On Sports Fix with Jason Pine and Elliott Smith for 16th October 2025, the NRL has announced that players and player agents who enter negotiations with R360 will be hit with a 10 year ban from the competition. Elliott caught up with Daily Telegraph rugby league journalist Michael Carryannis to discuss.
Elliott shares his thoughts on the 10 year ban facing NRL players who engage with R360.
And Piney and Elliott discuss whether the Silver Ferns can rise above the drama to defend the Constellation Cup, and the new governance board taking over the management of the America's Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
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Sports Fix podcast and association with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New
Zealand's most trusted home builder. I'm Jason Piden. It's great
to have Elliott Smith alongside on sports Fix today. Hello mate.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Great, he's piney. It's always busy in the sporting world
and great to slot into another edition of Sports Fix.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Lots to talk about over the next little while, including
a change to the America's cut rules. Also on a
talks and met fall as well. But in terms of
an interview today, Elliott, who are we hearing from.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
We're talking to the Sydney Daily Telegraph journalist Michael Carrianas
you'll be familiar with his work from NROL three sixty.
I was going to say R three sixty, but that's
what we're talking about, is R three sixty. The nrral
going to dish out ten year bands to any player
or any agent that signs a letter of Nintendo, puts
the name on the dotted line and goes to R
three sixty, So Michael's going to join us to discuss
(01:13):
with this threat is serious and what the Ossie feel
for it is at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Look forward to that the latest and sports news coming
up too, so let's get into it. In other news,
let's get going with some of the big sports stories
around today. No regrets from Silver Fern's Goalshop Grace Wiki
over her post match speech in support of coach Dan
Noling Todua during the South African Series finale last month,
where he made a plea for todo to return to
(01:37):
the team with the incumbent mentor stood down due to
unresolved issues in the high performance environment.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I think I've had to do it over. I would
save my words a bit more selectively, but reflecting, I
don't regret what I said and I'm confident to feel
strongly about my position.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Former Warriors playmaker Chad Townsend is perplexed by NRL threats
to ban players who defect to the R three sixty
union competition. The NRL's governing body are intending to slap
a ten year ban on players and agents who negosh, sign,
or enter into an agreement with the proposed league and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I RELI is not the government.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
They can't decide what players can.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They can't do.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
If you want to go and get another job for
someone who wants to pay double the money, you can't
ban them for ten years.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And Aukland FC football coach Steve Courcasis they're hoping to
have Francis Debrees available for their A League season opener
against Melbourne Victory on Saturday night. The left back played
for the All Whites and both of their international friendlies
in Europe over the past week. He played eighty minutes
I think in the first game and obviously eighty seven
this time round. So they showed me flying business cars
on the way back, so that might help as well.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Get in a bit of sleep. But yeah, we've got
to have that conversation within the leading of VIX. We've
got just the ticket. It's Sports X powered by News.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Talks IVY Another day. Are the twists in the three
sixty saga, you know, Rail basically saying if you go
and sign there, if your player or an agent, you
are banned for ten years. They don't even think about
coming back. If you do that, would it stand up
in court? Who knows? But a man that does know
a bit more about the saga is the Daily Telegraphs
one of the league reporters. You might have seen them
(03:09):
on NRL three sixty, not to be confused with R
three sixty. Michael Carryanus joins us now, Michael, thanks for your.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Time, yeah, pleasure.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Were you surprised by the nature of what Peter Velandi's
and the ARL have signaled here with ten year bands
for anyone willing to sign up or sign a litter
of intint.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, I think not necessarily because the NRL sort of
intimated they'd be heavy handed. I'm a little bit surprised
in the sense that players that are off contract would
face similar sanction as well. I could definitely understand that
if guys elected to break their contracts or even you know,
are enticed by their agents to break their contracts, I
(03:51):
totally get that. But the fact that it's also going
to be a blanket rule for anyone, regardless of your
contract status and any agent as well, for a ten
year ben, yeah, it is. It was a little bit
surprising in that respect.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Would a hold up in court, and does it even
matter whether it held held a whole hold up in court?
