirement or to more lucrative pastures, we've lost
a lot of intellectual property with the number of New
Zealand coaches that are applying their trade off shore. And
(04:00):
you know, we run into another one of them this weekend,
and Andrew Goodman, a man who's so well versed in
the ways of Scott Robertson, and you know Scott Hansen,
Jason Ryan, you know he's coaching with Ireland. So and
you know, other teams have gotten better. Maybe at the
moment we're just in a patch where we're rebuilding, and
so I don't think we can expect we can't demand wins.
(04:21):
We just hope for them and if the team plays well,
I think they're capable of doing it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The bookies have got Ireland firm favorites at two six sorry,
one forty five and the All Blacks outside at two sixty.
Is that warranted? Is there that much of a spread
between the two sides? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Well, and all the time I've been following the game,
you know, it's not often you see odds like that
facing the All Blacks. But I think you have to
consider a couple of factors. First of all, the All
Blacks they've been off its stitched up here really, I mean,
having to turn around six days after playing England at Twickenham.
You know, they don't get a full week to prepare
for a team that it's kind of you know, there's
always that debate who is the best team in the world,
(05:01):
But if they're not number one, they certainly number two,
and so that that's difficult. And also, you know, with
a couple of important personnel ruled out of this game,
it's not going to be easy. But having said that again,
Ireland they haven't had a game for a while, they
had last week off, they've been training in Portugal and
so you know it, there's a chance that you might
(05:24):
be able to catch them just a little bit ring
rusty something like that. But the fact is that the
odds are absolutely stacked in favor of Ireland. And if
the All Blacks can win this game, I think it'll
be a remarkable achievement.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And Tony Johnson joining us looking at our Ireland and
the All Blacks team. Past nine in the morning, gloor
is time to watch a bit of rugby. Who carries
the weight of expectation and pressure the best, because if
you look at World Cup quarter finals, Ireland always drop it.
But they've had our measure of recent times. They'll be
under a lot though they're at home. Yea, that they win,
(05:56):
it's a huge amount of pressure for them to absorb.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, it's something that they're still having to get used to,
and that is you know that they're no longer the hunters.
They're no longer the team that you know would play
gallantly and with great passion and fire and just sort
of fall away at the end and everyone would say,
well they gave it a great crack. That isn't the
case anymore, and so they have to live with the
(06:20):
expectation now. Now. To be fair to them, they did
get a very good win against the spring Box, narrow
but still a win against the spring Box in South
Africa earlier on this year. That is nothing to be
sniffed at, so you know, and it's not a World Cup.
They haven't got that monkey on their back. They're playing
at the Aviva in front of their own fans and
(06:40):
their own conditions against an All Black team that hasn't
had a routine weeks preparation, and I you know, they
should be confident. You know, what the All Blacks have
to do is firstly start well, maybe just shake things
up a little bit. But what they can't afford to
do is allow Ireland any leeway at all through bad
(07:03):
discipline and just going through patches where the ball gets dropped.
You know, they turned the ball over twenty times last
week and I think you know, two thirds of the
way through the game the penalty counts nine to two against.
You can't you won't get away with that at the
Aviva because Ireland are a very efficient team. They you know,
the way they attack, they simply come at you in
waves and they build pressure really well. And it's a
(07:28):
good blueprint. So you know, the All Blacks will have
to make massive improvements on those two areas of their game.
Plus also you know their line out, they've got to
make sure that they're set pieces solid. So they've got
to get a lot of things right and if they do,
you know, I think there's the talent in the team,
that's the ability to break open a defense in that
(07:49):
All Black side, that makes them capable of winning.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Tony Johnson, thanks for your time and opinion.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
As always, Cheers Darcy sports Fax Sense Sex Sense.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It is easily the most highly anticipated All Blacks Taste
of twenty twenty four. Tomorrow morning, nine o'clock our time,
All Blacks, Island, Dublin. Here are some facts, not opinions.
These are fat. The last time the two played of
courtse the All Blacks won twenty eight twenty four in
the Rugby World Cup quarter final last year. Ireland won
five of the eight before that, dating back to twenty sixteen.
(08:19):
Ireland currently number one in the men's World Rugby rankings.
