January 30, 2025 • 40 mins
D’Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap today's sporting news. Highlights for tonight include:
Steve Price - Former Warriors Captain
Phil Waugh - CEO of Rugby Australia
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldergrave
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Seven after seven, good evening. This is sports Talk on
News Talk CB. My name's Darcy Waldegrave. On a Thursday evening,
thirteth of January twenty twenty five. This is Sports Talk
talking sport now through until eight, talking sport with a
couple of reasonably heavy hitters. Off, I don't mind saying
so myself. Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia, Phil war
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joins us later in the program. The Rugby World Cup
host cities have been announced. Sydney has everything. They've thrown
a couple of some other territories as well. That's not
entirely true, but Sydney, do you have a line share
of these events? The course Stadium which includes the final,
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both semifinals, the playoff for third and fourth quarterfinals. They've
got everything. But hey, we'll talk to Phil Wore about
that now that we know who the cities are and
what Melbourne did to get themselves back into favor again.
Straight up, though, we're going to talk with the Steve
Price format Warriors captain. Makes sense to talk with Steve
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being a Warriors captain from Australia about what it takes
to be the Warriors captain, what's important, what are the
big considerations, what he did, what he should have done,
and more importantly, who does he actually like for the role.
We'll talk to Steve Price about that shortly after that
(02:02):
your chance, who do the wise? Name is their new captain?
Open Slava, simple question, give me a name and a
reason why. That's what we're going to do. We're going
to play captain selection games today on Sports Talk, but
before that, let's do this today and in sport today,
(02:22):
Dame Sophie Pasco, one of New Zealand's premier athletes, is
called time on getting up before the birds for a splash.
The heavily decorated swimmer, owner of eleven Paralympic golds on
a mantlepiece heaving with tin, has played tribute to the
sport that has dominated her life.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Swimming has given me everything, a purpose, a passion, a platform,
lifelong friendships. It has shaped me in ways I never
imagined and I will forever cherish the opportunities, lessons and
experiences it has given me.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Across the paddock, from goat to goat. Another athlete touched
with King George, the sixth weapon has done the opposite.
Dame Lisa Carrington didn't entertain the thought of retirement. She's
doubling down for more, committing to the Olympics in LA
for what will be her fifth Olympic crusade Cano. You're
raising ends at high performance, bro Nathan Loose. She's back,
(03:16):
but there are no guarantees except she will be throwing
the kitchen sink at training and quite possibly the dumb
waiter as well.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
If she decides she's doing something, she'll do it of
her capability and her commitment will be probably unmarched again.
But at the same time, there are no certainties with things,
so she's taking it a step by step approach like
she always does.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And still with royally sealed female athletes. Dame Lydia Coe
is priming herself the start of a new season of
the LPGA. The Olympic gold medalist and three times Major
winner aka Let's throw on silver and bronze Olympic medalists
as well, is intent on riding the success wave even
if it dumps from the shallows from time to time.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I have the belief that even if I don't play well,
for a span of a few weeks. I don't need
to get down on myself because I know what direction
I'm going and I just believe that I can overcome.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
My lull Dame Dame Dame. And that's scores today. Minutes
up to seven. Stephen Price, we go now, former Warriors captain,
to talk about exactly that. Who was going to take
over Pahu Harris? Who's going to be the next skipper
of the Wars? Steven Price, good evening, mate. I'm very
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very well. I don't have a decision around who I
anoint as the captain for the Wars, and that's something
that's well, it's well on its way. And if anyone
knows a bit about captaining the Warriors, it's you. How
many times ninety plus.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah, it's a huge honor, mate. Obviously, I really enjoyed
my time at the club and particularly being one of
the leaders. Just because you've got to see beside, your
name doesn't mean you the only one had obviously Reuben
and Stacey and so many other guys in the team
that played huge role in the leadership of the group.
And that's where the boys are going to be at currently.
(05:11):
You know, like even though there's going to be someone
with one or two. I'm not sure what the coach
is going to do, but if you know there's a guy,
you pretty much toss the coin and you speak to
the referee, you know. But there's so many more players
are part of the group that are going to play well.
Everyone plays a leadership role in some way. That's what
you want anyway. But I think probably stand out would
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be probably James. You know, obviously the club has brought
him for everything that he brings. I believe that he's
doing what he does best and that's leading with his actions.
Probably still talking to the boys, you know, obviously coming
to the new club and really trying to lift those
standards and that's what he's been brought over to the Warriors.
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And he's the current Kiwi captain as well, which you
know is he's doing such a great job there. So
whether he's the guy with the seis his name, he's
still going to do what he does. Mitch Barnett I thinks,
really growing as a player and his presence on the field,
and then there's so many other guys who could probably
put their hand up as well. You know, even when
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you start to consider front Rawy. Sorry, he's not going
to be on the field the whole time. But that's
where you rely on the whole group to play a
role and you really want to encourage every individual or
to be a leader in their own way. So I think, yeah,
exciting times for the Warriors. And I don't think they've
only got one or two options. I think they've got
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many options they could choose for all different sorts of reasons.
But everyone's still going to do the same thing they're
going to do and play the same role they're going
to play anyway, whether they've got the captain next to
their name or not.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Sit in culture, how important is that in your mind
from a captain? This is not on field culture. This
is what happens in the training pad of the stuff
we don't see. Where does that's it?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I think it's probably the most integral part of success
and consistency. Actually listening to Ivan's book at the moment,
and you know, that's a fair reason why the Panthers
have been in for or one four out of the
last five Grand Finals. He's a massive advocate of culture
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and connection and that's why guys who leads the Panthers
like Stephen Crichton, and you know Andrew Webster as a coach.
I'm sure by James going to the club that's going
to be very very important for him, but also for
Andrew to be embedding that. And I think they've been
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doing a fantastic job. And you don't want to be Penans,
you want to be your own identity, and I think
the Warriors are starting to find what that identity is
and I think someone like James coming in is really
going to be able to you know, I suppose spur
that on even more, both on and off.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The field, onto it between the captain and the team.
Even though you say it very much as a group
effort and we know that, but the importance of understanding
what the coach wants to sit down and what he needs.
It's not one way traffic because it's very much a
team effort.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Yeah it is, mate, And I think you know, you
don't always have the coach say this is what I want, mate,
because usually the guy that they pick is living and
breathing and doing that. And that's probably why James would
be a great example, is that you hear and you
see him on the training paddock, and then you hear
and you see him on the footy field as well,
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and there's really no difference between either. He's very consistent,
you know what you're going to get every single game.
He doesn't say a lot, but when he does say something,
guys stop and listen. Very similar assignment Manory. You know,
he's an action man rather than a wordsman, but if
he does want to say something, he will say it
and everyone listens. So he's very inspiration on how he
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goes about his stuff and that's why he's a massive
signing to the club. You know, I just can't think
of any better signing that the Warriors could have had
other than James. And if you gave him that actual title,
I think it'd be hugely if be very proud and
very excited to play that extra responsibility. But also it
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wouldn't change him about how he goes about his stuff
because that's what he does and obviously that's why he's
so valuable.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You've got to be respected by your teammates. Steve Price
a friend to a degree, but is there a slight
separation between being the captain the man who wears it
all and carries it on his shoulder, which means you
set yourself slightly apart.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
I think that's definitely up to the individual and probably
your group. I probably was a little bit different to
others anyway. And as long as you've been yourself, mate,
I think is as soon as you try to be
someone else or or act in a different way. People,
you know, your players, your teammates, they see through that.
