October 17, 2024 • 43 mins
ZB's own D'Arcy Waldegrave returns to recap a full day in the world of sport! Highlights for tonight include:
Fred de Jong - Former All White and New Zealand Kingz player - On how successful the new Auckland FC club will be?
Jared Lawson - Liam Lawson's father on his sons recent F1 success.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome on in this is sports Talk. My name's Darcy
Watergrave on news Talk zed B. Up In tonight's program
me him that guy and lots of you. Who's the
hym and who's the that guy? Who do you want
to be? Producer duff him or that guy? That guy?
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The him we're talking about. Fred Deyong joins this shortly
former all white Football Kings player talking about the opening
game and what is important to this brand spanking new
football club. Where's success sit? What are the key parameters
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for them in this season? How important is it that
they've got a loaded boss or owners? More of the
point plenty on that, and then we'll talk to you
about that subject. First game up against this weekend, it's
looking like a sellout. It's starting off very well. But
how much rope do we give the team before people
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go King's Knights and out they walk? I know that
sounds awfully negative, but I am the media after all.
What part of it? Anyway? That's our plan to start
with your cause of one hundred and eighty ten eighty
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charge does apply and also on the program toward the
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end of the show, father of Formula One driver Liam
Lawson to join us. He drives this weekend. He's finally
secured a contract, albeit for the last six races of
the season, but he's not replacing a broken Daniel Ricardo,
which is what happened last time they sacked Daniel Ricardo.
And he's there full time well to the end of
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the season anyway. Liam Lawson running this weekend at the
Formula One at Cota over in Austin, Texas. Sharon joins
us to talk about the long journey that his son
has undertaken to get to the top of the motor
sport world. That is later on in the piece, and
I'll attempt to keep up today. What's going on in
the cricket. She's been fairly exciting so far. A bit
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of rain, a handful of wickets and plenty more action
to come. That's the master plans. Dan, Let's get monkst today.
It's for today. It's been a late start, but the
little cricket on show so far has given black cap
fans are shot on the Army Shastri here with the
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classic call when Suffers was dismissed.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
What a cats, What a catch that is that it's
surpris looking to break free, has the freedom to go
back to the dressing room.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Now, I love your workmate. Half back Camroy Guard has
hinted at a positional switch to the key pivot position.
The half pack back on track is taking the purse
right right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Maybe it's super rugby. I don't know, it just depends obviously.
Now Britt Cameron's out for the Hurricanes for a wee while,
so I don't think I'll be ever starting there. But
maybe it might be one of those ones where I
start at nine and then push out to ten. But yeah,
never say never. But at the moment, I'm trying to
obviously get back to play some good footy.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
In the America's Carp, Britannia skipper Sir Bena Ainsley and
his crew spend all of their laid day floating about
on the briny deep searching every breaker and clump of kelp,
and eventually found exactly what they were looking for.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Able to get out of similar conditions to today and
really try and find those gains. So part of the
team for the work Effect to do just that. It's
still really tough. You know, we know the Kiwis are
a great team, but for us, we've got to ride
this momentum now and keep getting ourselves back into the game.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
In zed wy Yes has had their lead sliced into
it's now four plays to the British gaining on the
New Zealanders with the games they gained there in the
game again and Silver Firm defender Karen Berger is welcoming
back fellow defender Phoenix Kataka welcome her into the fray.
There are benefits for.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
All, so just heaving her back in the mix and
sharing with her what we've learned over the last few
weeks and making sure that we support her as much
as we can to sloten easily, but also that she's
able to bring her flare and whatever she brings to
the team as well.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And Let's Sport Today holds it up for Bari looking
to shoot again, Borry puts one into the top corner
and the Knights go whatnot. You can see the ecstasy
on the faces.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Of the squad. And after producing the program, that guy,
when on Earth did you find that? I had no idea?
There was still coverage left from that era. Wh did
you dig it out of a whole simee where you
went mining? Didn't you? Stunning bit of coverage for the
very few times the Kings actually managed to play. So
the Knights managed to actually Playcey mixed it up Kings
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and Nights. So on that subject of Kings at the Knights,
Let's hope that AKFC EFECA Auckland FC don't go down
the same horrid path and we've got enough to support
two A League teams here in New Zealand. Will the
club work? Will it have success games this weekend for
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Auckland FC, it's almost been sold out. Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about what success means and what has to
be done as this team dips its toe into the
A League water. Fred Deyong from All White Football Kings
player joins us. Now Fred, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Mate, cheers mate, lovely to chat again and looking forward
to a good A League season with two New Zealand
teams for the first time, which will be which would
be interesting to see how they go.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Let's start, we need to start. AKFC have done everything
they can to get fans on board, to get the
media on board, to show a good positive face to
step into the A League going we are here, we
mean business. What markets do they have to hit to
prove that? What do they actually have to do to
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try and get rid of us bose the memories of
the Knights and the Kings and other failed expeditions of
the A League into Auckland.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, And I think they've done a really good job
in that with the club engagement with the local clubs
in the Auckland area. I think you know, all the
all the media they've had has been positive. They've they've
put on a very collegial face to the organization which
has been fantastic, which has been really good. Bottom line,
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first hurdle, don't lose the first game. I think that
was where the Kings and Knights fell over. I remember
playing in that first Carlton game for the Kings, and
you know, there's a there's a whole bunch of excitement
and around the around Auckland for professional football in Auckland.
And then we blew it on the first on the
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first night we lost three in al and sort of
it really put a dampner on that on that on
that first first week of the competition and so I
think first and foremost, don't lose the first game, and
then after that, I think it's put on an experience
at Mount Smart Stadium, and I think the Warriors do
that very well. I think you've got to make it
an event. And I think the the A League and
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Auckland and they've see a blessed in that there's not
a whole lot of football or a whole lot of
sport in Auckland around this time of year, so they've
got a pretty clear runway to exploit and so if
they engage really well results go their way, then I
think you could see this grow and grow, which would
be fantastic for football in this part of the country.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So you've got no rope back in the old days,
one bad loss and suddenly everyone walked. How much rope
has this team got? How much good will? How long
before people go Okay, it's over. Now your honeymoon period's gone,
we want results. What do you think? They're pretty harsh
football fans here in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I think week three. I think though, if things aren't
going well, especially after the match against the Phoenix, I
think then you might find some things turn a little negative.
But when you look at this squad. The squad is strong.
Are they going to gel as a football team? That
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remains to be seen. But they have you know, five imports,
which is five overseas imports, which is probably more than
most clubs in the A League. How good they are
yet to be seen, but you know, good pedigree. Got
a very very experienced captain and Hiroki Sakai, you know,
three World Cups for Japan, and so you know he's
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he's a very very good player coming obviously coming near
the end of his career, but still you know, have
a player of that caliber and your side leading the
team is very good. Good signing, you know, and so
you know, you go through the other the other imports
and you know there's Colombian, Uruguay and Chile and Belgium,
so you know, good footballing countries. And so I think
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if they're at the at the if they're of the
quality of some of the imports we've seen that the
Phoenix have unearthed, then I think Auckland f C are
in a really good spot.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Fredong joining the program, how much will money paper over
any cracks that may appear in this club. They've got
some big back and some big swinging. You know what
I'm going to say, a lot of coin. Does that
alleviate anything to a degree? As the players and the
team don't feel like they're playing for survival based on
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the amount of crowd that turned up, is this going
to help them?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Absolutely? Absolutely. Look around the world, every league in the world,
the teams with the biggest budgets are at the top
of the table. It doesn't matter which where you look.
Budgets equate to position on the table. So if the
owners are willing to spend the money, then you're in
a good spot. You know. And maybe not in year one,
maybe not in year two, but by year three I
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would have thought that, you know, you'd have worked out
a whole lot of the issues that come up with
starting a franchise from scratch. You've bedded in, you know,
the players feel comfortable and they can just concentrate on,
you know, playing football. Whereas like at the moment, you've
got five imports who have moved their families or themselves
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into New Zealand have to get settled in, you know,
work their way around the city, all those sorts of things.
You get you've got to get used to that sort
of thing. But after why you know, you start to think, Okay,
now I can really concentrate on delivering and money always helps.
