November 6, 2024 • 43 mins
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Jeff Wilson - Former All Black on the Ireland test match this weekend.
Talkback - On the growing rivalry with Ireland
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a lot about sport and why wouldn't He's called sports
Talk after all. Jeff Wilson will join us broadcast of
a sky also a former All Black, on the rivalry
between All Blacks and Islanders that surpassed other great rivalries
in New Zealand rugby history. We'll take your thoughts on
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of the program will catch up with New Zealand to
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back from injury, where he sits how he's feeling what
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of the program, before any of that, though, it's still
a whole lot of this today it is for today
Iris Santa Gary Ringrose has been impressed with the contribution
of new Backs coach Andrew Goodman. The format Crusaders staff
I took over the role from Mike judderbar Cats.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I guess challenging us in different ways to grow and
evolve and be better than we have done before. So
he's definitely hit the ground running from that front.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
All White's gaffer Darren Paisley, is very satisfied with the
quality of the squad he has named for this month's
World Cup qualifiers to be played at home. They're very
good players, so yeah, having them return is great and
the only one that we really lost was Ben Old
to an injury, so apart from that, we've got a
really strong squad. Josh Burnett flogged the stage when and
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the Orange Jersey in today's fourth stage of the Tour
of South and the twenty four year old from Team
Creation signs might ta Q isn't counting any poultry yet though.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
We take things day by day. Head this racer, yeah,
it's on my mind.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, and the South African born news ill and raised
Englishman Cameron and Nora will be appearing for the ninth
time at the ASP Classic. He's had a problematic year
on court so far, so Ken and what was that
all about?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I was not as patient as I could have been,
So I think that was one thing I could have
improved on.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
I wanted everything to go well and feel perfect right away,
and I think that's not realistic. I think I learned
that in the results.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And that's sport today.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It is nine past seven. Are still waiting to cross
to Donald Trump. Earlier on today I caught up with
former All Black hand broadcaster Jeff Wilson to look at
the rivalry, the new rivalry. And I'm suggesting Jeff Wilson,
and incidentally, we will be able to pause out of
this as soon as Donald Trump does become available, so
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don't stress there. So Jeff joins us now and this
All Blacks Island rivalry. It really is the new great
rugby rivalry, and it will welcome to you.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
If you're talking more welcomes. I'm pretty sure that the Blacks,
when they get to it a bit at the stadium,
we're gottle bit. More than that, there's certainly some heat
in this contest. Now if we know the rivalry over
the last five, six, seven years, and now I think
it's it's sort of almost expected. You know that Ireland
have been one of the best teams in the world
over the last few years. They've proven that time and
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time again. And when they came to New Zealand and
my serious year for the first time, it's almost like
in their own years that have conquered the beast and
their expectations are now that they can do it any
any time they'd like. And a lot happened last year,
in particular.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Ruggy World Cup with my Lord.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
I'll tell you what this game is going to have.
It's going to have plenty of it because for them,
we're are to a massive point.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Have they been carrying that defeat right the way through
to your things that lived rent free in your head?
To use a popular.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Term, Yeah, I think that's the thing does And look
I can talk from an experience, you know, when there
are games that live with you until you get an
opportunity to play that team a game. So that's what
Island have been waiting for. Their fans have been waiting
for it, and you know, they'll be looking back at
what happened in the quarterfinal of the World Cup and
no one expected that. They thought they'd find a way
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to beat the All Blacks and you know now they've
got to wait, you know, more more time to get
to that leve again and they have to go through
the All Blacks again, and so, you know, I just
think there's just so many players that are involved in it,
and there's enough of this All Black team to know
what to expect. And like I say, this has become
one of our great tussles. Now, I don't think this
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is going to go away for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
When you look at result wise, you say, this shouldn't
be a great tussle, but recent history is what sticks
in our mind. And the Iris, now, as you mentioned,
genuinely believe they're on even footing with us. Do we
have that same fear of.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Them though, Yeah, I think we do. I think we
do truly respect them and we sort of know that,
you know, the way that they play the game, and
they have evolved, they have got better, you know, under
Pharah Joe Smith did an unbelievable job. But then you know,
Farrell's taken them to the next level and they know that,
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you know, all facets of the game, I Holland have
got better, have improved. They can match the all Blacks
up front there forward. Beck is incredibly powerful, their scrapage
really well, the great around the park skill set strong.
So you know, all the things that I think that
the Orblecks like to do, they do just as well now.
And so this is why I think for the Orblecks,
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they know how tough it's going to be. And look
at the Orbocs are going to go into this game
with a few guys missing through injury, so they'll be
doubt the underdog, you know, and some young players are
going to I think, get a real fast education about
what it's like to play a Northern Hemisphere team away
in their own house.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
When you look at the Irish and their approach to this,
not on the field, but off the field, and there
was antagonism, I think that's a fair thing to say
through books, through voices and through history last five to
ten years anyway. Do you think maybe everybody thinks that
around the Orblecks, but the Irish are the only one's
brave enough to actually say it.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
It's a really it's a really good question. I'm not sure,
Like I've been really pressed. You know, I was at
the Two Testaments here in New Zealm and England played
the All Backs and even saw on the weekend. You know,
you get the senses of real respect between those two teams,
and you know, there's nothing going on and behind the
scenes they compete and they play hard, and you know,
(07:22):
I just, you know, I think it's just this runs
a little bit deeper, you know, and there's been some
rivalries and there's been things that have been said, you know,
during games and after games, which you know, it's just
added fuel to the fire for both teams. You know,
I think there's a respect in terms of how each
other can play the game, but in terms of the
fact that this is I suppose bragging rights, trying to
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set a standard and trying to you know, I suppose, say,
you might be the number one team in the world,
but we're good enough to go and compete and perform,
and look we are still the All Backs.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
They wilton, under the pressure of the quarter final, what
do they take out of that they're going to reapply
or or leave behind in this game coming up on
Saturday morning, because the pressure of that game. It's washed them.
They're at home in front of a rampant crowd. Can
they respond in the same way? Will the pressure squash them?
What could they learn?
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Look, I think you know, I was at that game
last year, and I think, out of respect for both teams,
both teams played out standing on the day, like the
All Blacks had comfortably their best performance of the season,
and at the Rocky World Cup. You know, they played
a couple of other games where they were dominant, but
that was a fight against arguably the number one team
in the world. Like that, that's what you were they
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were up against. So as much as they wilted under
the pressure. Look, you know, the last what four and
a half minutes of play where you know you've got
two seams, one not giving away a penalty in the
other team not making a mistake, I think actually showed
exactly how good they are. So I think from my perspective,
you know, Islands at home though, no, that they are
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good enough. They've done it before in recent units. They've
got over the hurdle, they've done what they've never done
before when they came to New Zealand. So I don't
think it's wilting under the pressure. I think it's actually,
in some ways it's just them doing what they've done,
not just once, but numerous occasions. They've actually delivered under pressure.
They've just got to do it again, and they've actually
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got the weight of numbers and supporters behind them. So
I think that's why they clearly are favorites going into
the game.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Former All Black broadcaster Jeff Wilson. That joins us. Let's
talk about the bad guy, let's talk about Nigel. Let's
talk about people antagonizing each other. That helps the rivalry.
I don't know if we get that with South Africa.
But they're not afraid to come forward and have a crack,
are they the Irish? And that's got to increase the
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energy around the fixture for all concerned.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Yeah, look, I suppose it's sometimes you know that the
biggest turtle playing against the All Blacks is the mental hurdle,
and you know, and you just talked about dealing with
the pressure. I think that's where Island sort of got
to with the game. And they have a lot of
players who for a long long time hadn't been able
to get over that and had had long careers and
Johnson Sex and clearly's that guy who has led that team.
(10:10):
But what they've done this season and transitioning through, they've
still kept their identity. We all wondered whether or not
that same fire would be there. Well, it's certainly still there,
and the quality is certainly still there, and the belief
most importantly is still there. So in terms of that
Negels Sometimes you need what you know, what you need
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to do to get yourself mentally in that state where
you are going to be able to compete. And for
them for Island, I think it's a bit of that
is the fact that they go out and they do
posture a little bit. I'm not saying they're arrogant. What
I'm doing saying is the fact that they put themselves
in the position to try and mentally put the team
under pressure.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Geef, how do you think Akira Lanni is going to
respond to this? Because he's really been the eye of
the storm after what happened in the World Cup last
year has been a lot at her might expect the
crowd will remind them is he the player that will
rise to this occasion or again, will the thought process
the pressure buckle them?
