September 9, 2024 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine for 9th September 2024, the Tasman Mako have won the Ranfurly Shield for the first time in their history. Tasman Rugby CEO Steve Mitchell joins the podcast to discuss what that means for the region.
Piney offers his thoughts on the log of wood, and how important it is to rugby in New Zealand.
Plus, Elijah Fa'afiu joins the panel to discuss the All Blacks' loss to South Africa, and what we can expect from the Black Caps in their match vs Afghanistan.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:17):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hello and welcome to a new weeknd a fresh Monday
episode of the Sports Figs podcast for September nine. I'm
Jason Pine. Good to have you listening in today on
the podcast. The rand Furley Shield is resident at the
top of the South Island. Tasman's win over Hawk's Bay
at the weekend brought the log of wood to the region,
well certainly the Nelson part of it for the very
(00:43):
first time. We'll check in with CEO of Tasman, Steve
Mitchell on the podcast today Elijah a feat who drops
in to kick around the sporting issues of the day
in the chamber and some thoughts on provincial rugby and
in particular the relevance still of the ran Furley Shield.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In other news, let's start, as always with some of
the biggest sports stories happening around New zeal And the
world today. A canoeist, Peter Cowen has claimed New Zealand's
final medal at the Paris Paralympic Games.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Bronze in the two hundred meter v L three.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Discipline, and he's thanked his wife for looking after childcare
duties back home.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Have them understand his daddy's on an important copopper to
my boys back home. So say I love yous heaps
and yeah, I hope dad it was fast enough so
they can begue about it at dcare.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He was certainly fast enough to win the bronze medal
to Arthur rash.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Stadium Nnic Center. Has just won the US.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Orbit Yeah victory for the world number one, his second
Grand Slam tennis title, beating American Taylor Fritz and Hayden
Wilde back to back wins on the Super Triathlon series.
The two time Olympic medalist following up his win in
Chicago last month with a two second victory over Australian
Matt Houser in London.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Just felt like I was running in mud and I
thought they were going to cash me out and has
to push out to the end.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Medio Vix, We've got just the ticket. It's sports.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
On the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What a weekend it has been and I'm sure are
forty eight hours for the good folk of Tasman for
the first time in their history, Tasman have won the
ran Fully Shield betting Hawks Bay in an absolute thriller
in Napier on Saturday night, twenty five, twenty four, courtesy
of a penalty right at the very end from Tasman
(02:35):
first five Campbell padata, Let's find out how it's been
these last forty eight hours with the log of Ward
Now a residents of Nelson. CEO of the Tasman rugby
Union is Steve Mitchell, who joins us now, Steve, how
significant a moment is this for you and the folk
in Tasman.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Oh? Absolutely messive. I mean Taswell is quite a successful union.
The story of Tasan's quite a success story. But this
is one trophy that we've never won and one that
I think there's three previous occasions where we're challenged for
it we managed to pull off. So yeah, this was
definitely definitely a great milestone for Chatsman rugby.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Were you confident before kickoff?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Looking you know, you never like to get too confident.
You can have a little quiet confidence, but that always
had to get taken too big at Bytcher. So I
was in the team room as they were preparing to
go on the bus trip and then I traveled with
them in the bus, and to be honest, there was
just an inspirational video and then there was no talking.
The music was turned off on the bus that had
(03:38):
their own. But it was a very serious, i say,
focused bus trip, and the boys were well prepared and
ready to go to battle.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So you're leading twenty two teen with fifteen minutes to go,
and then all of a sudden, Hawks Bay go bang
bang with a couple of converted tries. Were you thinking
the chance might have slipped away?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Look? To be honest, I personally was worried. Yeah, And
when it was twenty two or when they were leading
us by two, I was definitely concerned. And I think
there was six or seven seconds to go. But yeah, oldah,
the turnover in the middle of the field and Campbell's
stepping up here, we definitely had everything crossed and buckily enough,
the penalty sailed through. We knew Hawkes Bay a very,
(04:23):
very tough team, you know, and they've held it for
some time for a reason, so we knew things were
going to be tough here. So but yeah, the result
was what we wanted, and so he breathed a sigh
of relief and yeah, and bring it home to the community.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Just before we move on to the to the to
the weak, he had just one final word on the
game and and Campbell pot Art's kick, I mean, what
was he forty seven meters? He's basically on halfway. Biggest kick,
I'm sure of his career. How were your emotions as
he was lining it up and then as you saw
it sail through?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Oh, look, where as he was lining it up, just
watching intently, but as it sailed through, Yeah, I definitely
let in my seat and stands in the air and
then made quite a bit of noise on a mention.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Brilliant, So you should So you showed it.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Yeah, And there was enough support around us that we
didn't feel that out of place. To be honest, I
think the whole crowd were appreciative of the game itself.
