May 19, 2025 • 20 mins
On Sports Fix with Jason Pine for 19th of May 2025, Ardie Savea has had yet another inspirational game to lead Moana Pasifika to a win over the Blues. On top of that, he's locked up the Super Rugby Pacific player of the year award with two rounds to play. His continued excellence has led to some asking whether he should be given the All Blacks captaincy. Former All Blacks captain, Buck Shelford joins the podcast to offer his thoughts on Savea's form.
Piney expects more of the same from Auckland FC as they move 90 minutes away from the A-League grand final.
Plus, the Elijah Fa'afiu is back in the people's chamber to discuss the 5-match winning streak for the Warriors.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Fix podcast in association with JJ Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's
most trusted homebuilder. I'm Jason Pine. It's Monday, May nineteen.
Has there ever been a better individual Super Rugby performance
than that which Ardie Savia produced on Saturday night as
(00:43):
part of more Wander Pacifica's win over the Blues our
history making first ever win over the Blues. Probably not
easy to answer that question. Another one has arisen though,
off the back of that and his stupendous form in
Super Rugby this season. Should Ardie Savia be given the
All Blacks captaincy? He's captain of Maaana Pacifica has had
(01:06):
a massive influence there. Would he be in the conversation
for a change in the All Blacks captaincy?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Should he be?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Sir Buck Shelford is on the podcast today to give
us his views. We'll kick around that issue and a
few others in the Chamber with Elijah for a few
and the latest and sports news as well. So let's
get into it. In other news, Let's kick things off
as always with a look at some of the big sports.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Stories around today.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Max for Stampan has sealed his second Formula One win
of the season for red Ball.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's a staffen.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We'll return to the top stab of the podium.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
For victories in a.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Row with him a marxistuff and wins the Amelia Romagna Grand.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Prix, McLaren second and third through Lando Norris and Poulser
to Oscar Piastre respectively. Liam Lawson came home fourteenth. A
two to one Premier League win at west Ham has
kept Nottingham Forest hopes of a Champions League spot well
and truly alive.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Heading into their final match and there is the full
time whistle.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
He was Derby but they got there and nodding him.
Forest have that champize they dreams in tax. One game
to go and they're one point off the top.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Five for Night and Forrest to one of five teams
within a point of each other from third to seventh
on the table. The top five will play in the
Champions League and Scottis Scheffler has kept the field at
Bay to win a maiden PGA Championship Golf Major on
the Quail Hollow course.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
No matter, We'll just make the final margins five, Scottish Shuffler.
When's in a runaway leading a vix, We've got just
the ticket. It's Sports Fix powered by News Talks IVY.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
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Speaker 2 (02:53):
Saturday Nights at Albany saw one of the all time
great individual Super Rugby performances, herculean stuff from Ardie Savia,
leading Morea Pacifica to a first ever Super Rugby victory
over their cross town rivals the Blues, and his performance
has started a conversation which has been bubbling away for
(03:14):
a while actually, and that is around Ardie Savier and
whether he should be considered as All Blacks captain as
soon as this year. Let's bring in Sir Buck Shelford,
who captain the All Blacks through the back end of
the eighties and into the early nineties. They never lost
when you were captain, Sir Bark. So let's cut straight
to the chase. Do you think Ardie Savia should be
(03:35):
in the conversation to captain the All Blacks this year.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, I think he should be in the conversation. When
he actually made the orbless a few years ago, I
thought to myself that he's probably going to be the
captain of the future, and I just raised it and
wrote from the get go when he was a young guy.
And he's got all the characteristics of a great loose forward,
(03:59):
you know, with the ball in hand, defensively everything you know,
And okay, i'll give him his joos. He can kick
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't recall you doing a lot of grubber kicking
or kicking and chasing during your time, but I'm sure
you would have given it a go at some stage.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I didn't kick the ball at all. I just I
didn't have time to kick them all too busy worring
about the rest of the game, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Speaking of captaincy, then he's clear he's leading Maana Pacifica
and look he's obviously doing a terrific job there. When
you talk about leading the All Blacks, how how much
of a step up would that be for any player
from leading their Super rugby franchise to leading the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Well, I don't think on the field it as you know,
you've got in the era that I've played, we actually
did have three of maybe four or five captains from
their own provinces, and they were all good captains, you
know that. You know, you're looking at Bake Brewer. They
were all good captains and basically they could all done
the all Black job. But notwithstanding that, it's a different era,
(05:01):
different game, different rules, and I think that Artie's right
on top of his game at the moment and he's
just leading by ship performances alone. You know, I don't
think he talks to them much, and he lets them
get on with their game and he just plays the
game and they support him. Well. You know, some of
those players around him are really reinforced their opportunities to
(05:22):
make the someone inside as well, and even the or bles.