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Now?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
I think I think everyone can rise to this occasion.
I really do, you know, I think across the board,
you know, you think about the experience and the All Blacks,
the players who have still felt some hurt but also
have got great satisfaction that happened last year. I think
each individual, these guys, you know, I'm expecting to see
the best of everyone that the challenge will be for.
(11:30):
For like I say, the number of young All Blacks
that are going to be involved in this dismatch, is
how they deal with that preature, not just from the opposition,
but from the crowd. A sister, you know, Asafa it
was to Mighty Williams, you know, probably a super VI.
I think you can get to the start line these
guys with huge responsibilities and key pivotal positions. Clearly Damian
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McKenzie looks as though he's going to be in the
teen jersey, So you know when you start looking at that,
I mean that it's actually those guys, I think, because
I know I've got a pretty good sense of what
we're going to get from Ireland. I think they've been
the most consistent team if you go across world, right,
they've probably been the most consistent team over the last
couple of years. You know, you just know that the
quality in every game that they haven't quite won enough
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be right there. That's why I think you know that
the All Blacks will have to have to deal with
you know, and I think individuals, you know, I've got
got a sense that you know, all of the key
players who have been the key players in these games before.
I think they will all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Deliver pressure points. Because I'm not saying that the All
Blacks are immune, because they're not. They could crumble too.
Are there any areas where you think they will have
pressure exerted on them by the Irish? You mentioned the youth,
There's possible there is there any other aspect where maybe
there might be a little gossamer thin.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I think if you're talking about the best team attack
in the world of Island, I mean, if you across
the ball, wouldn't have done in the last two to
three years. Is what you've seen from them as an
outstanding structural play and the great decision making and their
ability who actually creates space. Their movement off the ball
is so very very good. And so the All Blacks defense,
(13:08):
multi phase defense, is going to be attested. The decision
making defensively about who you're targeting, who you're tackling. When
you push off players, that's what's going to be put
under pressure. And I think, you know, even South Africa
have found ways to put the All Black defense under
pressure because what they do do is they've got glupability
at the breakdown to get momentum going forward. They're clean
out their accuracy, their support players really really good. When
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they start going four, five, six phases, you are stressed
and you are stretched, and if you make poor decisions
on inside channel, you'll get hurt. Conversely, if you bite
into too much, they can get the border the outside
like this is. That's probably to me, that's their biggest weapon,
their greatest strength. They've formed and created something that all
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teams have struggled to deal with. When they get some momentum,
you know, when their halves, their inside start to really
create and they start to try and fund space on
the outsides, they look really good.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk News twenty part seven.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Jeff Wilson, they're a broadcaster and of course former All
Black with his thoughts around the concept that the Irish
and now the greatest Test arrivals of the All Blacks. Painly.
I can't speak from inside the All Black camp because
I'm not there, but personally I love the South African
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New Zealand rivalry. I think that it is built on
long arm wrestles where well, at the moment they've got
the upper hand, but it's always gone back and forth.
And I think the All Blacks and the South Africans,
New Zealanders and South Africans have general time and respect
for each other. Think we see that in those exchanges.
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There's something about the Irish, and maybe it is because
they dare voice things that the rest of the world
think but no one wants to say. But Upstartish, bit cocky.
They plants around the place playing this brand of rugby
and look it's been very success for the last few years,
but the new kids on the block. In that way,
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I'd be a lot more irate if the Irish were
to beat the All Blacks on Saturday morning, I having
free here on news talks eb incidentally with Elliott Smith,
then losing to Dare I say, the English or the
South Africans.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Losses to the South Africans don't bother me so much. English,
possibly more, But there's something about the Irish, and there's
something about the history and something about the antagonizing nature
of the Irish team that sits really uncomfortably with me.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And now they regularly beat the All Blacks, with the
exception of that delightful quarter final. What a game of
football that was at the World Cup. They have got
reason to stand there and go, we're the ones. Now,
we're the team that you don't want to lose to.
We are the new great rivalry, the All Blacks and
the Irish. Do you agree or not? O wite hundred
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and eighty ten eighty lines are open. They give me
the hebgbis. I want to beat them. I want to
beat them well, and someone's texted in a lot. Really
it's just an average average team if you take the
three Kiwis out of it. They weren't that sharp until
I started raiding our shawls, were they? I mean, you
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look back at some of the historical dramas off and
on feel between the Irish and the All Blacks to
see why they get triggered. Really looking forward to this,
your thoughts, are they our new greatest rivals? If not,
it's the other team you want to beat the most
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So the Irish our new greatest rivals, according to this text.
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So they want to know what I'm smoking, I'll tell
you right now. Corheba cigars on the planet. Let's move
to our calls. Ten eighty Jason where do they sit
and welcome?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah, welcome, thank you, thanks. I really appreciate it. Look,
I'm an absolute spring Box supporter living in beautiful New
Zealand for the past eight years. I listened to what
you're commenting on now that Yeah, maybe it's a new rivalry,
It absolutely is not. New Zealand are coming back to
the status that they were before. The England game last
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weekend was impressive. They're playing the full eighty and they
absolutely smashed England at the end. They are going to
do it again with Ireland.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
What about it smashed though, Jason short of a couple
of won key kicks. I mean they're always close games.
I say smashed. I think they had a few issues,
but I appreciate where you're going. You're on the way up,
aren't they?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah, no, they absolutely are. But the greatest rivalry in
rugby still to this day is the New Zealand rugby
team and spring Box out. What I am concerned about
is the All Blacks beating England last weekend. I don't
know whether you guys have done it's a favor or
you've poked to be all right, We'll see how that goes.
(19:20):
But definitely if I was a betting man All Blacks
all the way.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
There is the more animosity and energy though and dislike
or dare I say it hate between the Irish and
the All Blacks. When you look at what's happened on
the park and off the park over the last decade
or so, I think the physical rivalry between the All
Blacks and the spring Boxes is fantastic, but I think
it's rooted in as much rage, if you know what
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I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yeah, but we as spring Box supporters as well fill
that with the Northern Hemisphere teams, particularly Ireland and also
quite a bit with England as well. There's a lot
of negativity in the press. There's always this high there's
this chirping around the sides and the media and whatnot.
Did the scoreboard tell the story well.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Jason, I certainly hope the scoreboard shouts a story to us.
Around about eleven o'clock on Saturday morning, you want to
listen in Can Live and Free Elliott Smith. That is
our main game kicks off at team past nine. So
what half half team coming up eleven o'clock. It should
be well and truly over we will see. Let's move
on from Jason one to Jason che good evening.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
And May how's it going?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, very very well, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (20:37):
Look me, I don't even know why you guys are
really considering Ireland as our rivals. Why have they really done?
Like I get their rank number one, but in terms
of have they really accomplished, it's not really much we're
talking about. I agree with the previous caller, South Africa's
our main rival in terms of when it comes to rugby,
and it's Australia second. There's no other other than that,
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because why have they really accomplished? Like you know, they
may have had a good match with us here and there,
but why we do you consider them as the roll?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I don't think Jason, I don't think Australia. I don't
think that's relevant anymore because it's so one sided.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
Yeah, but we still have the trans trans trans tessment
rivalry just to sell what is a second val? I mean, like,
you know, what have Ireland really done? Like I get
there playing good and stuff, but why would you consider
them as well?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, they meet us at home in a series and
they beat us over at Soldier Park, at Soldier Field,
they beat us in Ireland and I think it's the narrative.
I think it's when you look at the likes of
sex and the way he used to behave and the
language they use, when you look at some of the
incidents on field, when you look it off the field
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with Umang back in the day with Brian O'Driscoll, I
think there's a bit more aggressive energy between the two
teams of recent times.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
I mean, they're a good team. They're a good teams,
so a lot of other good teams, but you can't
compare into what we've done as a as a nation
in terms of rugby. Why would you give them the
ad status we're so great? Well, what of Ireland? They're
not as great as us? Why would you give them over?
That's that's a compliment for them.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well okay, Jason, and thank you very much Phil for
sharing that opinion. I think they are clear and present danger.
