On Sports Fix with Jason Pine for 3 November 2025, Piney shares his thoughts on the ongoing Netball NZ saga after Dame Noeline's first public interview this morning with the Mike Hosking. Newstalk ZB's sport director Clay Wilson joins with his assessment of the situation that continues to unfold, and the pair discuss the All Blacks' win over Ireland in Chicago.
Plus, Thad Taylor, TAB racing bookie joins the podcast ahead of tomorrow's race that stops two nations - the Melbourne Cup!
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello there and welcome into a new weeknd into a
new episode of the Sports Fixed podcast. We're here in
association with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.
I'm Jason Pine. On Monday, November third on News Talks EDB.
This morning we heard for the first time from Dame
Nolin Todoua after the last couple of months, during which
(00:43):
she has been embroiled in what can best be described,
in my words anyway, as another shambles at Netpaul New
Zealand's I've got some thoughts on that on the Sports
Flex podcast today, as I o'klay Wilson will as well
when he pops into the chamber. And tomorrow, being the
first Tuesday in November, is the day of the race
that stops two nations, the Melbourne Cup at Flemington in
(01:05):
Melbourne tomorrow afternoon, just after five o'clock New Zealand Time,
Who are the favorites? Who should you look at? Maybe
having a flutter on and what are the key we connections.
Fad Taylor, bookmaker with the Tab, racing Bookie at the
Tab to join us on Sports Fix two and the
latest in sports news. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Leading a vix.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's Sports Fix News Talks IVY for usual.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Let's get underway with a look at some of the
big sports stories around today. The availability of Scott and
Jordi Barrett for this weekend's All Blacks Test against Scotland
in Edinburgh will be decided overnight here as assistant coach
Tamothy Ellison on the stitches. First of all, required to
a leg gash for Scott Barrett.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Think he got twelve on the outside and twelve on
the inside or six and six. Pretty nasty kind of
cut to the leg to take a scooter off that
quick in dock new pretty fast.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And scans for Jordy Barrett's ankle.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
We jumped shut on the plane after the game, so
the plane had a few bits, but it didn't have
a any Moro machine.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The Phoenix have drawn one all away against the Central
Coast marin Is in a league football opening the scoring
in just the fourth minutes. Woke cut back and good.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Save initially by red name, but not enough to tonight
if the essay on the follow up.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The Phoenix remain undefeated in fourth place on five points.
Auckland FC lead on seven. The two of them meet
on Saturday night in the Capitol and India have won
their first Women's fifty over Cricket World Cup the final,
a victory by fifty two runs over South Africa, who
were humming at two twenty for six in the forty
second over, chasing two ninety nine to win in Mumbai
(02:38):
until this from Amanjot Corps at deep midwickets up in
the air, can anyone get there? Attempt? Why'd you believe it?
Jump in the deep? What a moment? That is the
satura African captain and has to.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Go dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfex with Jason vine.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
As you have no doubt heard Dave. Noline Toadua has
for the first time since her employment dispute with Nepor
New Zealand spoken publicly. She was on the My Costing
breakfast this morning. But unfortunately, due to the fact that
she has no doubt been told what she can and
can't say, there are still more questions than there are answers.
The main one for me is that Dame Nolen Todouer,
(03:24):
in her own words, has not been told what she
did wrong. Under employment law, surely she has to be
given the nature of the allegations against her, and not
just employment law but common sense. If you or I
were called into a meeting of such gravity with our
employer that we were being stood down, you would absolutely
(03:48):
be within your rights to know the reason why you
were there. What have you done that has compelled your
employer to take such drastic action. But apparently Dame Nolen
hasn't been told, So what have they been doing for
two months if they haven't told of the nature of
(04:09):
the allegations against her. We can all put ourselves in
that position and say, if we were called to a
meeting about our employment and told it was under severe
risk and told why we weren't sitting in that room,
I just don't think any of us would believe that
that was a normal way of going about things. It
just moves us further and further away from common sense.
(04:32):
Let's just have an adult conversation here. If there are
problems with dan Noline Totoo as coaching. Tell her what
they are and then let's address those concerns. Sit around
a table like adults and address the concerns, whether her
training's too tar for the way she treats players who
have been dropped from a team, or whatever it is.
(04:55):
Let's be adults and sit around the table and work
things out. We're all adults. We can handle the truth.