So a lot of those guys would have played with
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if we're talking about a James or a Mitch or
whoever the name could be. As the captain, they've got
responsibilities that they've got to partake in decision making and
all that type of stuff, and the coach we obviously
and trust in that, and then how they do their
things on the field, and then how they obviously empower
others because particularly the Warriors, it's such a dynamic environment,
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so not one person is going to be able to
get all the I suppose attention of the whole group.
And like when I was at the club, we had
such a diverse group, so you know, all the different cultures,
and we had boys in our team that were obviously
leaders of those guys in that culture, and that's you know,
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they they would sort of come to me and say
this is what's going on with blah blah blah this week,
you know, but he'll be right for the weekend, and
so you get a completely different understanding where you might
look at him at train and go, oh jeez, he's
not going too good. Hopefully he's going to play well.
But then when you get that understanding, you just you
lay off him a bit and you know by the
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weekend he does come good. So it's having those sort
of trigger points and those understandings and those connections one
person can't always get, you know, it's the connection or
I suppose of thirty players. So when you have those
other guys within the group, that's where you get your connection,
and that's where you get your you know, guys get
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on better with different guys, and it's just personalities and
the way people go. But from a leadership perspective, whoever
they choose that guy, he's going to be able to
connect with everyone and then he'll obviously you lean on
others in the group to get that, you know, probably
higher level connection.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
With Mitchell, the positives and the negatives of being Australian
and dropping into New Zealand and the way they operate,
you have experienced that first time. What worked firsthand? Sorry,
what worked what didn't?
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I think it was definitely understanding your environment and the
boys every you know, when I was captain at the
Bulldog was very different when I was captain of the Warriors,
and I learned so much at both. I learned very
very different lessons at both. So I think Mitch is
at a situation now where he's matured so much since
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gone to the Warriors. He's so consistent, obviously gained representation
which he fully deserved, and I think he's definitely earned
that respect within the team by him just being him.
He wouldn't have to change it or either, mate. So
whether he gets to see inside his name or he doesn't,
Mitch is going to still do what he does, and
that's what your coach wants anyway. So yeah, I do
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really think it's going to change too much, you know,
depending on who he picks as the captain. I don't
think that guy is going to really be stressed out
or it'll affect his game. Because the two guys were
talking about, I think they're you know, they're in a
situation now where they know what they've got to do
in their preparation. They know what they got to do
when they're on the field for their team, and that's
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what inspires their teammates. And that's going to teach those
younger guys who are coming into the group or who
already had the group to be able to do the
same thing. The more consistent everyone is, the more consistent
the team performances, and the more chance you you yourself
to be you know able to get the w at
the end of every week.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
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Speaker 2 (13:51):
Seven, sty Price, former skipper of The Warrior, is talking
about the captaincy. Who will be anointed, who will be named,
who will be labored with that Depending on how well
the season goes, it could be an absolute curse. We
will see. I want your thoughts on this, but before
we go anywhere near that, my thoughts on the possible
captain and the issues around that. On The Fix podcast.
(14:16):
The Sports Fixed podcast, Jason Pine and I release this
song on a daily basis Monday through Friday. Actually do
we yack about that this afternoon And even though Stephen
Price and I ain't gonna argue with him much likes
the fact that James Fisher Harris should be the man
of the hour, the tower of power. Jason Pine has
a different view.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
James Fisher Harris should not be captain of this team.
I disagree with Steve Price on this.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Why.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
I just think he is there and has just arrived
and I think just needs to concentrate on being the
best possible play he can. Look, I know what you're
going to say. That doesn't necessarily mean he can't be captain,
but I would just hate to think that if the
Warriors get off to anything but a perfect start, that
James Fisher Harris comes under the spotlight as captain of
this team. He you know, he clear isn't that comfortable
(15:08):
in the media spotlight. He does what he has to do.
He's done his media and he speaks and you talk
about you talk to people inside the camps he's been
in and they say he doesn't speak much, but when
he does, you listen. I'm not sure that that really
translates across to being a charismatic captain of the team.
You know, Mitch Barnett for.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Me, there you go. There is an argument that says,
though he kind of captain's the Kiwi, so he's all right,
he knows how to do it. And then there's the other
discussion around whether a player is capable of captaining aside
at that level and the national team as well aka
Scott Scooter Barrett, Rob Penny, a named David Harvelli is
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the captain for the Crusaders, saying it's just not fair
and a guy to weigh him down with captaincies internationally
and at that domestic level. So food for thought there.
So my question he really simple, who do you want
to be captain? And why do you think they should
be the most important fas the most important aspects and
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areas of their game, their play, their attitude, whatever that
should give them that role. I'll just list a couple
of names for you playing me. Mitch Barnett has been used,
He's been talked about, JFHTSC and KDW. Is yet to
have a triple letter name to captain side like Roger
to I Vasisk outside chance maybe he'll do that, Nicol
(16:33):
clerkstart maybe what they needs a list near because that
a possibility. He's an outsider for you, and I've already
had this shot down by producer Andy and good reasons too.
I like Wade Egan, But will Wade Egan stay on
the park long enough to be a captain? Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty where would you go? James Fisher
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Harris love it? But Barnett has already got the trust
and the respect of the players there. He can hit
the ground running with the flames at his feet. He's
an Australian, he's separate from and he clicks within the
New Zealand community. He comes from the outside, not unlike
Steve Price. I like him. I'd plump for him or
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no captain at all? And webe walks into the changing
set at the side of go he who wants the arm? Ben?
Who's Ken? You Ken? You're right mate? Yeah, he gave
you the captain day Goold like get out there? Anything
but co captains, don't you dare? Co captain me was
don't you dare? Oh one hundred and eighty ten Oaty,
who would you like? Love your calls? Bring him seven
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twenty four.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
And goals when it's summer live.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Tanklin.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
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Speaker 9 (18:13):
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Speaker 2 (18:16):
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Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia, mister Phil Wore. The
venues for the upcoming Rugby World Cup have been decided, right,
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Let's get to the phones nice and fast. Paul hi.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
Van Darcy the captain. I wouldn't be upset if Barnett
got it, but in my opinion it has to be
Forsher Harris. He's the key, he's captain, He's come from
a club. If you look at the impact that Stephen
Croydon had when he went to the Bulldogs, immediate impact
with his work ethic, his training man a few words
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but leads by example. You look at the impact that
Jerome Lloyd, also from the Panthers, has head at the
Tiger's massive impact. And you know we're having stories about
when Fisher Harris walks into the room. He didn't say much,
but basically his presence and his war and his mother
is there so for all to see. So you know,
for me to no brainer, he has to be the
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captain because he will lead from the front. He's come
from the penw with Panthers, he's won four titles and
he's come from a system and a culture where that's
exactly what we need.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I believe that Riley Price, Steve's son is also spoken
of Fisher Harris and said exactly what you said about
the presence when he enters, his ability to train, when
he turns up, what he does, how he approaches everything,
and it's not like a magic touch, but it must
be pretty close. And can you imagine the young fellas
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with inside the Warriors when a guy of his immense
ability and manna walks in. I think they'll probably do
what he said, but against him absolutely does he does
he need this as well as the Kiwi captaincy? Does
he really want to start off? He could captain from
the side or behind Does he really want to be
that guy talking? Is that really his best place?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Well, I personally think he'll thrive, You'll thrive on it.
