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D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:

Former Warrior Lewis Brown on whether it's our year.

Talkback- is this our year?

Former Blue Bryce Heem on his retirement.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sports Talk podcast with Darcy Waldegrave
from News Talk SEDB.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well i'll be if it's not work time again. Hello,
I'm Darcy Aldergrave back from a weekend. Yeah, it goes
through Monday, but I ain't here on Saturday morning. Cut
the man some slack technically speaking. I work all weekend
to grind. I tell you, sitting in front of the
TV all Saturday, all Sunday, all Monday watching Sport the Sacrifices.

(00:57):
I go through producer and it's Melicic.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hi.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Welcome to the show's producer, Millicite. Anyway, I'm constantly complaining,
Darcy Watergrave. I've got nothing to complain about. My life
is good. Seven after seven it is. There's Tuesday, six
twenty twenty five. Teamless Tuesday, Team naming Tuesday. I've got
the team for you, but you can't have it just yet.

(01:22):
I'll bring it to you shortly. First, we're going to
have a chat with Littis Brown for my Warrior former
Kiwi still engaged and involved with the Warriors on a
number of levels. We'll talk to him about dare I
say it ere it goes? Are you ready brace yourself?
After what happened in the magic round? Is this? Oh ye,

(01:50):
I was waiting for that noise Again it's only early
doors of the wise, but that was quite Oh, look
at that some performance from the Warriors in the magic round.
They were giving that cow man a licking and then
in the space of seven short and it's they absolutely
evacuated their balls through their duvet and it was all over.

(02:13):
But no, they showed some steel, they showed some spine,
they showed a willingness to defend and keep their line
and looks a LORDI the two points were there. I
want to talk all about that. I want to talk
about why the team has gone to the state it's
gone too. What happens now we'll look at that team
as well. And as Lewis Brown joining us shortly and

(02:34):
in rugby union today, Bryce Heen fourteen years as a
professional rugby player, taking them up and down our tierro
off over to England, to France back here again. As
it turns out, his last game of pro rugby. He
picked himself up a supertitle. Oh that's nice. We'll talk
to Bryce Hean about his retirement, about his career and

(02:58):
it's coming up toward the end of the program. Most important,
I'm going to take your calls on our eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty context now nineteen that ZBZ
be standard text chudge does apply. But before we launch
in to Louis Brown, let's.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
Do this Sport today.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
And in Sports today, of course, he put an a
monster shift against the Cowboys in the Magic round. The
warst wingman got cranked really early in the first half
and held fast for the rest of the fixture eighty
minutes all smashed up. Coach Andrew Webster reflect.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
Dad ed would play this week and he's going for
his second scame. Nothing showed up in the first one.
He's in a lot of pained, so we'll find out.
I don't know if you remember he turned and saved
that try hit it in, so he carried it for
the whole game, and you're so brave.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Damn damn Blues player Bryce He that has called time
on his forty in new professional career after succumbing to
the wrist injury he picked up in the NPC last season.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
I thought I'd had a good run in fourteen years
of professional footy.

Speaker 7 (04:06):
Got won a title last year, which was awesome. Then,
so yeah, I don't really have any frigorant.

Speaker 6 (04:10):
It's when I look back on my career and just
thought as good timing, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
The New York Micks beat the Boston Celtics today in Boston.
After grobbling to a twenty point deficit, they woke up
and they chased down the Boston Boys eventually won in
game one of their Eastern Conference semifinal one O eight
one oh five. Coach Tom Tebadoo couldn't contain his joy.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
I thought it was a great team.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Went uh, we started well, then we fell into a hall,
then we fought our way out and then we made
top players down the stretch.

Speaker 8 (04:51):
And I think that's huge for us.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Okay, that's good. And you've got to keep a hat
on your emotion as a coach. You got to keep calm, steady, tiller,
you know, the drill and the crucible. Has turned out
a new World snook at champion. He's the first Asian man.

Speaker 8 (05:06):
To do so as well.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Joao Shintong picks low hanging fruit in the post match interview,
much to the delights of the pie eyed English fans.

Speaker 8 (05:16):
How are you going to celebrate? Yeah, maybe you have
a good drink today.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
And that's sport today right now, don't ever wee chat
with Lewis Brown. We look at the Wahs, what they
provided over the weekend, how far they can actually go
in this competition. Lewis Brown, Hey, hi, mister Brown, how
are you. I'm very very well following the Warriors team

(05:48):
that are looking likely right now. Don't want to get
too carried away, but you know what it's like when
you were playing. It's our year, So what do you reckon?
How are they going to go this year? Because they've
shown everything so far.

