June 13, 2025 • 20 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and D'Arcy Waldegrave for 13th June 2025, Kiwi endurance racing driver Brendon Hartley joins the podcast today as he prepares for 24 hours at Le Mans.
Piney reflects on Michael Campbells US Open win 20 years on.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks EDB. Follow
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello there and welcome into the sports Fix podcast. For
the back end of this working week for many anyway,
Sportsfix brought to you an association with GJ. Gardner Holmes,
New Zealand's most trusted home builder for June thirteen, Black Friday.
I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And black Friday. It is I'm that Darcy Watergrove. Actually,
as it happens, purely by I'm wearing all black today
on formal Friday, black tied, black shirt, black suit, black shoes,
not a black attitude, though I am nailing cats under
ladders on Tensing Fate. It's good.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, I feel underdressed, but fortunately this is mainly an
audio medium, so I think we should be okay now.
But weekend coming up for many of our sports people,
including one Brendan Hartley.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Brendan Hartley, phenomenal individual, roamed Formula one for a while,
but he's been running the World Enterance Championship for many
many years now, multiple world champion, multiple winner at in
a month and he'll join us slater on in the piece,
will actually almost immediately to talk exactly that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Look forward to that. I've got a bit of a
trip down memory lane for you. And in the chamber
we try and pick our Super Rugby finalists. More as well.
In terms of the latest and sports news, let's get
into it in other news, let's get going with some
of the big sports stories around today. Ryan Fox will
begin the second round of the US Golf Open late tonight,
(01:45):
six back from the lead. The key we carded it
up and down two over past seventy two. He's in
a chef for thirty third. American JJ Sporn has the
outright lead by one. He's four under the card.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
This is only my second one. I just tried to
kind of tag with the chorus. Gave me head of
largged shots and trader capitalize on any very opportunities, which
you know aren't very many out here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Pat Cummins has to come the eighth Australian to take
three hundred Test cricket wickets after helping demolish South Africa
for one hundred and thirty eight in the World Championship
Final at Lord's.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
There's a deep caw Corn of O Webster, he will
not touch this ballot.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Gods, Rocket Cash, Bill Webster on the boundary come and
finished with six for twenty eight and Crusader's assistant coach
Brad More, hopes they can send off their temporary home
on a high.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
A semi final loss of the Blues tonight would spell
the end of a thirteen year stint at their current stadium,
and Addington.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Go back and find the real value in the central
aspect of that is massive, it's emotional, it means a
lot to why it's here. It's great to reflect on.
But we're not done yet.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Leading of X, We've got just the ticket. It's Sports
VEX powered by News Talks IVY Good evening, Brandon.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Hartley, even morning for me, but evening to you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We'll get there eventually, somewhere in the middle. Welcome to
News talked. Great that you guys managed to pick up
the phone every yarn various stages throughout the year. This
is the weekend though World Endurance Championship. This is all
roads lead to Lemon, this is the race.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
It is. Yeah. I like that you said I always
pick up the phone. I think my wife would say
something different than you. Probably would off here as well.
I don't think we've spoken in a while, but yes, mate,
I'm in Lamaw. I'm actually it's Monday morning. I'm sitting
in the motor home. Were just sorry Tuesday mornings. We're
the test day on Sunday. That went very well. We
(03:48):
finished up P one, which which meant we could sleep
better than last coup of nights. It went really well.
All three of us drivers, myself, Sebastian Area, we're all
We're all in the numbers, were filled up to speed
straight away, all smiling after driving background, you know, around
Lamon again after twelve months off, and yeah, we think
we have a real chance.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's saying supercars. It rolls off the truck, good, You're
going to have a good week in So that's what
you're kind of nudging it. It's turned up and pretty
good set up.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Look, the car hasn't changed from last year, so we've
had no updated at all. A few of the other
teams have small, small updates, so we know this car.
There's been you know a bit of development on how
we set the car up, how we use some of
the tools. You know, after three or four years in
the same car, you refine things. So there's been some
small improvements, but you've got to assume the others have
(04:35):
been improving too, and arguably more than us, considering that
you know a lot of the teams. I'm not going
to call them unexperienced, but they have less experience with
their car than us. But yeah, we feel good. I
wouldn't say we're the favorites. I do believe Ferrari have
the best package and performance, but we are very very
(04:56):
motivated to try and stand on that top step. They
beat us the last two years, which still hurts. You know,
we were so close on our car to win that
bloody race the last two years. So yeah, the motivation
is very high. Is it always as a Lamora and yeah,
we're going to go for it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
From memory last time out it was a Ferrari that
finished it for you, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Ah, Yeah that is true. But as I said, yeah,
the last the last two years that they do hurt.