I think they are a threat, and I don't think
they're particularly pleasant about it either. And we really like
rubbing other teams noses in the dirt, which is why
that quarter final again some last year in the World
Cup was so satisfying, wasn't it. Kane?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
How very very certified mate. Absolutely, I've did still watch
it to this day, highlights on YouTube things and YouTube
and uh, you know, like you're talking about the banter
and they're between teams and players. I mean, the last
time I can remember Wallaby benter was Quaid Cooper, you know,
getting booed in it and Phil Curtains all those years
(22:58):
ago given it, giving it to us. But you know
when we thrash Wallaby is year in the area constantly,
it just it just gets a bit boring. You know,
the world reads for me doesn't really do anymore. So
I will say it's obviously the great spring Rocks my
second favorite team. But I've got to say, you know,
you Springbok fans out there, you'll see on social media's
(23:19):
four whettle cups, it's starting to get a little bit annoying.
But I mean, you know, my favorite players are the
great South African players and privilege to watch Ebon. It's
a bit you know, probably the goat I reckon, so
do you go, mate?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But there's a lot of respects in between the two teams,
isn't There Is there something about did the Irish get
under your skir awey bit? And maybe it's just.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Really yeah, absolutely absolutely and That's good though, mate, because
you know there are nobodies, you know, you know, fifteen
years ago, but you know they're tapping on our doors
and being a real pain and and I love it,
ay mate.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
But do you ever do remember Soldier Field when it
actually happened and the porn rugby the team played that
the first half and maybe a bit longer. We thought
that was a jutnibie we get over, but they haven't
let that one go and you've got to give them
respect for that. You know, they're climbing and.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
I remember, Shak you played the kindo ad lock, which
is a mistake straight away. But but you know, like
if in speaking of Ben too, if if Raiser was
a half decent coach, and I know he is, but
if he was a half decent coach, he would be
planning some way, somehow for Rikio Janny to be the
first try score for the All Blacks and the boy well,
(24:33):
they're just rubbed salt in the winds. I'd love to
see the camera.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Crowding, okay, and gotta fly, mate, Thanks very much for
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we're talking the rivalry, the fresh rivalry between the All
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Blacks and Ireland. Is it approaching becoming the best rivalry,
the greatest rivalry we have for a number of reasons,
and one of them is the needle between the two sides. Hi, Matthew,
how are you go?
Speaker 12 (25:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Good?
Speaker 12 (25:46):
Look, I actually think it's France and Tear the true
who's next big rival? I mean, you've got like I mean,
and to Mac and on to pont beat team is
on the up my view, So I think that's actually
Will We've got to be most worried about.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Historically, they have done some pretty rotten things. I'm not
talking violence, although that horror and non does spring to mind.
But you've had a nasty habit of beating us in
the most inopportune moments, haven't they.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
Yes, you're right. I mean Victor Vedo came back from
France and he talked about the nown academies that got
over there, if anything like that up in New Zealand,
of old on the growth of their players. I mean
they might be bringing over seconds to a here next year.
But the team we're going to play in two weeks,
I think it's a major threat.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
The way it builds, because the narrative around the way
there's twour builds the England then goes to the strength
of Ireland, even stronger to France, and then finishes off
with a whitewash. Is that the right order? Do you
think that's work? Day Kap you an order of threat
England Island, France.
Speaker 12 (26:55):
Well, you know, we were definitely lucky last week against England.
I mean, if you look at the three tests to
play there against them, in reality, they could have won
all three, so.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You know, Matthew, but they didn't.
Speaker 12 (27:08):
There's the thing, right, Yeah, Well it only really came
down to it. I mean, why did that take Marcus
smack off. If they ever kicked them on the whole game,
probably wouldn't have won it. He would sing us in
the kicks, So I mean it was a top of
the coin, really, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That could have happened earlier. I think when you look
at the last minute Matthew, thanks for your call, people go, well,
that miss cat cost them the game? What else cost
them the game earlier? On on the piece if people
would say, oh, England should have won, they probably deserved
to win. But you deserve to win if you win.
If you don't win, you didn't deserve to win. To me,
it's pretty black and white. It's get and dry. That's
(27:44):
the way it operates. And England couldn't get the job
done twice over here, so they weren't good enough. The
Irish couldn't get the job done against the All Blacks
in the quarter final of the World Cup because they
weren't good enough, and that would have been just in
their mind, seething and month after month after month waiting
(28:09):
for this chance to wreak revenge on the All Blacks,
and the media have been climbing into it as well,
really pushing all the buttons of the Irish players possibly
the All Black players too. Back to what I said
around that the weight of expectation that the Irish carried
(28:34):
into that quarter final squashed them. They simply couldn't perform
under the weight of expectation and pressure internally, internally and externally.
And then the All Blacks just piled it on top
of it and squashed them. So the same thing happened
on Saturday morning at home angry at Rico Yoanni looking
(29:00):
at a team that's lost a couple of key players
and the All Blacks have well that way they crushed
them again. Have they got the ability to actually get
the job done when it counts? At Homer? That's got
to be playing on their minds. Surely it may not
be the greatest rivalry, but it's shaping up to be that.
(29:22):
And I think across a number of parameters, and that
is results. That is the antagonizing nature of the two teams.
It's the swagger of the Irish to the manor born Loo.
It's got legs. It has nothing like a good rivalry.
(29:42):
I ain't nothing like having a bit of rage in
your bloodstream to keep things going on. Eighteen and a
half away from eight let's run through a couple of
texts for you. Richard says that don't forget that Ireland
beat South Africa in South Africa only a few months ago.
I'm not saying they're a bad rugby team because they
are plainly not. Can they the pressure in their own
(30:08):
backyard Grant rights, We've lost the two best locks in
the world, but the boys are building good, building good,
and Rob writes this good evening, Darcy, I hope we
stuffed the Irish and all reality though it all starts
up front, and we know with the myth Jason Ryan
(30:29):
coaching the Fords with no retallic white lock and paler
it is likely to be the other way around, and
the Irish Fords will hit the All Blacks of the
same brutality that they did South Africa in South Africa,
unlike the all black team this year, the Irish one
in South Africa. Rob, Yeah, absolutely, but we all know
(30:51):
what happened in the past is zero bearing on what
may or may not happen in the future. Right that
you can feel the heat already coming from the other
side of the world looking forward to listen to Elliott's smith,
his vocal cords, his brain, his throat and you'll pound
it out. Games starts at ten past nine Saturday morning,
(31:13):
live and free here on News Talk z B get
amongst coming up next on the program, were talking about
a basketball Kareem Lopez joins us Oaturday and he's on
breakers NBL next star guy with great talent, great promise,
great hair, really the best hair in the NBL, and
he's seventeen. We'll talk to him next and when Donald
(31:39):
Trump addresses, we will be there to listen. Don't stress
and it's not me, It'll be Joe Mark Slash's program.
As his News Talk said, baby.
Speaker 13 (32:00):
You know what you mean, me too, look what I
mean for you know what?
Speaker 12 (32:04):
Outside of the Lopez.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
One, low Pears takes a baseline and finishes again if
it says he's a baby, but his game says I'm ready.
Speaker 13 (32:16):
He there like a rent from when I come back,
Clay Jot were in the four five. I need to
play games and.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Quite the game there. Kareem low Peers, he joins US.
Now I caught up with the earlier and the piece
of Trump does arrive. We can get out of this
interview and we're listening to mister Trump. Green. Welcome to
the program. Next our player you are and New Zealand
a breaker and you must have been immensely satisfied with
(32:47):
the result against Melbourne United after well basically you've only
just come back from injury and welcome hey man.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
Yeah for sure, I mean thanks for having me here.
And also yeah, I mean very happy with the result obviously,
and just happy that we could get get a win
and just.
Speaker 10 (33:03):
Go either and perform what triggered.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm presuming that coach Kolp knows what he's doing, because
you missed a lot of stars in that game, but
you had you gelled so well.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
Oh yeah, I mean we obviously missing some key players,
but I mean the coaches always tell us we have
no time to cry, we have no time to make excuses,
so we just got to keep keep our head down,
work and just like next man up and just try
and stay together as a group and just go for
the goal. That's getting every single wing we can.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You had a good time of it out there as
far as the box score, your status she goes you
managed to pick yourself up a double doubles, a few
offensive rebounds and one killer defensive rebound at the end,
So you're performing everywhere. Is that? How you like to
seat yourself up. Is this what you do?
