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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldergrave
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There we go again. My name is Darcy Waldegrave, Venice,
the twenty first of January twenty twenty five and other
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As we talk sport, we argue sport, we debate sport,
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after seven coming up in the program. The sport that
we're all looking at currently, it's fair to say, is
the Australian Open in tennis. So much going on, so
much to look at, so much to peck through, so
much to be shocked about, outraged about. We're just downright
and joy and there's a fixture coming up tonight that's
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sports fans will be all over like rashes, even though
it'll probably take to it in the morning. I'm talking
of course, of Novak and al Karez. That game starts
ten past ten tonight. We're going to be previewing that
with Australian Open lead commentator Robbie Kernig. He joins us
at around about quarter two as we look at that
(01:41):
feature match to match that he'll be calling his predictions
over that match and the rise of the Australian Alex Demnor.
And he's got quite the competition up tomorrow up against
the world number one seed Center and still with tennis, well,
kick the program off shortly. David Mastered is with us
forming his heel under a professional tennis player and talking
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about watching Novak and his rise to the world's best
tennis player, the controversy that surrounds Novak all of the
time and nothing changes here. He's got it again at
the Aussie Open. But will that project him to the
all time greatest seat and does that really matter that
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sometimes he can be an unlikable turd because the numbers
are on his side, and when it comes to being
a goat me, that's all that counts. And we'll talk
with David about that shortly. We'll take your calls on
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for that. And we'll look at Novak even though his
career hasn't ended, even though there are people broadcasting on
the court in Australia that think he's all over over
because he isn't. Is he a great or is his
personality ruining it? Regardless of the results. I know where
I stand. I'll share that with you soon and then
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I always say that when I started playing with her,
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And yeah, that's certainly what I dream about the most.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
And let's sport today.
Speaker 6 (04:32):
The reason why I chose not to do that is
because a few days ago a famous sports journalist here
from Australia who works for a main broadcaster of Australia
and open a Channel nine, decided to mock a Serbian
fans and he meant insulting and offensive comments towards me.
Speaker 7 (04:52):
He was talking about Tony Jones and this live Cross
during nine News on Friday nights. The chances are quite
a surely Novak, he's overrated.
Speaker 8 (05:02):
No Vaksa has the no back kicking int oh.
Speaker 9 (05:07):
I'm glad they can't hear.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Me there, Well they could. Tony Jones there causing Rakas
with his disdain with his words over and not only
a Novak, but Serbian fans full stop. It's caused problems
and I have thoughts around that, and I'll share them
with you at some stage, I'm sure. But it is
more controversy for Novak Djokovic looking to attain a ridiculous
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spot in world tennis, the most Grand Slam winning us
that there's such a phrase tennis players of all time?
Should he get the job done? Personally, he should have
just brushed it off to one side and go along
with it. It wouldn't have been anything if you had
made such a big scene, Novak, But that's your right,
and I think controversy powers you and if anything, it's
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going to give you a huge breath, a huge wallop
toward beating el Karev later on tonight. Talking about that.
Now we're joined by forming his Zeland professional tennis player,
sometime commentator, coach as well as name is David Mustard Evening, David,
Welcome to the show.
Speaker 7 (06:12):
Well, are you just really amazed with this Australian Open
is the best one I've ever seen, more drama than anything,
Huge crowds, ninety five thousand people a day, day and night,
sessions going through early on in the tournament.
Speaker 10 (06:25):
You just name it.
Speaker 7 (06:26):
Stuff's happening and it's great.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
It's fascinating to watch. Although when players like mon Fees
have to walk away because a better elderly that's disappointing.
But we're not really interested in that for this conversation anyway.
We're interested in the controversial character that arguably is the
greatest player to ever pick up a racket, and if
he wins this Open, well he'll be number one at
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the top. But people just know they can't embrace him.
What is it with Novak Djokovic. It's interesting.
Speaker 7 (06:55):
I saw him in his early days courtside at the
Australian Open one time, playing Fata I think, and I
wasn't very impressed with his attitude, with his parents rowing
him up and him howing up and he just looked
like an upstart like a lot of the players. But
he just annoyed me. But then slowly but surely he started.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Growing on me.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
But every now and again.
