May 22, 2025 • 42 mins
D'Arcy Waldegrave returned to wrap another day of sports news! Highlights for tonight include:
Auckland FC goalkeeping coach Jonathan Gould ahead of their semifinal against Melbourne Victory
Talkback: if Auckland FC somehow lose - will that throw away all the goodwill they've built up this season or not?
Scott Dixon ahead of the Indy 500.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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apply to guess on this evening's program. Toward the end
(00:58):
of the show, Scott Dixon makes an appearance on the
show that I am his number one fanboy and sadly
him I've got his phone number and won't leave him alone.
But he's such a generous man, generous of spirit and time,
and he always gives me ten fifteen minutes or so
before the Indy five hundred, which is fantastic. Really looking
(01:20):
forward to lesting back to this again. I had to
chat with Scott this morning. Crawled out of a scratcher
when he rang, well, oh god, do it now straight away?
Another massive event for him. I think it's just twenty
third running of the Indy five hundred. It's ridiculous, it's wow. Anyway,
we'll talk to him about all sorts you can take
(01:40):
a listen on in around about half an hour or
thirty five minutes time. We're going to talk football first up,
because the NDY five hundred is massive on early hours
of Monday morning for a lot of people. But you'd
argue the biggest game over the weekend here in New
Zealand anyway is Leg two as AKFC host Melbourne v
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three League one up one zip. There's a chance to
qualify for the finals. And she's all on on Saturday
afternoon slash evening and to talk about that. Jonathan Gold
joins us. Spend time with the Phoenix he's the goal
keeping coach, a lot of time with Alex Paulson, and
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talk to him about the preparation for the game, what
they have to avoid, what they have to lift and
run with. How about the fear of loss? Does that
haunt these players or not? How do they work that through?
Plenty to talk about anyway, Jonathan joins us shortly and
then all you mad football fans can celebrate the joy
of football. Talk to us about your confidence, talk to
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us about if you're much more in tune with the
vagaries of the game, what has to happen and what
Auckland FC have to do because it's all on now.
The weights of New Zealand football is on their shoulders.
Can they get it done or they be crushed by
expectation one hundred and eighty ten eighty to take your
calls on that. But before I of that, I give
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you a clue. What about something like this today? It's
like a boll one casey Frankie form a tool way
I can't break it. And now the NBL spokesperson believes
that the departure of the Panthers from the league will
leave bills paid and no violence in the streets.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Just like any other business that is not living up
to its financial obligations.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There's a process to be followed. Fortunately for me in
my old age, that process does not include me bringing
a baseball pat around.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
These are lines I never ever thought I'd hear from
any spokesperson about anything ever. But you've got to give
them credit for saying that is it in the small print.
If you don't pay your bills, we're going to beat
the snot out of it. Yeah. Street Justice seven's Queen
George Miller will play open site for the Black Ferns
against USA on SAT today. She wants to go to
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the Rugby World Cut the Women's Rugby World Cup. But
if not, like seven's are sweet.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
It's obviously tough for the fifteenth group for sevens players
to just jump in an out. So we want to
put our hand up and we want to push the group.
We want to be in that group. But if we're not,
we're pushing the others around us. So I think that
there's so many benefits that come with that.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think everybody's pushing everybody else. And the tweaks made
in the team throughout Pack four. Looking ahead to the
naming of that side, I'd say most of them would
be on Tinda Hook's wondering if they get picked or not.
There are some classy athletes in there, Mistress coach I
tell when it is parked. Other Ossie imported Danelle Wellham.
(04:50):
She's been more than adequate as a replacement for Grace Wicket.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
We're loving having Nelly.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
She's been a real great addition to our team.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
She's got a super cool personality.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
She's a beautiful person and I get a great vibe
in terms of what she does within the team, and
she's she's done really well, So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Awesome Nelly came up to the studio a couple of
weeks ago. Top women, no doubt about that. Good to
see her settling into light in Auckland and the Dallas
Stars have taken game one and the NAHL Western Conference Finals.
They beat the Oilers six three, and then they beat
them with sticks final five seconds of a remarkable Now
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the Skirvish, etcetera ace. Of course, it's written in the
stars and that's football now. It became huge game, massive game.
Can the Auckland Football Club overcome the threats of victory?
They have got a nose in front, They've got one
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foot in the door. What's a funny old game, though,
it doesn't take much to turn the table strong as
you come this year, clean sheet after clean sheet from
Alex Paulson. A man pastly responsible for there is Jonathan Gord.
He's the goalkeeping at coach and he's a good man.
