On Sports Fix with Elliott Smith for 23rd October 2025, today it was announced that after the end of year northern tour All Blacks assistant coach Jason Holland would be stepping away and not seeking a contract renewal through the end of 2027.Elliott caught up with the NZ Herald rugby analyst who was close to the story, Gregor Paul, to discuss.
Elliott shares his thoughts on the outside noise hurting the Silver Ferns following last night's loss.
And Elliott and NZME head of sport Winston Aldworth discuss the All Blacks coaching shakeup, the coaching saga hurting the Silver Ferns on the court and Auckland FC's chances of going all the way this year in the A-League.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome to Sportsfix for the twenty third of October, fourteen
years since Field Blacks won the World Cup Final at
Eden Parkins, France eight seven. Incidentally, I'm Elliot Smith. Coming
up on today's episode with GJ. Gardener Holmes, New Zealand's
most trusted home builder, we talk the departure impending of
for Jason Holland, the assistant coach of the All Blacks
(00:41):
Brigapool New Zealand heralds rugby columnists joined us to talk
about how it unfolded and where to next for the
All Blacks. New Zealand Herald's head of sport Whenston Alworth
joins us as well on the panel to dissect the
latest sporting issues and as usual we give you all
the latest that you need to know around the news
of the day.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Change in the All Blacks Worth Jason Holland announcing hill
stand down at the end of the year from his
role as the backs coach and strike plays coach. This
was Scott Robertson's reaction when he fronted media up to
here what.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
He said is there from's hard.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Decision and respected another single quarter collapses seeing New Zealand
crumble to a sixty eight fifty one defeat to Austrandia
in the second constellation called Netball Test in Sydney, New
Zealand with twenty four eleven and the fourth quarter of
the first Test lost, which was also a seventeen goal margin.
Interim coach of at McCausland Jury has reflected on the
final quarter.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
They made some smart changes and the ball really started
to move at that point and we didn't adapt and
adjust as quickly as we needed to. In the end,
we were chasing rather than dictating and that's a really
tough space.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
To be in.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Recently retired Central District Store what Greg Hay has gone
from playing to coaching the Stags cricket side and the
Plunket Shield and Ford Trophy competitions. The forty one year
old says he would have other spent the otherwise spent
the next two months serving.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Challenges mate.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The coach, but obviously the benefits or having relationships and
that probably helps compared.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
To a something came up from the outside.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And didn't know anyone at all.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
And Liverpool's rebounded from a miserable run to it I'm
track Frankfurt five to one and Football's Champions League. It
was also Chelsea's margin over Dutch club i AX, and
Chelsea manager in Da Mariska pleased to play plenty of
reserves and save his team's legs for another Premier League
match this weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Again, management was important in this moment. We need to
protect player, we need to rotate.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So very happy with the result, but also because we
have the chance to rotate players.
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Speaker 3 (02:50):
Evy change in the All Blacks environments with assistant coach
Jason Holland, who's been looking after the backs and there
strike plays to stand down from his role at the
end of the year tour. He won't seek a contract
renewal for twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. One
man who's been very close to the story is Gregor
Paul and he joins us now on sports Sex RIGA.
(03:11):
Thanks for your time, my pleasure, Earliot. Well, we're both
around the team a fear bits. Did this come as
a surprise to you.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
The timing, yes, a wee bit, The actual decision not
so much.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
No.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I think it's fairly obvious that by results, by performance
or inconsistency of performance, I should say, for lack of
attacking cohesion and credibility that the All Blacks have put
together in the last two years that are not quite right.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know, whether that's.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
A coaching issue, a player issue, game plan issue, whatever
it might be, we all know that there's a little
bit of disunity to some extent, or an inability for
that team to play the way that the some of
their talented parts would suggest that they could. The coaching
structure looks a wee bit convoluted to me. I don't
(04:08):
know if it's got too many people, but the division
of labor has struck me as a bit odd that
you have.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Scott Hansen operating as sort of both.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Attack and defense and then he passes on his plan
for the week to an attack coach and a defense coach,
and Jason Holland is responsible for strike plays and something else.