Speaker 9 (06:00):
Yes, it's the biggest question, isn't it you know, consistency,
you know, they've probably showing all areas of their game,
you know, the you know obviously the negatives, you know,
with the sort of you know, got beat round one,
come out a bit flat, you know, the whole the
whole Vegas thing, sort of I feel like got to
them a little bit, a lot of travel and then
you know, sort of found their straps and have really

(06:21):
sort of hung hung their hat on their defense and
not not just the way they defend, but the belief
that they're having each other like you know, like you know,
we speak about the game in the weekend, it gets
the Cowboy study to twenty six. You know that that
game in the last two or three years, we would
have lost that by twenty. The way that they showed resilience,
the back to back efforts and you know the position,

(06:41):
you know, fifty five forty five, you know, the way
we defended our line, it's just like really proud. It's
something I really haven't seen for a long time for
especially for like a really really like we've got a
pretty young core of boys in that team. You know,
like you know, the young half the outside backs of
very young, our back roles are young, you know, so
you know, to be helped to have that attitude and

(07:03):
you know, had that DNA, that what we be talking
about completing the sets and you know, the DNA for
the Warriors has given themselves an opportunity to actually compete
in the game. And on the weekend they did that.
And you know, I spoke to someone yesterday from the club,
and I think the way that they won the game,
I preferred them to win it thirty to twenty six,
and you know, running away thirty to thirty to ten.

(07:24):
You know, it's it's you know, so many lessons you
can take out of that good win, especially you know
the defense in the second half. But you know road
Leagus about momentum's always going to change, and you know
the for the Warriors, you know, they won that game.
And I'm really really proud, and I'm sure that the
whole country and the whole fan base is really proud
about the young group of boys, how they turned up
for each other.

Speaker 8 (07:45):
At Magic Run.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
You had them score and what was it thirfty sixth
fifty eighth sixty third minute and you said you want
them to win like that you're a massacrest Lewis Brown.
But the fact that they managed to actually up and
defend four those last handful of minutes and not let
it slide. And you take into account what happened last year,
the amount of game they lost by between two and

(08:08):
six points was off the hook. So where did the
steel come from? What do you think projected to that
place where they could defend after having a healthy lead
then living it slide.

Speaker 9 (08:19):
Oh, just attitude, I think, you know, like a lot
of people don't really understand, but been on that line
and turning another team away that's had so much more
momentum for like you know, fifteen to twenty minutes. It
actually builds confidence and it builds energy, you know, like
it's it's you know stuff like that.

Speaker 8 (08:34):
You know, you know, a lot lot leading people in.

Speaker 9 (08:36):
It's it's a massive confidence builster, especially for a young
young core like that. And you know, they laid the
platform very very early, you know, and things were going
our way, you know, heading into halftime, We're looking good
until obviously dead and pinched one there next to the right,
next to the left hand upright, and you know it
was game on. You know the Cowboys that you know,
they've you know, no no lead is safe against this

(08:59):
Cowboys team. They've got strike pay everywhere, especially in attackmo
you know, drink water dead and he's a running half.

Speaker 8 (09:06):
We saw that in the weekend.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
And then you know, obviously we had some injuries and
then obviously Lukie so Kurk Cake well gets put in
the centers and they were really you know, really isolating
him out there. But you know that the boys around
him and himself did his job and they keep turning
enough for each other. So a massive confidence lifter, you know,
coming in coming as probably like you know outsiders as well.

Speaker 8 (09:26):
You know, people were calling US underdogs.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
But you know the way that Lukie Metcalf stood up,
and you know the way that him and Chanel really
complimented each other, the way that the way that way
Egan's going to about his work around the ruck, very
very smart.

Speaker 8 (09:41):
And then Aaron Clark Maye, like, you know, the kid
is a warrior, a junior warrior, and.

Speaker 9 (09:46):
You know he's come back to the club of a
point to prove and he's really doing that. I feel
like he's been a real buyer of the yegent, a
real buy of the season, and he's really fitting that.
You know, he's wearing thirteen, but he's ultimately playing that
utility role through the middle. And you know those those
stocky boys you know under five five, five eleven, you know,
one hundred killows and that's the tough to handle.

Speaker 8 (10:05):
And you know he's got good good ball schools.

