When the bunker was brought into the NRL, we had high hopes for it.
Dodgy reffing calls, human error and injustice were all going to be things of the past.
So why didn't Stephen Crichton get carded for his high shot on Roger Tuivasa-Sheck on Friday then?
Former Warrior Brent Tate theorised with D'Arcy Waldegrave on Sportstalk.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncie Wildegrave
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And on that very subject, we're joined now by Brent Tatis,
Worried Cowboys Kangaroo, current Fox Sport commentator. As we look
at the weekend and we look at the trouble at
Mill when it comes to Bunker and the refs and
their decisions in the NRL, I'm join now by Brent.
Welcome to the program. Brent, So I suppose with what
(00:35):
are your initial impressions on this, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Think they've created a rod for their own back at
the moment, mate, with some of the decisions around concussions
and head highs and who goes to the bin. And
I honestly think there's this mass confusion in the refereeing
ranks at the moment. To be honest, I don't think
they understand what is a sendoff. I don't think they
understand what's not a sendoff. Yeah, I genuinely think made
(00:59):
at the moment, there's just a real centiment across the
game that there's just everyone's confused, no one knows what's
going on. Yeah, it's a real worry, mate. I get
the sense that and I've got a real worry that
I think this semi final series might be one of
the most controversial we've ever seen, because I just think
all the referees at the moment are on a different
page to each other. They're really struggling for consistency, and
(01:23):
you know, it does seem every week we see Graham
and as they're sitting up there apologizing on behalf of
one of the teams, which, look, there's always going to
be some error, mate, But I just think we've got
to get on the right page at the moment, and
they've got to get on the right page quickly otherwise,
you know, this semi final series is going to be
really controversial, sort being.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Very reactionary over the weekend after that non call on Crichton,
suddenly the race all leaned toward maybe seening players to
the ben, may you put it on? It just got
a bit more intense, didn't after what happened on Friday night?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Very reactionary, Yeah, it certainly did, one hundred percent. Made
I think all the noise around that certainly set of
precedent for the rest of the rest of the weekend's football.
But again, mate, you know, look we're seeing guys getting
like nothing more than I love Pap getting sent off.
And look, I'm all for protecting the players and making
sure that our game is in a good position to
(02:17):
look after the players. You know that that's the main thing.
But I just think at the moment they've just gone
to the empty gree It's just gone way too far.
And as I said, look, I think the simple thing
is at the moment is if you know, if someone
gets hit in the head, you go to the bin,
and all the players know that, and that's that's just
the way it is. But yeah, certainly at the moment, Made,
it's there seems to be just mass confusion around the place.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, care on that in a second. Just going back
to the Wars situation, I've been talking to people saying, hey, look,
this is not an anti Warriors thing. It happens right
across the competition. Do you feel like as an anti
Warriors situation or there being unduly harassed?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
No, I don't think so. Made. As I said, I think,
you know, you could go over Graham as Lee's reviews
every week and I reckon every week, you know there's
a deceis in there that's you know, more or not
more or not. You could argue that's cost a team,
you know, a winning performance.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So I don't think it's just the wise. I do
get when you're a supporter of the club and you're
at the club behre, you do feel like that absolutely.
But as I said, I think if you went through
Graham and as leads reviews each Monday, that new every
week he's apologizing to a team where there's been a
maybe a refereeing, how that's cost a side two points.
So look, it is a really difficult job, mate. But
(03:36):
I just think now with the bunk, have we slow
everything down? You know everything, They slow the game to
down and they referee the game and slow and you
just can't do that with rugby league. I mean it's
a fast it's a fast paced game, it's a contact sport. Yeah,
it's just a difficult one. And to throw another layer
in that now, mate, we've got players laying down anytime
they get touched on the head. And that's you know,
(03:58):
the games created that, you know, because the players are
just playing within the rules. So now you know you
got blokes hold in the back of their next you've
got blokes holding ankles, You've got blokes sooner they get
touched on the face, screaming and yelling at the RAF
and laying down. So yeah, look, yeah, I genuinely have
real concern going into the semi final series because if
they don't fix this in the next couple of weeks,
(04:19):
it's going to cost a team of Grand final or
a semi final but the next week so and if
that happens, Mate, there's going to be real ramifications.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Bring Tate joins us. I suppose it's all well and
good saying this has to be solved in the next
couple of weeks, but how what actually can or has
to happen? How do you put the genie back in
the bottle again?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, I think for a start, you get the bunker
out of it, you know, refereeing the game in slow
mae and going over every single tackle, you know, like
that that's one thing or made at the end of
the day. As I said before, you know, if you
hit someone in in the head and that's you get
sent off, so you know, and that's just a blanket rule.
But again, we're going to have a game where everyone's
get sent off for ten minutes because it's a contact sport.
(04:59):
You know, at times you do come up around the head.
