May 28, 2025 • 19 mins
On Sports Fix with D'Arcy Waldegrave for Wednesday 28th May 2025 - tired of sideline referee bullying and the rest of the vitriol aimed at volunteer officials, Horowhenua-Kapiti Rugby Union introduced a hard-line policy. If behaviour continues, we’ll cancel next weekend’s senior rugby. CEO Corey Kennett joins the Fix to explain the firm hand.
D’Arc has a moan around, well, moaning F1 drivers, the entitled rich kids that most of them are.
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Fix podcast for today, Wednesday, the twenty eighth of May
twenty twenty four. My name is Darcy Waldgrave. Congratulations, you've
found your bite size home of all the sporting morsels
you need on a daily basis. Coming up in this
program overyon with Corey Kennett. He's the chief executive of
(00:44):
Entrepreneur Carpany Rugby, talking about his decision, the club's decision,
the community's decision to stop Senior Club Rugby for a
whole weekend if referee abuse continues. I'll share an opinion
around Formula one comms between the driver and their crew
and thenso and of course we have a chamber and
(01:06):
in the chamber is for Reeves, sports news journalist for
the New Zealand Herald. That's our master plan. We're looking
forward to bringing it to you and thanks very much
to the fine folk at GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's
most trusted home builders.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is given in other news.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And in a vocal flash, here's some sport today. Three
half kiwis have tasted success early on in the French Open,
half a women's double pairing who soon has advanced, and
half of the men's doubles pairing has also moved forward,
Michael Venus being the New Zealand piece and former kiwi
(01:47):
now Brett Cameron Norri has beaten Daniel Medvedev. See three
half kiwis.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
He completely chopped me in Rome, I'll say outside and
Alcarez and Sinnan Novad would be probably the fourth toughest
straw for me or in terms of matchups and players.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Sailing Professor mark Oormspillien's The America Cup Wanna be challenges
are still irritated around the suggested new protocol.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
They are becoming increasingly frustrated with their inability to find
a chink in the armor of Team New Zealand. From
their perspective, they see that this protocol still tilts everything
in favor of the defender.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Guys, it's the America's Cup that's always been like this.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Back into the build with you.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And in basketball, Zko Coronell has dedicated his Japanese teams
championship win to former coach Kevin Braswell's kids. Zico, who
worked with Kevin in New Zealand and Basketball, took over
as the interim coach of Uttonumia Brex when Kevin passed away.
In February. Brex won the title and Zico addressed the fans,
(02:57):
Hello and Hendrix Braswell.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
God, they believe this team could be special.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You see now, he's always man.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He believed you guys could be very, very special through
the ups and downs in the ways.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But she goes grow up.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Never forget that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Believe in yourself. Damn you rock, Zecho, and that some
vocal sporting flashes for your Usamian.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's Force Fix with Dancy Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, it's true. I'm a Formula one addict. In fact,
race cars full stop. I don't know what it is.
How it started, well, I do know how it started,
but that's another story. But I love the entertainment, I
love the skill, I love the technology, and I love
the broadcast. Package used to be filmed on a potato
and it got put in a boat and two weeks
(03:48):
later from Europe, you received coverage of Formula one. Oh my,
how it's changed in this day and age. Example was
last weekend at Monaco, some of the most stunning shots
and coverage I've seen in Formula One, which made up
for the fact that the race is an essence extraordinarily boring.
But one thing I've noticed, and I've noticed over the years,
(04:09):
and it's not getting any better or worse depending on
how you see it, is the attitude of Formula One drivers.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Look.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Granted, a lot of them are children. They're petulant brats
who think they can do nothing wrong, but the communication
with them and their engineers through the onboard radio beggest belief.
They're either a complaining and moaning about everybody else or
be apologizing for collecting the barrier and the really expensive car.
(04:40):
One of these days one of these drivers is going
to go, oh, it was probably a fair move, but no, no, no,
it's always poor me looking at it. He cunt me off.
I don't believe he did it that way. What on
earth they're looking at? Something has to happen, bah blah blah. Look,
it's part of the theater, if you will, of Formula One,
but it does get a tad boring. There are some
(05:01):
entertaining people on the radio. Fernando Alonso springs to mind
the great and I'll call them that. Max first step
and does have his time in the sun. But it's
the younger crew that just whine. Stop it. I can
hear them saying it to their rich dad when they're younger. Dad.