And I think you know that that is the biggest
difference between Auckland FC and the Kings. And the Knights.
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They have the money, They've said they're going to spend
the money, and so if that is the case, then
I see no reason why they shouldn't be successful and
pretty quickly as well.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
All sports teams talk about making home a fortress. How
important is it that they get their own ground sooner
rather than later? Look Mount Smart Go Media Stadium. All
well and good, but the noise made by Foley early
in the pieces I would like to build a stadium.
Now there's sorts of taking over Western Springs. They've got
the right colored strip to get over there, I tell you,
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But how important for them to actually create a home
that is is that isn't just temperant and how long? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean when when Bill Foley said that, you know,
early when he when the team was launched, I mean
that was music to the years, not just the football people.
I think of anyone who's been in a really good
stadium around the world would love to see Auckland with
a rectangular stadium that's not ruined by cricket, that's you know,
purpose built for a rectangular field. And you know, we
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would hope that there would be you know, a group
of people, local government, central government, the different sports that
would use it. Everyone, I think, with every sporting person
would love to have that sort of stadium as opposed
to just pouring money down the sinkhole that is Eden Park.
But you know, we'll see, we'll see. I mean that's
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a long term proposition. You know, you're talking probably a decade.
But as it as it stands now, I think Mount
Smart's the second best thing that they've got. So you
know you've got to go with that. And for the interim,
that's where you have to be very good and you
have to get results at Munt Smart.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Ste Bill Folly told me he's a doer, he gets
things done. I was like, Bro, you've never dealt with
the Auckland Council before, you say, I think he's at
worked out. Fred de Yong joining us. When we look
at the breakers, they've been a very successful team in
a Trans Tasman competition. They have had great success as
far as winning the competition. They regularly fill their basketball
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court up. You'd suggest it's because the NBL is a
very well respected league in global basketball. The A League, however,
isn't up in that echelon. How much do you think
that will affect people going to watch this?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think if Auckland FC can turn on a show
and make it different, and I think this is where
Bill Foley and not the franchise or the sort of
the global organization, the Black Knights organization as a whole
that runs Bornemouth, that runs the Vegas Knights, that runs
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Hibbs and other Laureons and France, these organs all sit
under the same umbrella. If the learnings from that, especially
the American market, if they can be brought here to
put on a real show, then I think, you know,
the the crowds, the support will be very strong because
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it'll be different, make it really different, make it make
it something that people just want to go along to
and and be entertained, because we're not that good at
that in New Zealand, you know, I mean I go
to a we film a lot of rugby and stuff,
and boy, the one thing you really hate is all
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the music that gets piped through the sound speaker. You know,
the sound system at these stadiums and it's just like
every time the ball goes out and it's like, get
rid of that. Let the crowd be the ones to
make the noise, encourage people to yell and scream. Put
a band in the stand. They do that a lot
in Europe, you know, have have a few trumpets and
a and a trombone and that sort of thing, and
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let them generate the songs for the crowd to sing
along to, that sort of thing. So just be different
and I think if if they if they can capitalize
on that, then I think the crowds will continue to
come along and.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Of course win first and foremost. Tell you what, Fred
de Young, if anyone turns up with a Voover zella,
I'm never going to announce, don't even start with that. Mate.
You have a great weekend and enjoy yourself and thanks
for your time as always, Thanks mate. Right call is your.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Sports Talk all on your home of sports news Talk.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
By Fred. That's Fred DeJong e form all White Football
Kings play from way back when football commentator and pundit
talking about the success of Auckland FC. How will they
attain success? How will the retain success? What does success
look like. They want you, they want me. They want
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the people of Auckland to climb on board this bandwagon,
as all sports teams do, in order to propel them
up the ladder and more importantly, keep them solvent. They're
not going to go broke. The guy who owns a
Blazer billionaire, he's got plenty of cash. You'll pitch fork
money into the club until he's tied and then he
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will go away. Whether his money will be able to
buy the team's success another question when you look at
salary caps. But what's around the team as far as
the support and the traveler and all the rest of
it will cover that. So they're fine and they're not
going to be playing worried about if their club is
going to still be financially viable. I think that's an
issue here. What the issue is is how long Aucklanders
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will stick around and how long Aucklanders will support this team.
How much rope will they give this team. New Zealander's
got to buy in as well. But I'm looking at
the people who turn up and go to the ground
and go to the game, because if it's empty there,
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it'll empty everywhere else. Surely, it will, it's going to work.
What do they have to do? What are your parameters
as a football fan or a casual sport fan, because
I'm sure no one wants to see this team fail.
They've worked very hard so far. They've done a lot
of media pushes, community works. You're dead. They've got a
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lot of high profile athletes involved as well. Steven Adams
Williams that this goes on. They've got some big investors
behind them, but it all falls apart if they don't win,
and if they get off to a horrible star. The
Indians have lost another one. Raju's just been gone. O'Rourke's
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got a third. Oh it's gone for nought of six deliveries.
I'm sorry, I really look look a bird. I get
thirty three for five, now pants still in fourteen for forty,
while this forteen off for forty. Excuse me? This is insane.
Way back to the focus on that if they don't win,
how much rope do they get? How long does the
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football public of New Zealand put up with them? I'd
like to think that I'll be made to eat my words.
They'll get off to a rousing start, they'll thrash Brisbane,
and they'll carry on and they'll be up toward the
top of the table by the end of the year.
They've got one hundred and ninety eight weeks of play
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to keep people engaged. That's a long time. One hundred
and ninety eight did I say weeks? One hundred and nine?
One hundred and ninety eight eight days to keep people
and go, it's a long time. First and foremost, Win.
Don't care what the entertainment's like at the ground and
killed the music's like, none of that bothers me. Win
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and they will come. What do you want to see?
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Speaker 5 (19:40):
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But enough about that, let's go back to the subject
and hand. This is Auckland FC entering the A League
this weekend, nearly sold out at Mount Smart But will
it work? Will the club work? What is working? To you?
Purely victory? Will it work? It's a big punt. It's
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a big it's a big punt and it's not worked
in Auckland before today. Craig, how are you?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Oh no, it's bad. I'm glad you deleted all country
withstenal computer.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'm not looking at you out And it's not his fault.
It's not the producer's fault. It's a technical issue.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
No, no, no, no, no, it's probably marketing or something. Yeah,
I reckon, it's quite a good of another team in there.
I mean I did agree with what the guy is
saying with the music and this. Venues have been to
a few games and stuff and sometimes you're sitting there
listening to the crowd getting into it. All the rest
three and it's drowned out by some guy playing old
sixties women, old eighties women songs like the PA System.
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It's like, really, I think they sometimes tend to be
a little bit over the top. They're not really into
what's going on with the crowd. Sometimes it gets a
little bit crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's art fish, wasn't it. That's what it is.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Yeah, it's like you get into the atmosphere and you
hear some sort of pop song from nineteen eighty. It's like, really, okay,
it's not really it goes with the part of the
game anyway. But yeah, I reckon they got rid of
that probably be quite good, or toned it down a bit.
But the other things, like maybe what they could do
is maybe the players could go to schools and there
for soccer things and all that, and if you get
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their face amongst the kids, because I guess if you
get the kids interested in it, they want to go
to the thing, They're probably going to drag the parents
along to the game as well. And maybe they could
do something similar to the weepix cards for the Rugby
you have like cards so you could collect.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And they've already been very present when it comes to
going to clubs, visiting schools and the like that they're
trying to get a core at the early stage. It
makes the perfect sense. But if they're not winning, none
of this matters, does it.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Well, unless you can get the supporters of the same
sort of Unless you can get the supporters of the
right of the sorry football the same as the Warrior supporters,
because they could be losing, you still get a fat crowd.