Speaker 9 (10:07):
You know, obviously coming back you know background of a hooker,
and you know the way that he leads our line
speed and a kickchase as well, and he's really really
what I love about Aaron is the way he leads
the effort areas as well, kick chase mark a pressure
kick pressure et cetera like that. You know, that's that's
the small things that get us across the line. Now
are the small things that made us win in the weekend.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Man up, the next man, the next guy. And this
is something that the team struggled with last year, but
this year it seems to click and it's going to
be needed. Louis Brown, when you when you when you
look at the players that aren't there, I suppose that's
what gets us. You look at Dula mantone, Eleves Neck,
no Roger two of us a ship and no James

(10:47):
Fisher Harris, Yet the next guys have stood up. This
is going to happen again in the coming weeks because
Barry's gone down. We keep losing players to injury, but
there's something about the ability for the next guy to
stand up. How much of that is coaching and player management?
Do you think?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (11:04):
Massive?

Speaker 9 (11:04):
You know, we've also understand that Weby's had his hand
on the like his fingerprints on this team for was
it three years now, you know? So, so he's really
started to build the DNA and and and and that
team and and you know, also we've also got to
look at the success of our Harold Matt's and the
SG ball and and the Juicy flig and also the
reserve grade coming through at the big results there. You know,

(11:26):
anytime our club, you know, is going well in our juniors,
you know, it's it's a it's a great thing for
our whole club. We're starting to see the developments of
young players come through, you know, you know, look at Lequer,
you know, you you look at players that are coming
through that kind of that that system and the way
he's playing.

Speaker 8 (11:45):
No one wants to tackle him, no one wants the
bar of him in the NRL.

Speaker 9 (11:48):
And just really happy with the clubs, with the clubs out,
you know, we're just gone about our work. The boys
are a super humble bunch. They're led by a really
really humble captain of Mitch Barnett that you know, does
a lot of his work. You know, he's speaking with
his actions and you know, like you know, we've also
got you know, the origin period coming up soon. You know,
obviously I think Mitch would be a shore in there,

(12:09):
and obviously way way is you know, knocking on the door.

Speaker 8 (12:13):
So you know, hopefully we can pick up a few
wins through there as well.

Speaker 9 (12:15):
But yeah, just just the development of our players, our juniors.
I think it's we've got a great pathways system hidden
at the moment, obviously led by Andrew McFadden who's doing
a great job there. And yeah, the club's in a
really really good position and it really reflected you know,
and you can you can sort of also see the
you know, the the team, how the team are with

(12:39):
the confidence of our two young halves. You know, they're
both humble young halves, haven't had a hell of a
lot of experience, but boy did they turn Magic Runner
on its head.

Speaker 8 (12:47):
For sure they did.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Then in the background, you've got the likes of Tanner
boyd if he stays in Tom Martin, who are also there.

Speaker 8 (12:57):
Yeah, well we speak about tomati Martin.

Speaker 9 (12:58):
You know he goes back on Sunday players in New
South Wales cups and you know he has six six assistants.
Seven of the try is that the boys, the boys.
The boys scored in that big win they had on
Sunday over the Rooster. So the good sign about that too,
das is the attitude of a half that isn't get
an opportunity, that feels like he's been around for a while,
but to see him go back and have six assists

(13:20):
and a big win just shows the attitude of the group.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Is it too early to say it's our year? That
ms haunt every Warriors player past and present about saying that,
But there's a lot of momentum. But it is early
doors and is the NRL there's not even a guarantee
for the eight year right.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
Oh.

Speaker 9 (13:38):
I think you know, as as as fans were just
got to embrace it when we can. We know how
how turbulent the season of rugby league can be, the
ups and downs of it, the roller coasters. So you know,
while we're in this winning space and and and and
we're enjoying this, this good footy and this good brand
of footy that our team in DNA that our team has,

(14:00):
I think we just enjoyed it as a group.

Speaker 8 (14:02):
And and yeah, just if we lean into letting at
b a.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Year, let it be a year it from the biggest
names and sports and men. Have your say on oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty sports Talk or more on
your home of sports news talks at me.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
YEP. Absolutely love following the Warriors get overly excited one
second and terribly miserable the next. That's the joy of
following this team. They call it mercurial. That's because it
goes up and it goes down. Mercurial isn't great mercurial
mercury up and up and down. Just explaining if you

(14:37):
oh Diams for you So the ego oh eight, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty, that was Lewis Brown, that
former Kiwi, former Warriors. They're pretty involved with the team
on a number of different levels. Talking about the possibility
of the Warriors going further, he made a very interesting
comment during that interview. He said he would prefer to

(14:59):
win thirty twenty six and to run away with thirty ten.
Chew your fingernails. I took half my fingers off. Was
one of the scariest last fifteen seventeen minutes that to
deal with. But you gotta take your hat off to
a team that's been falling over far too frequently last

(15:23):
season in close run matches. They're not doing it.