I want to raised car, give me a Formula one Car,
(05:23):
I want a pony. He Alrony is here. I am
pissing and whinging and moaning about it.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So be it dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The Fixed podcast welcomes now chief executive of hotophoneur Carpitty Rugby.
His name is Cory Kennett. Geta Cory made a bit
of news with your idea or your line in the
sand around basically kicking the entire senior comp to touch
if there's any trouble on the sidelines, referee abuse and
(05:58):
the like as well. I'm presuming that this has been
welcomed with open arms by beaver On concerned.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Isn't it funny Sometimes through a negative situation you get
to real positive outcomes and overwhelming positive out of this
is this is a whole of.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Rugby community approach.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
So We've had one hundred percent unanimous support from all sectors,
all our member clubs, all our affiliated associations, the HCARE,
if you board the HCARE, a few Rugby Committee, the
Company Rugby Referees Association, so everybody is operating under the
same co pappa. We just we just we can't keep
(06:38):
tolerating this crap.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So what triggered it?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
What was there one that finally pushed the domino?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
So we've had initiatives in place, and we've dealt out
some pretty hefty sanctions in the past and suspensions. But
two weeks ago or two weekends ago, we had a
referee that was struck in the foot with a piece
of field equipment, and then later on there.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Was a threat that a referee would be stabbed. And
you get that across your desk. I suppose you're what
reaction straight away would be and how's the referee like that? Wow?
Speaker 6 (07:15):
You know that these these good buggers, these volunteers, these
guys and girls give up their time, their time away
from their farno. Some of them take days off work
so that this this whole community event can happen. We've
got we've got we've got volunteers refs that will give up,
that will officiate over three games, or leave home at
(07:36):
maybe nine am in the morning, come back at six
and the very reality, the very real reality, is they
might get abused at all three. Now, some of these
are low level items of abuse, and in some ways
they've become adapted being able to handle that. But when
you're saying crap like that, I'm going to stab you
(07:56):
or what ones in the past, good luck getting home?
That that sort of bollocks, You've got to stand up.
And as we've said, for us, we operate under the
mantra that the standard you walk past is the standard
you accept, and we don't accept this.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So when the referee came to you with that story,
how was he I'm presuming she quite shaken up or
excepting the fact that's me or what was their initial
response to this coy?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Yeah, you know what was really sad to hear and
the complaint is a statement from young guys saying I've
never felt so broken and never more did I want
to just take off my rest jersey, throat on the
ground and go home. And that's you know, that's that's
a son, that's a husband, that's a father, and it's
(08:45):
just horrendous.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Look what we would say is all of.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
The provincial unions in New Zealand, they've been working hard
on this for a long time. We're not unique, and
in fact, when we look at some of the grotesque
events that have happened up and down the country, we're
far from the worst. But we've got to be prepared
to do something. Kiwis are so inherently obsessed with performance,
with winning that cup, that she that title. Well, let's
(09:10):
smack them where it hurts. Let's let's say to them,
if you're going to continue to do this crap, that
we're going to come back at you, so that you
stand up and you listen, and your self police, you
peer review, and you say to each other when you
hear someone saying that that's not that's not good enough,
we're not going to accept that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So that situation was the trigger.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
But it's been getting loaded for a long long time,
hasn't it. And you would have been carrying us for ages.
And I'm presuming from what you're saying before, Corey, that
you've been talking to other unions and they're not alone,
but you've actually finally gone you know what, here's my
line in the sands, so big for you guys. So
where does the point start when it comes to the
(09:51):
possibility of stopping Club senior club rugby for an entire weekend.