I think you need to basically get New Zealand behind
the team and just like, hey, they might be losing,
but somehow I'll get to the point where you're a
supporting team whether they win or lose, whereas a lot
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of teams tend to be if they lose it but
people give up with them go somewhere else. But you
look at the Warriors, they're hard sporch supporters stick behind
them whether they're losing or not.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So well, it's twenty five years that history and that's
built that faith, hasn't it art within the side. Although
there had been times where Mount Smart and Go media
whatever has been desolate, it's been a ghost town. It's
not always been like this.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yeah, well maybe, I mean, if they get some good
overseas players that people in New Zealand know, then maybe
it would probably bring a little bit more towards it.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
It's a tough one, but he's say they it's not
going to win, and then people are going to probably
get pretty cold on the game really quickly.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And Craig, you mentioned soccer before, so means that it
suggests you're probably not the biggest fan in the world
with all true respect. Are you actually going to go?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I do call it football, but I do think a
lot of people in New Zealand, you know what, most
people call it soccer.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Are you going to go?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I've been to a few games over over in the
UK many years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Are you going to go to Auckland FC.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
I'm in ways that's not far to hit up the road.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Are you going to go?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
If I'm going to, yeah, I'll go because I'm interested
to see how they do. You know, I'm going to.
You've got to support your local, well technically local team,
so I would go and actually see it goes. But
other think it should be quite a good atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well you'd hope so, and that atmosphere will get built.
Then there's a number of aspects of playing football that
will build an atmosphere, but the big one is winning.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Where about are they're going to be playing anyway?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Do you know Mount Smart Go Media Stadium?
Speaker 7 (24:12):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, well it's a hard place to get to, but
people can't get there. And I've seen a lot of
our threads on social media of various football groups. How
we going, where should we meet? Let's do this? So
there are plans afoot.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Yeah, I'm listening, going to go to. What we're interesting
to see is how many people go to on like cold, wet,
yucky nights where they're still going to Boy, the going
that would be hardcore supporters.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But well that's the best thing about when it was playing, though,
because it plays predominantly through summer, so they don't have
to worry about that grief. I'll just leave that to
the warriors, right.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, as long as this woman global warming thing
don't kick any feether. But yeah, but yeah, you know,
it's good insuring conversation anyway, so I'll look forward to
hearing some more. But that's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Great, good on you mate, Thanks very much, and thanks
for finally conceding he will actually go albeit from Hamilton
from the white couple who is still going to go
And that's think you think you produce a daff it's
going to work. It relies too heavily on success. For me,
you look at the lack of success of Auckland rugby teams.
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That's supposed to be our national game and you wouldn't
say that. The crowds turning up at the Blues have
been exactly impressive. Won the title. Auckland EBC team haven't
been that much. It's been reflected in the crowds. The
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breaker is different in the fact that breakers is they're
an NBL level, which is of very high quality Globally.
You can't put the A League up there. It's just
simply not there globally. It's an okay comp. It's very
local comp. You haven't got the stars there and when
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it comes to breakers, you just have to stuff eight
thousand people in the gym. I know, not this one.
I was about to say that. I was about to say,
at least no one's playing Sweet Caroline. If they play
this at the game, it's all yeah, so this is
hard and I don't think they've left any stone unturned
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alither'll be doing everything they possibly can, because Bill Foley
won't just chuck his money into a black hole. He's
a billionaire for a reason. Is it actually going to work?
If they don't win by Christmas the place will be empty?
Twenty five to eight. This is sports talk on that
News Talk ZB.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
We fill it up with only too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Charming, up being hot out Sports Talk on that News
Talk ZB. It is a lunch in the first Test.
There's day two and you're staggering thirty four for six. Yikes.
Right away from cricket, let's get on to football now.
Hamish joins us he is a Phoenix fan. Are you
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a Phoenix fan from Wellington or a Phoenix fan from
up around this neck of the woods.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
No, I'm a Knicks fan from Wellington way back.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So when you look at this Auckland football club, what's
going to make it work? I mean you've watched the
Phoenix over twenty odd years. What's worked for them? How's
it going to work for these guys?
Speaker 10 (27:36):
I think we all know it's taking the Knicks a
long time to get to get any progress and start
showing really good results. So for the Auckland team, and
like one knocks till I die, So I don't care
if he'd lose all the games, but as they got
fifty percent, then I think that's a web for the season.
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It's hard, you know, it's hard, hard work to set
up a team, right, That's said all the time around
the world. Steph, is it Steve Core?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, Like he's a good coach that new players.
You know, they don't have any game time behind them,
so it's a tough gig.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, I what about the pressure on their shoulders as
well from not only the crowds, but I expect the management.
The guy's playing for it all because he's he's a winner,
right this.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
Yeah, the NHL team, there's this hockey team. They probably
one of the only teams that have gone on and
won in their first season, right, So he probably wants results.
But yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be expecting them to win.
The thing, wouldn't?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Is money going to help? You can't with the salary
cap pull money at the top players, but money everywhere else?
Would that assist? Do you think?
Speaker 10 (28:56):
I wouldn't say, would this season not? You know, maybe
for ten years until they have their own stadium and
training grounds and all that sort of stuff. I don't
think it would have a great impact. Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well, looking forward to the game they play against your
mob famous that will be oh yeah, something else that
really will. So the.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Rivalry is slowly bubbling away.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's great, yeah, And I think that a lot of
people are relying on that, even though it's only a handful.
What is it three three games throughout the season, three
or two one hundred and ninety eight days. It's three rounds,
isn't it anyway? Regard it doesn't matter. Mark, thanks very
much for that, Sorry, how much? Thanks for that? We
(29:46):
go to Mark. Now, Hi mate, how are you?
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I'm bloody good man, I'm really good. Hey. Just to
give you an idea of how they operate. My mum,
she's eighty five. She went to a function and she
bought a shirt and they offered to free tickets. This
is AC and she couldn't work out how to get
the electronic tickets. So I got on to Mike Clayton
(30:12):
from AFC and said, look, she's she can't do it,
and he fired them through to be and I explained
that Mane was the next coach, club coach, rep coach whatever,
and they just went out of their way to help,
and that's if that's how they're going to continue in
I reckon that's they've got a bloody good They've got
(30:36):
a bloody good culture already.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I can't ignore the potential fan base. But how much
mark does that assistance that love? How long does that
last for if the results aren't coming.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
I wouldn't want to be sitting next to mom and
in the stands because she'll be telling them what they're
doing wrong, and everywhere.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Your mother in the stands, I've got.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
To sit next to her. But I've done that for years,
so that's cool. But I think that they're doing it right.
They're trying to get it going and hopefully it works
on the field, but they're doing everything behind the scenes correctly,
and if they can build that base up. I mean,
(31:23):
the Phoenix went flesh when they started. Who were they really?
But I think that these guys can actually do it
and follow through. And but they seem to have the
back office right, which is cool.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
We wish them all the best, unless, of course, you're
a Phoenix fan like Hamous, in which case you don't
wish anything of them.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
That's any good, Oh, Hamous, Well, if we want to
play them four times if we meet them in the
semis ye, who knows.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But I don't think any sports fans want to see
them fail. But that's why the talk is here, because
I don't want to see them fail and take any
joy out of that. I want to know whatever it's
actually going to work. In the shadow my failures up
here before.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
I can't. Yeah, I can't. I can't see them. They've
got they've got the backing, they've got the people, and
they've got seen to hypticulture already, which is cool, excellent.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Hey Mark, thanks very much for your call and kindest
regards to your mother. I want to sit next to
her too, if things go all right. She sounds like
great company. It's sports talk on news Talks. Heb up
next Jared Lawson that joins us. He's Liam Lawson's father,
Formula one driver Liam Lawson. This contract proper starts this
(32:37):
weekend over in the States. Jared has been banging this
guy's drum for a long time and supporting him for
a long long time. Talk about a happy camper. He's
coming up next. His name is Jared Lawson.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
His news talks all right, Sports Talk on News Talk
(33:12):
zeb B, but joined now by Jared Lawson yet the
father of a young man called Liam.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
He's raced Formula one before, but now he's got a ticket.
He signed a contract with the VCARB team. He's got
to the end of the year nine races, six proper
and three sprint races to impress the powers that beat. Jared,
welcome to the program. I thought you might have been
over there following your son around, but you've decided to
(33:39):
step back to try and to alleviate the pressure. Was
that your idea or his? And welcome?
Speaker 8 (33:44):
Thank you. No, it wasn't really to alleviate any pressure.
