June 20, 2024 • 41 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap an exciting week in the world of sports! Highlights for tonight include:
Blues loose forward Dalton Papali'i ahead of the Super Rugby final.
Talkback - Is Super Rugby just better this year? Why?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Welcome in Sports Talk. It's a Thursday night, twentieth of
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Coming up on tonight's program, we're focusing fully on Super
Rugby Pacific twenty twenty four. Be God, cricket be gone
from our minds. Let's talk about rugby. This final coming
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up on Saturday night in Auckland City at absolute Humdinger
and I would suggest the perfect exclamation point on what
has been an outstanding season of code. You may disagree,
you may not. We'll talk about that later in the peace,
much later in the piece, and very late in the piece.
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Marty Burke joins us. He is the assistant coach of
the Chiefs who are planning on or whizzing up State
Highway one. And mugging the Blues, and of course waiting
at the top of State Highway One is the Blues
and the former captain now just hanging out in the
loose is Dalton Papoletti. Dalton joins the program it shortly
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as we look forward to what promises so much to
finish off a grand old season of Super Rugby and
ask Dalton why it's been so good. We'll ask you
the same thing. What is move the needle for you
this year in Super Rugby? What one aspect of Super
Rugby has peaud your interest? Have you gone?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm actually enjoying this. I'm gonna keep watching it. We'll
talk about that later. And the piece. I love your
thoughts on why it did, why it cranked you, why
you got involved, why you got engaged. Look, you might
not have done. You can ring up and say I
was boring and watch and don't ring no, please do
one hundred and eighty ten eighty enough before we dive
headlong into any of that. Let's stand up and do this.
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And in sports today, you bluees Lucy Akiri Juani Field
of the inevitable questions around the unexpected return to the
footballing furnace by Patrick too.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
And then all of a sudden, you know, yeah, I
might step up on on Saturday. And I was like,
that's crazy, crazy movements from him. But that's good, you know,
just say so much. He loves, loves the boys and
loves this team.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Scary scary indeed, England bully the Ways Dundees and to
Defea to the T twenty world cut well and one
over at least Phil Salts thirty off the sixteenth over
powered the English to an eight wicket victory.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
If you want to get tens, you can go from
eights at one side and twelve from the other. Stuff
like that, just the way you construct the chase. And
I was just sort of had those words in my
head at that point in time. I could take the
spinners for less, but I've got to back myself to
cashim later on off Asimus twelve.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Eights about thirty yikes, so one with fifteen balls to spare.
It's against the West Indian team that rolled in New Zealand,
so it doesn't really matter that we're not on the
stop making excuses on the subject of cricket I'm supposed
to be avoiding. This came Williams and spoke today around
his decision to forego in New Zealand cricket central contract
is off to check out the glory of Africa, to
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play and to look at the wildlife.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
I say, I felt like it was a nice opportunity
to look at that it meant turning down a central contract. However,
my priority still is absolutely playing for New Zealand, and
I think I missed maybe a handful of game if any,
over sort of a three week period.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And Elephants. I'm really keen on seeing elephants and former
All Black Teeny isn't completely enamored by World Rugby's move
to trial, a concept that gives the TMO more to
do more, not less.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
I'm a little bit half hearted about it, just knowing
the game go pretty quickly. We would have thought we
had enough eyes between the ref and the torn side
with our system referees, but obviously they're wanting more assurances
around accuracy.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I don't know what they're doing. Let's want to wreck
a perfectly good game. More eyes, more control, more whistles,
more ego, more insanity from World Rugby. And that's sport today, right,
Let's get amongst sport on Saturday. This is it. This
is the final game, the last eighty minutes or more.
Presume not to finish off what's been at riveting and exciting,
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engaging and uplifting an interesting Super Rugby season. I don't
think a lot of people thought to go this far
and be this good and have this many people turning
up to the matches, sold out grounds. Why is this?
We'll find out later on and the piece. But we're
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gonna be joined now by Dalton Popolle. He's up inside
flank out for the Blues taking on the Chiefs on
Saturday evening for the title. We joined us now. And
I suppose Dalton, after all of your time playing rugby
from a very young man right the way up to
where you are now finals football, this is why you play.
Speaker 9 (05:51):
Right, Oh I'm fitting mate. Like to be honest, at
the start of the year, you know, Vern coming in
he said, you know, this whole year is based around
given to the final and then the season will be,
you know, the season will be, They'll be it, you know.
So it comes on pretty quick and we've achieved that,
gone to the final. Now it's got one. We've got
one more game to get right and and then we're
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gonna be happy with it. But you know, the boys
down the road, the Chiefs, and they're looking pretty dangerous
at the moment, and we saw their last game they
can put in the big shift, so looking forward to
the big.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
One huge shift. They got up and they basically punched
the Hurricanes and the nose a couple of times, and
the Hurricanes never survived. So your start's going to be crucial,
isn't it.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I feel like in the
Brumbys game, we started really well, but we sort of
full off in the second half of it. They're getting
playing a bit of frantic footy and just throwing at
some stupid passes and stuff like that. So I think
we just need to be a bit better there. But
the Chiefs state they started really well against I think
more of a quality side the Canes, and it goes
to show, you know, where we get their tails up
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early and it's pretty then a pretty good position to
win the game. So the first ten minutes is going
to be it's going to be it's going to be
full on.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
What changes in the build up. Now you know, you're
the big dance, and that's just from a team perspective
through vern Carter and also personally because I know that
you've lost the final, didn't like it very much, got
wiped for the All Blacks last year, didn't like that
very much. Has that altered the way you build up
to a game like the Stultan To be.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
Honest, we talked about it, and I know the players
that the Blues have talked about and well asked nothing changes.
I've been in teams where previously we've gone made at
the finals and we've tried to change the week and
it's a bit more serious, which is always going to
be serious in that, but you've got to enjoy the
last week. You've got to enjoys, you know, being with
this team because it was the last time this team's
got going to be assembled and we're in the finals,
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and you know, we've got a few things to play for,
like Akira leaving has been a big part of the squad,
and so we know that nothing changes for us, but
it's just the emotion is going to don't let the
emotion get to us and just play the occasion.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
When you turned up to training on Monday and Patrick
two Polotto was there, did you start thinking, oh, he's
going to play, he's going to recover from his knee injury.
And then when they said yeah he's in, what was
your reaction.
Speaker 9 (08:05):
Like, I got to admit, man, everyone was happy. Like
he's a a certain leader where when he's in the environment,
everyone notices it, and you know, for him to get
named in the team and the word got around on
Monday before the team was announced, it just lifts everyone's morale,
I think, and a boosts everyone's you know, energy, just
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seeing the big man back and he's a quality player
and what a leader he is as well. So seeing
him back in the team, I got everyone who put
everyone our smile on everyone's face when we found out
he was playing open.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Side flanker for the Blue Stop And I'll let you
join the program ahead of the final coming up on
Saturday in front of forty four thousand People's not overwhelming
to is it?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You got this? You don't worry about the size of
the crowd, do you?
Speaker 9 (08:50):
Ah, you don't really worry about him. But sometimes when
things aren't going away, you can hear them no love
the occasion, love how it's a bit what's sold out
pretty quick and I'm just looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
When you look at the makeup of the team and
what's changed this year under the watchful live Vern Catter,
we've seen a pack that marauds. It runs straight up
the middle and run straighta everybody. What else do you
think he's added to What? What energy has Vern brought
to the side, Because you've been on the up and up,
you just haven't quite notched it. So what's changed coaching wise?
Speaker 9 (09:23):
I think he's held everyone accountable. And I think he's
sort of you sort of look at him when you
first meet him, thinking, oh, he's old school and he's
he's serious, but yeah, the old school. But it's true
fact the he's old school man, you know, and that
old school toughness. But he gets along with everyone, and
he has personal relationships with certain players and the whole team,
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and and he sort of brings out the best and everyone.
I don't I don't really know how to word it,
but he's a coach where you want to play and
you want to play for him, and he brings the
best out of everyone. And that's I think that's where
you see. You know, these players in this team, now
you know, we all we all find him on every cylinder.
So it's just awesome to play for him. And I
think it's just I think we have onces enjoying it
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because you don't want to. I think I want plays
their best footy when they're enjoying the process and boys
are looking forward to coming and you know, early getting
smashing our training. Are we enjoying it? So that's probably
the main thing.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What about personally and your development worth Vern, because plainly
you're only focused on this weekend then there is an
all black campaign coming up, and it is because we
presume you're going to be selected very fresh with Scott
Robertson at the Helm, So as Vern tried to look
at improving the way you plan who you are as
a footballer that might be able to transfer further on,
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Like is he picked any holes? As he said, Hey,
what about this? What about that? What's he done for you?
