July 30, 2025 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Wednesday July 30th 2025, Lima Sopoaga is back in New Zealand and will line up for Waikato in the NPC. He joins the Fix to explain why and how his 8 years playing professional ruby across England, France and Japan molded him and what he hopes to contribute to the Mooloo cause.
What are we so forgiving when it comes to forgiving sports stars? Bev Priestman was involved in an Olympic scandal but popped out the other side to coach the women’s Phoenix team. D’Arcy doesn’t know either, he just ponders.
In the Chamber, D’Arcy and Hamish McKay, long-time sportscaster, shoot the breeze over the big sports stories of the day. And pink AJ5s.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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is Darcy Waldergrave. This is your home of all the
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Thank you very much TJ. Gardner Home for coming to
the party with this. They are New Zealand's most trusted
home builders. It's a Wednesday at the thirtieth of July
twenty twenty five. Wind up for you today we'll have
(00:43):
a chat with Limaspewana. You's going to be playing rugby
for the Mighty Mulus in this NPC season, and I'll
shot off at the mouth around sportspeople. Possibly being the
most forgiven humans on the planet. It doesn't matter what
you do end time, people always say it's okay, you've
(01:05):
paid your dues, we forgive you. Will be joined in
the chamber by Hamish Mackay as we throw around some
of the big sports toys of the day. So let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Then spoken sports swipes Today, Robert Penney is back for
more the SI Rugby Pacific winning Crusaders coach needed some time,
but eventually decided that himself and his coaching gang of
four would return to defense sorry sorry to win the
title again.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
There's a lot of talent in that coaching room and
there's you know, there's people that are hungry.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
For to expand their wings, I guess, and yeah, we'll
just get through this one.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Their priestman has been confirmed as the coach of the
Phoenix women's team, the Wahenix. Once he starts winning titles, right,
I'm sure we'll forget the regrettable drone saga from last
year's Olympic Games lessons. I've just got a really, really
good feeling about the club, the world class facilities.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
And I'll be forever thank for to Rob, Dormy and
Billy forgiving me this chance.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And Black Cat's head coach Robert Walter is stealing himself
for his first Test match in charge the Zimbabwe men
that are in his cross heirs, and he's hoping they
provide a pitch with a bit more spice than your
traditional Zim debt.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Normally it's quite slow and low here, but that wasn't
the case for those two Test matches, so We're hoping
that it's the Sam again.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
First ball is due at eight pm tonight and there
are some spoken sports swipes colated you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Scando Bean, It's Sportsfix with Dancie Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm always fascinated by the fact that in the wonderful
wide world of sport, athletes are given a lot of rope.
I'm talking about forgiveness. I bring this up because Bev
Prieseman has been named as the women's Phoenix coach coming
up for the net couple of years. We all know
(03:11):
that what Bev Pressman was involved in last year before
the Olympics was poor. That's probably the nicest way to
put it. When you're engaged in cheating at an Olympic level.
I'm unsure how much of a pass you get, how
long you get in a role before forgiveness is offered
(03:33):
up by the fans and the sport. Plainly, Bev has
been forgiven. We don't know how deeply she was involved
in that drone scandal, but she was the coach. She
must have known something. She's paid her due, She's traveled
through the length of her suspension and now she finds
(03:55):
herself back in the eye of the Hurricane again coaching
the Woman's Phoenix side. But if you look back of
a history of sport, the amount of players, the amount
of coaches that have been caught in compromising positions, be
it against the law of the game or the law
of the land, it's amazing how many of them come
(04:18):
back and people forgive and forget. There are plenty of names.
I don't want to go through them all, but I'm
sure it won't take you long to work out how
we are extraordinarily forgiving of our sporting stars. I'm not
entirely sure if that is a message though, we want
(04:40):
to send out.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Engender dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's Sports Vex with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Joy Now on me You Fix A podcast by Lima Sopplewanga.
