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December 10, 2025 • 17 mins

On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave and Jason Pine for 11th December 2025, the proposed NZ20 league has been a hot topic for cricket fans in New Zealand. It is one of the four options that were presented to NZ Cricket as the future for domestic cricket. Greg Barclay, the former chairman of the ICC, joined D'Arcy to discuss what the best path ahead is for NZC. 

D'Arcy shares his thoughts on creating mega-multis to last the weekend.

And D'Arcy and Piney discuss Sevu Reece leaving the Crusaders at the end of the next Super Rugby season, ruling himself out of contention for the 2027 Rugby World Cup - and Jason Holland returning as an assistant coach of the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Sports Fix This is your daily sporting podcast and association
with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's most trusted home builder.
On Thursday, December eleven. I'm Jason Pine.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
My name's Darcy Waldegrave and I, by the way, you
don't count Saturday and Sunday as a day because the
podcast is Monday through Friday. For you, it's very much
a day. Maybe for the rest of the world, they're
two days.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Off, right, Yeah, I think you're probably right, But I look,
rather than go back and re record, let's just carry on,
shall we with the week daily podcast Sports Fix. How
is that that might be a bit better?

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I'm so sorry for telling you off on this podcast.
You know, I got no one loves a corrector. I'll
tell you who we've gone on. We've got a guy
who's been at the seat of power and a number
of different sports, but up until a year ago, I
see see chair. His name is Greg Barclay talking to
him about what happens with short form cricket and New

(01:16):
Zealand and how long it's going to take. Interesting chat.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I think you'll agree, Oh, look forward to that. I've
got a few issues to kick around in the chamber
with you. Oddly enough, given we're in mid December, they're
both right for issues which have popped up today, so
I want to do that latest and sports news coming
your way as well, so heeps to get through. Let's
get into it. In other news, let's get underway with
a look at some of the big sports stories around today.
Seba Reese's All Black's career looks over after signing with

(01:41):
French club Pepannon on a three year deal. They've confirmed
his signing and a bizarre video from a first person
perspective but not narrated by Reese himself.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
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Catalan supporters, let's rate the next chapter together.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Wellington Phoenix goalkeeper josh Olawami is crediting thorough work in
the off season that has rediscovered form this A League season.
Despite Wellington's derby loss to Auckland at the weekend, Olliway
and he had a blinder at the back, making ten saves,
including two from the penalty spot.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
I think for me it was very, very important to
work on some of the things that I think I
could have improved on. I've earned a lot of distribution
and kicking and things like that. I'd still think there's
areas to improve as well.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
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and returning after five seasons in retirement fits the bill
for Philip Rivers, the forty four year old grandfather, has
answered an SOS from the Indianapolis Colts, who were in
the midst of a quarterback crisis. The game I love
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Certainly I wasn't really hanging on any hope of playing again.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
I kind of thought that shipud sailed by a something
about it excitingment use.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
And a Vinion. It's Sportsfix with Jason Pine and Dussy
Walter Grave and.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's a warm more welcome to the podcast now too.
Greg Barclay greg administrator at all in Cricket, including at
the very top of the tree for four years. He
was the Chair of the ic C from November twenty
twenty twenty twenty four. Previous to that, he was the
chair of New Zealand Cricket. Bob, We've got him on

(03:23):
to talk about what happens next with T twenty cricket
here in OTIORA good day, Greg, welcome to the show.
You know, like the finer details of the inner workings
of international national cricket.

Speaker 6 (03:37):
I'm presuming yes, hi Darsy, nice to speak again after
a period of time, but yeah, I sort of remember
most of what happened through that period of time, the
good and the band.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
It's changing quick and you know that during your time,
the landscape is constantly moving. It's rather seismic, if you would,
a lot of decisions for New Zealand cricket to make
domestic level right the way through the international level. What
do you think is the best path for New Zealand
cricket on a domestic level right now? Because this is

(04:11):
of course the big debate about what they do with
a super smash and so on and so forth. Is
there an ideal route through this?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
I think as has been mooted by a number of
the people that have been spoken to another only heard
what I've heard, So you know, my opinions is that
of another interested bystander, But I think that they've got
to do what they proposed. Matters, worked through each of
the proposals, consider what's best for cricket in New Zealand
and New Zealand cricket. It's something that does have to

(04:40):
involve New Zealand cricket, which I think from what I've
heard is the intention have looked at all the options
and make it an informed decision in due courts. So
from what Don McKinnon was saying about this enziet T
twenty proposal, it's exactly what they're intending to do. And

(05:02):
I know Don well, I work with him a lot,
I have a lot of time from He's a very
competent operator. So you know that will be the right approach.
And as I said, the other thing is that it
does need to involve all parties, including New Zealand Cricket,
which they appear to be doing as well. And in
fact that I think the Working Committee or the Establishment
Committee actually has a term of New Zealand Credits directors