Speaker 7 (15:29):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
They've been flogged a couple of times. And then as
I've gone to great pains to point out that's the NRL.
You're five percent off your game. You are going to
get flogged. That happens. But here is a team. Here
is a team that's developed a spine, not in the
sense of full back halves and a hook, I mean

(15:50):
develop a spine. They'll stand there and defend their line.
And yet of course he'd smashed himself up. Still doesn't
know what it is. I thought it was a collar bone,
but that was ro from the start of the game.
I mean, that was phenomenal. So dare we dream? That's
the question? And I know that, and we've got plenty

(16:12):
of tests going come once every year, but this year
is slightly different. This is slightly different. It started off
with a hiss and a roar, though without three of
their superstar players, three of their triple leader players. You
DWZ and your JFH and your RTS, they're not there.

(16:38):
The team busted up by Andrey Rocko Berry going in
and out. God, I feel sorry for that lad. This
team's got promise. So the question is not is it
our year? As far as winning the NRL Grand Final.
I've often said this, and I'll probably make no friends

(17:00):
at the Warriors, but I'm not here to make friends
of the Warriors. I think I will be long retire
before they win a title. It might be a case
of the Kronella sharks. It might be a case of
fifty years. How long would I be?

Speaker 3 (17:16):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (17:16):
My lord, yet way too old. At the moment, success
to me is hit the eight.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
Hit that.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't think they're going to win. I really don't do.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
Do you differ?

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Do you disagree? I No, make the eight. That's all
we can wish for at the moment, and that's what
I'm putting on them right now. Do you have bigger expectations?
And why lines are open? Oh, one hundred eighty ten eighty,
it's sevent twenty four the sports Talk on News Talks EBO.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
The right call is your call on Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty Sports Talk, call on your home of
Sports News Talk V, running out, running down of.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Ideas seventy seven Sports Talk, that's News Talks. The b
lines open eight hundred and eighty ten eighty three FO
number nationwide. I want to hear your voice. Don't argue
with me. Maybe I've been beaten down far too long.
And the tenure of the Warriors to dare have any
hope just in case it gets squatted. This this is

(18:43):
the nature of this team. They get you super excited
and then.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
They disappoint you the next moment.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I'm used to that now, so I don't expect them
to go any further the eight or even the four
wild expectations. Where do you go when you look at
the amount of changes they've had in this team, the
fact they haven't had three of arguing believe their biggest
names playing for a lot of this competition. It says

(19:14):
not only enormous amount about their relationship and the team
between the players and the love they have. I'll not
be getting a bit woo woo, but the love that
they have bit slowly but surely. What Angie Webster has
done last year was brutal. Yet they sold out every game,
but they stank the joint up, so would be very cautious,
especially after game one, to think why they might be

(19:36):
able to do something different. Well, they're doing it. Here's
the team. If you've just tuned in interesting names in
this team, let's hope it is, after all, only Tuesday.
There's a number of days to go yet before they play.
It's an away game, it's against Dragons, It's on Saturday.

(19:58):
The Warrior's team Chan Nickel Clerk's dad Star Chans Nickel
Cluksta Dunn Watenay's Ilesniak is back, Adam Pompey, Kurt Capel,
who's done so well when he has to come into
the centers, but out because they've got more broken down players,

(20:20):
tang to Ol Picky on the other wing, Chanelle Harris
de Vita and Luke Metcalfe metcalf turning into the star
turn right now in the halves, Jackson Ford weighed Eager
another star turn, and Mitch Barnett has been fantastic since
he's taken the captaincy over by himself. Laka Lassima Marata

(20:44):
near Cord, Aaron Clark, who's been a means I'm still
getting text about people thinking he is a bit average
quite short game you're watching, he's been a monster. So
that's the team. So it looks like dw z don
and Aleniak is going to be back at this stage.
Began to change bench Healley Laban, Lamonger R four, Martin

(21:11):
Boyd Star as Psmith, two of us as Sheck and
you're a mere Towather. We don't know what the team's
going to be like and it runs out on Saturday.
But there's a couple of signs there with DWZ and
RTS likely back. How good Top four to me is satisfying.

