September 29, 2025 • 17 mins
On Sports Fix with Nick Bewley for 30th September 2025, there have been reports stating that NZ Cricket have been in discussions with Cricket Australia about the possibility of a New Zealand side entering the Big Bash T20 league in Australia. Nick spoke with former Black Cap Chris Cairns to hear his thoughts.
Nick shared his thoughts on Jamie Joseph being appointed coach of the New Zealand XV today
And Nick and Newstalk ZB sports news director Clay Wilson discuss the potential of a New Zealand side entering the Big Bash, the recent demolishing of the New Zealand Schools team against the Australia U18's and the latest in the Dame Noeline Taurua and Silver Ferns saga.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Welcome into the Sports Fixed podcast nicularly here for Darcy
Watergrave keeping you up to date with everything sport locally
and internationally. Today is Tuesday, thirty September.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Coming up shortly, I'll be joined by former.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Blackcat Chris Ken's a New Zealand based side in Australia's
T twenty Men's and Women's Big Bash. Could it work
and what would it mean for our super Smash. I've
got some thoughts on the appointment of Jamie Joseph as
All Blacks fifteen coach and joining me in the chamber
is News Talks edb's Sports news director Clay Wilson. Plenty
(00:55):
to get to as always, so let's rap it in
other news. Let's get you across some of the big
sporting matters that have made news over the last twenty
four hours. News Yelling Cricket have pressed onto the one
foot about getting a team into Australia's Big Bash T
twenty competition Chief executive Scott Winning since they are investigating
(01:15):
the viability, but need buy in from the likes of
the Players Association and all the provinces, as well as
the blessing of their trans Tasman counterparts, when in claims
they also still want a credible domestically, albeit diluted by
an exodus of top players.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Stuper Smash would certainly continue in some form if we
were to put teams in the Big Bett, because it's
important to have a very very strong domestic competition in
New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
More on the soon with former black appt Chris Ken's. Meanwhile,
Blackburn's coach Alan Bunting believes it will be increasingly harder
to win the Women's Rugby World Cup. Returning home from
the UK with Bronze, Bunting's highlighted the growth of the
women's game and increasing professionalism of the top teams. He
reckons New Zealand has improved, but other nations are making
(02:01):
big progress too.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Woman Ruby's really shifted and as long as a sort
of fund or two teams now it's quite a few more.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Obviously is women's grow.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Hopefully there's a.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Lot more teams that are really competing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
For spots and a key change in Storm half ack
Jerome Hughes's schedule as he prepares for Sunday's NRL Grand
Final against the Broncos in Sydney. The Kibi's playmakers only
have been in two games across the past two months
after dealing with arm and shoulder injuries. That means last
year's Dally yem medallist will mess out on the competition's
highest honor and the ceremony tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
The good thing is I don't need to go to
Dallims this year, which is good for me. I haven't
played that well this year, so I didn't get invited
leading a vex.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
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Speaker 2 (02:47):
An interesting story emerging across the Tasman in the last
twenty four hours. Cricket Australia looking at expanding their T
twenty Big Bash Cricket competition and have been chatting to
the good folk at New Zealand Cricket about entering a
New Zealand based men's and women's side. Joining me to
discuss this a good friend of the program former black
(03:08):
cap Chris Ken's good evening to you, Chrisnick. Look it
feels like this has been something that has been on
the table, off the table, and now on the table again.
What do we I think we've had fourteen editions of
the Big Bash across the Tasman What what say you? Is
this a good idea looking at this through the eyes
of New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Absolutely, I've been an advocate of it for quite some time.
I know there was perhaps a little bit of hesitancy
on the New Zealand side as well about how you
can buy in our domestic super Smash competition given that
the Big Bash runs at the same time. But I
think where Franchise Cricket is heading and the recent developments
(03:50):
by Cricket Australia to sort of bring in the Boston
consulting group to sort of review their whole domestic plan
with a road leading to significant investment the Big Bash
that New Zealand there is a logical addition to that competition.