We're third the All Blacks without Cody Taylor and Boden
Barrett through concussion. The All Blacks have only had a
six day turnaround after they win over England, normally they
get a full week. Ireland haven't played a tests since
mid July when they beat South Africa twenty five twenty four.
The tab currently has Ireland at a dollar forty seven
(08:41):
and New Zealand at two dollars sixty to win the
test match. Those are the facts, and as a lawyer
would say, our guests, they are not in dispute. Of course,
none of those facts really matter, do they. They can
give us a guide, they can give us some talking
points with our rugby mate. They can help us to
start drawing some possible conclusions about what might happen in
(09:03):
this game. But none of us really know, do we,
Just like we didn't really know ahead of the quarter
final last year, the Irish and their fans thought they knew.
They were supremely confident this was their time, except it wasn't. Instead,
it was one of the great allbacks performances, the best
of the Ian Fosty era for sure, and the Irish
(09:24):
went home before the Rugby World Cup semi finals.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yet again.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
The stakes, of course, nowhere near as high as that tomorrow,
but it is still a very important Test match for
Scott Robertson in many ways. His first year as head
coach can almost be singularly determined by what happens in
this one win and twenty twenty four is probably a success,
regardless of what happens against France next week. Lose tomorrow morning, though,
(09:48):
and he's in grave danger of five Test defeats in
his first year at the Helm. As Test matches go
outside of World Cups. This is about as big as
it gets.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Strap in the Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Let us both gather in the chamber dar and chat
through some of the sporting issues of the day. I've
heard from Tony Johnson has very articulate thoughts on this
All Blacks Island Test match tomorrow morning. Any particular thing
about this test, any storyline, any feature of it that
you are particularly interested in.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Book he's giving the All Blacks six dollars fifty to
win thirteen plus. There's my interest that is increase.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I mean, I don't recall and you talk about those odds,
but also they head to head odds. Have we ever
been against an opponent who are paying a dollar forty
seven to win the game? I can't remember anyone being
that short against us.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Can you verses two sixty. It is astonishing, but as
Tony pointed out shifting of the sands, as far as
the power bases concerned, this All Blacks team is not
a team. And I asked him this lasting the same thing.
Are you expecting to win? Because most people I don't
think are now and that's a bit weird.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I took all we straw pole around the office actually
ahead of leaping into the chamber today and it was
very much fifty to fifty. Does I got to say,
it's you know, and you know there's obviously we're talking
about people who are in our industry who follow sport
fairly closely so they can make an educated I was
not gonna say, guess an educated viewpoint on it. It's
very much fifty fifty. I think it's one of those
(11:25):
where you couldn't confidently predict one while the other could
you No.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
You can't. What I am looking forward to is how
the Irish stand up to the immense weight of seeking
revenge from the quarter final defeat. In fact, the last
couple at the hands of the All Blacks in front
of a home crowd with our warm favorites. Does this
crush them? Or do they stand up to it, and
(11:50):
I don't know how they're going to respond.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, I mean, what a place to go for the
All Blacks and win a Test match a you know,
into that cauldron where as you say everybody, well, I'd
say most people inside Aviva are going to be wearing green,
cheering for Green, absolutely salivating for a Green win. What
a place to go and win a Test match? I mean,
what a stamp on this All Blacks team under Scott Robertson.
(12:14):
That would be if they were to emerge victorious tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
If they don't, is it really a bigin?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Do you really go?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
What's failure? They beat England last week and yeah it
was close, but it was still a victory. France to
come next week. How much hangs on this for Scott
Robertson and his team? Do you think pine quite a bit?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I reckon quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I reckon because if you were to lose this, as
I just said in my little comment piece, if you
to lose this, then you're staring down the barrel of
going to France, and you know they'll be up for
it as well. You could be staring down the barrel
of five losses in your first year as All Blacks
head coach. I'm not sure that's a great look. I'm
not saying raises under any pressure for his job, but
losing five tests in your first year is All Blacks coach?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Not sure?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Now, while we'll see who responds the best, and I
think from a personnel point of view, a lot of
us are really looking forward to seeing if what a
Satiti can carry on the magnificent form he's shown. I'm
sure there's plenty of irish eyes that won't be smiling
at him if he can unleash. But a lot on
him because he's been great so far. But you're only
as good as your next game, right.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, that's so right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean he has been spectacular and I would back
him to be good again. How worried are you about
us throwing the ball into the lineout?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I'm more worried about discipline. Look, it may or may
not work the line out. Yeah, stuff has got a
lot to work to do around that. But I look
right across and I'll go back to one of my
favorite quotes from Todd Black at her back in the
day about the winning and the losing of the game.