Do you think.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
He's helped me out of really in the field of
playing with the ball in my hand? You know? I
remember with our old coach DURINGI who was awesome as well.
I was always going to be on the edges, you know,
just attacking in the edges. But he's really just brought
me and he said, I don't. He doesn't want me
on the edges. He wants me in the middle during
the hard yards with boys, and I think that's I've
never really had that in Super I've coming off the
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wing sometimes and gone to work, but the whole game
plan is wise forwards to go to work, and he
sort of put the emphasis on the forwards that it's
going to give the platform and for the backs to
score ties. So he's that's really good to me, you know,
the green light to really just go into the middle
and just get into my work with you know, a
hard ball carriers. And I've had to learn, you know,
you know, when you're about to run into a concrete wall,
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into a lock and a prop in the middle of
the field, you know, you know, use your skills and
full work into contact because you know some boys are
big and you know, physics is there. I ain't going
to be running over one hundred and two kg props.
But it's sort of just their belief in the ball
and hand and getting into my work in the middle
of the field is what has really grown in me.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think you'd be celebrating out of that, wouldn't you.
The one on one confrontation regardless of the size of
the upcoming I mean, you're full forty head you roll.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
You're a V eight mate, Oh maybe a V six
bro that the old Batty toops is a V A row.
But I love it and I used to. I used
to sometimes, you know, you know, sort of sick and
guess myself. But going into this year and n't really
giving me that green light. Man, I love that gritty
stuff in the middle end, and all the boys have
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bought him. And you can see when we're playing our
best footy at soft forwards, going up through the middle
wind and enjoying it so and then living our back
to through their dance on the on the edges.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
There's so much to look forward to in this game.
There are incredible matchups all over the park. I suppose
one of the ones I look forward to with the
nine and ten and that that pivot's very important on
both sides. But that's getting set up by the Lucy's.
I mean, you're one of your puppetlity Sotutu up against
female Jacobson and Satiti. That that's incredible. I know you
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want to play, but wouldn't that be great to watch?
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Oh? I mean to be honest, if I want to spectator,
I'd be fizzing as well if I want to be
amongst it. But you know this is these are the
games when I'm playing, Those are the matchups that really prove,
you know, like I want to be here and I
want to show what I got because it's the best
verson the best now and and I just can't wait.
And you know, the Chiefs have shown quality players as
one of the lower young players that he saw Wallace
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they're number aided last week and he's in his first year.
He's he's popping off. So and so pen if you
now and Luke Jacobson you know what they had as well.
So now I'm looking forward to these matchups.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Touched on it before any thought towards all black selection representation,
Any communications with Scott robertson any thoughts are tall on
that next step of the twenty four season.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
Oh, to be honest, I haven't really been haven't really
been in contact with him, to be honest. My role
now and what I'm doing is I want to win
something with the Blues. And you know a lot of
people always ask me, you know during the super season,
you know, have you been in contact with the all
black coaches and stuff, But I just tell them, man,
my sole focus is winning a chip with the Blues
and whatever happens you know after that if I do
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your names of all blacks and that's my focus, but
if I know it's all Blues.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And finally, Dalton Papala and thank you so much for
joining the show. Two parts here? Are you a bit filthy?
You've lost the captaincy? And what do you think's changed
in Super Rugby this year that's attracted the crowds? Is
there any main thrust on why people are actually turning
up to watch these games now because it's been on
the improve, hasn't it?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (14:10):
It has and not filthy losing the captaincy. Man that
Patty's one of my one of my close mates and
I'd follow their manager anywhere, so might as Like I said,
my sole focus is winning, winning a chip with the
Blues and with all the crowds coming. I think it's
probably because the Crusaders are in the finals, so that's
probably That's probably another little factor in all Honestly, I
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think I think the whole Super Rugby comp they're playing
exciting footy. You know, there's no real team that has
drawn away from the comp you know, they're one dominant team.
But like we've we've had the Blues this year. We've
had some close games against the Melbourne Rebels and Quarata.
We just got off you know, we just we just
won and it could have gone either way, and then
we've lost, you know, two games, and a lot of
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games have been close and it's been a lot of
great footy. So I think that's probably been a reason.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Why the right call is your call on eight eighty
Sports Talk All on your home of sports news talks be.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I believe he they're dropping a couple of cylinders in
the chat. I swear he's a v A, but he's
dropped himself down to a V SEX. Paddy tell ups
as the man with a big motor, big block as well.
I'd expect looking forward to the game on Saturday night.
Put this question do at the start of the program.
I've got a few texts on this, but I'd love
to hear your voice of eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
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I suppose it comes there and a couple of directions.
Has the product actually been any better this year? Am
I dreaming? I think it has? I think it's been
a superb product this year. Okay, maybe not superb. It's
been a considerably better product this year than previously in
my personal obinion. The amount of games that I've watched.
I think this is exciting. I'm just looking forward to it.
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Why is this? Why is there a newfound interest in
super rugby? And it's built and it's built over the
months of the season. Dalton partly he said one thing.
He said, it's because the Chris aren't there and it's
given everybody hope. I think that was a poke in
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the eye directed my way. But this possibly is one reason.
I have several reasons we I believe that Super Rugby
is a better product this year. People are turning up,
white people are watching it on the TV, more people
are talking about it. What's yours? The lack of crusaders,
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that's reasonably obvious, and get that. What else? And I
talked about this at the start of the season, believing
there are reasons here why we are going to have
a better product, and I'll run through those for you shortly,
but I'd like to hear from you. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty have you climbed on board? Are you going, yes,
this is a better product. This is why. Tell me
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your reasons. I'd love to know. And hey, if it's
been like a wet fart, let me know as well.
There might be people out there going no better, your
delusional mate on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Lovers or haters,
you're all welcome to the program. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
You can text your thoughts to nine two nine two.
That is zed b, zedb. We're talking at Super Rugby.
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The Grand Final is coming up on Saturday, GUNI, monks,
Why is it attracting so many more people? Why is
it attracting eyeballs? Why is it a better product? If
indeed you think it is most people I talked to, Granted,
I have a lot of friends who enjoy rugby, and
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I spend a lot of time talking to my colleagues
at work, and they're all sporttheads. The general consensus is
this is a better product, This is more fun to watch,
there's more water cooler talk around it. Why what does
it for you? What moved your needle? What tackled your
fancy eight hundred eighty ten eighty Got some text for
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You'd love to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Though, like, okoy, why are you pumping up the tires
of a false economy? Like I'm just so glad that
that there's no Pacifica with their spares and doing the
dancers and then they have to do a Harker and
all that kind of stuff. I mean, people just want
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to see rugby. They want to see a game, don't they.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Okay, so that's what you're saying. I don't you talking
about me pumping tires. It sounds like work and that's
something I don't do. So, but you're you're enjoying this
because of.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, I just think it's just I just think it's
it's just quite boring.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Do you think Super Rugby is boring?
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Totally. I mean I mean it's sort of like we've
ended up where we've ended and and and and and
I'm still I'm still not entertained. I mean, if you
think of The Gladiator, you know, like you to think
of the movie, are you not entertained? And and that's Romans.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay, so Bevan, I'll got my next question. Do you
you is a a your rugby fan? B how much
did you actually watch and see? What do you compare
it to from previous experience.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Well, I suppose if I'm looking at my channels, I'm
looking at rugby league and I'm looking at you know,
you know, I'm looking at the rugby obviously the rugby league,
and then I'm looking for you.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
You.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Have you watched much rugby union this year compared with
the last few years?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yes, absolutely, I've watched. I've watched pretty much all of it,
you know, like, it can't.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Be that boring if you've watched a whole lot of it.
What are you doing a massacres.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, I'm not going down to the games in the
middle of the night and sitting in a cold stadium
watching the Hurricanes and the Caketon.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well, because they've been playing afternoon football, but you're watching
it on your TV.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
They haven't made How many afternoon games have there been
this year?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
More than more than previously, but not as prevalent as
they should be from twenty years.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
You should be doing that. You should be doing your
re job and getting on on on onto Bloody Robinson.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I haven't now based on what are you talking about,
Robertson or Robinson Robinson? Okay, Well, and what do you
need to know from Robinson?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well, why aren't we Why aren't we seeing more daytime rugby?
Why it hasn't the game moved forward?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I mean, you know, the game has moved forward. I
think we've got a better a.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
Better product.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You don't like it. I think it's faster. I think
the changing of the the off side law changing with
the kick it so we don't get kicked tennis anymore.
I think that's made a message.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
You hear about the new did you just hear about
the new t m O rules today?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I've been talking about that this is a trial, This
has got nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
To have faster. You just you just see that the
game is getting faster.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I talked, I talked about that one of the off
side law changes that's happening. This is a proper those
law changed the TM and I think it's terrible. And
I've already said that that's international rugby looking into the future.
