June 10, 2025 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for June 10 2025, it’s rugby season but NZ cricket won’t have a bar of it, with another major announcement - although it does have a rugby angle. NZC’s new Manager of High Performance is former All Black Daryl Gibson. Why him? What does he know about cricket? Does that even matter? We’ll find out when he joins D’Arcy on the Fix.
D’Arcy tries to work out if NZR CEO Mark Robinson has been good, bad or ugly for the game he leaves at the end of the year.
In the Chamber, D’Arcy and New Zealand Herald’s Alex Powell talk smack around Daryl Gibson, Dan Vettori’s new gong and the potential for Liam Lawson to climb back into a Red Bull machine.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
You're listening to a podcast from News Talks at b
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
It be welcome on into the Sports Fixed podcast. Name
is Darcy Waldgrave and this has said on a Tuesday,
the tenth of June twenty twenty five. This of course
books in association with the fine folk at GJ. Gardner Holmes,
New Zealand's most trusted home builder lined up on today's podcast,
so you can be up to date with the latest
(00:40):
and greatest in sport, both here and overseas. I'm gonna
chat with Darryl Gibson shortly form All Black, former rugby
coach and now's got a new role with the Cricket
New Zealand as their high performance coach. We'll talk to
him next about what that entails him. How on earth
did a rugby player get himself in that position? You
(01:01):
want some random opinion, I've got a heart take around
the lifetimes. I actually know the career of CEO of
New Zealand Rugby and in the chamber it's Alex Powell.
He is a sports news journalist out of the New
Zealand Herald. As we take a will you look at
the big sports stories of the day. That is our intent,
so let's do it. In other news, in sweet talking
(01:26):
sport today, Mona Pasifka may have let go fifteen athletes
last week, but they've made up for at least a
couple of them with the signing of former All Black
Nanni La Mappe. The league playing convert is primed and
ready at Caps and midfield Capers after spending time most
recently in Japan and the same team as Ardie Savia.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The bodies, good bodies are fresh, and I think my
expecition is just I think for me, it's just giving
them winer boys and giving the team and the casey
stuff the best of best vision of myself as a
rugby player.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Lewis Clairebert needs to kick himself fresh the lead up
to the La Olympics and of course the upcoming World Champs.
The World four and a meter individual med league title
holder has been recently training with the Spanish national squad.
I think I'm more interested just to see how that
might affect me going.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Forward to racing US.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
You know, it's thought about defending the world championship title.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think it's more just senior effects for the next
sort of three four years until to La. The leaning
on the best is working warrior. Wade Egan's understudy Sam
Healey is sponging whatever he can off the high performing
occer hooker, even just listening to him in meetings and
stuff like that, the way.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
That he can surround the game, and just watching him
a training and.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Watching clips and everything and trying.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
To pick up little things that he does and asking
questions here and there. And it's definitely what my game
for it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And that's the sweet sound of spoken sport new scandapion.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's Sportsfix with Dancy Waldegrave.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The CEO of ends R Mark Robinson has stood down
his tenure will and at the end of twenty twenty five,
frankly On Stundy's lasted this long. No, not because of
the nature of his work and what he's overseen since
he's been in the role, but the intense scrutiny he
(03:25):
has found himself under. A thankless task for Mark Robinson.
He replaced Steve Q. You gotta argue that Steve qu
he ruled New Zealand rugby with an iron fist. And
it was not in a velvet glove. That was his union.
They were his decisions. It was absolutely bite as they come,
(03:48):
nothing leaked, no one spoke out of turn. New Zealand
rugby was known as the Kremlin, and I think with
good reason. Mark Robinson comes in, it appears to be
a smiley, fresh new public face for end z are
and then it stopped. Mark had so much to deal
with over the time. Whether you think he's succeeded or
(04:10):
he's failed, arguably silver Lake, well, I suppose the proof
of that pudding is yet to be eating. You've looked
at the relative failure of the All Blacks. You look
at the tumult caused around Ian Foster leaving in Scott
Raiser Robertson taking his post. There's some bad things. On
(04:31):
the positive, well, look at the advancement that New Zealand
Women's rugby has made under his watch. That is enormously important.