It's been eight years of playing professionally overseas, finds themselves
back now playing for the White or playing for the
Mulu Lema Welcome. What brings you home?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, my wife and three kids moved home in the
second year of my contract in Japan, and so they've
stayed here for the last year. And I've kind of
gone back and forth, and yeah, I've kind of just
maybe decided that I'll hang around in New Zealand for
a little bit and see what happens and just be
around my kids, you know, like for me that my
(05:27):
kids are the most important thing and watching them grow up.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
So yeah, I've got a got a call from Ross
and he's asked if I help him out. So that's
what I've decided to do.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Ross Felipo being the head coach of the Mulu's Whitecatle,
he's offered a position, a role. What does he expect
from you? Why did he approach you?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Do you think, Lina, Yeah, I guess it's similar to
to crude.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
And you know, you've got a lot of young guys
coming through itm Cup these days, and you know, maybe
I can share some of my experiences with them and
help these guys on their way to you know, bigger
and better things. Some of them and this team will
go and wear the black jersey and some will go
overseas and hopefully I can shed some light on some
(06:13):
of that and just help them on their way.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And also learn from them too.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And yes, it's great to be back involved with the game,
and it's exciting to see how the season one unfold
and I'm pretty excited for it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Are you comfortable in that space as an old school
guidance type of characters, something sits well with you?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh yeah, one hundred per mean, I've been lucky as
a young kid as well. I've had great older guys
in the locker room who looked after me and helped me.
And I think it's when you have those experience as
a young fella. The thing they always say to you
when you're young is has passed on the messages, you know,
like help those young guys come through. And it's now
(06:57):
my turn to do that because I've had some special
people help me out, you know, your lives of sort
of honor the mer life Ronnie Solo when I first
started at the Lions, guys like that, and then went
out to the Landers, and you know, Adam Thompson and
Chris King, Jason Rudlige, all those kind of guys have
(07:20):
sort of shared their knowledge of me over the years,
and even guys overseas in France and England and Japan.
So I think that it's a great opportunity for me
to do the same for some of these guys and
help even some of the senior guys in the Whitecattle
Squad who who are established now and just helped help
them even more. What does our and Crudin make of this.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You're a couple of old stages and they're charging ford
all that you mentioned Ananhu before. You're never too old
to play the game, right, What is he closing in
on seventy years old? That's kidding, but he's still playing
so you're still relevant, right, you can still put a
decent shift in.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, And that's all we're here to do. You know,
we're not just here to make up numbers. We're here
to compete and.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Do our best for the team and when win a
traphy for Waycottle and that's what I think we're here
to do.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And reconnect them with Cruds is amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You know, we're both at similar stages in our lives,
both a little bit older and got kids and sort
of lived a little bit around the world and had
a broader perspective on life and footy. So it's awesome
to reconnect with Firm especially he's always been a big
help in my career and someone I've always looked up to.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
When you look back lean at your time overseas and
you played in three distinctively different countries in the way
they apply their rugby if you could, I know, it's
eight years and you can't really distill it into a sentience.
But looking through the UK, looking through France, looking through Japan,
what are the key lessons out of playing in those
various countries. I'm sure they gave you something very different
(08:57):
with each experience.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I think for me personally, as someone who come through
the bubble of being in all blacks and things like that,
is like the perspective it gave me was that rugby's.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Just a small part of your life.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It's and I think you can get lost in that,
you know, chasing about Jersey or or being into Barabian
and things like that, because in New Zealand, you know,
ruby consume you. But for me, it's, you know, like
rugby is just what we do, it's not who we are,
and that for me sort of help shape my life
and the way I see it now. And it's a
it's a small part of my life and that's something
(09:34):
I really enjoy, but it's not the be.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
All and end or for me, and it's not who
I am as a person. It's just something that I
do for a living and that's really helped me along
this journey.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Please, when you're giving advice to young players, can you
tell them not to up sticks and run off to
the other side of the world in their mid twenties.
I mean, we're still suffering from that one leaven that
was that worthwhile? That decision you made in the fullness
of time?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Did you do the right thing? I in my heart,
that was what I wanted to do. I became an
all Black.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I chased that dream, but also as a as a kid,
I read books and you know, watched TV and seen
places on TV that I wish I could have gone,
and I wanted to use Arabia as avenue to see
the world.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Like, I've got a daughter now who's seven eight in September,
and I think she's been to twenty seven different countries
and that to me is just as important as as
putting on a black jersey. And yeah, so for me,
I think it's been able to give me a great
experience around the world and helped shape me for the better.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
The Chamber is now in session on sports.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Faxmus you know, Yeah, he made on fantastic great to
be in the chamber.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, wonder.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Afford to have you in. You're discussing a couple of
big sporting issues. I suppose first out what happened last
night and this morning with natball. They've got broadcast rights.