It was more just the fact that at the end
of the day, we had we've had a couple of weeks,
a couple of months ago with him spending some quality
time and honestly, on a race weekend you don't get
to see him anyway. So we disfigured we'd leave him
to it and we'll look at going to one of
the rounds later in the year.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
What kind of contact he had with them over the
last couple of weeks. Because if you look on social media,
look on the Formula one sides, all the chat groups,
he's very much the focus of what's happening after the
unfortunate way that Ricardo was left. How's he dealing with
that the last couple of weeks, So there'll be.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Tense, you know, he's actually find us. Spoke to him
the other day and he's he's in a good place.
He's I mean he's been he's been waiting for this
opportunity to come back again for you know, for twelve
months now, so I mean he's he's championing at the
bit to get in the seat and get started. So,
you know, I don't think there's he certainly, you know,
(34:42):
he knows it's going to be a big mountain decline,
as he's already said. But I think, you know, the
reality is this weekend will be a little bit of
a reset, getting familiar with the car and then from there,
you know, starting to try and make and roads in
terms of speed and getting up to speed.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Patience it's a virtue in his case, after what happened
when he turned up and raced for Ricardo and then
was turned down for the role. He sat there, He's
done a lot of work in the simulator. He's been
very very patient. That's stress for you. How does he
deal with that? You've watched him grow and watched him
(35:23):
deal with stress and delay right the way through his career.
So how does this work for him? Now? He's obviously mature,
but how did he what did he go through?
Speaker 8 (35:33):
I think I think he's I mean, particularly last twelve
months probably in the hardest for him in his entire
racing career. I mean, not having a racing program to
do as a race car driver is you know, it's
not something that you know, any of them would deal
with particularly well. But I think you know, he's twenty
two now, he's mentally very strong, and you know, I
(35:55):
think he knew he had to basically sit it out
and wait to see what was happening. By far, Rebel
was still the best option for him, and it still
as the best opportunity for him. So I mean, I
think you know, he's smart enough to realize that at
the end of the day, I'm in the right spot,
just be patient and let it all happen.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Must have been tempting, though, when there were door knocks
from other teams saying maybe you should come over and
read ball. Obviously coy boss and said no, that he's
our guy, but the temptation still would have been there
just to get into a seat as soon as possible.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Yeah, it's very without going into too much contract so
it's very difficult for you know, for someone to leave
in that scenario because you know he's come up through
their junior ranks and you know they've invested in and
obviously you know Liam's got a lot of financial supporters
here in New Zealand as well, and you know the
fact that Red Bull have and haven't done that investment,
(36:51):
put that investment into him, they make sure that they're
not going to lose that investment. So you know, for
them taking the option on the contract was you know,
either they took it or they didn't take it. If
they didn't take it, he was you know, he was
free to move on. But you know, at the end
of the day, I think after last year, everyone was
(37:14):
reasonably confident. You can never be one hundred percent confident,
but that he had done enough for them to not want
to let him go.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Jared Lawson joins his father of Liam Lawson ahead of
his what do you call it a reprise of Formula one?
After what happened last time around? Tell us about expectations
around the sprint race and the qualifying for that's very
different way to go about your business. It's at the
circuit of the America's Kota, which is a wonderful racetrack.
(37:41):
How does Lim approach what happens considering that he's going
to have a ten grid ten place grid penalty when
it comes to qualifying for the race itself and Formula
One not sprint.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
Yeah, I think at the end of the day, I mean,
no race driver likes to start on the back foot,
and I mean he's not happy about it, but at
the end of the day, it gives him, I think,
an opportunity to get familiar with the car again, because
I believe it or not, he isn'tctually driven. I think
he's driven this car for one filming day earlier in
the year. That's the only only time he's actually driven
this particular incarnation of the of the car. So so
(38:17):
I think for him it'll be session by session, and
he hasn't got a lot of time. He's got one
free preg posession before that qualifier, and that will just
be about dialing into the track, getting from war with
the car, and then from there I think the sprint
race will be will be very good for him in
terms of getting to the next part of the weekend,
(38:37):
because obviously the Grand Prix is the important part of
the weekend, the real important part of the weekend. So
I think he will mentally he will, just he will
know that he's just got to build and build and build.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
He's competed on tracks race circuits all over the world
and he's done particularly well as a freshman, as a rookie.
If you will when he's turned up, does Cota suit
him from a driving perspective as per the first corner
is going to be difficult, and then when he starts
getting through that loopy old snake sectionally front left, front,
left right, I see him performing particularly well. It suits
(39:10):
the way he races. What do you feel about the
track itself and if it's actually suitable to Liam?
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Honestly, because he'd never driven it, I think he likes
the track in the sun. He told me that the
other day. I mean, he said it's a fun track
to drive. But I think until you're in the car
and you're actually out there doing it, he won't. You know,
we don't really know, And a lot of it is
going to come down to how good the car is
around that circuit. I don't think, you know, we really
(39:39):
know that they may have some upgrades this weekend. I'm
not entirely sure, but you know, one thing's for sure.
I know he will He'll be giving it one hundred
and ten percent for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Jaredy's got to keep the car out of the weeds
first and foremost, stick it on the black stuff and
don't move. That's first option. But secondly, when you look
at the rest of this year, I know you can't
look too far forward but plainly beat your teammate, beat Yuki,
and that's probably what he's trying to achieve to the
end of the season.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
Yeah, I think. I mean, obviously Red Bull, you know,
everything is measured, you know that everything is closely looked at,
and yeah, I mean his performance will be will be gauged,
and that's you know, that's natural. I think, you know, realistically,
they will give him a couple of grand prix. Wanted
to grand prix to to you know, to give him
a bit of time to to get up to to
(40:29):
that that level. But you know, it'll be very interesting
to see, it'll be very interesting these these rest of
his tracks for the year. I think he's done a
free practice session around Mexico, so he hasn't done that track.
He hasn't done ABDB. I think he's he's done a
(40:49):
practice session around there as well in the Red Bull,
So most of these tracks he's going to do, he
hasn't Actually, he hasn't actually raced in a race car
around in terms of an actual race meeting. That's just
been practice. So it'll be very interesting to see how
he goes.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
No promises from Red Bull around what may happen in
Puen twenty five or there have been you can't tell
us about it. What does the future look like? He
can focus on that? He probably can't.
Speaker 8 (41:13):
No, I think, I think. I mean, obviously there's there's
four seats across those two teams, and I mean everybody
knows at the moment that performance in the top team
is being looked at as well. So you know, naturally
both Yuki and Liam can see that there's potential opportunity
at Red Bull and twenty five or twenty six, and
(41:37):
again that's going to come down to the performance of
some you know, the drivers and that team. But I
think at the stage Liam's not thinking about that and
he's really just focused on getting up to speed. As
quickly as possible and trying to maximize performance and the
six Grand Prix.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Forget the riffs goal, you make the goal sports talking
on your Home of Sports and his talks.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Even listening to Jared Lawson that is Formula one driver
ot Liam Lawsons father right behind him in the entire way.
That race is eight o'clock on Monday morning from Texas
Public Holiday. I'm told awesome they're qualifying. Is the day
before Sunday, eleven till twelve midday the sprint race seven
(42:26):
till eight in the morning. Sprint qualifying this coming up
on the Saturday, and practice one early on Saturday morning.
I'll be there for your sport breakfast, letting you know
I'm sure i will andy out. Thanks for joining us.
He's a guy I said he'd love to go and
watch the AFC who lives on the north Shore. So
giving me is a problem. Come on, mate, get in
(42:48):
your car, take a bat. Do you really want to
go on?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Not?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
You want it in your backyard, don't you.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I'm sorry they're not playing out the yard. So how
am I supposed to duck in for a couple and
things get boring? Go home, mate, travel please for the
good of the team and Darcy autograb along. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Welcome on in this is sports Talk. My name's Darcy
Watergrave on news Talk zed B. Up In tonight's program
me him that guy and lots of you. Who's the
hym and who's the that guy? Who do you want
to be? Producer duff him or that guy? That guy?