There's a shot across the bower of the agents and
the players.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I've got no idea that's out of my role and
it's going to hold up in core. There's some lawyers
that are missed in a couple of eye profile lawyers
in Sydney of intimated they didn't think it would hold
up in court. And whether in order it's just a
scare tactic from the NRL to try and deter players
and particularly agents who have a lot to lose in
this whole thing with a ten year ban. Whether or
not this is part of it or an element of that,
(04:35):
I'm not sure, but yeah, it's definitely going to be
potentially tested in the court of law at some point.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Sure it's a free market thing. If you're a player
off contract then you can sign with whoever you want
and would the NRL be able to say you can't
come back at that point?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, that's all will be tested, I guess by and
you know the clubs are supportive of it, but you know,
we know how quickly a club will turn in three
years time. But paying hass for example, just plucking a
name out of thin air, is hating R three sixty
or the competition dissolves and they want to try and
sign him, they'll be campaigning for the NRL to allow
him back the game. Right, So at the moment the
(05:10):
clubs are on board that obviously that will change if
they feel like they can get their hands on a
good player in a couple of years time.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Will it stop any players? I mean there might be
a thirty four year old out there right at the
end of the NRL career that's prepared to go and
we're the teen year band because it won't matter to them.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, Well, Rogers vas Chet's probably a prime run, right, Like,
he's obviously played rugby four player for the All Blacks
and then came back to the NRL and he's already
intimated to the Warriors that he wants to go to
after he sixty the competition gets off the ground. So
a ten year ban for Roger at this stage of
his career, you know it's irrelevant, right because you know,
why would he get out of the waves? Maybe an
(05:46):
extra twelve months or so. It's worth the risk considering
the money that's on the table, and if he does
want to continue his sporting career, he might even go
and play rugby elsewhere in the world, right, so yeah,
I think those sort of players, it's not going to
be the turn to them. But if you're a Ji
Gray or a Zach Lomax, who you know probably in
their peak, you're about to reach their peak of their
sporting careers, and you take that on a competition that
(06:09):
you don't know if it's got any longevity, that's where
you know that could hurt. Obviously, there's been some names
bandied of route, but Arthury sexty themselves been quite quiet
on this. We don't know who's signed or who is
in the gun to potentially sign. Do you see that
unfolding in the near future that some of these dominoes
will begin to fall, Well, they have to, don't they
They have to. At some point these are going to
(06:30):
become public announcements and players will have to inform their clubs,
particularly if they're looking at a breaking contracts in the NRL.
So I don't know what the role out planned for
Arfrey sixty Years in terms of make it formal announcements,
because as you said, they've been pretty quiet so far.
But yeah, you'd expect that to roll out of the
next couple of months.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
If you're paying hass though or one of the top
players in the game, Like you might have a big
payday coming, but you're essentially losing your livelihood. But they
do need a big fish, don't they to hook? You know,
the dominoes I supposed start to fall. If you get
a big fish, then you know others may follow.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I don't know what these guys would consider a big
fish though, because we're such a small market, right, big
fish in Australia and New Zealand, but comparatively for the
rest of the world. I don't know who pain Hauss is,
so I don't know. I'm not sure what they're you know,
what they're looking at. But if you're paying half and
you know you hadn't offered three million dollars a year
or that was somewhere of the court somewhere between two
and three million dollars a year, you know, if you
(07:27):
get you know, somehow you can wrangle that to get
it up front. Then is a ten year band when
you sit down and work out the numbers, what how
is that actually really going to hurt him financially?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I don't know, Like I don't know how it's going
to play out in the sense of the competition get
off the ground. Is this there's this ten year band
hold up in court? Which players are actually going to
make the funds. There's so many unknown still, but it's
definitely been a major talking point amongst the NRL clubs
in Australia.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
This is Sports Fix, your daily dose of sports news.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
How by news talks there.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Be I'm not sure either get to the point where
bends are handed out for RL players that go to
play an NRL three sixty. I think from Peter Velandi's
point of view, it's a shot across the bout saying
this is what you are doing, and that will live
in the back of the minds of not only the
players but also the player agents as they contemplate the
next steps. And for some players it may well be
(08:19):
worth it. If you're a thirty three to thirty four
year old player right at the back end of their
career and you're being offered an I watering some of
money to go play NRL three sixty for the Madrid
Marlins or the Tokyo Typhoons, whatever it might be, then
maybe you take it because you're not going back to
the NRL. But if you're a younger player who's got
again an I watering some of money on the table.