It's free to air. It's only for a year, and
I suppose they're not getting much money on presuming because
I've been pretty tight lipped on that. What's the balance
do you think between eyeballs and cash?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Well, stop gap measure, isn't it If it's only for
a year, you would like to see it long. But
you know, I go back to the days when I
always felt that sport anything that was free to air,
and we grew up on this and and I'm going
to go seventies, eighties, even through to the nineties where
it was always free to air and everybody was talking about,
you know, whatever sport it was. So look, I don't
know if it's a fine line, because at the end
(11:35):
of the day, the players want to get paid, and
those who who are inspired by being a professional athlete,
that solves that problem. But those ones who don't see
it in dollar terms at the moment, the youngsters looking
at it and they just get to see it all
the time.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
I see it, be it.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
That's so I kind of need to grow it again.
We need to grow it again. Perhaps that is the answer.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The interesting thing with the eligibility around the netballers as well,
and that was touched on. It's been a busy line
of ten days for the ball asn't it. The players
go away, make some money overseas and come back again.
I'm still not sure where they sit netballs. I don't
think quite big enough to get away with that, and
they need to feed from the bottom up. There needs
(12:22):
to be space for players, maybe not just tapping the
really good ones. Is there a space for the absolute
crash hot players to do.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That, to be off shore?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah, I definitely think.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Look, I was going to say Netball New Zealand in
the last couple of weeks in terms of you know
the old column inches or radio time where they certainly
you know, blind their budget or you know that somebody
will be getting it because you know, if you've been
talked about. It's a good thing, isn't it in many respects?
Because it's raising a whole lot of a whole lot
of issues. But I couldn't see why we weren't letting
(12:55):
those players go at some stage.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
At least some parameters around this, but they've been pretty
vague around the parameters. I suppose gives them a way
to back out of there. But you'd kind of consider
how important the player is to the team, and that's
probably the only boundary you need to have, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:11):
I think so, I think so.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Look, I look, I just think you can't really sort
of stand in the way of somebody's ability to earn
a dollar if you're not giving them money.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yourself, And that's that's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
So but I do think we still need to pick
our best players, and you know, you're always going to
have a different set of rules for what it's like
the All.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Wax, isn't it. Now It's almost like they to have
what they call a sabbatic or, which is completely incorrect.
And people are tired of me talking about that because
they're not having a rest. They're just going to play
more rugby. They basically, if you've been playing for the
All Wax long enough, it's almost like a given, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Look, does that does that work? I think it's worked
quite well for Jordi Barrett going off to Lens. I
think that was a great experience. I'm not so sure
about the ones that shoot up to Japan. But yeah,
look don't don't. I really don't have a problem with it.
You just I think we've got enough depth of talent
and all codes to let this. This happened to a
(14:09):
certain degree, but you're always going to have You can't
have a set of rules.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
You can have a set of rules for a Dan
Carter and a set of rules for everybody else. That's
just reality, that's just life.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
If you're that good, that's why it works. And I
like the way cricket have dealt with us over the
last few years. They've been extraordinarily flexible around this, very
light in their feet. What are we going to do?
Because of course we've got the T twenty situation, which
is it could rip the heart out of the Zeland cricket.
But they've got a balance, they're working through it, and
every time something changes, they're willing to take a look
(14:42):
at what it means to them, what it means to
the player, what it means to the fan base.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
And I think what you see there with the cricket
too is a little bit of that. Well, you know,
it might be best.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Look, you're still going to continue to play for New
Zealand and the various formats of the game, but it
might be best that you're not contracted because you've got
this game. I think there's a bit you know, there's
some wheeling and dealing around that, isn't there what you've
got to be as.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
An administrative in this state and they's not cut and drying.
You play a sport in the winter or in the summer,
and that's and then you move on. Now you play
it all over the shop. You play it a number
of different leagues all over the globe.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
So that's the next question.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You're like, holy heck, didn't know there was a book
arrest league, but you know over cricket.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
But anyway, if there's money, there's a league.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Talking about women's sports. When we start off with the
net ball here, they've got some more tests coming up
they've confirmed. Those are three against England, a couple against Scotland.