I've got to say. He joins us now to talk
about preparations, to talk about fear, to talk about Alex.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Paulsen, to talk about football.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Good evening, Jonathan, good evening. How you doing. I'm doing
very well. More's the point. What are you guys? How
are you doing. How are you carrying this? This is
getting more and more intense, surely with every passing day.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
It was intense to swarning when we were watching Ange
win it for Tottenham that much. And I think when
you watch those moments and having had the one where
we took the plate out, you kind of dream of
the next one and you understand what those guys are
going through having you know, you go through so much
as a as an athlete and as a coach.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Winning is everything.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You've got to compartmentalize, though, don't you. I'd suggest I
don't know what your theories are around That's how much
of last week's came the first leag do you guys
carry into League two?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think you carry a lot of it, given how
how we sort of operated on the night. You know,
the performance that the lads gave in you know, the
effort that went into the the game, into the preparation,
in into the ninety three four or five minutes that
we played. You know, even the emotion I think of
it in the inside of the post twice where a
second goal makes it, you know, give us a real
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bit of daylight.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So you go through all those emotions after.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
The game and then you know, Steve's analyzed them with
the players over the last couple of days. But I
think it's more of the same. It's the it's you've
got to go with the same attitude. You've also got
to go with an attitude that you're you're not just
holding on to one goal, You've got the ability to
go and extend that and that I think there's got
to be ours. I've you know, I've played in a
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Championship promotion game when brad when I was at Bradford
and we got beat by Blackpool two nil in the
in the first leg at home and then Blackpool had
ordered the coaches for Wembley. They were singing and dancing
and and you know two nil we turned it round
three too. So you know, there's there's there's always a
moment in the game that it could swing on. And
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and I think, you know, like one mill up and
you you're going to I personally believe that you defend
harder than you are you do when you're two nil up.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You're not going to park a bus, though, are you.
You're going to go on a similar thought process. You're
going to play the game you play.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, you know, and like I said, Steve, Steve spoke
to this one and we've looked at the way that
we've we've been able to unhinge them at times away
from home. You know that their attitude will have to
be they've got to come and open the game up
very very quickly, and that kind of should help us
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on the current attack. And what we spoke to about
today was really about how more effective we can be
on the counter attack.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You can't predict what they're going to do, though, can you,
because that just opens up all sorts of cans of worms.
So you've got to understand where they might be coming
from that. You can't put that on them too, to my.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Right, no, but you can predict that they've got to
be positive. And when you play positive football, you also
leave space. And that's what we have to try and exploit.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Who becomes the most important in that exploitation role.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Of the person that wins that trat first transition, the
player that can get that first pass off and then
and then when we can pick that pass that you
know that we've got the pace up front to actually
hurt the opposition. It's so there's you know, there's three
or four moments really and it's and it all starts
from our structure behind the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
How do you address the maybe nerves, the good news,
the anticipatory nerves, all the all the bad news. Because
I'm doing this job far too long. Jonathan been talking
to athletes and some just go, it's a fresh game,
it's new. I'm doing this and I'm excited. I'm going
to carry that excitement and other players are like, I'm
freaking out. But that actually propels me. Is there a
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general group attitude or the end of victuals do their
own thing? How does that actually work in the build up?
I'm sure it's very personal.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, I think it is personal.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I remember Alex saying to me a couple of weeks
ago before a game, I'm nervous, and I said to him,
I says, that's a good thing. Says that means you've
got an edge about you. Other nerves, like players can
show in different ways. But I think you know, our
probably job as a coaching group is to keep keep
that intensity away until it's really needed on the day.
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I think you go through the week where there's too
much of that. I think that can then overspill the
adrenaline over spills and it can sometimes go the other way.
So it's really important that that we've kept training very purposeful,
but not overtly intense.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You don't want to be over stimulated, do you, and
leave it all on the training pack. It's not when
you want to win the game.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That talk about the shadow of loss. It's quite fascinating
to me. Maybe I'm a very negative human or not,
but you're not gonna when every tournament you play. You're
not gonna win every game you go into. Do you
guys talk much about like leaning into the concept of loss.
Has it got a place or not? No?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't think it gets talked about. But I'd be
lying if I said you don't think about those moments.
And again I can only speak from personal experience. When
I was coaching at Middlesbrough and we were in the
semi final to get to Wembley to get into the
Premier League, and we were playing aston Villa and you know,
we'd lost the first game I think one neil and
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so we had to be very very positive, got picked
off by a very good villity and you walk off
the field, you walk into the dressing room, the manager
will say his peace, and then you're gone for the
next six weeks. You don't really speak to anybody because
that's the end of the season. And that's the very
finite thing about playoff football, and that's I suppose that's
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kind of that's what you clearly don't want to happen,
but that's how it does happen, very very very quickly.