And I say that with a bit of a facecious
tone nearly it because I think That's kind of the
problem is it's been a bit messy. It's been a
bit difficult to ascertain who does what. And I think
(04:40):
it's been apparent for a week while that they would
need to get to the point of making some change,
either forced or voluntary or otherwise.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And here we go, they've made that change.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, for's voluntary or otherwise. What's your scenes? Is this
a mutual decision or was he jump before? Do you
jump before he pushed?
Speaker 6 (04:59):
I think it was about as mutual as these things
can be. Yeah, we're talking high performance environments here, where
you know everyone's going to spin a narrative to suit there,
to suit their agenda. The one that came out on
the press release would suggest, you know, it's all happy,
happy families. He decided he didn't want to stay on
beyond his existing contract, which is about to expire, and
(05:22):
I think there's an element of.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Truth to that.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
I think he he was on a two year deal.
He rationalized at some point this year, as I understand it,
that he wasn't enjoying it as much, he wasn't making
the impact that he felt he could, and that he
wasn't necessarily convinced that seeking an extension on that contract
was something he wanted to do, so he aired that,
(05:47):
I believe, and there wasn't necessarily an awful lot of
energy expressed or expended in trying to dissuade him of
that notion. I think he said, I'm not sure I
want to stay on, and the All Blacks kind of
went okay, and they reached a point where they were
both happy for him to go into the year. And
(06:10):
you know, the All Blacks are quite happy with that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So it's as much as these things can be.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
It is what you would call an amicable agreement, and
it leaves the door open now for Scott Robertson head coach,
to spend a bit of time once this Grand Slam
Tour is over to kind of reconfigure and work out,
you know, what a replacement strategy might look like, if
there is one, and how he might want to reconfigure
his coaching setup.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, there's this opportunity to restructure the coaching team. That
doesn't sound like anyone else would potentially be leaving, but
they may bring someone else in.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Look, I mean a wee bit will depend on results, Elliott.
I think over the next four weeks, because you. Sometimes
you don't get the luxury of being the master of
your own fate when you're the Old Blacks coach, as
Ian Foster discovered a couple of years back. Sometimes results
reach a point where your employer intervenes and says, you know,
you might not want to make change, but we feel
(07:06):
that you now have to.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So I think we're in an intriguing.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Spot here because the Old Blacks results and performances to
date under Robertson have been a wee bit underwhelming. They're
not discernibly better than they were under Ian Foster the
way everyone imagined they would be if the Old Blecks
come home. And you know, I don't think that these
things are prescribed behind the scenes the way that we
think that they are. But I think anyone would you know,
(07:32):
with a reasonable assessment of what the Old Blacks ambition
and what New Zealand Rugby's ambition is for the Old
Blacks if they come home, you know, having lost to
Ireland and England, say two two entirely conceivable outcomes, by
the way, two good teams capable.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Of being the Old Blacks.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I will get accused of ridiculous bias if I say that,
But thank you for pointing out that we are indeed wells,
great entertainers and a superb team on the rise.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
But I think if we get to that point, that'll
be a fourth defeat for the Old Lecks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And I'm not preempting this. I'm just saying we.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
All know that there's not a lot of anyway here
for results to go against this team to the point where,
you know, another year with four defeats on the board
will challenge New Zealand Rugby to make some big decisions about,
you know, what they want to do with their all
black coaching group and its entirety. You know, maybe they
want to make wholesale changes at that point, and maybe
(08:28):
they're quite happy to carry on. It may be that
they put some pressure on Razor to to reconfigure a
few more assistants.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We'll have to wait and see, but.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Clearly there is pressure building as a result of outcomes.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
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Speaker 3 (08:48):
The sort of thanst to Australia should be a wake
up call. Maybe not a huge wake up call, but
it should be one for netball in New Zealand that
things are going south pretty quickly. If you wanted to
mount the argument that this team wasn't affected by what's
been going on on the outside, then that sixty minutes
of netball basically told you that, yes, and they were.