(00:55):
The him we're talking about. Fred Deyong joins this shortly
former all white Football Kings player talking about the opening
game and what is important to this brand spanking new
football club. Where's success sit? What are the key parameters
(01:16):
for them in this season? How important is it that
they've got a loaded boss or owners? More of the
point plenty on that, and then we'll talk to you
about that subject. First game up against this weekend, it's
looking like a sellout. It's starting off very well. But
how much rope do we give the team before people
(01:37):
go King's Knights and out they walk? I know that
sounds awfully negative, but I am the media after all.
What part of it? Anyway? That's our plan to start
with your cause of one hundred and eighty ten eighty
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(01:59):
end of the show, father of Formula One driver Liam
Lawson to join us. He drives this weekend. He's finally
secured a contract, albeit for the last six races of
the season, but he's not replacing a broken Daniel Ricardo,
which is what happened last time they sacked Daniel Ricardo.
And he's there full time well to the end of
(02:20):
the season anyway. Liam Lawson running this weekend at the
Formula One at Cota over in Austin, Texas. Sharon joins
us to talk about the long journey that his son
has undertaken to get to the top of the motor
sport world. That is later on in the piece, and
I'll attempt to keep up today. What's going on in
the cricket. She's been fairly exciting so far. A bit
(02:44):
of rain, a handful of wickets and plenty more action
to come. That's the master plans. Dan, Let's get monkst today.
It's for today. It's been a late start, but the
little cricket on show so far has given black cap
fans are shot on the Army Shastri here with the
(03:04):
classic call when Suffers was dismissed.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
What a cats, What a catch that is that it's
surpris looking to break free, has the freedom to go
back to the dressing room.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Now, I love your workmate. Half back Camroy Guard has
hinted at a positional switch to the key pivot position.
The half pack back on track is taking the purse
right right.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Maybe it's super rugby. I don't know, it just depends obviously.
Now Britt Cameron's out for the Hurricanes for a wee while,
so I don't think I'll be ever starting there. But
maybe it might be one of those ones where I
start at nine and then push out to ten. But yeah,
never say never. But at the moment, I'm trying to
obviously get back to play some good footy.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
In the America's Carp, Britannia skipper Sir Bena Ainsley and
his crew spend all of their laid day floating about
on the briny deep searching every breaker and clump of kelp,
and eventually found exactly what they were looking for.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
Able to get out of similar conditions to today and
really try and find those gains. So part of the
team for the work Effect to do just that. It's
still really tough. You know, we know the Kiwis are
a great team, but for us, we've got to ride
this momentum now and keep getting ourselves back into the game.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
In zed wy Yes has had their lead sliced into
it's now four plays to the British gaining on the
New Zealanders with the games they gained there in the
game again and Silver Firm defender Karen Berger is welcoming
back fellow defender Phoenix Kataka welcome her into the fray.
There are benefits for.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
All, so just heaving her back in the mix and
sharing with her what we've learned over the last few
weeks and making sure that we support her as much
as we can to sloten easily, but also that she's
able to bring her flare and whatever she brings to
the team as well.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And Let's Sport Today holds it up for Bari looking
to shoot again, Borry puts one into the top corner
and the Knights go whatnot. You can see the ecstasy
on the faces.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Of the squad. And after producing the program, that guy,
when on Earth did you find that? I had no idea?
There was still coverage left from that era. Wh did
you dig it out of a whole simee where you
went mining? Didn't you? Stunning bit of coverage for the
very few times the Kings actually managed to play. So
the Knights managed to actually Playcey mixed it up Kings
(05:34):
and Nights. So on that subject of Kings at the Knights,
Let's hope that AKFC EFECA Auckland FC don't go down
the same horrid path and we've got enough to support
two A League teams here in New Zealand. Will the
club work? Will it have success games this weekend for
(05:58):
Auckland FC, it's almost been sold out. Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about what success means and what has to
be done as this team dips its toe into the
A League water. Fred Deyong from All White Football Kings
player joins us. Now Fred, welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Mate, cheers mate, lovely to chat again and looking forward
to a good A League season with two New Zealand
teams for the first time, which will be which would
be interesting to see how they go.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Let's start, we need to start. AKFC have done everything
they can to get fans on board, to get the
media on board, to show a good positive face to
step into the A League going we are here, we
mean business. What markets do they have to hit to
prove that? What do they actually have to do to
(06:50):
try and get rid of us bose the memories of
the Knights and the Kings and other failed expeditions of
the A League into Auckland.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Yeah, And I think they've done a really good job
in that with the club engagement with the local clubs
in the Auckland area. I think you know, all the
all the media they've had has been positive. They've they've
put on a very collegial face to the organization which
has been fantastic, which has been really good. Bottom line,
(07:20):
first hurdle, don't lose the first game. I think that
was where the Kings and Knights fell over. I remember
playing in that first Carlton game for the Kings, and
you know, there's a there's a whole bunch of excitement
and around the around Auckland for professional football in Auckland.
And then we blew it on the first on the
(07:42):
first night we lost three in al and sort of
it really put a dampner on that on that on
that first first week of the competition and so I
think first and foremost, don't lose the first game, and
then after that, I think it's put on an experience
at Mount Smart Stadium, and I think the Warriors do
that very well. I think you've got to make it
an event. And I think the the A League and
(08:06):
Auckland and they've see a blessed in that there's not
a whole lot of football or a whole lot of
sport in Auckland around this time of year, so they've
got a pretty clear runway to exploit and so if
they engage really well results go their way, then I
think you could see this grow and grow, which would
be fantastic for football in this part of the country.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So you've got no rope back in the old days,
one bad loss and suddenly everyone walked. How much rope
has this team got? How much good will? How long
before people go Okay, it's over. Now your honeymoon period's gone,
we want results. What do you think? They're pretty harsh
football fans here in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I think week three. I think though, if things aren't
going well, especially after the match against the Phoenix, I
think then you might find some things turn a little negative.
But when you look at this squad. The squad is strong.
Are they going to gel as a football team? That
(09:04):
remains to be seen. But they have you know, five imports,
which is five overseas imports, which is probably more than
most clubs in the A League. How good they are
yet to be seen, but you know, good pedigree. Got
a very very experienced captain and Hiroki Sakai, you know,
three World Cups for Japan, and so you know he's
(09:25):
he's a very very good player coming obviously coming near
the end of his career, but still you know, have
a player of that caliber and your side leading the
team is very good. Good signing, you know, and so
you know, you go through the other the other imports
and you know there's Colombian, Uruguay and Chile and Belgium,
so you know, good footballing countries. And so I think
(09:49):
if they're at the at the if they're of the
quality of some of the imports we've seen that the
Phoenix have unearthed, then I think Auckland f C are
in a really good spot.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Fredong joining the program, how much will money paper over
any cracks that may appear in this club. They've got
some big back and some big swinging. You know what
I'm going to say, a lot of coin. Does that
alleviate anything to a degree? As the players and the
team don't feel like they're playing for survival based on
(10:20):
the amount of crowd that turned up, is this going
to help them?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Absolutely? Absolutely. Look around the world, every league in the world,
the teams with the biggest budgets are at the top
of the table. It doesn't matter which where you look.
Budgets equate to position on the table. So if the
owners are willing to spend the money, then you're in
a good spot. You know. And maybe not in year one,
maybe not in year two, but by year three I
(10:45):
would have thought that, you know, you'd have worked out
a whole lot of the issues that come up with
starting a franchise from scratch. You've bedded in, you know,
the players feel comfortable and they can just concentrate on,
you know, playing football. Whereas like at the moment, you've
got five imports who have moved their families or themselves
(11:07):
into New Zealand have to get settled in, you know,
work their way around the city, all those sorts of things.
You get you've got to get used to that sort
of thing. But after why you know, you start to think, Okay,
now I can really concentrate on delivering and money always helps.
And I think you know that that is the biggest
difference between Auckland FC and the Kings. And the Knights.
(11:30):
They have the money, They've said they're going to spend
the money, and so if that is the case, then
I see no reason why they shouldn't be successful and
pretty quickly as well.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
All sports teams talk about making home a fortress. How
important is it that they get their own ground sooner
rather than later? Look Mount Smart Go Media Stadium. All
well and good, but the noise made by Foley early
in the pieces I would like to build a stadium.