On the other side of it is if you come
out and you've won the game at the weekend, you've
got an incredible build up then to a Grand Final
and that's again that's that's about further, that's about supporters,
and that's about excitement as to what's on the other
side of a potential victory there, which would be quite
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an historic occasion in football, for football in this country.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Jonathan Gold, When you lift alone for that six seven weeks,
does it get a dressed much by by I'm sure
that psychology within the team is huge now in professional sport.
But then lift to just I suppose sit there and
steam not helpful. What do you guys do in that space?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, that depends which way it goes, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, yeah, no, when you're sitting in there going oh
my god, we got knocked out and the coach balls
you out and he walks out the door, and you go,
what I'm gonna do now?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, well you just you kind of accept it in
that moment.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think you probably stew on it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, and then I suppose it's when you walk back
back in the door at the at the start of
the next season. It's it's where your focus is and
what you want to achieve. And you know, you've got
to remember, I think you know in this league, ha
many teams. We've got twelve thirteen teams. Every team starts
a season thinking that it will win the Grand Final.
All the supporters thing that way. So you know, that's
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how we have to think. And our challenge will probably
be be next year as much as it is this year,
because the second seasons is always the hardest and that's
their one fifth.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's something that I've already.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Spoken about, is how we're going to make sure that
the targets are there, that the desire is there from
us first of all as coaches, and then make sure
that translates to the players.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
How much de lean on Dan Hall, it's quite a
damn hand at winning everything, isn't he? I mean, after
last year, I think he picked up three boxes of chocolate,
so coupably the year before that. How instrument was his
experience within this Well.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Again, if you go go to his character and his personality,
he's one of those guys that trains plays very, very
intensely in his moments. But there's also this laid back
is not the right word, but he's got a character
that everybody bounces off. He's fantastic to have around, and
he's been kind of the epitome of what we've we've
probably achieved thus far in the season. And and like
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you say, his experience, it's been invaluable. And if you
look at his last five or six, I don't know
how many it is. He and I sat down the
other day, so how many of you were now on
the banks, and it must be it must be around
five or six consecutive trophies that have been on offer
other than the FA Cup FFA Cup this year because
we couldn't play in it anyway. But if you think
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we won the Trouble, he's taken one away this season,
and then what comes what comes after after the next weekend,
it could be an incredible run for three different teams.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Crazy you're in charge of the goalkeeping coach. Saved me
a lot a lot of time with Alex Paulson, and
hopefully he's gotten rid of what happened. I think it
was yesterday a year ago anyway with the Phoenix. But
what he's done now, the way he's managed to leave that,
dismissed that break his rear vision mirrors off and then
carry on his form this year has been astonishing. What
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do you put that down to, not only within himself,
but with what your contributed, because you have a part
of this Jovian.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, I think I think there's always been a really
solid relationship with Alex and I very open in the
last three or four years. I obviously worked with him
at the Phoenix when he was coming through there, but
ultimately it comes from from within himself.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
We you know, on a daily basis, we have to
do technical work. We have to make sure that he's ready,
we prepared for the strikers he's coming up against. But
you can't work people, and you can't coach people with
unless they've got that open inner drive and Aps has
been exceptional and that one of the first things that
he mentioned when he came he said, Look, he said,
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last year, I didn't win anything. We had a really
good season, but I've got this year. I want to
win something. And there we've had little gentle reminders all
through the season about really what this year was about.
He set himself a target of more clean sheets than
he had last year. I think the one just gone
made it thirteen. I think that beat him up beat
his last year total equaled it. So now we're going
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to set us right. Can you go again with the
clean sheets? If he keeps two more clean sheets, it'll
be a phenomenal, phenomenal record. But they are things that
he set himself and he wants to win, and he's
shown that in the way he's performed. And we've got
two big, big games to go.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
He pulled out a couple of snorters last week, which
is good. But of course he can keep like you
wouldn't believe. He's a magician. But without the mean in
front of him, it kind of becomes pointless. That relationship enormous.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, we talked about that a lot as a goalkeeping group,
about relationships about you know, the information that he's got
to give to his two center backs, his relationship with
his right back when the balls coming down our right
hand side and even with his six and how communication.
You know, you consider yourself doing a good job really
if you haven't had much to do in a game,
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because that means part of what you do, which is
provide sort of tactical information as someone who can see
the whole pitch. If you've done that job, then you've
got less to do. And I think that's a maturity
thing as well, and that's something you know different from
last year. You know that he clearly had a lot
to do at the Phoenix in moments and we were
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a different setup and he's had really big saves to
make for us this year.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
There's John Goulder, goalkeeping coach for Auckland if C, ahead
of arguably the biggest game of football in New Zealand
this year. I don't think you can go much further.