And I think that, you know, we're going to look
at him. He's a great leader, and he leaves by
performance first and foremost. And even you look at the
people who are watching the games on Saturdays, they say, wow,
that guy could play. You know, you don't hear too
many people talking in the pubs about it, about the
game of rugby, but when you have to hear the
(05:45):
ones that know rugby and well he is fantastic, that kid. Yeah,
so I think you'd be a great captain for the
or Blacks.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Have you seen examples of a player who's been given
the captain C and that captain C sits heavily on
their shoulders, not necessarily what happens on the field back,
but you know that everything that goes with it, the
outside responsibility. Well, I guess what I'm asking is there
is there a case to just let Ardie Savier lead
within the team without wearing the armband.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Well, it doesn't really bother me. You know, if you're
going to be the leader, take the leadership. You give
him the leadership. And I think he's a good leader.
You know, I've only talked to the man once, and
but you know, of what I've seen of the way
he plays, I say he'll be talking since anyway. I
(06:35):
think that performance alone fantastic. But I think that he
can be a very very very good vocal because he
knows the game really really well. You know, he plays
it well and he knows it well. And I think
that you know, you can do both jobs quite easily.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, do you think the captain C enhanced you as
a rugby player.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well, I didn't kept in many teams until I was
in my I have to say, into my mid twenties.
I'm very captain, a very fifteen and then all of
a sudden I got asked to take captain the New
Zealand Combined Services and then my club team, and I
just went on from there. So I went from you know,
a club team to Combined Services at North Harbor. You know,
(07:22):
just w went from there and went to Auckland. I
never kept at Auckland, but then made the All Blacks
from North Harbor and then the Core Cup from Brisweli.
But all the other teams, all the other teams that
I've played for over that period of time, Combined Services,
all that sort of stuff, I kept it. Yeah, the
background I had was military, which was quite disciplined and
(07:45):
about doing things right and you know, getting it right
and all those sorts of things that sticked to the
game plan and until we had to change it if
we're under pressure. But there's the last three or four
or four years of my career from eighty seven to
ninety when I got subsequently dropped out of the team.
I actually I believe the leadership that i'd done through
(08:08):
the navy or for the five or six years eleven
years that I was in the Navy held me in
good skit because it's all about leadership in the military,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that era of New Zealand rugby is still so
fondly remembered, from basically from the eighty seven World Cup
through until nineteen ninety, you know, a couple of unbeaten
years pretty much under your leadership. So you never felt
encumbered by the captaincy of the national side.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Well, no, not at all. I just believe that, you know,
I could do the job, and so I just got
on with it. But I wasn't scared of asking the
players what do you think, what are we going to
do now? What shall we do now? You know? And
we would share the responsibility because you know, I'm not
the only one that could. We kept our team. There's
other guys that get captain teams as well. So it
was just getting the support from the other captains and
(08:56):
the team who kept in at various levels and you know,
get the guarant you know, get some consensus and then
go with it just straight away.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, So racer Choe Scott Barrett has this captain last year.
Can you see a set of circumstances where he makes
a change this year.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Well, you know, that's up to Raiser. But I think
you need a captain that's right out the front, right
out the front, performing getting things right, so he doesn't
make many mistakes, does he? No, no, and so but
with that he basically galvanizes the rest of the team
(09:35):
as well. And as when you galvanize the team just
by performance, you don't have to say a lot, you know,
And that's one of the things that I found that
when you galvanize the team into doing things really well,
you don't have to talk much. And because you know
our team and then in the eighties, eighty seven, eighty eight,
(09:57):
eighty nine, we just went out there and done everything
exactly how we wanted to do it. And there was
no team in the world could stand with us really
during that time. And basically it was until nineteen ninety
that we lost. I think it was the next loss.