Look a look at him as Keywi's captain, when he
leaves the hacker, when he's when he's on the on
the field for those twenty or or thirty minutes, you
know he's he's the guy that you want basically come
and follow me. And he's already lifted the standard at
the standards at the club, not just the physical training standards,
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but standards all around off professionalism and you know he's
he's the guy I do like Barney and maybe they
could rotate obviously when Fisher Harris goes off, Barnett steps
up as captain. But for me, it's a no brainer.
We need to start with him running out of the
tunnel on my first game as captain and just you know,
leading us to the Promised Land hopefully.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Does it concern you that as a prop that he
won't be on the park for the whole game? Does
that worry you? But that he's okay taking a breath
on the bike.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Absolutely, I mean we got we do have leaders here,
Like you said by Hagan, we've got two bars to sheep.
He's been a captain, We've got miss Barnett. I'm just
concerned this was our props at the moment. We I
just don't think we have I personally would like to
see Marta new Korro go and go into the front row.
He's a big body and I'd like to see him
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go there. Maybe bring him Jackson as a full time
you know, second rower. But yeah, that's my concern.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
How have we got in there? Like Bunty Fine, Tom
Haley and there there and I suppose Fisher Harris they're
probably are pre eminent front rowers, aren't they props anyway?
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Yeah, well Bunty, I mean yeah, but Bunty unfortunately they
don't do enough minutes today, haven't got the engine, they
haven't been the line enough, you know. So that is
what concerned is their forward. But as far as leadership goes,
Fisher House is a no brainer for me.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Mate on your Paul, thanks very much. We're calling through
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you not have
your say as well around who should be the captain
of the wars wait Egan. I like the idea of
but as rightly pointed out, will Waite Egan be out
there enough? He seems to collect injuries like we collect
(23:06):
wheekbooks trading card. I don't I just eat the I
don't even eat the whetbitch? What am I saying? But
Wade Egan probably not? Why lean towards Mitch Marnett, what
he's done and how he operates? Fisher Harris can still
be that monstrous man that leads the training leads. The
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example is the discipline and the fitness. The application doesn't
necessarily have to be captain. Run through a few texts
for you now, Wade Egan for captain. Thanks Jeff, right
up in my face. He's a real gutsy lead by
example player. He's also very smart. He reads the game
particularly well. Thank you very much, Jeff. It didn't win
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enough games under Barnett. Great player, but JF H has
to be the man. This is a sinister darcy. The
Auckland Warriors needs to choose the bloke that can handle
the most postmatch lost conversations. Oh Sam, big big shoulders
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and a fetish for pain. And Steve, I don't know
where this has come from. Steve, I'm not quite sure
what game of the league you watch, but you're more
than titled to your opinion, Darcy. I don't know why
they go on about James fitz Harris. He's not that
great of a player. Okay, it's your opinion. And someone
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else said you're forgetting the Wigan way. No, we're not
forgetting the Wigan We just talked about him then when
we find out. I've got no idea as to repeat
as I said before around this, no co captains one
or go none at all. There's something wildly different and
as far as the most important aspect of their captaincy
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interesting conversations around this Number one, What do they have
to do best? Is it create the winning culture? Is
it leading by example on the park? Is it being
the best conduit between coach and team? Is it never
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being injured? One hundred eighty ten eighty. Wayne reckons that
Fisher Harris should be the skipper, Wade Egan and Mitch
Barnett for vice captains. There you go money every way.
Good on your mate. It's twenty five minutes to eight.
This is a sports look on a news talk ZB
(25:38):
still to come on the program. Chief Executive Officer of
Rugby Australia, Phil war to join us. The venues have
been announced. You can almost smell the linament Rugby World
Cups getting closer and closer, panicking much.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
This is news talk zbit.
Speaker 10 (26:17):
Down staying composed here, Wilson still in place for the
drop goal.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Australia come back here.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It is for Johnny.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Has he done it? He has heartbreaker for the lot
of these seconds remaining, and that surely is the stairway
to rugby heaven, Sir e Las.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm gonna go to Australia and I found that over
one meter pressing anywhere. Phil wall Is actually chasing around
the park there day, all day, all day. Didn't get
him in the end. So be it. That was back
in two thousand and three, spent a long time, but
(27:02):
today it was announced the Rugby World Cup has these
venue seven cities across Australia. Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Newcastle, Perth,
Sydney and Townsville. Spready coss. Brisbane's got a pile of games.
Sydney you've got thousands of games, including the semi finals
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and the finals. Melbourne get a couple, but they got
a bit filthy on the whole organization after the Rebels
and if they whipped that super weekend off them. So
I think they came back camp in hand and crawled
around trying to get themselves some form of it worked.
They got it, good for them. Do you discuss that more?
Manlos Ailab a lot more about it than I do, well,
(27:48):
I hope so. Anyway, Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia,
his name is Phil. He joins us now. Good evening, mate,
good evening. I trust you well, thanks very much for
joining the program. It's been a big couple of days
for you. Blake saysn't it. We now know the venues
for the upcoming World Cup. It makes it quite palpable
now you know where the games are being played.
Speaker 11 (28:09):
Well, it becomes very real when we talk about host
cities and those seven host cities hosting the games through
the six week period, and I think everyone's pretty excited
with where everything's landed and it makes for a monumental
twenty twenty seven Rugby World Cup and obviously the twenty
four teams as well, up from twenty teams, so it's
(28:31):
going to be an exciting tournament.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
How did you come to the decision generally around these venues?
Was there a work hand and your decision making process
with the final it sud infect Sydney, if the quids
and aren't they've almost got everything? All are the main
considerations around that field.
Speaker 11 (28:47):
Yeah, Well, the delivery of the World Cups actually run
through World Rugby and through a local organizing committee, so
not selection from RA but selection from World Rugby, and
the processes is generally conversations with the state government's given
the competitiveness the state governments over here, and then balancing
the commite sal elements up against the connection with the
(29:08):
community and the rugby supporters within Australia. So I think
the balance is sensible and commercially it's a great outcome
for rugby, but I think most importantly the connection to
the public and the community and engaging as many new
young fans as we can as possible.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So what's Rugby Australia's hand in the organizing of this?
Is it minimal? What do you actually have? What say
do you have? What do you do?
Speaker 11 (29:35):
Well, we've obviously got very strong relationships across our territories
and our geography. We've got two seats on the Local
Organizing Committee as well, so have clear influence within the
governments of the World Cup as well. But in terms
of the actual ownership of the event, the ownership of
the event sits with World.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Rugby and they what do they write your check for
one hundred million or something like that and they walk
off with the bickie. So is that the way it goes?
They stand to make quite a bit of money out
of us.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Fill.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (30:05):
Obviously the Rugby World Cup for the men's every four
years essentially generates enough revenue to work and then come
the game across or or dispersed at those revenues across
all the national unions and development programs. So yeah, we
obviously get a minimum guarantee and then the revenues generators
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above that minimum guarantee goes towards all rugby playing nations
across the world.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's been uplifted Australian rugby with Joe Schmidt and the
success he's had to date so far. So I suppose
two part question, how much do you put into his
court the success you've had and are you going to
retain them? Are you going hard to actually pick this
guy up because he could be key for big, proud
numbers for Australia and Jason great.
Speaker 11 (30:57):
I think that I've obviously got great athletes here in
Australia playing rugby, and Joe's do a really good job
in twenty twenty four in bringing together those players and
I guess creating a culture which has led to improved
performances which I think everyonce enjoyed watching, not just here
in Australia but around the world. So, you know, we're
(31:18):
very pleased to have Joe in charge of the Wallabies.