You add that to the Australians, to the South Africans
of the year, it's good to see they're making some
waves that way and they're getting international experience for some
(15:44):
of the lesser players. If you're ahead of the Common
Games next year, it's huge.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Oh that was for what sport does miss because I
just I looked.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Down momentarily as you go and looked at you're at
your your shoes, which are magnificent, but they.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Are a slight shade of yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Five it's a very light pink with a bit of blue.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
So I completely.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
And answer to your question, Netbull, that's magnificent and we
need it. Yeah, we do more freeom I think I'm
going down there and you know, when it's free.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
To air, I'll watch it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But SkyTV have still got right right to the black dress.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
So they've kind of got a bit of ah okay.
So yeah, so they've got the top stellion in the barn. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
They can't win with carry on with women's sport and
Bee of Priestman's been given the job after her year
being banned after the drone scandal with Canada. She's the
Phoenix women's coach the next two years. It's a poorly
kept secret. It's out now. That's how long do you
(16:51):
give people to sit in disgrace before you forgive? Forget,
move on?
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Well, clearly from the Phoenix position of things, what is it,
fifteen or eighty months. It feels a bit like, you know,
the old guy who was just the odd girl at
your high school, who was a bit of a bad
and then come along year thirteen or seven form or
what have you called it. They ended up being a
prefect because you know, you wanted them in there, you know,
because they knew all this, They knew all the tricks
(17:17):
of the trade. So maybe you know, maybe bears still
got some more to bring to the table, be very
good and just got a relationship. When you say at football,
being there done that. So I suppose you have to
if it's the best person for.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
The person of the job. I think I think at
some stage you've got to go.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Well, yeah, she clearly, from what I can understand from
the process around that, she knew what was going on.
But I don't think we hold it against her forever.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I think, right, there's no point in having a drone.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
You're not going to pass it on to the coach. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
See, you look at other great sports people who have
committed crimes against the game, and they've been forgiven, like
Steve Smith, for example, with the sandpaper game. You've got
shamee warm with the diarytic situation. Severa Reese got himself
to do a bit of grief a number of years back.
We're reasonably good at forgiving Gee, even lou Vince and
(18:08):
finally got off the hawk as well. It's kind of
part of humanity, is it.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I think so? I think I quite like that. That's
quite deep.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Thanks very much for joining us, and I'll do it again.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
I'll sluck it. Oh the Lord.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
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home builders. It's a Wednesday at the thirtieth of July
twenty twenty five. Wind up for you today we'll have
(00:43):
a chat with Limaspewana. You's going to be playing rugby
for the Mighty Mulus in this NPC season, and I'll
shot off at the mouth around sportspeople. Possibly being the
most forgiven humans on the planet. It doesn't matter what
you do end time, people always say it's okay, you've
(01:05):
paid your dues, we forgive you. Will be joined in
the chamber by Hamish Mackay as we throw around some
of the big sports toys of the day. So let's
do it.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
In other news.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Then spoken sports swipes Today, Robert Penney is back for
more the SI Rugby Pacific winning Crusaders coach needed some time,
but eventually decided that himself and his coaching gang of
four would return to defense sorry sorry to win the
title again.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
There's a lot of talent in that coaching room and
there's you know, there's people that are hungry.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
For to expand their wings, I guess, and yeah, we'll
just get through this one.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Their priestman has been confirmed as the coach of the
Phoenix women's team, the Wahenix. Once he starts winning titles, right,
I'm sure we'll forget the regrettable drone saga from last
year's Olympic Games lessons. I've just got a really, really
good feeling about the club, the world class facilities.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
And I'll be forever thank for to Rob, Dormy and
Billy forgiving me this chance.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
And Black Cat's head coach Robert Walter is stealing himself
for his first Test match in charge the Zimbabwe men
that are in his cross heirs, and he's hoping they
provide a pitch with a bit more spice than your
traditional Zim debt.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Normally it's quite slow and low here, but that wasn't
the case for those two Test matches, so We're hoping
that it's the Sam again.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
First ball is due at eight pm tonight and there
are some spoken sports swipes colated you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Scando Bean, It's Sportsfix with Dancie Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm always fascinated by the fact that in the wonderful
wide world of sport, athletes are given a lot of rope.
I'm talking about forgiveness. I bring this up because Bev
Prieseman has been named as the women's Phoenix coach coming
up for the net couple of years. We all know
(03:11):
that what Bev Pressman was involved in last year before
the Olympics was poor. That's probably the nicest way to
put it. When you're engaged in cheating at an Olympic level.