So you know, at the end of the day, it
was a galvanized team. And the ten years through the
(10:19):
eighty seven right through the ninety I got job.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well, if anybody can galvanize a team like you used
to Bucky get the feeling it would be Ardie Savia
interesting decisions ahead of Scott Robertson as he pawned us
as All Blacks team for twenty twenty five and the
leadership group within it. So Buck Shelford joining us on
the sports Fix.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Podcast sports Peffects.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Job half done for Auckland FC and their A League
Men's semi final against Melbourne Victory Saturday night at Amy
Park in the pouring pouring rain. A very very professional
performance from Steve Coricker's men coming away with a one
nil win. They bring that back to go media stating
in this coming Saturday and if they can complete the
(11:01):
job there by avoiding defeat, then they will progress to
the Grand Final over King's Birthday weekend. Of course they
will host it if they make it. What was behind
this win over Melbourne Victory, Well, as always seems to
be the case with Auckland FC, it was their defense.
They weathered an early storm from Melbourn victory. He came
out of the blocks pretty fast against a team from
(11:22):
Auckland they hadn't played the previous week because of course
they didn't have to in the first week of the
elimination finals and they took a little bit of time
to get going, did Auckland f C. But then once
they did they just put on a typically Auckland f
C performance. Here's a great indicator of that for you,
Alex Paulson, Auckland f c's goalkeeper did not have a
(11:43):
save to make in ninety minutes. Melbourne Victory are a
very good attacking side with plenty of threats in the
front third, and yet they could not fashion a shot
on target for Alex Paulson to save. Now, granted, there
were many blocked shots and that talks to the defensive
capability of the likes of Dan Hall, Nando Pinneker, Hiroki
(12:05):
Sarki and others. But the fact that at home Melbourne
Victory couldn't test the opposition goalkeeper is a huge reason
why Auckland FC won this game. The goal logan Rogerson
latching onto a cross from the assist king Francis Devrees
nodding at home and giving Auckland FC the one nil win,
(12:25):
just back to the defense quickly. Melbourne Victory have now
played three times against Auckland FC and haven't scored a
single goal in any of their games. For Auckland, that
was their fiftieth goal of the A League season. They
have got to that number quicker than anybody else in
A League men's history. So to Saturday at go Media
Mount Smart Stadium, it is set to go mad at
(12:46):
go Media. I would suggest on Saturday night Steve Coriker
will employ I'm sure exactly the same tactics. Melbourne Victory
will give it a crack. What else can they do?
But I get the feeling Auckland FC's defense and their
attack as well will get the job done and we'll
all be back at go Media the following Saturday for
the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
The Chamber is now in session on sports Figs.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
On the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Time to pop into the Chamber, the People's Chamber on
a Monday, I reckon the most popular chamber across the week,
Elijah Few, who joins.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Us five in a row for the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Elijah, Look, I don't think we need to say our
year anymore. I think we can say this is shaping
up to be a pretty special year. Another narrow wind though.
The margins of victory aren't getting any bigger, but the
winning streak is getting longer.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What do you make of it all?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah, and the gray hairs increasing for the fans, and
the heart attacks are increasing by the week. Look again,
another sign of the resilience we've been talking about all season.
This time around, you know that they're up sixteen Nils
was ten minutes to go. They can see a couple
of late tries Dames Fisher Harris gets into the Sinburn
probably not ideal. And you're hoping that Fisher Harris doesn't
(14:02):
miss the next game, but it's looking like he might
do so. But again, the Warriors, they've been awesome. Five ones.
They're winning ugly, which is what you need to win
if you're going to excel in this competition. So I
mean props to them.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It feels like rich and repeat, doesn't it. We spoke
about this last week and the week before and probably
the week before that. The last three games over the
Cowboys thirty twenty six, over the Dragons fifteen fourteen, over
the Dolphins sixteen twelve. They had narrow wins over the
Tigers and the Roosters earlier on this season the Broncos
as well. But as we as we've said, they're actually
winning these games, aren't they. They are not as they
(14:38):
have more certainly did last season. You know coming out
on the wrong side. You mentioned James Fisher Harris. I
get the feeling he will miss this week, as will
Mitch Barnett because he's been called up to the new
South Wales origin side. So they're facing the Raiders without
their two co captains. That's got to hurt a bit.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
It definitely is, and i'd say congratulations firstly, too much Bonnet,
because it's well deserved his origin called up. He's been
outstanding the season for the Warriors. But I guess that
does leave avoid or two in terms of leadership and
who's going to step up in that. Oh, you've got
veterans like Kirk Cape Well, I guess in the backs
you've got Roger Twee Vasischek as well who can provide
that leadership. So I mean there's no shortage of leaders
(15:18):
but losing your two co captains is definitely a huge loss.