Look at Super Rugby. It took long enough, but eventually
it got there. Now we are back to the good
old days of a very vibrant and competitive competition and
(04:53):
he should stand up proudly when you look back at
those two facets. But in general to thankless task. You
are to blame for everything. You can't control anything, and
the fingers always pointed at you when something goes horribly wrong,
and you're very rarely applauded when things go fantastically right.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a difficult job.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's been tough for Mark Robinson, but you've got to
commend him for sticking in that long and what must
be the hardest job in New Zealand sport.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Dime now on the Fixed podcast for Darryl Gibson, former
All Black, former Super rugby coach, but now he finds
himself as the high performance director for New Zealand Cricket.
He joins us, Now, what do you know about cricket,
Darryl Gibson.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I'll tell you what, Darcy. I'm going to be a
quick learner. That's what I'm going to be obviously, like
many New Zealanders growing up on a diet of rugby
and cricket, you know, consumed that during the late eighties,
early nineties when it was on free to year and
we're really just looking forward to joining what I see
(06:12):
as a very progressive agile New Zealand cricket organization.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So you're taking over from Brian Stronach. Huge amount of
respect in the cricketing community for what Stroney as they
call him, offered. So what are you doing to compliment
that to move it on? Do you consider what he
left behind? Is it a free start for you? Dell?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
No, No, absolutely, I think it's on the shoulder of giants.
Incredible legacy left by both Gary Stronnie, all the players,
administrational people that have sort of built this legacy of
sustained New Zealand success. You know, we are consistently a
(06:58):
top four cricketing nation. You know, I think part of
the challenge for myself and Robbers the new incoming head
coach and is you know, how do we approve upon
that and then also what's the performance edge that's missing
that will help us begin to really win trophies.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I want to ask what that is because then had
time to talk to Rob Walter about that. So you
get there. You know what, Rob, though, you don't want
to reinvent the way when you get in that it's
a matter of fate under the desk and just roll
from there.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Absolutely, you know, it's have a look, you know, get
in there is guaranteed to be stuff that we do
better than any other nation in the world, and it's
making sure that a we recognize and identify what those
things are, make sure they remain a strength, but then
also systematically go about looking for the provements the gaps
(07:55):
that we can make in performance both and you know
obviously the black caps and the white ferns. One thing
I'm really passionate about Darcy, and I'm really grateful for
my time and at the high performance sport is the
importance of pathways and then identification of talent and how
we bring that till then through. So I see, you know,
(08:16):
some real opportunities to add some value there and I'm
really looking forward to getting stuck in when I start
in mid July.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Primarily, Darryl, what does your role encompass? If you could
summarize it in the paragraph, what would it be? Were
you supposed to laugh?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Mate? You come on if you did that in there?
Do you just see you on your back side? What
do you have to do?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Well, it's like you've run in New Zealand. You look
at your job description and then you look at what
you actually do and you think, well, that's nothing closely
resembling that. But no, I obviously in charge of all
our performance side of New Zealand cricket. So we'll see
the performances of Black Caps and White Ferns, all our
age group and new on a teams. You know, any
(09:02):
team in black really that's playing under the banner of
New Zealand cricket, that's one side. Does you know that
performance side? I think that the real opportunity for me
is how do we systemize and make sure that as
a sport we're sustainable and years to come. You know,
(09:23):
we've got a small talent pool here in New Zealand.
We've known that for a long time. How do we
make sure we're maximizing that talent and bringing it through
so New Zealand remains strong every year?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
How do you know if you if it's working or not?