You know that there's so much work and emphasis goes
into this race from everyone. I mean, we respect our
competitors too, and yeah, but for to slip away towards
the end, which which happened the last two years, was
tough to take it was a tricky two weeks mentally
(05:38):
after the last one last year, last year's last year's race.
But yep, this this year is going to be well,
it's going to be incredibly tough again, arguably tough for
the last year that I think the competition is only getting.
I mean at the front has always been tough, but
it's the depth. You know, there's twenty three, twenty three
cars just in the hypercolor class. Still sixty two to
three cars on track at a time, but yeah, that
(05:59):
that depth and competition is massive. You know if every
single every single lineup, you know that every driver's either
been an F one, could have been an F one,
or they've made their career through endurance. I mean, there's
no weak link. And that goes for the teams and
all the other manufacturers as well, and that's going to
get even tougher the next years as well with Genesis
Ford McLaren. I mean, yeah, I think it's something that
(06:23):
I've never seen before, which is going to make it
even more special if we do get to stand on
that podium.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Sorry to bring that up, but you said it was
tough as a driver and a team. It's pretty tough
as a viewer too after watching for all that time
the depth, Like we spoke a few years ago and
there wasn't a lot of hypercr reaction. You were saying, yeah,
but in the next few years a number of manufacturers
are turning up. And you look at it now and
(06:49):
you've got Ferrari, Toyota, BMW, Cadillac, Porsche, Pergo, Aston, Martin Moore,
people are climbing on board. What's the excitement around hyper
cars around the Endurance Championship? Do you think?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Did you have to read those off a list? Also,
just curious how big effect a good right because I
was just thinking if I had to listen them all,
I'm going to miss one. You've done the job.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Thanks for calling me out. I've got to be prepared
Britain and I can't just turn.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I was just seeing how how much of a fan
you with. I know you do actually watch the races.
I do believe you, because what was the what was
the actual question?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Why the acceleration scus the pun toward manufacturers in world endurances? Now?
Why why's so big? It's getting bigger? What's the what's
the drive?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
It's a World championship, cold on and I think the
other big draw is Lamon as a race, that the
history of the prestige. What that means for the manufacturers
as a brand. Most of the manufacturers have a history
in motorsport and specifically Lamare And yeah, I guess all
these manufacturers want to develop and show what they can
do in a competitive environment. I mean, effectively, we're we're
(08:00):
car salesmen. I guess you could you could say that,
you know, we're we're selling cars, but you know, in
a way I know exactly well, I can speak for
Twitter know. They want to develop new technologies in the
competitive environment, you know, to continue making ever better vehicles,
and they want to translate that into the road car.
And that's always been like that. But yeah, I guess
(08:21):
to answer your other part of the question, they've changed
your regulations a few years ago. It's become more affordable,
easier for manufacturers to come in and produce a card
that they can compete with. And it's worked, and you know,
we've seen a flurry of new manufacturers and the competition
that was highed. There's stacked field with drivers and teams
(08:42):
and private teams as well. You know, you've got private
teams who are buying a Porsche or a Cadillac who
are an incredibly high level and can take over those
those manufacturers cars. And yeah, it's awesome mate. It's definitely
a bit of a gold mirror for for insurance racing
and lucky to be with one of the one of
the most experienced teams. And now we've got to put
that to good ess.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
From a driver's point of view, Brandon, how do things
change for you year and year out? I mean, you've
won it, you've been there. I don't know what year
this is. Now you know the track, but I'm presuming
that there's different energy when you approach this about how
are you gonna put down on the track, what your
car is going to do? Does it keep ramping up
for you? Or is it a case of here we
(09:22):
go again?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah, Look, it does change a bit every year. I
Mean the nice thing is we've got exactly the same
car from last year, so we know that car well.
I've been with the same teammates for three years now,
we know each other well. I guess some of it
comes down to the preparation. And we've had a really
strong first three races as a car crew, which is nice.