So we'll see how the Warriors step up, and particularly
considering they're going up against the Raiders, who they were
beaten quite comfortably in the opening week in Vegas, so
again it's gonna be another test of adversity and we're
going to see how the Warriors overcome this one.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Can't wait for it. That's a Go Media Stadium Sunday
night at six o'clock, twenty four hours previous to that,
Auckland FC Wall lineup in the Second League of their
A League Men's semi final against Melbourne victory. They bring
a one nil advantage back to Go Media. Any way
you can see they don't complete the job and make
the Grand final a week later.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I think it's Auckland FC's to lose, like they did.
What they needed to do over in Melbourne was to
get that one goal advantage. I will say, imagine we're
sitting here they had a two goal advantage and you
know it's unfortunately what happens to Nada Moreno a great
A great skill. I guess hitting both of the posts.
I don't think you meant to do it, but I
don't think I don't think it was his intentions. So
(16:21):
if we're sitting here talking about a two goal advantage,
I'd be greatly confident. One goal is defe something that
can be overcome if you're the victory. But I think
the way if Auckland FC have been playing this season,
and the way they're the defense in particular have been playing,
I don't see Victory getting the job or getting the
worn at Mount Smart.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, well, they haven't managed to score a goal against
Auckland FC in three entire matches this season and the
little draw on New Year's Day at go Media. Auckland
FC won two nil at Amy Park late in the
regular season, then again one nil on the weekend, so
melbourn Victory must be wondering what they have to do
to score a goal against Auckland F. See the other
stat which stands out from Saturday night is Alex Paulson
(17:02):
didn't have to make a single save, so Melbourne Victory
didn't get a shot on target. The shots they'd got
on target were blocked by the likes of Nando Pineka,
Dan hall A, Roki Sakai and others. So talk about
protecting your goalkeeper a bit of an armchair right in
many ways for Alex Paulson. But Melbourne Victory have to
chase the game this coming Saturday. I get the feeling
that's exactly what they'll do. And we said to be
(17:24):
focusing mainly on the Auckland professional sports teams in the
Chamber today, but it is worth talking about them. Mowana
pacifica beating the Blues for the very first time. There's
been a bit of chat in the time since about
some narratives coming out of the Blues earlier in the season.
We're not that keen on having Mouana Pacifica around, so
I don't know whether that was used as motivation, But
(17:47):
what a performance from Mowana on Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Yeah, well, I hope the Blues understand that there are
now two teams in Auckland rather than just them and
one a huge statement not only by the team but
by Ardie Savia, Like that is one of the greatest
individual performances I've ever seen. He was all over the park,
putting in chip and chases that you usually see a
backput in sixty meters spirals from inside his own twenty two.
(18:14):
And then at the same time he's you know, going
over and ceiling game winning players and you know, making
sure the Blues are not releasing And I mean, that's
just our standing from Artie, and I guess it justifies
his move. I guess before the doubters that he's had
about whether his level of player was going to decline
with Mina, it definitely certainly hasn't been the case. And
(18:36):
he's uplifted not only his own play, but Wine and
Pacifica's players, where it's been awesome to see.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I totally agree that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You know, it's hard to say, well, it's impossible to
say that any team as a one man or one
person team. But he has transformed them, hasn't he. You know,
last couple of years they were nowhere and he's turned up,
and he's just say he's lifted everybody else through his
own performances. Morena Pacific are actually got quite a tough run,
and haven't they. The Chiefs away next weekend the Hurricane
(19:04):
is a way to finish. They're on twenty eight points.
The Blues also have twenty eight with one game to
go against the Waratar, so it's still possible that the
Blues sneak in at the expense of winer Pacifica. But
I think anybody apart from a Blues fan, would say
we want Mowana in the six.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I think everyone wants to see Moana again in just
because of their own narrative that they've put together this season.
And I'm hoping for the Chiefs and the Hurricanes seek
that they haven't put together any narratives talking about Moana,
which will lead to another spectacular performance by Arti or
one of the other players in minor. But you know,
the Chiefs away is going to be very tough. I
(19:41):
do think the Hurricanes away it is probably the more
winnable contest. But either way, I mean, the run home
is definitely tough on miner but I'm definitely pulling for
Wine to sneak into the top six.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Ye we was speaking of narratives, So that's Artie Savier's return,
of course, isn't it to the team where he made
his name for so many years?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
The Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm talking here, so yeah, and look there's been so
many story lines written this year by that franchise you
wouldn't bet against another one Across King's Birthday weekend.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Chatting sport with you in the chamber, Elijah. Let's do
it again next week.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
We'll do you.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Thank you, Piny.