You've got you've got levels of abuse, is it? How
do you actually start that ball rolling? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
You know, the first thing is having open, honest and
respectful communication with their Referees Association. So for us, incredibly
thankful that they are completely on board. They themselves have
released the statement that they're very thankful that they've been
involved in the whole process. So we liaise with them
(10:23):
around severity of abuse. And so as we've said, if
we get this serious, the most serious replicated, we're also
undertaking and we have we always do a whole heap
of an issues to address the lower level abuse, so
that because we're not naive, we're not going to get
rid of it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, rugby is a game, it's itself.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
It's just a mirror of society and we've seen the
the degrading of respect in society. And because they come
to a rugby we can't expect them to be completely
different in society. But we want to keep instilling and
upholding those values that set rugby apart, So we really
aise with the refs. We're in cons communication with them
(11:10):
how their people are, and then will assess situations on
a case by case basis, but being compared to pull
the trigger as soon as we need to.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix and if
A will.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Welcome into the chain. Back now to Chris Reeve. Chris
is a sports journalist for the New Zealand Herald, specializing
in Everything Chris, How are you?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, good mate, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's fair, isn't it? Saying everything? I mean you've got
fingers in every pie.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yeah, I mean I try my best. Keeps things interesting,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
While I'm interested in reading what you're right and you're
in now here in the chamber to talk. A few
things made against State against Tate, against Fate against Tyna.
I've given up State of Origin tonight at some indeterminate
time after ten between ten thirty. I often complain about
it going, oh well, you know, it's not quite. As
soon as I sit down and watch it, within ten minutes,
(12:02):
I'm in. I'm hooked. They've been producing some fantastic football
the last few years.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Yeah, No matter what the build up. Is it always
just seems to be the best league you're going to
see all yeah, like without fail the play dear thing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
I think it's just the aura of state of origin, right.
This is especially for these Australian guys, like this has
always been billed as the pinnacle of the sport, which
has been to the detriment of international rugby league.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But it's true, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yeah, in terms of rugby league, this is the games
you want to be playing. And the players turn up
just like that. You know, it's a lot more physical
than we see on weekends, is.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, do you think they're going to release still
release like they normally do, and they go, look, you
just play a bit harder and we'll just overlook some
of these minor infringements. That seems to.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Be the way I hope, so hope, So you can
always hope. It's not quite like back in the day
where you get a whole heap of a biff straight
off the bat. But you know, it's still great rugby league.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But that was of archaic. That's back league. Try and go,
so you know, we need to be a little cleaner.
They do tend to just lean in a wee bit
by Origin because almost the fans kind of demand it
kind of.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, absolutely, it's the whole Australian thing of Queensland versus
New South Wales. It gets everyone hope.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So I've lived in Queensland for a while and I've
watched Origin in Queensland pubs when it's on. It's why
it's it's electric. It's quite extraordinary. So favoritism either way
this time around for tonight.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I feel like it always lands on New South Wales
regardless of where they're playing or anything like that. But
Queensland and Brisbane pretty tough to be.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
In some corpse. Well it's a fire pit, isn't it
It is when it comes to that, I suppose if
you look at the matchups, most of the interest for
New Zealand audience, I'm presuming un least they're hard core
for Hasban fans or hardcore whatever fans, because here's plenting
them around is the fact that Mitch Bunnett's gonna have
a crack, which is really good. And there are also
(14:03):
other kiwis peeping around both sides.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
A good representation, yeah, it is, and it'll be interesting
to see the whole Kaylem Ponger narrative that's going on
at the moment. Whether this is going to be his
last Origin series, with rumors that he might try and
play for the Keywiz. Whether or not that happens, we'll,
you know, I won't believe that until I see it.
But you know, it's just another storyline thrown in amongst
(14:26):
this fire pit of Great Rugby.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
League and men walking around the outside with steerring renditions
of whatever hell they think they're renditioning horizons. I'm just
tired of. It's like, whatever, here, it was done, stop it.
Do something different, please, please. There's always a conversation around
this Chris Reeve about New Zealand not being involved in
Origin because it's not our competition, you know, we need
(14:50):
to make our own, mom whatever that does. But bringing
Origin over the ditch to be played at Eden part
open my hand up. I'll get tickets. I'd go and
watch it, but I just don't think it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Should be it's theirs, not ours, right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I would absolutely go and watch that if it came
to New Zealand, but it it just seems weird, you know,
just there's very tribal Australian competition being played in New Zealand.