And you know, it's well documented that his contracts up
at the end of the British Irish line, so a
lot of focuses on what does it look like postlines,
and we're working through that with Jow at the moment.
Clearly will be pretty creative to ensure that he's got
an influential position within the Wallaby environment to continue the
(31:42):
trajectory that we've been on, but that's still to be finalized. That, Yeah,
we've been very pleased with obviously Joe's influence and very
fortunate to have him involved.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
When it comes to Victoria and the issues ahead around
hosting games, as I believe they almost turn their back
on our ray. I'm not quite sure the political ramifications
are after some eshe through the Rebels and through Melbourne
hosting the Super Rugby week and the like. But at
the last minute they turned around and said we actually
want a bit of that. Is that why they've really
(32:15):
not picked up some of these the major games. They're
still hosting a lot, but they're not as influential significant
as a lot of people thought.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
Film Now that's still got nine games, which is it's
just a large number from the number of games in
the World Cup, and you know, and and four games
at the mcg SO has some big games there, a
quarter finals weekend and I think it's a sensible outcome
given you their love for sport in Victoria and in Melbourne.
(32:45):
And I think that the solution that both World Rugby
and the Victorian government came to is a central one
and hopefully they're looking forward to hosting those big events
as well as welcoming there's I guess less familiar rugby
playing nations to Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
They did go cap in hand World Rugby or not.
Do you know much about that because it was a
bit of a standoff, wasn't it.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
Yeah, Look, we're separate, the separate the two issues, so
you know, whilst you know, times I guess you can
bring together the rebels challenges with with with the Rugby
World Cup content and international rugby, but you know, we
certainly look at it as two separate issues and two
separate opportunities, and so yeah, I think that I think
(33:29):
that it's actually ends up in a good outcome.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Great to see a pragmatic approach to the sleeks and
of the venues and to the actual draw itself, now
that is not out, yeah, but the adjustments to the
dates around the World Cup so you don't run headlong
and two example things like the final series of the
NRL that's sensible, that's that's pleasing.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
Yeah, I think that's been been a great outcome and
that required a World Rugby Council vote to get that outcome,
to push back the start of the World Cup by
two weeks so that there is no clash with AFL
and Rugby League, and that would have had a material
impact in terms of you know the attractiveness of those
eighteen rounds. So great to get that collaboration across all
(34:13):
national unions to push it back two weeks. And then
the first opening game in Perth too, which is which
is really exciting, which again great stadium, a great rugby
following state and you know, as you say, a new
format with six pools of four teams and then around
the sixteen. So it's it's really exciting in terms of
(34:36):
the way it's constructed. And as you say that time
of year, particularly here in Australia, there's you know, there's
you know, we can occupy all sports really because if
l NRL are finished and we'll have clear.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Air Rugby Australia CEO Phil Moore joining us, a repeat
of that outrageous final against England way back what was
two thousand and three, same stadium. You'd like to see that,
I'm sure, But also I'm sure you're going to be
equally sick of questions about you chasing down Johnny Wilkin
and too. That's not going to stop. You realize that
for the next two years.
Speaker 11 (35:11):
Well, it's reminded to me too often, unfortunately that by
chasing around the whole night that unfortunately everyone remembers is
the ninety eighth minute when he hit that right foot
across the black dot to win the game. But I
think that on reflection, that's probably one of the most
memorable sporting events that's ever occurred here in Australia and
(35:34):
you know where we can you get that same level
of interest between twenty seven What.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Are you doing differently to attract fans to bring them
to the game Australian fans. Have you got a master
plan about how you actually put this to on and
out not only for the terrasts but of course for
the locals.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Yeah, I always had. I mean we launched our austrain
Rugby strategy from green to Gold at the end of
last year, focused on three pillars. First one thing performance excellence,
which I hope you won that journey to correcting the
levels of performance. We have had second ones participation growth
and we've had strong elevation across our women's game to
(36:11):
drive up participation as well as our men's seniors game
actually which has been great. And then the third one
is promotion effectiveness and we think of the promotions around
actually how to we ensure that we're spending money in
the right spots to promote the game. But all in all,
we've seen last year we sold out Suncorp against the
spring Box in Brisbane, we sold out to Opta Stadium
(36:35):
in Perth against the spring Box, and then we had
over seventy thousand in Sydney against the All Blacks and
so there's certainly an appetite for rugby. Just need to
ensure that we're performing and attracting not just the rusted
on supporters but new fans to the game. So we've
got a.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Lot of work to do.
Speaker 11 (36:50):
We're the first time is put up our hand and
and am that, but hopefully we're in the right journey.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Lovely that phrase the rusted on supporters. I think I
can count myself amongst out and finally feel one. Thanks
so Matt much for joining us. You'll be keeping a
bit of an eye on James O'Connor playing for the
Mighty Crusaders this year. He's still around.
Speaker 11 (37:08):
That's great to see and obviously a real talent and
I was fortunate enough to play with him, play with
him and against him back in the day, so look
forward to seeing him do well in New Zealand then
obviously when he tours over here. Will will make this
cup as we can for it.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
The right call is your call on eighty Sports Talk,
Call on your home of Sports News Talk ZIB.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia, Phil war There, among
that last statement he used to play against him and
play with him. Does that make Phil War really young
for a CEO or James O'Connor really old for a
rugby player. It's somewhere in between. Great character. Had him
on the show before Phil War it gets or what
(37:53):
he has to do, understands where Australian rugby stand set to.
That's the case that they have stood up recently with
Joe Schmidt wishing the best for this and I expect
there'll be a lot of people from this side of
the testament and who are going to roll on over
to watch some of those games. I might even do
it myself. I'll make the company pay for it plane
(38:14):
because I'm mean, I haven't got any money. But there's
a wonderful festival of rugby and the fact that Schmidt
and let's hope they can sign them, really want to
sign them. They need strong Australia. We know this. We
know this for the All Blacks sake, but for the
World Cup's sake as well. You know what the ground
swell on the fervor is like within a sporting nation
(38:35):
when they are doing well and they are hosting a
genuine world tournament and we know what the Aussie's are
like when it comes to home support for a winning
team and the way they put on big events. This
is going to be absolutely huge. Really looking forward to
it now we know the venues. Next, it's the draw,
(38:57):
of course, the drawer. Last time they did it about
four decades out, so by the time it came around
to it, all the top teams in the world in
the same pool. Disaster. At this time around they're just
pushing it out. But it was three years out from
the World Cup and they determined the pool. So what
nice to know there was lessons learned or learning's lessoned,
(39:18):
what do you want to call it, But so they're changed.
I think you're going to do it within a year
a bit of the start of the Tournable, which is wonderful.
It's eight minutes to eight Sports Talk on that news
Talk ZB might have been a comment on that Rugby
World Cup. How keen you are for this? Hey? You
think the Australians are going to go? I think with
Schmidt and Wore they might actually start doing something. They
(39:40):
might gain some traction until we played them for the
Bleaders like cup over at the World Cup and this
is news Talks, eb.
Speaker 6 (39:51):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
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News Talk CB. My name's Darcy Waldegrave. On a Thursday evening,
thirteth of January twenty twenty five. This is Sports Talk
talking sport now through until eight, talking sport with a
couple of reasonably heavy hitters. Off, I don't mind saying
so myself. Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia, Phil war
(00:56):
joins us later in the program. The Rugby World Cup
host cities have been announced. Sydney has everything. They've thrown
a couple of some other territories as well. That's not
entirely true, but Sydney, do you have a line share
of these events? The course Stadium which includes the final,
(01:17):
both semifinals, the playoff for third and fourth quarterfinals. They've
got everything. But hey, we'll talk to Phil Wore about
that now that we know who the cities are and
what Melbourne did to get themselves back into favor again.