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Hi there and welcome into the start of a new
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Fix podcast in association with JJ Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's
most trusted homebuilder. I'm Jason Pine. It's Monday, May nineteen.
Has there ever been a better individual Super Rugby performance
than that which Ardie Savia produced on Saturday night as
(00:43):
part of more Wander Pacifica's win over the Blues our
history making first ever win over the Blues. Probably not
easy to answer that question. Another one has arisen though,
off the back of that and his stupendous form in
Super Rugby this season. Should Ardie Savia be given the
All Blacks captaincy? He's captain of Maaana Pacifica has had
(01:06):
a massive influence there. Would he be in the conversation
for a change in the All Blacks captaincy?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Should he be?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Sir Buck Shelford is on the podcast today to give
us his views. We'll kick around that issue and a
few others in the Chamber with Elijah for a few
and the latest and sports news as well. So let's
get into it. In other news, Let's kick things off
as always with a look at some of the big sports.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Stories around today.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Max for Stampan has sealed his second Formula One win
of the season for red Ball.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
That's a staffen.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
We'll return to the top stab of the podium.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
For victories in a.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Row with him a marxistuff and wins the Amelia Romagna Grand.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Prix, McLaren second and third through Lando Norris and Poulser
to Oscar Piastre respectively. Liam Lawson came home fourteenth. A
two to one Premier League win at west Ham has
kept Nottingham Forest hopes of a Champions League spot well
and truly alive.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Heading into their final match and there is the full
time whistle.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
He was Derby but they got there and nodding him.
Forest have that champize they dreams in tax. One game
to go and they're one point off the top.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Five for Night and Forrest to one of five teams
within a point of each other from third to seventh
on the table. The top five will play in the
Champions League and Scottis Scheffler has kept the field at
Bay to win a maiden PGA Championship Golf Major on
the Quail Hollow course.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
No matter, We'll just make the final margins five, Scottish Shuffler.
When's in a runaway leading a vix, We've got just
the ticket. It's Sports Fix powered by News Talks IVY.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
You're listening to the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Saturday Nights at Albany saw one of the all time
great individual Super Rugby performances, herculean stuff from Ardie Savia,
leading Morea Pacifica to a first ever Super Rugby victory
over their cross town rivals the Blues, and his performance
has started a conversation which has been bubbling away for
(03:14):
a while actually, and that is around Ardie Savier and
whether he should be considered as All Blacks captain as
soon as this year. Let's bring in Sir Buck Shelford,
who captain the All Blacks through the back end of
the eighties and into the early nineties. They never lost
when you were captain, Sir Bark. So let's cut straight
to the chase. Do you think Ardie Savia should be
(03:35):
in the conversation to captain the All Blacks this year.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Yeah, I think he should be in the conversation. When
he actually made the orbless a few years ago, I
thought to myself that he's probably going to be the
captain of the future, and I just raised it and
wrote from the get go when he was a young guy.
And he's got all the characteristics of a great loose forward,
(03:59):
you know, with the ball in hand, defensively everything you know,
And okay, i'll give him his joos. He can kick
a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
I don't recall you doing a lot of grubber kicking
or kicking and chasing during your time, but I'm sure
you would have given it a go at some stage.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
I didn't kick the ball at all. I just I
didn't have time to kick them all too busy worring
about the rest of the game, you know.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Speaking of captaincy, then he's clear he's leading Maana Pacifica
and look he's obviously doing a terrific job there. When
you talk about leading the All Blacks, how how much
of a step up would that be for any player
from leading their Super rugby franchise to leading the All Blacks.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Well, I don't think on the field it as you know,
you've got in the era that I've played, we actually
did have three of maybe four or five captains from
their own provinces, and they were all good captains, you
know that. You know, you're looking at Bake Brewer. They
were all good captains and basically they could all done
the all Black job. But notwithstanding that, it's a different era,
(05:01):
different game, different rules, and I think that Artie's right
on top of his game at the moment and he's
just leading by ship performances alone. You know, I don't
think he talks to them much, and he lets them
get on with their game and he just plays the
game and they support him. Well. You know, some of
those players around him are really reinforced their opportunities to
(05:22):
make the someone inside as well, and even the or bles.