So we come here with confidence. We're PEO four in
the Championship, which I know it doesn't sound great from
(09:44):
our standards. You know, we won the Manufacturers Championship last
year with one driver's t was before, but we've been
on the back step in terms of performance for the
first three races of the year. We go we went
into the races knowing there was no chance to win,
and to finish on the podium was almost out of
the question, and we ended up with two firsts and
the fourth, which meant we executed, we delivered, and we
(10:04):
actually punched above our weight in terms of those results.
So we're coming in here with a lot of confidence,
which is nice, and I think other years that it
might it can be different. I would say, I'm also
evolving as a as a human. You know, I'm a father.
Now I'm getting old old, you know, dynamics change how
you approach things that they subtlely change, and you try
and learn from your mistakes. I think that's that's the
big point. You know. Last year, I took it badly
(10:26):
that we lost that race when we were in a
position for so long to win it, and it crumbled
at the end when it started to rain. And you
do a lot of reflection and try and figure out
what you can do differently, not not just point the
finger and everything else. So yeah, you always try and
learn from those previous races as well. They say, as
a team in terms of personnel drivers, we're very experienced
(10:48):
and as now we've got to put it into action.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Really looking forward to this week and as always it's
such a delight. Just don't break my heart like you
did last time. Thank you, bringing a hearty Thank you
very much for your time. Stay safe, mate, drive fast,
get amongst.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, cheers, we'll do our best.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Sports time for a little one down memory lane. It
was twenty years ago, but I'm sure you'll still remember this.
So ten years.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
From letting one off and slip away to Michael Campbell,
let's go win the US Open, who thought about quitting
professional golf while sitting in a French hotel room back
in ninety eighty. He had slipped a three hundred and
sixty in the world rankings and has come back.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
All the way to the top. Yeah, that's Michael Campbell
winning the two thousand and five US Open at Pinehurst.
Number two. Two thousand and five had actually started terribly
for Michael Campbell. He missed the cut in his first
five tournaments of that year, and his average first round
in those tournaments was seventy five. He only made it
(11:51):
into the US Open field through qualifying and had to
sink a six foot birdie put on the very last
qualifying hole even to sneak in. Once he got in,
he shot a one over seventy one on day one.
He moved into a typhers sixth after the second round
with a one under sixty. He stayed in touch with
another seventy one on the Saturday, and then held off
(12:13):
a charging Tiger Woods on the Sunday to shoot another
sixty nine and win by two shots to emulate Sir
Bob Charles as the only other keiwek to win a
men's golfing major. As every golfer knows, the sport can
be very cruel. It can be unforgiving, it can be deflating,
it can be demoralizing, and that's why you have to
(12:35):
treasure and cherish the successes you have when they come along,
just as Ryan Fox has recently, and we watch with
interest his progress at this US Open over the weekend.
It's successes like that that Michael Campbell I'm sure still
cherishes two decades on, because no one can ever take
(12:56):
away that wonderful June day in two thousand and five
when Cambo stood on top of the golfing world.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Into the Chamber we go, with the weekend looming, in fact,
the weekend basically here, let's turn predictor shall we darsk?
We've got a couple of Super Rugby semi finals. I
don't expect you to be objective about the Crusaders against
the Blues tonight, But what does your gut tell you
will happen in this game? And then I'll tell you
what my gut's telling me.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
My gut tells me that this is going to be
scary for the Red and Blacks. And I know they're
almost unbeaten. In fact, they are unbeatable when it comes
to knockout games in Super Rugby. What's thirty on the
bounce now, it's phenomenal. But the way the Blues have climbed,
the way they've managed to poured away the Chiefs are
they're going to come down with a lot of confidence
in what they do. Crusaders very confident at home as well,
(13:51):
apparently it's going to be absolutely miserable out there, so
that might work. But I'm not taking these guys lightly
at all. The Blues.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
See it's funny. I see, I've got the Crusaders winning
this going away, you know, not away from home, but
you know, winning it comfortably. I've got thirteen plus. I
get what you're saying about the Blues, and you look
at their lineup and they are a very very good
rugby team, as they displayed a week ago against the Chiefs,
and resilience to keep their season alive. I just think
(14:20):
their season ends tonight. The Crusaders, to me are the
Crusaders of old. Twenty twenty four, clearly an outlier, a blip.
And as you say that home record, you know, while
vern Cotta might be trying to paint it as something
which is a millstone around their neck, I think it's
a badge of honor. The fact you never lose a
knockout game at home. Goodness me.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And they're only missing one Titan and Dad is to
Mighty Williams. But you look at my favorite and I've
been going on about this guy for the last few weeks.