Give us the truth, and there has been a severe
lack of that incidentally from nep On New Zealand, the
recipient of taxpayers money, so they do have to be
held accountable. This needs to be a cautionary tale, a
(05:16):
seminal moment. There has to be some sort of repercussion
for netball New Zealand here because it will go down
without a doubt as one of the most shambolic chapters
in sports administration in this country.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax on the
Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
My favorite part of it is the Chamber when we
get to kick around a you sporting issues and joined
in the Chamber today by Sports News director with Newstalks,
hed B Clay Wilson Clay. We can only really start
with the netball and Dame Noline Todoua this morning, as
we all know, speaking for the first time with Mike
hosking about what has played out as you've ruminated about
(05:56):
it across the day, what's sort of jumping to the
front of your mind.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Well, for someone who clearly wasn't able to say certain
things and wasn't able to give a lot of detail
about a lot of things, I feel like Dame Nolene
said a lot, didn't she she's clearly very very firm
in her stance that she's done nothing wrong and that
she was very confident that she was in a strong
position in this situation, but she still wanted her job back.
(06:23):
Now there's still a lot of questions out there. She's
also very firm that she doesn't really know what she's
done wrong at all. So it's fascinating to think about
that alone offers up marriad questions, doesn't it if the
person that's been stood down doesn't know what they did wrong?
What has been happening for the last two months? And
(06:45):
I think this is a question a lot of people
will be asking. You. Do feel like there's a fair
bit of water still to go under the bridge here.
Of course, she's not coming back until next year. Now
she's not going away on this northern tour. But you know,
to me, Neble, New Zealand and Dame Nolean are still
very much working to get on the same page. And
(07:05):
Penny for you know, to be a fly on the
wall at Netball and ZHQ as Dame Nolen gave these
interviews this morning and what she said or you know
what she didn't say, but it's clear that she's very
firm in her belief that she's done nothing wrong and
that she deserved her job back. So how that plays
out and what changes do or don't take place with
(07:26):
the high performance environment watch the space.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Great summary, great summary, Penny for the thoughts too, Clay
of the players, because there are clearly in amongst all
of this some differing opinions, because otherwise we wouldn't be
having this conversation at all if concerns had not been raised.
And Dave Nolan said this morning that there had been
no investigation. But I remember vividly speaking to Steph Bond,
(07:52):
the head of the Players Association, on Weekend Sport a
month or so ago now when this was all sort
of playing out, and she said that initially that a
certain number of players have been spoken to and then
the entire playing group had been spoken to. Is that
an investigation or order or not? Or are we just
(08:12):
talking whatever definition you need to call something an investigation
or call something a discussion or a conversation. I don't
know the answer.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
The longer this goes on, this seems to becoming a
battle of semantics. Netboral New Zealand are interpreting and presenting
things in one way and Dame Nolean, now finally talking,
is clearly presenting things in a way that she understands
them and that she perceives them. Now, I think what
Dame Nolean's talking about is that there was no investigation
after she was stood down. That's my interpretation of what
(08:45):
she's saying. Of course, we know that after the players
made their complaints or they can raise their concerns that
Netboral New Zealand did conduct an investigation through Brian Stronach,
the former high performance man at New Zealand Cricket. He
led an investigation. There was an investigation, and then after
that she was stood down. I think what she's saying
is there was no specific investigation into me after I
(09:06):
was stood down. What's been happening since she stood down
is essentially lawyers going back and forth on whether she
can have her job back or not. But this is
it's a battle of semantics here, isn't it. She is
clearly not just going to toe the party line with
what Netbolle New Zealander is saying. She's to me a
little bit annoyed about the way some things have been presented,
(09:28):
and she's saying, here's my version. You know, we heard
the phrase a lot this morning, my truth, and I think,
you know, she's using that quite creatively in terms of
what she's constrained by with what she's allowed to say,
because she wants to make the point that perhaps what's
been presented by the National Body isn't necessarily her version,
(09:48):
or how what she believes is the accurate version of events.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Much more to come, I'm sure on this. Can we
talk some All Blacks Rugby. They beat Ireland yesterday morning,
first time since twenty thirteen the All Blacks have been
an Island in three consecutive test matches, all down to
the last twenty minutes. Really up until the hour market
it seemed, you know, a distinct possibility that Ireland would
win the game did you see this as a step
(10:11):
forward yesterday for the All Blacks under racer?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
The first sixty No, the last twenty yes. Is there
a way to answer that question.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So you can answer it anyway you like, we're all
we can all speak freely in the.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Chamber And the first sixty was it felt more like
seventy or seventy five, And with all the stoppages, that's
all I remember thinking for that first hour or so
of that match was, you know, the Chicago match is
all about marketing the game to the US, and you know,
selling the game to a different part of the world,
and rugby was not doing itself any favors. Technology wasn't helping,
(10:45):
I suppose. But look, if you tuned in and watched
the last twenty minutes of that game, you're happy. And
if you're a casual rugby fan, you're going to say, Wow,
I want to watch more. The first sixty not so much.