Now there's sorts of taking over Western Springs. They've got
the right colored strip to get over there, I tell you,
(12:01):
But how important for them to actually create a home
that is is that isn't just temperant and how long? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean when when Bill Foley said that, you know,
early when he when the team was launched, I mean
that was music to the years, not just the football people.
I think of anyone who's been in a really good
stadium around the world would love to see Auckland with
a rectangular stadium that's not ruined by cricket, that's you know,
purpose built for a rectangular field. And you know, we
(12:33):
would hope that there would be you know, a group
of people, local government, central government, the different sports that
would use it. Everyone, I think, with every sporting person
would love to have that sort of stadium as opposed
to just pouring money down the sinkhole that is Eden Park.
But you know, we'll see, we'll see. I mean that's
(12:53):
a long term proposition. You know, you're talking probably a decade.
But as it as it stands now, I think Mount
Smart's the second best thing that they've got. So you
know you've got to go with that. And for the interim,
that's where you have to be very good and you
have to get results at Munt Smart.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Ste Bill Folly told me he's a doer, he gets
things done. I was like, Bro, you've never dealt with
the Auckland Council before, you say, I think he's at
worked out. Fred de Yong joining us. When we look
at the breakers, they've been a very successful team in
a Trans Tasman competition. They have had great success as
far as winning the competition. They regularly fill their basketball
(13:32):
court up. You'd suggest it's because the NBL is a
very well respected league in global basketball. The A League, however,
isn't up in that echelon. How much do you think
that will affect people going to watch this?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I think if Auckland FC can turn on a show
and make it different, and I think this is where
Bill Foley and not the franchise or the sort of
the global organization, the Black Knights organization as a whole
that runs Bornemouth, that runs the Vegas Knights, that runs
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Hibbs and other Laureons and France, these organs all sit
under the same umbrella. If the learnings from that, especially
the American market, if they can be brought here to
put on a real show, then I think, you know,
the the crowds, the support will be very strong because
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it'll be different, make it really different, make it make
it something that people just want to go along to
and and be entertained, because we're not that good at
that in New Zealand, you know, I mean I go
to a we film a lot of rugby and stuff,
and boy, the one thing you really hate is all
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the music that gets piped through the sound speaker. You know,
the sound system at these stadiums and it's just like
every time the ball goes out and it's like, get
rid of that. Let the crowd be the ones to
make the noise, encourage people to yell and scream. Put
a band in the stand. They do that a lot
in Europe, you know, have have a few trumpets and
a and a trombone and that sort of thing, and
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let them generate the songs for the crowd to sing
along to, that sort of thing. So just be different
and I think if if they if they can capitalize
on that, then I think the crowds will continue to
come along and.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Of course win first and foremost. Tell you what, Fred
de Young, if anyone turns up with a Voover zella,
I'm never going to announce, don't even start with that. Mate.
You have a great weekend and enjoy yourself and thanks
for your time as always, Thanks mate. Right call is your.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Sports Talk all on your home of sports news Talk.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
By Fred. That's Fred DeJong e form all White Football
Kings play from way back when football commentator and pundit
talking about the success of Auckland FC. How will they
attain success? How will the retain success? What does success
look like. They want you, they want me. They want
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the people of Auckland to climb on board this bandwagon,
as all sports teams do, in order to propel them
up the ladder and more importantly, keep them solvent. They're
not going to go broke. The guy who owns a
Blazer billionaire, he's got plenty of cash. You'll pitch fork
money into the club until he's tied and then he
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will go away. Whether his money will be able to
buy the team's success another question when you look at
salary caps. But what's around the team as far as
the support and the traveler and all the rest of
it will cover that. So they're fine and they're not
going to be playing worried about if their club is
going to still be financially viable. I think that's an
issue here. What the issue is is how long Aucklanders
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will stick around and how long Aucklanders will support this team.
How much rope will they give this team. New Zealander's
got to buy in as well. But I'm looking at
the people who turn up and go to the ground
and go to the game, because if it's empty there,
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it'll empty everywhere else. Surely, it will, it's going to work.
What do they have to do? What are your parameters
as a football fan or a casual sport fan, because
I'm sure no one wants to see this team fail.
They've worked very hard so far. They've done a lot
of media pushes, community works. You're dead. They've got a
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lot of high profile athletes involved as well. Steven Adams
Williams that this goes on. They've got some big investors
behind them, but it all falls apart if they don't win,
and if they get off to a horrible star. The
Indians have lost another one. Raju's just been gone. O'Rourke's
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got a third. Oh it's gone for nought of six deliveries.
I'm sorry, I really look look a bird. I get
thirty three for five, now pants still in fourteen for forty,
while this forteen off for forty. Excuse me? This is insane.
Way back to the focus on that if they don't win,
how much rope do they get? How long does the
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football public of New Zealand put up with them? I'd
like to think that I'll be made to eat my words.
They'll get off to a rousing start, they'll thrash Brisbane,
and they'll carry on and they'll be up toward the
top of the table by the end of the year.
They've got one hundred and ninety eight weeks of play
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to keep people engaged. That's a long time. One hundred
and ninety eight did I say weeks? One hundred and nine?
One hundred and ninety eight eight days to keep people
and go, it's a long time. First and foremost, Win.
Don't care what the entertainment's like at the ground and
killed the music's like, none of that bothers me. Win
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and they will come. What do you want to see?
Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty To me, it's the
w or nothing. Twenty five past seven, it's a sports
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think the Indians are bouncing around and there increasingly bit
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But enough about that, let's go back to the subject
and hand. This is Auckland FC entering the A League
this weekend, nearly sold out at Mount Smart But will
it work? Will the club work? What is working? To you?
Purely victory? Will it work? It's a big punt. It's
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a big it's a big punt and it's not worked
in Auckland before today. Craig, how are you?
Speaker 7 (20:43):
Oh no, it's bad. I'm glad you deleted all country
withstenal computer.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I'm not looking at you out And it's not his fault.
It's not the producer's fault. It's a technical issue.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
No, no, no, no, no, it's probably marketing or something. Yeah,
I reckon, it's quite a good of another team in there.
I mean I did agree with what the guy is
saying with the music and this. Venues have been to
a few games and stuff and sometimes you're sitting there
listening to the crowd getting into it. All the rest
three and it's drowned out by some guy playing old
sixties women, old eighties women songs like the PA System.
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It's like, really, I think they sometimes tend to be
a little bit over the top. They're not really into
what's going on with the crowd. Sometimes it gets a
little bit crazy.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
It's art fish, wasn't it. That's what it is.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
Yeah, it's like you get into the atmosphere and you
hear some sort of pop song from nineteen eighty. It's like, really, okay,
it's not really it goes with the part of the
game anyway. But yeah, I reckon they got rid of
that probably be quite good, or toned it down a bit.
But the other things, like maybe what they could do
is maybe the players could go to schools and there
for soccer things and all that, and if you get
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their face amongst the kids, because I guess if you
get the kids interested in it, they want to go
to the thing, They're probably going to drag the parents
along to the game as well. And maybe they could
do something similar to the weepix cards for the Rugby
you have like cards so you could collect.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
And they've already been very present when it comes to
going to clubs, visiting schools and the like that they're
trying to get a core at the early stage. It
makes the perfect sense. But if they're not winning, none
of this matters, does it.
Speaker 7 (22:14):
Well, unless you can get the supporters of the same
sort of Unless you can get the supporters of the
right of the sorry football the same as the Warrior supporters,
because they could be losing, you still get a fat crowd.
I think you need to basically get New Zealand behind
the team and just like, hey, they might be losing,
but somehow I'll get to the point where you're a
supporting team whether they win or lose, whereas a lot
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of teams tend to be if they lose it but
people give up with them go somewhere else. But you
look at the Warriors, they're hard sporch supporters stick behind
them whether they're losing or not.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
So well, it's twenty five years that history and that's
built that faith, hasn't it art within the side. Although
there had been times where Mount Smart and Go media
whatever has been desolate, it's been a ghost town. It's
not always been like this.
Speaker 7 (22:58):
Yeah, well maybe, I mean, if they get some good
overseas players that people in New Zealand know, then maybe
it would probably bring a little bit more towards it.