This is not Super Rugby here and now. And I
think the Super Rugby Commission over the last couple of
years have actually listened to what people want and they've
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started to make it a more palatable game. Now you
disagree with it, and you're quite entitled to that. What
I find into seeing thanks to your call is that
you find it a boring product and you don't like it.
You've watched heaps of it this year? Odd, Hi Andrew?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know?
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Three? I just want to point out, you know, I'm
one of these, uh you know, fanatics of rugby. Way
back in the early days, we could wreck people and
play and then you know, the code changed, and I
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don't think we could even in those days. I mean,
when there's a lot smart people around, you could ever
really understand why the code really changed? And I think
that's what from my generations. I'm fifty two, but you know,
way I guess and the early well mid nineties, there
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was a lot of stuff going on, but it was
just sort of like why did we need this? I
mean that's just like.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
So why do you need what? I've missed something here?
Why do you need what?
Speaker 10 (22:44):
A complete code change? No one understands the game but
you I.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Mentioned rucking, So you'd like to go back to a
return to that? Is that your primary concern?
Speaker 11 (22:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, So how is the how's the game chang? How's
the game change? It's so incredibly different, Like I'm your generation,
a couple of years older, than you, but I you know, yeah,
it has been changed and adjusted over the years, and yes,
sometimes the laws have been extraordinarily confusing, but I do think
it's a move to try and make it easier to understand. Right,
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So yeah, what was the big change for you? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (23:20):
Yeah, so so just generally speaking, my wife is from
Europe and she follows football, and she's a great football fan.
She understands, you know, football through and through, and you know,
twenty five years on, she's still trying to understand rugby.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Okay, Well, I mean and thanks for your call. And
I think there's a there's a major difference between rugby
and football football, and the reason it's been so successful
is it is extraordinarily simple. Rugby's complex. The rules are confusing.
We know that they do change all the time. World
rugby are constant, are looking at changing and adjusting. Some
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things they've got right, some things they've got horribly wrong.
This time, Super Rugby have turned around and said, hey,
look there's one glaring problem here. Kicked tennis, we're going
to change this. Was it you partly started that, I
think it was, so they've changed it. In football, you
kick the ball and the net you get a point. Yeah,
there's an off side law, and there used to be
an away goals or all where that's gone. And the
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subtleties and the variants around football are enormous but based
on a very very simple premise and that's why it's
so successful. But I get that. And to come over
and fully engage and understand rugby, I think after twenty
five years, maybe Andrew she just doesn't wat's enough. Twenty
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five away from eight?
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Greg, how are you going pretty good? How are you going?
Speaker 11 (24:53):
Oh? Yeah, I'm doing all right mate. They football is
my game, but I watched league and lots and lots
of rugby and I'm enjoying I'm enjoying.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
The rugby more so than last year of previous editions.
Speaker 11 (25:04):
Well, yeah, I guess. So my biggest concern, I guess
is I hope that rugby globally doesn't sell out to
the Middle East. You know that offer that's well, that
suggestion that's been put on the table about a global
game being staged in parts of the Middle East, and
that money.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And that and you know what that is. This is
this is a circling menace. It's a black hole and
it's going to suck every sport. Every sport's being sucked.
They can't our money and I and it would be
a shame that you.
Speaker 11 (25:36):
Know, absolutely absolutely, But it's interesting that the Americans are
trying to adopt league, you know, in Las Vegas and
that all that sort of thing. But I think, look, at.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
The end of the day, I did Leagues an easier
game to pick up for the American audience, I really do,
and I'd say for people who don't, it's at the Again,
the premise is a lot. It's a lot more simple
than we've seen in rugby union. They and it's got
the big hits, and it's got the aggression and the running.
It hasn't made it's maybe quite not as nuanced. There's
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a lot more subleties around rugby. But also with that
comes mass confusion about how to referee it and what
takes you going on out in the middle.
Speaker 11 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, well that's true. I mean, I've got I've
got some friends over. I was talking to a guy
the other night who I mean, I'm the sixties and
I haven't seen him for thirty odd years. But these
in La now it's I love those leagues. Rushing backs,
you know, the rushing backs, which is the American way
of describing whatever player on the field rushing at the
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line and all that sort of thing. But look, yeah,
I'm concerned about rugby union man.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I just yeah, can.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
You isolate so to see you think it's slightly better?
Is there any particular reason? What's your biggest concern.
Speaker 11 (26:57):
I'll tell you what I'd like to see. I'd like
to see a comp that's all New Zealand teams and
it's not going to happen. And well, no, I'm talking
about the five franchises because you could see, like we
just saw the Blues play the Brumbies in at Eden Park, right, yeah,
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now that was a knockout game, correct me if I'm wrong.
It was the commentator if I heard him right, one
of them said there were fifteen thousand people.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There and to you that for a knockout game, it
could be a lot more. Okay, I don't want to
defend it because I think that that is problematic, right,
But I'd say there's two reasons behind us. One of
these insane reasons is it is a super rugby knockout
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game on a Friday night, kicking off at seven o'clock
in Auckland City. That in itself is bizarre. They deserved
a small crowd. They can't do that for those of
you that stand in Auckland City, you can't between the
hours of five and seven, let alone get anywhere. So
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that's one reason. Maybe people are thinking, Wow, the Chiefs
might beat the hurricane, so we'll just come back next
week the final. I don't know. It's a bit of
a loose excuse, but Greg, I say, more people are watching,
more engaging. It's a full house because it's a final
coming up. But it's still not what it should be
in the eyes of Super Rugby. But it is on
the improved, is it. I don't know.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
Am I still talking here?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Sorry? Greg, I'll get a bit excited.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Absolutely agree. The Friday night thing, but you know that's
that's logistical planning, bloody idiots. Maybe they could make saday
are two thirty on Saturday and all kids a under
fifteen three thirty thousand, Yes, and all the food vendors,
all the food vendors might have made some money.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You know, need a reason to come, make it a reason,
give us every excuse we need to get up and go. Agreed,
Thanks very much for your call, thanks for bringing those
points up. Four o'clock Friday kickoff to us. You give
us all on an excuse to skive off work early.
I say, okay, how's that going to work? When you
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produce heather between four and seven? She won't even notice
on that terrible job. Maybe afternoon games eighteen it's twenty
to eight more of your course, still to count our
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty? What's done it
for you?
Speaker 8 (29:36):
In sleeve?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
For rugby this year? Go on? Are you watching more?
Is it a better product? Is it the fact that
the Crusaders were absolutely rubbish so people love buying into that?
Is it the the law changes to encourage a counter
attack not just kicking tennis? Is it the fact that
there's a new all black coach. A lot of the
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old guys have departed and so suddenly there's all these
opportunities for guys to get into the orban. Are they
playing better based on that? Is it the new coaches
and the side? Is it the social media? I don't know,
Let me know, I'm keen on eighty ten eighty lines
are open, their news dogs beds away, your booster workings?
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Is your truck.
Speaker 12 (30:21):
Mine?
Speaker 9 (30:22):
It's fun for all the crowds coming. I think it's
probably because the Crusader's one in the finals, so that's
probably that's probably another little factor.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Dulton, Papa Li thanks for that, Dulton, which could be true.
Though everybody has a chance. They're like the Wicked Witch
is dead. We don't have that shadow over top of
all of us. Other teams can shine. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. What's done for you? What's peaked
your interest? What's moved you need or I've got a
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few texts for you, but let's get back to the phones. Gooday, Murray,
what's done for you?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (31:01):
Gooday, don't so here you are?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
You're good.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
Hey.
Speaker 13 (31:04):
I thought your article by the way and the news
was fantastic just as a as a Starde issue. I
think well done on that. That was brilliant thing.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah all good.
Speaker 13 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I think it's important that people know it's not a
death sentence and it's can be managed and it's actually
a good thing.
Speaker 13 (31:17):
So thanks for that, mate, I thought, honestly, openly, I
thought it was fantastic, So give for you.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Well.
Speaker 13 (31:25):
I've thoroughly enjoyed super Ugly this year. Absolutely loves it.
I've watched a huge amount of it. I've thought it's
been highly entertaining. I think the referees by and large
done a very good job of a very unenviable position
that they're in with the rules around the game. But
I think they've taken a much more common sense approach
by and large, I think the rugby has improved acquently.
I think they try and minimize the time wasteing, making
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you know, players move more quickly to the scrums to
line outs has been really effective. I think the comparedness
of the Australian starts, particularly in Australia, has also really
added to the competition.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So it's a been a surprise, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (32:00):
Murray.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I don't think anyone saw that coming. Everyone's like he
be going again, run straight out of the top of them,
and suddenly they started playing. It's like, well, okay, this
adds an extra level. Not as well as they would
like to, but they've been relevant competition for a lot
of the time.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
Well.