Do you Obviously they talk about key performance indicators, but
do you look across there. It's not a contract you
an employee now, but look across that note. What what
do you have to hurt? What do you mark so
you know this is actually working? And how long do
you think you've got on the role before you can
say yeah, this is actually going somewhere.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, that's right, I think, you know. I performance sport
often decisions are made and then it takes a while systemized,
you know, for those things to eventuate. We've seen plenty
of cases of administration and people making decisions that have
impacted the performance of the team in years to come.
(10:14):
You know, I has it a guess, Darcy, last time
I spoke to yours in charge of a writas in Australia,
you know, and there's one sport that is stall coming
to terms with decisions that were made decades ago. So
I'm really conscious of the work and the decisions and
(10:36):
system foundational pieces that they don't disrupt or don't dismantle
more right, but enhance. So we are a strong cricket
nation from the US.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The Chamber is now in session on Sports X.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
The Chamber door swings open. Alex Powell awaits Alex Sports
New journalists in New Zealand Herald, Good day to you, sirdars.
Long time they see go on may Well you're feeling
left out or something you know, well, welcomed you back again,
you know, with open arms. The best you can give me.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Thank you mate, good.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Fight okay, nice right, let's get things going.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Big stories today.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I suppose the biggest one today is Nanni la Muppy
has disappeared from Japan coming back to play for the Turbos. No,
he's actually coming back to play for mo one A Pussyfica.
They lose fifteen last week and they add Nani. Arguably
he's probably three guys in the midfield, so it's a
pretty good call after that devastation of last week.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
It's a bloody good move for all parties, isn't it.
Like Nanni la Mapi, let's not better on the watch
as box office. It was such a huge loss when
we lost them first to France and then to Japan.
So to have him back, I know he's thirty two,
so matches me having him back to teach the next generation,
to give back to pacifica roots. I think it's just
an absolute win for the competition.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's part of what this is, isn't it. It's book nded,
so you get the youngest coming through and you get
the older guys shepherding people around. Part of what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I mean, it's the financial reality of New Zealand rugby
that you just can't keep everyone so you are going
to lose guys midweith throwness of their content with sort
of not being all Blacks. Then they're going to go.
And I think the nature of the PACIFICA players in
particular is that they can't turn down these opportunities when
they come up. So I for a guy like Nannie,
I imagine he's gone away, he's done the right thing
(12:23):
by his family, and now he's coming back to play
for a PACIFICA Pride at the end.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And he's been playing over in Kobe with Ardie Savia,
so playing the art, he has been having a few words,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, they're going to pass each other on the way.
He's gone back for another sabbatical.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I wonder what this will do for potential league players
that might want a union career, going, well, here's a
guy who made his name in league, he went across,
he became an all Black. Maybe it might be a
flag for some league players going, you know, play bit
of rugby or am I just going to failway?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I think those are always going to be case by case.
I don't think there's ever there's going to be a
blank rule of guys who go from league to union
or union to league. It's sort of how you come up.
Like so Nanio Marpi came up playing rugby union to
the Warriors and then backed himself to go and be
a All Black when he switched back to union. And
he did that.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And you say blockbusting, that's quite literal. When he plows
his way through the midfield is quite amazing to watch.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Remember when there was that criticism that he was too
one dimensional and so he edited the second dimention. He
either run over you or run around you.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No perfect, and you're talking about advancing age. Look, he's
not going to come back and play All Blacks again.
But you look at a guy like Martino and he
played his best rugby in his.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Early thirties, isn't he? I think Mars the exception that
proves the rule. He's still playing now and he's what
forty two, and I don't think he'll be coming over
to play for one. Although look, you never put it
past him, right, How good would that be? Wow, that'd
be amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, they've got fourteen more spots to feel best of luck,
get stuck in. You've got the rest of winter and
spring and hopefully you can sort something out. Other big
news around today is a rugby players now turned to
the cricket. Darryl Gibson are all black in New South
Wales Warataz coach, Canterbury player, great storied career in rugby,
(14:10):
maybe not so much in coaching. Now he finds himself
high performance directing over at New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
This is good. I think it's actually a real good appointment.