Speaker 8 (23:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
It's a tough one, but he's say they it's not
going to win, and then people are going to probably
get pretty cold on the game really quickly.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
And Craig, you mentioned soccer before, so means that it
suggests you're probably not the biggest fan in the world
with all true respect. Are you actually going to go?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
I do call it football, but I do think a
lot of people in New Zealand, you know what, most
people call it soccer.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
Are you going to go?
Speaker 5 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:29):
I've been to a few games over over in the
UK many years ago.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Are you going to go to Auckland FC.
Speaker 7 (23:36):
I'm in ways that's not far to hit up the road.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Are you going to go?
Speaker 7 (23:42):
If I'm going to, yeah, I'll go because I'm interested
to see how they do. You know, I'm going to.
You've got to support your local, well technically local team,
so I would go and actually see it goes. But
other think it should be quite a good atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well you'd hope so, and that atmosphere will get built.
Then there's a number of aspects of playing football that
will build an atmosphere, but the big one is winning.
Speaker 9 (24:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
Where about are they're going to be playing anyway?
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Do you know Mount Smart Go Media Stadium?
Speaker 7 (24:12):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, well it's a hard place to get to, but
people can't get there. And I've seen a lot of
our threads on social media of various football groups. How
we going, where should we meet? Let's do this? So
there are plans afoot.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
Yeah, I'm listening, going to go to. What we're interesting
to see is how many people go to on like cold, wet,
yucky nights where they're still going to Boy, the going
that would be hardcore supporters.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
But well that's the best thing about when it was playing, though,
because it plays predominantly through summer, so they don't have
to worry about that grief. I'll just leave that to
the warriors, right.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Yeah, yeah, as long as this woman global warming thing
don't kick any feether. But yeah, but yeah, you know,
it's good insuring conversation anyway, so I'll look forward to
hearing some more. But that's really interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Great, good on you mate, Thanks very much, and thanks
for finally conceding he will actually go albeit from Hamilton
from the white couple who is still going to go
And that's think you think you produce a daff it's
going to work. It relies too heavily on success. For me,
you look at the lack of success of Auckland rugby teams.
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That's supposed to be our national game and you wouldn't
say that. The crowds turning up at the Blues have
been exactly impressive. Won the title. Auckland EBC team haven't
been that much. It's been reflected in the crowds. The
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breaker is different in the fact that breakers is they're
an NBL level, which is of very high quality Globally.
You can't put the A League up there. It's just
simply not there globally. It's an okay comp. It's very
local comp. You haven't got the stars there and when
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it comes to breakers, you just have to stuff eight
thousand people in the gym. I know, not this one.
I was about to say that. I was about to say,
at least no one's playing Sweet Caroline. If they play
this at the game, it's all yeah, so this is
hard and I don't think they've left any stone unturned
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alither'll be doing everything they possibly can, because Bill Foley
won't just chuck his money into a black hole. He's
a billionaire for a reason. Is it actually going to work?
If they don't win by Christmas the place will be empty?
Twenty five to eight. This is sports talk on that
News Talk ZB.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
We fill it up with only too.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
Charming, up being hot out Sports Talk on that News
Talk ZB. It is a lunch in the first Test.
There's day two and you're staggering thirty four for six. Yikes.
Right away from cricket, let's get on to football now.
Hamish joins us he is a Phoenix fan. Are you
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a Phoenix fan from Wellington or a Phoenix fan from
up around this neck of the woods.
Speaker 10 (27:21):
No, I'm a Knicks fan from Wellington way back.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
So when you look at this Auckland football club, what's
going to make it work? I mean you've watched the
Phoenix over twenty odd years. What's worked for them? How's
it going to work for these guys?
Speaker 10 (27:36):
I think we all know it's taking the Knicks a
long time to get to get any progress and start
showing really good results. So for the Auckland team, and
like one knocks till I die, So I don't care
if he'd lose all the games, but as they got
fifty percent, then I think that's a web for the season.
(27:57):
It's hard, you know, it's hard, hard work to set
up a team, right, That's said all the time around
the world. Steph, is it Steve Core?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (28:07):
Yeah, yeah, Like he's a good coach that new players.
You know, they don't have any game time behind them,
so it's a tough gig.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Well, I what about the pressure on their shoulders as
well from not only the crowds, but I expect the management.
The guy's playing for it all because he's he's a winner,
right this.
Speaker 10 (28:26):
Yeah, the NHL team, there's this hockey team. They probably
one of the only teams that have gone on and
won in their first season, right, So he probably wants results.
But yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be expecting them to win.
The thing, wouldn't?
Speaker 2 (28:45):
Is money going to help? You can't with the salary
cap pull money at the top players, but money everywhere else?
Would that assist? Do you think?
Speaker 10 (28:56):
I wouldn't say, would this season not? You know, maybe
for ten years until they have their own stadium and
training grounds and all that sort of stuff. I don't
think it would have a great impact. Yep.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Well, looking forward to the game they play against your
mob famous that will be oh yeah, something else that
really will. So the.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Rivalry is slowly bubbling away.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
It's great, yeah, And I think that a lot of
people are relying on that, even though it's only a handful.
What is it three three games throughout the season, three
or two one hundred and ninety eight days. It's three rounds,
isn't it anyway? Regard it doesn't matter. Mark, thanks very
much for that, Sorry, how much? Thanks for that? We
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go to Mark. Now, Hi mate, how are you?
Speaker 9 (29:49):
I'm bloody good man, I'm really good. Hey. Just to
give you an idea of how they operate. My mum,
she's eighty five. She went to a function and she
bought a shirt and they offered to free tickets. This
is AC and she couldn't work out how to get
the electronic tickets. So I got on to Mike Clayton
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from AFC and said, look, she's she can't do it,
and he fired them through to be and I explained
that Mane was the next coach, club coach, rep coach whatever,
and they just went out of their way to help,
and that's if that's how they're going to continue in
I reckon that's they've got a bloody good They've got
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a bloody good culture already.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I can't ignore the potential fan base. But how much
mark does that assistance that love? How long does that
last for if the results aren't coming.
Speaker 9 (30:52):
I wouldn't want to be sitting next to mom and
in the stands because she'll be telling them what they're
doing wrong, and everywhere.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Your mother in the stands, I've got.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
To sit next to her. But I've done that for years,
so that's cool. But I think that they're doing it right.
They're trying to get it going and hopefully it works
on the field, but they're doing everything behind the scenes correctly,
and if they can build that base up. I mean,
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the Phoenix went flesh when they started. Who were they really?
But I think that these guys can actually do it
and follow through. And but they seem to have the
back office right, which is cool.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
We wish them all the best, unless, of course, you're
a Phoenix fan like Hamous, in which case you don't
wish anything of them.
Speaker 9 (31:44):
That's any good, Oh, Hamous, Well, if we want to
play them four times if we meet them in the
semis ye, who knows.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But I don't think any sports fans want to see
them fail. But that's why the talk is here, because
I don't want to see them fail and take any
joy out of that. I want to know whatever it's
actually going to work. In the shadow my failures up
here before.
Speaker 9 (32:04):
I can't. Yeah, I can't. I can't see them. They've
got they've got the backing, they've got the people, and
they've got seen to hypticulture already, which is cool, excellent.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Hey Mark, thanks very much for your call and kindest
regards to your mother. I want to sit next to
her too, if things go all right. She sounds like
great company. It's sports talk on news Talks. Heb up
next Jared Lawson that joins us. He's Liam Lawson's father,
Formula one driver Liam Lawson. This contract proper starts this
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weekend over in the States. Jared has been banging this
guy's drum for a long time and supporting him for
a long long time. Talk about a happy camper. He's
coming up next. His name is Jared Lawson.
Speaker 11 (32:51):
His news talks all right, Sports Talk on News Talk
(33:12):
zeb B, but joined now by Jared Lawson yet the
father of a young man called Liam.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
He's raced Formula one before, but now he's got a ticket.
He signed a contract with the VCARB team. He's got
to the end of the year nine races, six proper
and three sprint races to impress the powers that beat. Jared,
welcome to the program. I thought you might have been
over there following your son around, but you've decided to
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step back to try and to alleviate the pressure. Was
that your idea or his? And welcome?