Speaker 7 (07:16):
The whole thing about him is he loves he seems
to love controversy.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
He loves the friction, but it actually it makes him better.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
And that's a dangerous thing, you know, coming in for
olcaaz in this matchup that's coming out tonight, when there's
nothing worse than a Djokovic that's fired up, had controversy
around him about all this stuff, and I think a
tough thing for him, a bit of a chip he
probably has, is that he's undeniably the goat on stats,
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on wins and Grand Slams, twenty four and ten Australian
Opens and what have you. But it's always been Nadal
and Federer who have had the more response to the
people they like the more that he has more affinity
with them, Djokovic has always not quite had that same
feel about it, and you've got to say, well, has
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he changed the game. He's made it a lot better,
of course with the match ups, but feder and Nadal
have just been liked more with the public. It's just
the way it's been.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
He's a lightning rod for controversy, though isn't he. He
tends to make decisions or find himself on broad and
situations that just increased that friction between himself and everybody else.
Now that's not deliberate. Some people are just liked this,
aren't they, or they suggest some of his moves he made.
I don't know if he did it for the controversy,
but he's stuck to his guns. Yeah, yeah, he did.
Speaker 10 (08:41):
That, you know.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
I mean, you know, you go back to the COVID
thing and he had his response to that and what
he wanted to do. And he's always been very strong
and opinionated on what he believes in and he holds
that inspite of anything, you know, with all that controversy
coming about with the gentleman Tony Jones from Channel nine
saying stuff, you know, mock the Serbian fans and no,
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that's has been all sort stuff and kicking out. I mean,
that's actually ridiculous. He even said that, but he said
he was doing tongue in cheek and joking. Well, that
didn't sit well with Jokovic and he made a call
and said he wouldn't do the interviews on court, walked
away from courier on court at the open said, no,
I want to apologies. I'm not prepared to do any
more press stuff, even though we probably get fine for it.
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He stuck to it and in many ways he was right,
but he tends to always go a bit further than
other people would go. So but in the end he's
been apologized to, he's accepted that, he's moved on. I mean,
some ways some people have an affinity to say he
shouldn't have had to be of that. So Djokovic is
coming into this as a four to three matchup and
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wins the last time they played, I think it was
at Wimbledon w akaras one.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
But that's a different.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Surface, of course, and this is Jocovic's favorite event where
he's had the most success at. Honestly, you know, Exrodics
said on one of his podcasts, he said this, he's
just looking forward to wants to sit down and watch
this match. You'll be enthralled tonight. He just doesn't know
where which way that's gonna go. Djokovic has got the ability,
al Karaz has got the ability. Alcarez has the younger
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legs twenty two. But Djokovic is incredible with his training patents.
He's thirty seven. Honestly, it could.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Go either way.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
I in my heart, I'd like Alcarez to win that,
to be honest, But then again, maybe you prefer the
great Djokovic.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
People would say, David Master, that his behavior is precious.
He sat at the top of the world for so long.
Shouldn't you just let things like a commentator, regardless words
a little wrong, just drift past and not make so
much of an issue. Because without him doing that, the
issue wouldn't have been so big, would it. He could
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have gone behind the scenes. And I'm thine to add
again give me an apology, But there's something about him
that made it blow up. I don't know. Well, as
you said, maybe that works for him. He wants that
and that will put him in a better state of
mind to take on al KaAZ and the rest of
the time.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
He seems to like a cause. He's stubborn, and but
he's always been like that. I would have thought it
would just take a lot of energy having to even
do this cause and say on a problems and all that.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Why didn't he let it go?
Speaker 7 (11:15):
I actually kind of agree with you, Why take all
their energy about this? But then again, that doesn't seem
to make him tie. That seems to fire him up.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
What do you say?
Speaker 7 (11:26):
I wonder what Andy Murray thinks of all this. I
wonder if he's in the same court as Djokovic. I
don't know, but look, it's really interesting this matchup coming
up because also they I didn't realize this until little
bit more research. You know, they have the analytics courtside though,
so the coaches can see it all the stats on
the matches coming through all the time, so they can
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look at the first set.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
You know, if Jokovic loses.
Speaker 7 (11:52):
That, he goes wh did he serve to most of
the time our careers, where's he returning to him? They
can see all the stats and they can all of
a sudden make adjustments to certain tactical situations.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
So it's quite amazing.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
How much will that play to be and how much
do they look at those stats?