(09:09):
The team looked fatigued, they look short on energy, they
look short on confidence, and the heads went down in
the final quarter as things began to unravel. This is
a team that was two goals behind at halftime, they
were in the contest, hadn't been playing the best netball,
especially in that first quarter, but the second quarter they
probably played the best quarter of the netball series so far.
But then it unraveled, and that to me speaks like
(09:31):
a team that isn't speaking and singing from the same
hymn sheet, and that is what they need to sort out.
They play again in Hamilton on Sunday and Netball New
Zealand and the players need to get around the table
and figure out a way to go forward. Dave Nold
then told her at this stage won't be there for
the rest of the year. Who knows beyond that, but
it seems to me at the moment things are untenable.
(09:53):
If at mccaus and Jerry seems to be doing her
best as head coach. The players though, seemed to be
in a word of their own and I don't know
how much longer that can go on and four nil
a lost to Australia seems very likely at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
The Chamber is now in session on sports facts.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Joining us now in the chamber is Winston or Worth,
Head of Sport at zied me. Winston, thanks for jumping
into the chamber. Busy old day of sport. Dame Nolan
told her inborn must be fist pumping going. We've been
bumped off the Herald Sport page because he's change in
the All Blacks environment and Jason Holland is waving bye
bye at the end of the year. What was your
reaction to that?
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yeah, Elliott, you're dead right. Dame Knowles and Neckborne, New
Zealand would have been as pleased as as all the
news editors around the country. Where to see to see
coaching drums within the All Blacks setup, Jason Holland stepping,
stepping back, stepping away, not renewing the contract, the framing
from within within the Kremlin from inn zed Rugby and
(10:52):
from from Scott Robertson earlier today. Is that is that
he's just choosing to move on and you know you
can't help but read between the lines on this. He's
he's halfway through his rain razor and now he's he's
two coaches down out of the four assistants he started with.
Gregor Paul had a good line that will be publishing
(11:13):
a bit later on, just to give you a little
peek into that one. He says, it's it could be
accidental to or unfortunate to lose one coach, but losing
two is a negligent. So yeah, I don't know, mate,
losing two out of the four that you start with,
you start with them for a reason. Surely those are
the guys you want to go through to the whole
campaign with, right.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Well, that's right similar to Ian Fotter three started with
those two that he got rid of as well, John
Plumtree departing. Of course bred More leaving as well. So
there's a lot of similarities that people probably weren't expecting too.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
This is the point in the storyline where Joe Schmidt
comes in.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Is it could be out of Australia back or do
you try and throw as many rand as you possibly
can at Tony Brown. There's not many significant answers. I
didn't think that are jumping out of the page at
the moment.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
No, it's a kind of situation that probably rather be
in in two years time, post the next World Cup,
Tony Brown and Joe Schmidt coming in together, maybe that's
something we see in eighteen months. But yeah, it was.
It was a shock and no matter what they say too,
the timing of it is pretty unusual, unfortunate. You know,
(12:22):
they fly out tomorrow on any of your tour, so
you're starting your tour under a shadow. Similar thing happened
when Lao McDonald left last year as well. I think
they were about to head over to to South Africa.
I'm just to keep things tidy. If it were me,
if I was running the narrative, I'd probably rather tie
that one off at the end of the tour when
everyone's got there, you know, starting to think about heading
(12:43):
away for their holidays. So yeah, interesting one.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Interesting coaching wise with the Silver Ferns as well. They're
tune all down in the series and now the questions
continue about Dame no Lean told her if they had won,
maybe those questions just quiet and a little bit but
the fires start flaming a little bit more given the
results aren't coming, while they've got an interim coaching set
up in there as well.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Yeah, it's just the gift that keeps I'm giving. And
once the All Blacks are offshore and they're flying out
for you know, they'll be off the radar for a
good day or so, so we can all swing back
into talking about Dame Knowles. It seems to be strangely
handled at both ends. And you know, now you've even
got Crown ministers are pining on it, although also are
(13:26):
pining on it and saying there's nothing you can do
about it, which is fair enough for Mark Mitchell. Yeah.