And you know, it's kind of been a theme of
this All Black season, hasn't it That we've seen great
things in patches, but not consistently. Now, you know, in
their defense, they've had a week or two off here
(11:07):
since the end of the rugby Championship, They've traveled to Chicago,
different environment, all those kinds of things. Scotland is in
opposition this week, yes strong, Yes, you don't expect it
to be one way traffic. But after having got back
in the settle, so to speak, I expect a much
more consistent showing across the eighty minutes on Sunday at Murrayfield.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I do too, and I think the way the
tour structured is he will probably pick a similar team
for this game, with injuries obviously into the equation, a
similarly strong team against England, and then I guess once
we reach Wales, on paper anyway, that should be a
team that no matter which team he puts out, he
should probably win. But yeah, I agree with you. I
think the twenty minutes at the back end of yesterday
(11:48):
was a step forward and if they can convert that
into a forty sixty who knows even eighty minute performance,
then I think we'll all be happy. Thanks so much
for joining us in the chamber to day. Client's been
thought provoking as always, no problems pinning sports Fax. You're
listening to the sports Fix podcast. The Race that Stops
Two Nations, The Melbourne at Flemington just after five o'clock
(12:10):
tomorrow afternoon. New Zealand time always the first Tuesday in November,
of course, So who should we look for and where
could you potentially place your once a year flutter if
that's what you do. Tab racing bookie Thad Taylor is
with us first of all, Thad, how big a day
is Melbourne Cup Day?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
For the tab It is the biggest good evening, Jason
is the biggest, still the biggest, no doubt, and still
dwarfs most of our other big meetings. Around eleven and
a half to twelve million dollars of turnover tomorrow on
the Cup itself in the day we'll have around thirty
million dollars waged inner and that still makes it around.
So we've got some big meetings in New Zealand and
New Zealand Trotting Cup has a big day there and
(12:49):
that's not too far away down there at Addington. The
crack a Millions three year old meeting of the crack
a Millions meeting at Oursley is now a large meeting,
as is the nzbkey. But we're talking four or five
times amount of turnover on the New Zealand. I'm sorry
in the Melbourne Cup as opposed to those other big meetings.
So dwarfs our second biggest race meanings of the day
is the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Still we always love a key we connection to the
Melbourne Cup. So New Zealand bred horses, jockeys with New
Zealand links. What can you tell us?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, this is a race that's really turned into an
international race, Jason. Sixteen of the last twenty three runners
have been European bred, so we are seeing a sort
of a push towards that. What we can hang our
hat on is certainly the trainer Chris Waller. He's is
based in Sydney now, but he is Australia's best trainer.
Hails from Foxton of all places, and out there flying
(13:40):
the flag for New Zealand in Sydney. He's got a
really strong hand and the Cup. He's got a number
of horses, including the likes of Buccaroo in this race
among others. More fallons and scroll down the page Land
Legend and the like so River of Stars who ran
second in a Corfield Cup and the lead up, so
he's a major chant. Valiant King also ran a very
good race that is trained by Chris Waller, so he's
(14:01):
got five or six chances to win the races years.
Chris Waller and then James McDonald is the other one.