You know, it was a very tough of fitting fitting
Ranfurly shield challenge.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So tell us about the time since you came home.
Tell us about their reception you got back and back
and Nelson when you landed.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Oh so yeah, the airport was pretty much packed with
Marco fans and flagged to support, which was absolutely brilliant.
From there, we went back to the Union headquarters and
dropped off all the players gear, had a little bit
of a breather, and then we picked up on a
bus taken up to the top of the church steps
at Trafalgar Street, where we had a welcome and some
(05:51):
dignitary speak before the captain spoke and Campbell was also interviewed,
and then we walked the Shield right down Trafago Street
to our home base. And last night we heard a
Spatson's function in Trafalgar Park Pavilion, the home of the Marco.
Today we've just finished a public ceremony over in Marlboro
(06:12):
out in front of the Council offices. Here we're another
big crowd and another loyal support, so that's massive for
both communities. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I can imagine walking from the top of Trafalgar Street
down to Trafalgar Park.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, I know they.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I know the stretcher rode very well, very very well. Indeed,
Steve would have been marvelous to take it down there.
So what about the week ahead, because clearly the players
now have to refocus because you've got you've got some
challenge coming on Sunday when Wellington come to try and
prize it away from you.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, correct, you know, so pretty much. They've
had the first couple of days off and they've been
on board tomorrow morning. Yeah. You know, they've been fairly
sensible about their celebrations, so I'm hoping there's not too
much dust or or lens things to shake off. But yeah,
they yeah, very very very aware of what the Shield
(07:00):
meets to, not on themselves, opportmmunity. So so we'll be
well prepared and we'll be ready for another battle and has.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah, we'll definitely have the crowd support and the local advantage.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
What are the movements of the ran Philly Shield over
over the rest of this week before you you put
it on the line against Wellington and Blenham on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Oh, look, it's it's got a full schedule then I
think part of it's even going over to Collingwood to
Queen's hometown. Yeah, so yeah, look, it's got a full
ski schedule. Basically the Queen in town we named the
guardian of the Shield from the team, which the privilege
was given to Quintin McDonald who is now the most
(07:44):
capp Marco and also I believe the highest triscore and
one of our older members, you know, just select somebody
according to the specifications from News on Rugby who had
the mana. The mana so look after the shield and
and the senior player management Show's continent. So he's doing
that very well.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, well congratulations to him. Siren's coming off in the
backgrounds team, so we'll let you go. It looks like
everybody wants to get a look at the ran Furley Shield,
even the local constabulary. That is Steve Mitchell, he is
the CEO of Tasman, joining us on the Sports Fix
podcast with the Ranfurley Shield for the meantime anyway, resident
in Tasman.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news, news talks, evy.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The scenes when Tasman won the ran Furley Shield on
Saturday night, with further demonstration of where the real passion
in rugby in this country actually lies. It is in
the provinces. I honestly believe that the entire professional jes
On rugby ecosystem, the All Blacks and Super Rugby could
collapse and the Ranfurley Shield would still remain both utterly
(08:52):
meaningful and completely indestructible, unless, of course, you dropped it
on the concrete. Anyway, it is by some distance the
most coveted trophy in New Zealand sport. You could show
a picture of the Ranfurley Shield to any keyw over
the age of twelve and our than what it was
and ninety five percent of them would know. Is there
(09:13):
any other sporting trophy that could match that? Even the
Rugby World Cup wouldn't have as much recognition. To be fair,
the shield is a distinctive piece of silverware. But the
point stands now, this one was extra special because Tasman
had never ever won it before, and the log is
going to be shared far and wide around the region
in the next few days before the team set about
(09:34):
the very stiff task of defending it against another of
the form teams in the competition, and that's Wellington. What
I would really like to see is the Ranfurly Shields
somehow drop into the Heartland Championship. Now for that to happen,
we'd need one of the teams from the Heartland to
somehow win one of those early season challenges, the ceremonial
(09:56):
ones when whoever's got it, you know, takes it to
somewhere like King Country or East coast and they have
a crack at it, but it's always sixty seventy eighty nerl.