And I think that, you know, we're going to look
at him. He's a great leader, and he leaves by
performance first and foremost. And even you look at the
people who are watching the games on Saturdays, they say, wow,
that guy could play. You know, you don't hear too
many people talking in the pubs about it, about the
game of rugby, but when you have to hear the
(05:45):
ones that know rugby and well he is fantastic, that kid. Yeah,
so I think you'd be a great captain for the
or Blacks.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Have you seen examples of a player who's been given
the captain C and that captain C sits heavily on
their shoulders, not necessarily what happens on the field back,
but you know that everything that goes with it, the
outside responsibility. Well, I guess what I'm asking is there
is there a case to just let Ardie Savier lead
within the team without wearing the armband.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Well, it doesn't really bother me. You know, if you're
going to be the leader, take the leadership. You give
him the leadership. And I think he's a good leader.
You know, I've only talked to the man once, and
but you know, of what I've seen of the way
he plays, I say he'll be talking since anyway. I
(06:35):
think that performance alone fantastic. But I think that he
can be a very very very good vocal because he
knows the game really really well. You know, he plays
it well and he knows it well. And I think
that you know, you can do both jobs quite easily.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, do you think the captain C enhanced you as
a rugby player.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Well, I didn't kept in many teams until I was
in my I have to say, into my mid twenties.
I'm very captain, a very fifteen and then all of
a sudden I got asked to take captain the New
Zealand Combined Services and then my club team, and I
just went on from there. So I went from you know,
a club team to Combined Services at North Harbor. You know,
(07:22):
just w went from there and went to Auckland. I
never kept at Auckland, but then made the All Blacks
from North Harbor and then the Core Cup from Brisweli.
But all the other teams, all the other teams that
I've played for over that period of time, Combined Services,
all that sort of stuff, I kept it. Yeah, the
background I had was military, which was quite disciplined and
(07:45):
about doing things right and you know, getting it right
and all those sorts of things that sticked to the
game plan and until we had to change it if
we're under pressure. But there's the last three or four
or four years of my career from eighty seven to
ninety when I got subsequently dropped out of the team.
I actually I believe the leadership that i'd done through
(08:08):
the navy or for the five or six years eleven
years that I was in the Navy held me in
good skit because it's all about leadership in the military,
that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
And that era of New Zealand rugby is still so
fondly remembered, from basically from the eighty seven World Cup
through until nineteen ninety, you know, a couple of unbeaten
years pretty much under your leadership. So you never felt
encumbered by the captaincy of the national side.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
Well, no, not at all. I just believe that, you know,
I could do the job, and so I just got
on with it. But I wasn't scared of asking the
players what do you think, what are we going to
do now? What shall we do now? You know? And
we would share the responsibility because you know, I'm not
the only one that could. We kept our team. There's
other guys that get captain teams as well. So it
was just getting the support from the other captains and
(08:56):
the team who kept in at various levels and you know,
get the guarant you know, get some consensus and then
go with it just straight away.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, So racer Choe Scott Barrett has this captain last year.
Can you see a set of circumstances where he makes
a change this year.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Well, you know, that's up to Raiser. But I think
you need a captain that's right out the front, right
out the front, performing getting things right, so he doesn't
make many mistakes, does he? No, no, and so but
with that he basically galvanizes the rest of the team
(09:35):
as well. And as when you galvanize the team just
by performance, you don't have to say a lot, you know,
And that's one of the things that I found that
when you galvanize the team into doing things really well,
you don't have to talk much. And because you know
our team and then in the eighties, eighty seven, eighty eight,
(09:57):
eighty nine, we just went out there and done everything
exactly how we wanted to do it. And there was
no team in the world could stand with us really
during that time. And basically it was until nineteen ninety
that we lost. I think it was the next loss.
So you know, at the end of the day, it
was a galvanized team. And the ten years through the
(10:19):
eighty seven right through the ninety I got job.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Well, if anybody can galvanize a team like you used
to Bucky get the feeling it would be Ardie Savia
interesting decisions ahead of Scott Robertson as he pawned us
as All Blacks team for twenty twenty five and the
leadership group within it. So Buck Shelford joining us on
the sports Fix.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Podcast sports Peffects.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Job half done for Auckland FC and their A League
Men's semi final against Melbourne Victory Saturday night at Amy
Park in the pouring pouring rain. A very very professional
performance from Steve Coricker's men coming away with a one
nil win. They bring that back to go media stating
in this coming Saturday and if they can complete the
(11:01):
job there by avoiding defeat, then they will progress to
the Grand Final over King's Birthday weekend. Of course they
will host it if they make it. What was behind
this win over Melbourne Victory, Well, as always seems to
be the case with Auckland FC, it was their defense.