You've got a guy who might not necessarily be as
versed in cricket and treasure group, but you've got a
guy who understands sport and that is where cricket is
at the moment. Cricket as a sport globally. Is it
a really interesting tipping point where it might go one
with the other. It might go what we have now
where it's all about the international game. But I think
(14:37):
more likely it's going to be towards the club game.
And now you're going to have to operate with a balance.
And you've got a guy like Darro Gibson who's not
operated in club rugby and knows super rugby and knows
you know, the orators in the Australian set up, so
he is actually going to be really well versed in
using that experience to hopefully take the game in this
country forward.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And he comes from high performance sporting z so he's
attached to the nature of high performance. What I like
about this appointment is he's not a cricketer. IM sound odd,
but there are no people for whom that he may
have trod on their toes before, or there's no baggage
at all. He comes in fresh. That's got to be
a good palette to work for him.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
It is also I think we should give an honorable
mention here to Brian Stromerk, who's held that job for
as long as I've been a journalist. Really good guy
to deal with, understands the game, understands the needs of
the media, is always willing to speak and to speak well,
never hides. So I think if Darrek Gibson can do
half as well a job as Brian strongth that I
(15:36):
think they've made a really good appointment.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Let's move on to our favorite sport, Formula one se
he've been causing a ruckus in the New Zeland Herald again.
Oh clickbait a Alex Eyes the latest story ahead of
the fantastic being magnificently. I've actually got to go to
this race, the Canadian Grand Prix coming up on the weekend, So.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Your thoughts are it's not thoughts. I've had it confirmed
as we spoke about the other week Should Max step
and pick up another penalty point before in the next
two races Ambi banned. Liam Lawson has his nose slightly
in front to replace some back at Red Bull two questions.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Would he want that car back again after what happened
in his first few races and what he's doing with
the racing ball.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I think he would, wouldn't he? Like you're giving him
a car that we've seen can win races. Any driver
worth their salt would take that move.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But any driver worth the salt can't drive the car.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
So Max for stapping can well you have one one?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
No, It's very delicate, isn't it, Because that car we've
seen can be a massive peg, you know, and you
look at our Yuki stotu's gone since replacing them Lawson,
he's had the odd result here or there, like the
results that Liam Lawson would have gotten had they persisted
with him. But you're right, it's so tough to drive.
It requires so much confidence and we've just seen Lem
Lawson start to slowly rebuild and what would this do.
(16:53):
I think that's why they're not putting Isaac Kadjo in there,
which is very much the sentiment at the moment is
that is he is the next one who's going to
go into that car as a full time driver as
and when they chop Yuki Sonoda, but for a one
off given his experience in the car with a couple
of races and preison testing, Lamb Lawson will go back
in there.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And also he's behaving like Max. First step and his
elbows are out right the way around. So they see
the red bull coming, they go, I don't know who's
in it, but I know they're going to try. Well,
they're going to get passed by any means necessary. Second thing,
how likely is it that the step and picks up
another penalty point.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
It's tough, isn't it. I think he'll be on his
best behavior, but that, like we see with Max, when
the red miss sets in, just go for it because
that's what he'll do.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's what happened, red Miss, and he just didn't know.