Whether it's a big contact or not, it happens. So
I know there's no quick for this, but mate, we've
got to get something sorted in the next couple of weeks. Otherwise,
like I said, I've got genuine fears for this semi
final series and it's not going to be perfect. But maybe, yeah,
I don't think it's a great look in the game
(05:19):
at the moment. When you've got two or three boats
getting sent off every in one game every week, it's just, yeah,
I don't know's it's just not a good look for
the game. And I think we're all as fans and
clubs and players, we're all getting really frustrated with it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, you're a former plane, you'd make a point on that.
You're all into being people's heads, being secret, into looking
after that. Granted, we don't want to go back to
the shoulders to their head and they're swinging arms and
the stiff arms and so on and so forth. But
there's I suppose has to be a happier medium. You
mentioned the bunker. Is there any way you can trim
(05:52):
that up, give them less control or say, look, all
you can judge on is this.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That or Yeah. I just think we've got to take
the amount of times that they've review stuff, you know.
I mean at the moment the review and had from
three or four players game where players have just been
tapped in the head. They've got up, play the ball,
play on and you know, there's nothing of it and
they're getting sent off. So mate, I just think the
interference from the bunk. I genuinely the more I talk
(06:18):
about this, I genuinely think the problem is the bunker
and how much they are interfering because the rest, I think,
have a decent feel for the game, and you know,
I just think the less the bunker can interfere, the
better it is for the game, you know, for the
flow of the game, you know. And as I said,
most of the rest at the moment are doing a
pretty good job with getting things right. You know, there's
always going to be a bit of error make that's
(06:39):
human nature and that's happened forever in the day. But
I just think the interference from the bunker is just
making it absolutely diabolic.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
A lot of the moment willingness the likelihood do you
think they would be brave enough to change the bunker
that they've set their stall out with. It, is that
a chance of even happening, Maybe not before the finals,
but maybe before the start of the twenty five season.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh look, I think there will definitely be a review
done next year. There has to be. There has to be.
All the minds have got to get together and fix
the mess that they've created at the moment, especially around
this head high stuff. So mate, that's got to happen.
That will happen. It just has to because they don't,
you know, it's just going to get worse and worse.
So I get the feeling that there will be a
(07:23):
you know, an end of the year summit or coming
together of the great one the game to try and
get some common ground here and figure out what's going
to be best for the game moving forward and what's
going to be best protecting the players moving forward. But look,
you know the lay at the moment, Yeah, we're probably
going to have to run with that to the end
of the year. But as I said, mate, I do
have huge concerns going into the finals because I'd hate
(07:45):
to see you know, we've got a semi final series
and you have got two or three blugs from meeting,
going to the bin. You know, that's going to decide
how the game goes. But that's not a good product.
That's not what we're about and we've never been about that.
So yeah, we'll see how it all plays out. I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
For more from sports Talk, listen lived and news Talks,
it'd be from seven pm weekdays all follow the podcast
on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Duncie Wildegrave
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And on that very subject, we're joined now by Brent Tatis,
Worried Cowboys Kangaroo, current Fox Sport commentator. As we look
at the weekend and we look at the trouble at
Mill when it comes to Bunker and the refs and
their decisions in the NRL, I'm join now by Brent.
Welcome to the program. Brent, So I suppose with what
(00:35):
are your initial impressions on this, Well, I.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Think they've created a rod for their own back at
the moment, mate, with some of the decisions around concussions
and head highs and who goes to the bin. And
I honestly think there's this mass confusion in the refereeing
ranks at the moment. To be honest, I don't think
they understand what is a sendoff. I don't think they
understand what's not a sendoff. Yeah, I genuinely think made
(00:59):
at the moment, there's just a real centiment across the
game that there's just everyone's confused, no one knows what's
going on. Yeah, it's a real worry, mate. I get
the sense that and I've got a real worry that
I think this semi final series might be one of
the most controversial we've ever seen, because I just think
all the referees at the moment are on a different
page to each other. They're really struggling for consistency, and
(01:23):
you know, it does seem every week we see Graham
and as they're sitting up there apologizing on behalf of
one of the teams, which, look, there's always going to
be some error, mate, But I just think we've got
to get on the right page at the moment, and
they've got to get on the right page quickly otherwise,
you know, this semi final series is going to be
really controversial, sort being.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Very reactionary over the weekend after that non call on Crichton,
suddenly the race all leaned toward maybe seening players to
the ben, may you put it on? It just got
a bit more intense, didn't after what happened on Friday night?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Very reactionary, Yeah, it certainly did, one hundred percent. Made
I think all the noise around that certainly set of
precedent for the rest of the rest of the weekend's football.
But again, mate, you know, look we're seeing guys getting
like nothing more than I love Pap getting sent off.
And look, I'm all for protecting the players and making
sure that our game is in a good position to
(02:17):
look after the players. You know that that's the main thing.
But I just think at the moment they've just gone
to the empty gree It's just gone way too far.
And as I said, look, I think the simple thing
is at the moment is if you know, if someone
gets hit in the head, you go to the bin,
and all the players know that, and that's that's just
the way it is. But yeah, certainly at the moment, Made,
it's there seems to be just mass confusion around the place.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well, care on that in a second. Just going back
to the Wars situation, I've been talking to people saying, hey, look,
this is not an anti Warriors thing. It happens right
across the competition. Do you feel like as an anti
Warriors situation or there being unduly harassed?