Speaker 2 (12:10):
It's not tennis, guy, I need to do on the
City of Pants, surely. Maybe that's another argument for another day. Hey,
just on on tonight, and we know the crowd favorite
will be Alkareth. He's the new young gun, the new hope.
And you know the Aussie's relationship with Novak probably not
great a lot of complaints around the Australian crowd and
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their desire to boo and to bring that kind of
energy from from the seats cheap seats, expensive seats where
other How much is that going to get into the
heads of both players Alcarez and Djokovic when this Assie
crowd start going, because they will, won't they, David? Who
are they gonna?
Speaker 4 (12:50):
Who are they going to go for?
Speaker 7 (12:51):
It's interesting are they going to It'll be cool to
see that earlier on to see what of them?
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Are they happy with Djokovic?
Speaker 7 (12:58):
Do they want them to keep going the older fella against.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
The young buck?
Speaker 7 (13:02):
Like maybe I shouldn't put it like that, but Olcarez
has been very passive, whereas Jocovic is fired up. Do
they like Jagres because they see the changing of the
guard and he's actually got quite a bit on this
particular torment because they always keep talking.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I wonder how much he believes about him getting.
Speaker 7 (13:22):
That, you know that winning would have won all the slams,
you know, at his age, all that sort of stuff.
So the dynamics on how the crowd feel will be
quite interesting and I think it will actually be quite
beneficial to whoever, they are a little bit more, have
a bit more favoritism.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
To be honest, well, I'm going to enjoy it regardless
of what happens. He'll be a late whole night. I
don't see this being done in straight sets. Let's hoping
it doesn't because I want all the entertainment I can
clap my eyes on regardless of the time and night.
It is all morning David must have as always, thanks
for your time, your expertise, in your opinion. You enjoy
the rest of this fantastic tournament.
Speaker 7 (13:59):
I will thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Have a good night.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Forget the ref's call.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
You make a call.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Sports to on your home of.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Sports Who Talk After seven David Master there with his
comments on Novak Djokovic and the question which I think
generally surrounds Novak like the controversy does how much he
courts it or causes it? Well, that's another case for discussion,
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but he does seem to attract it. And the question
is would he go down as a great or is
his personality just wrecking it for everybody because he is
not seen, He's not revered in the same way that
other players are that have got similar records. I say similar,
because there's a very good chance at the end of
this particular tournament or the end of this year, he'll
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be all alone with Grand Slam tournament victories. But that
is quite extraordinary, It is quite something else. But there
will always be well, maybe I'm wrong, he'd let me know.
For him, an asterisk around him because of who he is,
because he's not the most likable guy, because as David
Mustard points out, he's a strong individual. He makes his decisions,
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he won't take a backward step. He's an unforgiven kind
of character when it comes to his opinion. Does that
overshadow him, other overshadow his achievements when it looks to
history to say the guy's the greatest of all time,
because his record screams that regardless of the type of
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human he is. Now there'll be a lot of people
out there who say nothing wrong with he does. He's forthright,
he's steadfast than his views, says what he thinks, and
good on him. And I think you'll find that with
some great sportspeople. That's part and parcel of why they've
achieved what they've achieved, because they are so hard nosed,
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they are so dedicated, they are so focused on one thing.
The rest of it doesn't matter. It's fluff, its noise,
as they say. So my question to you is that
will Novak go down as a great orders of personality
ruin it? I think you'll go down as a great
based purely on the numbers, regardless of what kind of
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objectionable human he can be to some people. The numbers
are there, and it won't stop me rooting for the
guy tonight. I want to see him pick up twenty five.
I want to see that happen. Give us your thoughts.
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty lines are open.
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There are only a few athletes like Novaka around that
have achieved the greatness that he has achieved. But right
the way through they have carried this attitude or carried
this fog around them. That doesn't make them loved, but
they've got the record. You want a couple of examples,
I tell you right now, Michael Schumacher, Lebron James Floyd Mayweather.
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There are three plenty others who end up being villains,
but that's of actions they took, like being involved in
a dogfighting ringle, shooting somebody, or you know what I mean.