Speaker 14 (33:46):
I mean, the boxer is not really the most important
thing for me. I'm just trying to go out there
and help the team win. I'm just trying to go
and make an impact. There is rebounding, scoring, passing, blocking
shots that did the last game. So I'm just trying
to like make winning plays and just get the win
at the end of the day. So I'll try and
do whatever I can.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You're a four, do you stick really in the three
of the full spot? Where do you sit?
Speaker 14 (34:09):
I mean, I would do whatever. I mean, I'm playing
more of the small for it, but I feel like
I'm a very versatile player and I can I can
move around and just play whatever position the coach.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, enjoying it over in New Zealand. It's quite a
journey for You've got what a couple of years before
the draft and the NBA CEA over here for two
years in the Next Star Program. What got you here?
What was the trigger to get you over here to
New Zealand?
Speaker 14 (34:35):
Oh well it was. It was a great success that
they have in lately, because I mean there's a lot
of examples. You know, Lassier in Lazier's draft the year
prior to that, and like, I mean, the next part
program has been a very successful program in the last
couple of years, and I just me and my family
just came to the to the conclusion that it was
gonna be it was gonna be great for me, and
(34:56):
it was gonna help me develop and just be the
best version of myself. And I feel like I feel
like it was a right choice.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Carrying my paces guest out of the breakers. When you
look at Hampton and Rupier and the likes, they've worked
this league very well to move on up. Is it
the physicality of the league? Is it the fact that
maybe what do you put down to about the NBL
what attracts you to about this particular league.
Speaker 14 (35:22):
Well, obviously it's a very very competitive league, a very
talented league. It's a very high paced league also, so
I feel like that's something that emulates a little with
the NBA. It's obviously not the same, but it's similar
in some sort of way because it's a very fast
paid league. I mean, just trying to adjust myself, just
trying to be a better professional, learn how to be
(35:45):
a professional, and just learn about the game and just
improducing the day.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Over in New Zealand, you're a young man, you're seventeen
years old. What's the cultural difference being like for you're
sitting foot here in Auckland having to readjust.
Speaker 14 (36:02):
Well, it's been, it's been. It's obviously different, friend. I
mean it's being in the shock and some and some things.
But I feel like I've adapted good. I mean, the
biggest things for me is the the weather, like the
stations of the year, Like right now it's like winter,
and over in Mexico it's the summer right now. Well, no,
(36:23):
it's it's transitioning right now, but like it was the
summer when I when I left and I came to
New Zealand, it was winter. So I feel like that's
the biggest thing that threw me off a little bit.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
What about things like the food, the traffic, the clear area,
the sea. I don't know where you're from Mexico, but
it's very different.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
Huh, Yeah it is.
Speaker 14 (36:42):
I mean, I mean I'm okay with the food.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I like.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
I like the food.
Speaker 14 (36:46):
I really enjoy eating all all sorts of stuff. So
I feel like I like Musican food too.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Being from Mexico. Are you a Formula one fan. No,
not really, Okay, fine, oh I am. I was just
gonna talk to you about a periods, but I'll leave
that when a line I know him.
Speaker 14 (37:03):
I obviously know him, but I'm not a big fan.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Of like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Follow this tell us about prospects in the NBA and
where you sit right now in your program? You're protected
in the draft. What does all this mean? What are
your your prospects for the big step up in a
couple of years.
Speaker 14 (37:18):
Well, I mean, I'm just I mean, I obviously want
to be as as a draft draft pick as they can,
but I'm just I'm just focused on the present right now.
I'm just focusing on doing the little things that are
going to get me there, Just working every single day
and just trying to be the best version of myself,
which I know I can be. So yeah, I mean,
it's just I'm just focused on the present so I
can I can be better in the future.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Have you got a best relationship over here? Is there's
someone on the team that you've decided you guys get
on pretty well. You that kind of guy. That's important
that you have some relationships off the court with some
of the some of your teammates.
Speaker 14 (37:53):
Oh with everybody. Everybody's everybody's really cool. Everybody's really really
cool with each other. So I'm really I'm really glad
that I have a great group of teammates.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And one last thing, you've got the best haircut and
the whole of the NBL never change, never change.
Speaker 14 (38:09):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Man, And on that we'll let you get on with business.
Kareem Low Peterz, thanks very much for your time. Play well,
play hard.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Thank you, Thank you for having you hear it from
the biggest names and sports and men. Have your say
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home of sports news Talks.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
It be now that man will be a top NBA peck.
Keep your eyes on him, although you can't do it
up close in person at the moment because the Breakers
are off overseas. They have played Melbourne away. They've got
the jack Jumpers away, then Taipans away, and then the
Hawks away, and then the Wildcats away. They're not back
(38:46):
in Auckland until the fifth of December, up against Melbourne United,
Yelch seven away from eight. Still no word on where
Donald Trump is, but we'll be right across that along
with Marcus Lash Cameron Norriy. He's launching a comeback. He's
been to the ASP Classic eight times. Here comes the
ninth for mister Norrie.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Like I said, I really play well at the tournament.
I feel good there, and I think honestly, this year
I didn't play really many outdoor hard tournaments or complete
to them, and the schedule didn't allow for it to
happen for whatever reason with sickness or injury, so I
really was not able to gain any momentum throughout the
(39:28):
year and playing on my best surfaces. So I was
I saw aucklann as obviously I grew up there special
place for me and it's an outdoor hard tournament and
it's my best surface. So let's let's go back to
basics and play tournaments where I play well and feel
good at. And Auckland is definitely one of those ones.
(39:49):
You know, I made the final there twice so and
it's a great for me, great prep for Australian Open
and being in an outdoor hard tournament. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Cameron and Nari there faithful on the fact is entering
his ninth as B Classic and he covert at all
there it is great pray beheat of the als open
and something that well like he's in New Zelander by
South Africa through England. But a lot of players come
over here because they like the distraction. They like that
it's not the big bright lights. They like that they
can relax and walk around. That they like the energy
(40:19):
behind the ASB Classic and it's the direct results that
it's fantastic players in both the men's and the women's draw.
Just to clear up a few things for your hear
off of the text line, Darcy, is the rugby on
Saturday or Sunday? I thought it was Sunday, but you
keep saying Saturday. Can you please confirm the day? Ye,
it's for Friday night over there, which means it's a
(40:42):
Saturday morning over here. And they've whipped the day's prep office.
Pretty cunning stuff that so yes, it will be at
ten past nine on Saturday morning, live and free here
on News Talk.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Z B.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Elliott Smith has the call. Just to clear that up.
More texts on nine two nine two that's z B
z B. The All Blacks do their best to give
them that game and it will be twenty points to
the All Blacks. I don't know. I really don't know.
I want nothing more than the All Blacks to run
(41:15):
a roughshod over the Irish and try and redress this
imbalance of recent times. I think when you look at
the nature of these two tensine you look at the
key players that are not there for New Zealand, do
you start getting a tag concerned as might freak you
out coming into that position? His ability or inability to
(41:36):
constantly throw in straight is that a problem A Damien McKenzie,
has he got enough to calm the farm when things
start getting sketchy. I'm still not convinced he does, but
he's the best we've got at the moment. Camon Roy
guards coming at nine straight away? Do you give him
that trusting hand him that role because he's may have
(41:59):
a better relationship with Damien McKenzie. There are so many
variables and that's probably while this test match is so mouthwatering,
imagine the crowd there fever pitch and the only positive
we're not a positive for the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Is seeing.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
If the Iris will whilt under the pressure of expectations.
Done it before, they could do it again. A lot
on Scott Robinson's men on Saturday morning, and we'll be
there ten past nine. Elliott Smith with the call on
Darcy Auto Grave and he does thanks very much for
producing the program. Thanks to Jeff Wilson, Cream Blow Pears
(42:46):
as well. Coming up the latest in sports news, and
we're up after that Marcus Lush and Donald Trump. This
is News Talks EB.