On side of the scrum Fletcher Neil water freak.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, unbelievable player, and the fact he plays so many
minutes for a front row or so often is quite
something in the modern day game. All right, well, let's
we can look. I think we both. You want the
Crusaders to wait, I think the Crew. I think the
Crusaders will win. But what about tomorrow night get close
to the Chiefs. Yes they will.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
The Brumbies have been the silent achievers. They know what
they have to do to beat the Chiefs. Conversely, the
Chiefs know what they have to do to beat the Brumbies,
but they will be a little freaked about what happened
last week. They're at home. They've been pretty much the
competition leader so far, whereas the Brumbies are built up
toward that it's going to be just like tonight, isn't it.
(15:33):
It's going to be peck and drive, smash bash up
the front. So Heather brings that most physicality should win that.
But there is the Damien McKenzie issue, of course, which
I hastened to add.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that might give them the
edge of those Chiefs forwards and they are a big
Narli pack and give him some front football. Then I
think it'll be a long night for those those Brumbies players.
But we wait and we see.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Ryan Fox is at the US Open at the Oakmont
Course in Pennsylvania, notorious for being a bit of a
graveyard for even the best golfers on the planet. I
reckon going round too in your first round? Eight too bad,
do us?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
He's a pretty good company too. There are some players
who've shot out the back door. What do they say?
You can't win a major in the first round, but
you can lose it. Is he still there or thereabouts?
Is he not? He's not that far away. He seems
to have dealt with the course very well so far.
What I like about this golf course, and he can
keep a steady hand. It doesn't take much for the
(16:35):
other players ahead of him to fall off the cliff.
It really doesn't. A couple of holes they might be
might have lost four strokes. So stay there, stay present,
and hope because.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I was hoping for some pearl of wisdom at the
end there. But I think I think you're mirroring what
we're all thinking. Yeah, just hope at the end. Only
ten golfers out of one hundred and fifty six went
under par. Look, the winning score in this tournament could
be could be over par. Even par might win it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
To us, could do. I know that I'll be locked
to the TV watching it though, because of what Ryan
Fox has done of recent times he's been here, he's
been extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Love it. Well, you won't have to worry about the
World Test Championship Final certainly not be on tomorrow, that's all.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Twenty eight wickets in two days. This game is finishing
overnight tonight, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I said something about maybe finishing in the early hours
of Sunday morning. I think then you basically poop pooped
me and I bow to your superior knowledge. All right,
what's going on over there? It's t twenty Test match cricket,
if you can have that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, it's quite remarkable really how it look the ball
is hooping around there. But it's remarkable how quickly the
world's top battest have forgotten how to how to occupy
the crease. It just doesn't seem to be in the
you know, in the minds of our top crickets at
all anymore. And maybe that's just the way cricket's going.
Maybe we are heading towards four day test matches as
(17:58):
the norm rather than the outlier or three day test
matches in this case. But yeah, we wait and see him.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Just I feel a little bad about saying this, but
you'll ways to get the feeling that the teams don't care.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, it's well, it's sadly, I think that won't be
too far from the truth. Just speaking of T twenty cricket,
what about Van Allen.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
What about Philling? We're watching that in the office going
what are you doing? Give us the skinny? What was
the score again? Four million off one?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
That's right, Well, he has it the most sixers ever
in a T twenty innings nineteen one hundred and fifty
one off fifty balls or something somewheit. He's striking at
three hundred are remarkable innings. And he's he's playing against
the Washington Freedom and it's basically as all his mates
Ben says, right, and Ravender and Glenn Phillips are in
(18:51):
that team. Ricky Ponting is the coach. And on a
baseball you know, at a baseball venue in Oakland, the
Oakland Coliseum, he's just hitting homers for fun.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Absolutely tore them apart and yeah it's his countryman that
he did it too, Glenn Phillips one over two runs,
Bean sears when at twelve point two five Rutchen Ravendra,
it's quite parsimoni? Is it only eighteen? They had a
whale of a time doing it, great morning and early
afternoons viewing too. Really really going to enjoy this, although
(19:24):
if it carries on in this vein, I'm not quite
sure how seriously we can take it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yep, who would be a bowler? Who would be a
bowler in Major League cricket? That's us in the chamber today.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
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I'm not so s sure.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
I'm not so sure. Can I get back to you
on that.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
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While I've got Monday. Sorry, I've got Tuesday through Friday
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello there and welcome into the sports Fix podcast. For
the back end of this working week for many anyway,
Sportsfix brought to you an association with GJ. Gardner Holmes,
New Zealand's most trusted home builder for June thirteen, Black Friday.