He is right. A horse called may Darn for Simon
and Ed Crisford to run for ninth in the Corfield
Cup was better than it looked. Gets the visitor's drawer
and barrier twenty two, almost the outside barrier in a
Melbourne Cup. But Jane McDonald, if anyone can give it
(14:21):
a stare, it has one Jmax. So yeah, it's way
from the horse is a lot more than it ever
has been. With the Europeans dominating the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There's one punter I see who has probably reason to
be more interested than just about anybody else. He has
the opportunity, if things go well tomorrow, to turn a
seven dollars forty one bet into seven hundred and thirty
thousand dollars. How's he done?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
This? Not bad going? Is it not bad going? Jason?
If you can, if you can find it, No congratulations
to that customer. As he spoke to that customer last week,
I had a chat to them about how they were
feeling about going into it. It was a night in
January I can paint the picture for It's a Night
in late January and decided to take this bet and
took nine legs over the wee kend of the first
(15:09):
of February the second of February, and then threw in
three futures bits. One was the Everest which was won
by car Ying Rising, one was the Coxplate which was
won by vs. Estena, and then he threw a Melbourne
Cup place bet to top it off to make it
a twelve leg multi which is live for seven hundred
and thirty two dollars and Bukaroo number two in the
book needs to run in the top three for that
(15:32):
customer to cash seven hundred and thirty two dollars. They
wanted to remain anonymous, and the main reason behind that
was they were worried about their bear bill. We're going
to have to buy enough already, and so they didn't
want to do any sort of live interviews in the light.
So it was nice to chat to them. I wish
them all the best that you just sort of tip
your hat to those ones. Those are the ones you
(15:52):
dream of. Obviously, we talk about betting responsibly here and
that's a major part of what we do. But we
also need to celebrate these events when they come about,
because that's one heck of a bet. Twelve legs, seven
dollars and forty one cents and a seven hundred and
thirty two thousand of buccaroo can run top three tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
All right, go buckerou. Indeed, So what about the rest
of us there some of those listeners, many of us
who really only bet one day year and it's on
Melbourne Cup days. So what should we be doing as
we as we make our selections tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yes? Good. This is the thing about the Melbourne Cup,
Jason I said. Ere. It's great for an old form
hound like me because you can try and it's the
ultimate challenge to try and dive into this form line up,
all these different international raiders. But it's also equally as
fun to just find something that sort of tweaks your interest,
whether it be a jockey or a certain trainer or
the colors of a horse you know, and they're equally
(16:43):
almost equally as likely to find the winner. Awfully difficult
race to find the winner because he won. There's twenty
four horses and so it's completely wide open with seven
dollar favorites to win. The race, you look back to
the Corfield Cup. I still think you need to do that.
Look back to the Corfield Cup as the traditional lead
up to the Melbourne Cup, and we see a lot
of good chances coming through that Corfield Cup, including the
(17:04):
favorite half Yours, who won the race. The double doesn't
happen to often, the Corfield Melbourne Cup double, but Jamie
Mallam rides and she would be the second female jockey
to win the Melbourne Cup after Michelle Payne won in
twenty fifteen on Prince of Penzance. And she is the
current favorite there at seven dollars fifty. But some other
good runs out of that Corefield Cup. I like to
(17:24):
look to the likes of Prisage not Turn, and there's
a bit of rain abound around in Melbourne apparently today
and tomorrow. If you like Gray's and the Wheat, if
that is an old adage that sticks with you, Presage
Nocturn is a Gray. It was a great run for
fourth and a Corfield Cup. And Valiant King is another
Gray who ran third in the Corefield Cup and it
is another Gray, So maybe it is going to be
(17:45):
Gray's in the wet tomorrow afternoon at Flemington, but look
chance's done in there. El Riffer is the top weight.
I think he's the best horse, hard to win with
fifty nine kilograms. Be his first run in Australia, but
his trained Joseph O'Brien, son of Aiden O'Brien, is won
at twice Joseph already, so he knows what it takes
to win a Melbourne Cup. And if you're looking for
the jockey with the coolest name, it looks at number
(18:08):
ten Flatten the Curve, a German raider who loves a
staying trip. Thor Hammer Hansoen the German rider. So maybe
it's as simil as that you like the jockey name.
I was certainly drawn to thor Hammer Hansen, but maybe
let's look to that Corefield Cup form was the race
this year.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Wonderful advice is always that all the best for a
fantastic day tomorrow and you'll be busy from sun up
to sundown. Appreciate you taking the time to have a
chat to us tonight, though down the.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Fun to be ringing red hot, but I love it, Jason,
Thanks for having me. Is always in good luck to
anyone tomorrow out there. If you're going to have a
flutter on the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello there and welcome into a new weeknd into a
new episode of the Sports Fixed podcast. We're here in
association with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.