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Be good evening and welcome on into sports Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Myname is Darcy Waldgrave. Six November twenty twenty four. It's
a Wednesday, seven after seven, and we'll be looking to
cross to Donald at Trump as soon as he becomes available,
So hanging the political monsters. We will not leave you
hanging Donald Trump when we can get hold of him.
(00:55):
But on tonight's program, aside there, we're going to talk
a lot about sport and why wouldn't He's called sports
Talk after all. Jeff Wilson will join us broadcast of
a sky also a former All Black, on the rivalry
between All Blacks and Islanders that surpassed other great rivalries
in New Zealand rugby history. We'll take your thoughts on
(01:16):
that as well, and eighty ten eighty toward the end
of the program will catch up with New Zealand to
break it in NBL. Next star Kareem Lopez had a
great game up against Melbourne United, a couple of games
back from injury, where he sits how he's feeling what
happens now. Kareem Lopez to join us before the end
(01:36):
of the program, before any of that, though, it's still
a whole lot of this today it is for today
Iris Santa Gary Ringrose has been impressed with the contribution
of new Backs coach Andrew Goodman. The format Crusaders staff
I took over the role from Mike judderbar Cats.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
I guess challenging us in different ways to grow and
evolve and be better than we have done before. So
he's definitely hit the ground running from that front.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
All White's gaffer Darren Paisley, is very satisfied with the
quality of the squad he has named for this month's
World Cup qualifiers to be played at home. They're very
good players, so yeah, having them return is great and
the only one that we really lost was Ben Old
to an injury, so apart from that, we've got a
really strong squad. Josh Burnett flogged the stage when and
(02:28):
the Orange Jersey in today's fourth stage of the Tour
of South and the twenty four year old from Team
Creation signs might ta Q isn't counting any poultry yet though.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
We take things day by day. Head this racer, yeah,
it's on my mind.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah, and the South African born news ill and raised
Englishman Cameron and Nora will be appearing for the ninth
time at the ASP Classic. He's had a problematic year
on court so far, so Ken and what was that
all about?
Speaker 6 (02:58):
I was not as patient as I could have been,
So I think that was one thing I could have
improved on.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
You know.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
I wanted everything to go well and feel perfect right away,
and I think that's not realistic. I think I learned
that in the results.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
And that's sport today.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
It is nine past seven. Are still waiting to cross
to Donald Trump. Earlier on today I caught up with
former All Black hand broadcaster Jeff Wilson to look at
the rivalry, the new rivalry. And I'm suggesting Jeff Wilson,
and incidentally, we will be able to pause out of
this as soon as Donald Trump does become available, so
(03:35):
don't stress there. So Jeff joins us now and this
All Blacks Island rivalry. It really is the new great
rugby rivalry, and it will welcome to you.
Speaker 7 (03:48):
If you're talking more welcomes. I'm pretty sure that the Blacks,
when they get to it a bit at the stadium,
we're gottle bit. More than that, there's certainly some heat
in this contest. Now if we know the rivalry over
the last five, six, seven years, and now I think
it's it's sort of almost expected. You know that Ireland
have been one of the best teams in the world
over the last few years. They've proven that time and
(04:09):
time again. And when they came to New Zealand and
my serious year for the first time, it's almost like
in their own years that have conquered the beast and
their expectations are now that they can do it any
any time they'd like. And a lot happened last year,
in particular.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Ruggy World Cup with my Lord.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
I'll tell you what this game is going to have.
It's going to have plenty of it because for them,
we're are to a massive point.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Have they been carrying that defeat right the way through
to your things that lived rent free in your head?
To use a popular.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Term, Yeah, I think that's the thing does And look
I can talk from an experience, you know, when there
are games that live with you until you get an
opportunity to play that team a game. So that's what
Island have been waiting for. Their fans have been waiting
for it, and you know, they'll be looking back at
what happened in the quarterfinal of the World Cup and
no one expected that. They thought they'd find a way
(05:00):
to beat the All Blacks and you know now they've
got to wait, you know, more more time to get
to that leve again and they have to go through
the All Blacks again, and so, you know, I just
think there's just so many players that are involved in it,
and there's enough of this All Black team to know
what to expect. And like I say, this has become
one of our great tussles. Now, I don't think this
(05:20):
is going to go away for a very long time.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
When you look at result wise, you say, this shouldn't
be a great tussle, but recent history is what sticks
in our mind. And the Iris, now, as you mentioned,
genuinely believe they're on even footing with us. Do we
have that same fear of.
Speaker 7 (05:39):
Them though, Yeah, I think we do. I think we
do truly respect them and we sort of know that,
you know, the way that they play the game, and
they have evolved, they have got better, you know, under
Pharah Joe Smith did an unbelievable job. But then you know,
Farrell's taken them to the next level and they know that,
(05:59):
you know, all facets of the game, I Holland have
got better, have improved. They can match the all Blacks
up front there forward. Beck is incredibly powerful, their scrapage
really well, the great around the park skill set strong.
So you know, all the things that I think that
the Orblecks like to do, they do just as well now.
And so this is why I think for the Orblecks,
(06:21):
they know how tough it's going to be. And look
at the Orbocs are going to go into this game
with a few guys missing through injury, so they'll be
doubt the underdog, you know, and some young players are
going to I think, get a real fast education about
what it's like to play a Northern Hemisphere team away
in their own house.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
When you look at the Irish and their approach to this,
not on the field, but off the field, and there
was antagonism, I think that's a fair thing to say
through books, through voices and through history last five to
ten years anyway. Do you think maybe everybody thinks that
around the Orblecks, but the Irish are the only one's
brave enough to actually say it.
Speaker 7 (07:00):
It's a really it's a really good question. I'm not sure,
Like I've been really pressed. You know, I was at
the Two Testaments here in New Zealm and England played
the All Backs and even saw on the weekend. You know,
you get the senses of real respect between those two teams,
and you know, there's nothing going on and behind the
scenes they compete and they play hard, and you know,
(07:22):
I just, you know, I think it's just this runs
a little bit deeper, you know, and there's been some
rivalries and there's been things that have been said, you know,
during games and after games, which you know, it's just
added fuel to the fire for both teams. You know,
I think there's a respect in terms of how each
other can play the game, but in terms of the
fact that this is I suppose bragging rights, trying to
(07:44):
set a standard and trying to you know, I suppose, say,
you might be the number one team in the world,
but we're good enough to go and compete and perform,
and look we are still the All Backs.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
They wilton, under the pressure of the quarter final, what
do they take out of that they're going to reapply
or or leave behind in this game coming up on
Saturday morning, because the pressure of that game. It's washed them.
They're at home in front of a rampant crowd. Can
they respond in the same way? Will the pressure squash them?
What could they learn?
Speaker 8 (08:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (08:16):
Look, I think you know, I was at that game
last year, and I think, out of respect for both teams,
both teams played out standing on the day, like the
All Blacks had comfortably their best performance of the season,
and at the Rocky World Cup. You know, they played
a couple of other games where they were dominant, but
that was a fight against arguably the number one team
in the world. Like that, that's what you were they
(08:37):
were up against. So as much as they wilted under
the pressure. Look, you know, the last what four and
a half minutes of play where you know you've got
two seams, one not giving away a penalty in the
other team not making a mistake, I think actually showed
exactly how good they are. So I think from my perspective,
you know, Islands at home though, no, that they are
(08:58):
good enough. They've done it before in recent units. They've
got over the hurdle, they've done what they've never done
before when they came to New Zealand. So I don't
think it's wilting under the pressure. I think it's actually,
in some ways it's just them doing what they've done,
not just once, but numerous occasions. They've actually delivered under pressure.
They've just got to do it again, and they've actually
(09:18):
got the weight of numbers and supporters behind them. So
I think that's why they clearly are favorites going into
the game.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Former All Black broadcaster Jeff Wilson. That joins us. Let's
talk about the bad guy, let's talk about Nigel. Let's
talk about people antagonizing each other. That helps the rivalry.
I don't know if we get that with South Africa.
But they're not afraid to come forward and have a crack,
are they the Irish? And that's got to increase the
(09:44):
energy around the fixture for all concerned.
Speaker 7 (09:47):
Yeah, look, I suppose it's sometimes you know that the
biggest turtle playing against the All Blacks is the mental hurdle,
and you know, and you just talked about dealing with
the pressure. I think that's where Island sort of got
to with the game. And they have a lot of
players who for a long long time hadn't been able
to get over that and had had long careers and
Johnson Sex and clearly's that guy who has led that team.