We just need one of those teams to actually win that.
I know that's almost impossible, but I do let myself
dream about the Log of Wood being residents in Ashburton
(10:16):
or Greymouth or ru A Tortio or Masterton or Uamaru
or Tikawiti or any of those provincial heartland championship centers.
Imagine it, the fans of our smallest provinces getting up
close with the famous Log of Wood when so little
these days, feels truly special, and truly tribal, and truly meaningful.
(10:40):
The Ranfurly Shield is all of those things. Regardless of
the shape of the professional game and the twists and
turns it will continue to inevitably take. The Ranfurley Shield
stands alone in its significance. It'll still be here one
hundred years from now.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
On the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
My favorite part of any Sports Fix podcast really is
the chance to chat with somebody else rather than just
kick around things in my own head. Into the people's chamber,
we go at larger as joined me. How was your
weekend e Larja.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah, not too bad, Pony, How about yourself?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It was good, Actually it was good.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I didn't want to mention either the Bulldogs or the
New York Giants, but I've said the words. Now, how
are you feeling? Bulldogs? They finished sixth. They play Manly in
a knockout game in Week one of the NRL Finals.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
You'd be favorite for that at home, wouldn't you.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Well, I would say we're favorites, but we did lose
to Manly a couple of weeks ago. But I know
mainly basically the whole team revolves around Tom Travoyevitch, so
whether he plays or not is going to be the
key thing. But yeah, I'm looking forward to that elimination
final nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And new information for me that you're a New York
Giants fan, and just by sheer coincidence, they played against
my son's favorite team, the Minnesota Vikings, this morning and
the Vikings got up.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
But I had no idea you were a Giants fan.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Well, there's probably a reason I haven't screamed to the screens,
to the top of the scream at the top of
my lungs or anything. Piney. Yeah, it's been a rough
decade for the Giants. Let's say that how did you
land on the Giants? Well, they had Elo Manning, so
I guess we share the same first name, so that
kind of helped.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Love it out there.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Love It always always interested to find out how people
you know, latched onto the teams that they do. It's
a good enough reason, as good as any. The All Blacks.
How are we feeling about the All Blacks, Elijah? They've
had two matches in South Africa. Two I guess you'd
say two close losses on the scoreboard, but I think
both tests were won by the deserving winner and it
(12:41):
was the spring Box. How are you feeling after these
two test matches.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
I'm feeling quite optimistic, to be honest, Piney. Yes we
did lose to the spring Box, but we know that
the spring Box are the benchmark or the standard in
world rugby these days, and it was really just about
just to see where the All Blacks were in comparison
to the spring Box. Had they lost by more than
ten or been hammered by the spring Box in South Africa,
(13:06):
then maybe I'd be a bit white worried. But we
only lost by four points in Johannesburg in six points
in Cape Town. So I think Scott Robinson and his
crew and the players they know what needs to be
done to overturn that, particularly in the final quarter of
the games is probably where the All Blacks need to
sort of fix things. But honestly, I'm quite optimistic moving
(13:28):
heading into the Letterslow Cup clash against Australia.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Do you think that's where we are right now then
with the All Blacks, that we're actually reasonably happy just
to have narrow losses to South Africa, because you know,
that would be quite the departure from the usual state
of affairs When the All Blacks lose consecutive test matches
and in fact lose three out of four, that would
be you know, would be calling for the coach's head.
But do you think we're just in that period of
(13:52):
our evolution right now as a rugby team with a
new coaching staff and a bunch of players having departed,
where actually we're okay with a couple of narrow losses
to the world number one.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I think we should be just because it's the first
year of another World Cup cycle and it's the Raisers
trying to find the right formula with this new squad. Unfortunately,
we are fans of the All Blacks, and the All
Blacks have always had these high expectations that comes with
the Black jerseys, so that's always going to be hard.
But I'm hoping that it is an evolution, that we're
(14:25):
okay with these results, particularly against South Africa, and that
hopefully this time next year that we're in a position
where the All Blacks are competing and able to get
revenge against Soca South Africa or beat some of those
Northern Hemisphere teams.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I think you're probably right because if we get to
twenty twenty seven and Scott Barrett or whoever is captain
is thrusting the Rugby World cap into the sky, we
won't even remember what happened in twenty twenty four, will we.