One word discipline and we've seen discipline collapse in the
hands of the All Blacks and some of the turnovers,
(13:49):
some of the era's mistakes they made. I don't think
the Irish will be as kind on them as the
English were.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You you can't and well, I think we kept England
in the game last week, didn't we with with penalties
and kickable positions? They went up in threes and it
was enough for them to stay well and truly in
the hunt until late in that game.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So that can't be.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That can't be something that lets, you know, let's slip
tomorrow some more, some more discipline. Yellow cards as well?
Does I think we've had one on each of the
last six or seven Test matches. We could do without those,
could we?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
They have not taking money on it. I thought I'd
go into the website and find out what the odds
were in a red carter or a yellow cart. You're
not there?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
They've closed? The book doesn't seem inevitable. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't know. All right, Well, at nine o'clock tomorrow
morning and just after you can catch the commentary with
Alliot Smith and Gregor Paul on News Talk, said, be hey,
I wanted to ask you about swearing, not in general terms,
because I know you're one of the great swearers off
air that I've ever come across. You know, you know,
it's a great pleasure to listen to you go on
a foul mouthed rant on occasion. How do you feel
about Formula one drivers that they've asked the governing body
(14:53):
to treat them like adults for stapping Leclair recently punished
for using supposedly foul language.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
What's your what's your take.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
On this is ridiculous and the fact that the Grand
Prix Drivers Association have come out and see cease and desist,
we don't want it any more. This is the new
boss of the FIO of the last year or so.
His name is Mohammed Ben Sillyam. He is a rally
driver of actually some repute's pretty good at what he does.
But he's turned up and he's getting his nose in
where it's not wanted on social media, and not only
(15:24):
about the swearing, other things as well, the jewelry that
they're wear, even their underpants and what they wear underneath.
He's just sticking his beacon too much. He's stuck his
beacon around.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
The value of the Formula one.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Circus too, which is upset Liberty media who own it.
He's got some pretty unsavory anti women comments from you know,
a decade ago on social media, so I think he's
causing a bit of trouble. Look, he said they want
to differentiate between F one and rap music, and Lewis
Hamble just came out, well, most rappers are black, So
(16:01):
this is just thinly veiled racism. How could you say this?
And look, the fine was nothing. It was ten thousand
euro from a clique he's on thirty four million a year.
And then when they see Max Verst stepping off for
community service, I think he hung around with the stewards
for an afternoon and that's.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
All he did.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
But I don't know what it is trying to sanitize
what these guys do. It's a terrifically exciting, scary and
dangerous sport. And if they want to release I mean,
if you ever heard a huddle and basketball, I mean,
come on, they're people, right.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That is well summed up without the use of a
swear word at all from you, Darcy.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
When people meet me, Biney.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
They always say, on Earth you get through an hour
or two hours, three hours of radio without dropping the
bomb so well, because when I'm not on here, I
get rid of it. I expell it before I get
the micro on.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I think we've both got this ability to walk into
a place where a microphone is and just leave those
words out of our vocamp me.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I need you to talk about football. I've had my
Formula one rand. What's going on with Chris Wood.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I just wanted to mention Chris Wood right at the
end of this week because this morning he was a
PFA Premier League Play of the Month for October that
is voted for by his fellow professionals. So to be
voted for as the best player in the Premier League
in the month of October by your fellow pros is
quite something.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
We know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Chris Wood's on a tear goal scoring wise eight in
the Premier League so father season in ten matches, second
only to one Earling Harland.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
He's the only bloke who's got more than Chris Wood.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
He is He is well aware of his own game now,
knows exactly where to be, what to do when he's there.
And Nottingham Forest fans absolutely adore Chris Wood.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Right now and I just thought he was worth a
mentioned right at the end.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Absolutely, from the striking Viking to the dare I say it,
the kicking Kiwi? I mean, what else can we call him? Right? Piney,
I'm sorry I said that. I'm going to leave the
room right now and swear it myself.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Get out of the chamber and we're back in the
chape next week.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
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Thankfully, man, he might say, for today.