But those guys. Did they just gather it? What do
you go down as a great? Is his personality problematic? Well,
plenty of texts on this, but I want to hear
your voice. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. She
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Speaker 1 (17:51):
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Speaker 2 (18:02):
It be a lot of interesting texts. I'd like to
hear your voice. It's been a long time since I've
heard some of the listeners calls through. I'd love to
hear from you. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Whether
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he goes down as a great or as personality ruins it,
he'd probably go down as a great with an objectionable personality.
Man that's maybe too much for some people. Maybe some
of his fans might get upset by people saying that.
But he is a divisive character. Why is he so polarizing?
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Why do you think he's so polarizing. It seems that
there is a swirl or a swish of controversy somewhere,
or something unpopular say or think he'll do it. It
comes down to his filtering system. One don't think he's
got one. And that is not to be critical of somebody.
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There's a lot of people out there. There are a
lot of people out there who don't have filtering systems.
I find them a joy to deal with because you
know exactly what they think. Unfortunate when they hate you,
it comes out. But I would like your thoughts around
that because you look at some of the other names
I read out again, not players who courted controversy because
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it's something they did later on their career, like being Johnson,
the drug pag and so on and so forth. But
the people that got to the top of their trade,
and they were just prickly characters, and he's one of them.
The tales of tight Cobb are quite something else. Patrick,
How are you?
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I'm good? How are you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I'm very happy to be back at work.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
I just want to know what bad examples they you're
talking about of Nobado.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
The big one stands out was the COVID situation where
he flatly refused, and I think, man, when he got
suggested by that media guy they should throw him out,
that probably probably cut through. I think it's a filterless
approach to things. He says exactly what he thinks, he
makes no bones about it, and he doesn't endear himself
to the crowds like your raffin adeel or your federals
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like in this situation, Patrickalle.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Those guys are a bit bloody milky. Those guys are
a bit vanilla.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, and I think a lot of people will.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
He didn't want the vacs. He didn't get the vacs,
but he never preached any anti vax sentiment.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I think by his actions alone, he did, didn't he
But I mean it's a story for a.
Speaker 8 (20:41):
Few years ago. He didn't want to that. He was
right about that, though, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
You just carry on thinking that, Patrick, that's fine. I
think the thing about the thing about what happened today
is that if he had well, no, if he didn't
have said anything and just got on with it and
not been so gossom as skinned. It wouldn't be an issue,
but he did. He chose to do that. He didn't
have to. He's Novak Djokovic, who cares what some broadcast that,
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like myself would say doesn't matter. But he had to
say something, and again it stirred things up.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Maybe he'd deserved a bit more respect than that broadcast
it gave him.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
But I think that again, when you look at a situation,
I'm not concerned by people who don't like or say
insulting things to me if I don't care for them
or they mean nothing. So if you choose to take
on board someone's insults, would you take advice to them? No,
you wouldn't, So don't take the insults from them. Just
walk on by. This is my attitude.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
Anyway, it could have walked on by, but he took
offense to the whole situation, which he was Probably.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You can't, I think, Patrick, and I've got another call
coming through another couple. Actually, thanks thanks for your time.
That he's using this as a springboard, and a lot
of athletes do that. They they use negative air and
negative energy to promote them to another level and good
on them, you know, David, how are you? Yeah?
Speaker 9 (22:08):
God, thank you? Yeah. I'm just thinking I don't like him,
but last week I put twenty bucks on him, seven
dollars to win it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
If you like a guy or not doesn't matter.
Speaker 9 (22:24):
It doesn't matter, not when it comes to a bit.
But the thing is that I think right sportsmanship and
right the greatest sportsman and means tennis I even think
was beyond board. And then Roger Federer and and then
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the woman you probably had my teen and their editorial
and Evan. I think they were tremendous sports people, you know,
they they they sort of followed the etiquette of sportsmanship,
where I don't get that from I'm not saying he's not,
but I just don't get that from Knockaholm from.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Job of it.
Speaker 9 (23:06):
But I mean, it's Australian ivel and it's in the quarters.
What more do you need to get yourself bloody fired up?
Speaker 8 (23:13):
Because hey, this is the.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Theory of mine. David. I don't know, I haven't climbed
the no vack's head and go on, but some people
feed off that right and plainly it triggered him, and
so he said something but I just thought you made
more of it than next thay it was it was
some broadcaster. I mean, who cares what he thinks or sees.