I'm Jason Pine. On Monday, November third on News Talks EDB.
This morning we heard for the first time from Dame
Nolin Todoua after the last couple of months, during which
(00:43):
she has been embroiled in what can best be described,
in my words anyway, as another shambles at Netpaul New
Zealand's I've got some thoughts on that on the Sports
Flex podcast today, as I o'klay Wilson will as well
when he pops into the chamber. And tomorrow, being the
first Tuesday in November, is the day of the race
that stops two nations, the Melbourne Cup at Flemington in
(01:05):
Melbourne tomorrow afternoon, just after five o'clock New Zealand Time,
Who are the favorites? Who should you look at? Maybe
having a flutter on and what are the key we connections.
Fad Taylor, bookmaker with the Tab, racing Bookie at the
Tab to join us on Sports Fix two and the
latest in sports news. So let's get into it.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Leading a vix.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
We've got just the ticket.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
It's Sports Fix News Talks IVY for usual.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Let's get underway with a look at some of the
big sports stories around today. The availability of Scott and
Jordi Barrett for this weekend's All Blacks Test against Scotland
in Edinburgh will be decided overnight here as assistant coach
Tamothy Ellison on the stitches. First of all, required to
a leg gash for Scott Barrett.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Think he got twelve on the outside and twelve on
the inside or six and six. Pretty nasty kind of
cut to the leg to take a scooter off that
quick in dock new pretty fast.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
And scans for Jordy Barrett's ankle.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
We jumped shut on the plane after the game, so
the plane had a few bits, but it didn't have
a any Moro machine.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
The Phoenix have drawn one all away against the Central
Coast marin Is in a league football opening the scoring
in just the fourth minutes. Woke cut back and good.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Save initially by red name, but not enough to tonight
if the essay on the follow up.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
The Phoenix remain undefeated in fourth place on five points.
Auckland FC lead on seven. The two of them meet
on Saturday night in the Capitol and India have won
their first Women's fifty over Cricket World Cup the final,
a victory by fifty two runs over South Africa, who
were humming at two twenty for six in the forty
second over, chasing two ninety nine to win in Mumbai
(02:38):
until this from Amanjot Corps at deep midwickets up in
the air, can anyone get there? Attempt? Why'd you believe it?
Jump in the deep? What a moment? That is the
satura African captain and has to.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Go dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfex with Jason vine.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
As you have no doubt heard Dave. Noline Toadua has
for the first time since her employment dispute with Nepor
New Zealand spoken publicly. She was on the My Costing
breakfast this morning. But unfortunately, due to the fact that
she has no doubt been told what she can and
can't say, there are still more questions than there are answers.
The main one for me is that Dame Nolen Todouer,
(03:24):
in her own words, has not been told what she
did wrong. Under employment law, surely she has to be
given the nature of the allegations against her, and not
just employment law but common sense. If you or I
were called into a meeting of such gravity with our
employer that we were being stood down, you would absolutely
(03:48):
be within your rights to know the reason why you
were there. What have you done that has compelled your
employer to take such drastic action. But apparently Dame Nolen
hasn't been told, So what have they been doing for
two months if they haven't told of the nature of
(04:09):
the allegations against her. We can all put ourselves in
that position and say, if we were called to a
meeting about our employment and told it was under severe
risk and told why we weren't sitting in that room,
I just don't think any of us would believe that
that was a normal way of going about things. It
just moves us further and further away from common sense.
(04:32):
Let's just have an adult conversation here. If there are
problems with dan Noline Totoo as coaching. Tell her what
they are and then let's address those concerns. Sit around
a table like adults and address the concerns, whether her
training's too tar for the way she treats players who
have been dropped from a team, or whatever it is.
(04:55):
Let's be adults and sit around the table and work
things out. We're all adults. We can handle the truth.