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(18:35):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Hello there, and welcome into the Sports Fixed podcast.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You've safely reached the.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
End of the working week. That is, the course of
your working week is Monday to Friday. There's November the
eighth that I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
My name is Darcy walder Grave.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
And of course still working week.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
We'll say he's just started, hasn't it. Mine finishes just
the time the all let's chick off tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Speaking of which, who have we.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Got to kind of unpack some of the big storylines
of that test match with us on the podcast today.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
One of my favorites of a long time twenty plus
years in this industry, Tony Johnson always contributes and he
does it very very well. His opinions and thoughts around
what is coming up tomorrow morning.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Looking forward to hearing from TJ. You and I will
have a bit of a jam about it as well.
I've got some thoughts on Chris Wood. I'm going to
ask you about swearing in formula one, which I'm you've
used on it well. But rather than talk about it
and preview it, let's get into it in other news,
Let's get underway, as always with some of the big
(01:21):
sports stories floating around this Friday, All Black Santa Rico
Yowani keen to move on from the feud with retired
Irish first five Johnny Sexton ahead of tomorrow morning's Test
in Dublin. This stuff that happens on the field, that
is all part of the game, and I don't think.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Too much of it. So yeah, that's that's well.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
At the moment, Will Young preparing to let his bat
do the talking on the white ball tour of Schrilancher
He's going to pad up on Sunday's first T twenty
and Dan Buller striving to push his claims to stay
in the Test side for the upcoming home series against England.
There hasn't been any chats around the squad for that
England series just yet.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
I'm sure those chats are.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Going on behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
At the moment, we just sort of sit back and
wait for Gary and the selectors to do their thing.
And Wellington Phoenix head coach John Calotelliano has rebuffed suggestions
of mind games in the lead up to the A
League Football Derby lost to Walkland FC. Skipper Alex Rufer
was on the injured list ahead of the game, but
eventually he played.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
Situation was injured against Perth and we managed it through
the week and we made a call on Thursday that
he wouldn't play and then Saturday passed the fitness test
and that's it.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Use and a vinion.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
It's Sports Fix with Jason Hine and Dussy Walter Grave and.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
It's a warm welcome to the program to Tony Johnson DJ.
Welcome on Border Trust. You're excited and.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Well, yeah, this is again that I think a lot
of us have been waiting for for a long time.
It's probably the focal point of the whole tour because
I think Ireland has now become a measuring stick. The
team has achieved great things over the last decade and
beating the All Blacks, you know, with some frequency now
and so I think this is going to be a
real measure of where this team has come under its
(03:04):
new coaching staff and just you know how well they
came of playing in a really I think very challenging circumstance.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Are you expecting a victory.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
No, no, I'm not. I don't think we can do
that anymore. You know, we just have to be realistic
about things. The world has changed and balances of power
have shifted. You know, the All Blacks had an absolutely
fantastic era, probably really started when Graham Henry took over,
right through towards the end of the twenty nineteen World Cup.
(03:36):
They were the pre eminent team in the world, even
when they didn't win the trophy. Bart. The fact of
the matter is other teams have gotten better. We've lost
Not only have we lost a lot of good players,
either to retirement or to more lucrative pastures, we've lost
a lot of intellectual property with the number of New
Zealand coaches that are applying their trade off shore. And
(04:00):
you know, we run into another one of them this weekend,
and Andrew Goodman, a man who's so well versed in
the ways of Scott Robertson, and you know Scott Hansen,
Jason Ryan, you know he's coaching with Ireland. So and
you know, other teams have gotten better. Maybe at the
moment we're just in a patch where we're rebuilding, and
so I don't think we can expect we can't demand wins.
(04:21):
We just hope for them and if the team plays well,
I think they're capable of doing it.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
The bookies have got Ireland firm favorites at two six sorry,
one forty five and the All Blacks outside at two sixty.
Is that warranted? Is there that much of a spread
between the two sides? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Well, and all the time I've been following the game,
you know, it's not often you see odds like that
facing the All Blacks. But I think you have to
consider a couple of factors. First of all, the All
Blacks they've been off its stitched up here really, I mean,
having to turn around six days after playing England at Twickenham.