Speaker 9 (23:31):
It doesn't matter anyway, Thanks.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
David, thanks for calling through. And it's going out. Oh mate, Derek, mate.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (23:42):
Yeah, welcome back? Uh yeah, family at good time of
Christmas and yours look, yeah, thank you very much. You know,
we had a great time there. We all got together
and have great time. Yeah, we watched the cricket and
we watched from the India Australia games and now we're
all watching this and I see zero just trying to.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Paul.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
This has been a good match. I felt I really
enjoyed this, and I just thought he'd give you a
call because it always makes me laugh when I hear
a sports person he's got a whole heap of metals
and people are not pointing to you directly. But it's
funny as certain people who might not follow the sport
might not follow a lot of the games, but just
have a quick glance down on what the guys won,
and Djokovic has won a lot of matches and a
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lot of big titles and traightaway it's easy to same way,
he's the greatest of all time.
Speaker 6 (24:28):
He's the guy.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
He's the greatest of all time, you know. And for
some reason, I don't know why, Maybe it's the anti
Manchester United voice inside my head which constantly goes off
twenty four to seven. But you have a look at
you google up someone like Gary Neville, the famous or
infamous Manchester United at fullback, and if you look at everything,
he's one of the game. You would think this is
going to be the greatest player in the history of
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Premier League football. I mean, his trophies, it's just it's
just mind blowing how many trophies he's won. When you
have a look at someone like a Matt Leticia or
Bobby Flamino or yeah, Matt Latusia. Yeah, he was an
incredibly talented player. He wanted to stay at Southampton, he
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loved the club, he loved the area. He was gonna
he was never gonna move. And you look at the
talent he had and I think the only one sixteen
England Caps compared to Nevills ninety seven or whatever it was.
You always think Nevles is the greatest player. Until you
talk to a Manchester You're not the supporter of any note,
and I'll say, God, he was terribly He was just
the last cab off the rank. He was at right back.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
And you know, it's a position that if you look
at numbers, though numbers, numbers do mean something. A lot
of sports people are collectors of numbers. The stats are
at all about the stats for them. So it's simple
enough to look back and go, well, you did all
of this. I mean, you look at Floyd Mayweather, unbeaten
in fifty fights, but hardly the nicest person in the world,
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didn't take the right fights, didn't really present himself right
to the media. Will people look back and go, the
guy was a bit of a deck, or he was
fifty to zero and what a fighter.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
I saw an article recently where a bunch of they
do in the magazine all the time, they get they
get like twenty five writers and they put them together
and they put the list of the greatest wealth of
eights of all time and Fleuwweather wasn't even listed in
that well a way list. Yeah, and there was, there was,
and mainly because he didn't fight the best and the
list was the list. I'm not going to go through
the list. The list was Sugaree, Robinson, everyone down. It
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was just an incredible list of fighters in the greatest
division of all the time. He just didn't fight the best.
As far as Novak goes, I think that he came
in along at a time and look a lot of
things in sport, a lot of victories in sport. It
comes down to timing.
Speaker 10 (26:38):
Now.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
He came along at a time when Roger Federer and
rafhloadwe two beloved figures on the game. Well probably that
they're probably their careers had plateaued out. They weren't on
the rise, and early on they were beating them. You
only have to look at Rod Labor when he won
the Grand Slam All four in the calendar year in
nineteen sixty two. He turned professional after that, Darcy and
he started losing a lot of matches to what at
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that time were great professional players Lou Hoad and Ken
Rosewill and all those guys. By the time he came
back in the open at nineteen sixty nine, he was
now a hard and professional. He was now up against
some great players, but they weren't professionals. But he was
then beaten the likes of punch At Gonzales and these
sorts of guys. And in ninety sixty nine he won
the Grand Slam, but telling the year Grand Slam again,
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the only man to do it twice. Now, that was
the last time he won, because after that everyone caught
up to him because he was in the thirties and
in those days for a spourts person getting over the
age of thirty was getting on of it. So I
think at the end of the day, yes, Novak will
go down as one of the greats. Yes, because of
what he's won and the way he's gone about it.
I think also this is another thing I've always thought
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about in tennis that a lot of people didn't talk about.