Straight up, though, we're going to talk with the Steve
Price format Warriors captain. Makes sense to talk with Steve
(01:40):
being a Warriors captain from Australia about what it takes
to be the Warriors captain, what's important, what are the
big considerations, what he did, what he should have done,
and more importantly, who does he actually like for the role.
We'll talk to Steve Price about that shortly after that
(02:02):
your chance, who do the wise? Name is their new captain?
Open Slava, simple question, give me a name and a
reason why. That's what we're going to do. We're going
to play captain selection games today on Sports Talk, but
before that, let's do this today and in sport today,
(02:22):
Dame Sophie Pasco, one of New Zealand's premier athletes, is
called time on getting up before the birds for a splash.
The heavily decorated swimmer, owner of eleven Paralympic golds on
a mantlepiece heaving with tin, has played tribute to the
sport that has dominated her life.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Swimming has given me everything, a purpose, a passion, a platform,
lifelong friendships. It has shaped me in ways I never
imagined and I will forever cherish the opportunities, lessons and
experiences it has given me.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Across the paddock, from goat to goat. Another athlete touched
with King George, the sixth weapon has done the opposite.
Dame Lisa Carrington didn't entertain the thought of retirement. She's
doubling down for more, committing to the Olympics in LA
for what will be her fifth Olympic crusade Cano. You're
raising ends at high performance, bro Nathan Loose. She's back,
(03:16):
but there are no guarantees except she will be throwing
the kitchen sink at training and quite possibly the dumb
waiter as well.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
If she decides she's doing something, she'll do it of
her capability and her commitment will be probably unmarched again.
But at the same time, there are no certainties with things,
so she's taking it a step by step approach like
she always does.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And still with royally sealed female athletes. Dame Lydia Coe
is priming herself the start of a new season of
the LPGA. The Olympic gold medalist and three times Major
winner aka Let's throw on silver and bronze Olympic medalists
as well, is intent on riding the success wave even
if it dumps from the shallows from time to time.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
I have the belief that even if I don't play well,
for a span of a few weeks. I don't need
to get down on myself because I know what direction
I'm going and I just believe that I can overcome.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
My lull Dame Dame Dame. And that's scores today. Minutes
up to seven. Stephen Price, we go now, former Warriors captain,
to talk about exactly that. Who was going to take
over Pahu Harris? Who's going to be the next skipper
of the Wars? Steven Price, good evening, mate. I'm very
(04:34):
very well. I don't have a decision around who I
anoint as the captain for the Wars, and that's something
that's well, it's well on its way. And if anyone
knows a bit about captaining the Warriors, it's you. How
many times ninety plus.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
Yeah, it's a huge honor, mate. Obviously, I really enjoyed
my time at the club and particularly being one of
the leaders. Just because you've got to see beside, your
name doesn't mean you the only one had obviously Reuben
and Stacey and so many other guys in the team
that played huge role in the leadership of the group.
And that's where the boys are going to be at currently.
(05:11):
You know, like even though there's going to be someone
with one or two. I'm not sure what the coach
is going to do, but if you know there's a guy,
you pretty much toss the coin and you speak to
the referee, you know. But there's so many more players
are part of the group that are going to play well.
Everyone plays a leadership role in some way. That's what
you want anyway. But I think probably stand out would
(05:35):
be probably James. You know, obviously the club has brought
him for everything that he brings. I believe that he's
doing what he does best and that's leading with his actions.
Probably still talking to the boys, you know, obviously coming
to the new club and really trying to lift those
standards and that's what he's been brought over to the Warriors.
(05:57):
And he's the current Kiwi captain as well, which you
know is he's doing such a great job there. So
whether he's the guy with the seis his name, he's
still going to do what he does. Mitch Barnett I thinks,
really growing as a player and his presence on the field,
and then there's so many other guys who could probably
put their hand up as well. You know, even when
(06:20):
you start to consider front Rawy. Sorry, he's not going
to be on the field the whole time. But that's
where you rely on the whole group to play a
role and you really want to encourage every individual or
to be a leader in their own way. So I think, yeah,
exciting times for the Warriors. And I don't think they've
only got one or two options. I think they've got
(06:42):
many options they could choose for all different sorts of reasons.
But everyone's still going to do the same thing they're
going to do and play the same role they're going
to play anyway, whether they've got the captain next to
their name or not.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Sit in culture, how important is that in your mind
from a captain? This is not on field culture. This
is what happens in the training pad of the stuff
we don't see. Where does that's it?
Speaker 6 (07:05):
I think it's probably the most integral part of success
and consistency. Actually listening to Ivan's book at the moment,
and you know, that's a fair reason why the Panthers
have been in for or one four out of the
last five Grand Finals. He's a massive advocate of culture
(07:28):
and connection and that's why guys who leads the Panthers
like Stephen Crichton, and you know Andrew Webster as a coach.
I'm sure by James going to the club that's going
to be very very important for him, but also for
Andrew to be embedding that. And I think they've been
(07:49):
doing a fantastic job. And you don't want to be Penans,
you want to be your own identity, and I think
the Warriors are starting to find what that identity is
and I think someone like James coming in is really
going to be able to you know, I suppose spur
that on even more, both on and off.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
The field, onto it between the captain and the team.
Even though you say it very much as a group
effort and we know that, but the importance of understanding
what the coach wants to sit down and what he needs.
It's not one way traffic because it's very much a
team effort.
Speaker 6 (08:23):
Yeah it is, mate, And I think you know, you
don't always have the coach say this is what I want, mate,
because usually the guy that they pick is living and
breathing and doing that. And that's probably why James would
be a great example, is that you hear and you
see him on the training paddock, and then you hear
and you see him on the footy field as well,
(08:43):
and there's really no difference between either. He's very consistent,
you know what you're going to get every single game.
He doesn't say a lot, but when he does say something,
guys stop and listen. Very similar assignment Manory. You know,
he's an action man rather than a wordsman, but if
he does want to say something, he will say it
and everyone listens. So he's very inspiration on how he
(09:08):
goes about his stuff and that's why he's a massive
signing to the club. You know, I just can't think
of any better signing that the Warriors could have had
other than James. And if you gave him that actual title,
I think it'd be hugely if be very proud and
very excited to play that extra responsibility. But also it
(09:30):
wouldn't change him about how he goes about his stuff
because that's what he does and obviously that's why he's
so valuable.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
You've got to be respected by your teammates. Steve Price
a friend to a degree, but is there a slight
separation between being the captain the man who wears it
all and carries it on his shoulder, which means you
set yourself slightly apart.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
I think that's definitely up to the individual and probably
your group. I probably was a little bit different to
others anyway. And as long as you've been yourself, mate,
I think is as soon as you try to be
someone else or or act in a different way. People,
you know, your players, your teammates, they see through that.
So a lot of those guys would have played with
(10:15):
if we're talking about a James or a Mitch or
whoever the name could be. As the captain, they've got
responsibilities that they've got to partake in decision making and
all that type of stuff, and the coach we obviously
and trust in that, and then how they do their
things on the field, and then how they obviously empower
others because particularly the Warriors, it's such a dynamic environment,
(10:40):
so not one person is going to be able to
get all the I suppose attention of the whole group.