It's one of the things about for the Silver Ferns
is success and failure is really binary. I think you're
either beating the Diamonds or you're losing to them. And
and you know that's not to belittle the efforts against
(13:48):
South Africa earlier or England and World Cup victories and
so on, but it is this very hard measuring stick
that they're up against. That must be what it feels
like to be a Wallaby supporter, I guess, and at
the moment they're on the wrong end of that equation
on top of all this other stuff, So who knows
when two more went over here? And maybe the whole
narrative flips.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And yeah, Dame Noline who And finally AUCKLANDFC. You're a
big Auckland def C guy. I'm not sure if you're
a paid up member of the port. But they're back
at home for the first time in twenty twenty five
twenty six this week, Ken, what chance do you give
them of going all the way this year?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
They give themselves every chance and I think, if any
I do know, it's early days and they started with
a nile drawtch they certainly didn't do last year. I
think they went six wins in a row at six.
In fact, they went six six games before they conceded.
So but I think they're a better squad this year
because of the big English boy up front. The thing
(14:46):
they missed last year, oddly given that they finished top
of the league and they were beaten, but you could
almost say a little unlucky not to make the final.
The thing they missed was a big target man up front,
and now they got one of them, it looks a
more complete unit and so they come in the big
loss obviously is Alex Pawson. But the really interesting thing
(15:06):
around them will be if the magic, if that magic
vibe out at Mount Smart Go Media, whatever it continues.
It was so nice out there. I was out there
in the port with my kids and also in a
couple of lounges. I got out there plenty, and I
loved it. It was a wonderful way, you know, for
Auckland is whose idea of enjoying a football event, be
(15:30):
at league, foot league soccer or rugby for so long
has been sitting in miserable wintry conditions late at night,
worth really crappy public transport and all the problems that
go with it. To to be out there in the
sun when and it really did help the team were
winning and playing pretty good football. But so that'll be
interesting thing if the vibe is there with the crowd.
(15:50):
Few rainy days could be their biggest problem. A couple
of rainy days and a couple of nul one defeats
at home that they didn't expect, and maybe it won't
feel quite as vibe as it did last year. But
I got my tie up for it. I think they'll
win tomorrow and yeah.
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Speaker 3 (00:20):
Welcome to Sportsfix for the twenty third of October, fourteen
years since Field Blacks won the World Cup Final at
Eden Parkins, France eight seven. Incidentally, I'm Elliot Smith. Coming
up on today's episode with GJ. Gardener Holmes, New Zealand's
most trusted home builder, we talk the departure impending of
for Jason Holland, the assistant coach of the All Blacks
(00:41):
Brigapool New Zealand heralds rugby columnists joined us to talk
about how it unfolded and where to next for the
All Blacks. New Zealand Herald's head of sport Whenston Alworth
joins us as well on the panel to dissect the
latest sporting issues and as usual we give you all
the latest that you need to know around the news
of the day.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Change in the All Blacks Worth Jason Holland announcing hill
stand down at the end of the year from his
role as the backs coach and strike plays coach. This
was Scott Robertson's reaction when he fronted media up to
here what.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
He said is there from's hard.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Decision and respected another single quarter collapses seeing New Zealand
crumble to a sixty eight fifty one defeat to Austrandia
in the second constellation called Netball Test in Sydney, New
Zealand with twenty four eleven and the fourth quarter of
the first Test lost, which was also a seventeen goal margin.