Give us the truth, and there has been a severe
lack of that incidentally from nep On New Zealand, the
recipient of taxpayers money, so they do have to be
held accountable. This needs to be a cautionary tale, a
(05:16):
seminal moment. There has to be some sort of repercussion
for netball New Zealand here because it will go down
without a doubt as one of the most shambolic chapters
in sports administration in this country.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax on the
Sports Fix podcast.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
My favorite part of it is the Chamber when we
get to kick around a you sporting issues and joined
in the Chamber today by Sports News director with Newstalks,
hed B Clay Wilson Clay. We can only really start
with the netball and Dame Noline Todoua this morning, as
we all know, speaking for the first time with Mike
hosking about what has played out as you've ruminated about
(05:56):
it across the day, what's sort of jumping to the
front of your mind.
Speaker 5 (06:00):
Well, for someone who clearly wasn't able to say certain
things and wasn't able to give a lot of detail
about a lot of things, I feel like Dame Nolene
said a lot, didn't she she's clearly very very firm
in her stance that she's done nothing wrong and that
she was very confident that she was in a strong
position in this situation, but she still wanted her job back.
(06:23):
Now there's still a lot of questions out there. She's
also very firm that she doesn't really know what she's
done wrong at all. So it's fascinating to think about
that alone offers up marriad questions, doesn't it if the
person that's been stood down doesn't know what they did wrong?
What has been happening for the last two months? And
(06:45):
I think this is a question a lot of people
will be asking. You. Do feel like there's a fair
bit of water still to go under the bridge here.
Of course, she's not coming back until next year. Now
she's not going away on this northern tour. But you know,
to me, Neble, New Zealand and Dame Nolean are still
very much working to get on the same page. And
(07:05):
Penny for you know, to be a fly on the
wall at Netball and ZHQ as Dame Nolen gave these
interviews this morning and what she said or you know
what she didn't say, but it's clear that she's very
firm in her belief that she's done nothing wrong and
that she deserved her job back. So how that plays
out and what changes do or don't take place with
(07:26):
the high performance environment watch the space.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Great summary, great summary, Penny for the thoughts too, Clay
of the players, because there are clearly in amongst all
of this some differing opinions, because otherwise we wouldn't be
having this conversation at all if concerns had not been raised.
And Dave Nolan said this morning that there had been
no investigation. But I remember vividly speaking to Steph Bond,
(07:52):
the head of the Players Association, on Weekend Sport a
month or so ago now when this was all sort
of playing out, and she said that initially that a
certain number of players have been spoken to and then
the entire playing group had been spoken to. Is that
an investigation or order or not? Or are we just
(08:12):
talking whatever definition you need to call something an investigation
or call something a discussion or a conversation. I don't
know the answer.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
The longer this goes on, this seems to becoming a
battle of semantics. Netboral New Zealand are interpreting and presenting
things in one way and Dame Nolean, now finally talking,
is clearly presenting things in a way that she understands
them and that she perceives them. Now, I think what
Dame Nolean's talking about is that there was no investigation
after she was stood down. That's my interpretation of what
(08:45):
she's saying. Of course, we know that after the players
made their complaints or they can raise their concerns that
Netboral New Zealand did conduct an investigation through Brian Stronach,
the former high performance man at New Zealand Cricket. He
led an investigation. There was an investigation, and then after
that she was stood down. I think what she's saying
is there was no specific investigation into me after I
(09:06):
was stood down. What's been happening since she stood down
is essentially lawyers going back and forth on whether she
can have her job back or not. But this is
it's a battle of semantics here, isn't it. She is
clearly not just going to toe the party line with
what Netbolle New Zealander is saying. She's to me a
little bit annoyed about the way some things have been presented,
(09:28):
and she's saying, here's my version. You know, we heard
the phrase a lot this morning, my truth, and I think,
you know, she's using that quite creatively in terms of
what she's constrained by with what she's allowed to say,
because she wants to make the point that perhaps what's
been presented by the National Body isn't necessarily her version,
(09:48):
or how what she believes is the accurate version of events.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Much more to come, I'm sure on this. Can we
talk some All Blacks Rugby. They beat Ireland yesterday morning,
first time since twenty thirteen the All Blacks have been
an Island in three consecutive test matches, all down to
the last twenty minutes. Really up until the hour market
it seemed, you know, a distinct possibility that Ireland would
win the game did you see this as a step
(10:11):
forward yesterday for the All Blacks under racer?