I guess you've got the argument of neutral ground, but.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Even when it goes to Melbourne, it doesn't feel right. No,
you know, it's just strange like that. I'm not going
to go either way. I'll support Queensland because you know
I lived there, but I went that way around. I'm
just hoping for a reasonably quick start and some exceptional
rugby league, which I think we will get. There's no
way we can do this over here though, is that
we haven't got enough rugby league teams. It's not going
(15:38):
to work.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure how you would do over here,
whether you try and do a North or South or Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
It.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
They really wouldn't. So we'll just park that one and
we'll move on to our next topic. You've got an
unhealthy addiction to the America's Cup, Chris and over the
last couple of weeks talk about storylines for Origin Everywhere,
and the latest one is Sailor's moaning that the protocol
for the America's Cup, the proposed protocol isn't really really.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yeah, that was a really strange week last week, having
two of the challengers basically say to Team New Zealand
that you know, there's been a lack of transparency this
time around. And Team New Zealand respond by just releasing
the draft version of the protocol for the next Cup
so that everyone can read it and see what's going
on and some really interesting changes in there.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And for you, what are the big ones?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So what are the ones where you actually go, oh, oh,
didn't see that coming or I saw it coming, maybe
not to the sixty.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
There has been some talk sort of in more recent
times about a more I guess, the more open governing
of the Cup. They had the moment it's the defender
chooses everything, makes the rules all that, but well.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And the challenger just agrees and signs, right, the.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Challenger has some record.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, the defender
does get the does get like the big say, obviously
they can't just completely stack it in their favor, but
you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
As close to.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
A thousand years now, Yeah, they do get that opportunity.
But this time around they're looking at, you know, making
I think they called it America's Cup Partnership, where it's
basically a partnership between all the teams who would be
involved in selecting locations for events and organizing the regattas,
(17:34):
and that would I feel like they would give the
challenging teams a lot more input than they have now,
and not just the challenger of record, but everyone who
gets involved. Would My understanding of it would be that
they do get a seat at the table, their voice
might get hurt a little bit more, which could make
things really interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And I've had no correspondence from the America's regards my
idea to change the class to galleons with cannons and planks.
I don't think that's going to get any tracks. Christ
three people watching this absolutely that's the fan of the
center of the room all night us have a Reeve
sports news journalist for New Zealand Herald. Thanks for coming
into the chamber anytime.
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Fix podcast for today, Wednesday, the twenty eighth of May
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found your bite size home of all the sporting morsels
you need on a daily basis. Coming up in this
program overyon with Corey Kennett. He's the chief executive of
(00:44):
Entrepreneur Carpany Rugby, talking about his decision, the club's decision,
the community's decision to stop Senior Club Rugby for a
whole weekend if referee abuse continues. I'll share an opinion
around Formula one comms between the driver and their crew
and thenso and of course we have a chamber and
(01:06):
in the chamber is for Reeves, sports news journalist for
the New Zealand Herald. That's our master plan. We're looking
forward to bringing it to you and thanks very much
to the fine folk at GJ. Gardner Holmes, New Zealand's
most trusted home builders.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Is given in other news.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
And in a vocal flash, here's some sport today. Three
half kiwis have tasted success early on in the French Open,
half a women's double pairing who soon has advanced, and
half of the men's doubles pairing has also moved forward,
Michael Venus being the New Zealand piece and former kiwi
(01:47):
now Brett Cameron Norri has beaten Daniel Medvedev. See three
half kiwis.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
He completely chopped me in Rome, I'll say outside and
Alcarez and Sinnan Novad would be probably the fourth toughest
straw for me or in terms of matchups and players.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Sailing Professor mark Oormspillien's The America Cup Wanna be challenges
are still irritated around the suggested new protocol.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
They are becoming increasingly frustrated with their inability to find
a chink in the armor of Team New Zealand. From
their perspective, they see that this protocol still tilts everything
in favor of the defender.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Guys, it's the America's Cup that's always been like this.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Back into the build with you.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And in basketball, Zko Coronell has dedicated his Japanese teams
championship win to former coach Kevin Braswell's kids. Zico, who
worked with Kevin in New Zealand and Basketball, took over
as the interim coach of Uttonumia Brex when Kevin passed away.
In February. Brex won the title and Zico addressed the fans,
(02:57):
Hello and Hendrix Braswell.