It will just be just collateral damage.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Mind it it will be. And again, like there's a
lot to be optimistic about. As I said, a lot
of the youth that came through these particularly these past
couple of games. Wallace's tit was a standout.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Cody Taylor was probably one of the best All Blacks
across those two games, so we can feel confident about
his role, but obviously there's still other areas that we
need to look at. Maybe first five with Daman McKenzie,
is he still the answer what the back three looks like?
But yeah, there's still some optimism there on my end.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Another player too, Paul Vay.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I thought he had a very good Test match in
Cape Town and was good too in Johannesburg and has
really stepped up in the absence of Patrick Tueypouloto and
the departures of white Lock and Retalic, because I think
Locke was a real question mark, wasn't it. And Toopaul Vy,
I think has answered a lot of questions.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
He's played.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In fact, he started the last five Test matches Fiji,
both against Argentina, both against South Africa and has looked
really good. So I was I was heartened by that
as well. Maybe I just need to step back and
look at it as a you know, through your eyes, Elijah,
through you know, through a wider lens, a better filter,
because I fully expected I was away on the weekend,
(16:04):
but I fully expected to come back to work today
and have everybody you know, wailing and gnashing their tea
that these two losses. But what I've actually found is
similar to what you've outlined. There are very considered look
at this, which I don't think is.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
A bad thing.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Yeah, it's just looking at the wider pitcher. At the
end of the day, we're moving towards the twenty seven
Rugby World Cup and I think that's what we should
be building towards. And yeah, this is the first of
a four year cycles. So yeah, that's probably how I
view things.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
All right, Well, let's see how we feel if they
bleed us, Like you wouldn't want to lose the bettert
like cup.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Though, no, especially not after the Wallabies were pumped by
forty Argentina.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Even I don't know that they're even worse than us,
not that we're bad, but you're right.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I think they are patently fourth best in the Rugby
Championship right now, aren't they the Wallabies?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
That was I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And yes, Argentina have improved, but they gave the Wallabies
a thrashing, didn't they.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah, and you have to remember Australia were up by
twenty points to three. So the fact that Argentina came
all the way back to end up winning by forty
is amazing. And I guess there's questions over there around
Joe Schmidt's and what's going on over there. Well, yeah,
we'll see. It should be a good match up when
the two meet up for the bitslow.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I think he'll get Joe Schmidt. I think he'll get
a bit of leeway, quite a bit of leeway as well.
Just the horrible taste that Eddie Jones left in the
mouths of Wallaby's fans. I think there's still a bit
of that to spit out. So I think Joe Schmidt
will get quite a bit of rope wony.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Yeah, i'd hope. So I think you would. You want
to get as much of that's a bit of taste
of Eddie Jones out of the Australian's mouths. So yeah,
hopefully things go well with Joe Schmitt.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
We could be battling Australia for the Wooden Spoon and
the Rugby Championship as well as the.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The Blitter Slowe Cup.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Hey, just before we exit the chamber, black Caps Afghanistan,
this afternoon test cricket in September seems a bit funny,
but I mean, I'm a huge fan of the Red
bull stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Are we locked in? You locked into this?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
I mean, I am. It's the purest four of the
form of the game. So I always enjoy when there's
a bit of Test cricket happening. Might not be tuned
in for the Afghanistan Test, but definitely the Sri Lanka
India series where you know there's World Test Championship points
on the line, so that's going to be quite crucial.
We're sitting third at the moment in the standing so
(18:28):
and winning over in the Subcontinent, where I know the
black Caps have struggled quite a bit in the past.
Getting some wins over there would be quite huge for us.
So I am looking forward to that six match block
that we've got coming up.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So am I? So am I?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Sixteen wins in ninety nine to zero Test matches on
the subcontinent A larjah. That's our record over there. We
don't win.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We don't win a lot over there. To be fair,
no we don't.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
We don't. And I think one of the big things
I'm looking for I'm interested in is seeing what the
spin boll options are like because over the subcontinent, spinner's
key over there. We know we've got a JS Patoo
as a specialist, but we've got other options like Mitch
Satner and Glen Phillips, Rutiman ave injo as we so
I'm interested to see what Gary Stead goes with in
(19:12):
terms of his spin options.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Indeed and intriguing.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Time ahead on the Subcontinent for the black Caps and
ahead for fans of the All Blacks as well. Elijah,
always a pleasure chatting in the chamber with you. Let's
lock it in for next Monday, shall we.