They weathered an early storm from Melbourn victory. He came
out of the blocks pretty fast against a team from
(11:22):
Auckland they hadn't played the previous week because of course
they didn't have to in the first week of the
elimination finals and they took a little bit of time
to get going, did Auckland f C. But then once
they did they just put on a typically Auckland f
C performance. Here's a great indicator of that for you,
Alex Paulson, Auckland f c's goalkeeper did not have a
(11:43):
save to make in ninety minutes. Melbourne Victory are a
very good attacking side with plenty of threats in the
front third, and yet they could not fashion a shot
on target for Alex Paulson to save. Now, granted, there
were many blocked shots and that talks to the defensive
capability of the likes of Dan Hall, Nando Pinneker, Hiroki
(12:05):
Sarki and others. But the fact that at home Melbourne
Victory couldn't test the opposition goalkeeper is a huge reason
why Auckland FC won this game. The goal logan Rogerson
latching onto a cross from the assist king Francis Devrees
nodding at home and giving Auckland FC the one nil win,
(12:25):
just back to the defense quickly. Melbourne Victory have now
played three times against Auckland FC and haven't scored a
single goal in any of their games. For Auckland, that
was their fiftieth goal of the A League season. They
have got to that number quicker than anybody else in
A League men's history. So to Saturday at go Media
Mount Smart Stadium, it is set to go mad at
(12:46):
go Media. I would suggest on Saturday night Steve Coriker
will employ I'm sure exactly the same tactics. Melbourne Victory
will give it a crack. What else can they do?
But I get the feeling Auckland FC's defense and their
attack as well will get the job done and we'll
all be back at go Media the following Saturday for
the Grand Final.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
The Chamber is now in session on sports Figs.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
On the Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Time to pop into the Chamber, the People's Chamber on
a Monday, I reckon the most popular chamber across the week,
Elijah Few, who joins.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
Us five in a row for the Warriors.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Elijah, Look, I don't think we need to say our
year anymore. I think we can say this is shaping
up to be a pretty special year. Another narrow wind though.
The margins of victory aren't getting any bigger, but the
winning streak is getting longer.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
What do you make of it all?
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah, and the gray hairs increasing for the fans, and
the heart attacks are increasing by the week. Look again,
another sign of the resilience we've been talking about all season.
This time around, you know that they're up sixteen Nils
was ten minutes to go. They can see a couple
of late tries Dames Fisher Harris gets into the Sinburn
probably not ideal. And you're hoping that Fisher Harris doesn't
(14:02):
miss the next game, but it's looking like he might
do so. But again, the Warriors, they've been awesome. Five ones.
They're winning ugly, which is what you need to win
if you're going to excel in this competition. So I
mean props to them.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
It feels like rich and repeat, doesn't it. We spoke
about this last week and the week before and probably
the week before that. The last three games over the
Cowboys thirty twenty six, over the Dragons fifteen fourteen, over
the Dolphins sixteen twelve. They had narrow wins over the
Tigers and the Roosters earlier on this season the Broncos
as well. But as we as we've said, they're actually
winning these games, aren't they. They are not as they
(14:38):
have more certainly did last season. You know coming out
on the wrong side. You mentioned James Fisher Harris. I
get the feeling he will miss this week, as will
Mitch Barnett because he's been called up to the new
South Wales origin side. So they're facing the Raiders without
their two co captains. That's got to hurt a bit.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
It definitely is, and i'd say congratulations firstly, too much Bonnet,
because it's well deserved his origin called up. He's been
outstanding the season for the Warriors. But I guess that
does leave avoid or two in terms of leadership and
who's going to step up in that. Oh, you've got
veterans like Kirk Cape Well, I guess in the backs
you've got Roger Twee Vasischek as well who can provide
that leadership. So I mean there's no shortage of leaders
(15:18):
but losing your two co captains is definitely a huge loss.
So we'll see how the Warriors step up, and particularly
considering they're going up against the Raiders, who they were
beaten quite comfortably in the opening week in Vegas, so
again it's gonna be another test of adversity and we're
going to see how the Warriors overcome this one.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Can't wait for it. That's a Go Media Stadium Sunday
night at six o'clock, twenty four hours previous to that,
Auckland FC Wall lineup in the Second League of their
A League Men's semi final against Melbourne victory. They bring
a one nil advantage back to Go Media. Any way
you can see they don't complete the job and make
the Grand final a week later.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
I think it's Auckland FC's to lose, like they did.