I watched the career of Beyond Borg and I watched
it pretty closely and Novak Djokovic, and both of them
do have something similar. Both men, I believe, have set
new standards in physical conditioning. Very rarely did you ever
see those two guys sweat. Their flexibility was incredible, the
way they handle themselves on court. Obviously, Borg retired at
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twenty six after winning virtually everything in the game, eleven
Grand Slams. I think it was but at the end
of the day, Novak's gone on and in modern medicine
these days, and modern supplements and modern training, people can
go on a lot more. But I just feel that
those two guys have set in their era. If you
look at their both their eras, and it's a good
it's a good crossover because one's from one era at
once from another the modern era, and both men set
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high standards and conditioning. Obviously Buorg with his low pulse,
and I have no doubt that Djokovic has also got
the low pulse. And another thing that one thing that
I don't like about Djocovic I was talking to a
friend of mine the other night about is the amount
of time outs he takes and the way indulgence gamesmanship
in the thirty six years ago.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
We've got some calls coming up online. I love to
speak to you, but we've got we've got to move on, Derek,
thanks very much for your time. As always, so much information,
we just haven't got enough time. Zverev leading Paul at
seven six seven six six two. Paul's got the third set.
A Vera's leading five to one start the third set
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breakpoint he Scott Now's the News Talk's airb said it
to come in the program more of you eight hundred
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Australian Open lead commentator, who's got the call tonight as
that man Novak Djokovic takes on Carlos his News Talk's
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Speaker 11 (29:27):
Is there somebody look at hell.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Swell one Ratleph and Venus in the next at doubles. Wow,
they're tied up there on a tie breaker in the
first set against Mohammad and Maltini for two up? Is
that pairing over Ratliffe and Venus? This News Talk's airb
taking calls on Novak Djokovic? Why are the controversy get
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a emily good evening?
Speaker 11 (30:01):
I've never spoken to you before. It's the first time
for every.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Year, which means I've not spoken to you before either.
Speaker 11 (30:07):
Hi, how are you scientic?
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Now?
Speaker 11 (30:11):
I'm a little disappointed with Australia because their persecution of
Novak Dokovich is well documented.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
I don't think you say blame a whole nation, but
you might want to be slightly.
Speaker 11 (30:25):
I don't mean to generalize, but some individuals they made
him sleep on a floor in an interview room and
then they threw him into a detention center. This is
in twenty twenty two, and then his Serbian fans of
Pepper sprayed, and then just recently that Australian journalists is
at Tony Jones.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
And he said something, but he didn't have to react
to it because, as I said previously, Emily, if someone
who you wouldn't seek advice from, you wouldn't take an
insult from either, because you don't hold them in any
with any weight at all. Tony, Yeah, you don't, so
why would you bother? I think he overreacted, but that's
the way he operates.
Speaker 7 (31:09):
Oh.
Speaker 11 (31:09):
I think after he's been treated, he's probably a bit
gun try and it's really bad role modeling by those
Australian journalists. Our New Zealand journalist wouldn't act like that, wouldn't,
wouldn't I wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I think they let me anywhere near him. But yeah,
he chooses and things come to him, like the situation
with the detention sender, with the jab situation. He seems
to be in the middle of it. But you cannot
deny what he's done as far as his tennis is concerned,
and that is how he should be judged. Ill start
telling his stories about Ty Cobb and this guy's got issues.
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It's got to a couple of texts. Now, Novak hasn't
caused any controversy that up at Tony Jones's crass comments
caused the controversy. He wouldn't have said that about any
other player. That's from Steve Hi Darcy. It was the
kick him out comment that really got to Novak being
kicked out of Australia during the COVID pandemic. I can
see who he got upset. Thank you, Ben fed As
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the greatest tennis player of all time. He always helped
the ball creer, it manners for the umpires and the crowd,
and that's what makes a great or a goat. Alternatively,
Novak is a prat for refusing the vaccine, therefore putting
everyone else at risk and genuinely being a deck hiad
he certainly had of a player. I can't understand why
he isn't the favorite to win this tournament. Maybe because
he's getting a little on the aged side. I don't know.
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I think what's happened recently I'll really spur him into
something great. Darcy, Novak's are sick. I can remember years
ago and he took the mickey out of the female
tennis players by imitating them on the court. He can
give it, but he can't take it. Maybe he loses
to Carlos. A lot of gray there from Glinda and
this Texas Novak has every right to feel a bit sensitive.