So I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Just talk us through from our listeners perspective. It might
not be aware what's the status solved the Big Bash
in australiacause, as I mentioned, you know burst onto the
scene with all this excitement around twenty eleven twenty twelve,
we have seen more and more competitions. You now look
at South Africa, they have won that runs basically at
the same time. So where are they at You say
they've got a consultant in are they Are they looking
(04:28):
at all options? Are they even sort of struggling we're
to look next?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
No, I think I think they've identified that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
The key is getting the international players to play, and
you know the way that they structure the Big Bash
the international guys, the Australian guys only played gosh, only
maybe two or three games during that Big Batch season.
So I do think that there's an appetite to understand
how an Australian season would unfold. Given that you've got
(04:56):
those premium five Test matches, you know, in particular that
Boxing Day and New Year's Test. They've got that people
test there, so you know they're juggling a lot of
balls with how can work. But given I think the
fact that around the world now you know, there's significant investment,
private investment going into these leagues, I do think that
(05:18):
Cricket Australia want to try and get a piece of
that action. So you know, given the nature of what
they're doing. I heard Scott Winning talking today that you know,
to have New Zealand Cricket joined at the hip with
Cricket Australia off the back of this, I think that's
a super smart play to get that involved. And what
New Zealand Cricket now needs to try and work out
as how does a domestic offering work back here whilst
(05:38):
you've got a big Bash being played over there.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah. We had Scott Wenank on the Mike Costing Breakfast
this morning saying in some way, shape or form, the
domestic Super Smash would continue if this was to go ahead. Chris,
Is there a danger though that such a move could
detract from our domestic competition, could dilute it?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
No? No, no, not at all, I would should we say?
The best example is the National the NRL over and
Aussie I mean the Warriors are a huge part of
that competition, you know, very well respected, especially off the
back of what they did for that competition during COVID
and you know, I just see the Big Bash has
been exactly the same as the NRL. And then off
(06:18):
the back of what happens domestically, well, I think during
that seasonal aspect of the December January. I would take
the New Zealand domestic competition back into those holiday areas.
I mean, you know, we used to go down and
play in alex We used to go down in South
Canterbury and to Maru. We played games in Levin whether
(06:39):
it's Napier into Talpo and to song Ray. So you know,
it takes just some thinking outside the box about how
that works. But taking those T twenty matches afternoon games
into holiday sort of hot spots and then in the evening,
you know, you've got to have that quality international cricket
coming from Australia via the Big Bash, of which New
Zealand's got a significant interest in. So I think if
(07:01):
they're able to bring it together, and again Scott sort
of said on the show today with Mike that you
know they're not rushing. We're looking at about a twenty
twenty eight sort of window here, so getting everything aligned
over the next couple of years to do that, I
think it's a great addition to the cricket calendar down
here in the Southern Hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
What has your observation been then on on the status quo,
the Super Smash and it's current iteration when it goes
up against a Big.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Bash, it's just it's just quality of player. I don't
I don't think the New Zealand product has the ability
to attract those international players. Look, I know we continuously
punch above our way to New Zealand with you know,
the competitive nature of player that we put on the field,
so I don't think we'll ever lose that. But as
a as an offering, you know, our market is too small,
(07:50):
you know, to get players out here, there's not enough
money to pay them. So by attaching ourselves to Australia again,
I just come back to that NRL comparison, you know that,
you know that's what that's what we're looking to create.
And then having that sort of second tier of holiday
offerings with cricket that's out there that still get the
young guys coming through. Look when I say guys, I'm
(08:13):
also talking about the girls game and what's involved in
that because that runs parallel with the Big Bash as well.
But if you've got that men's and women's offering in
the New Zealand side of things, with young players coming through,
who then potentially if there's injuries into teams, you know
they're playing cricket and they'll step into possible contracts and
big bash. So look, you know, I do think it
(08:35):
can work. I just need some clever thinking. And look,
you know the way us on a cricket has been
doing and going about their business. You know there's some
good people involved there now and I think that they'll
come up with a great solution.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
This is Sportsfix, your daily dose of sports news. Cowering
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Speaker 2 (08:51):
There be credit to Jamie Joseph for accepting an approach
from New Zealand Rugby to be the next All Blacks
fifteen coach All Blacks fifteen New Zealand b call it
what you like. They're an important developmental side where alignment
with the All Blacks the top team is critical. It's
not really about results, I mean, can anyone remember how
(09:11):
they went last year. It's about exposing the next wave
of talent to international rugby, getting them test ready and
perhaps juggling the egos of a select few who have
fallen out of favor with the top side. From the
outside looking in, one could wonder if there is an
awkwardness for Jamie Joseph and taking on a role where
he has to communicate with and ultimately help Scott Robinson.