(08:40):
You may think twice you will have those words ringing
from Peter Velandi's at the back of your head. Now,
I think that's what he wants to do. He wants
to put him in the back of the head. He
doesn't want to be in the courtroom. He probably will
never be in the courtroom discussing the legalities of whether
this is the case or not. They don't worry about
whether or be held up in court, and in some
ways I admire that from the NRL. They come out,
they make a statement, they stand by it, even if
(09:03):
it may not be legally bulletproof. In some ways we
can look across the Tasman and go, that's the way
that we want our sport to be handled with a
clear conscience, with some real conviction about what they do,
and that don't mind if occasionally they get it wrong
or could be proved wrong in court, because it might
not get to that point at all.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax and.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
To the Chamber we go on the sports Fixed podcast.
Really interesting to hear the NRL R three sixty argument
there from Michael Carryannis let's talk a couple of other things, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
There's some netball on the court, which is a bit
of a change from all we've had to endure off
the court in the last little while. What sense do
you get out of the Silver Ferns in terms of
their ability as players to rise above all of this
and retain the Constellation Cup, because least I forget we
won it last year.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I hope they can. But it feels like this cloud
that's been hanging over them. I'm not sure whether it
has a silver lining or not, but whether as galvanizes
the team remains to be seen. We saw them in
South Africa, but it is really hard to gauge out
of that South African series what we learned about the
Silver Ferns and coming up against Australia is another level entirely.
Australia have also played South Africa in the last few
(10:16):
weeks and the story has just got even murkier and
murkier since that South African series ended. We learned obviously
Dame Noel Lean told it or it won't be back
for the rest of the year. We learned Gale Paratas
stood down as a selector and why so we have
at Grace Wiki do her Mihi at the end of
the South African series as well and then respond to
it last couple of days. So if they can put
(10:37):
all of it aside, maybe at Galvanizes the Silver Ferns,
but they feel like a fractured unit at the moment,
and you just hope that that doesn't come out on
court against the Australians and that they can instead turn
it into something that unites them and they can put
a performance out because as you mentioned, Poney, they're the
defending champions. They played so well last year and it
feels like the side show has been going on for
so many weeks now that there is, you know, the
(10:59):
small matter of nipple which has kind of been forgotten
about it the actual games on the court.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, I totally agree, and you look back at those
scores last year they won sixty four fifty and then
sixty three fifty two in New Zealand went across to
Australia for the return matches. I've forgotten this entirely, Eliott,
but in Perth they won sixty one forty three over there,
so a massive win before losing the fourth one, which
didn't matter by then. Interesting, I can't remember who made
(11:23):
the comments. It might have been Grace Wiki or one
of the other players, saying that you don't necessarily have
to be best buddies with your teammates. You can still
be a fully functioning unit. And I guess that goes
for workplaces as well, doesn't it. We don't love every
single person we work with, but as a team, we
put that stuff to one side and we try to
function as effectively as possible. Is that possible though, in
(11:46):
the white hot glare of elite sport.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I think it can be possible. Look, I'm sure we
were the stories. Probably we haven't heard about various sporting
teams where players didn't get on that have been swept
under the carpet or just never come to light. So
it may well be a semi common thing that there
is personalities that clash, and when you are in the
white hot chamber of professional sports and high performance sport,
it's natural that you were going to bumbygos. You are
(12:12):
going to create a bit of friction with those people.