And like when I was at the club, we had
such a diverse group, so you know, all the different cultures,
and we had boys in our team that were obviously
leaders of those guys in that culture, and that's you know,
(11:01):
they they would sort of come to me and say
this is what's going on with blah blah blah this week,
you know, but he'll be right for the weekend, and
so you get a completely different understanding where you might
look at him at train and go, oh jeez, he's
not going too good. Hopefully he's going to play well.
But then when you get that understanding, you just you
lay off him a bit and you know by the
(11:22):
weekend he does come good. So it's having those sort
of trigger points and those understandings and those connections one
person can't always get, you know, it's the connection or
I suppose of thirty players. So when you have those
other guys within the group, that's where you get your connection,
and that's where you get your you know, guys get
(11:42):
on better with different guys, and it's just personalities and
the way people go. But from a leadership perspective, whoever
they choose that guy, he's going to be able to
connect with everyone and then he'll obviously you lean on
others in the group to get that, you know, probably
higher level connection.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
With Mitchell, the positives and the negatives of being Australian
and dropping into New Zealand and the way they operate,
you have experienced that first time. What worked firsthand? Sorry,
what worked what didn't?
Speaker 6 (12:16):
I think it was definitely understanding your environment and the
boys every you know, when I was captain at the
Bulldog was very different when I was captain of the Warriors,
and I learned so much at both. I learned very
very different lessons at both. So I think Mitch is
at a situation now where he's matured so much since
(12:37):
gone to the Warriors. He's so consistent, obviously gained representation
which he fully deserved, and I think he's definitely earned
that respect within the team by him just being him.
He wouldn't have to change it or either, mate. So
whether he gets to see inside his name or he doesn't,
Mitch is going to still do what he does, and
that's what your coach wants anyway. So yeah, I do
(13:00):
really think it's going to change too much, you know,
depending on who he picks as the captain. I don't
think that guy is going to really be stressed out
or it'll affect his game. Because the two guys were
talking about, I think they're you know, they're in a
situation now where they know what they've got to do
in their preparation. They know what they got to do
when they're on the field for their team, and that's
(13:22):
what inspires their teammates. And that's going to teach those
younger guys who are coming into the group or who
already had the group to be able to do the
same thing. The more consistent everyone is, the more consistent
the team performances, and the more chance you you yourself
to be you know able to get the w at
the end of every week.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Forget the riffs, call you make a call. Sports Talking
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Speaker 2 (13:51):
Seven, sty Price, former skipper of The Warrior, is talking
about the captaincy. Who will be anointed, who will be named,
who will be labored with that Depending on how well
the season goes, it could be an absolute curse. We
will see. I want your thoughts on this, but before
we go anywhere near that, my thoughts on the possible
captain and the issues around that. On The Fix podcast.
(14:16):
The Sports Fixed podcast, Jason Pine and I release this
song on a daily basis Monday through Friday. Actually do
we yack about that this afternoon And even though Stephen
Price and I ain't gonna argue with him much likes
the fact that James Fisher Harris should be the man
of the hour, the tower of power. Jason Pine has
a different view.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
James Fisher Harris should not be captain of this team.
I disagree with Steve Price on this.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Why.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
I just think he is there and has just arrived
and I think just needs to concentrate on being the
best possible play he can. Look, I know what you're
going to say. That doesn't necessarily mean he can't be captain,
but I would just hate to think that if the
Warriors get off to anything but a perfect start, that
James Fisher Harris comes under the spotlight as captain of
this team. He you know, he clear isn't that comfortable
(15:08):
in the media spotlight. He does what he has to do.
He's done his media and he speaks and you talk
about you talk to people inside the camps he's been
in and they say he doesn't speak much, but when
he does, you listen. I'm not sure that that really
translates across to being a charismatic captain of the team.
You know, Mitch Barnett for.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Me, there you go. There is an argument that says,
though he kind of captain's the Kiwi, so he's all right,
he knows how to do it. And then there's the other
discussion around whether a player is capable of captaining aside
at that level and the national team as well aka
Scott Scooter Barrett, Rob Penny, a named David Harvelli is
(15:49):
the captain for the Crusaders, saying it's just not fair
and a guy to weigh him down with captaincies internationally
and at that domestic level. So food for thought there.
So my question he really simple, who do you want
to be captain? And why do you think they should
be the most important fas the most important aspects and
(16:10):
areas of their game, their play, their attitude, whatever that
should give them that role. I'll just list a couple
of names for you playing me. Mitch Barnett has been used,
He's been talked about, JFHTSC and KDW. Is yet to
have a triple letter name to captain side like Roger
to I Vasisk outside chance maybe he'll do that, Nicol
(16:33):
clerkstart maybe what they needs a list near because that
a possibility. He's an outsider for you, and I've already
had this shot down by producer Andy and good reasons too.
I like Wade Egan, But will Wade Egan stay on
the park long enough to be a captain? Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty where would you go? James Fisher
(16:59):
Harris love it? But Barnett has already got the trust
and the respect of the players there. He can hit
the ground running with the flames at his feet. He's
an Australian, he's separate from and he clicks within the
New Zealand community. He comes from the outside, not unlike
Steve Price. I like him. I'd plump for him or
(17:24):
no captain at all? And webe walks into the changing
set at the side of go he who wants the arm? Ben?
Who's Ken? You Ken? You're right mate? Yeah, he gave
you the captain day Goold like get out there? Anything
but co captains, don't you dare? Co captain me was
don't you dare? Oh one hundred and eighty ten Oaty,
who would you like? Love your calls? Bring him seven
(17:45):
twenty four.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
And goals when it's summer live.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Tanklin.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
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Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia, mister Phil Wore. The
venues for the upcoming Rugby World Cup have been decided, right,
(19:02):
Let's get to the phones nice and fast. Paul hi.
Speaker 9 (19:08):
Van Darcy the captain. I wouldn't be upset if Barnett
got it, but in my opinion it has to be
Forsher Harris. He's the key, he's captain, He's come from
a club. If you look at the impact that Stephen
Croydon had when he went to the Bulldogs, immediate impact
with his work ethic, his training man a few words
(19:31):
but leads by example. You look at the impact that
Jerome Lloyd, also from the Panthers, has head at the
Tiger's massive impact. And you know we're having stories about
when Fisher Harris walks into the room. He didn't say much,
but basically his presence and his war and his mother
is there so for all to see. So you know,
for me to no brainer, he has to be the
(19:52):
captain because he will lead from the front. He's come
from the penw with Panthers, he's won four titles and
he's come from a system and a culture where that's
exactly what we need.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
I believe that Riley Price, Steve's son is also spoken
of Fisher Harris and said exactly what you said about
the presence when he enters, his ability to train, when
he turns up, what he does, how he approaches everything,
and it's not like a magic touch, but it must
be pretty close. And can you imagine the young fellas
(20:28):
with inside the Warriors when a guy of his immense
ability and manna walks in. I think they'll probably do
what he said, but against him absolutely does he does
he need this as well as the Kiwi captaincy? Does
he really want to start off? He could captain from
the side or behind Does he really want to be
that guy talking? Is that really his best place?
Speaker 9 (20:53):
Well, I personally think he'll thrive, You'll thrive on it.
Look a look at him as Keywi's captain, when he
leaves the hacker, when he's when he's on the on
the field for those twenty or or thirty minutes, you
know he's he's the guy that you want basically come
and follow me. And he's already lifted the standard at
the standards at the club, not just the physical training standards,
(21:13):
but standards all around off professionalism and you know he's
he's the guy I do like Barney and maybe they
could rotate obviously when Fisher Harris goes off, Barnett steps
up as captain. But for me, it's a no brainer.