Speaker 6 (02:59):
God, they believe this team could be special.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You see now, he's always man.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
He believed you guys could be very, very special through
the ups and downs in the ways.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
But she goes grow up.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
Never forget that.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Believe in yourself. Damn you rock, Zecho, and that some
vocal sporting flashes for your Usamian.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
It's Force Fix with Dancy Valdegrave.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yes, it's true. I'm a Formula one addict. In fact,
race cars full stop. I don't know what it is.
How it started, well, I do know how it started,
but that's another story. But I love the entertainment, I
love the skill, I love the technology, and I love
the broadcast. Package used to be filmed on a potato
and it got put in a boat and two weeks
(03:48):
later from Europe, you received coverage of Formula one. Oh my,
how it's changed in this day and age. Example was
last weekend at Monaco, some of the most stunning shots
and coverage I've seen in Formula One, which made up
for the fact that the race is an essence extraordinarily boring.
But one thing I've noticed, and I've noticed over the years,
(04:09):
and it's not getting any better or worse depending on
how you see it, is the attitude of Formula One drivers.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Look.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Granted, a lot of them are children. They're petulant brats
who think they can do nothing wrong, but the communication
with them and their engineers through the onboard radio beggest belief.
They're either a complaining and moaning about everybody else or
be apologizing for collecting the barrier and the really expensive car.
(04:40):
One of these days one of these drivers is going
to go, oh, it was probably a fair move, but no, no, no,
it's always poor me looking at it. He cunt me off.
I don't believe he did it that way. What on
earth they're looking at? Something has to happen, bah blah blah. Look,
it's part of the theater, if you will, of Formula One,
but it does get a tad boring. There are some
(05:01):
entertaining people on the radio. Fernando Alonso springs to mind
the great and I'll call them that. Max first step
and does have his time in the sun. But it's
the younger crew that just whine. Stop it. I can
hear them saying it to their rich dad when they're younger. Dad.
I want to raised car, give me a Formula one Car,
(05:23):
I want a pony. He Alrony is here. I am
pissing and whinging and moaning about it.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
So be it dissecting the sporting agenda. It's Sportsfix with
Darcy Waldgrave.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
The Fixed podcast welcomes now chief executive of hotophoneur Carpitty Rugby.
His name is Cory Kennett. Geta Cory made a bit
of news with your idea or your line in the
sand around basically kicking the entire senior comp to touch
if there's any trouble on the sidelines, referee abuse and
(05:58):
the like as well. I'm presuming that this has been
welcomed with open arms by beaver On concerned.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
Isn't it funny Sometimes through a negative situation you get
to real positive outcomes and overwhelming positive out of this
is this is a whole of.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Rugby community approach.
Speaker 6 (06:16):
So We've had one hundred percent unanimous support from all sectors,
all our member clubs, all our affiliated associations, the HCARE,
if you board the HCARE, a few Rugby Committee, the
Company Rugby Referees Association, so everybody is operating under the
same co pappa. We just we just we can't keep
(06:38):
tolerating this crap.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So what triggered it?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
What was there one that finally pushed the domino?
Speaker 6 (06:43):
So we've had initiatives in place, and we've dealt out
some pretty hefty sanctions in the past and suspensions. But
two weeks ago or two weekends ago, we had a
referee that was struck in the foot with a piece
of field equipment, and then later on there.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Was a threat that a referee would be stabbed. And
you get that across your desk. I suppose you're what
reaction straight away would be and how's the referee like that? Wow?
Speaker 6 (07:15):
You know that these these good buggers, these volunteers, these
guys and girls give up their time, their time away
from their farno. Some of them take days off work
so that this this whole community event can happen. We've
got we've got we've got volunteers refs that will give up,
that will officiate over three games, or leave home at
(07:36):
maybe nine am in the morning, come back at six
and the very reality, the very real reality, is they
might get abused at all three. Now, some of these
are low level items of abuse, and in some ways
they've become adapted being able to handle that. But when
you're saying crap like that, I'm going to stab you
(07:56):
or what ones in the past, good luck getting home?
That that sort of bollocks, You've got to stand up.
And as we've said, for us, we operate under the
mantra that the standard you walk past is the standard
you accept, and we don't accept this.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So when the referee came to you with that story,
how was he I'm presuming she quite shaken up or
excepting the fact that's me or what was their initial
response to this coy?