(21:34):
Top eight is bottom line. After the start they've got off,
winning's not going to happen eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
I'd love your engagement with this one. I've got lots
of text I can read those until my tongue falls
out of my mouth, but I'd rather hear from you.

(21:55):
What did you see from that game that suggests that
they can challenge not the eight but before. But I
suppose once you get to semi finals, anything can happen
on your day, right, he saw huge changes in the side.
We haven't got rock stars and hasn't upset the apple

(22:17):
cartn as Lewis Brown pointed out, he said, rather win
thirty twenty six than blow them out of the water,
which was what it was looking like up into the
fifty sixth minute. I think it was is when they
scored the first of their three tries. Fifty six fifty
eight sixty three is a stunner. But they showed some metal,

(22:43):
they showed some cuts, They showed a clean defensive line
that was hard to penetrate. And you go to those
three tries they scored, So what happened there? Well, they're
showing enough. Top Four's good for me, Darcy, Right, Steve,
don't get too excited about the Warriors were on the

(23:05):
eight games into the season.

Speaker 7 (23:07):
We all know.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
How they can go from hero to zero real quick.

Speaker 8 (23:11):
Ere we do.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But if you watch the team you support and you
don't get excited and revel in the success they have,
waven support them? Why follow them? This is part of
what I buy in when I can. I'm still doing

(23:33):
it up to twenty four years, leaping out of my
seat and going and waking my daughter up. That's that's
the journey you're on, and that's why you get there,
which is ultimately why you get so disappointed, because you
invest so much into the But like I've gone through
this a few times before, and by all means, feel

(23:53):
free to stop me in my monologue. You can do this.
Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. I will talk
right the way through late o'clock, given half a charter.
Oh okay, as Midicin just turns the volume up, that
shuts me up. That's fine. You've got to learn how
to follow a team that loses very few people follow

(24:15):
teams that win all the time. Winning's the rarity. Most
of the teams you follow are going to lose. They
are unless you're a Crusaders fan back in the day
of Manchester United fan. But that turns Penrith Panthers follow
them as a fan. How are you dealing with it now?

(24:36):
Where you have to because teams lose. I like the
look of this team. I like the look at the
next man up philosophy that we have. We not part
of a team. The next man up philosophy that they have.
That's as good coaching. Go one hundred and eighty, ten
to eighty. They've got enough to get to the four.

(24:56):
Right is that minimum after the start they've got off to.
I think it is. Let's pile some pressure on them.
Why not. We're fans. We can do what we want.
The news talk z B. You can tax them as well.
Nineteen ninety two. That is z B z to brefer
to hear from you, Hi on Darcy, you didn't.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Someone from me.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
I'm a dumble shotted wiskey. They know me ja down
down history. There's a party downtown here.

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Fifties everybody had barget, everybody had.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Seven.

Speaker 8 (25:48):
Everybody I've been balls, he said. I ain't changing.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Britt writes Darcy. I know you're totally obsessive over ball sports,
which I'm not, but thanks anyway. I'm more of an
obsession with Wiels on cars, so I know you're obsessed
with overball sports, but you might be interested to know
that we have six New Zealand women in the Volta Fein.

(26:17):
That's the women's Tour of Spain Saga race. It's just started,
including Olympic track star Alie Wallerstond. Be great if you
could speak to a local cycling commentator or one of
them to see what their expectations are. Brett, I will
find somebody from Felt Feme if I can. It's a
great watch these Grand Tour events male female. Thanks for that, Brett.

(26:44):
The Warrior's motto has always been still a mathematical chance
of being the playoffs keeps her expectations realistic. It does.
It's not really a Warrior's season until it becomes a
mathematical chance, right, yeah. True. The confidence of the coach,
writes Mars. To put that guy on towards the ends
about scored unbelievable trust in him. Sorry can't remember his name,

(27:08):
but he played Buddy Well. Sam Healey was his name
in the Sam Healey fang club. There too looked magnificent, resilience, grit,
stay in the fight, unity, synergy, compete happy. It's a
big one. No surrender.

Speaker 8 (27:24):
This is our year.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Thank you. Paul Is Steve, who's not really big fan
of Louis Brown. He said, it is another doozy like
Aaron Clark. I'm presuming doozy is an insult, does it?

Speaker 3 (27:37):
I know.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Aaron Clark's fantastic Magic Round. NRL should schedule the Wars
and the Bronx on the same day to ensure a
magic crowd, preferably the final game. Come on, bro back
into my arms, Jeff. I'm with you on that one.