What they needed to do over in Melbourne was to
get that one goal advantage. I will say, imagine we're
sitting here they had a two goal advantage and you
know it's unfortunately what happens to Nada Moreno a great
A great skill. I guess hitting both of the posts.
I don't think you meant to do it, but I
don't think I don't think it was his intentions. So
(16:21):
if we're sitting here talking about a two goal advantage,
I'd be greatly confident. One goal is defe something that
can be overcome if you're the victory. But I think
the way if Auckland FC have been playing this season,
and the way they're the defense in particular have been playing,
I don't see Victory getting the job or getting the
worn at Mount Smart.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, well, they haven't managed to score a goal against
Auckland FC in three entire matches this season and the
little draw on New Year's Day at go Media. Auckland
FC won two nil at Amy Park late in the
regular season, then again one nil on the weekend, so
melbourn Victory must be wondering what they have to do
to score a goal against Auckland F. See the other
stat which stands out from Saturday night is Alex Paulson
(17:02):
didn't have to make a single save, so Melbourne Victory
didn't get a shot on target. The shots they'd got
on target were blocked by the likes of Nando Pineka,
Dan hall A, Roki Sakai and others. So talk about
protecting your goalkeeper a bit of an armchair right in
many ways for Alex Paulson. But Melbourne Victory have to
chase the game this coming Saturday. I get the feeling
that's exactly what they'll do. And we said to be
(17:24):
focusing mainly on the Auckland professional sports teams in the
Chamber today, but it is worth talking about them. Mowana
pacifica beating the Blues for the very first time. There's
been a bit of chat in the time since about
some narratives coming out of the Blues earlier in the season.
We're not that keen on having Mouana Pacifica around, so
I don't know whether that was used as motivation, But
(17:47):
what a performance from Mowana on Saturday night.
Speaker 6 (17:50):
Yeah, well, I hope the Blues understand that there are
now two teams in Auckland rather than just them and
one a huge statement not only by the team but
by Ardie Savia, Like that is one of the greatest
individual performances I've ever seen. He was all over the park,
putting in chip and chases that you usually see a
backput in sixty meters spirals from inside his own twenty two.
(18:14):
And then at the same time he's you know, going
over and ceiling game winning players and you know, making
sure the Blues are not releasing And I mean, that's
just our standing from Artie, and I guess it justifies
his move. I guess before the doubters that he's had
about whether his level of player was going to decline
with Mina, it definitely certainly hasn't been the case. And
(18:36):
he's uplifted not only his own play, but Wine and
Pacifica's players, where it's been awesome to see.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I totally agree that's it.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
You know, it's hard to say, well, it's impossible to
say that any team as a one man or one
person team. But he has transformed them, hasn't he. You know,
last couple of years they were nowhere and he's turned up,
and he's just say he's lifted everybody else through his
own performances. Morena Pacific are actually got quite a tough run,
and haven't they. The Chiefs away next weekend the Hurricane
(19:04):
is a way to finish. They're on twenty eight points.
The Blues also have twenty eight with one game to
go against the Waratar, so it's still possible that the
Blues sneak in at the expense of winer Pacifica. But
I think anybody apart from a Blues fan, would say
we want Mowana in the six.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I agree.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
I think everyone wants to see Moana again in just
because of their own narrative that they've put together this season.
And I'm hoping for the Chiefs and the Hurricanes seek
that they haven't put together any narratives talking about Moana,
which will lead to another spectacular performance by Arti or
one of the other players in minor. But you know,
the Chiefs away is going to be very tough. I
(19:41):
do think the Hurricanes away it is probably the more
winnable contest. But either way, I mean, the run home
is definitely tough on miner but I'm definitely pulling for
Wine to sneak into the top six.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Ye we was speaking of narratives, So that's Artie Savier's return,
of course, isn't it to the team where he made
his name for so many years?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
The Hurricanes.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
I'm talking here, so yeah, and look there's been so
many story lines written this year by that franchise you
wouldn't bet against another one Across King's Birthday weekend.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Always a pleasure.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
Chatting sport with you in the chamber, Elijah. Let's do
it again next week.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
We'll do you.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Thank you, Piny.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Jason Pine and.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That brings the curtain down on this episode of the
Sports Fix podcast.
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