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Yeah, you know what was really sad to hear and
the complaint is a statement from young guys saying I've
never felt so broken and never more did I want
to just take off my rest jersey, throat on the
ground and go home. And that's you know, that's that's
a son, that's a husband, that's a father, and it's
(08:45):
just horrendous.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Look what we would say is all of.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
The provincial unions in New Zealand, they've been working hard
on this for a long time. We're not unique, and
in fact, when we look at some of the grotesque
events that have happened up and down the country, we're
far from the worst. But we've got to be prepared
to do something. Kiwis are so inherently obsessed with performance,
with winning that cup, that she that title. Well, let's
(09:10):
smack them where it hurts. Let's let's say to them,
if you're going to continue to do this crap, that
we're going to come back at you, so that you
stand up and you listen, and your self police, you
peer review, and you say to each other when you
hear someone saying that that's not that's not good enough,
we're not going to accept that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So that situation was the trigger.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
But it's been getting loaded for a long long time,
hasn't it. And you would have been carrying us for ages.
And I'm presuming from what you're saying before, Corey, that
you've been talking to other unions and they're not alone,
but you've actually finally gone you know what, here's my
line in the sands, so big for you guys. So
where does the point start when it comes to the
(09:51):
possibility of stopping Club senior club rugby for an entire weekend.
You've got you've got levels of abuse, is it? How
do you actually start that ball rolling? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (10:02):
You know, the first thing is having open, honest and
respectful communication with their Referees Association. So for us, incredibly
thankful that they are completely on board. They themselves have
released the statement that they're very thankful that they've been
involved in the whole process. So we liaise with them
(10:23):
around severity of abuse. And so as we've said, if
we get this serious, the most serious replicated, we're also
undertaking and we have we always do a whole heap
of an issues to address the lower level abuse, so
that because we're not naive, we're not going to get
rid of it.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You know, rugby is a game, it's itself.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
It's just a mirror of society and we've seen the
the degrading of respect in society. And because they come
to a rugby we can't expect them to be completely
different in society. But we want to keep instilling and
upholding those values that set rugby apart, So we really
aise with the refs. We're in cons communication with them
(11:10):
how their people are, and then will assess situations on
a case by case basis, but being compared to pull
the trigger as soon as we need to.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
The Chamber is now in session on Sportsfix and if
A will.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Welcome into the chain. Back now to Chris Reeve. Chris
is a sports journalist for the New Zealand Herald, specializing
in Everything Chris, How are you?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, good mate, pleasure to be here.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
It's fair, isn't it? Saying everything? I mean you've got
fingers in every pie.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
Yeah, I mean I try my best. Keeps things interesting,
doesn't it.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
While I'm interested in reading what you're right and you're
in now here in the chamber to talk. A few
things made against State against Tate, against Fate against Tyna.
I've given up State of Origin tonight at some indeterminate
time after ten between ten thirty. I often complain about
it going, oh well, you know, it's not quite. As
soon as I sit down and watch it, within ten minutes,
(12:02):
I'm in. I'm hooked. They've been producing some fantastic football
the last few years.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Yeah, No matter what the build up. Is it always
just seems to be the best league you're going to
see all yeah, like without fail the play dear thing.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (12:17):
I think it's just the aura of state of origin, right.
This is especially for these Australian guys, like this has
always been billed as the pinnacle of the sport, which
has been to the detriment of international rugby league.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
But it's true, isn't it.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Yeah, in terms of rugby league, this is the games
you want to be playing. And the players turn up
just like that. You know, it's a lot more physical
than we see on weekends, is.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
You know, do you think they're going to release still
release like they normally do, and they go, look, you
just play a bit harder and we'll just overlook some
of these minor infringements. That seems to.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
Be the way I hope, so hope, So you can
always hope. It's not quite like back in the day
where you get a whole heap of a biff straight
off the bat. But you know, it's still great rugby league.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
But that was of archaic. That's back league. Try and go,
so you know, we need to be a little cleaner.
They do tend to just lean in a wee bit
by Origin because almost the fans kind of demand it
kind of.
Speaker 7 (13:17):
Yeah, absolutely, it's the whole Australian thing of Queensland versus
New South Wales. It gets everyone hope.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So I've lived in Queensland for a while and I've
watched Origin in Queensland pubs when it's on. It's why
it's it's electric. It's quite extraordinary. So favoritism either way
this time around for tonight.