Speaker 13 (32:16):
I think I think the consistency of some of the
some of their wins is that they've always in the
last few years had wins here and there, but actually
to see you know, to see the Reds either the
Rebels are tailed off but at the start of the
season actually having a number of wins, and the drumby's
quite consistent, essentially fantastic, and so I think for me,
all those things have combined to make a terrific Super
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Rugby season. Which is not to say that the game
doesn't have some challenges to face like many professional sports
in that matter, but no, I think overall it's been
I've loved it. I've I've been able to get along
to Eden Park to the majority of the home games,
have really enjoyed the experience. They're trying to engage the
fans a lot more and I think they're doing a
good job of it. And just I'm just ecstatic to
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see that it's sold out for this weekend. It's sold
out in a matter of ours, so so amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You've been along to a few of the games, Marriy,
you see that the fan experience is improving on what
front particularly.
Speaker 13 (33:14):
I think they're actually that they appreciate that. You you know,
you need to engage the fan, not just with the
with the game. I mean, the game has to speak
for self ultimately, because you can do all the other
things that if you need to watch rogue in the
product's crap, you won't. You won't be going back. And
what they are doing is have the way that they
try to engage cares. You've got you know, you know,
three flags to everyone that goes in. You know, they
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have the crowd engagement m and the IKMS plus that
they do and you know eat half home entertainment. I
mean the like show that was done, the laser show
that was done at the semi final against the brun
which was absolutely amazing. I mean, that was that was fantastic.
And they're oftenly just a little you know sort of
you know games or all competitions that they're doing enough times,
so they're just trying to do different things. There's still
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things that they can improve on. But overall, like I said,
I I just I've had I've just thoroughly enjoyed the
you know, the rugby this year, I think, and I
say the utmost respect to the Crusaders, given them, I
spent half a time in christ Church, but I think
the fact that they struggled makes it has made also
made the competition also more entertaining, because I think the
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competition needed a different winner and again I say that
with the utmost respect to what an extraordinary crusaders died
in Canterbury Regions for rugby. But to have a different
winner is going to be is going to be good?
Good for the competition?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating
and the Auckland crowds, and also handy that the Chiefs
is just up the road. They're gobbling down sleep for
rugby this weekend and that proves a whole lot.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Sure, maybe it's a final, and maybe people are going
because it's more of an occasion as opposed to a
standard game. But the trend has been people want to
go back. There's still a lot more to do though,
isn't the marriage I.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
Think you Zeelan, if you look at his Ziln fans fotasity,
I mean we've become quite event central, haven't we. Like
I mean, if you look in general, I mean you
look at the Blackburn's Rugby brock Cup final, which I
was privileged, you have an extraordinary occasion. I mean you
compare that to the crowds of black Funds, even though
they are a really loved side. If you look at
the general audiences that they're getting at the games now,
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they haven't grown as consistently if you compare them to
say to you know, to the United Kingdom. So so
I think there's still I think as in general, I
mean compared to the football ferns over here, I mean
are lucky if they probably get a thousand people at
the game. Yet at the at the Women's Super World Cup,
but we had we have sold out stadiums. So I
think we've become quite event centric fans, which is something
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again all professional codes need to look at in this country.
I can't wait for Saturday. I think it's going to
be an incredibly occasion and I'm very happy I've got
my tickets and can't wait.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
It's going to be a massive event. And yet event
centric that's that's too true, and people do enjoy like
that's that whole fear of missing out thing, isn't it. Well,
you're there. Note It's nice to have that call though, Murray,
thanks for that, canay, Jason.
Speaker 12 (36:11):
Yet I think this proofect storm has been in the
making for quite a while. To be fair, I actually
rate it. I don't think there's only any one particular thing.
I think, for me, one of the big things that
there's been a bit of a stippery slope is when
the South African teams, you know, when they went north.
I mean, I know the timing of those games over
and Transveil and all that, they weren't ideal, But there's
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something about those three a M. Four AM games that
keep the intrigue even if you didn't watch them live.
I think it's it's diluted. It's made the competention quite
weak with those teams not been there.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
That to it.
Speaker 12 (36:46):
You know that that on the road when they to
go over those parts of the world, that was that
sort of the book men out from the boys. I
think that's sort of made it weak. I think our
men in the Northern hemisphere had got their wish. I
think the efty powered the game to such a point
now where it's just become predictably boring to be fair
well so this.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Season though you haven't found need traction for yourself, You've
not listening on, Hey, this is actually not a bad product.
This is not the case for you.
Speaker 12 (37:12):
I hate saying that I haven't got excited. I don't
think I've watched more than twenty minutes. And the biggest
thing I get really grumpy about and Rugany's got to
sort this out because it's become so pathetic. Is this
advantage role where you can have a minor infringement, say
high tackle, and they go and they and three minutes
later it again runs all the way back fifteen phases.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
That's just nuts.
Speaker 12 (37:34):
If you've if you've got the ball, you've made something
with it, You've even if you've gone five meters and
you haven't made a mistake, that that advantage has accruded
my eyes. So I then they need to sort that
out because that's just absolutely ridiculous. And what it's doing
is actually no team can absolutely get the other team
on the ropes now because they spend four or five
minutes going back and slowing it down so much and
having a look, the other teams actually got their breath back.
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It's the other thing too, though, for me, is why
why not this game and why something else? Did you
see that theater that unfolded at Pinehurst for those four rounds?
Speaker 9 (38:06):
I don't I missed it.
Speaker 12 (38:07):
I don't think I missed a minute.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I missed enough of it, but I saw the last
nine holes and it was astonishing. I get you on that.
That was something else. Hey, Jason, thanks very much for
your call, almost trying to wind things up. Dunny's on
the line, get a mate, how are you?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Good days from Castle Hill Mountain village on the Great
Alpine Highway, number seventy three, very brief.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I know the place well, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yes, I think the demise of the driving rucking game
has been a really detrimental thing for professional rugby. Also,
scrum coaches, I think have created this monolist where we
have packed spending ages to set, then a scrum half
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simply rolls it into the second row. Anyway, bring back
the days of hookers where they genuinely competed tight head
won or lost, could make or change a game, just
throwing it out there for what it's worth.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And Donny, thank you very much for throwing it in
our direction. It is eight minutes to eight. I finished
just some texts, plenty of them coming up shortly here
on sports Tour. It's five minutes to eight, Tim Beverage
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and the hot seat tonight for Marcus Lush. He'll have
you between eight and midnight of it had an eighty
ten eighty couple of quick texts before we exit stage it.
Tim Beveridge. What did I say? No, I said Tim
Beveridge in for Marcus Lush. I'm being told off, but
I think Tim Beveridge sitting in the producer studio learn
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to listen. I know he's bigger than I am. Don't
say that. Let's just run through a couple of quick text.
What an excellent fellow a Dulton pupulicar he is. That
was a lovely interview, even forgiven for the Crusader's crack,
mainly because it really was a backhanded compliment. Darcy SKYTEV.
You don't give a toss about turn up crowds. That
means people will watch the game on TV exposed to
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add Sky subscriptions at dollars dollars dollars. I'm for taking
our families to an afternoon game and dealing with the wind.
It's all part of rugby psychology. Nuts, but yeah, it's great.
Darcy Super Rugby died as a competition when South Africa left.
Darcy Siper Rugby has not been a great product. Besides
the Canes versus the Chief semi, it's been lackluster except
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for the Crusaders getting smashed. That's from Steve's a little
people took an unhealthy amount of joy out of that,
didn't they as the social media rights another from the players,
They've really ramped that game up. Darcy. I'm a huge
fan of rugby, but this year I only watched three
Crusaders games. I can't really comment whether it's better or not,
but I think the last couple of years from Zealand
teams versus Zealand teams and the team I involved just
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got bored of it. I got bort a so much
of it and I'm putting it out to the sad
is not playing well. I'm intioned to see if we'll
actually get behind the abs Hamish. Thank you very much, Darcy,
alve my rugby. I refuse to go to Eden Park.
It is just too difficult get it down town. And
someone wants to know how Graham is. Has anyone checked
on Graham lately? Gramy, you out there, people are care
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for you. Go on, get behind the Blues or the Chiefs. Cram.
I know you can do it, two of the Crusader's
favorite oppositions. Thanks for producing the program, Ands Ministered, Thanks
for all of you for your calls for your texts.
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Coming up on tonight's program, we're focusing fully on Super
Rugby Pacific twenty twenty four. Be God, cricket be gone
from our minds. Let's talk about rugby. This final coming
(01:13):
up on Saturday night in Auckland City at absolute Humdinger
and I would suggest the perfect exclamation point on what
has been an outstanding season of code. You may disagree,
you may not. We'll talk about that later in the peace,
much later in the piece, and very late in the piece.