Sometimes that can actually be healthy as well. Sometimes that
can actually spur you on a bit of internal competition,
even if you know you're both in the team, you're
both there. You want to perform better than the person
at the other end of the quarter, on the other
side of the team. So I don't think it's unnatural,
but you're right. This happens in every workplace. There are
(12:33):
people that you bump into daily that you know, you
probably never have a beer with outside work. But when
it comes to it, you've got to come together to
complete the task, you know, put the product on the table,
on the ear waves, whatever it might be. And that's
what the Silver fans have to do over these next
four games.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, and they may well like quite relish the opportunity
to forget about what's off the court and get on
the court. So tomorrow night first game is at John
Caine Arena in Melbourne. Then on Wednesday they are in
Sydney before back home for two test matches, one in
Hamilton on Sunday, October the twenty sixth, that's the Sunday
of Laybo weekends, and then Wednesday, the twenty ninth of
(13:09):
October in christ Church. Another little story that's popped up
today is around the America's Cup. A new era in
the America's Cup going to be ushered In next month,
an America's Cup Governance Board will take over the management
of the event. This is a big shift because up
until now it's always been the defender who's had the
responsibility for organizing the event. What's your initial reaction to this.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I think it's the America's Cup moving into the modern
age and it was probably about time that something like
this needed to happen. Because, yes, it's a good storyline
after each America's Cup that we go through the process
of what kind of boats will be sailed, when the
next one will be, how long until whereabouts it will
be held. But that is not how you run professional
sport and the year twenty twenty five. You've got to
(13:55):
have a plan. You've got to be looking more towards
the future to know where you're going to begin five
years time, ten years time. You can't just be backing
it up on the run, which it feels like the
America's Cup has been doing for the entirety of its exists.
In some ways, that's charming and has said It's given
us plenty of storylines through the years, but it can't
fulfill you know, obligations commercially. How do you go on
(14:17):
and pitch for sponsorship when you go. Actually, we don't
know when the next America's Cup after this one will be.
We're not sure what kind of boats will be in
place if you're going to pitch commercially to sponsors. We're
not sure how many you know people we can have,
where we can have you know, people you know traveling
to watch the regatta is whatever it might be. So
it feels like it's moved into the modern age. And yes,
(14:37):
there's been a you know, somewhat of a discrepancy party
through the years that you know that the defender makes
all the rules, Well, that's not an even playing field.
And it feels like maybe the America's Cup is just
finally moving into the modern age. I mean, yes, what
do you think about party? I think it's it's about
time that they've changed the way they operate here. And
if it's an equal stake across the board, that may
(14:59):
actually be the thing that keeps the America's Cup coming
along more so than sort of heading the rocks like
it maybe has been over the last few years.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I absolutely and totally agree. Only I think you know,
in which other sport does one of the participants carry
so much in terms of the impact, the responsibility, but
also the advantage of being able to pick all these things.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
The Brisbane Broncos when the NRA on that is side. Well, actually,
the next thing our row is going to be held
in the latter end of twenty twenty seven. It's all
going to be played in Queensland and you're welcome to come,
but we're going to do ten person teams. That's essentially
we were out with the America's Cup exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It seems ridiculous even saying it, doesn't it. So yeah,
whether they've been dragged, kicking and screaming into the modern
day or whether they've actually done some internal examination and
thought to themselves, hey, this just doesn't match up. I
think it's the right decision like you and I see.
It also means the America's Cup is likely to be
contested every two years. It's I guess been every four yearly,
hasn't it. But even that's been up for debate, hasn't it.