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Hello and welcome to a new weeknd a fresh Monday
episode of the Sports Figs podcast for September nine. I'm
Jason Pine. Good to have you listening in today on
the podcast. The rand Furley Shield is resident at the
top of the South Island. Tasman's win over Hawk's Bay
at the weekend brought the log of wood to the region,
well certainly the Nelson part of it for the very
(00:43):
first time. We'll check in with CEO of Tasman, Steve
Mitchell on the podcast today Elijah a feat who drops
in to kick around the sporting issues of the day
in the chamber and some thoughts on provincial rugby and
in particular the relevance still of the ran Furley Shield.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Let's get into it.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
In other news, let's start, as always with some of
the biggest sports stories happening around New zeal And the
world today. A canoeist, Peter Cowen has claimed New Zealand's
final medal at the Paris Paralympic Games.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Bronze in the two hundred meter v L three.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Discipline, and he's thanked his wife for looking after childcare
duties back home.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Have them understand his daddy's on an important copopper to
my boys back home. So say I love yous heaps
and yeah, I hope dad it was fast enough so
they can begue about it at dcare.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
He was certainly fast enough to win the bronze medal
to Arthur rash.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Stadium Nnic Center. Has just won the US.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Orbit Yeah victory for the world number one, his second
Grand Slam tennis title, beating American Taylor Fritz and Hayden
Wilde back to back wins on the Super Triathlon series.
The two time Olympic medalist following up his win in
Chicago last month with a two second victory over Australian
Matt Houser in London.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
Just felt like I was running in mud and I
thought they were going to cash me out and has
to push out to the end.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Medio Vix, We've got just the ticket. It's sports.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
On the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
What a weekend it has been and I'm sure are
forty eight hours for the good folk of Tasman for
the first time in their history, Tasman have won the
ran Fully Shield betting Hawks Bay in an absolute thriller
in Napier on Saturday night, twenty five, twenty four, courtesy
of a penalty right at the very end from Tasman
(02:35):
first five Campbell padata, Let's find out how it's been
these last forty eight hours with the log of Ward
Now a residents of Nelson. CEO of the Tasman rugby
Union is Steve Mitchell, who joins us now, Steve, how
significant a moment is this for you and the folk
in Tasman.
Speaker 6 (02:53):
Oh? Absolutely messive. I mean Taswell is quite a successful union.
The story of Tasan's quite a success story. But this
is one trophy that we've never won and one that
I think there's three previous occasions where we're challenged for
it we managed to pull off. So yeah, this was
definitely definitely a great milestone for Chatsman rugby.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Were you confident before kickoff?
Speaker 6 (03:17):
Looking you know, you never like to get too confident.
You can have a little quiet confidence, but that always
had to get taken too big at Bytcher. So I
was in the team room as they were preparing to
go on the bus trip and then I traveled with
them in the bus, and to be honest, there was
just an inspirational video and then there was no talking.
The music was turned off on the bus that had
(03:38):
their own. But it was a very serious, i say,
focused bus trip, and the boys were well prepared and
ready to go to battle.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So you're leading twenty two teen with fifteen minutes to go,
and then all of a sudden, Hawks Bay go bang
bang with a couple of converted tries. Were you thinking
the chance might have slipped away?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Look? To be honest, I personally was worried. Yeah, And
when it was twenty two or when they were leading
us by two, I was definitely concerned. And I think
there was six or seven seconds to go. But yeah, oldah,
the turnover in the middle of the field and Campbell's
stepping up here, we definitely had everything crossed and buckily enough,
the penalty sailed through. We knew Hawkes Bay a very,
(04:23):
very tough team, you know, and they've held it for
some time for a reason, so we knew things were
going to be tough here. So but yeah, the result
was what we wanted, and so he breathed a sigh
of relief and yeah, and bring it home to the community.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Just before we move on to the to the to
the weak, he had just one final word on the
game and and Campbell pot Art's kick, I mean, what
was he forty seven meters? He's basically on halfway. Biggest kick,
I'm sure of his career. How were your emotions as
he was lining it up and then as you saw
it sail through?
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Oh, look, where as he was lining it up, just
watching intently, but as it sailed through, Yeah, I definitely
let in my seat and stands in the air and
then made quite a bit of noise on a mention.
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Brilliant, So you should So you showed it.
Speaker 6 (05:09):
Yeah, And there was enough support around us that we
didn't feel that out of place. To be honest, I
think the whole crowd were appreciative of the game itself.