Interim coach of at McCausland Jury has reflected on the
final quarter.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
They made some smart changes and the ball really started
to move at that point and we didn't adapt and
adjust as quickly as we needed to. In the end,
we were chasing rather than dictating and that's a really
tough space.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
To be in.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Recently retired Central District Store what Greg Hay has gone
from playing to coaching the Stags cricket side and the
Plunket Shield and Ford Trophy competitions. The forty one year
old says he would have other spent the otherwise spent
the next two months serving.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Challenges mate.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
The coach, but obviously the benefits or having relationships and
that probably helps compared.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
To a something came up from the outside.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
And didn't know anyone at all.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
And Liverpool's rebounded from a miserable run to it I'm
track Frankfurt five to one and Football's Champions League. It
was also Chelsea's margin over Dutch club i AX, and
Chelsea manager in Da Mariska pleased to play plenty of
reserves and save his team's legs for another Premier League
match this weekend.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Again, management was important in this moment. We need to
protect player, we need to rotate.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
So very happy with the result, but also because we
have the chance to rotate players.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That was Sport Today leading a vex. We've got just
the ticket. It's Sportsfix powered by news Talks.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Evy change in the All Blacks environments with assistant coach
Jason Holland, who's been looking after the backs and there
strike plays to stand down from his role at the
end of the year tour. He won't seek a contract
renewal for twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven. One
man who's been very close to the story is Gregor
Paul and he joins us now on sports Sex RIGA.
(03:11):
Thanks for your time, my pleasure, Earliot. Well, we're both
around the team a fear bits. Did this come as
a surprise to you.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
The timing, yes, a wee bit, The actual decision not
so much.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
No.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
I think it's fairly obvious that by results, by performance
or inconsistency of performance, I should say, for lack of
attacking cohesion and credibility that the All Blacks have put
together in the last two years that are not quite right.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
You know, whether that's.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
A coaching issue, a player issue, game plan issue, whatever
it might be, we all know that there's a little
bit of disunity to some extent, or an inability for
that team to play the way that the some of
their talented parts would suggest that they could. The coaching
structure looks a wee bit convoluted to me. I don't
(04:08):
know if it's got too many people, but the division
of labor has struck me as a bit odd that
you have.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
Scott Hansen operating as sort of both.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Attack and defense and then he passes on his plan
for the week to an attack coach and a defense coach,
and Jason Holland is responsible for strike plays and something else.
And I say that with a bit of a facecious
tone nearly it because I think That's kind of the
problem is it's been a bit messy. It's been a
bit difficult to ascertain who does what. And I think
(04:40):
it's been apparent for a week while that they would
need to get to the point of making some change,
either forced or voluntary or otherwise.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
And here we go, they've made that change.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Well, for's voluntary or otherwise. What's your scenes? Is this
a mutual decision or was he jump before? Do you
jump before he pushed?
Speaker 6 (04:59):
I think it was about as mutual as these things
can be. Yeah, we're talking high performance environments here, where
you know everyone's going to spin a narrative to suit there,
to suit their agenda. The one that came out on
the press release would suggest, you know, it's all happy,
happy families. He decided he didn't want to stay on
beyond his existing contract, which is about to expire, and
(05:22):
I think there's an element of.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Truth to that.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
I think he he was on a two year deal.
He rationalized at some point this year, as I understand it,
that he wasn't enjoying it as much, he wasn't making
the impact that he felt he could, and that he
wasn't necessarily convinced that seeking an extension on that contract
was something he wanted to do, so he aired that,
(05:47):
I believe, and there wasn't necessarily an awful lot of
energy expressed or expended in trying to dissuade him of
that notion. I think he said, I'm not sure I
want to stay on, and the All Blacks kind of
went okay, and they reached a point where they were
both happy for him to go into the year. And
(06:10):
you know, the All Blacks are quite happy with that.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
So it's as much as these things can be.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
It is what you would call an amicable agreement, and
it leaves the door open now for Scott Robertson head coach,
to spend a bit of time once this Grand Slam
Tour is over to kind of reconfigure and work out,
you know, what a replacement strategy might look like, if
there is one, and how he might want to reconfigure
his coaching setup.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, there's this opportunity to restructure the coaching team. That
doesn't sound like anyone else would potentially be leaving, but
they may bring someone else in.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Well.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
Look, I mean a wee bit will depend on results, Elliott.
I think over the next four weeks, because you. Sometimes
you don't get the luxury of being the master of
your own fate when you're the Old Blacks coach, as
Ian Foster discovered a couple of years back. Sometimes results
reach a point where your employer intervenes and says, you know,
you might not want to make change, but we feel
(07:06):
that you now have to.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
So I think we're in an intriguing.