That was one of the most bizarre things well, not
the most. I've seen plenty of botsar things in Formula
one over the last fifty years, but it was Wow,
you really did that. So didn't take much to set
them off, did it.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I'd be very surprised if he does it again over
the next two races.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
What about the marshals though, because they in essence have
got control over that, and you know what they've done there. There'
should penalty points and all sorts of things. I don't
know there's a clear line there, Alex.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I mean, it's trick, isn't it when you're just relying
on someone's interpretation of rule. So if he can do
that and just keep it clean for a couple of races,
do not give them a decision to make, then he
should be all right, surely. And that's a great theory.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Don't put someone else in a position to make a
decision that will affect you. I keep telling my daughter
that just take the control away if you will, not
that she's driving Formula one cars good because dad can't
afford it. Here, You have a fantastic day, Alex Perwell,
thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Thanks having me num.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
It be welcome on into the Sports Fixed podcast. Name
is Darcy Waldgrave and this has said on a Tuesday,
the tenth of June twenty twenty five. This of course
books in association with the fine folk at GJ. Gardner Holmes,
New Zealand's most trusted home builder lined up on today's podcast,
so you can be up to date with the latest
(00:40):
and greatest in sport, both here and overseas. I'm gonna
chat with Darryl Gibson shortly form All Black, former rugby
coach and now's got a new role with the Cricket
New Zealand as their high performance coach. We'll talk to
him next about what that entails him. How on earth
did a rugby player get himself in that position? You
(01:01):
want some random opinion, I've got a heart take around
the lifetimes. I actually know the career of CEO of
New Zealand Rugby and in the chamber it's Alex Powell.
He is a sports news journalist out of the New
Zealand Herald. As we take a will you look at
the big sports stories of the day. That is our intent,
so let's do it. In other news, in sweet talking
(01:26):
sport today, Mona Pasifka may have let go fifteen athletes
last week, but they've made up for at least a
couple of them with the signing of former All Black
Nanni La Mappe. The league playing convert is primed and
ready at Caps and midfield Capers after spending time most
recently in Japan and the same team as Ardie Savia.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
The bodies, good bodies are fresh, and I think my
expecition is just I think for me, it's just giving
them winer boys and giving the team and the casey
stuff the best of best vision of myself as a
rugby player.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Lewis Clairebert needs to kick himself fresh the lead up
to the La Olympics and of course the upcoming World Champs.
The World four and a meter individual med league title
holder has been recently training with the Spanish national squad.
I think I'm more interested just to see how that
might affect me going.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Forward to racing US.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
You know, it's thought about defending the world championship title.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think it's more just senior effects for the next
sort of three four years until to La. The leaning
on the best is working warrior. Wade Egan's understudy Sam
Healey is sponging whatever he can off the high performing
occer hooker, even just listening to him in meetings and
stuff like that, the way.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
That he can surround the game, and just watching him
a training and.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Watching clips and everything and trying.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
To pick up little things that he does and asking
questions here and there. And it's definitely what my game
for it.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
And that's the sweet sound of spoken sport new scandapion.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It's Sportsfix with Dancy Waldegrave.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
The CEO of ends R Mark Robinson has stood down
his tenure will and at the end of twenty twenty five,
frankly On Stundy's lasted this long. No, not because of
the nature of his work and what he's overseen since
he's been in the role, but the intense scrutiny he
(03:25):
has found himself under. A thankless task for Mark Robinson.
He replaced Steve Q. You gotta argue that Steve qu
he ruled New Zealand rugby with an iron fist. And
it was not in a velvet glove. That was his union.
They were his decisions. It was absolutely bite as they come,
(03:48):
nothing leaked, no one spoke out of turn. New Zealand
rugby was known as the Kremlin, and I think with
good reason. Mark Robinson comes in, it appears to be
a smiley, fresh new public face for end z are
and then it stopped. Mark had so much to deal
with over the time. Whether you think he's succeeded or
(04:10):
he's failed, arguably silver Lake, well, I suppose the proof
of that pudding is yet to be eating. You've looked
at the relative failure of the All Blacks. You look
at the tumult caused around Ian Foster leaving in Scott
Raiser Robertson taking his post. There's some bad things. On
(04:31):
the positive, well, look at the advancement that New Zealand
Women's rugby has made under his watch. That is enormously important.