(09:35):
Let's not forget Joseph had to play himself at being
the next All Blacks coach before Razer was appointed.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
In twenty twenty three, I put the very.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Question of Jamie Joseph on our sports talk program. He
laughed me away and that's fair enough. He went on
to say, that's professional rugby and professional coaching. Joseph seemed
genuinely excited by the opportunity of unearthing and helping develop
the next big thing or big things. Look at cam
ROYGANDT for example. Now he toured with the All Blacks
(10:05):
fifteen in twenty twenty two. He was an All Black
by twenty twenty three, and already what is he thirteen
tests into his career. He feels like one of, if
not our most important player here in twenty twenty five.
So again I say credit to Jamie Joseph and credit
to New Zealand rugby. I'm fascinated to see what he
(10:26):
can do with the hell.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, time to enter the chamber, kick around a few
sporting topics with one of my esteemed colleagues from the
NZME Sports department and what a pleasure it is to
welcome into the chamber our Sports News director Clay Wilson.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Can I Clay Goday Neck The pleasure is all mine?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Look an interesting story first up emerging across the Tasman
the last twenty four hours or so, Cricket Australia looking
at expanding their T twenty Big Bash competition and have
been chatting to us here in New Zealand about entering
a New Zealand based side.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
What say you, does this have merit?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Well, this isn't a new idea, perhaps the first time
New Zealand Cricket really making any sort of public statement
of substance about this, but it has been an idea
banded about for a while now and I guess I
kind of look at it akin to the situation with
netball in this country in the A and Z Premiership
and the talk of putting teams into that competition in
(11:23):
Australia and the pros and cons of that. Of course,
you get your top players playing in a much better competition,
but then you dilute the playing pool here in New Zealand,
which you know as it is a bit for netball.
Like with cricket perhaps not you know, a super strong
base of players. Yes, are they going to find teams?
And it seems from what Scott Weenick was saying to
(11:44):
Mike Cosking on zb this morning that they do still
want to have the Super Smash in some format. So
I guess the question becomes, what does the Super Smash
look like? Is it being cut down too much for
the sake of getting a team in the Big Bash?
Or can you do it and still run the Super
Smash in a kind of viable format. But it doesn't
sound like it's going to happen overnight. I think they're
talk in twenty twenty eight at the earliest. And of
(12:05):
course there's another party in this cricket Australia and said
yeah or NA yet either, So let's see. I mean,
I guess the other one that holds the ultimate kind
of control here about if a team from New Zealand
does ultimately enter.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Was interesting chatting before with former Black Cap Chris Kenzie's
a huge advocate of it, and sort of compared it
to the Warriors and their eventual entry into the NRL.
What was that thirty odd years ago? And look where
they are now, so time will tell that landscape and
cricket is changing every summer at Pheel Speaking of Trans
Tasman though, Clay did just see the score in the
Schoolboy Rugby Australia eighty one New Zealand forty eight one
(12:43):
on Earth has gone on here.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I had to sort of blink a couple of times
and make sure I was seeing the screen correctly. Yeah, yeah,
we do sometimes get these odd results, but this is
particularly left field, doesn't it. Just I don't think anyone,
you know, casual or otherwise in terms of rugby in
this country would look at that and say that's something
they expected. That was completely surprising to me to see that.
(13:07):
Australia have always had good talent at the younger age groups,
haven't they. But I mean it is still what third
fourth sport in that country in terms of athletes they
get to pick from. So yeah, really surprising to see that.
And I mean, I mean, I don't can't say I
follow the first fifteen competition in New Zealand as closely
as they used to it.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's pretty hard these days, isn't It's not on sky? Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yes, well, the Auckland's the Auckland sides. You know where
I'm not a our talent comes from.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So yeah, a real surprise.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
And I mean how much do you worry about it?
I don't. Yeah, it's hard to say whether you need
to really panic about it. But yeah, eighty odd points.
I mean they in their defense they did score forty
I think forty three of their own. But I mean
it was it's almost touch rugby, like, isn't it like
defense optional kind of material in that schoolboy competition at
(13:57):
international level?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, remind me of the old Holden Cup and Rugby League.