Speaker 8 (33:44):
Thank you. No, it wasn't really to alleviate any pressure.
It was more just the fact that at the end
of the day, we had we've had a couple of weeks,
a couple of months ago with him spending some quality
time and honestly, on a race weekend you don't get
to see him anyway. So we disfigured we'd leave him
to it and we'll look at going to one of
the rounds later in the year.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
What kind of contact he had with them over the
last couple of weeks. Because if you look on social media,
look on the Formula one sides, all the chat groups,
he's very much the focus of what's happening after the
unfortunate way that Ricardo was left. How's he dealing with
that the last couple of weeks, So there'll be.
Speaker 8 (34:20):
Tense, you know, he's actually find us. Spoke to him
the other day and he's he's in a good place.
He's I mean he's been he's been waiting for this
opportunity to come back again for you know, for twelve
months now, so I mean he's he's championing at the
bit to get in the seat and get started. So,
you know, I don't think there's he certainly, you know,
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he knows it's going to be a big mountain decline,
as he's already said. But I think, you know, the
reality is this weekend will be a little bit of
a reset, getting familiar with the car and then from there,
you know, starting to try and make and roads in
terms of speed and getting up to speed.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Patience it's a virtue in his case, after what happened
when he turned up and raced for Ricardo and then
was turned down for the role. He sat there, He's
done a lot of work in the simulator. He's been
very very patient. That's stress for you. How does he
deal with that? You've watched him grow and watched him
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deal with stress and delay right the way through his career.
So how does this work for him? Now? He's obviously mature,
but how did he what did he go through?
Speaker 8 (35:33):
I think I think he's I mean, particularly last twelve
months probably in the hardest for him in his entire
racing career. I mean, not having a racing program to
do as a race car driver is you know, it's
not something that you know, any of them would deal
with particularly well. But I think you know, he's twenty
two now, he's mentally very strong, and you know, I
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think he knew he had to basically sit it out
and wait to see what was happening. By far, Rebel
was still the best option for him, and it still
as the best opportunity for him. So I mean, I
think you know, he's smart enough to realize that at
the end of the day, I'm in the right spot,
just be patient and let it all happen.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Must have been tempting, though, when there were door knocks
from other teams saying maybe you should come over and
read ball. Obviously coy boss and said no, that he's
our guy, but the temptation still would have been there
just to get into a seat as soon as possible.
Speaker 8 (36:29):
Yeah, it's very without going into too much contract so
it's very difficult for you know, for someone to leave
in that scenario because you know he's come up through
their junior ranks and you know they've invested in and
obviously you know Liam's got a lot of financial supporters
here in New Zealand as well, and you know the
fact that Red Bull have and haven't done that investment,
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put that investment into him, they make sure that they're
not going to lose that investment. So you know, for
them taking the option on the contract was you know,
either they took it or they didn't take it. If
they didn't take it, he was you know, he was
free to move on. But you know, at the end
of the day, I think after last year, everyone was
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reasonably confident. You can never be one hundred percent confident,
but that he had done enough for them to not want
to let him go.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
Jared Lawson joins his father of Liam Lawson ahead of
his what do you call it a reprise of Formula one?
After what happened last time around? Tell us about expectations
around the sprint race and the qualifying for that's very
different way to go about your business. It's at the
circuit of the America's Kota, which is a wonderful racetrack.
(37:41):
How does Lim approach what happens considering that he's going
to have a ten grid ten place grid penalty when
it comes to qualifying for the race itself and Formula
One not sprint.
Speaker 8 (37:53):
Yeah, I think at the end of the day, I mean,
no race driver likes to start on the back foot,
and I mean he's not happy about it, but at
the end of the day, it gives him, I think,
an opportunity to get familiar with the car again, because
I believe it or not, he isn'tctually driven. I think
he's driven this car for one filming day earlier in
the year. That's the only only time he's actually driven
this particular incarnation of the of the car. So so
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I think for him it'll be session by session, and
he hasn't got a lot of time. He's got one
free preg posession before that qualifier, and that will just
be about dialing into the track, getting from war with
the car, and then from there I think the sprint
race will be will be very good for him in
terms of getting to the next part of the weekend,
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because obviously the Grand Prix is the important part of
the weekend, the real important part of the weekend. So
I think he will mentally he will, just he will
know that he's just got to build and build and build.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
He's competed on tracks race circuits all over the world
and he's done particularly well as a freshman, as a rookie.
If you will when he's turned up, does Cota suit
him from a driving perspective as per the first corner
is going to be difficult, and then when he starts
getting through that loopy old snake sectionally front left, front,
left right, I see him performing particularly well. It suits
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the way he races. What do you feel about the
track itself and if it's actually suitable to Liam?
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Honestly, because he'd never driven it, I think he likes
the track in the sun. He told me that the
other day. I mean, he said it's a fun track
to drive. But I think until you're in the car
and you're actually out there doing it, he won't. You know,
we don't really know, And a lot of it is
going to come down to how good the car is
around that circuit. I don't think, you know, we really
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know that they may have some upgrades this weekend. I'm
not entirely sure, but you know, one thing's for sure.
I know he will He'll be giving it one hundred
and ten percent for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Jaredy's got to keep the car out of the weeds
first and foremost, stick it on the black stuff and
don't move. That's first option. But secondly, when you look
at the rest of this year, I know you can't
look too far forward but plainly beat your teammate, beat Yuki,
and that's probably what he's trying to achieve to the
end of the season.
Speaker 8 (40:09):
Yeah, I think. I mean, obviously Red Bull, you know,
everything is measured, you know that everything is closely looked at,
and yeah, I mean his performance will be will be gauged,
and that's you know, that's natural. I think, you know, realistically,
they will give him a couple of grand prix. Wanted
to grand prix to to you know, to give him
a bit of time to to get up to to
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that that level. But you know, it'll be very interesting
to see, it'll be very interesting these these rest of
his tracks for the year. I think he's done a
free practice session around Mexico, so he hasn't done that track.
He hasn't done ABDB. I think he's he's done a
(40:49):
practice session around there as well in the Red Bull,
So most of these tracks he's going to do, he
hasn't Actually, he hasn't actually raced in a race car
around in terms of an actual race meeting. That's just
been practice. So it'll be very interesting to see how
he goes.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
No promises from Red Bull around what may happen in
Puen twenty five or there have been you can't tell
us about it. What does the future look like? He
can focus on that? He probably can't.
Speaker 8 (41:13):
No, I think, I think. I mean, obviously there's there's
four seats across those two teams, and I mean everybody
knows at the moment that performance in the top team
is being looked at as well. So you know, naturally
both Yuki and Liam can see that there's potential opportunity
at Red Bull and twenty five or twenty six, and
(41:37):
again that's going to come down to the performance of
some you know, the drivers and that team. But I
think at the stage Liam's not thinking about that and
he's really just focused on getting up to speed. As
quickly as possible and trying to maximize performance and the
six Grand Prix.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Forget the riffs goal, you make the goal sports talking
on your Home of Sports and his talks.
Speaker 2 (42:02):
Even listening to Jared Lawson that is Formula one driver
ot Liam Lawsons father right behind him in the entire way.
That race is eight o'clock on Monday morning from Texas
Public Holiday. I'm told awesome they're qualifying. Is the day
before Sunday, eleven till twelve midday the sprint race seven
(42:26):
till eight in the morning. Sprint qualifying this coming up
on the Saturday, and practice one early on Saturday morning.
I'll be there for your sport breakfast, letting you know
I'm sure i will andy out. Thanks for joining us.
He's a guy I said he'd love to go and
watch the AFC who lives on the north Shore. So
giving me is a problem. Come on, mate, get in
(42:48):
your car, take a bat. Do you really want to
go on?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Not?
Speaker 2 (42:51):
You want it in your backyard, don't you.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Like?
Speaker 2 (42:54):
I'm sorry they're not playing out the yard. So how
am I supposed to duck in for a couple and
things get boring? Go home, mate, travel please for the
good of the team and Darcy autograb along. Thanks for
your time.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
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