(15:56):
Sometimes it's been three, sometimes it's been four. So yeah,
some consistency and some yeah, some structure perhaps wrapped around
the America's Cup from here on, and we will follow
progress with great interest. That is us in the chamber today.
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Hello there, and welcome into a fresh episode of the
Sports Fix podcast and association with GJ. Gardner Holmes, New
Zealand's most trusted home builder. I'm Jason Piden. It's great
to have Elliott Smith alongside on sports Fix today. Hello mate.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Great, he's piney. It's always busy in the sporting world
and great to slot into another edition of Sports Fix.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Lots to talk about over the next little while, including
a change to the America's cut rules. Also on a
talks and met fall as well. But in terms of
an interview today, Elliott, who are we hearing from.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
We're talking to the Sydney Daily Telegraph journalist Michael Carrianas
you'll be familiar with his work from NROL three sixty.
I was going to say R three sixty, but that's
what we're talking about, is R three sixty. The nrral
going to dish out ten year bands to any player
or any agent that signs a letter of Nintendo, puts
the name on the dotted line and goes to R
three sixty, So Michael's going to join us to discuss
(01:13):
with this threat is serious and what the Ossie feel
for it is at the moment.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Look forward to that the latest and sports news coming
up too, so let's get into it. In other news,
let's get going with some of the big sports stories
around today. No regrets from Silver Fern's Goalshop Grace Wiki
over her post match speech in support of coach Dan
Noling Todua during the South African Series finale last month,
where he made a plea for todo to return to
(01:37):
the team with the incumbent mentor stood down due to
unresolved issues in the high performance environment.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
I think I've had to do it over. I would
save my words a bit more selectively, but reflecting, I
don't regret what I said and I'm confident to feel
strongly about my position.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Former Warriors playmaker Chad Townsend is perplexed by NRL threats
to ban players who defect to the R three sixty
union competition. The NRL's governing body are intending to slap
a ten year ban on players and agents who negosh, sign,
or enter into an agreement with the proposed league and.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
I RELI is not the government.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
They can't decide what players can.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
They can't do.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
If you want to go and get another job for
someone who wants to pay double the money, you can't
ban them for ten years.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And Aukland FC football coach Steve Courcasis they're hoping to
have Francis Debrees available for their A League season opener
against Melbourne Victory on Saturday night. The left back played
for the All Whites and both of their international friendlies
in Europe over the past week. He played eighty minutes
I think in the first game and obviously eighty seven
this time round. So they showed me flying business cars
on the way back, so that might help as well.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Get in a bit of sleep. But yeah, we've got
to have that conversation within the leading of VIX. We've
got just the ticket. It's Sports X powered by News.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Talks IVY Another day. Are the twists in the three
sixty saga, you know, Rail basically saying if you go
and sign there, if your player or an agent, you
are banned for ten years. They don't even think about
coming back. If you do that, would it stand up
in court? Who knows? But a man that does know
a bit more about the saga is the Daily Telegraphs
one of the league reporters. You might have seen them
(03:09):
on NRL three sixty, not to be confused with R
three sixty. Michael Carryanus joins us now, Michael, thanks for your.
Speaker 5 (03:16):
Time, yeah, pleasure.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Were you surprised by the nature of what Peter Velandi's
and the ARL have signaled here with ten year bands
for anyone willing to sign up or sign a litter
of intint.
Speaker 5 (03:29):
Well, I think not necessarily because the NRL sort of
intimated they'd be heavy handed. I'm a little bit surprised
in the sense that players that are off contract would
face similar sanction as well. I could definitely understand that
if guys elected to break their contracts or even you know,
are enticed by their agents to break their contracts, I
(03:51):
totally get that. But the fact that it's also going
to be a blanket rule for anyone, regardless of your
contract status and any agent as well, for a ten
year ben, yeah, it is. It was a little bit
surprising in that respect.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Would a hold up in court, and does it even
matter whether it held held a whole hold up in court?
There's a shot across the bower of the agents and
the players.