(10:10):
But what they've done this season and transitioning through, they've
still kept their identity. We all wondered whether or not
that same fire would be there. Well, it's certainly still there,
and the quality is certainly still there, and the belief
most importantly is still there. So in terms of that
Negels Sometimes you need what you know, what you need
(10:31):
to do to get yourself mentally in that state where
you are going to be able to compete. And for
them for Island, I think it's a bit of that
is the fact that they go out and they do
posture a little bit. I'm not saying they're arrogant. What
I'm doing saying is the fact that they put themselves
in the position to try and mentally put the team
under pressure.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Geef, how do you think Akira Lanni is going to
respond to this? Because he's really been the eye of
the storm after what happened in the World Cup last
year has been a lot at her might expect the
crowd will remind them is he the player that will
rise to this occasion or again, will the thought process
the pressure buckle them?
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Now?
Speaker 7 (11:09):
I think I think everyone can rise to this occasion.
I really do, you know, I think across the board,
you know, you think about the experience and the All Blacks,
the players who have still felt some hurt but also
have got great satisfaction that happened last year. I think
each individual, these guys, you know, I'm expecting to see
the best of everyone that the challenge will be for.
(11:30):
For like I say, the number of young All Blacks
that are going to be involved in this dismatch, is
how they deal with that preature, not just from the opposition,
but from the crowd. A sister, you know, Asafa it
was to Mighty Williams, you know, probably a super VI.
I think you can get to the start line these
guys with huge responsibilities and key pivotal positions. Clearly Damian
(11:53):
McKenzie looks as though he's going to be in the
teen jersey, So you know when you start looking at that,
I mean that it's actually those guys, I think, because
I know I've got a pretty good sense of what
we're going to get from Ireland. I think they've been
the most consistent team if you go across world, right,
they've probably been the most consistent team over the last
couple of years. You know, you just know that the
quality in every game that they haven't quite won enough
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be right there. That's why I think you know that
the All Blacks will have to have to deal with
you know, and I think individuals, you know, I've got
got a sense that you know, all of the key
players who have been the key players in these games before.
I think they will all.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Deliver pressure points. Because I'm not saying that the All
Blacks are immune, because they're not. They could crumble too.
Are there any areas where you think they will have
pressure exerted on them by the Irish? You mentioned the youth,
There's possible there is there any other aspect where maybe
there might be a little gossamer thin.
Speaker 7 (12:47):
I think if you're talking about the best team attack
in the world of Island, I mean, if you across
the ball, wouldn't have done in the last two to
three years. Is what you've seen from them as an
outstanding structural play and the great decision making and their
ability who actually creates space. Their movement off the ball
is so very very good. And so the All Blacks defense,
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multi phase defense, is going to be attested. The decision
making defensively about who you're targeting, who you're tackling. When
you push off players, that's what's going to be put
under pressure. And I think, you know, even South Africa
have found ways to put the All Black defense under
pressure because what they do do is they've got glupability
at the breakdown to get momentum going forward. They're clean
out their accuracy, their support players really really good. When
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they start going four, five, six phases, you are stressed
and you are stretched, and if you make poor decisions
on inside channel, you'll get hurt. Conversely, if you bite
into too much, they can get the border the outside
like this is. That's probably to me, that's their biggest weapon,
their greatest strength. They've formed and created something that all
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teams have struggled to deal with. When they get some momentum,
you know, when their halves, their inside start to really
create and they start to try and fund space on
the outsides, they look really good.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
We've got the breakdown on Sports Talk News twenty part seven.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Jeff Wilson, they're a broadcaster and of course former All
Black with his thoughts around the concept that the Irish
and now the greatest Test arrivals of the All Blacks. Painly.
I can't speak from inside the All Black camp because
I'm not there, but personally I love the South African
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New Zealand rivalry. I think that it is built on
long arm wrestles where well, at the moment they've got
the upper hand, but it's always gone back and forth.
And I think the All Blacks and the South Africans,
New Zealanders and South Africans have general time and respect
for each other. Think we see that in those exchanges.
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There's something about the Irish, and maybe it is because
they dare voice things that the rest of the world
think but no one wants to say. But Upstartish, bit cocky.
They plants around the place playing this brand of rugby
and look it's been very success for the last few years,
but the new kids on the block. In that way,
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I'd be a lot more irate if the Irish were
to beat the All Blacks on Saturday morning, I having
free here on news talks eb incidentally with Elliott Smith,
then losing to Dare I say, the English or the
South Africans.
Speaker 9 (15:36):
Losses to the South Africans don't bother me so much. English,
possibly more, But there's something about the Irish, and there's
something about the history and something about the antagonizing nature
of the Irish team that sits really uncomfortably with me.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
And now they regularly beat the All Blacks, with the
exception of that delightful quarter final. What a game of
football that was at the World Cup. They have got
reason to stand there and go, we're the ones. Now,
we're the team that you don't want to lose to.
We are the new great rivalry, the All Blacks and
the Irish. Do you agree or not? O wite hundred
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and eighty ten eighty lines are open. They give me
the hebgbis. I want to beat them. I want to
beat them well, and someone's texted in a lot. Really
it's just an average average team if you take the
three Kiwis out of it. They weren't that sharp until
I started raiding our shawls, were they? I mean, you
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look back at some of the historical dramas off and
on feel between the Irish and the All Blacks to
see why they get triggered. Really looking forward to this,
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it's the other team you want to beat the most
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So the Irish our new greatest rivals, according to this text.
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So they want to know what I'm smoking, I'll tell
you right now. Corheba cigars on the planet. Let's move
to our calls. Ten eighty Jason where do they sit
and welcome?
Speaker 5 (18:13):
Yeah, welcome, thank you, thanks. I really appreciate it. Look,
I'm an absolute spring Box supporter living in beautiful New
Zealand for the past eight years. I listened to what
you're commenting on now that Yeah, maybe it's a new rivalry,
It absolutely is not. New Zealand are coming back to
the status that they were before. The England game last
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weekend was impressive. They're playing the full eighty and they
absolutely smashed England at the end. They are going to
do it again with Ireland.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
What about it smashed though, Jason short of a couple
of won key kicks. I mean they're always close games.
I say smashed. I think they had a few issues,
but I appreciate where you're going. You're on the way up,
aren't they?
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Yeah, no, they absolutely are. But the greatest rivalry in
rugby still to this day is the New Zealand rugby
team and spring Box out. What I am concerned about
is the All Blacks beating England last weekend. I don't
know whether you guys have done it's a favor or
you've poked to be all right, We'll see how that goes.
(19:20):
But definitely if I was a betting man All Blacks
all the way.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
There is the more animosity and energy though and dislike
or dare I say it hate between the Irish and
the All Blacks. When you look at what's happened on
the park and off the park over the last decade
or so, I think the physical rivalry between the All
Blacks and the spring Boxes is fantastic, but I think
it's rooted in as much rage, if you know what
(19:48):
I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:50):
Yeah, but we as spring Box supporters as well fill
that with the Northern Hemisphere teams, particularly Ireland and also
quite a bit with England as well. There's a lot
of negativity in the press. There's always this high there's
this chirping around the sides and the media and whatnot.
Did the scoreboard tell the story well.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Jason, I certainly hope the scoreboard shouts a story to us.
Around about eleven o'clock on Saturday morning, you want to
listen in Can Live and Free Elliott Smith. That is
our main game kicks off at team past nine. So
what half half team coming up eleven o'clock. It should
be well and truly over we will see. Let's move
on from Jason one to Jason che good evening.
Speaker 10 (20:33):
And May how's it going?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
Yeah, very very well, what's on your mind?
Speaker 10 (20:37):
Look me, I don't even know why you guys are
really considering Ireland as our rivals. Why have they really done?
Like I get their rank number one, but in terms
of have they really accomplished, it's not really much we're
talking about. I agree with the previous caller, South Africa's
our main rival in terms of when it comes to rugby,
and it's Australia second. There's no other other than that,
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because why have they really accomplished? Like you know, they
may have had a good match with us here and there,
but why we do you consider them as the roll?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I don't think Jason, I don't think Australia. I don't
think that's relevant anymore because it's so one sided.