But yeah, like I don't want to poo poose these
young athletes as they sort of go on their way
and hope to make professional careers out of rugby it up.
But I do sort of think, you know, imagine if
we're eight years from now and the Bledislow finally is,
you know, God forbid reefed away across the Tasman. You
start to think back to results like this and the
under twenties that haven't been successful at a World Cup
(14:20):
for a week while, and go, jeeshu, we should have
done something perhaps a little bit different around our Pathways
program here in New Zealand, right, Clay, the netball the
story that just keeps on keeping on. And I know
this was fairly well litigated yesterday with Piney on Sports Fixed,
but fair bit of noise that there's been a big
meeting today as we record Dave Noline, Toto and Netball
(14:41):
in New Zealand trying to find a resolution to this mess.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
What's your what's your gut feel?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We want three weeks on from her initially being stood down,
are we close to the saga ending?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And what do you think? What way is it going
to go? Well?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I would say it has to because we have this
massive series. You know every year, the big series for
the selver Ferns is this constellation is the Constellation Cup
and it's approaching rapidly the seventeenth of October. It's not
that far away. Surely you have to have a resolution,
but the way this has been run managed from an
administration point of view, I really can't be sure if
(15:17):
we are going to have one. So I mean you
would you would hope, so wouldn't you? This is a
big series and something that you know, the longer drags
on the worst it's going to become. So if you'd
asked me before the third Test against South Africa, I
might have said that I wasn't that hopeful about Dame
Nolan Tota returning, but it sounds like she still wants
(15:40):
to come back. And after grace, you've got the statements
after that third Test, you know, and you've gone back
and watched that footage and listen to that audio multiple times.
You know she really wanted to say something that was
kind of impromptu and a very strong message. Now do
all the playing groups share those sentiments? That's the big question,
(16:03):
and ken they get to a point where the players
are happy, Netball New Zealand is happy and Dame Nol
in total ultimately is happy with what that environment is
going to look like.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I don't know. That's a lot of butts and maybes
there isn't that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
It's the million dollar question. It is, and it's how
like you like you alluded to it. It's how the
saga has played out. We've been operating kind of in
the dark in terms of information for a lot of it.
So I mean, you're very interesting, But where do we
get to sounds like later in the week we might
get a bit of information what that will be, how
much substance it will have who knows beating of X.
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Welcome into the Sports Fixed podcast nicularly here for Darcy
Watergrave keeping you up to date with everything sport locally
and internationally. Today is Tuesday, thirty September.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Coming up shortly, I'll be joined by former.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Blackcat Chris Ken's a New Zealand based side in Australia's
T twenty Men's and Women's Big Bash. Could it work
and what would it mean for our super Smash. I've
got some thoughts on the appointment of Jamie Joseph as
All Blacks fifteen coach and joining me in the chamber
is News Talks edb's Sports news director Clay Wilson. Plenty
(00:55):
to get to as always, so let's rap it in
other news. Let's get you across some of the big
sporting matters that have made news over the last twenty
four hours. News Yelling Cricket have pressed onto the one
foot about getting a team into Australia's Big Bash T
twenty competition Chief executive Scott Winning since they are investigating
(01:15):
the viability, but need buy in from the likes of
the Players Association and all the provinces, as well as
the blessing of their trans Tasman counterparts, when in claims
they also still want a credible domestically, albeit diluted by
an exodus of top players.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Stuper Smash would certainly continue in some form if we
were to put teams in the Big Bett, because it's
important to have a very very strong domestic competition in
New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
More on the soon with former black appt Chris Ken's. Meanwhile,
Blackburn's coach Alan Bunting believes it will be increasingly harder
to win the Women's Rugby World Cup. Returning home from
the UK with Bronze, Bunting's highlighted the growth of the
women's game and increasing professionalism of the top teams. He
reckons New Zealand has improved, but other nations are making
(02:01):
big progress too.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Woman Ruby's really shifted and as long as a sort
of fund or two teams now it's quite a few more.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Obviously is women's grow.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Hopefully there's a.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Lot more teams that are really competing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
For spots and a key change in Storm half ack
Jerome Hughes's schedule as he prepares for Sunday's NRL Grand
Final against the Broncos in Sydney. The Kibi's playmakers only
have been in two games across the past two months
after dealing with arm and shoulder injuries. That means last
year's Dally yem medallist will mess out on the competition's
highest honor and the ceremony tomorrow night.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
The good thing is I don't need to go to
Dallims this year, which is good for me. I haven't
played that well this year, so I didn't get invited
leading a vex.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
We've got just the ticket. It's Sports Vex powered Blay
News Talks ivy Well.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
An interesting story emerging across the Tasman in the last
twenty four hours. Cricket Australia looking at expanding their T
twenty Big Bash Cricket competition and have been chatting to
the good folk at New Zealand Cricket about entering a
New Zealand based men's and women's side. Joining me to
discuss this a good friend of the program former black
(03:08):
cap Chris Ken's good evening to you, Chrisnick. Look it
feels like this has been something that has been on
the table, off the table, and now on the table again.