Speaker 5 (04:13):
I've got no idea that's out of my role and
it's going to hold up in core. There's some lawyers
that are missed in a couple of eye profile lawyers
in Sydney of intimated they didn't think it would hold
up in court. And whether in order it's just a
scare tactic from the NRL to try and deter players
and particularly agents who have a lot to lose in
this whole thing with a ten year ban. Whether or
not this is part of it or an element of that,
(04:35):
I'm not sure, but yeah, it's definitely going to be
potentially tested in the court of law at some point.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Sure it's a free market thing. If you're a player
off contract then you can sign with whoever you want
and would the NRL be able to say you can't
come back at that point?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Yeah, that's all will be tested, I guess by and
you know the clubs are supportive of it, but you know,
we know how quickly a club will turn in three
years time. But paying hass for example, just plucking a
name out of thin air, is hating R three sixty
or the competition dissolves and they want to try and
sign him, they'll be campaigning for the NRL to allow
him back the game. Right, So at the moment the
(05:10):
clubs are on board that obviously that will change if
they feel like they can get their hands on a
good player in a couple of years time.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Will it stop any players? I mean there might be
a thirty four year old out there right at the
end of the NRL career that's prepared to go and
we're the teen year band because it won't matter to them.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
Yeah, Well, Rogers vas Chet's probably a prime run, right, Like,
he's obviously played rugby four player for the All Blacks
and then came back to the NRL and he's already
intimated to the Warriors that he wants to go to
after he sixty the competition gets off the ground. So
a ten year ban for Roger at this stage of
his career, you know it's irrelevant, right because you know,
why would he get out of the waves? Maybe an
(05:46):
extra twelve months or so. It's worth the risk considering
the money that's on the table, and if he does
want to continue his sporting career, he might even go
and play rugby elsewhere in the world, right, so yeah,
I think those sort of players, it's not going to
be the turn to them. But if you're a Ji
Gray or a Zach Lomax, who you know probably in
their peak, you're about to reach their peak of their
sporting careers, and you take that on a competition that
(06:09):
you don't know if it's got any longevity, that's where
you know that could hurt. Obviously, there's been some names
bandied of route, but Arthury sexty themselves been quite quiet
on this. We don't know who's signed or who is
in the gun to potentially sign. Do you see that
unfolding in the near future that some of these dominoes
will begin to fall, Well, they have to, don't they
They have to. At some point these are going to
(06:30):
become public announcements and players will have to inform their clubs,
particularly if they're looking at a breaking contracts in the NRL.
So I don't know what the role out planned for
Arfrey sixty Years in terms of make it formal announcements,
because as you said, they've been pretty quiet so far.
But yeah, you'd expect that to roll out of the
next couple of months.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
If you're paying hass though or one of the top
players in the game, Like you might have a big
payday coming, but you're essentially losing your livelihood. But they
do need a big fish, don't they to hook? You know,
the dominoes I supposed start to fall. If you get
a big fish, then you know others may follow.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I don't know what these guys would consider a big
fish though, because we're such a small market, right, big
fish in Australia and New Zealand, but comparatively for the
rest of the world. I don't know who pain Hauss is,
so I don't know. I'm not sure what they're you know,
what they're looking at. But if you're paying half and
you know you hadn't offered three million dollars a year
or that was somewhere of the court somewhere between two
and three million dollars a year, you know, if you
(07:27):
get you know, somehow you can wrangle that to get
it up front. Then is a ten year band when
you sit down and work out the numbers, what how
is that actually really going to hurt him financially?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
I don't know, Like I don't know how it's going
to play out in the sense of the competition get
off the ground. Is this there's this ten year band
hold up in court? Which players are actually going to
make the funds. There's so many unknown still, but it's
definitely been a major talking point amongst the NRL clubs
in Australia.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
This is Sports Fix, your daily dose of sports news.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
How by news talks there.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Be I'm not sure either get to the point where
bends are handed out for RL players that go to
play an NRL three sixty. I think from Peter Velandi's
point of view, it's a shot across the bout saying
this is what you are doing, and that will live
in the back of the minds of not only the
players but also the player agents as they contemplate the
next steps. And for some players it may well be
(08:19):
worth it. If you're a thirty three to thirty four
year old player right at the back end of their
career and you're being offered an I watering some of
money to go play NRL three sixty for the Madrid
Marlins or the Tokyo Typhoons, whatever it might be, then
maybe you take it because you're not going back to
the NRL. But if you're a younger player who's got
again an I watering some of money on the table.