Speaker 3 (02:56):
No, I don't think so. Made. As I said, I think,
you know, you could go over Graham as Lee's reviews
every week and I reckon every week, you know there's
a deceis in there that's you know, more or not
more or not. You could argue that's cost a team,
you know, a winning performance.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
So I don't think it's just the wise. I do
get when you're a supporter of the club and you're
at the club behre, you do feel like that absolutely.
But as I said, I think if you went through
Graham and as leads reviews each Monday, that new every
week he's apologizing to a team where there's been a
maybe a refereeing, how that's cost a side two points.
So look, it is a really difficult job, mate. But
(03:36):
I just think now with the bunk, have we slow
everything down? You know everything, They slow the game to
down and they referee the game and slow and you
just can't do that with rugby league. I mean it's
a fast it's a fast paced game, it's a contact sport. Yeah,
it's just a difficult one. And to throw another layer
in that now, mate, we've got players laying down anytime
they get touched on the head. And that's you know,
(03:58):
the games created that, you know, because the players are
just playing within the rules. So now you know you
got blokes hold in the back of their next you've
got blokes holding ankles, You've got blokes sooner they get
touched on the face, screaming and yelling at the RAF
and laying down. So yeah, look, yeah, I genuinely have
real concern going into the semi final series because if
they don't fix this in the next couple of weeks,
(04:19):
it's going to cost a team of Grand final or
a semi final but the next week so and if
that happens, Mate, there's going to be real ramifications.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Bring Tate joins us. I suppose it's all well and
good saying this has to be solved in the next
couple of weeks, but how what actually can or has
to happen? How do you put the genie back in
the bottle again?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Well, I think for a start, you get the bunker
out of it, you know, refereeing the game in slow
mae and going over every single tackle, you know, like
that that's one thing or made at the end of
the day. As I said before, you know, if you
hit someone in in the head and that's you get
sent off, so you know, and that's just a blanket rule.
But again, we're going to have a game where everyone's
get sent off for ten minutes because it's a contact sport.
(04:59):
You know, at times you do come up around the head.
Whether it's a big contact or not, it happens. So
I know there's no quick for this, but mate, we've
got to get something sorted in the next couple of weeks. Otherwise,
like I said, I've got genuine fears for this semi
final series and it's not going to be perfect. But maybe, yeah,
I don't think it's a great look in the game
(05:19):
at the moment. When you've got two or three boats
getting sent off every in one game every week, it's just, yeah,
I don't know's it's just not a good look for
the game. And I think we're all as fans and
clubs and players, we're all getting really frustrated with it.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Well, you're a former plane, you'd make a point on that.
You're all into being people's heads, being secret, into looking
after that. Granted, we don't want to go back to
the shoulders to their head and they're swinging arms and
the stiff arms and so on and so forth. But
there's I suppose has to be a happier medium. You
mentioned the bunker. Is there any way you can trim
(05:52):
that up, give them less control or say, look, all
you can judge on is this.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
That or Yeah. I just think we've got to take
the amount of times that they've review stuff, you know.
I mean at the moment the review and had from
three or four players game where players have just been
tapped in the head. They've got up, play the ball,
play on and you know, there's nothing of it and
they're getting sent off. So mate, I just think the
interference from the bunk. I genuinely the more I talk
(06:18):
about this, I genuinely think the problem is the bunker
and how much they are interfering because the rest, I think,
have a decent feel for the game, and you know,
I just think the less the bunker can interfere, the
better it is for the game, you know, for the
flow of the game, you know. And as I said,
most of the rest at the moment are doing a
pretty good job with getting things right. You know, there's
always going to be a bit of error make that's
(06:39):
human nature and that's happened forever in the day. But
I just think the interference from the bunker is just
making it absolutely diabolic.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
A lot of the moment willingness the likelihood do you
think they would be brave enough to change the bunker
that they've set their stall out with. It, is that
a chance of even happening, Maybe not before the finals,
but maybe before the start of the twenty five season.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Oh look, I think there will definitely be a review
done next year. There has to be. There has to be.
All the minds have got to get together and fix
the mess that they've created at the moment, especially around
this head high stuff. So mate, that's got to happen.
That will happen. It just has to because they don't,
you know, it's just going to get worse and worse.
So I get the feeling that there will be a
(07:23):
you know, an end of the year summit or coming
together of the great one the game to try and
get some common ground here and figure out what's going
to be best for the game moving forward and what's
going to be best protecting the players moving forward. But look,
you know the lay at the moment, Yeah, we're probably
going to have to run with that to the end
of the year. But as I said, mate, I do
have huge concerns going into the finals because I'd hate
(07:45):
to see you know, we've got a semi final series
and you have got two or three blugs from meeting,
going to the bin. You know, that's going to decide
how the game goes. But that's not a good product.
That's not what we're about and we've never been about that.
So yeah, we'll see how it all plays out. I guess.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
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it'd be from seven pm weekdays all follow the podcast
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