I'm Jason Pine.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
And black Friday. It is I'm that Darcy Watergrove. Actually,
as it happens, purely by I'm wearing all black today
on formal Friday, black tied, black shirt, black suit, black shoes,
not a black attitude, though I am nailing cats under
ladders on Tensing Fate. It's good.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, I feel underdressed, but fortunately this is mainly an
audio medium, so I think we should be okay now.
But weekend coming up for many of our sports people,
including one Brendan Hartley.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Brendan Hartley, phenomenal individual, roamed Formula one for a while,
but he's been running the World Enterance Championship for many
many years now, multiple world champion, multiple winner at in
a month and he'll join us slater on in the piece,
will actually almost immediately to talk exactly that.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Look forward to that. I've got a bit of a
trip down memory lane for you. And in the chamber
we try and pick our Super Rugby finalists. More as well.
In terms of the latest and sports news, let's get
into it in other news, let's get going with some
of the big sports stories around today. Ryan Fox will
begin the second round of the US Golf Open late tonight,
(01:45):
six back from the lead. The key we carded it
up and down two over past seventy two. He's in
a chef for thirty third. American JJ Sporn has the
outright lead by one. He's four under the card.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
This is only my second one. I just tried to
kind of tag with the chorus. Gave me head of
largged shots and trader capitalize on any very opportunities, which
you know aren't very many out here.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Pat Cummins has to come the eighth Australian to take
three hundred Test cricket wickets after helping demolish South Africa
for one hundred and thirty eight in the World Championship
Final at Lord's.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
There's a deep caw Corn of O Webster, he will
not touch this ballot.
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Gods, Rocket Cash, Bill Webster on the boundary come and
finished with six for twenty eight and Crusader's assistant coach
Brad More, hopes they can send off their temporary home
on a high.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
A semi final loss of the Blues tonight would spell
the end of a thirteen year stint at their current stadium,
and Addington.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Go back and find the real value in the central
aspect of that is massive, it's emotional, it means a
lot to why it's here. It's great to reflect on.
But we're not done yet.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Leading of X, We've got just the ticket. It's Sports
VEX powered by News Talks IVY Good evening, Brandon.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Hartley, even morning for me, but evening to you.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
We'll get there eventually, somewhere in the middle. Welcome to
News talked. Great that you guys managed to pick up
the phone every yarn various stages throughout the year. This
is the weekend though World Endurance Championship. This is all
roads lead to Lemon, this is the race.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
It is. Yeah. I like that you said I always
pick up the phone. I think my wife would say
something different than you. Probably would off here as well.
I don't think we've spoken in a while, but yes, mate,
I'm in Lamaw. I'm actually it's Monday morning. I'm sitting
in the motor home. Were just sorry Tuesday mornings. We're
the test day on Sunday. That went very well. We
(03:48):
finished up P one, which which meant we could sleep
better than last coup of nights. It went really well.
All three of us drivers, myself, Sebastian Area, we're all
We're all in the numbers, were filled up to speed
straight away, all smiling after driving background, you know, around
Lamon again after twelve months off, and yeah, we think
we have a real chance.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
It's saying supercars. It rolls off the truck, good, You're
going to have a good week in So that's what
you're kind of nudging it. It's turned up and pretty
good set up.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Look, the car hasn't changed from last year, so we've
had no updated at all. A few of the other
teams have small, small updates, so we know this car.
There's been you know a bit of development on how
we set the car up, how we use some of
the tools. You know, after three or four years in
the same car, you refine things. So there's been some
small improvements, but you've got to assume the others have
(04:35):
been improving too, and arguably more than us, considering that
you know a lot of the teams. I'm not going
to call them unexperienced, but they have less experience with
their car than us. But yeah, we feel good. I
wouldn't say we're the favorites. I do believe Ferrari have
the best package and performance, but we are very very
(04:56):
motivated to try and stand on that top step. They
beat us the last two years, which still hurts. You know,
we were so close on our car to win that
bloody race the last two years. So yeah, the motivation
is very high. Is it always as a Lamora and yeah,
we're going to go for it.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
From memory last time out it was a Ferrari that
finished it for you, wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
Ah, Yeah that is true. But as I said, yeah,
the last the last two years that they do hurt.