Speaker 10 (21:16):
Yeah, but we still have the trans trans trans tessment
rivalry just to sell what is a second val? I mean, like,
you know, what have Ireland really done? Like I get
there playing good and stuff, but why would you consider
them as well?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Well, they meet us at home in a series and
they beat us over at Soldier Park, at Soldier Field,
they beat us in Ireland and I think it's the narrative.
I think it's when you look at the likes of
sex and the way he used to behave and the
language they use, when you look at some of the
incidents on field, when you look it off the field
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with Umang back in the day with Brian O'Driscoll, I
think there's a bit more aggressive energy between the two
teams of recent times.
Speaker 10 (22:00):
I mean, they're a good team. They're a good teams,
so a lot of other good teams, but you can't
compare into what we've done as a as a nation
in terms of rugby. Why would you give them the
ad status we're so great? Well, what of Ireland? They're
not as great as us? Why would you give them over?
That's that's a compliment for them.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Well okay, Jason, and thank you very much Phil for
sharing that opinion. I think they are clear and present danger.
I think they are a threat, and I don't think
they're particularly pleasant about it either. And we really like
rubbing other teams noses in the dirt, which is why
that quarter final again some last year in the World
Cup was so satisfying, wasn't it. Kane?
Speaker 8 (22:38):
How very very certified mate. Absolutely, I've did still watch
it to this day, highlights on YouTube things and YouTube
and uh, you know, like you're talking about the banter
and they're between teams and players. I mean, the last
time I can remember Wallaby benter was Quaid Cooper, you know,
getting booed in it and Phil Curtains all those years
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ago given it, giving it to us. But you know
when we thrash Wallaby is year in the area constantly,
it just it just gets a bit boring. You know,
the world reads for me doesn't really do anymore. So
I will say it's obviously the great spring Rocks my
second favorite team. But I've got to say, you know,
you Springbok fans out there, you'll see on social media's
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four whettle cups, it's starting to get a little bit annoying.
But I mean, you know, my favorite players are the
great South African players and privilege to watch Ebon. It's
a bit you know, probably the goat I reckon, so
do you go, mate?
Speaker 3 (23:33):
But there's a lot of respects in between the two teams,
isn't There Is there something about did the Irish get
under your skir awey bit? And maybe it's just.
Speaker 8 (23:41):
Really yeah, absolutely absolutely and That's good though, mate, because
you know there are nobodies, you know, you know, fifteen
years ago, but you know they're tapping on our doors
and being a real pain and and I love it,
ay mate.
Speaker 3 (23:54):
But do you ever do remember Soldier Field when it
actually happened and the porn rugby the team played that
the first half and maybe a bit longer. We thought
that was a jutnibie we get over, but they haven't
let that one go and you've got to give them
respect for that. You know, they're climbing and.
Speaker 8 (24:11):
I remember, Shak you played the kindo ad lock, which
is a mistake straight away. But but you know, like
if in speaking of Ben too, if if Raiser was
a half decent coach, and I know he is, but
if he was a half decent coach, he would be
planning some way, somehow for Rikio Janny to be the
first try score for the All Blacks and the boy well,
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they're just rubbed salt in the winds. I'd love to
see the camera.
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we're talking the rivalry, the fresh rivalry between the All
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Blacks and Ireland. Is it approaching becoming the best rivalry,
the greatest rivalry we have for a number of reasons,
and one of them is the needle between the two sides. Hi, Matthew,
how are you go?
Speaker 12 (25:45):
Buddy?
Speaker 5 (25:45):
Good?
Speaker 12 (25:46):
Look, I actually think it's France and Tear the true
who's next big rival? I mean, you've got like I mean,
and to Mac and on to pont beat team is
on the up my view, So I think that's actually
Will We've got to be most worried about.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Historically, they have done some pretty rotten things. I'm not
talking violence, although that horror and non does spring to mind.
But you've had a nasty habit of beating us in
the most inopportune moments, haven't they.
Speaker 12 (26:15):
Yes, you're right. I mean Victor Vedo came back from
France and he talked about the nown academies that got
over there, if anything like that up in New Zealand,
of old on the growth of their players. I mean
they might be bringing over seconds to a here next year.
But the team we're going to play in two weeks,
I think it's a major threat.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
The way it builds, because the narrative around the way
there's twour builds the England then goes to the strength
of Ireland, even stronger to France, and then finishes off
with a whitewash. Is that the right order? Do you
think that's work? Day Kap you an order of threat
England Island, France.
Speaker 12 (26:55):
Well, you know, we were definitely lucky last week against England.
I mean, if you look at the three tests to
play there against them, in reality, they could have won
all three, so.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
You know, Matthew, but they didn't.
Speaker 12 (27:08):
There's the thing, right, Yeah, Well it only really came
down to it. I mean, why did that take Marcus
smack off. If they ever kicked them on the whole game,
probably wouldn't have won it. He would sing us in
the kicks, So I mean it was a top of
the coin, really, wasn't it.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
That could have happened earlier. I think when you look
at the last minute Matthew, thanks for your call, people go, well,
that miss cat cost them the game? What else cost
them the game earlier? On on the piece if people
would say, oh, England should have won, they probably deserved
to win. But you deserve to win if you win.
If you don't win, you didn't deserve to win. To me,
it's pretty black and white. It's get and dry. That's
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the way it operates. And England couldn't get the job
done twice over here, so they weren't good enough. The
Irish couldn't get the job done against the All Blacks
in the quarter final of the World Cup because they
weren't good enough, and that would have been just in
their mind, seething and month after month after month waiting
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for this chance to wreak revenge on the All Blacks,
and the media have been climbing into it as well,
really pushing all the buttons of the Irish players possibly
the All Black players too. Back to what I said
around that the weight of expectation that the Irish carried
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into that quarter final squashed them. They simply couldn't perform
under the weight of expectation and pressure internally, internally and externally.
And then the All Blacks just piled it on top
of it and squashed them. So the same thing happened
on Saturday morning at home angry at Rico Yoanni looking
(29:00):
at a team that's lost a couple of key players
and the All Blacks have well that way they crushed
them again. Have they got the ability to actually get
the job done when it counts? At Homer? That's got
to be playing on their minds. Surely it may not
be the greatest rivalry, but it's shaping up to be that.
(29:22):
And I think across a number of parameters, and that
is results. That is the antagonizing nature of the two teams.
It's the swagger of the Irish to the manor born Loo.
It's got legs. It has nothing like a good rivalry.
(29:42):
I ain't nothing like having a bit of rage in
your bloodstream to keep things going on. Eighteen and a
half away from eight let's run through a couple of
texts for you. Richard says that don't forget that Ireland
beat South Africa in South Africa only a few months ago.
I'm not saying they're a bad rugby team because they
are plainly not. Can they the pressure in their own
(30:08):
backyard Grant rights, We've lost the two best locks in
the world, but the boys are building good, building good,
and Rob writes this good evening, Darcy, I hope we
stuffed the Irish and all reality though it all starts
up front, and we know with the myth Jason Ryan
(30:29):
coaching the Fords with no retallic white lock and paler
it is likely to be the other way around, and
the Irish Fords will hit the All Blacks of the
same brutality that they did South Africa in South Africa,
unlike the all black team this year, the Irish one
in South Africa. Rob, Yeah, absolutely, but we all know
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what happened in the past is zero bearing on what
may or may not happen in the future. Right that
you can feel the heat already coming from the other
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his vocal cords, his brain, his throat and you'll pound
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Now I caught up with the earlier and the piece
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the program. Next our player you are and New Zealand
a breaker and you must have been immensely satisfied with
(32:47):
the result against Melbourne United after well basically you've only
just come back from injury and welcome hey man.
Speaker 14 (32:54):
Yeah for sure, I mean thanks for having me here.
And also yeah, I mean very happy with the result obviously,
and just happy that we could get get a win
and just.
Speaker 10 (33:03):
Go either and perform what triggered.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
I'm presuming that coach Kolp knows what he's doing, because
you missed a lot of stars in that game, but
you had you gelled so well.