(28:02):
It would be stunning. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
lines are open. Oh, I think I've had a breakdown
here on end Trevor, how are you?

Speaker 7 (28:17):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Are you mate?

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Ryan?

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Bouncing? But that's okay, right. You've got to be excited
when your team's doing well, because if you if you're not.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Of course you do.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
What's the point you don't know the future?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
No, yeah, of course you do.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
No.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
I just the Mega Round was magic. It was just
you know, if you're a rugby league fan, I mean,
you just have to be wrapped on what you saw.
I mean that I don't know who you saw that
Peppin House on that try that is good from that
kick from that winger was just outrageous.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
No, I didn't. He's an outrageous player. Sorry, there was
so much going on over the weekend I picking.

Speaker 3 (28:48):
But anyway, Yeah, well, you know, Warriors ain't my team
because I find the narrow for long, you know, before
they come in and there. But what I'm liking about
the Warriors, and I've always said this in rugby league
and I know other sports, it's staunch. They played so
staunch the other day it was you know, I reckon
it was a two the team and I reckon when
you say, and I know some people are going to

(29:09):
say they're stupid, but when you see players like rat
and Nkora Jacks and Ford Wade Egg and Aron Clark,
they play damaged, played hurt. But they of course he
did and.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I think five minutes into the game and he just
carried only did the full eighty was toward the endybody's
looked like his arm would fallen off.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
No, you did right, And you know what, I think
Cars has players to do that. Like you know, Ed
has always been a really promising power, but it's a
hard tide to crack into. And he knows that he
has to do it. And people say, oh, yes, you've
got to play with but he knows that. You know
that would rate so highly in the coach's book about
him playing injured and doing what he done, and he

(29:52):
probably has to play like that because he's not a
walk up for the team. He knows that he has
to get him the team somehow. And I just reckon
the staunchness the Warriors are showing since since round one.
I just reckon it's very, very promising.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
And I don't think they drift in defense watching that,
and I'm looking at the way they don't overplay their
hand defensively and they keep quite a rigid line. So
you've got this, and they trust their insides and they're
outside players. Now you get trust an ability through knowing
and they're your friends and you will do that for them.

(30:30):
It's and that's how you can bring a next guy
in to the next guy, and they keep filling up
the gap next man. It doesn't matter, he'll do that job,
and that says a lot about the inter relationships between
the team members. Out.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Yeah, he did right, and I think chance Nicol Contatt
has got a lot to do with that. I mean,
you know, he's just been resigned, but I just think
he's a he's a quick worker, but I just think
that he reads and yelps at the players in front
of them, and I just think he's a he's a
key part that. I mean, they good enough to win,
probably not that, but definitely top four, probably top.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Four probably what we do. So that's a that's a
wind for Trevor and I have the hit top four.
We're hoping very early that yet I know that, but wow,
they're sitting third. This is for the text, are right?
Thank you? Ants what to like? I'm unrepentant in my

(31:27):
support at the moment. Staunch, good on your Trevin tough.
It's the Black Night all over again. Chop my legs off.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
We're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm gonna bleed on you. Up next, another tough guy
Finny called her career. His name is Bryce Heen. He
joins his next hour on news talks. Heb were sorry

(31:58):
for this bloke. He's got a cup of Warriors, Blues,
Nazi Pro, East Coast and Blackpool. Fine, right, let's move
on now to he's retired today, he joins us.

Speaker 7 (32:09):
Now, Hi, Bryce, Hey mate, how are you going?

Speaker 2 (32:12):
I'm going? Well, what about yourself? Yeah, put a cap
on our long career of rugby today you'd be breathing
any regrets. You're still quite happy with that call?

Speaker 7 (32:23):
No, I'm very happy.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
I'm very happy, quite content, And yeah, I got a
young family and you know, I got lots to look
forward to be on retirement.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
What was the driver? What was the tipping point we
needed to go?

Speaker 8 (32:35):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (32:36):
I'm done.