Speaker 5 (10:14):
The first sixty No, the last twenty yes. Is there
a way to answer that question.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So you can answer it anyway you like, we're all
we can all speak freely in the.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Chamber And the first sixty was it felt more like
seventy or seventy five, And with all the stoppages, that's
all I remember thinking for that first hour or so
of that match was, you know, the Chicago match is
all about marketing the game to the US, and you know,
selling the game to a different part of the world,
and rugby was not doing itself any favors. Technology wasn't helping,
(10:45):
I suppose. But look, if you tuned in and watched
the last twenty minutes of that game, you're happy. And
if you're a casual rugby fan, you're going to say, Wow,
I want to watch more. The first sixty not so much.
And you know, it's kind of been a theme of
this All Black season, hasn't it That we've seen great
things in patches, but not consistently. Now, you know, in
their defense, they've had a week or two off here
(11:07):
since the end of the rugby Championship, They've traveled to Chicago,
different environment, all those kinds of things. Scotland is in
opposition this week, yes strong, Yes, you don't expect it
to be one way traffic. But after having got back
in the settle, so to speak, I expect a much
more consistent showing across the eighty minutes on Sunday at Murrayfield.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Yeah, I do too, and I think the way the
tour structured is he will probably pick a similar team
for this game, with injuries obviously into the equation, a
similarly strong team against England, and then I guess once
we reach Wales, on paper anyway, that should be a
team that no matter which team he puts out, he
should probably win. But yeah, I agree with you. I
think the twenty minutes at the back end of yesterday
(11:48):
was a step forward and if they can convert that
into a forty sixty who knows even eighty minute performance,
then I think we'll all be happy. Thanks so much
for joining us in the chamber to day. Client's been
thought provoking as always, no problems pinning sports Fax. You're
listening to the sports Fix podcast. The Race that Stops
Two Nations, The Melbourne at Flemington just after five o'clock
(12:10):
tomorrow afternoon. New Zealand time always the first Tuesday in November,
of course, So who should we look for and where
could you potentially place your once a year flutter if
that's what you do. Tab racing bookie Thad Taylor is
with us first of all, Thad, how big a day
is Melbourne Cup Day?
Speaker 4 (12:27):
For the tab It is the biggest good evening, Jason
is the biggest, still the biggest, no doubt, and still
dwarfs most of our other big meetings. Around eleven and
a half to twelve million dollars of turnover tomorrow on
the Cup itself in the day we'll have around thirty
million dollars waged inner and that still makes it around.
So we've got some big meetings in New Zealand and
New Zealand Trotting Cup has a big day there and
(12:49):
that's not too far away down there at Addington. The
crack a Millions three year old meeting of the crack
a Millions meeting at Oursley is now a large meeting,
as is the nzbkey. But we're talking four or five
times amount of turnover on the New Zealand. I'm sorry
in the Melbourne Cup as opposed to those other big meetings.
So dwarfs our second biggest race meanings of the day
is the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Still we always love a key we connection to the
Melbourne Cup. So New Zealand bred horses, jockeys with New
Zealand links. What can you tell us?
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Yeah, this is a race that's really turned into an
international race, Jason. Sixteen of the last twenty three runners
have been European bred, so we are seeing a sort
of a push towards that. What we can hang our
hat on is certainly the trainer Chris Waller. He's is
based in Sydney now, but he is Australia's best trainer.
Hails from Foxton of all places, and out there flying
(13:40):
the flag for New Zealand in Sydney. He's got a
really strong hand and the Cup. He's got a number
of horses, including the likes of Buccaroo in this race
among others. More fallons and scroll down the page Land
Legend and the like so River of Stars who ran
second in a Corfield Cup and the lead up, so
he's a major chant. Valiant King also ran a very
good race that is trained by Chris Waller, so he's
(14:01):
got five or six chances to win the races years.
Chris Waller and then James McDonald is the other one.
He is right. A horse called may Darn for Simon
and Ed Crisford to run for ninth in the Corfield
Cup was better than it looked. Gets the visitor's drawer
and barrier twenty two, almost the outside barrier in a
Melbourne Cup. But Jane McDonald, if anyone can give it
(14:21):
a stare, it has one Jmax. So yeah, it's way
from the horse is a lot more than it ever
has been. With the Europeans dominating the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
There's one punter I see who has probably reason to
be more interested than just about anybody else. He has
the opportunity, if things go well tomorrow, to turn a
seven dollars forty one bet into seven hundred and thirty
thousand dollars. How's he done?