Look at Super Rugby. It took long enough, but eventually
it got there. Now we are back to the good
old days of a very vibrant and competitive competition and
(04:53):
he should stand up proudly when you look back at
those two facets. But in general to thankless task. You
are to blame for everything. You can't control anything, and
the fingers always pointed at you when something goes horribly wrong,
and you're very rarely applauded when things go fantastically right.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
It's a difficult job.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's been tough for Mark Robinson, but you've got to
commend him for sticking in that long and what must
be the hardest job in New Zealand sport.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Dime now on the Fixed podcast for Darryl Gibson, former
All Black, former Super rugby coach, but now he finds
himself as the high performance director for New Zealand Cricket.
He joins us, Now, what do you know about cricket,
Darryl Gibson.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
I'll tell you what, Darcy. I'm going to be a
quick learner. That's what I'm going to be obviously, like
many New Zealanders growing up on a diet of rugby
and cricket, you know, consumed that during the late eighties,
early nineties when it was on free to year and
we're really just looking forward to joining what I see
(06:12):
as a very progressive agile New Zealand cricket organization.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So you're taking over from Brian Stronach. Huge amount of
respect in the cricketing community for what Stroney as they
call him, offered. So what are you doing to compliment
that to move it on? Do you consider what he
left behind? Is it a free start for you? Dell?
Speaker 5 (06:36):
No, No, absolutely, I think it's on the shoulder of giants.
Incredible legacy left by both Gary Stronnie, all the players,
administrational people that have sort of built this legacy of
sustained New Zealand success. You know, we are consistently a
(06:58):
top four cricketing nation. You know, I think part of
the challenge for myself and Robbers the new incoming head
coach and is you know, how do we approve upon
that and then also what's the performance edge that's missing
that will help us begin to really win trophies.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I want to ask what that is because then had
time to talk to Rob Walter about that. So you
get there. You know what, Rob, though, you don't want
to reinvent the way when you get in that it's
a matter of fate under the desk and just roll
from there.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Absolutely, you know, it's have a look, you know, get
in there is guaranteed to be stuff that we do
better than any other nation in the world, and it's
making sure that a we recognize and identify what those
things are, make sure they remain a strength, but then
also systematically go about looking for the provements the gaps
(07:55):
that we can make in performance both and you know
obviously the black caps and the white ferns. One thing
I'm really passionate about Darcy, and I'm really grateful for
my time and at the high performance sport is the
importance of pathways and then identification of talent and how
we bring that till then through. So I see, you know,
(08:16):
some real opportunities to add some value there and I'm
really looking forward to getting stuck in when I start
in mid July.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Primarily, Darryl, what does your role encompass? If you could
summarize it in the paragraph, what would it be? Were
you supposed to laugh?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
Mate? You come on if you did that in there?
Do you just see you on your back side? What
do you have to do?
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Well, it's like you've run in New Zealand. You look
at your job description and then you look at what
you actually do and you think, well, that's nothing closely
resembling that. But no, I obviously in charge of all
our performance side of New Zealand cricket. So we'll see
the performances of Black Caps and White Ferns, all our
age group and new on a teams. You know, any
(09:02):
team in black really that's playing under the banner of
New Zealand cricket, that's one side. Does you know that
performance side? I think that the real opportunity for me
is how do we systemize and make sure that as
a sport we're sustainable and years to come. You know,
(09:23):
we've got a small talent pool here in New Zealand.
We've known that for a long time. How do we
make sure we're maximizing that talent and bringing it through
so New Zealand remains strong every year?
Speaker 2 (09:35):
How do you know if you if it's working or not?
Do you Obviously they talk about key performance indicators, but
do you look across there. It's not a contract you
an employee now, but look across that note. What what
do you have to hurt? What do you mark so
you know this is actually working? And how long do
you think you've got on the role before you can
say yeah, this is actually going somewhere.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
Yeah, that's right, I think, you know. I performance sport
often decisions are made and then it takes a while systemized,
you know, for those things to eventuate. We've seen plenty
of cases of administration and people making decisions that have
impacted the performance of the team in years to come.