(08:40):
You may think twice you will have those words ringing
from Peter Velandi's at the back of your head. Now,
I think that's what he wants to do. He wants
to put him in the back of the head. He
doesn't want to be in the courtroom. He probably will
never be in the courtroom discussing the legalities of whether
this is the case or not. They don't worry about
whether or be held up in court, and in some
ways I admire that from the NRL. They come out,
they make a statement, they stand by it, even if
(09:03):
it may not be legally bulletproof. In some ways we
can look across the Tasman and go, that's the way
that we want our sport to be handled with a
clear conscience, with some real conviction about what they do,
and that don't mind if occasionally they get it wrong
or could be proved wrong in court, because it might
not get to that point at all.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfax and.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
To the Chamber we go on the sports Fixed podcast.
Really interesting to hear the NRL R three sixty argument
there from Michael Carryannis let's talk a couple of other things, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Tomorrow night.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
There's some netball on the court, which is a bit
of a change from all we've had to endure off
the court in the last little while. What sense do
you get out of the Silver Ferns in terms of
their ability as players to rise above all of this
and retain the Constellation Cup, because least I forget we
won it last year.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
I hope they can. But it feels like this cloud
that's been hanging over them. I'm not sure whether it
has a silver lining or not, but whether as galvanizes
the team remains to be seen. We saw them in
South Africa, but it is really hard to gauge out
of that South African series what we learned about the
Silver Ferns and coming up against Australia is another level entirely.
Australia have also played South Africa in the last few
(10:16):
weeks and the story has just got even murkier and
murkier since that South African series ended. We learned obviously
Dame Noel Lean told it or it won't be back
for the rest of the year. We learned Gale Paratas
stood down as a selector and why so we have
at Grace Wiki do her Mihi at the end of
the South African series as well and then respond to
it last couple of days. So if they can put
(10:37):
all of it aside, maybe at Galvanizes the Silver Ferns,
but they feel like a fractured unit at the moment,
and you just hope that that doesn't come out on
court against the Australians and that they can instead turn
it into something that unites them and they can put
a performance out because as you mentioned, Poney, they're the
defending champions. They played so well last year and it
feels like the side show has been going on for
so many weeks now that there is, you know, the
(10:59):
small matter of nipple which has kind of been forgotten
about it the actual games on the court.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, I totally agree, and you look back at those
scores last year they won sixty four fifty and then
sixty three fifty two in New Zealand went across to
Australia for the return matches. I've forgotten this entirely, Eliott,
but in Perth they won sixty one forty three over there,
so a massive win before losing the fourth one, which
didn't matter by then. Interesting, I can't remember who made
(11:23):
the comments. It might have been Grace Wiki or one
of the other players, saying that you don't necessarily have
to be best buddies with your teammates. You can still
be a fully functioning unit. And I guess that goes
for workplaces as well, doesn't it. We don't love every
single person we work with, but as a team, we
put that stuff to one side and we try to
function as effectively as possible. Is that possible though, in
(11:46):
the white hot glare of elite sport.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I think it can be possible. Look, I'm sure we
were the stories. Probably we haven't heard about various sporting
teams where players didn't get on that have been swept
under the carpet or just never come to light. So
it may well be a semi common thing that there
is personalities that clash, and when you are in the
white hot chamber of professional sports and high performance sport,
it's natural that you were going to bumbygos. You are
(12:12):
going to create a bit of friction with those people.