You know that there's so much work and emphasis goes
into this race from everyone. I mean, we respect our
competitors too, and yeah, but for to slip away towards
the end, which which happened the last two years, was
tough to take it was a tricky two weeks mentally
(05:38):
after the last one last year, last year's last year's race.
But yep, this this year is going to be well,
it's going to be incredibly tough again, arguably tough for
the last year that I think the competition is only getting.
I mean at the front has always been tough, but
it's the depth. You know, there's twenty three, twenty three
cars just in the hypercolor class. Still sixty two to
three cars on track at a time, but yeah, that
(05:59):
that depth and competition is massive. You know if every
single every single lineup, you know that every driver's either
been an F one, could have been an F one,
or they've made their career through endurance. I mean, there's
no weak link. And that goes for the teams and
all the other manufacturers as well, and that's going to
get even tougher the next years as well with Genesis
Ford McLaren. I mean, yeah, I think it's something that
(06:23):
I've never seen before, which is going to make it
even more special if we do get to stand on
that podium.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Sorry to bring that up, but you said it was
tough as a driver and a team. It's pretty tough
as a viewer too after watching for all that time
the depth, Like we spoke a few years ago and
there wasn't a lot of hypercr reaction. You were saying, yeah,
but in the next few years a number of manufacturers
are turning up. And you look at it now and
(06:49):
you've got Ferrari, Toyota, BMW, Cadillac, Porsche, Pergo, Aston, Martin Moore,
people are climbing on board. What's the excitement around hyper
cars around the Endurance Championship? Do you think?
Speaker 5 (07:04):
Did you have to read those off a list? Also,
just curious how big effect a good right because I
was just thinking if I had to listen them all,
I'm going to miss one. You've done the job.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Thanks for calling me out. I've got to be prepared
Britain and I can't just turn.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I was just seeing how how much of a fan
you with. I know you do actually watch the races.
I do believe you, because what was the what was
the actual question?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Why the acceleration scus the pun toward manufacturers in world endurances? Now?
Why why's so big? It's getting bigger? What's the what's
the drive?
Speaker 5 (07:36):
It's a World championship, cold on and I think the
other big draw is Lamon as a race, that the
history of the prestige. What that means for the manufacturers
as a brand. Most of the manufacturers have a history
in motorsport and specifically Lamare And yeah, I guess all
these manufacturers want to develop and show what they can
do in a competitive environment. I mean, effectively, we're we're
(08:00):
car salesmen. I guess you could you could say that,
you know, we're we're selling cars, but you know, in
a way I know exactly well, I can speak for
Twitter know. They want to develop new technologies in the
competitive environment, you know, to continue making ever better vehicles,
and they want to translate that into the road car.
And that's always been like that. But yeah, I guess
(08:21):
to answer your other part of the question, they've changed
your regulations a few years ago. It's become more affordable,
easier for manufacturers to come in and produce a card
that they can compete with. And it's worked, and you know,
we've seen a flurry of new manufacturers and the competition
that was highed. There's stacked field with drivers and teams
(08:42):
and private teams as well. You know, you've got private
teams who are buying a Porsche or a Cadillac who
are an incredibly high level and can take over those
those manufacturers cars. And yeah, it's awesome mate. It's definitely
a bit of a gold mirror for for insurance racing
and lucky to be with one of the one of
the most experienced teams. And now we've got to put
that to good ess.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
From a driver's point of view, Brandon, how do things
change for you year and year out? I mean, you've
won it, you've been there. I don't know what year
this is. Now you know the track, but I'm presuming
that there's different energy when you approach this about how
are you gonna put down on the track, what your
car is going to do? Does it keep ramping up
for you? Or is it a case of here we
(09:22):
go again?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
Yeah, Look, it does change a bit every year. I
Mean the nice thing is we've got exactly the same
car from last year, so we know that car well.
I've been with the same teammates for three years now,
we know each other well. I guess some of it
comes down to the preparation. And we've had a really
strong first three races as a car crew, which is nice.
So we come here with confidence. We're PEO four in
the Championship, which I know it doesn't sound great from
(09:44):
our standards. You know, we won the Manufacturers Championship last
year with one driver's t was before, but we've been
on the back step in terms of performance for the
first three races of the year. We go we went
into the races knowing there was no chance to win,
and to finish on the podium was almost out of
the question, and we ended up with two firsts and
the fourth, which meant we executed, we delivered, and we
(10:04):
actually punched above our weight in terms of those results.