(05:24):
on that committee. So that's absolutely the right approach. You know,
the outcome will be the outcome. Once I've considered the
various pros and cons, but it's probably two things out
of that. One is that this is not a new concept.
There are leaks in most for member countries around the world.
In fact, I think that we're pretty much down the
exception now. And the second thing is that on and

(05:45):
off since Jos involved in a working group when I
was Chair of Northern Districts Cricket in twenty ten to
have a look at privatization of domestic cricket in New Zealand,
I leader a committee when I was on the New
Zealand Board in twenty fourteen along with David Cooper, was
then Head of Domestic Cricket or General Manager of Domestic Cricket,
and we work through the men's professional competitions. We decided

(06:10):
that at that point it's a step too far to
privatize or to bring in external investment. But we did
revamp the super Smash, you know, we created a protector
window for it, participation agreements in place, funded accordingly, and
a number of other things. So you know, it's probably

(06:31):
ten years on now and at time time that it
was given another look.

Speaker 3 (06:34):
For sure, the biggest danger of privatizing the game at
this level selling the family Jills if you will, Well,
the first shooks here, What do they need to be
cautious of as they move through this process.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
Well, I think there's a whole lot of issues, aren't there,
and most of them have been well discussed. That the
first is ensuring that there is a window for it,
that that window doesn't compromise the international program by lateral cricket. Secondly,
that it both protects and enhances the high performance opportunity
for the players, that it retains the very best players

(07:11):
within New Zealand, that it doesn't rub up or upset
other competitions to the extent that you spent cricket's relationships
are harmed at all. And then, of course, as you say,
on the commercial side, it's making sure that whoever the
investor is or the investor parties are, that the right
parties with the right intentions for New Zealand cricket, because

(07:34):
we don't want to fall into the hands of a
group or the party of entities that would do anything
to damage or run contrary to the interests of cricket
in New Zealand.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Dissecting the sporting agenda, it's Sportsfix with Jason Vine and Darcy.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
Waltergrave fancy a punt bar eighteen? Of course bet responsibly,
as the tagline goes, Look, I'm not a big punter.
From time to time, I like to enjoy myself with
minimal expenditure. EI only bet what I can afford to lose,
and I can only afford to lose about ten bucks
at the time. So how do I get some form

(08:16):
of joy when I do bet from time to time?
I finally worked it out. It's taken me long enough.
I'm a bit slow, but I think I've got it.
I think I know how to make this a joyous
and long running occasion. Because you don't want the instant
hit of the game or the race and suddenly it
goes away when invariably you lose. You want to expand it.

(08:39):
You want to stretch your dollars out over the weekend.
That's where the magic of multis come in. And I've
got to say, I'm not being paid to say this.
No way, shape or form, am I getting anything from
the tab bet or whatever. Just doesn't happen. This is
just me musing in the vagaries of gambling and how
you get the best bang for your buck, because that's

(09:01):
what you're looking for right, not necessarily in profit, but
just pure entertainment. I now hit malties in the opening
rounds of major events this weekend. It's the PDC Darts
World Championships, and generally, although this is where the punt
comes in, the favorites, the big favorites for these matches

(09:23):
in the opening rounds of the World Darts Championships come in.
So if you do what I'm going to do and
bet a MAULTI ten bucks only not a great deal
across eighteen legs. The entertainment, if you will, will last
for four days in this case, and tell one of

(09:43):
your bets falls over, in which case it's gone. But
as it slowly leaks through the weekend, you can keep
up to date with the scores, with who's winning, who's
going where, and it expands the process. Therefore, I believe
you get more bang for buck and don't forget R
eighteen bet responsibly.

Speaker 7 (10:02):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix end of
the Chamber, we go rather un seasonal look at rugby
in the Chamber today, given the fact that it's only
a couple of weeks until Christmas.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
But a couple of bits of news dropped today dars
around rugby. One departure, one returnee. Should we start with
the departure please, sever Reese? Severa Reese is leaving your
beloved Crusaders at the end of the next Super Rugby season.
No doubt that annoying franchise of yours will win another
Super Rugby title, just to send them off in style.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Sever Reese.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
I mean, this isn't a great surprise, is it that
he's decided to take up an overseas opportunity.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
No, it's not, because essentially his time in the Black
Jersey was coming to an end. He knew that, everybody
knew that, and he signed off with a brace of tries.
It's a nice way to walk off into the sunset.
What does he twenty eight? So he's maybe lasted a
year longer than your average winger. You got to enjoy that,
don't you.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Absolutely?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Twenty seven, they say, isn't it once in twenty seven year?
Twenty eight year? Over the hill as far as an
All Black swinger is consumed. But he has been a
terrific rugby player for the Cruise and for the All Blacks.
You must remember twenty nineteen he and George Bridge Cayman,
didn't they And they were the hot hands leading into
that World Cup and took the wing spots. And look,
I think if you were an all Black swing, ye're