Sometimes that can actually be healthy as well. Sometimes that
can actually spur you on a bit of internal competition,
even if you know you're both in the team, you're
both there. You want to perform better than the person
at the other end of the quarter, on the other
side of the team. So I don't think it's unnatural,
but you're right. This happens in every workplace. There are
(12:33):
people that you bump into daily that you know, you
probably never have a beer with outside work. But when
it comes to it, you've got to come together to
complete the task, you know, put the product on the table,
on the ear waves, whatever it might be. And that's
what the Silver fans have to do over these next
four games.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, and they may well like quite relish the opportunity
to forget about what's off the court and get on
the court. So tomorrow night first game is at John
Caine Arena in Melbourne. Then on Wednesday they are in
Sydney before back home for two test matches, one in
Hamilton on Sunday, October the twenty sixth, that's the Sunday
of Laybo weekends, and then Wednesday, the twenty ninth of
(13:09):
October in christ Church. Another little story that's popped up
today is around the America's Cup. A new era in
the America's Cup going to be ushered In next month,
an America's Cup Governance Board will take over the management
of the event. This is a big shift because up
until now it's always been the defender who's had the
responsibility for organizing the event. What's your initial reaction to this.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
I think it's the America's Cup moving into the modern
age and it was probably about time that something like
this needed to happen. Because, yes, it's a good storyline
after each America's Cup that we go through the process
of what kind of boats will be sailed, when the
next one will be, how long until whereabouts it will
be held. But that is not how you run professional
sport and the year twenty twenty five. You've got to
(13:55):
have a plan. You've got to be looking more towards
the future to know where you're going to begin five
years time, ten years time. You can't just be backing
it up on the run, which it feels like the
America's Cup has been doing for the entirety of its exists.
In some ways, that's charming and has said It's given
us plenty of storylines through the years, but it can't
fulfill you know, obligations commercially. How do you go on
(14:17):
and pitch for sponsorship when you go. Actually, we don't
know when the next America's Cup after this one will be.
We're not sure what kind of boats will be in
place if you're going to pitch commercially to sponsors. We're
not sure how many you know people we can have,
where we can have you know, people you know traveling
to watch the regatta is whatever it might be. So
it feels like it's moved into the modern age. And yes,
(14:37):
there's been a you know, somewhat of a discrepancy party
through the years that you know that the defender makes
all the rules, Well, that's not an even playing field.
And it feels like maybe the America's Cup is just
finally moving into the modern age. I mean, yes, what
do you think about party? I think it's it's about
time that they've changed the way they operate here. And
if it's an equal stake across the board, that may
(14:59):
actually be the thing that keeps the America's Cup coming
along more so than sort of heading the rocks like
it maybe has been over the last few years.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I absolutely and totally agree. Only I think you know,
in which other sport does one of the participants carry
so much in terms of the impact, the responsibility, but
also the advantage of being able to pick all these things.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
The Brisbane Broncos when the NRA on that is side. Well, actually,
the next thing our row is going to be held
in the latter end of twenty twenty seven. It's all
going to be played in Queensland and you're welcome to come,
but we're going to do ten person teams. That's essentially
we were out with the America's Cup exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:35):
It seems ridiculous even saying it, doesn't it. So yeah,
whether they've been dragged, kicking and screaming into the modern
day or whether they've actually done some internal examination and
thought to themselves, hey, this just doesn't match up. I
think it's the right decision like you and I see.
It also means the America's Cup is likely to be
contested every two years. It's I guess been every four yearly,
hasn't it. But even that's been up for debate, hasn't it.
(15:56):
Sometimes it's been three, sometimes it's been four. So yeah,
some consistency and some yeah, some structure perhaps wrapped around
the America's Cup from here on, and we will follow
progress with great interest. That is us in the chamber today.
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