So we're coming in here with a lot of confidence,
which is nice, and I think other years that it
might it can be different. I would say, I'm also
evolving as a as a human. You know, I'm a father.
Now I'm getting old old, you know, dynamics change how
you approach things that they subtlely change, and you try
and learn from your mistakes. I think that's that's the
big point. You know. Last year, I took it badly
(10:26):
that we lost that race when we were in a
position for so long to win it, and it crumbled
at the end when it started to rain. And you
do a lot of reflection and try and figure out
what you can do differently, not not just point the
finger and everything else. So yeah, you always try and
learn from those previous races as well. They say, as
a team in terms of personnel drivers, we're very experienced
(10:48):
and as now we've got to put it into action.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Really looking forward to this week and as always it's
such a delight. Just don't break my heart like you
did last time. Thank you, bringing a hearty Thank you
very much for your time. Stay safe, mate, drive fast,
get amongst.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Yeah, cheers, we'll do our best.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Sports time for a little one down memory lane. It
was twenty years ago, but I'm sure you'll still remember this.
So ten years.
Speaker 7 (11:16):
From letting one off and slip away to Michael Campbell,
let's go win the US Open, who thought about quitting
professional golf while sitting in a French hotel room back
in ninety eighty. He had slipped a three hundred and
sixty in the world rankings and has come back.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
All the way to the top. Yeah, that's Michael Campbell
winning the two thousand and five US Open at Pinehurst.
Number two. Two thousand and five had actually started terribly
for Michael Campbell. He missed the cut in his first
five tournaments of that year, and his average first round
in those tournaments was seventy five. He only made it
(11:51):
into the US Open field through qualifying and had to
sink a six foot birdie put on the very last
qualifying hole even to sneak in. Once he got in,
he shot a one over seventy one on day one.
He moved into a typhers sixth after the second round
with a one under sixty. He stayed in touch with
another seventy one on the Saturday, and then held off
(12:13):
a charging Tiger Woods on the Sunday to shoot another
sixty nine and win by two shots to emulate Sir
Bob Charles as the only other keiwek to win a
men's golfing major. As every golfer knows, the sport can
be very cruel. It can be unforgiving, it can be deflating,
it can be demoralizing, and that's why you have to
(12:35):
treasure and cherish the successes you have when they come along,
just as Ryan Fox has recently, and we watch with
interest his progress at this US Open over the weekend.
It's successes like that that Michael Campbell I'm sure still
cherishes two decades on, because no one can ever take
(12:56):
away that wonderful June day in two thousand and five
when Cambo stood on top of the golfing world.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Into the Chamber we go, with the weekend looming, in fact,
the weekend basically here, let's turn predictor shall we darsk?
We've got a couple of Super Rugby semi finals. I
don't expect you to be objective about the Crusaders against
the Blues tonight, But what does your gut tell you
will happen in this game? And then I'll tell you
what my gut's telling me.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
My gut tells me that this is going to be
scary for the Red and Blacks. And I know they're
almost unbeaten. In fact, they are unbeatable when it comes
to knockout games in Super Rugby. What's thirty on the
bounce now, it's phenomenal. But the way the Blues have climbed,
the way they've managed to poured away the Chiefs are
they're going to come down with a lot of confidence
in what they do. Crusaders very confident at home as well,
(13:51):
apparently it's going to be absolutely miserable out there, so
that might work. But I'm not taking these guys lightly
at all. The Blues.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
See it's funny. I see, I've got the Crusaders winning
this going away, you know, not away from home, but
you know, winning it comfortably. I've got thirteen plus. I
get what you're saying about the Blues, and you look
at their lineup and they are a very very good
rugby team, as they displayed a week ago against the Chiefs,
and resilience to keep their season alive. I just think
(14:20):
their season ends tonight. The Crusaders, to me are the
Crusaders of old. Twenty twenty four, clearly an outlier, a blip.
And as you say that home record, you know, while
vern Cotta might be trying to paint it as something
which is a millstone around their neck, I think it's
a badge of honor. The fact you never lose a
knockout game at home. Goodness me.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
And they're only missing one Titan and Dad is to
Mighty Williams. But you look at my favorite and I've
been going on about this guy for the last few weeks.