You know, it was a very tough of fitting fitting
Ranfurly shield challenge.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
So tell us about the time since you came home.
Tell us about their reception you got back and back
and Nelson when you landed.
Speaker 6 (05:28):
Oh so yeah, the airport was pretty much packed with
Marco fans and flagged to support, which was absolutely brilliant.
From there, we went back to the Union headquarters and
dropped off all the players gear, had a little bit
of a breather, and then we picked up on a
bus taken up to the top of the church steps
at Trafalgar Street, where we had a welcome and some
(05:51):
dignitary speak before the captain spoke and Campbell was also interviewed,
and then we walked the Shield right down Trafago Street
to our home base. And last night we heard a
Spatson's function in Trafalgar Park Pavilion, the home of the Marco.
Today we've just finished a public ceremony over in Marlboro
(06:12):
out in front of the Council offices. Here we're another
big crowd and another loyal support, so that's massive for
both communities. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I can imagine walking from the top of Trafalgar Street
down to Trafalgar Park.
Speaker 4 (06:24):
Yeah, I know they.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
I know the stretcher rode very well, very very well. Indeed,
Steve would have been marvelous to take it down there.
So what about the week ahead, because clearly the players
now have to refocus because you've got you've got some
challenge coming on Sunday when Wellington come to try and
prize it away from you.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Oh yeah, yeah, correct, you know, so pretty much. They've
had the first couple of days off and they've been
on board tomorrow morning. Yeah. You know, they've been fairly
sensible about their celebrations, so I'm hoping there's not too
much dust or or lens things to shake off. But yeah,
they yeah, very very very aware of what the Shield
(07:00):
meets to, not on themselves, opportmmunity. So so we'll be
well prepared and we'll be ready for another battle and has.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
So.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
Yeah, we'll definitely have the crowd support and the local advantage.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
What is that?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
What are the movements of the ran Philly Shield over
over the rest of this week before you you put
it on the line against Wellington and Blenham on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Oh, look, it's it's got a full schedule then I
think part of it's even going over to Collingwood to
Queen's hometown. Yeah, so yeah, look, it's got a full
ski schedule. Basically the Queen in town we named the
guardian of the Shield from the team, which the privilege
was given to Quintin McDonald who is now the most
(07:44):
capp Marco and also I believe the highest triscore and
one of our older members, you know, just select somebody
according to the specifications from News on Rugby who had
the mana. The mana so look after the shield and
and the senior player management Show's continent. So he's doing
that very well.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah, well congratulations to him. Siren's coming off in the
backgrounds team, so we'll let you go. It looks like
everybody wants to get a look at the ran Furley Shield,
even the local constabulary. That is Steve Mitchell, he is
the CEO of Tasman, joining us on the Sports Fix
podcast with the Ranfurley Shield for the meantime anyway, resident
in Tasman.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news, news talks, evy.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
The scenes when Tasman won the ran Furley Shield on
Saturday night, with further demonstration of where the real passion
in rugby in this country actually lies. It is in
the provinces. I honestly believe that the entire professional jes
On rugby ecosystem, the All Blacks and Super Rugby could
collapse and the Ranfurley Shield would still remain both utterly
(08:52):
meaningful and completely indestructible, unless, of course, you dropped it
on the concrete. Anyway, it is by some distance the
most coveted trophy in New Zealand sport. You could show
a picture of the Ranfurley Shield to any keyw over
the age of twelve and our than what it was
and ninety five percent of them would know. Is there
(09:13):
any other sporting trophy that could match that? Even the
Rugby World Cup wouldn't have as much recognition. To be fair,
the shield is a distinctive piece of silverware. But the
point stands now, this one was extra special because Tasman
had never ever won it before, and the log is
going to be shared far and wide around the region
in the next few days before the team set about
(09:34):
the very stiff task of defending it against another of
the form teams in the competition, and that's Wellington. What
I would really like to see is the Ranfurly Shields
somehow drop into the Heartland Championship. Now for that to happen,
we'd need one of the teams from the Heartland to
somehow win one of those early season challenges, the ceremonial
(09:56):
ones when whoever's got it, you know, takes it to
somewhere like King Country or East coast and they have
a crack at it, but it's always sixty seventy eighty nerl.
We just need one of those teams to actually win that.
I know that's almost impossible, but I do let myself
dream about the Log of Wood being residents in Ashburton
(10:16):
or Greymouth or ru A Tortio or Masterton or Uamaru
or Tikawiti or any of those provincial heartland championship centers.