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He was previously kicked out of the country, preventing him
from defending his title. Then he came back and had
a low rent TV presents her take the piss out
of him and his cantrman. I'm not surprised Australian tennis
has fairal athletes like Bernard tom Chans and cars. That
TV presenter is anything to go for. So you're coming
back of type the same thing, isn't it. This is
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Newstalk ZB. So many more texts. I can't read them
out much. Rather you called through remember that for tomorrow
our eight hundred eighty ten eighty. I'll leave you with
this last quick quote. This is from Ty Cobb, the
baseballer from back in the day. In legend, I am sadistic, slashing,
swashbackling despot who waved a war in the guise of sport.
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Yeah he was something else. This is news Talk's eb
Coming up next, we're talking with Robbie Kernig as we
preview the big fixture tonight when Novak Djokovic takes on
someone who will probably roll them in Carlos al Kharez,
but the attitude Novak's got, it's gonna be five sets.
Kids on the bed. Eleven minutes eight Sports Talker US
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Talk ZB. We carry on now with a Tennis Australian
Open lead commentator Robbie Keerney joins us. Now he's the
voice you'll hear tonight when Djokovic and Alka al Karez
take court. Great to have you on again, Robbie. Welcome mate,
Hello guys, always good to be on your show. This
matchup coming up at ten past ten tonight, New Zealand time.
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It's huge. It's all about we talk about the changing
of the guard all the time. I bet here it
is right. This is going to be massive, this matchup
between al KaAZ or alkaaz or whatever you want to
call him and Novak Djokovic.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Yeah, it should be.
Speaker 10 (34:45):
I think if you have a look at historically some
of the matches they've played, they've always been blockbusters.
Speaker 4 (34:50):
I just think of the Olympics last year.
Speaker 10 (34:52):
Novak was so clutched, and Novic didn't want a tour
title last year, but he's always said that his big
goal is to win the Olympics, and he finally got
his hands on that Olympic singles gold medal, and in
that match was so keysy. He saved all eight break
points that he faced, and it's going to have to
be more of the same. In fact, the last time
they played on a hard court outdoor, so condition is
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similar to this.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
It was probably the best three set match that I
have ever seen on a hard court.
Speaker 10 (35:20):
It went a distance in Cincinnati back in twenty twenty three,
and Novak had to save match points there in order
to beat the youngster. But it was an absolute epic,
I want to say a little over three hours, and
both guys were dead on their feet.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Our Charez was devastated after the loss.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
We're going to go five seats this time around. I'm
presuming that the old Fela can handle that kind of
punishment on his legs.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
I hope so. I hope, so for me, I hope,
so for the crowd. I hope it goes deep, and
I hope it's decided by a.
Speaker 10 (35:48):
Fifth set match tile break af I got my way,
But I must say I've done some of Novak's earlier
rounds and he certainly the ball striking hasn't been as
sharp as what I saw in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
It's not as sharp as.
Speaker 10 (36:01):
When they played in twenty twenty three, So I think
in my opinion, even though when you look at the
fact that Novak's one and three of the last four,
I think our Kearez is probably playing the better tennis,
and I think he's going to be hugely motivated. But
if anybody can step up on the biggest of stages,
it is Djokovic. So I'm fascinated to see how the
first set unfolds.
Speaker 12 (36:21):
What I've noticed with Novak is he's been a little
tentative in his opening couple of games, and it's taken
him a while to get into his rhythm, and I
don't think he's going to be allowed that luxury today.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
But saying that, I always remember seeing this when he
played an adult, and he knew that he couldn't do
that against the dolls, so.
Speaker 10 (36:38):
He would come out firing, and it's almost like a
blessing in disguise, because he knows there's only one style
of tennis.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
That's going to work, and that makes the decision making
so easy for him.
Speaker 2 (36:49):
The best chance for our corowath to actually get over
top of Novak. Where would that be besides having the younger,
fitter legs. Where else has he got an eighth up
his sleeve.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
I think his attacking prowess is unbelievable.
Speaker 10 (37:03):
I would like to see him and I think it
was the old days when we were it was Chip
in charge, but now the saying is crush and rush
on second serves and intimidate the second serve of Novak.
I think he can get the odd double on a
big point off of it, or at the very least.