(01:34):
Marty Burke joins us. He is the assistant coach of
the Chiefs who are planning on or whizzing up State
Highway one. And mugging the Blues, and of course waiting
at the top of State Highway One is the Blues
and the former captain now just hanging out in the
loose is Dalton Papoletti. Dalton joins the program it shortly
(01:54):
as we look forward to what promises so much to
finish off a grand old season of Super Rugby and
ask Dalton why it's been so good. We'll ask you
the same thing. What is move the needle for you
this year in Super Rugby? What one aspect of Super
Rugby has peaud your interest? Have you gone?
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I'm actually enjoying this. I'm gonna keep watching it. We'll
talk about that later. And the piece. I love your
thoughts on why it did, why it cranked you, why
you got involved, why you got engaged. Look, you might
not have done. You can ring up and say I
was boring and watch and don't ring no, please do
one hundred and eighty ten eighty enough before we dive
headlong into any of that. Let's stand up and do this.
(02:39):
And in sports today, you bluees Lucy Akiri Juani Field
of the inevitable questions around the unexpected return to the
footballing furnace by Patrick too.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
And then all of a sudden, you know, yeah, I
might step up on on Saturday. And I was like,
that's crazy, crazy movements from him. But that's good, you know,
just say so much. He loves, loves the boys and
loves this team.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Scary scary indeed, England bully the Ways Dundees and to
Defea to the T twenty world cut well and one
over at least Phil Salts thirty off the sixteenth over
powered the English to an eight wicket victory.
Speaker 6 (03:17):
If you want to get tens, you can go from
eights at one side and twelve from the other. Stuff
like that, just the way you construct the chase. And
I was just sort of had those words in my
head at that point in time. I could take the
spinners for less, but I've got to back myself to
cashim later on off Asimus twelve.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Eights about thirty yikes, so one with fifteen balls to spare.
It's against the West Indian team that rolled in New Zealand,
so it doesn't really matter that we're not on the
stop making excuses on the subject of cricket I'm supposed
to be avoiding. This came Williams and spoke today around
his decision to forego in New Zealand cricket central contract
is off to check out the glory of Africa, to
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play and to look at the wildlife.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
I say, I felt like it was a nice opportunity
to look at that it meant turning down a central contract. However,
my priority still is absolutely playing for New Zealand, and
I think I missed maybe a handful of game if any,
over sort of a three week period.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
And Elephants. I'm really keen on seeing elephants and former
All Black Teeny isn't completely enamored by World Rugby's move
to trial, a concept that gives the TMO more to
do more, not less.
Speaker 8 (04:26):
I'm a little bit half hearted about it, just knowing
the game go pretty quickly. We would have thought we
had enough eyes between the ref and the torn side
with our system referees, but obviously they're wanting more assurances
around accuracy.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I don't know what they're doing. Let's want to wreck
a perfectly good game. More eyes, more control, more whistles,
more ego, more insanity from World Rugby. And that's sport today, right,
Let's get amongst sport on Saturday. This is it. This
is the final game, the last eighty minutes or more.
Presume not to finish off what's been at riveting and exciting,
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engaging and uplifting an interesting Super Rugby season. I don't
think a lot of people thought to go this far
and be this good and have this many people turning
up to the matches, sold out grounds. Why is this?
We'll find out later on and the piece. But we're
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gonna be joined now by Dalton Popolle. He's up inside
flank out for the Blues taking on the Chiefs on
Saturday evening for the title. We joined us now. And
I suppose Dalton, after all of your time playing rugby
from a very young man right the way up to
where you are now finals football, this is why you play.
Speaker 9 (05:51):
Right, Oh I'm fitting mate. Like to be honest, at
the start of the year, you know, Vern coming in
he said, you know, this whole year is based around
given to the final and then the season will be,
you know, the season will be, They'll be it, you know.
So it comes on pretty quick and we've achieved that,
gone to the final. Now it's got one. We've got
one more game to get right and and then we're
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gonna be happy with it. But you know, the boys
down the road, the Chiefs, and they're looking pretty dangerous
at the moment, and we saw their last game they
can put in the big shift, so looking forward to
the big.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
One huge shift. They got up and they basically punched
the Hurricanes and the nose a couple of times, and
the Hurricanes never survived. So your start's going to be crucial,
isn't it.
Speaker 9 (06:30):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I feel like in the
Brumbys game, we started really well, but we sort of
full off in the second half of it. They're getting
playing a bit of frantic footy and just throwing at
some stupid passes and stuff like that. So I think
we just need to be a bit better there. But
the Chiefs state they started really well against I think
more of a quality side the Canes, and it goes
to show, you know, where we get their tails up
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early and it's pretty then a pretty good position to
win the game. So the first ten minutes is going
to be it's going to be it's going to be
full on.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
What changes in the build up. Now you know, you're
the big dance, and that's just from a team perspective
through vern Carter and also personally because I know that
you've lost the final, didn't like it very much, got
wiped for the All Blacks last year, didn't like that
very much. Has that altered the way you build up
to a game like the Stultan To be.
Speaker 9 (07:20):
Honest, we talked about it, and I know the players
that the Blues have talked about and well asked nothing changes.
I've been in teams where previously we've gone made at
the finals and we've tried to change the week and
it's a bit more serious, which is always going to
be serious in that, but you've got to enjoy the
last week. You've got to enjoys, you know, being with
this team because it was the last time this team's
got going to be assembled and we're in the finals,
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and you know, we've got a few things to play for,
like Akira leaving has been a big part of the squad,
and so we know that nothing changes for us, but
it's just the emotion is going to don't let the
emotion get to us and just play the occasion.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
When you turned up to training on Monday and Patrick
two Polotto was there, did you start thinking, oh, he's
going to play, he's going to recover from his knee injury.
And then when they said yeah he's in, what was
your reaction.
Speaker 9 (08:05):
Like, I got to admit, man, everyone was happy. Like
he's a a certain leader where when he's in the environment,
everyone notices it, and you know, for him to get
named in the team and the word got around on
Monday before the team was announced, it just lifts everyone's morale,
I think, and a boosts everyone's you know, energy, just
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seeing the big man back and he's a quality player
and what a leader he is as well. So seeing
him back in the team, I got everyone who put
everyone our smile on everyone's face when we found out
he was playing open.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Side flanker for the Blue Stop And I'll let you
join the program ahead of the final coming up on
Saturday in front of forty four thousand People's not overwhelming
to is it?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Mate?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
You got this? You don't worry about the size of
the crowd, do you?
Speaker 9 (08:50):
Ah, you don't really worry about him. But sometimes when
things aren't going away, you can hear them no love
the occasion, love how it's a bit what's sold out
pretty quick and I'm just looking forward to it.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
When you look at the makeup of the team and
what's changed this year under the watchful live Vern Catter,
we've seen a pack that marauds. It runs straight up
the middle and run straighta everybody. What else do you
think he's added to What? What energy has Vern brought
to the side, Because you've been on the up and up,
you just haven't quite notched it. So what's changed coaching wise?
Speaker 9 (09:23):
I think he's held everyone accountable. And I think he's
sort of you sort of look at him when you
first meet him, thinking, oh, he's old school and he's
he's serious, but yeah, the old school. But it's true
fact the he's old school man, you know, and that
old school toughness. But he gets along with everyone, and
he has personal relationships with certain players and the whole team,
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and and he sort of brings out the best and everyone.
I don't I don't really know how to word it,
but he's a coach where you want to play and
you want to play for him, and he brings the
best out of everyone. And that's I think that's where
you see. You know, these players in this team, now
you know, we all we all find him on every cylinder.
So it's just awesome to play for him. And I
think it's just I think we have onces enjoying it
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because you don't want to. I think I want plays
their best footy when they're enjoying the process and boys
are looking forward to coming and you know, early getting
smashing our training. Are we enjoying it? So that's probably
the main thing.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
What about personally and your development worth Vern, because plainly
you're only focused on this weekend then there is an
all black campaign coming up, and it is because we
presume you're going to be selected very fresh with Scott
Robertson at the Helm, So as Vern tried to look
at improving the way you plan who you are as
a footballer that might be able to transfer further on,
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Like is he picked any holes? As he said, Hey,
what about this? What about that? What's he done for you?
Do you think.
Speaker 9 (10:43):
He's helped me out of really in the field of
playing with the ball in my hand? You know? I
remember with our old coach DURINGI who was awesome as well.