I'm unsure how much of a pass you get, how
long you get in a role before forgiveness is offered
(03:33):
up by the fans and the sport. Plainly, Bev has
been forgiven. We don't know how deeply she was involved
in that drone scandal, but she was the coach. She
must have known something. She's paid her due, She's traveled
through the length of her suspension and now she finds
(03:55):
herself back in the eye of the Hurricane again coaching
the Woman's Phoenix side. But if you look back of
a history of sport, the amount of players, the amount
of coaches that have been caught in compromising positions, be
it against the law of the game or the law
of the land, it's amazing how many of them come
(04:18):
back and people forgive and forget. There are plenty of names.
I don't want to go through them all, but I'm
sure it won't take you long to work out how
we are extraordinarily forgiving of our sporting stars. I'm not
entirely sure if that is a message though, we want
(04:40):
to send out.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Engender dissecting the sporting agenda.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It's Sports Vex with Darcy Waldegrave.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Joy Now on me You Fix A podcast by Lima Sopplewanga.
It's been eight years of playing professionally overseas, finds themselves
back now playing for the White or playing for the
Mulu Lema Welcome. What brings you home?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Yeah, my wife and three kids moved home in the
second year of my contract in Japan, and so they've
stayed here for the last year. And I've kind of
gone back and forth, and yeah, I've kind of just
maybe decided that I'll hang around in New Zealand for
a little bit and see what happens and just be
around my kids, you know, like for me that my
(05:27):
kids are the most important thing and watching them grow up.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
So yeah, I've got a got a call from Ross
and he's asked if I help him out. So that's
what I've decided to do.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Ross Felipo being the head coach of the Mulu's Whitecatle,
he's offered a position, a role. What does he expect
from you? Why did he approach you?
Speaker 5 (05:48):
Do you think, Lina, Yeah, I guess it's similar to
to crude.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
And you know, you've got a lot of young guys
coming through itm Cup these days, and you know, maybe
I can share some of my experiences with them and
help these guys on their way to you know, bigger
and better things. Some of them and this team will
go and wear the black jersey and some will go
overseas and hopefully I can shed some light on some
(06:13):
of that and just help them on their way.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
And also learn from them too.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
And yes, it's great to be back involved with the game,
and it's exciting to see how the season one unfold
and I'm pretty excited for it.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Are you comfortable in that space as an old school
guidance type of characters, something sits well with you?
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Oh yeah, one hundred per mean, I've been lucky as
a young kid as well. I've had great older guys
in the locker room who looked after me and helped me.
And I think it's when you have those experience as
a young fella. The thing they always say to you
when you're young is has passed on the messages, you know,
like help those young guys come through. And it's now
(06:57):
my turn to do that because I've had some special
people help me out, you know, your lives of sort
of honor the mer life Ronnie Solo when I first
started at the Lions, guys like that, and then went
out to the Landers, and you know, Adam Thompson and
Chris King, Jason Rudlige, all those kind of guys have
(07:20):
sort of shared their knowledge of me over the years,
and even guys overseas in France and England and Japan.
So I think that it's a great opportunity for me
to do the same for some of these guys and
help even some of the senior guys in the Whitecattle
Squad who who are established now and just helped help
them even more. What does our and Crudin make of this.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
You're a couple of old stages and they're charging ford
all that you mentioned Ananhu before. You're never too old
to play the game, right, What is he closing in
on seventy years old? That's kidding, but he's still playing
so you're still relevant, right, you can still put a
decent shift in.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Yeah, And that's all we're here to do. You know,
we're not just here to make up numbers. We're here
to compete and.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
Do our best for the team and when win a
traphy for Waycottle and that's what I think we're here
to do.
Speaker 5 (08:10):
And reconnect them with Cruds is amazing.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
You know, we're both at similar stages in our lives,
both a little bit older and got kids and sort
of lived a little bit around the world and had
a broader perspective on life and footy. So it's awesome
to reconnect with Firm especially he's always been a big
help in my career and someone I've always looked up to.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
When you look back lean at your time overseas and
you played in three distinctively different countries in the way
they apply their rugby if you could, I know, it's
eight years and you can't really distill it into a sentience.