What do we I think we've had fourteen editions of
the Big Bash across the Tasman What what say you? Is
this a good idea looking at this through the eyes
of New Zealand Cricket.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Absolutely, I've been an advocate of it for quite some time.
I know there was perhaps a little bit of hesitancy
on the New Zealand side as well about how you
can buy in our domestic super Smash competition given that
the Big Bash runs at the same time. But I
think where Franchise Cricket is heading and the recent developments
(03:50):
by Cricket Australia to sort of bring in the Boston
consulting group to sort of review their whole domestic plan
with a road leading to significant investment the Big Bash
that New Zealand there is a logical addition to that competition.
So I think it's a great thing.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Just talk us through from our listeners perspective. It might
not be aware what's the status solved the Big Bash
in australiacause, as I mentioned, you know burst onto the
scene with all this excitement around twenty eleven twenty twelve,
we have seen more and more competitions. You now look
at South Africa, they have won that runs basically at
the same time. So where are they at You say
they've got a consultant in are they Are they looking
(04:28):
at all options? Are they even sort of struggling we're
to look next?
Speaker 4 (04:33):
No, I think I think they've identified that.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
The key is getting the international players to play, and
you know the way that they structure the Big Bash
the international guys, the Australian guys only played gosh, only
maybe two or three games during that Big Batch season.
So I do think that there's an appetite to understand
how an Australian season would unfold. Given that you've got
(04:56):
those premium five Test matches, you know, in particular that
Boxing Day and New Year's Test. They've got that people
test there, so you know they're juggling a lot of
balls with how can work. But given I think the
fact that around the world now you know, there's significant investment,
private investment going into these leagues, I do think that
(05:18):
Cricket Australia want to try and get a piece of
that action. So you know, given the nature of what
they're doing. I heard Scott Winning talking today that you know,
to have New Zealand Cricket joined at the hip with
Cricket Australia off the back of this, I think that's
a super smart play to get that involved. And what
New Zealand Cricket now needs to try and work out
as how does a domestic offering work back here whilst
(05:38):
you've got a big Bash being played over there.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Yeah. We had Scott Wenank on the Mike Costing Breakfast
this morning saying in some way, shape or form, the
domestic Super Smash would continue if this was to go ahead. Chris,
Is there a danger though that such a move could
detract from our domestic competition, could dilute it?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
No? No, no, not at all, I would should we say?
The best example is the National the NRL over and
Aussie I mean the Warriors are a huge part of
that competition, you know, very well respected, especially off the
back of what they did for that competition during COVID
and you know, I just see the Big Bash has
been exactly the same as the NRL. And then off
(06:18):
the back of what happens domestically, well, I think during
that seasonal aspect of the December January. I would take
the New Zealand domestic competition back into those holiday areas.