I've seen Novak throwing and a couple of very short
second serves that are so attackable, and Carlos does do
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that well. I remember when he won the US Open.
That was something he was doing with great regularity. He
has deviated away from that, so I would like to
see him attacking novak second serve. And I think in
the backhand cross court exchanges, I don't think the depth
has been particularly good from Nervak this week. We used
to see him gluing that thing without a foot of
the baseline it hasn't been the case so far, so
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I do think that the backhand of Novak could be
a little susceptible.
Speaker 2 (37:53):
More blokes and action tomorrow. And this is a good
and well it is for the Aussie crowds hope that
can behave themselves from me Kunich when Youick Senator takes
on Alex Seminor, this has got a lot on it
is it one.
Speaker 10 (38:06):
V eight, It is and nine zero in the head
to hit, I believe, But Sinner is obviously not one
hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
So we only came to realize after the match.
Speaker 10 (38:17):
We saw him having issues during the match, but that
he had I think gastric problems the night before. He
didn't warm up, he was vomiting, and he was also
close to getting beaten by Holga Runer. That epic breakpoint
that he saved in the third game of the third set,
that was the tipping point. So it's going to be
fascinating as to how Holga holds up Holga Yannick holds up.
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I think Venals playing the best tennis of his career,
and if ever Sinner was right for the picking to
beat him for the first time, I think the setup
is right now playing at home in his home major,
playing the best tennis of his career.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
He's fresh.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
Cinner's not so fresh, And of course, sir Robbie, we
can't forget the women's draw as well. Underway nine o'clock
tonight to New Zealand. Time you've got sable Anca number
one seed taking on Pavla Tokovia. This again has got
a lot of a lot of fun around that i'd
expect it.
Speaker 10 (39:10):
Is, and I think this match takes on even more
significance knowing that Coco Golf has lost, Paula Badosa has
come through in that section.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Of the draw.
Speaker 10 (39:18):
So I think both Pablo Tchenkova and Zabelenka are going
to be thinking, you know, that they'd rather take on
Vadosa than Coco Peplachenkova was, you know, she was a
prodigious junior.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
I think was twenty twenty one.
Speaker 10 (39:31):
She made the finals of the French Open and came
close to winning the only major of her career.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
So she is dangerous, she's fearless.
Speaker 10 (39:39):
But there is no doubt that zabel Anka is the
player to be the defending champion.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
She's been there, she's done it. Now on the biggest
of stages. So the belief is there.
Speaker 10 (39:48):
I think it would take a heck of an effort
from Pabla Tchhenkova to get the better of the top seed.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
As long as neither of them look beyond this next match,
because there's nothing but trouble if you do that. One
last thing, Robert Kernigle, was a pleasure to have you
on the program. Novek Djokovic again surrounded in controversy. Here's
a lightning rod. He can't help himself. How much of
that is he going to take and put down up
against El Karez? Is this going to be a positive
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for him what he's dealing with right now? It seems
to be part of his routine, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
Well, I'll I'll answer that question in two ways.
Speaker 10 (40:25):
Michael Jordan, if you ever watched the Last Dance, he
always looked for things to fire him up in the
biggest of games, and that was always the theme for
MJ who was one of the best basketball players.
Speaker 4 (40:34):
The sports I ever seen.
Speaker 10 (40:36):
And perhaps just a little bit of fire as well
in the Billy is not going to do him any harm.
Speaker 9 (40:40):
But I'll tell you what.
Speaker 10 (40:41):
The general consensus is that Novak is bang on that
Tony Jones was overstepped the mark there.
Speaker 4 (40:49):
You know, I understand and you'll be aware of this
as well. Things happen off.
Speaker 10 (40:53):
Air, a microphone that has been left on live, when
you when you think you're off air and you said
something I've misspoken on air, when I think I've put
off my on.
Speaker 4 (41:02):
Air button and it has gone to air. Those things
I think people are more forgivable of. But when you
say stuff like that and you know you live, I
can tell you.
Speaker 10 (41:13):
The general consensus is that there's not a lot of
sympathy for Tony Jones and what he said, not only
about Novak, but I think especially so about the Serbian
fans because they've been great fans over the years. They've
created great theater on that center card. So I think
Novak's actually got a lot more support than people might think.
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