On side of the scrum Fletcher Neil water freak.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, unbelievable player, and the fact he plays so many
minutes for a front row or so often is quite
something in the modern day game. All right, well, let's
we can look. I think we both. You want the
Crusaders to wait, I think the Crew. I think the
Crusaders will win. But what about tomorrow night get close
to the Chiefs. Yes they will.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
The Brumbies have been the silent achievers. They know what
they have to do to beat the Chiefs. Conversely, the
Chiefs know what they have to do to beat the Brumbies,
but they will be a little freaked about what happened
last week. They're at home. They've been pretty much the
competition leader so far, whereas the Brumbies are built up
toward that it's going to be just like tonight, isn't it.
(15:33):
It's going to be peck and drive, smash bash up
the front. So Heather brings that most physicality should win that.
But there is the Damien McKenzie issue, of course, which
I hastened to add.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that might give them the
edge of those Chiefs forwards and they are a big
Narli pack and give him some front football. Then I
think it'll be a long night for those those Brumbies players.
But we wait and we see.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Ryan Fox is at the US Open at the Oakmont
Course in Pennsylvania, notorious for being a bit of a
graveyard for even the best golfers on the planet. I
reckon going round too in your first round? Eight too bad,
do us?
Speaker 3 (16:10):
He's a pretty good company too. There are some players
who've shot out the back door. What do they say?
You can't win a major in the first round, but
you can lose it. Is he still there or thereabouts?
Is he not? He's not that far away. He seems
to have dealt with the course very well so far.
What I like about this golf course, and he can
keep a steady hand. It doesn't take much for the
(16:35):
other players ahead of him to fall off the cliff.
It really doesn't. A couple of holes they might be
might have lost four strokes. So stay there, stay present,
and hope because.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
I was hoping for some pearl of wisdom at the
end there. But I think I think you're mirroring what
we're all thinking. Yeah, just hope at the end. Only
ten golfers out of one hundred and fifty six went
under par. Look, the winning score in this tournament could
be could be over par. Even par might win it.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
To us, could do. I know that I'll be locked
to the TV watching it though, because of what Ryan
Fox has done of recent times he's been here, he's
been extraordinary.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Love it. Well, you won't have to worry about the
World Test Championship Final certainly not be on tomorrow, that's all.
Speaker 5 (17:18):
What is it?
Speaker 2 (17:19):
Twenty eight wickets in two days. This game is finishing
overnight tonight, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
I said something about maybe finishing in the early hours
of Sunday morning. I think then you basically poop pooped
me and I bow to your superior knowledge. All right,
what's going on over there? It's t twenty Test match cricket,
if you can have that.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, it's quite remarkable really how it look the ball
is hooping around there. But it's remarkable how quickly the
world's top battest have forgotten how to how to occupy
the crease. It just doesn't seem to be in the
you know, in the minds of our top crickets at
all anymore. And maybe that's just the way cricket's going.
Maybe we are heading towards four day test matches as
(17:58):
the norm rather than the outlier or three day test
matches in this case. But yeah, we wait and see him.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Just I feel a little bad about saying this, but
you'll ways to get the feeling that the teams don't care.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
Yeah, it's well, it's sadly, I think that won't be
too far from the truth. Just speaking of T twenty cricket,
what about Van Allen.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
What about Philling? We're watching that in the office going
what are you doing? Give us the skinny? What was
the score again? Four million off one?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
That's right, Well, he has it the most sixers ever
in a T twenty innings nineteen one hundred and fifty
one off fifty balls or something somewheit. He's striking at
three hundred are remarkable innings. And he's he's playing against
the Washington Freedom and it's basically as all his mates
Ben says, right, and Ravender and Glenn Phillips are in
(18:51):
that team. Ricky Ponting is the coach. And on a
baseball you know, at a baseball venue in Oakland, the
Oakland Coliseum, he's just hitting homers for fun.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Absolutely tore them apart and yeah it's his countryman that
he did it too, Glenn Phillips one over two runs,
Bean sears when at twelve point two five Rutchen Ravendra,
it's quite parsimoni? Is it only eighteen? They had a
whale of a time doing it, great morning and early
afternoons viewing too. Really really going to enjoy this, although
(19:24):
if it carries on in this vein, I'm not quite
sure how seriously we can take it.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Yep, who would be a bowler? Who would be a
bowler in Major League cricket? That's us in the chamber today.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
US and a Vinion.
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Speaker 2 (19:40):
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Speaker 2 (20:09):
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