(11:19):
there for a Ye're there for a good time rather
than a long time, aren't you. And he's lasted pretty well.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, that's been proved right across the board as long
as we've been setting around doing sports broadcasting. Absolutely, and
I think Cevu's case he was I don't want to
go back and look at his past, but we kind
of have to. He's got into a bit of strife
legally way back when and left the Chiefs, moved down
to the Crusaders an attempt to start his career off

(11:43):
again and it worked really really well for him. So
congratulations on turning yourself around, sev Reeson, on the success
you've had. Look, he's not definitely going to Pepinon though,
because if they don't make it to the French top fourteen,
they're not going to sign him up, So there is
an asterisk around that.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
Indeed, the other part of this, though, Dars, is if
he does go, and yeah's let's look on the positive side.
If he does go, a three year contract at the
end of which he'll still only be what thirty one,
thirty two and he won't have played for the All
Blacks for three years. So Fiji beckons his country of birth.
What chance ever Reese in a fied jigg in rugby Jersey.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
I've gotting no problem with that. If it happens. You'd
suggest that the depth of Fiji in rugby with the
speeds is they probably don't need it. But with the
experience that that guy has got through his time at
Super rugby and the international level, that would be just
eaten alive by the rest of the team, wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
It They would indeed, So Seva Reese heading off in
one direction. Just to clarify, he will play Super rugby
for the Crusaders next year, So that's that is locked
in and what the chance to play?

Speaker 3 (12:49):
He wants one more title right before he goes on,
Just one more just far.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
No, it's not much so annoying, it's so annoying for
the rest of us. I'll tell you what. One of
the teams trying to stop the Crusaders from doing just
that is the Hurricanes, and they've gone back to the
future a bit. Former head coach and former All Blacks
assistant coach Jason Holland, one of the best rugby men around,
is returning to the Hurricanes as an assistant. This was

(13:15):
a bit of a surprise to me.

Speaker 3 (13:16):
Does question for you? What does this say about what's
happening at a coaching level in the All Blacks. It's
obviously not the rugby he's sick of, is it?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
No, absolutely not, And I think you and I have
spoken about this both on and off the air. If
you're look, if you'd look at the All Blacks coaching
gig head coaching, assistant coaching inside that coaching circle as
top of the pile, something has to be awry wrong
if you voluntarily leave that environment for me, and you're right,

(13:48):
he clearly hasn't got sick of rugby. And Jason Holland
has always been this way, you know, when the Hurricanes
had to buy head pop up to Parpston North and
watch an under twenty one game, or he'd.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Find a club game to watch.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
He loves the game of rugby and I'm sure just
as keen to be back on the grass. It does
not paint the All Blacks coaching environment in a very
positive light for me.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
Yeah, what do they say up north of England, trouble
at mill And when you look at Leo McDonald and
everything else that's come out, you can't turn around and say, nah, nah,
there's nothing wrong here. It's fine. He just got tired
of the job. It suggests that this review that they're
up to it better be thorough, it better be deep.
Even though they're in the middle of this four year cycle,

(14:31):
they've got time to write it. Now is the best time,
So don't waste this opportunity. I hope in his exit
interview they get plenty out of Jason Holland.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
I'm sure they would have. I think he's always been
an honest man, doesn't pull any punches, and but also
won't be vindictive in his feedback. He'll be conciliatory. He'll say, hey,
here's what happened to me. This didn't quite work. If
you do want some suggestions about how to move forward
in the all blacks environment, what about A B and C. Meantime,
I'll go back to the hurricanes, get a bit of
son on my back in the Capitol. Which beautiful day

(15:01):
here today, and I saw some photos actually of him
out on the grass, and I don't know It's hard
to tell from a photo, isn't it, But he looked
like a man encumbered and happy back at home in
many ways. It's the interesting part will be how he
and Clark Laidlaw go together. But knowing Clark Laidlaw a
little bit and knowing Jason Holland a little bit from
having spent some time around the Hurricanes here in Wellington,

(15:22):
I think it's.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
A great match.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I think they're both pure rugby men who will probably
get the best out of one another.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
And you'd suggest that what Jason's done at an international level,
he'll take that as we're talking about with Sevie Reese
and reapply what he's picked up there to the Hurricanes movement.
With of course Clark great history in sevens two. He's
now got seasons under his belt, so now they can combine.
I think it's a pretty frightening combination for the Hurricane side.

(15:50):
I'm pleased for you, Jay.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
Yeah, it's a win all round for the franchise. So yeah,
joining others, I mean Cory James and that coaching group,
Britt Evans who's been in the All Blacks as a
lineout coach this year, Jamie Mackintosh good old Whopper and
Brad Cooper. So yeah, it's a fairly potent coaching coaching
combination they've established at the Hurricanes with Jason Hollands coming
back into the mix. That'll do us in the chamber for.

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