You know, they don't get a full week to prepare
for a team that it's kind of you know, there's
always that debate who is the best team in the world,
(05:01):
But if they're not number one, they certainly number two,
and so that that's difficult. And also, you know, with
a couple of important personnel ruled out of this game,
it's not going to be easy. But having said that again,
Ireland they haven't had a game for a while, they
had last week off, they've been training in Portugal and
so you know it, there's a chance that you might
(05:24):
be able to catch them just a little bit ring
rusty something like that. But the fact is that the
odds are absolutely stacked in favor of Ireland. And if
the All Blacks can win this game, I think it'll
be a remarkable achievement.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And Tony Johnson joining us looking at our Ireland and
the All Blacks team. Past nine in the morning, gloor
is time to watch a bit of rugby. Who carries
the weight of expectation and pressure the best, because if
you look at World Cup quarter finals, Ireland always drop it.
But they've had our measure of recent times. They'll be
under a lot though they're at home. Yea, that they win,
(05:56):
it's a huge amount of pressure for them to absorb.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
Yeah, it's something that they're still having to get used to,
and that is you know that they're no longer the hunters.
They're no longer the team that you know would play
gallantly and with great passion and fire and just sort
of fall away at the end and everyone would say,
well they gave it a great crack. That isn't the
case anymore, and so they have to live with the
(06:20):
expectation now. Now. To be fair to them, they did
get a very good win against the spring Box, narrow
but still a win against the spring Box in South
Africa earlier on this year. That is nothing to be
sniffed at, so you know, and it's not a World Cup.
They haven't got that monkey on their back. They're playing
at the Aviva in front of their own fans and
(06:40):
their own conditions against an All Black team that hasn't
had a routine weeks preparation, and I you know, they
should be confident. You know, what the All Blacks have
to do is firstly start well, maybe just shake things
up a little bit. But what they can't afford to
do is allow Ireland any leeway at all through bad
(07:03):
discipline and just going through patches where the ball gets dropped.
You know, they turned the ball over twenty times last
week and I think you know, two thirds of the
way through the game the penalty counts nine to two against.
You can't you won't get away with that at the
Aviva because Ireland are a very efficient team. They you know,
the way they attack, they simply come at you in
waves and they build pressure really well. And it's a
(07:28):
good blueprint. So you know, the All Blacks will have
to make massive improvements on those two areas of their game.
Plus also you know their line out, they've got to
make sure that they're set pieces solid. So they've got
to get a lot of things right and if they do,
you know, I think there's the talent in the team,
that's the ability to break open a defense in that
(07:49):
All Black side, that makes them capable of winning.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Tony Johnson, thanks for your time and opinion.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
As always, Cheers Darcy sports Fax Sense Sex Sense.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
It is easily the most highly anticipated All Blacks Taste
of twenty twenty four. Tomorrow morning, nine o'clock our time,
All Blacks, Island, Dublin. Here are some facts, not opinions.
These are fat. The last time the two played of
courtse the All Blacks won twenty eight twenty four in
the Rugby World Cup quarter final last year. Ireland won
five of the eight before that, dating back to twenty sixteen.
(08:19):
Ireland currently number one in the men's World Rugby rankings.
We're third the All Blacks without Cody Taylor and Boden
Barrett through concussion. The All Blacks have only had a
six day turnaround after they win over England, normally they
get a full week. Ireland haven't played a tests since
mid July when they beat South Africa twenty five twenty four.
The tab currently has Ireland at a dollar forty seven
(08:41):
and New Zealand at two dollars sixty to win the
test match. Those are the facts, and as a lawyer
would say, our guests, they are not in dispute. Of course,
none of those facts really matter, do they. They can
give us a guide, they can give us some talking
points with our rugby mate. They can help us to
start drawing some possible conclusions about what might happen in
(09:03):
this game. But none of us really know, do we,
Just like we didn't really know ahead of the quarter
final last year, the Irish and their fans thought they knew.