But looking through the UK, looking through France, looking through Japan,
what are the key lessons out of playing in those
various countries. I'm sure they gave you something very different
(08:57):
with each experience.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
I think for me personally, as someone who come through
the bubble of being in all blacks and things like that,
is like the perspective it gave me was that rugby's.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Just a small part of your life.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
It's and I think you can get lost in that,
you know, chasing about Jersey or or being into Barabian
and things like that, because in New Zealand, you know,
ruby consume you. But for me, it's, you know, like
rugby is just what we do, it's not who we are,
and that for me sort of help shape my life
and the way I see it now. And it's a
it's a small part of my life and that's something
(09:34):
I really enjoy, but it's not the be.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
All and end or for me, and it's not who
I am as a person. It's just something that I
do for a living and that's really helped me along
this journey.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Please, when you're giving advice to young players, can you
tell them not to up sticks and run off to
the other side of the world in their mid twenties.
I mean, we're still suffering from that one leaven that
was that worthwhile? That decision you made in the fullness
of time?
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Did you do the right thing? I in my heart,
that was what I wanted to do. I became an
all Black.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
I chased that dream, but also as a as a kid,
I read books and you know, watched TV and seen
places on TV that I wish I could have gone,
and I wanted to use Arabia as avenue to see
the world.
Speaker 5 (10:20):
And that's exactly what I did.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Like, I've got a daughter now who's seven eight in September,
and I think she's been to twenty seven different countries
and that to me is just as important as as
putting on a black jersey. And yeah, so for me,
I think it's been able to give me a great
experience around the world and helped shape me for the better.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
The Chamber is now in session on sports.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
Faxmus you know, Yeah, he made on fantastic great to
be in the chamber.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
All right, wonder.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Afford to have you in. You're discussing a couple of
big sporting issues. I suppose first out what happened last
night and this morning with natball. They've got broadcast rights.
It's free to air. It's only for a year, and
I suppose they're not getting much money on presuming because
I've been pretty tight lipped on that. What's the balance
do you think between eyeballs and cash?
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Well, stop gap measure, isn't it If it's only for
a year, you would like to see it long. But
you know, I go back to the days when I
always felt that sport anything that was free to air,
and we grew up on this and and I'm going
to go seventies, eighties, even through to the nineties where
it was always free to air and everybody was talking about,
you know, whatever sport it was. So look, I don't
know if it's a fine line, because at the end
(11:35):
of the day, the players want to get paid, and
those who who are inspired by being a professional athlete,
that solves that problem. But those ones who don't see
it in dollar terms at the moment, the youngsters looking
at it and they just get to see it all
the time.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
I see it, be it.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
That's so I kind of need to grow it again.
We need to grow it again. Perhaps that is the answer.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
The interesting thing with the eligibility around the netballers as well,
and that was touched on. It's been a busy line
of ten days for the ball asn't it. The players
go away, make some money overseas and come back again.
I'm still not sure where they sit netballs. I don't
think quite big enough to get away with that, and
they need to feed from the bottom up. There needs
(12:22):
to be space for players, maybe not just tapping the
really good ones. Is there a space for the absolute
crash hot players to do.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
That, to be off shore?
Speaker 7 (12:32):
Yeah, I definitely think.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
Look, I was going to say Netball New Zealand in
the last couple of weeks in terms of you know
the old column inches or radio time where they certainly
you know, blind their budget or you know that somebody
will be getting it because you know, if you've been
talked about. It's a good thing, isn't it in many respects?
Because it's raising a whole lot of a whole lot
of issues. But I couldn't see why we weren't letting
(12:55):
those players go at some stage.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
At least some parameters around this, but they've been pretty
vague around the parameters. I suppose gives them a way
to back out of there. But you'd kind of consider
how important the player is to the team, and that's
probably the only boundary you need to have, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (13:11):
I think so, I think so.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
Look, I look, I just think you can't really sort
of stand in the way of somebody's ability to earn
a dollar if you're not giving them money.
Speaker 7 (13:21):
Yourself, And that's that's the nature of the beast.
Speaker 6 (13:23):
So but I do think we still need to pick
our best players, and you know, you're always going to
have a different set of rules for what it's like
the All.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Wax, isn't it. Now It's almost like they to have
what they call a sabbatic or, which is completely incorrect.
And people are tired of me talking about that because
they're not having a rest. They're just going to play
more rugby. They basically, if you've been playing for the
All Wax long enough, it's almost like a given, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (13:47):
Look, does that does that work? I think it's worked
quite well for Jordi Barrett going off to Lens. I
think that was a great experience. I'm not so sure
about the ones that shoot up to Japan. But yeah,
look don't don't. I really don't have a problem with it.