We need to start with him running out of the
tunnel on my first game as captain and just you know,
leading us to the Promised Land hopefully.
Speaker 6 (21:34):
Mate.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Does it concern you that as a prop that he
won't be on the park for the whole game? Does
that worry you? But that he's okay taking a breath
on the bike.
Speaker 9 (21:46):
Absolutely, I mean we got we do have leaders here,
Like you said by Hagan, we've got two bars to sheep.
He's been a captain, We've got miss Barnett. I'm just
concerned this was our props at the moment. We I
just don't think we have I personally would like to
see Marta new Korro go and go into the front row.
He's a big body and I'd like to see him
(22:07):
go there. Maybe bring him Jackson as a full time
you know, second rower. But yeah, that's my concern.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
How have we got in there? Like Bunty Fine, Tom
Haley and there there and I suppose Fisher Harris they're
probably are pre eminent front rowers, aren't they props anyway?
Speaker 9 (22:28):
Yeah, well Bunty, I mean yeah, but Bunty unfortunately they
don't do enough minutes today, haven't got the engine, they
haven't been the line enough, you know. So that is
what concerned is their forward. But as far as leadership goes,
Fisher House is a no brainer for me.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Mate on your Paul, thanks very much. We're calling through
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. If you not have
your say as well around who should be the captain
of the wars wait Egan. I like the idea of
but as rightly pointed out, will Waite Egan be out
there enough? He seems to collect injuries like we collect
(23:06):
wheekbooks trading card. I don't I just eat the I
don't even eat the whetbitch? What am I saying? But
Wade Egan probably not? Why lean towards Mitch Marnett, what
he's done and how he operates? Fisher Harris can still
be that monstrous man that leads the training leads. The
(23:27):
example is the discipline and the fitness. The application doesn't
necessarily have to be captain. Run through a few texts
for you now, Wade Egan for captain. Thanks Jeff, right
up in my face. He's a real gutsy lead by
example player. He's also very smart. He reads the game
particularly well. Thank you very much, Jeff. It didn't win
(23:49):
enough games under Barnett. Great player, but JF H has
to be the man. This is a sinister darcy. The
Auckland Warriors needs to choose the bloke that can handle
the most postmatch lost conversations. Oh Sam, big big shoulders
(24:09):
and a fetish for pain. And Steve, I don't know
where this has come from. Steve, I'm not quite sure
what game of the league you watch, but you're more
than titled to your opinion, Darcy. I don't know why
they go on about James fitz Harris. He's not that
great of a player. Okay, it's your opinion. And someone
(24:30):
else said you're forgetting the Wigan way. No, we're not
forgetting the Wigan We just talked about him then when
we find out. I've got no idea as to repeat
as I said before around this, no co captains one
or go none at all. There's something wildly different and
as far as the most important aspect of their captaincy
(24:54):
interesting conversations around this Number one, What do they have
to do best? Is it create the winning culture? Is
it leading by example on the park? Is it being
the best conduit between coach and team? Is it never
(25:17):
being injured? One hundred eighty ten eighty. Wayne reckons that
Fisher Harris should be the skipper, Wade Egan and Mitch
Barnett for vice captains. There you go money every way.
Good on your mate. It's twenty five minutes to eight.
This is a sports look on a news talk ZB
(25:38):
still to come on the program. Chief Executive Officer of
Rugby Australia, Phil war to join us. The venues have
been announced. You can almost smell the linament Rugby World
Cups getting closer and closer, panicking much.
Speaker 8 (25:57):
This is news talk zbit.
Speaker 10 (26:17):
Down staying composed here, Wilson still in place for the
drop goal.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Australia come back here.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
It is for Johnny.
Speaker 10 (26:25):
Has he done it? He has heartbreaker for the lot
of these seconds remaining, and that surely is the stairway
to rugby heaven, Sir e Las.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
I'm gonna go to Australia and I found that over
one meter pressing anywhere. Phil wall Is actually chasing around
the park there day, all day, all day. Didn't get
him in the end. So be it. That was back
in two thousand and three, spent a long time, but
(27:02):
today it was announced the Rugby World Cup has these
venue seven cities across Australia. Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne, Newcastle, Perth,
Sydney and Townsville. Spready coss. Brisbane's got a pile of games.
Sydney you've got thousands of games, including the semi finals
(27:26):
and the finals. Melbourne get a couple, but they got
a bit filthy on the whole organization after the Rebels
and if they whipped that super weekend off them. So
I think they came back camp in hand and crawled
around trying to get themselves some form of it worked.
They got it, good for them. Do you discuss that more?
Manlos Ailab a lot more about it than I do, well,
(27:48):
I hope so. Anyway, Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia,
his name is Phil. He joins us now. Good evening, mate,
good evening. I trust you well, thanks very much for
joining the program. It's been a big couple of days
for you. Blake saysn't it. We now know the venues
for the upcoming World Cup. It makes it quite palpable
now you know where the games are being played.
Speaker 11 (28:09):
Well, it becomes very real when we talk about host
cities and those seven host cities hosting the games through
the six week period, and I think everyone's pretty excited
with where everything's landed and it makes for a monumental
twenty twenty seven Rugby World Cup and obviously the twenty
four teams as well, up from twenty teams, so it's
(28:31):
going to be an exciting tournament.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
How did you come to the decision generally around these venues?
Was there a work hand and your decision making process
with the final it sud infect Sydney, if the quids
and aren't they've almost got everything? All are the main
considerations around that field.
Speaker 11 (28:47):
Yeah, Well, the delivery of the World Cups actually run
through World Rugby and through a local organizing committee, so
not selection from RA but selection from World Rugby, and
the processes is generally conversations with the state government's given
the competitiveness the state governments over here, and then balancing
the commite sal elements up against the connection with the
(29:08):
community and the rugby supporters within Australia. So I think
the balance is sensible and commercially it's a great outcome
for rugby, but I think most importantly the connection to
the public and the community and engaging as many new
young fans as we can as possible.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
So what's Rugby Australia's hand in the organizing of this?
Is it minimal? What do you actually have? What say
do you have? What do you do?
Speaker 11 (29:35):
Well, we've obviously got very strong relationships across our territories
and our geography. We've got two seats on the Local
Organizing Committee as well, so have clear influence within the
governments of the World Cup as well. But in terms
of the actual ownership of the event, the ownership of
the event sits with World.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Rugby and they what do they write your check for
one hundred million or something like that and they walk
off with the bickie. So is that the way it goes?
They stand to make quite a bit of money out
of us.
Speaker 8 (30:03):
Fill.
Speaker 10 (30:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (30:05):
Obviously the Rugby World Cup for the men's every four
years essentially generates enough revenue to work and then come
the game across or or dispersed at those revenues across
all the national unions and development programs. So yeah, we
obviously get a minimum guarantee and then the revenues generators
(30:29):
above that minimum guarantee goes towards all rugby playing nations
across the world.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
It's been uplifted Australian rugby with Joe Schmidt and the
success he's had to date so far. So I suppose
two part question, how much do you put into his
court the success you've had and are you going to
retain them? Are you going hard to actually pick this
guy up because he could be key for big, proud
numbers for Australia and Jason great.