I mean, you know, we used to go down and
play in alex We used to go down in South
Canterbury and to Maru. We played games in Levin whether
(06:39):
it's Napier into Talpo and to song Ray. So you know,
it takes just some thinking outside the box about how
that works. But taking those T twenty matches afternoon games
into holiday sort of hot spots and then in the evening,
you know, you've got to have that quality international cricket
coming from Australia via the Big Bash, of which New
Zealand's got a significant interest in. So I think if
(07:01):
they're able to bring it together, and again Scott sort
of said on the show today with Mike that you
know they're not rushing. We're looking at about a twenty
twenty eight sort of window here, so getting everything aligned
over the next couple of years to do that, I
think it's a great addition to the cricket calendar down
here in the Southern Hemisphere.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
What has your observation been then on on the status quo,
the Super Smash and it's current iteration when it goes
up against a Big.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Bash, it's just it's just quality of player. I don't
I don't think the New Zealand product has the ability
to attract those international players. Look, I know we continuously
punch above our way to New Zealand with you know,
the competitive nature of player that we put on the field,
so I don't think we'll ever lose that. But as
a as an offering, you know, our market is too small,
(07:50):
you know, to get players out here, there's not enough
money to pay them. So by attaching ourselves to Australia again,
I just come back to that NRL comparison, you know that,
you know that's what that's what we're looking to create.
And then having that sort of second tier of holiday
offerings with cricket that's out there that still get the
young guys coming through. Look when I say guys, I'm
(08:13):
also talking about the girls game and what's involved in
that because that runs parallel with the Big Bash as well.
But if you've got that men's and women's offering in
the New Zealand side of things, with young players coming through,
who then potentially if there's injuries into teams, you know
they're playing cricket and they'll step into possible contracts and
big bash. So look, you know, I do think it
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can work. I just need some clever thinking. And look,
you know the way us on a cricket has been
doing and going about their business. You know there's some
good people involved there now and I think that they'll
come up with a great solution.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
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Speaker 2 (08:51):
There be credit to Jamie Joseph for accepting an approach
from New Zealand Rugby to be the next All Blacks
fifteen coach All Blacks fifteen New Zealand b call it
what you like. They're an important developmental side where alignment
with the All Blacks the top team is critical. It's
not really about results, I mean, can anyone remember how
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they went last year. It's about exposing the next wave
of talent to international rugby, getting them test ready and
perhaps juggling the egos of a select few who have
fallen out of favor with the top side. From the
outside looking in, one could wonder if there is an
awkwardness for Jamie Joseph and taking on a role where
he has to communicate with and ultimately help Scott Robinson.
(09:35):
Let's not forget Joseph had to play himself at being
the next All Blacks coach before Razer was appointed.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
In twenty twenty three, I put the very.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Question of Jamie Joseph on our sports talk program. He
laughed me away and that's fair enough. He went on
to say, that's professional rugby and professional coaching. Joseph seemed
genuinely excited by the opportunity of unearthing and helping develop
the next big thing or big things. Look at cam
ROYGANDT for example. Now he toured with the All Blacks
(10:05):
fifteen in twenty twenty two. He was an All Black
by twenty twenty three, and already what is he thirteen
tests into his career. He feels like one of, if
not our most important player here in twenty twenty five.
So again I say credit to Jamie Joseph and credit
to New Zealand rugby. I'm fascinated to see what he
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can do with the hell.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
The chamber is now in session on Sportsfax.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, time to enter the chamber, kick around a few
sporting topics with one of my esteemed colleagues from the
NZME Sports department and what a pleasure it is to
welcome into the chamber our Sports News director Clay Wilson.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Can I Clay Goday Neck The pleasure is all mine?
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Look an interesting story first up emerging across the Tasman
the last twenty four hours or so, Cricket Australia looking
at expanding their T twenty Big Bash competition and have
been chatting to us here in New Zealand about entering
a New Zealand based side.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
What say you, does this have merit?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
Well, this isn't a new idea, perhaps the first time
New Zealand Cricket really making any sort of public statement
of substance about this, but it has been an idea
banded about for a while now and I guess I
kind of look at it akin to the situation with
netball in this country in the A and Z Premiership
and the talk of putting teams into that competition in
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Australia and the pros and cons of that. Of course,
you get your top players playing in a much better competition,
but then you dilute the playing pool here in New Zealand,
which you know as it is a bit for netball.
Like with cricket perhaps not you know, a super strong
base of players. Yes, are they going to find teams?
And it seems from what Scott Weenick was saying to
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Mike Cosking on zb this morning that they do still
want to have the Super Smash in some format. So
I guess the question becomes, what does the Super Smash
look like? Is it being cut down too much for
the sake of getting a team in the Big Bash?