You just I think we've got enough depth of talent
and all codes to let this. This happened to a
(14:09):
certain degree, but you're always going to have You can't
have a set of rules.
Speaker 7 (14:13):
You can have a set of rules for a Dan
Carter and a set of rules for everybody else. That's
just reality, that's just life.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
If you're that good, that's why it works. And I
like the way cricket have dealt with us over the
last few years. They've been extraordinarily flexible around this, very
light in their feet. What are we going to do?
Because of course we've got the T twenty situation, which
is it could rip the heart out of the Zeland cricket.
But they've got a balance, they're working through it, and
every time something changes, they're willing to take a look
(14:42):
at what it means to them, what it means to
the player, what it means to the fan base.
Speaker 7 (14:46):
And I think what you see there with the cricket
too is a little bit of that. Well, you know,
it might be best.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
Look, you're still going to continue to play for New
Zealand and the various formats of the game, but it
might be best that you're not contracted because you've got
this game. I think there's a bit you know, there's
some wheeling and dealing around that, isn't there what you've
got to be as.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
An administrative in this state and they's not cut and drying.
You play a sport in the winter or in the summer,
and that's and then you move on. Now you play
it all over the shop. You play it a number
of different leagues all over the globe.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
So that's the next question.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
You're like, holy heck, didn't know there was a book
arrest league, but you know over cricket.
Speaker 7 (15:20):
But anyway, if there's money, there's a league.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
Talking about women's sports. When we start off with the
net ball here, they've got some more tests coming up
they've confirmed. Those are three against England, a couple against Scotland.
You add that to the Australians, to the South Africans
of the year, it's good to see they're making some
waves that way and they're getting international experience for some
(15:44):
of the lesser players. If you're ahead of the Common
Games next year, it's huge.
Speaker 7 (15:48):
Oh that was for what sport does miss because I
just I looked.
Speaker 6 (15:52):
Down momentarily as you go and looked at you're at
your your shoes, which are magnificent, but they.
Speaker 7 (15:59):
Are a slight shade of yeah, the.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Five it's a very light pink with a bit of blue.
Speaker 7 (16:07):
So I completely.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
And answer to your question, Netbull, that's magnificent and we
need it. Yeah, we do more freeom I think I'm
going down there and you know, when it's free.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
To air, I'll watch it.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
But SkyTV have still got right right to the black dress.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
So they've kind of got a bit of ah okay.
So yeah, so they've got the top stellion in the barn. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
They can't win with carry on with women's sport and
Bee of Priestman's been given the job after her year
being banned after the drone scandal with Canada. She's the
Phoenix women's coach the next two years. It's a poorly
kept secret. It's out now. That's how long do you
(16:51):
give people to sit in disgrace before you forgive? Forget,
move on?
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Well, clearly from the Phoenix position of things, what is it,
fifteen or eighty months. It feels a bit like, you know,
the old guy who was just the odd girl at
your high school, who was a bit of a bad
and then come along year thirteen or seven form or
what have you called it. They ended up being a
prefect because you know, you wanted them in there, you know,
because they knew all this, They knew all the tricks
(17:17):
of the trade. So maybe you know, maybe bears still
got some more to bring to the table, be very
good and just got a relationship. When you say at football,
being there done that. So I suppose you have to
if it's the best person for.
Speaker 7 (17:29):
The person of the job. I think I think at
some stage you've got to go.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
Well, yeah, she clearly, from what I can understand from
the process around that, she knew what was going on.
But I don't think we hold it against her forever.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I think, right, there's no point in having a drone.
Speaker 7 (17:45):
You're not going to pass it on to the coach. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
See, you look at other great sports people who have
committed crimes against the game, and they've been forgiven, like
Steve Smith, for example, with the sandpaper game. You've got
shamee warm with the diarytic situation. Severa Reese got himself
to do a bit of grief a number of years back.
We're reasonably good at forgiving Gee, even lou Vince and
(18:08):
finally got off the hawk as well. It's kind of
part of humanity, is it.
Speaker 7 (18:12):
I think so? I think I quite like that. That's
quite deep.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Thanks very much for joining us, and I'll do it again.
Speaker 7 (18:20):
I'll sluck it. Oh the Lord.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
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Speaker 3 (18:29):
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