They were supremely confident this was their time, except it wasn't. Instead,
it was one of the great allbacks performances, the best
of the Ian Fosty era for sure, and the Irish
(09:24):
went home before the Rugby World Cup semi finals.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Yet again.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
The stakes, of course, nowhere near as high as that tomorrow,
but it is still a very important Test match for
Scott Robertson in many ways. His first year as head
coach can almost be singularly determined by what happens in
this one win and twenty twenty four is probably a success,
regardless of what happens against France next week. Lose tomorrow morning, though,
(09:48):
and he's in grave danger of five Test defeats in
his first year at the Helm. As Test matches go
outside of World Cups. This is about as big as
it gets.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Strap in the Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Let us both gather in the chamber dar and chat
through some of the sporting issues of the day. I've
heard from Tony Johnson has very articulate thoughts on this
All Blacks Island Test match tomorrow morning. Any particular thing
about this test, any storyline, any feature of it that
you are particularly interested in.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Book he's giving the All Blacks six dollars fifty to
win thirteen plus. There's my interest that is increase.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I mean, I don't recall and you talk about those odds,
but also they head to head odds. Have we ever
been against an opponent who are paying a dollar forty
seven to win the game? I can't remember anyone being
that short against us.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Can you verses two sixty. It is astonishing, but as
Tony pointed out shifting of the sands, as far as
the power bases concerned, this All Blacks team is not
a team. And I asked him this lasting the same thing.
Are you expecting to win? Because most people I don't
think are now and that's a bit weird.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
I took all we straw pole around the office actually
ahead of leaping into the chamber today and it was
very much fifty to fifty. Does I got to say,
it's you know, and you know there's obviously we're talking
about people who are in our industry who follow sport
fairly closely so they can make an educated I was
not gonna say, guess an educated viewpoint on it. It's
very much fifty fifty. I think it's one of those
(11:25):
where you couldn't confidently predict one while the other could
you No.
Speaker 4 (11:29):
You can't. What I am looking forward to is how
the Irish stand up to the immense weight of seeking
revenge from the quarter final defeat. In fact, the last
couple at the hands of the All Blacks in front
of a home crowd with our warm favorites. Does this
crush them? Or do they stand up to it, and
(11:50):
I don't know how they're going to respond.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Well, I mean, what a place to go for the
All Blacks and win a Test match a you know,
into that cauldron where as you say everybody, well, I'd
say most people inside Aviva are going to be wearing green,
cheering for Green, absolutely salivating for a Green win. What
a place to go and win a Test match? I mean,
what a stamp on this All Blacks team under Scott Robertson.
(12:14):
That would be if they were to emerge victorious tomorrow morning.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
If they don't, is it really a bigin?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Do you really go?
Speaker 4 (12:21):
What's failure? They beat England last week and yeah it
was close, but it was still a victory. France to
come next week. How much hangs on this for Scott
Robertson and his team? Do you think pine quite a bit?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
I reckon quite a bit.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
I reckon because if you were to lose this, as
I just said in my little comment piece, if you
to lose this, then you're staring down the barrel of
going to France, and you know they'll be up for
it as well. You could be staring down the barrel
of five losses in your first year as All Blacks
head coach. I'm not sure that's a great look. I'm
not saying raises under any pressure for his job, but
losing five tests in your first year is All Blacks coach?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Not sure?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Now, while we'll see who responds the best, and I
think from a personnel point of view, a lot of
us are really looking forward to seeing if what a
Satiti can carry on the magnificent form he's shown. I'm
sure there's plenty of irish eyes that won't be smiling
at him if he can unleash. But a lot on
him because he's been great so far. But you're only
as good as your next game, right.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Yeah, that's so right.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean he has been spectacular and I would back
him to be good again. How worried are you about
us throwing the ball into the lineout?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
I'm more worried about discipline. Look, it may or may
not work the line out. Yeah, stuff has got a
lot to work to do around that. But I look
right across and I'll go back to one of my
favorite quotes from Todd Black at her back in the
day about the winning and the losing of the game.
One word discipline and we've seen discipline collapse in the
hands of the All Blacks and some of the turnovers,
(13:49):
some of the era's mistakes they made. I don't think
the Irish will be as kind on them as the
English were.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
You you can't and well, I think we kept England
in the game last week, didn't we with with penalties
and kickable positions? They went up in threes and it
was enough for them to stay well and truly in
the hunt until late in that game.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So that can't be.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That can't be something that lets, you know, let's slip
tomorrow some more, some more discipline. Yellow cards as well?