Or can you do it and still run the Super
Smash in a kind of viable format. But it doesn't
sound like it's going to happen overnight. I think they're
talk in twenty twenty eight at the earliest. And of
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course there's another party in this cricket Australia and said
yeah or NA yet either, So let's see. I mean,
I guess the other one that holds the ultimate kind
of control here about if a team from New Zealand
does ultimately enter.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah, a lot of moving parts.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Was interesting chatting before with former Black Cap Chris Kenzie's
a huge advocate of it, and sort of compared it
to the Warriors and their eventual entry into the NRL.
What was that thirty odd years ago? And look where
they are now, so time will tell that landscape and
cricket is changing every summer at Pheel Speaking of Trans
Tasman though, Clay did just see the score in the
Schoolboy Rugby Australia eighty one New Zealand forty eight one
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on Earth has gone on here.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I had to sort of blink a couple of times
and make sure I was seeing the screen correctly. Yeah, yeah,
we do sometimes get these odd results, but this is
particularly left field, doesn't it. Just I don't think anyone,
you know, casual or otherwise in terms of rugby in
this country would look at that and say that's something
they expected. That was completely surprising to me to see that.
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Australia have always had good talent at the younger age groups,
haven't they. But I mean it is still what third
fourth sport in that country in terms of athletes they
get to pick from. So yeah, really surprising to see that.
And I mean, I mean, I don't can't say I
follow the first fifteen competition in New Zealand as closely
as they used to it.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
It's pretty hard these days, isn't It's not on sky? Yes?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
Yes, well, the Auckland's the Auckland sides. You know where
I'm not a our talent comes from.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
So yeah, a real surprise.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
And I mean how much do you worry about it?
I don't. Yeah, it's hard to say whether you need
to really panic about it. But yeah, eighty odd points.
I mean they in their defense they did score forty
I think forty three of their own. But I mean
it was it's almost touch rugby, like, isn't it like
defense optional kind of material in that schoolboy competition at
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international level?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah, remind me of the old Holden Cup and Rugby League.
But yeah, like I don't want to poo poose these
young athletes as they sort of go on their way
and hope to make professional careers out of rugby it up.
But I do sort of think, you know, imagine if
we're eight years from now and the Bledislow finally is,
you know, God forbid reefed away across the Tasman. You
start to think back to results like this and the
under twenties that haven't been successful at a World Cup
(14:20):
for a week while, and go, jeeshu, we should have
done something perhaps a little bit different around our Pathways
program here in New Zealand, right, Clay, the netball the
story that just keeps on keeping on. And I know
this was fairly well litigated yesterday with Piney on Sports Fixed,
but fair bit of noise that there's been a big
meeting today as we record Dave Noline, Toto and Netball
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in New Zealand trying to find a resolution to this mess.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
What's your what's your gut feel?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Now?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
We want three weeks on from her initially being stood down,
are we close to the saga ending?
Speaker 3 (14:53):
And what do you think? What way is it going
to go? Well?
Speaker 5 (14:56):
I would say it has to because we have this
massive series. You know every year, the big series for
the selver Ferns is this constellation is the Constellation Cup
and it's approaching rapidly the seventeenth of October. It's not
that far away. Surely you have to have a resolution,
but the way this has been run managed from an
administration point of view, I really can't be sure if
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we are going to have one. So I mean you
would you would hope, so wouldn't you? This is a
big series and something that you know, the longer drags
on the worst it's going to become. So if you'd
asked me before the third Test against South Africa, I
might have said that I wasn't that hopeful about Dame
Nolan Tota returning, but it sounds like she still wants
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to come back. And after grace, you've got the statements
after that third Test, you know, and you've gone back
and watched that footage and listen to that audio multiple times.
You know she really wanted to say something that was
kind of impromptu and a very strong message. Now do
all the playing groups share those sentiments? That's the big question,
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and ken they get to a point where the players
are happy, Netball New Zealand is happy and Dame Nol
in total ultimately is happy with what that environment is
going to look like.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
I don't know. That's a lot of butts and maybes
there isn't that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
It's the million dollar question. It is, and it's how
like you like you alluded to it. It's how the
saga has played out. We've been operating kind of in
the dark in terms of information for a lot of it.
So I mean, you're very interesting, But where do we
get to sounds like later in the week we might
get a bit of information what that will be, how
much substance it will have who knows beating of X.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
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