I was always going to be on the edges, you know,
just attacking in the edges. But he's really just brought
me and he said, I don't. He doesn't want me
on the edges. He wants me in the middle during
the hard yards with boys, and I think that's I've
never really had that in Super I've coming off the
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wing sometimes and gone to work, but the whole game
plan is wise forwards to go to work, and he
sort of put the emphasis on the forwards that it's
going to give the platform and for the backs to
score ties. So he's that's really good to me, you know,
the green light to really just go into the middle
and just get into my work with you know, a
hard ball carriers. And I've had to learn, you know,
you know, when you're about to run into a concrete wall,
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into a lock and a prop in the middle of
the field, you know, you know, use your skills and
full work into contact because you know some boys are
big and you know, physics is there. I ain't going
to be running over one hundred and two kg props.
But it's sort of just their belief in the ball
and hand and getting into my work in the middle
of the field is what has really grown in me.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
I think you'd be celebrating out of that, wouldn't you.
The one on one confrontation regardless of the size of
the upcoming I mean, you're full forty head you roll.
Speaker 9 (11:48):
You're a V eight mate, Oh maybe a V six
bro that the old Batty toops is a V A row.
But I love it and I used to. I used
to sometimes, you know, you know, sort of sick and
guess myself. But going into this year and n't really
giving me that green light. Man, I love that gritty
stuff in the middle end, and all the boys have
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bought him. And you can see when we're playing our
best footy at soft forwards, going up through the middle
wind and enjoying it so and then living our back
to through their dance on the on the edges.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
There's so much to look forward to in this game.
There are incredible matchups all over the park. I suppose
one of the ones I look forward to with the
nine and ten and that that pivot's very important on
both sides. But that's getting set up by the Lucy's.
I mean, you're one of your puppetlity Sotutu up against
female Jacobson and Satiti. That that's incredible. I know you
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want to play, but wouldn't that be great to watch?
Speaker 9 (12:41):
Oh? I mean to be honest, if I want to spectator,
I'd be fizzing as well if I want to be
amongst it. But you know this is these are the
games when I'm playing, Those are the matchups that really prove,
you know, like I want to be here and I
want to show what I got because it's the best
verson the best now and and I just can't wait.
And you know, the Chiefs have shown quality players as
one of the lower young players that he saw Wallace
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they're number aided last week and he's in his first year.
He's he's popping off. So and so pen if you
now and Luke Jacobson you know what they had as well.
So now I'm looking forward to these matchups.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Touched on it before any thought towards all black selection representation,
Any communications with Scott robertson any thoughts are tall on
that next step of the twenty four season.
Speaker 9 (13:22):
Oh, to be honest, I haven't really been haven't really
been in contact with him, to be honest. My role
now and what I'm doing is I want to win
something with the Blues. And you know a lot of
people always ask me, you know during the super season,
you know, have you been in contact with the all
black coaches and stuff, But I just tell them, man,
my sole focus is winning a chip with the Blues
and whatever happens you know after that if I do
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your names of all blacks and that's my focus, but
if I know it's all Blues.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
And finally, Dalton Papala and thank you so much for
joining the show. Two parts here? Are you a bit filthy?
You've lost the captaincy? And what do you think's changed
in Super Rugby this year that's attracted the crowds? Is
there any main thrust on why people are actually turning
up to watch these games now because it's been on
the improve, hasn't it?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (14:10):
It has and not filthy losing the captaincy. Man that
Patty's one of my one of my close mates and
I'd follow their manager anywhere, so might as Like I said,
my sole focus is winning, winning a chip with the
Blues and with all the crowds coming. I think it's
probably because the Crusaders are in the finals, so that's
probably That's probably another little factor in all Honestly, I
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think I think the whole Super Rugby comp they're playing
exciting footy. You know, there's no real team that has
drawn away from the comp you know, they're one dominant team.
But like we've we've had the Blues this year. We've
had some close games against the Melbourne Rebels and Quarata.
We just got off you know, we just we just
won and it could have gone either way, and then
we've lost, you know, two games, and a lot of
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games have been close and it's been a lot of
great footy. So I think that's probably been a reason.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Why the right call is your call on eight eighty
Sports Talk All on your home of sports news talks be.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I believe he they're dropping a couple of cylinders in
the chat. I swear he's a v A, but he's
dropped himself down to a V SEX. Paddy tell ups
as the man with a big motor, big block as well.
I'd expect looking forward to the game on Saturday night.
Put this question do at the start of the program.
I've got a few texts on this, but I'd love
to hear your voice of eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
(15:27):
I suppose it comes there and a couple of directions.
Has the product actually been any better this year? Am
I dreaming? I think it has? I think it's been
a superb product this year. Okay, maybe not superb. It's
been a considerably better product this year than previously in
my personal obinion. The amount of games that I've watched.
I think this is exciting. I'm just looking forward to it.
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Why is this? Why is there a newfound interest in
super rugby? And it's built and it's built over the
months of the season. Dalton partly he said one thing.
He said, it's because the Chris aren't there and it's
given everybody hope. I think that was a poke in
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the eye directed my way. But this possibly is one reason.
I have several reasons we I believe that Super Rugby
is a better product this year. People are turning up,
white people are watching it on the TV, more people
are talking about it. What's yours? The lack of crusaders,
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that's reasonably obvious, and get that. What else? And I
talked about this at the start of the season, believing
there are reasons here why we are going to have
a better product, and I'll run through those for you shortly,
but I'd like to hear from you. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty have you climbed on board? Are you going, yes,
this is a better product. This is why. Tell me
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your reasons. I'd love to know. And hey, if it's
been like a wet fart, let me know as well.
There might be people out there going no better, your
delusional mate on eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Lovers or haters,
you're all welcome to the program. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
You can text your thoughts to nine two nine two.
That is zed b, zedb. We're talking at Super Rugby.
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The Grand Final is coming up on Saturday, GUNI, monks,
Why is it attracting so many more people? Why is
it attracting eyeballs? Why is it a better product? If
indeed you think it is most people I talked to, Granted,
I have a lot of friends who enjoy rugby, and
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I spend a lot of time talking to my colleagues
at work, and they're all sporttheads. The general consensus is
this is a better product, This is more fun to watch,
there's more water cooler talk around it. Why what does
it for you? What moved your needle? What tackled your
fancy eight hundred eighty ten eighty Got some text for
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You'd love to hear your voice.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Though, like, okoy, why are you pumping up the tires
of a false economy? Like I'm just so glad that
that there's no Pacifica with their spares and doing the
dancers and then they have to do a Harker and
all that kind of stuff. I mean, people just want
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to see rugby. They want to see a game, don't they.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Okay, so that's what you're saying. I don't you talking
about me pumping tires. It sounds like work and that's
something I don't do. So, but you're you're enjoying this
because of.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
No, I just think it's just I just think it's
it's just quite boring.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Do you think Super Rugby is boring?
Speaker 9 (18:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Totally. I mean I mean it's sort of like we've
ended up where we've ended and and and and and
I'm still I'm still not entertained. I mean, if you
think of The Gladiator, you know, like you to think
of the movie, are you not entertained? And and that's Romans.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
Okay, so Bevan, I'll got my next question. Do you
you is a a your rugby fan? B how much
did you actually watch and see? What do you compare
it to from previous experience.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Well, I suppose if I'm looking at my channels, I'm
looking at rugby league and I'm looking at you know,
you know, I'm looking at the rugby obviously the rugby league,
and then I'm looking for you.
Speaker 8 (19:27):
You.
Speaker 3 (19:27):
Have you watched much rugby union this year compared with
the last few years?
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yes, absolutely, I've watched. I've watched pretty much all of it,
you know, like, it can't.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Be that boring if you've watched a whole lot of it.
What are you doing a massacres.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Well, I'm not going down to the games in the
middle of the night and sitting in a cold stadium
watching the Hurricanes and the Caketon.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well, because they've been playing afternoon football, but you're watching
it on your TV.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
They haven't made How many afternoon games have there been
this year?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
More than more than previously, but not as prevalent as
they should be from twenty years.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
You should be doing that. You should be doing your
re job and getting on on on onto Bloody Robinson.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
I haven't now based on what are you talking about,
Robertson or Robinson Robinson? Okay, Well, and what do you
need to know from Robinson?
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Well, why aren't we Why aren't we seeing more daytime rugby?
Why it hasn't the game moved forward?
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I mean, you know, the game has moved forward. I
think we've got a better a.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
Better product.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
You don't like it. I think it's faster. I think
the changing of the the off side law changing with
the kick it so we don't get kicked tennis anymore.
I think that's made a message.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
You hear about the new did you just hear about
the new t m O rules today?
Speaker 3 (20:53):
I've been talking about that this is a trial, This
has got nothing.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
To have faster. You just you just see that the
game is getting faster.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I talked, I talked about that one of the off
side law changes that's happening. This is a proper those
law changed the TM and I think it's terrible. And
I've already said that that's international rugby looking into the future.
This is not Super Rugby here and now. And I
think the Super Rugby Commission over the last couple of
years have actually listened to what people want and they've
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started to make it a more palatable game. Now you
disagree with it, and you're quite entitled to that. What
I find into seeing thanks to your call is that
you find it a boring product and you don't like it.