Imagine it, the fans of our smallest provinces getting up
close with the famous Log of Wood when so little
these days, feels truly special, and truly tribal, and truly meaningful.
(10:40):
The Ranfurly Shield is all of those things. Regardless of
the shape of the professional game and the twists and
turns it will continue to inevitably take. The Ranfurley Shield
stands alone in its significance. It'll still be here one
hundred years from now.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
On the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
My favorite part of any Sports Fix podcast really is
the chance to chat with somebody else rather than just
kick around things in my own head. Into the people's chamber,
we go at larger as joined me. How was your
weekend e Larja.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah, not too bad, Pony, How about yourself?
Speaker 4 (11:18):
It was good, Actually it was good.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I didn't want to mention either the Bulldogs or the
New York Giants, but I've said the words. Now, how
are you feeling? Bulldogs? They finished sixth. They play Manly in
a knockout game in Week one of the NRL Finals.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
You'd be favorite for that at home, wouldn't you.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
Well, I would say we're favorites, but we did lose
to Manly a couple of weeks ago. But I know
mainly basically the whole team revolves around Tom Travoyevitch, so
whether he plays or not is going to be the
key thing. But yeah, I'm looking forward to that elimination
final nonetheless.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And new information for me that you're a New York
Giants fan, and just by sheer coincidence, they played against
my son's favorite team, the Minnesota Vikings, this morning and
the Vikings got up.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
But I had no idea you were a Giants fan.
Speaker 7 (12:02):
Well, there's probably a reason I haven't screamed to the screens,
to the top of the scream at the top of
my lungs or anything. Piney. Yeah, it's been a rough
decade for the Giants. Let's say that how did you
land on the Giants? Well, they had Elo Manning, so
I guess we share the same first name, so that
kind of helped.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Love it out there.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Love It always always interested to find out how people
you know, latched onto the teams that they do. It's
a good enough reason, as good as any. The All Blacks.
How are we feeling about the All Blacks, Elijah? They've
had two matches in South Africa. Two I guess you'd
say two close losses on the scoreboard, but I think
both tests were won by the deserving winner and it
(12:41):
was the spring Box. How are you feeling after these
two test matches.
Speaker 7 (12:45):
I'm feeling quite optimistic, to be honest, Piney. Yes we
did lose to the spring Box, but we know that
the spring Box are the benchmark or the standard in
world rugby these days, and it was really just about
just to see where the All Blacks were in comparison
to the spring Box. Had they lost by more than
ten or been hammered by the spring Box in South Africa,
(13:06):
then maybe I'd be a bit white worried. But we
only lost by four points in Johannesburg in six points
in Cape Town. So I think Scott Robinson and his
crew and the players they know what needs to be
done to overturn that, particularly in the final quarter of
the games is probably where the All Blacks need to
sort of fix things. But honestly, I'm quite optimistic moving
(13:28):
heading into the Letterslow Cup clash against Australia.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Do you think that's where we are right now then
with the All Blacks, that we're actually reasonably happy just
to have narrow losses to South Africa, because you know,
that would be quite the departure from the usual state
of affairs When the All Blacks lose consecutive test matches
and in fact lose three out of four, that would
be you know, would be calling for the coach's head.
But do you think we're just in that period of
(13:52):
our evolution right now as a rugby team with a
new coaching staff and a bunch of players having departed,
where actually we're okay with a couple of narrow losses
to the world number one.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
I think we should be just because it's the first
year of another World Cup cycle and it's the Raisers
trying to find the right formula with this new squad. Unfortunately,
we are fans of the All Blacks, and the All
Blacks have always had these high expectations that comes with
the Black jerseys, so that's always going to be hard.
But I'm hoping that it is an evolution, that we're
(14:25):
okay with these results, particularly against South Africa, and that
hopefully this time next year that we're in a position
where the All Blacks are competing and able to get
revenge against Soca South Africa or beat some of those
Northern Hemisphere teams.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I think you're probably right because if we get to
twenty twenty seven and Scott Barrett or whoever is captain
is thrusting the Rugby World cap into the sky, we
won't even remember what happened in twenty twenty four, will we.
It will just be just collateral damage.
Speaker 7 (14:54):
Mind it it will be. And again, like there's a
lot to be optimistic about. As I said, a lot
of the youth that came through these particularly these past
couple of games. Wallace's tit was a standout.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (15:07):
Cody Taylor was probably one of the best All Blacks
across those two games, so we can feel confident about
his role, but obviously there's still other areas that we
need to look at. Maybe first five with Daman McKenzie,
is he still the answer what the back three looks like?