Does I think we've had one on each of the
last six or seven Test matches. We could do without those,
could we?
Speaker 4 (14:16):
They have not taking money on it. I thought I'd
go into the website and find out what the odds
were in a red carter or a yellow cart. You're
not there?
Speaker 5 (14:24):
What is this?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
They've closed? The book doesn't seem inevitable. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I don't know. All right, Well, at nine o'clock tomorrow
morning and just after you can catch the commentary with
Alliot Smith and Gregor Paul on News Talk, said, be hey,
I wanted to ask you about swearing, not in general terms,
because I know you're one of the great swearers off
air that I've ever come across. You know, you know,
it's a great pleasure to listen to you go on
a foul mouthed rant on occasion. How do you feel
about Formula one drivers that they've asked the governing body
(14:53):
to treat them like adults for stapping Leclair recently punished
for using supposedly foul language.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
What's your what's your take.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
On this is ridiculous and the fact that the Grand
Prix Drivers Association have come out and see cease and desist,
we don't want it any more. This is the new
boss of the FIO of the last year or so.
His name is Mohammed Ben Sillyam. He is a rally
driver of actually some repute's pretty good at what he does.
But he's turned up and he's getting his nose in
where it's not wanted on social media, and not only
(15:24):
about the swearing, other things as well, the jewelry that
they're wear, even their underpants and what they wear underneath.
He's just sticking his beacon too much. He's stuck his
beacon around.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
The value of the Formula one.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Circus too, which is upset Liberty media who own it.
He's got some pretty unsavory anti women comments from you know,
a decade ago on social media, so I think he's
causing a bit of trouble. Look, he said they want
to differentiate between F one and rap music, and Lewis
Hamble just came out, well, most rappers are black, So
(16:01):
this is just thinly veiled racism. How could you say this?
And look, the fine was nothing. It was ten thousand
euro from a clique he's on thirty four million a year.
And then when they see Max Verst stepping off for
community service, I think he hung around with the stewards
for an afternoon and that's.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
All he did.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
But I don't know what it is trying to sanitize
what these guys do. It's a terrifically exciting, scary and
dangerous sport. And if they want to release I mean,
if you ever heard a huddle and basketball, I mean,
come on, they're people, right.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That is well summed up without the use of a
swear word at all from you, Darcy.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
When people meet me, Biney.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
They always say, on Earth you get through an hour
or two hours, three hours of radio without dropping the
bomb so well, because when I'm not on here, I
get rid of it. I expell it before I get
the micro on.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I think we've both got this ability to walk into
a place where a microphone is and just leave those
words out of our vocamp me.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
I need you to talk about football. I've had my
Formula one rand. What's going on with Chris Wood.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I just wanted to mention Chris Wood right at the
end of this week because this morning he was a
PFA Premier League Play of the Month for October that
is voted for by his fellow professionals. So to be
voted for as the best player in the Premier League
in the month of October by your fellow pros is
quite something.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
We know.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Chris Wood's on a tear goal scoring wise eight in
the Premier League so father season in ten matches, second
only to one Earling Harland.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
He's the only bloke who's got more than Chris Wood.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
He is He is well aware of his own game now,
knows exactly where to be, what to do when he's there.
And Nottingham Forest fans absolutely adore Chris Wood.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Right now and I just thought he was worth a
mentioned right at the end.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Absolutely, from the striking Viking to the dare I say it,
the kicking Kiwi? I mean, what else can we call him? Right? Piney,
I'm sorry I said that. I'm going to leave the
room right now and swear it myself.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Get out of the chamber and we're back in the
chape next week.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
On sports Fix.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Leading a vix, We've got just the ticket. It's Sportsfix,
Power Blay News Talks.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Ivy and that's us on the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Thankfully, man, he might say, for today.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Don't worry though, a fresh episode will drop into your
pot cast feed on Monday, if, of course you subscribe,
that will happen automatically.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
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And if it's sport on the radio, need where you
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we love getting your calls and text. Sports Talk between
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and then Piney's got the controllers between midday and three
Saturday and Sunday on weekend sport. You look after yourself, guys,
(18:35):
get a monks and have some fun That's what sport's
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Speaker 1 (18:41):
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