Speaker 6 (07:09):
Spot here because the Old Blacks results and performances to
date under Robertson have been a wee bit underwhelming. They're
not discernibly better than they were under Ian Foster the
way everyone imagined they would be if the Old Blecks
come home. And you know, I don't think that these
things are prescribed behind the scenes the way that we
think that they are. But I think anyone would you know,
(07:32):
with a reasonable assessment of what the Old Blacks ambition
and what New Zealand Rugby's ambition is for the Old
Blacks if they come home, you know, having lost to
Ireland and England, say two two entirely conceivable outcomes, by
the way, two good teams capable.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Of being the Old Blacks.
Speaker 6 (07:50):
I will get accused of ridiculous bias if I say that,
But thank you for pointing out that we are indeed wells,
great entertainers and a superb team on the rise.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
But I think if we get to that point, that'll
be a fourth defeat for the Old Lecks.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And I'm not preempting this. I'm just saying we.
Speaker 6 (08:06):
All know that there's not a lot of anyway here
for results to go against this team to the point where,
you know, another year with four defeats on the board
will challenge New Zealand Rugby to make some big decisions about,
you know, what they want to do with their all
black coaching group and its entirety. You know, maybe they
want to make wholesale changes at that point, and maybe
(08:28):
they're quite happy to carry on. It may be that
they put some pressure on Razor to to reconfigure a
few more assistants.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
We'll have to wait and see, but.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Clearly there is pressure building as a result of outcomes.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
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Speaker 3 (08:48):
The sort of thanst to Australia should be a wake
up call. Maybe not a huge wake up call, but
it should be one for netball in New Zealand that
things are going south pretty quickly. If you wanted to
mount the argument that this team wasn't affected by what's
been going on on the outside, then that sixty minutes
of netball basically told you that, yes, and they were.
(09:09):
The team looked fatigued, they look short on energy, they
look short on confidence, and the heads went down in
the final quarter as things began to unravel. This is
a team that was two goals behind at halftime, they
were in the contest, hadn't been playing the best netball,
especially in that first quarter, but the second quarter they
probably played the best quarter of the netball series so far.
But then it unraveled, and that to me speaks like
(09:31):
a team that isn't speaking and singing from the same
hymn sheet, and that is what they need to sort out.
They play again in Hamilton on Sunday and Netball New
Zealand and the players need to get around the table
and figure out a way to go forward. Dave Nold
then told her at this stage won't be there for
the rest of the year. Who knows beyond that, but
it seems to me at the moment things are untenable.
(09:53):
If at mccaus and Jerry seems to be doing her
best as head coach. The players though, seemed to be
in a word of their own and I don't know
how much longer that can go on and four nil
a lost to Australia seems very likely at the moment.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
The Chamber is now in session on sports facts.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Joining us now in the chamber is Winston or Worth,
Head of Sport at zied me. Winston, thanks for jumping
into the chamber. Busy old day of sport. Dame Nolan
told her inborn must be fist pumping going. We've been
bumped off the Herald Sport page because he's change in
the All Blacks environment and Jason Holland is waving bye
bye at the end of the year. What was your
reaction to that?
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yeah, Elliott, you're dead right. Dame Knowles and Neckborne, New
Zealand would have been as pleased as as all the
news editors around the country. Where to see to see
coaching drums within the All Blacks setup, Jason Holland stepping,
stepping back, stepping away, not renewing the contract, the framing
from within within the Kremlin from inn zed Rugby and
(10:52):
from from Scott Robertson earlier today. Is that is that
he's just choosing to move on and you know you
can't help but read between the lines on this. He's
he's halfway through his rain razor and now he's he's
two coaches down out of the four assistants he started with.