Speaker 6 (32:37):
It's actually the injury because it's a bit of a
funny one. You know, it's a risk injury, but there's
just a lot of things going on inside of my wrists,
and it's a lot of it's pre existing, and then
there's some acute injuries and basically last last year NBC,
there's a lot to try and push through in terms
of pain and all that sort of stuff. And I
was taking pain killers to get through trainings and through games,

(32:59):
and the surgery I was going to need to try
and fix it wasn't guaranteed to fix it, and so
there was just a lot of I guess, gray area
around the whole thing. And yeah, I guess I thought
I'd had a good run. I mean, fourteen years of
professional footing and got to win a title last year,
which was awesome, and so yeah, I don't really have
any regrets when I look back on my career, and

(33:20):
just thought it was good timing, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
So you nursed this right the way through summer and
then the realization the dawning. Was there a particular moment
where they went, look, this is not going to work. Possibly,
we don't know. Was there any trigger moment there or
just a slow development?

Speaker 7 (33:37):
Yeah, no, I guess there was a trigger moment.

Speaker 6 (33:39):
It was just back and forth conversations with the specialists
really and yeah, just no real guarantees that any of
the surgeries would work, and one thing guaranteed to work
was a partial fuse of some kind and then obviously
with the partial fuse lose a lot of range and
things like that, also a long recovery as well. Wish

(34:01):
i'd missed the miss the season with So, like I
said before, to make the decision to retire wasn't that
hard in my.

Speaker 7 (34:10):
Hand, was kind of forced. I guess no pun intended.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Well it came out like that. You're looking back at
your career, you said fourteen years what you started things
off with Auckland. I think it was what two and ten,
and then you bounce all over the show but a
northern bit of Tasburn but the Chiefs. But Auckland went Overseas,
went to Worcester, went too long, came back, played for

(34:33):
the Blues. It was just endless bouncing around. That keep
you interested, wouldn't it.

Speaker 6 (34:38):
Yeah, yeah it did, and yeah I loved it. You know,
I met so many cool people along my journey, and yeah,
I guess bouncing around has its pros and cons. You also,
been away from family isn't always easy, but then yeah,
the people you meet and the you know, the eventure
you go on, there's just one to be to be enjoyed.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
I guess.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
I mean that's how I always looked at it when
I was moving around, and yeah, I loved every bit
of it.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
When you look back, you managed to get international representation.
You played for New Zealand and seven side what you
picked up a silver back in twenty fourteen in Glasgow.
The fact you didn't go one step further, any resentment
there at all or no.

Speaker 7 (35:21):
Not really.

Speaker 6 (35:21):
I guess, you know, I guess those sort of decisions
you have to make when you plan footy and whatnot,
And I guess I played a lot of sevens when
I was a bit younger and then got a good
offer to go overseas after being in the Chiefs for
only a year, and I just thought, you know, it
took me a little while to get here to the Chiefs,
and who knows if i'll even you know.

Speaker 7 (35:41):
Get an opportunity to go to that next step.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
And I knew that I always wanted to go travel,
and then so did my wife, so you know, we
just decided, you know, let's go do it and have
a noe. And to be honest, I'm glad I did
it before we had kids and all that sort of stuff,
because you know, the travel and the overseas experiences is
different when you have those little ones. So yeah, I

(36:04):
don't know if I can look back at it with
any any regret in terms of, you know, trying to
get that next step. I'm pretty happy that I came
back to New Zealand and you know, played played some
good footy and competed with the best of them, and
probably you you know that maybe if I was a
bit younger, i'd probably you know, be thereabouts. So I'm

(36:25):
pretty pretty happy and pretty content, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
You're O from Worcester. You had a great time of
it over there, didn't you. You had seventy odd appearances,
you scored a bucket full of try so it really
appealed to you that that way of life and what
Wester brought to you. What was it about playing for
Worster that that made you play so well?

Speaker 6 (36:46):
Bryce, Jeez, I don't know, I just really I guess
I learned a lot at the Chiefs too under Dave
Rennie and and you know, Wayne Smith was in there
as well, and I guess, you know, they just opened
my eyes to a different way of playing and way
of seeing the game as well, which I guess just
educated me a bit more, especially after playing sevens for

(37:07):
so long, and then off the back of that going
into wards the.

Speaker 7 (37:13):
I guess I just really enjoyed my footy, enjoyed ben overseas.