Speaker 11 (30:57):
I think that I've obviously got great athletes here in
Australia playing rugby, and Joe's do a really good job
in twenty twenty four in bringing together those players and
I guess creating a culture which has led to improved
performances which I think everyonce enjoyed watching, not just here
in Australia but around the world. So, you know, we're
(31:18):
very pleased to have Joe in charge of the Wallabies.
And you know, it's well documented that his contracts up
at the end of the British Irish line, so a
lot of focuses on what does it look like postlines,
and we're working through that with Jow at the moment.
Clearly will be pretty creative to ensure that he's got
an influential position within the Wallaby environment to continue the
(31:42):
trajectory that we've been on, but that's still to be finalized. That, Yeah,
we've been very pleased with obviously Joe's influence and very
fortunate to have him involved.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
When it comes to Victoria and the issues ahead around
hosting games, as I believe they almost turn their back
on our ray. I'm not quite sure the political ramifications
are after some eshe through the Rebels and through Melbourne
hosting the Super Rugby week and the like. But at
the last minute they turned around and said we actually
want a bit of that. Is that why they've really
(32:15):
not picked up some of these the major games. They're
still hosting a lot, but they're not as influential significant
as a lot of people thought.
Speaker 11 (32:24):
Film Now that's still got nine games, which is it's
just a large number from the number of games in
the World Cup, and you know, and and four games
at the mcg SO has some big games there, a
quarter finals weekend and I think it's a sensible outcome
given you their love for sport in Victoria and in Melbourne.
(32:45):
And I think that the solution that both World Rugby
and the Victorian government came to is a central one
and hopefully they're looking forward to hosting those big events
as well as welcoming there's I guess less familiar rugby
playing nations to Melbourne.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
They did go cap in hand World Rugby or not.
Do you know much about that because it was a
bit of a standoff, wasn't it.
Speaker 11 (33:08):
Yeah, Look, we're separate, the separate the two issues, so
you know, whilst you know, times I guess you can
bring together the rebels challenges with with with the Rugby
World Cup content and international rugby, but you know, we
certainly look at it as two separate issues and two
separate opportunities, and so yeah, I think that I think
(33:29):
that it's actually ends up in a good outcome.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Great to see a pragmatic approach to the sleeks and
of the venues and to the actual draw itself, now
that is not out, yeah, but the adjustments to the
dates around the World Cup so you don't run headlong
and two example things like the final series of the
NRL that's sensible, that's that's pleasing.
Speaker 11 (33:52):
Yeah, I think that's been been a great outcome and
that required a World Rugby Council vote to get that outcome,
to push back the start of the World Cup by
two weeks so that there is no clash with AFL
and Rugby League, and that would have had a material
impact in terms of you know the attractiveness of those
eighteen rounds. So great to get that collaboration across all
(34:13):
national unions to push it back two weeks. And then
the first opening game in Perth too, which is which
is really exciting, which again great stadium, a great rugby
following state and you know, as you say, a new
format with six pools of four teams and then around
the sixteen. So it's it's really exciting in terms of
(34:36):
the way it's constructed. And as you say that time
of year, particularly here in Australia, there's you know, there's
you know, we can occupy all sports really because if
l NRL are finished and we'll have clear.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Air Rugby Australia CEO Phil Moore joining us, a repeat
of that outrageous final against England way back what was
two thousand and three, same stadium. You'd like to see that,
I'm sure, But also I'm sure you're going to be
equally sick of questions about you chasing down Johnny Wilkin
and too. That's not going to stop. You realize that
for the next two years.
Speaker 11 (35:11):
Well, it's reminded to me too often, unfortunately that by
chasing around the whole night that unfortunately everyone remembers is
the ninety eighth minute when he hit that right foot
across the black dot to win the game. But I
think that on reflection, that's probably one of the most
memorable sporting events that's ever occurred here in Australia and
(35:34):
you know where we can you get that same level
of interest between twenty seven What.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Are you doing differently to attract fans to bring them
to the game Australian fans. Have you got a master
plan about how you actually put this to on and
out not only for the terrasts but of course for
the locals.
Speaker 11 (35:50):
Yeah, I always had. I mean we launched our austrain
Rugby strategy from green to Gold at the end of
last year, focused on three pillars. First one thing performance excellence,
which I hope you won that journey to correcting the
levels of performance. We have had second ones participation growth
and we've had strong elevation across our women's game to
(36:11):
drive up participation as well as our men's seniors game
actually which has been great. And then the third one
is promotion effectiveness and we think of the promotions around
actually how to we ensure that we're spending money in
the right spots to promote the game. But all in all,
we've seen last year we sold out Suncorp against the
spring Box in Brisbane, we sold out to Opta Stadium
(36:35):
in Perth against the spring Box, and then we had
over seventy thousand in Sydney against the All Blacks and
so there's certainly an appetite for rugby. Just need to
ensure that we're performing and attracting not just the rusted
on supporters but new fans to the game. So we've
got a.
Speaker 6 (36:49):
Lot of work to do.
Speaker 11 (36:50):
We're the first time is put up our hand and
and am that, but hopefully we're in the right journey.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Lovely that phrase the rusted on supporters. I think I
can count myself amongst out and finally feel one. Thanks
so Matt much for joining us. You'll be keeping a
bit of an eye on James O'Connor playing for the
Mighty Crusaders this year. He's still around.
Speaker 11 (37:08):
That's great to see and obviously a real talent and
I was fortunate enough to play with him, play with
him and against him back in the day, so look
forward to seeing him do well in New Zealand then
obviously when he tours over here. Will will make this
cup as we can for it.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
The right call is your call on eighty Sports Talk,
Call on your home of Sports News Talk ZIB.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Chief Executive Officer of Rugby Australia, Phil war There, among
that last statement he used to play against him and
play with him. Does that make Phil War really young
for a CEO or James O'Connor really old for a
rugby player. It's somewhere in between. Great character. Had him
on the show before Phil War it gets or what
(37:53):
he has to do, understands where Australian rugby stand set to.
That's the case that they have stood up recently with
Joe Schmidt wishing the best for this and I expect
there'll be a lot of people from this side of
the testament and who are going to roll on over
to watch some of those games. I might even do
it myself. I'll make the company pay for it plane
(38:14):
because I'm mean, I haven't got any money. But there's
a wonderful festival of rugby and the fact that Schmidt
and let's hope they can sign them, really want to
sign them. They need strong Australia. We know this. We
know this for the All Blacks sake, but for the
World Cup's sake as well. You know what the ground
swell on the fervor is like within a sporting nation
(38:35):
when they are doing well and they are hosting a
genuine world tournament and we know what the Aussie's are
like when it comes to home support for a winning
team and the way they put on big events. This
is going to be absolutely huge. Really looking forward to
it now we know the venues. Next, it's the draw,
(38:57):
of course, the drawer. Last time they did it about
four decades out, so by the time it came around
to it, all the top teams in the world in
the same pool. Disaster. At this time around they're just
pushing it out. But it was three years out from
the World Cup and they determined the pool. So what
nice to know there was lessons learned or learning's lessoned,
(39:18):
what do you want to call it, But so they're changed.
I think you're going to do it within a year
a bit of the start of the Tournable, which is wonderful.
It's eight minutes to eight Sports Talk on that news
Talk ZB might have been a comment on that Rugby
World Cup. How keen you are for this? Hey? You
think the Australians are going to go? I think with
Schmidt and Wore they might actually start doing something. They
(39:40):
might gain some traction until we played them for the
Bleaders like cup over at the World Cup and this
is news Talks, eb.
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