Gregor Paul had a good line that will be publishing
(11:13):
a bit later on, just to give you a little
peek into that one. He says, it's it could be
accidental to or unfortunate to lose one coach, but losing
two is a negligent. So yeah, I don't know, mate,
losing two out of the four that you start with,
you start with them for a reason. Surely those are
the guys you want to go through to the whole
campaign with, right.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Well, that's right similar to Ian Fotter three started with
those two that he got rid of as well, John
Plumtree departing. Of course bred More leaving as well. So
there's a lot of similarities that people probably weren't expecting too.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
This is the point in the storyline where Joe Schmidt
comes in.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Is it could be out of Australia back or do
you try and throw as many rand as you possibly
can at Tony Brown. There's not many significant answers. I
didn't think that are jumping out of the page at
the moment.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
No, it's a kind of situation that probably rather be
in in two years time, post the next World Cup,
Tony Brown and Joe Schmidt coming in together, maybe that's
something we see in eighteen months. But yeah, it was.
It was a shock and no matter what they say too,
the timing of it is pretty unusual, unfortunate. You know,
(12:22):
they fly out tomorrow on any of your tour, so
you're starting your tour under a shadow. Similar thing happened
when Lao McDonald left last year as well. I think
they were about to head over to to South Africa.
I'm just to keep things tidy. If it were me,
if I was running the narrative, I'd probably rather tie
that one off at the end of the tour when
everyone's got there, you know, starting to think about heading
(12:43):
away for their holidays. So yeah, interesting one.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Interesting coaching wise with the Silver Ferns as well. They're
tune all down in the series and now the questions
continue about Dame no Lean told her if they had won,
maybe those questions just quiet and a little bit but
the fires start flaming a little bit more given the
results aren't coming, while they've got an interim coaching set
up in there as well.
Speaker 7 (13:05):
Yeah, it's just the gift that keeps I'm giving. And
once the All Blacks are offshore and they're flying out
for you know, they'll be off the radar for a
good day or so, so we can all swing back
into talking about Dame Knowles. It seems to be strangely
handled at both ends. And you know, now you've even
got Crown ministers are pining on it, although also are
(13:26):
pining on it and saying there's nothing you can do
about it, which is fair enough for Mark Mitchell. Yeah.
It's one of the things about for the Silver Ferns
is success and failure is really binary. I think you're
either beating the Diamonds or you're losing to them. And
and you know that's not to belittle the efforts against
(13:48):
South Africa earlier or England and World Cup victories and
so on, but it is this very hard measuring stick
that they're up against. That must be what it feels
like to be a Wallaby supporter, I guess, and at
the moment they're on the wrong end of that equation
on top of all this other stuff, So who knows
when two more went over here? And maybe the whole
narrative flips.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
And yeah, Dame Noline who And finally AUCKLANDFC. You're a
big Auckland def C guy. I'm not sure if you're
a paid up member of the port. But they're back
at home for the first time in twenty twenty five
twenty six this week, Ken, what chance do you give
them of going all the way this year?
Speaker 7 (14:25):
They give themselves every chance and I think, if any
I do know, it's early days and they started with
a nile drawtch they certainly didn't do last year. I
think they went six wins in a row at six.
In fact, they went six six games before they conceded.
So but I think they're a better squad this year
because of the big English boy up front. The thing
(14:46):
they missed last year, oddly given that they finished top
of the league and they were beaten, but you could
almost say a little unlucky not to make the final.
The thing they missed was a big target man up front,
and now they got one of them, it looks a
more complete unit and so they come in the big
loss obviously is Alex Pawson. But the really interesting thing
(15:06):
around them will be if the magic, if that magic
vibe out at Mount Smart Go Media, whatever it continues.
It was so nice out there. I was out there
in the port with my kids and also in a
couple of lounges. I got out there plenty, and I
loved it. It was a wonderful way, you know, for
Auckland is whose idea of enjoying a football event, be
(15:30):
at league, foot league soccer or rugby for so long
has been sitting in miserable wintry conditions late at night,
worth really crappy public transport and all the problems that
go with it. To to be out there in the
sun when and it really did help the team were
winning and playing pretty good football. But so that'll be
interesting thing if the vibe is there with the crowd.
(15:50):
Few rainy days could be their biggest problem. A couple
of rainy days and a couple of nul one defeats
at home that they didn't expect, and maybe it won't
feel quite as vibe as it did last year. But
I got my tie up for it. I think they'll
win tomorrow and yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Never trust in Auckland, Summer Winston. Thank you very much
for your time.
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