(10:14):
You know, I has it a guess, Darcy, last time
I spoke to yours in charge of a writas in Australia,
you know, and there's one sport that is stall coming
to terms with decisions that were made decades ago. So
I'm really conscious of the work and the decisions and
(10:36):
system foundational pieces that they don't disrupt or don't dismantle
more right, but enhance. So we are a strong cricket
nation from the US.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
The Chamber is now in session on Sports X.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
The Chamber door swings open. Alex Powell awaits Alex Sports
New journalists in New Zealand Herald, Good day to you, sirdars.
Long time they see go on may Well you're feeling
left out or something you know, well, welcomed you back again,
you know, with open arms. The best you can give me.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Thank you mate, good.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Fight okay, nice right, let's get things going.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Big stories today.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I suppose the biggest one today is Nanni la Muppy
has disappeared from Japan coming back to play for the Turbos. No,
he's actually coming back to play for mo one A Pussyfica.
They lose fifteen last week and they add Nani. Arguably
he's probably three guys in the midfield, so it's a
pretty good call after that devastation of last week.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
It's a bloody good move for all parties, isn't it.
Like Nanni la Mapi, let's not better on the watch
as box office. It was such a huge loss when
we lost them first to France and then to Japan.
So to have him back, I know he's thirty two,
so matches me having him back to teach the next generation,
to give back to pacifica roots. I think it's just
an absolute win for the competition.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's part of what this is, isn't it. It's book nded,
so you get the youngest coming through and you get
the older guys shepherding people around. Part of what they're doing.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
I mean, it's the financial reality of New Zealand rugby
that you just can't keep everyone so you are going
to lose guys midweith throwness of their content with sort
of not being all Blacks. Then they're going to go.
And I think the nature of the PACIFICA players in
particular is that they can't turn down these opportunities when
they come up. So I for a guy like Nannie,
I imagine he's gone away, he's done the right thing
(12:23):
by his family, and now he's coming back to play
for a PACIFICA Pride at the end.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
And he's been playing over in Kobe with Ardie Savia,
so playing the art, he has been having a few words,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, they're going to pass each other on the way.
He's gone back for another sabbatical.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
I wonder what this will do for potential league players
that might want a union career, going, well, here's a
guy who made his name in league, he went across,
he became an all Black. Maybe it might be a
flag for some league players going, you know, play bit
of rugby or am I just going to failway?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
I think those are always going to be case by case.
I don't think there's ever there's going to be a
blank rule of guys who go from league to union
or union to league. It's sort of how you come up.
Like so Nanio Marpi came up playing rugby union to
the Warriors and then backed himself to go and be
a All Black when he switched back to union. And
he did that.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
And you say blockbusting, that's quite literal. When he plows
his way through the midfield is quite amazing to watch.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Remember when there was that criticism that he was too
one dimensional and so he edited the second dimention. He
either run over you or run around you.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
No perfect, and you're talking about advancing age. Look, he's
not going to come back and play All Blacks again.
But you look at a guy like Martino and he
played his best rugby in his.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Early thirties, isn't he? I think Mars the exception that
proves the rule. He's still playing now and he's what
forty two, and I don't think he'll be coming over
to play for one. Although look, you never put it
past him, right, How good would that be? Wow, that'd
be amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Well, they've got fourteen more spots to feel best of luck,
get stuck in. You've got the rest of winter and
spring and hopefully you can sort something out. Other big
news around today is a rugby players now turned to
the cricket. Darryl Gibson are all black in New South
Wales Warataz coach, Canterbury player, great storied career in rugby,
(14:10):
maybe not so much in coaching. Now he finds himself
high performance directing over at New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
This is good. I think it's actually a real good appointment.
You've got a guy who might not necessarily be as
versed in cricket and treasure group, but you've got a
guy who understands sport and that is where cricket is
at the moment. Cricket as a sport globally. Is it
a really interesting tipping point where it might go one
with the other. It might go what we have now
where it's all about the international game. But I think
(14:37):
more likely it's going to be towards the club game.