Speaker 6 (37:17):
It's I guess a fresh start and with you know,
a bunch bunch of great, great people. Really it was,
I know, yeah, a combination of things like this.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You played your last pro game in Super Rugby and
walked off with a title. Talk about satisfaction. I mean,
you can't control that narrative, but you've got a lot
back and go. Yes, and it was against your old team,
the Chiefs, but a bit of sweetness in there, Bryce.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
Yeah, Yeah, you're right. Couldn't couldn't have I guess ritten
up any better myself, And in hindsight, I didn't know
that it was going to be the end. I was hoping,
you know, to check the boots on at least for
one more year and and go again and hopefully get
back to backs. But you know, the way it ended,
it was. It was, Yeah, I guess, a lot of
sweetness there, and that season or that final, I guess

(38:13):
was a pretty convincing win and just a real good
statement on the end of that season, and I guess
a bit of a rollercast right off the blues of
making finals and losing and things like that, and then we.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Finally finally did it, And I guess at that time,
I didn't know that was going to be the end,
but yeah, I look back at it now and just, yeah,
it was.

Speaker 6 (38:34):
It's great to have that to look back on there
and to have I guess ticked that off as an achievement,
and you.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Booking the dream PC career as well, I believe playing
well for Auckland up north.

Speaker 6 (38:48):
Yes, yes, yes, so I played for the New Zealand
Barbarians versus the the Maori or black Back in twenty
ten I think it was. And yeah, that's that was
up in Northland and that's that's where I played my
last game as well, So that's pretty cool as well.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
I guess it seemed to work out one last thing
for you, Bryce Seman, thanks so much for sharing your
time in thoughts with us. How are the Blues going
to go this year? Do you reckon the Chiefs have
got their number? Because this year the competition has been wild, bro.
I'm sure we've been enjoying it, although you might have
been a bit jealousy not out there playing, but the
Blues aren't having a good time. Who do you like

(39:28):
to take away the chocolates at the end?

Speaker 7 (39:31):
Geez?

Speaker 6 (39:32):
Yeah, I guess the whole conference is fairly tight, and
I guess that game at the weekend, you know, the
Hurricanes played bloody well against a good Chiefs side. You know,
I know they were Chiefs were missing a couple of players,
but still, you know, I guess it goes to show that,
you know, any team on their day can can come
out on top. You know, I still haven't ridden the
Blues off. You know, they've got a special place in

(39:54):
my heart. And they had a good win at the weekend.
Even though it wasn't that pretty, it was still a
win and they got three games left to nail it
out and iron out all those creases. So let's well,
I hope they can.

Speaker 7 (40:08):
They can do it and get back to where we
were last year.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
For the TMO, we've got the breakdown on Sports Talk
News Talk.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
Bryce Heim there, the retiring Bryce Heme after fourteen years
as a professional rugby player. What a thoroughly nice man.
Really enjoyed talking to Bryce, dude. And I think the
last thing you do in your rugby career is won
a title with the Blues that they haven't won in
fifteen generations. Well that's a little over the top, but

(40:42):
you know what I mean, A great way to go out.
Sad to see him leave. It's almost time to pack
up my troubles and my old kit bag and get
out of Dodge it's just run through a couple of
quick texts for you all, and thanks very much for
texting the show. Hey, I don't believe I've heard anyone
use the word wise this year. The Warriors in this building.

(41:09):
In this building, there is one person who will remain
nameless because not entirely fair. And the way they talk
is that every second sentence that comes out of the
mouses up the wise, it's almost like a way of
saying hi, or how are you? Or get a or
how's your night going? Or can you make me up?
The wars So that's still there. Now, that's not you

(41:29):
n's melicitic.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
No, we can rule me out.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Yeah good, we can rule you out. Yep, we can
rule Marcus lush out.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
Uh huh.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
That leaves Darcy. What have you heard about christ Church
making a play for the Magic round twenty twenty seven
when the current contract and Brisbane expires. I tell you, Chris,
that would sell so well for a couple of reasons.
It's the brad new statium. Everyone wants to go to that,

(41:57):
all right. It's got a roof, it's not going to
be rained out and unlike the other roof. God bless
you to Needen. There's hotels in christ Church and I
wrecked international flight to the airport. It's only a thirty
dollars uber, right, I think Wilsons, I've been there. Love
the way the Warriors are playing it this year, writes
another different to previous years second half of the seasons

(42:20):
where they go down now, but I feel they are
top sixteen for sure. I'll come on Agel four. Split
it white, don't you? Taylor Reckons. It's Mike Hoskin who
walks around and sang up the wires.

Speaker 6 (42:34):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
I don't know because we are ships on the night.
I'd never see Mike one earth in the morning. It's
not roll out just to kick Okay, they start rolling
them out yet my happy days. It's it's like that,
wouldn't he. I'm out and thanks for producing the program.
Thanks for all of you are paying attention and giving me.

Speaker 8 (42:57):
Your ears the worse.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
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