You've watched heaps of it this year? Odd, Hi Andrew?
Speaker 10 (21:39):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (21:41):
You know?
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Three? I just want to point out, you know, I'm
one of these, uh you know, fanatics of rugby. Way
back in the early days, we could wreck people and
play and then you know, the code changed, and I
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don't think we could even in those days. I mean,
when there's a lot smart people around, you could ever
really understand why the code really changed? And I think
that's what from my generations. I'm fifty two, but you know,
way I guess and the early well mid nineties, there
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was a lot of stuff going on, but it was
just sort of like why did we need this? I
mean that's just like.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
So why do you need what? I've missed something here?
Why do you need what?
Speaker 10 (22:44):
A complete code change? No one understands the game but
you I.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Mentioned rucking, So you'd like to go back to a
return to that? Is that your primary concern?
Speaker 11 (22:56):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Okay, So how is the how's the game chang? How's
the game change? It's so incredibly different, Like I'm your generation,
a couple of years older, than you, but I you know, yeah,
it has been changed and adjusted over the years, and yes,
sometimes the laws have been extraordinarily confusing, but I do think
it's a move to try and make it easier to understand. Right,
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So yeah, what was the big change for you? Yeah?
Speaker 10 (23:20):
Yeah, so so just generally speaking, my wife is from
Europe and she follows football, and she's a great football fan.
She understands, you know, football through and through, and you know,
twenty five years on, she's still trying to understand rugby.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Okay, Well, I mean and thanks for your call. And
I think there's a there's a major difference between rugby
and football football, and the reason it's been so successful
is it is extraordinarily simple. Rugby's complex. The rules are confusing.
We know that they do change all the time. World
rugby are constant, are looking at changing and adjusting. Some
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things they've got right, some things they've got horribly wrong.
This time, Super Rugby have turned around and said, hey,
look there's one glaring problem here. Kicked tennis, we're going
to change this. Was it you partly started that, I
think it was, so they've changed it. In football, you
kick the ball and the net you get a point. Yeah,
there's an off side law, and there used to be
an away goals or all where that's gone. And the
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subtleties and the variants around football are enormous but based
on a very very simple premise and that's why it's
so successful. But I get that. And to come over
and fully engage and understand rugby, I think after twenty
five years, maybe Andrew she just doesn't wat's enough. Twenty
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five away from eight?
Speaker 8 (24:47):
Hi?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Greg, how are you going pretty good? How are you going?
Speaker 11 (24:53):
Oh? Yeah, I'm doing all right mate. They football is
my game, but I watched league and lots and lots
of rugby and I'm enjoying I'm enjoying.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
The rugby more so than last year of previous editions.
Speaker 11 (25:04):
Well, yeah, I guess. So my biggest concern, I guess
is I hope that rugby globally doesn't sell out to
the Middle East. You know that offer that's well, that
suggestion that's been put on the table about a global
game being staged in parts of the Middle East, and
that money.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
And that and you know what that is. This is
this is a circling menace. It's a black hole and
it's going to suck every sport. Every sport's being sucked.
They can't our money and I and it would be
a shame that you.
Speaker 11 (25:36):
Know, absolutely absolutely, But it's interesting that the Americans are
trying to adopt league, you know, in Las Vegas and
that all that sort of thing. But I think, look, at.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
The end of the day, I did Leagues an easier
game to pick up for the American audience, I really do,
and I'd say for people who don't, it's at the Again,
the premise is a lot. It's a lot more simple
than we've seen in rugby union. They and it's got
the big hits, and it's got the aggression and the running.
It hasn't made it's maybe quite not as nuanced. There's
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a lot more subleties around rugby. But also with that
comes mass confusion about how to referee it and what
takes you going on out in the middle.
Speaker 11 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, well that's true. I mean, I've got I've
got some friends over. I was talking to a guy
the other night who I mean, I'm the sixties and
I haven't seen him for thirty odd years. But these
in La now it's I love those leagues. Rushing backs,
you know, the rushing backs, which is the American way
of describing whatever player on the field rushing at the
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line and all that sort of thing. But look, yeah,
I'm concerned about rugby union man.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
I just yeah, can.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
You isolate so to see you think it's slightly better?
Is there any particular reason? What's your biggest concern.
Speaker 11 (26:57):
I'll tell you what I'd like to see. I'd like
to see a comp that's all New Zealand teams and
it's not going to happen. And well, no, I'm talking
about the five franchises because you could see, like we
just saw the Blues play the Brumbies in at Eden Park, right, yeah,
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now that was a knockout game, correct me if I'm wrong.
It was the commentator if I heard him right, one
of them said there were fifteen thousand people.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
There and to you that for a knockout game, it
could be a lot more. Okay, I don't want to
defend it because I think that that is problematic, right,
But I'd say there's two reasons behind us. One of
these insane reasons is it is a super rugby knockout
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game on a Friday night, kicking off at seven o'clock
in Auckland City. That in itself is bizarre. They deserved
a small crowd. They can't do that for those of
you that stand in Auckland City, you can't between the
hours of five and seven, let alone get anywhere. So
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that's one reason. Maybe people are thinking, Wow, the Chiefs
might beat the hurricane, so we'll just come back next
week the final. I don't know. It's a bit of
a loose excuse, but Greg, I say, more people are watching,
more engaging. It's a full house because it's a final
coming up. But it's still not what it should be
in the eyes of Super Rugby. But it is on
the improved, is it. I don't know.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
Am I still talking here?
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Sorry? Greg, I'll get a bit excited.
Speaker 4 (28:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Absolutely agree. The Friday night thing, but you know that's
that's logistical planning, bloody idiots. Maybe they could make saday
are two thirty on Saturday and all kids a under
fifteen three thirty thousand, Yes, and all the food vendors,
all the food vendors might have made some money.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
You know, need a reason to come, make it a reason,
give us every excuse we need to get up and go. Agreed,
Thanks very much for your call, thanks for bringing those
points up. Four o'clock Friday kickoff to us. You give
us all on an excuse to skive off work early.
I say, okay, how's that going to work? When you
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produce heather between four and seven? She won't even notice
on that terrible job. Maybe afternoon games eighteen it's twenty
to eight more of your course, still to count our
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty? What's done it
for you?
Speaker 8 (29:36):
In sleeve?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
For rugby this year? Go on? Are you watching more?
Is it a better product? Is it the fact that
the Crusaders were absolutely rubbish so people love buying into that?
Is it the the law changes to encourage a counter
attack not just kicking tennis? Is it the fact that
there's a new all black coach. A lot of the
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old guys have departed and so suddenly there's all these
opportunities for guys to get into the orban. Are they
playing better based on that? Is it the new coaches
and the side? Is it the social media? I don't know,
Let me know, I'm keen on eighty ten eighty lines
are open, their news dogs beds away, your booster workings?
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Is your truck.
Speaker 12 (30:21):
Mine?
Speaker 9 (30:22):
It's fun for all the crowds coming. I think it's
probably because the Crusader's one in the finals, so that's
probably that's probably another little factor.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Dulton, Papa Li thanks for that, Dulton, which could be true.
Though everybody has a chance. They're like the Wicked Witch
is dead. We don't have that shadow over top of
all of us. Other teams can shine. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. What's done for you? What's peaked
your interest? What's moved you need or I've got a
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few texts for you, but let's get back to the phones. Gooday, Murray,
what's done for you?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (31:01):
Gooday, don't so here you are?
Speaker 3 (31:02):
You're good.
Speaker 9 (31:04):
Hey.
Speaker 13 (31:04):
I thought your article by the way and the news
was fantastic just as a as a Starde issue. I
think well done on that. That was brilliant thing.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah all good.
Speaker 13 (31:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I think it's important that people know it's not a
death sentence and it's can be managed and it's actually
a good thing.
Speaker 13 (31:17):
So thanks for that, mate, I thought, honestly, openly, I
thought it was fantastic, So give for you.
Speaker 8 (31:22):
Well.
Speaker 13 (31:25):
I've thoroughly enjoyed super Ugly this year. Absolutely loves it.
I've watched a huge amount of it. I've thought it's
been highly entertaining. I think the referees by and large
done a very good job of a very unenviable position
that they're in with the rules around the game. But
I think they've taken a much more common sense approach
by and large, I think the rugby has improved acquently.
I think they try and minimize the time wasteing, making
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you know, players move more quickly to the scrums to
line outs has been really effective. I think the comparedness
of the Australian starts, particularly in Australia, has also really
added to the competition.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
So it's a been a surprise, isn't it.
Speaker 10 (32:00):
Murray.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
I don't think anyone saw that coming. Everyone's like he
be going again, run straight out of the top of them,
and suddenly they started playing. It's like, well, okay, this
adds an extra level. Not as well as they would
like to, but they've been relevant competition for a lot
of the time.