And now you're going to have to operate with a balance.
And you've got a guy like Darro Gibson who's not
operated in club rugby and knows super rugby and knows
you know, the orators in the Australian set up, so
he is actually going to be really well versed in
using that experience to hopefully take the game in this
country forward.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
And he comes from high performance sporting z so he's
attached to the nature of high performance. What I like
about this appointment is he's not a cricketer. IM sound odd,
but there are no people for whom that he may
have trod on their toes before, or there's no baggage
at all. He comes in fresh. That's got to be
a good palette to work for him.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
It is also I think we should give an honorable
mention here to Brian Stromerk, who's held that job for
as long as I've been a journalist. Really good guy
to deal with, understands the game, understands the needs of
the media, is always willing to speak and to speak well,
never hides. So I think if Darrek Gibson can do
half as well a job as Brian strongth that I
(15:36):
think they've made a really good appointment.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Let's move on to our favorite sport, Formula one se
he've been causing a ruckus in the New Zeland Herald again.
Oh clickbait a Alex Eyes the latest story ahead of
the fantastic being magnificently. I've actually got to go to
this race, the Canadian Grand Prix coming up on the weekend, So.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Your thoughts are it's not thoughts. I've had it confirmed
as we spoke about the other week Should Max step
and pick up another penalty point before in the next
two races Ambi banned. Liam Lawson has his nose slightly
in front to replace some back at Red Bull two questions.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
Would he want that car back again after what happened
in his first few races and what he's doing with
the racing ball.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I think he would, wouldn't he? Like you're giving him
a car that we've seen can win races. Any driver
worth their salt would take that move.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
But any driver worth the salt can't drive the car.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
So Max for stapping can well you have one one?
Speaker 5 (16:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
No, It's very delicate, isn't it, Because that car we've
seen can be a massive peg, you know, and you
look at our Yuki stotu's gone since replacing them Lawson,
he's had the odd result here or there, like the
results that Liam Lawson would have gotten had they persisted
with him. But you're right, it's so tough to drive.
It requires so much confidence and we've just seen Lem
Lawson start to slowly rebuild and what would this do.
(16:53):
I think that's why they're not putting Isaac Kadjo in there,
which is very much the sentiment at the moment is
that is he is the next one who's going to
go into that car as a full time driver as
and when they chop Yuki Sonoda, but for a one
off given his experience in the car with a couple
of races and preison testing, Lamb Lawson will go back
in there.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
And also he's behaving like Max. First step and his
elbows are out right the way around. So they see
the red bull coming, they go, I don't know who's
in it, but I know they're going to try. Well,
they're going to get passed by any means necessary. Second thing,
how likely is it that the step and picks up
another penalty point.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
It's tough, isn't it. I think he'll be on his
best behavior, but that, like we see with Max, when
the red miss sets in, just go for it because
that's what he'll do.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Well, that's what happened.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
That's what happened.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
That's what happened, red Miss, and he just didn't know.
That was one of the most bizarre things well, not
the most. I've seen plenty of botsar things in Formula
one over the last fifty years, but it was Wow,
you really did that. So didn't take much to set
them off, did it.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
I'd be very surprised if he does it again over
the next two races.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
What about the marshals though, because they in essence have
got control over that, and you know what they've done there. There'
should penalty points and all sorts of things. I don't
know there's a clear line there, Alex.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I mean, it's trick, isn't it when you're just relying
on someone's interpretation of rule. So if he can do
that and just keep it clean for a couple of races,
do not give them a decision to make, then he
should be all right, surely. And that's a great theory.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Don't put someone else in a position to make a
decision that will affect you. I keep telling my daughter
that just take the control away if you will, not
that she's driving Formula one cars good because dad can't
afford it. Here, You have a fantastic day, Alex Perwell,
thanks so much for joining us.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Thanks having me num.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
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