Speaker 14 (33:14):
Oh yeah, I mean we obviously missing some key players,
but I mean the coaches always tell us we have
no time to cry, we have no time to make excuses,
so we just got to keep keep our head down,
work and just like next man up and just try
and stay together as a group and just go for
the goal. That's getting every single wing we can.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
You had a good time of it out there as
far as the box score, your status she goes you
managed to pick yourself up a double doubles, a few
offensive rebounds and one killer defensive rebound at the end,
So you're performing everywhere. Is that? How you like to
seat yourself up. Is this what you do?
Speaker 14 (33:46):
I mean, the boxer is not really the most important
thing for me. I'm just trying to go out there
and help the team win. I'm just trying to go
and make an impact. There is rebounding, scoring, passing, blocking
shots that did the last game. So I'm just trying
to like make winning plays and just get the win
at the end of the day. So I'll try and
do whatever I can.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
You're a four, do you stick really in the three
of the full spot? Where do you sit?
Speaker 14 (34:09):
I mean, I would do whatever. I mean, I'm playing
more of the small for it, but I feel like
I'm a very versatile player and I can I can
move around and just play whatever position the coach.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
Yeah, enjoying it over in New Zealand. It's quite a
journey for You've got what a couple of years before
the draft and the NBA CEA over here for two
years in the Next Star Program. What got you here?
What was the trigger to get you over here to
New Zealand?
Speaker 14 (34:35):
Oh well it was. It was a great success that
they have in lately, because I mean there's a lot
of examples. You know, Lassier in Lazier's draft the year
prior to that, and like, I mean, the next part
program has been a very successful program in the last
couple of years, and I just me and my family
just came to the to the conclusion that it was
gonna be it was gonna be great for me, and
(34:56):
it was gonna help me develop and just be the
best version of myself. And I feel like I feel
like it was a right choice.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
Carrying my paces guest out of the breakers. When you
look at Hampton and Rupier and the likes, they've worked
this league very well to move on up. Is it
the physicality of the league? Is it the fact that
maybe what do you put down to about the NBL
what attracts you to about this particular league.
Speaker 14 (35:22):
Well, obviously it's a very very competitive league, a very
talented league. It's a very high paced league also, so
I feel like that's something that emulates a little with
the NBA. It's obviously not the same, but it's similar
in some sort of way because it's a very fast
paid league. I mean, just trying to adjust myself, just
trying to be a better professional, learn how to be
(35:45):
a professional, and just learn about the game and just
improducing the day.
Speaker 8 (35:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Over in New Zealand, you're a young man, you're seventeen
years old. What's the cultural difference being like for you're
sitting foot here in Auckland having to readjust.
Speaker 14 (36:02):
Well, it's been, it's been. It's obviously different, friend. I
mean it's being in the shock and some and some things.
But I feel like I've adapted good. I mean, the
biggest things for me is the the weather, like the
stations of the year, Like right now it's like winter,
and over in Mexico it's the summer right now. Well, no,
(36:23):
it's it's transitioning right now, but like it was the
summer when I when I left and I came to
New Zealand, it was winter. So I feel like that's
the biggest thing that threw me off a little bit.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
What about things like the food, the traffic, the clear area,
the sea. I don't know where you're from Mexico, but
it's very different.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
Huh, Yeah it is.
Speaker 14 (36:42):
I mean, I mean I'm okay with the food.
Speaker 3 (36:44):
I like.
Speaker 10 (36:44):
I like the food.
Speaker 14 (36:46):
I really enjoy eating all all sorts of stuff. So
I feel like I like Musican food too.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Being from Mexico. Are you a Formula one fan. No,
not really, Okay, fine, oh I am. I was just
gonna talk to you about a periods, but I'll leave
that when a line I know him.
Speaker 14 (37:03):
I obviously know him, but I'm not a big fan.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
Of like, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Follow this tell us about prospects in the NBA and
where you sit right now in your program? You're protected
in the draft. What does all this mean? What are
your your prospects for the big step up in a
couple of years.
Speaker 14 (37:18):
Well, I mean, I'm just I mean, I obviously want
to be as as a draft draft pick as they can,
but I'm just I'm just focused on the present right now.
I'm just focusing on doing the little things that are
going to get me there, Just working every single day
and just trying to be the best version of myself,
which I know I can be. So yeah, I mean,
it's just I'm just focused on the present so I
can I can be better in the future.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Have you got a best relationship over here? Is there's
someone on the team that you've decided you guys get
on pretty well. You that kind of guy. That's important
that you have some relationships off the court with some
of the some of your teammates.
Speaker 14 (37:53):
Oh with everybody. Everybody's everybody's really cool. Everybody's really really
cool with each other. So I'm really I'm really glad
that I have a great group of teammates.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
And one last thing, you've got the best haircut and
the whole of the NBL never change, never change.
Speaker 14 (38:09):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Man, And on that we'll let you get on with business.
Kareem Low Peterz, thanks very much for your time. Play well,
play hard.
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It be now that man will be a top NBA peck.
Keep your eyes on him, although you can't do it
up close in person at the moment because the Breakers
are off overseas. They have played Melbourne away. They've got
the jack Jumpers away, then Taipans away, and then the
Hawks away, and then the Wildcats away. They're not back
(38:46):
in Auckland until the fifth of December, up against Melbourne United,
Yelch seven away from eight. Still no word on where
Donald Trump is, but we'll be right across that along
with Marcus Lash Cameron Norriy. He's launching a comeback. He's
been to the ASP Classic eight times. Here comes the
ninth for mister Norrie.
Speaker 6 (39:06):
Like I said, I really play well at the tournament.
I feel good there, and I think honestly, this year
I didn't play really many outdoor hard tournaments or complete
to them, and the schedule didn't allow for it to
happen for whatever reason with sickness or injury, so I
really was not able to gain any momentum throughout the
(39:28):
year and playing on my best surfaces. So I was
I saw aucklann as obviously I grew up there special
place for me and it's an outdoor hard tournament and
it's my best surface. So let's let's go back to
basics and play tournaments where I play well and feel
good at. And Auckland is definitely one of those ones.
(39:49):
You know, I made the final there twice so and
it's a great for me, great prep for Australian Open
and being in an outdoor hard tournament. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Cameron and Nari there faithful on the fact is entering
his ninth as B Classic and he covert at all
there it is great pray beheat of the als open
and something that well like he's in New Zelander by
South Africa through England. But a lot of players come
over here because they like the distraction. They like that
it's not the big bright lights. They like that they
can relax and walk around. That they like the energy
(40:19):
behind the ASB Classic and it's the direct results that
it's fantastic players in both the men's and the women's draw.
Just to clear up a few things for your hear
off of the text line, Darcy, is the rugby on
Saturday or Sunday? I thought it was Sunday, but you
keep saying Saturday. Can you please confirm the day? Ye,
it's for Friday night over there, which means it's a
(40:42):
Saturday morning over here. And they've whipped the day's prep office.
Pretty cunning stuff that so yes, it will be at
ten past nine on Saturday morning, live and free here
on News Talk.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Z B.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
Elliott Smith has the call. Just to clear that up.
More texts on nine two nine two that's z B
z B. The All Blacks do their best to give
them that game and it will be twenty points to
the All Blacks. I don't know. I really don't know.
I want nothing more than the All Blacks to run
(41:15):
a roughshod over the Irish and try and redress this
imbalance of recent times. I think when you look at
the nature of these two tensine you look at the
key players that are not there for New Zealand, do
you start getting a tag concerned as might freak you
out coming into that position? His ability or inability to
(41:36):
constantly throw in straight is that a problem A Damien McKenzie,
has he got enough to calm the farm when things
start getting sketchy. I'm still not convinced he does, but
he's the best we've got at the moment. Camon Roy
guards coming at nine straight away? Do you give him
that trusting hand him that role because he's may have
(41:59):
a better relationship with Damien McKenzie. There are so many
variables and that's probably while this test match is so mouthwatering,
imagine the crowd there fever pitch and the only positive
we're not a positive for the All Blacks.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Is seeing.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
If the Iris will whilt under the pressure of expectations.
Done it before, they could do it again. A lot
on Scott Robinson's men on Saturday morning, and we'll be
there ten past nine. Elliott Smith with the call on
Darcy Auto Grave and he does thanks very much for
producing the program. Thanks to Jeff Wilson, Cream Blow Pears
(42:46):
as well. Coming up the latest in sports news, and
we're up after that Marcus Lush and Donald Trump. This
is News Talks EB.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
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