Speaker 4 (14:47):
This? Not bad going? Is it not bad going? Jason?
If you can, if you can find it, No congratulations
to that customer. As he spoke to that customer last week,
I had a chat to them about how they were
feeling about going into it. It was a night in
January I can paint the picture for It's a Night
in late January and decided to take this bet and
took nine legs over the wee kend of the first
(15:09):
of February the second of February, and then threw in
three futures bits. One was the Everest which was won
by car Ying Rising, one was the Coxplate which was
won by vs. Estena, and then he threw a Melbourne
Cup place bet to top it off to make it
a twelve leg multi which is live for seven hundred
and thirty two dollars and Bukaroo number two in the
book needs to run in the top three for that
(15:32):
customer to cash seven hundred and thirty two dollars. They
wanted to remain anonymous, and the main reason behind that
was they were worried about their bear bill. We're going
to have to buy enough already, and so they didn't
want to do any sort of live interviews in the light.
So it was nice to chat to them. I wish
them all the best that you just sort of tip
your hat to those ones. Those are the ones you
(15:52):
dream of. Obviously, we talk about betting responsibly here and
that's a major part of what we do. But we
also need to celebrate these events when they come about,
because that's one heck of a bet. Twelve legs, seven
dollars and forty one cents and a seven hundred and
thirty two thousand of buccaroo can run top three tomorrow afternoon.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
All right, go buckerou. Indeed, So what about the rest
of us there some of those listeners, many of us
who really only bet one day year and it's on
Melbourne Cup days. So what should we be doing as
we as we make our selections tomorrow?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Yes? Good. This is the thing about the Melbourne Cup,
Jason I said. Ere. It's great for an old form
hound like me because you can try and it's the
ultimate challenge to try and dive into this form line up,
all these different international raiders. But it's also equally as
fun to just find something that sort of tweaks your interest,
whether it be a jockey or a certain trainer or
the colors of a horse you know, and they're equally
(16:43):
almost equally as likely to find the winner. Awfully difficult
race to find the winner because he won. There's twenty
four horses and so it's completely wide open with seven
dollar favorites to win. The race, you look back to
the Corfield Cup. I still think you need to do that.
Look back to the Corfield Cup as the traditional lead
up to the Melbourne Cup, and we see a lot
of good chances coming through that Corfield Cup, including the
(17:04):
favorite half Yours, who won the race. The double doesn't
happen to often, the Corfield Melbourne Cup double, but Jamie
Mallam rides and she would be the second female jockey
to win the Melbourne Cup after Michelle Payne won in
twenty fifteen on Prince of Penzance. And she is the
current favorite there at seven dollars fifty. But some other
good runs out of that Corefield Cup. I like to
(17:24):
look to the likes of Prisage not Turn, and there's
a bit of rain abound around in Melbourne apparently today
and tomorrow. If you like Gray's and the Wheat, if
that is an old adage that sticks with you, Presage
Nocturn is a Gray. It was a great run for
fourth and a Corfield Cup. And Valiant King is another
Gray who ran third in the Corefield Cup and it
is another Gray, So maybe it is going to be
(17:45):
Gray's in the wet tomorrow afternoon at Flemington, but look
chance's done in there. El Riffer is the top weight.
I think he's the best horse, hard to win with
fifty nine kilograms. Be his first run in Australia, but
his trained Joseph O'Brien, son of Aiden O'Brien, is won
at twice Joseph already, so he knows what it takes
to win a Melbourne Cup. And if you're looking for
the jockey with the coolest name, it looks at number
(18:08):
ten Flatten the Curve, a German raider who loves a
staying trip. Thor Hammer Hansoen the German rider. So maybe
it's as simil as that you like the jockey name.
I was certainly drawn to thor Hammer Hansen, but maybe
let's look to that Corefield Cup form was the race
this year.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Wonderful advice is always that all the best for a
fantastic day tomorrow and you'll be busy from sun up
to sundown. Appreciate you taking the time to have a
chat to us tonight, though down the.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Fun to be ringing red hot, but I love it, Jason,
Thanks for having me. Is always in good luck to
anyone tomorrow out there. If you're going to have a
flutter on the Melbourne Cup.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
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