Speaker 11 (32:16):
Well.
Speaker 13 (32:16):
I think I think the consistency of some of the
some of their wins is that they've always in the
last few years had wins here and there, but actually
to see you know, to see the Reds either the
Rebels are tailed off but at the start of the
season actually having a number of wins, and the drumby's
quite consistent, essentially fantastic, and so I think for me,
all those things have combined to make a terrific Super
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Rugby season. Which is not to say that the game
doesn't have some challenges to face like many professional sports
in that matter, but no, I think overall it's been
I've loved it. I've I've been able to get along
to Eden Park to the majority of the home games,
have really enjoyed the experience. They're trying to engage the
fans a lot more and I think they're doing a
good job of it. And just I'm just ecstatic to
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see that it's sold out for this weekend. It's sold
out in a matter of ours, so so amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
You've been along to a few of the games, Marriy,
you see that the fan experience is improving on what
front particularly.
Speaker 13 (33:14):
I think they're actually that they appreciate that. You you know,
you need to engage the fan, not just with the
with the game. I mean, the game has to speak
for self ultimately, because you can do all the other
things that if you need to watch rogue in the
product's crap, you won't. You won't be going back. And
what they are doing is have the way that they
try to engage cares. You've got you know, you know,
three flags to everyone that goes in. You know, they
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have the crowd engagement m and the IKMS plus that
they do and you know eat half home entertainment. I
mean the like show that was done, the laser show
that was done at the semi final against the brun
which was absolutely amazing. I mean, that was that was fantastic.
And they're oftenly just a little you know sort of
you know games or all competitions that they're doing enough times,
so they're just trying to do different things. There's still
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things that they can improve on. But overall, like I said,
I I just I've had I've just thoroughly enjoyed the
you know, the rugby this year, I think, and I
say the utmost respect to the Crusaders, given them, I
spent half a time in christ Church, but I think
the fact that they struggled makes it has made also
made the competition also more entertaining, because I think the
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competition needed a different winner and again I say that
with the utmost respect to what an extraordinary crusaders died
in Canterbury Regions for rugby. But to have a different
winner is going to be is going to be good?
Good for the competition?
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Well, the proof of the pudding is in the eating
and the Auckland crowds, and also handy that the Chiefs
is just up the road. They're gobbling down sleep for
rugby this weekend and that proves a whole lot.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Sure, maybe it's a final, and maybe people are going
because it's more of an occasion as opposed to a
standard game. But the trend has been people want to
go back. There's still a lot more to do though,
isn't the marriage I.
Speaker 13 (34:55):
Think you Zeelan, if you look at his Ziln fans fotasity,
I mean we've become quite event central, haven't we. Like
I mean, if you look in general, I mean you
look at the Blackburn's Rugby brock Cup final, which I
was privileged, you have an extraordinary occasion. I mean you
compare that to the crowds of black Funds, even though
they are a really loved side. If you look at
the general audiences that they're getting at the games now,
(35:19):
they haven't grown as consistently if you compare them to
say to you know, to the United Kingdom. So so
I think there's still I think as in general, I
mean compared to the football ferns over here, I mean
are lucky if they probably get a thousand people at
the game. Yet at the at the Women's Super World Cup,
but we had we have sold out stadiums. So I
think we've become quite event centric fans, which is something
(35:41):
again all professional codes need to look at in this country.
I can't wait for Saturday. I think it's going to
be an incredibly occasion and I'm very happy I've got
my tickets and can't wait.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
It's going to be a massive event. And yet event
centric that's that's too true, and people do enjoy like
that's that whole fear of missing out thing, isn't it. Well,
you're there. Note It's nice to have that call though, Murray,
thanks for that, canay, Jason.
Speaker 12 (36:11):
Yet I think this proofect storm has been in the
making for quite a while. To be fair, I actually
rate it. I don't think there's only any one particular thing.
I think, for me, one of the big things that
there's been a bit of a stippery slope is when
the South African teams, you know, when they went north.
I mean, I know the timing of those games over
and Transveil and all that, they weren't ideal, But there's
(36:32):
something about those three a M. Four AM games that
keep the intrigue even if you didn't watch them live.
I think it's it's diluted. It's made the competention quite
weak with those teams not been there.
Speaker 9 (36:46):
That to it.
Speaker 12 (36:46):
You know that that on the road when they to
go over those parts of the world, that was that
sort of the book men out from the boys. I
think that's sort of made it weak. I think our
men in the Northern hemisphere had got their wish. I
think the efty powered the game to such a point
now where it's just become predictably boring to be fair
well so this.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Season though you haven't found need traction for yourself, You've
not listening on, Hey, this is actually not a bad product.
This is not the case for you.
Speaker 12 (37:12):
I hate saying that I haven't got excited. I don't
think I've watched more than twenty minutes. And the biggest
thing I get really grumpy about and Rugany's got to
sort this out because it's become so pathetic. Is this
advantage role where you can have a minor infringement, say
high tackle, and they go and they and three minutes
later it again runs all the way back fifteen phases.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
That's just nuts.
Speaker 12 (37:34):
If you've if you've got the ball, you've made something
with it, You've even if you've gone five meters and
you haven't made a mistake, that that advantage has accruded
my eyes. So I then they need to sort that
out because that's just absolutely ridiculous. And what it's doing
is actually no team can absolutely get the other team
on the ropes now because they spend four or five
minutes going back and slowing it down so much and
having a look, the other teams actually got their breath back.
(37:58):
It's the other thing too, though, for me, is why
why not this game and why something else? Did you
see that theater that unfolded at Pinehurst for those four rounds?
Speaker 9 (38:06):
I don't I missed it.
Speaker 12 (38:07):
I don't think I missed a minute.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
I missed enough of it, but I saw the last
nine holes and it was astonishing. I get you on that.
That was something else. Hey, Jason, thanks very much for
your call, almost trying to wind things up. Dunny's on
the line, get a mate, how are you?
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Good days from Castle Hill Mountain village on the Great
Alpine Highway, number seventy three, very brief.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
I know the place well, Thank you.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
Yes, I think the demise of the driving rucking game
has been a really detrimental thing for professional rugby. Also,
scrum coaches, I think have created this monolist where we
have packed spending ages to set, then a scrum half
(38:52):
simply rolls it into the second row. Anyway, bring back
the days of hookers where they genuinely competed tight head
won or lost, could make or change a game, just
throwing it out there for what it's worth.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
And Donny, thank you very much for throwing it in
our direction. It is eight minutes to eight. I finished
just some texts, plenty of them coming up shortly here
on sports Tour. It's five minutes to eight, Tim Beverage
(39:28):
and the hot seat tonight for Marcus Lush. He'll have
you between eight and midnight of it had an eighty
ten eighty couple of quick texts before we exit stage it.
Tim Beveridge. What did I say? No, I said Tim
Beveridge in for Marcus Lush. I'm being told off, but
I think Tim Beveridge sitting in the producer studio learn
(39:48):
to listen. I know he's bigger than I am. Don't
say that. Let's just run through a couple of quick text.
What an excellent fellow a Dulton pupulicar he is. That
was a lovely interview, even forgiven for the Crusader's crack,
mainly because it really was a backhanded compliment. Darcy SKYTEV.
You don't give a toss about turn up crowds. That
means people will watch the game on TV exposed to
(40:08):
add Sky subscriptions at dollars dollars dollars. I'm for taking
our families to an afternoon game and dealing with the wind.
It's all part of rugby psychology. Nuts, but yeah, it's great.
Darcy Super Rugby died as a competition when South Africa left.
Darcy Siper Rugby has not been a great product. Besides
the Canes versus the Chief semi, it's been lackluster except
(40:30):
for the Crusaders getting smashed. That's from Steve's a little
people took an unhealthy amount of joy out of that,
didn't they as the social media rights another from the players,
They've really ramped that game up. Darcy. I'm a huge
fan of rugby, but this year I only watched three
Crusaders games. I can't really comment whether it's better or not,
but I think the last couple of years from Zealand
teams versus Zealand teams and the team I involved just
(40:53):
got bored of it. I got bort a so much
of it and I'm putting it out to the sad
is not playing well. I'm intioned to see if we'll
actually get behind the abs Hamish. Thank you very much, Darcy,
alve my rugby. I refuse to go to Eden Park.
It is just too difficult get it down town. And
someone wants to know how Graham is. Has anyone checked
on Graham lately? Gramy, you out there, people are care
(41:16):
for you. Go on, get behind the Blues or the Chiefs. Cram.
I know you can do it, two of the Crusader's
favorite oppositions. Thanks for producing the program, Ands Ministered, Thanks
for all of you for your calls for your texts.
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