Speaker 7 (13:34):
I feel like it always lands on New South Wales
regardless of where they're playing or anything like that. But
Queensland and Brisbane pretty tough to be.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
In some corpse. Well it's a fire pit, isn't it
It is when it comes to that, I suppose if
you look at the matchups, most of the interest for
New Zealand audience, I'm presuming un least they're hard core
for Hasban fans or hardcore whatever fans, because here's plenting
them around is the fact that Mitch Bunnett's gonna have
a crack, which is really good. And there are also
(14:03):
other kiwis peeping around both sides.
Speaker 7 (14:05):
A good representation, yeah, it is, and it'll be interesting
to see the whole Kaylem Ponger narrative that's going on
at the moment. Whether this is going to be his
last Origin series, with rumors that he might try and
play for the Keywiz. Whether or not that happens, we'll,
you know, I won't believe that until I see it.
But you know, it's just another storyline thrown in amongst
(14:26):
this fire pit of Great Rugby.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
League and men walking around the outside with steerring renditions
of whatever hell they think they're renditioning horizons. I'm just
tired of. It's like, whatever, here, it was done, stop it.
Do something different, please, please. There's always a conversation around
this Chris Reeve about New Zealand not being involved in
Origin because it's not our competition, you know, we need
(14:50):
to make our own, mom whatever that does. But bringing
Origin over the ditch to be played at Eden part
open my hand up. I'll get tickets. I'd go and
watch it, but I just don't think it.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Should be it's theirs, not ours, right, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
I would absolutely go and watch that if it came
to New Zealand, but it it just seems weird, you know,
just there's very tribal Australian competition being played in New Zealand.
I guess you've got the argument of neutral ground, but.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Even when it goes to Melbourne, it doesn't feel right. No,
you know, it's just strange like that. I'm not going
to go either way. I'll support Queensland because you know
I lived there, but I went that way around. I'm
just hoping for a reasonably quick start and some exceptional
rugby league, which I think we will get. There's no
way we can do this over here though, is that
we haven't got enough rugby league teams. It's not going
(15:38):
to work.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Yeah, I'm not sure how you would do over here,
whether you try and do a North or South or Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
It.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
They really wouldn't. So we'll just park that one and
we'll move on to our next topic. You've got an
unhealthy addiction to the America's Cup, Chris and over the
last couple of weeks talk about storylines for Origin Everywhere,
and the latest one is Sailor's moaning that the protocol
for the America's Cup, the proposed protocol isn't really really.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
Yeah, that was a really strange week last week, having
two of the challengers basically say to Team New Zealand
that you know, there's been a lack of transparency this
time around. And Team New Zealand respond by just releasing
the draft version of the protocol for the next Cup
so that everyone can read it and see what's going
on and some really interesting changes in there.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And for you, what are the big ones?
Speaker 3 (16:35):
So what are the ones where you actually go, oh, oh,
didn't see that coming or I saw it coming, maybe
not to the sixty.
Speaker 7 (16:41):
There has been some talk sort of in more recent
times about a more I guess, the more open governing
of the Cup. They had the moment it's the defender
chooses everything, makes the rules all that, but well.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
And the challenger just agrees and signs, right, the.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
Challenger has some record.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, the defender
does get the does get like the big say, obviously
they can't just completely stack it in their favor, but
you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
As close to.
Speaker 7 (17:13):
A thousand years now, Yeah, they do get that opportunity.
But this time around they're looking at, you know, making
I think they called it America's Cup Partnership, where it's
basically a partnership between all the teams who would be
involved in selecting locations for events and organizing the regattas,
(17:34):
and that would I feel like they would give the
challenging teams a lot more input than they have now,
and not just the challenger of record, but everyone who
gets involved. Would My understanding of it would be that
they do get a seat at the table, their voice
might get hurt a little bit more, which could make
things really interesting.
Speaker 3 (17:53):
And I've had no correspondence from the America's regards my
idea to change the class to galleons with cannons and planks.
I don't think that's going to get any tracks. Christ
three people watching this absolutely that's the fan of the
center of the room all night us have a Reeve
sports news journalist for New Zealand Herald. Thanks for coming
into the chamber anytime.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
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