But yeah, there's still some optimism there on my end.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Another player too, Paul Vay.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
I thought he had a very good Test match in
Cape Town and was good too in Johannesburg and has
really stepped up in the absence of Patrick Tueypouloto and
the departures of white Lock and Retalic, because I think
Locke was a real question mark, wasn't it. And Toopaul Vy,
I think has answered a lot of questions.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
He's played.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
In fact, he started the last five Test matches Fiji,
both against Argentina, both against South Africa and has looked
really good. So I was I was heartened by that
as well. Maybe I just need to step back and
look at it as a you know, through your eyes, Elijah,
through you know, through a wider lens, a better filter,
because I fully expected I was away on the weekend,
(16:04):
but I fully expected to come back to work today
and have everybody you know, wailing and gnashing their tea
that these two losses. But what I've actually found is
similar to what you've outlined. There are very considered look
at this, which I don't think is.
Speaker 4 (16:15):
A bad thing.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Yeah, it's just looking at the wider pitcher. At the
end of the day, we're moving towards the twenty seven
Rugby World Cup and I think that's what we should
be building towards. And yeah, this is the first of
a four year cycles. So yeah, that's probably how I
view things.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
All right, Well, let's see how we feel if they
bleed us, Like you wouldn't want to lose the bettert
like cup.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
Though, no, especially not after the Wallabies were pumped by
forty Argentina.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
Even I don't know that they're even worse than us,
not that we're bad, but you're right.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
I think they are patently fourth best in the Rugby
Championship right now, aren't they the Wallabies?
Speaker 4 (16:50):
That was I mean?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
And yes, Argentina have improved, but they gave the Wallabies
a thrashing, didn't they.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah, and you have to remember Australia were up by
twenty points to three. So the fact that Argentina came
all the way back to end up winning by forty
is amazing. And I guess there's questions over there around
Joe Schmidt's and what's going on over there. Well, yeah,
we'll see. It should be a good match up when
the two meet up for the bitslow.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
I think he'll get Joe Schmidt. I think he'll get
a bit of leeway, quite a bit of leeway as well.
Just the horrible taste that Eddie Jones left in the
mouths of Wallaby's fans. I think there's still a bit
of that to spit out. So I think Joe Schmidt
will get quite a bit of rope wony.
Speaker 7 (17:34):
Yeah, i'd hope. So I think you would. You want
to get as much of that's a bit of taste
of Eddie Jones out of the Australian's mouths. So yeah,
hopefully things go well with Joe Schmitt.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
We could be battling Australia for the Wooden Spoon and
the Rugby Championship as well as the.
Speaker 4 (17:53):
The Blitter Slowe Cup.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Hey, just before we exit the chamber, black Caps Afghanistan,
this afternoon test cricket in September seems a bit funny,
but I mean, I'm a huge fan of the Red
bull stuff.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Are we locked in? You locked into this?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
I mean, I am. It's the purest four of the
form of the game. So I always enjoy when there's
a bit of Test cricket happening. Might not be tuned
in for the Afghanistan Test, but definitely the Sri Lanka
India series where you know there's World Test Championship points
on the line, so that's going to be quite crucial.
We're sitting third at the moment in the standing so
(18:28):
and winning over in the Subcontinent, where I know the
black Caps have struggled quite a bit in the past.
Getting some wins over there would be quite huge for us.
So I am looking forward to that six match block
that we've got coming up.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
So am I? So am I?
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Sixteen wins in ninety nine to zero Test matches on
the subcontinent A larjah. That's our record over there. We
don't win.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
We don't win a lot over there. To be fair,
no we don't.
Speaker 7 (18:51):
We don't. And I think one of the big things
I'm looking for I'm interested in is seeing what the
spin boll options are like because over the subcontinent, spinner's
key over there. We know we've got a JS Patoo
as a specialist, but we've got other options like Mitch
Satner and Glen Phillips, Rutiman ave injo as we so
I'm interested to see what Gary Stead goes with in
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terms of his spin options.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Indeed and intriguing.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Time ahead on the Subcontinent for the black Caps and
ahead for fans of the All Blacks as well. Elijah,
always a pleasure chatting in the chamber with you. Let's
lock it in for next Monday, shall we.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
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