Got the Melbourne victory. It's coming up Saturday six pm.
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That game kicks off one knill up. Got the advantage
in the tie and I was talking to Jason Pine
about this because I was a little unsure. Overheard someone
at the pub talking about it. There is no away goals,
that doesn't matter, it's just aggregate it's all of us.
So if they score back and then that's it, then
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they got to go to extra time and then they're going
to go to penalty shootouts. All that heartbreaking stuff promises
so much great to have Jonathan on the program. How
important is this for the and this sounds like a
bit over the top, obviously very important for the club,
very important for the ALA. You don't turn up out
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of nowhere and suddenly start warning trophies unless you're these guys,
and you do. And I talked to Jonathan about leaning
into failure and professional sports people probably don't think like that.
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There are some that do, but it's accepting and understanding
that as a sportsperson or as a sports team, losing
is a dominant part of what you do. You don't
win everything, only one personal one team wins, that's it.
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So if they can't win, which is what a lot
of teams do, they fluff their lines, they blow it,
they're not the best. Does that undo all the good
work of this year? Because they've done enormous amount of
good work this year for football in New Zealand. So
if they bottle it, does that undo everything they've done?
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Can you accept that? Because like life is losing, isn't it,
and you need to accept that and run with it.
I hope they don't, but it's one of those realities.
So will this undo a loss? Will that undo all
of the good work? I don't think it will. I
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think people will still be cheering from the rafters. Is
first time out. Look what they've done. So fine. If
they're listening, I'm really sorry. Oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty lines are open, and someone wants to
know why I'm ruining my award winning program by talking
about football and racing. I'd use the word award pending
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because it's been a couple of years since we've won
any awards. You want award winning radio Jason Pine over
the week and there you go. There's this news Talks EB,
Your course coming up next, Our eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty seven sports talk on Newstalks EB, Scott
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Dixon not so far away, knocking Indy same Henrid. We're
talking football now though, huge game coming up on Saturday evening,
stroke afternoon, not quite sure where it's six o'clock whatever.
If Auckland AC can't get the job done, will that
take away anything that they've achieved so far this year.
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I've got one text very suxtinct no, and another text
says and I think, well, Derek's join us next. I'll
tell you what, Derek, do you want to answer this
text for me? Mate?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Go on?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What's the point of having the no away go rule
a goal rule and playing two legs home and away
should just be one match home ground advantage to the
higher place team that's from Brent. What do you reckon?
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Well, there's something funny that away goals rule was born
in the nineteen sixties in Europe because that there was
a team edge Malart, who's actually funny enough in the
final in the Champions League final this year yet to
be played, and they used to. They had a manager
called Alena Herrera back in the early sixties and he
was under the impression with his tactics that one goal
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was enough to win the tight home and away just
one goal. So you can imagine what the the away
tie was going to be like when Enter Milan had
to travel away from the San Sero, they would have
everyone behind the ball they caught it. I think the
Italian wit is concitio, which is that means some kind
of barrier, and so they decided double. Yeah, so you
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could go that, you could go forward, and all of
a sudden, getting an away goal became quite a quite
a big thing because in the event of a draw,
away goals count double. But yeah, like because the wayfoot
was being played at the moment, with the likes of
Guardiola's teams and Klops teams, they are all so such
flamboyant attacking side that there's not this, there's not this
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holding on anymore at home? Sorry, holding on away and
then trying to finish the job at home.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Sorry, When did.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
They stopped this? And this is a global thing to
FIFA coming and saying no more. Is it just a
different league? What's that about?
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I think they I think Yuefa actually who brought it,
And I think they're thinking about stopping it. They'd have
stopped it, they just haven't done it in the A League.
I don't think they need to. The A League is
quite an open it's quite an open competition. Really, there's
not that much. Look, I could turn around and say
the defenses aren't that good, but often they're so. You've
been like a rocket the back that this year they're
back four. I mean, they've got a guy Dan Bernie's
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twenty six to the restaurant right up to thirty twenty
nine to thirty thirty five. They're experienced pros, they're tough guys.
In this Melbourne victually side. Of the last three matches
they've played, they've been unable to find their net against
against Alex Pulson or to get past the back.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
For I think I mentioned to Jonathan about the relationship
between that four and how important that is. A pulsim
of that communication and him saying, well, look, if you
hear nothing from Alex the whole game, it's a good
thing because he's told has defenders exactly what to do.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Most of the communications are back. Like I've been to
every game except every Homegome, of course, except for the
two Wellington games. I was n't able to get a
check it. We'll sold out so quickly, and I'm not
a season ticket holder, but I've got my I've obviously
got my ticket for Saturday and I'm really looking forward
to it. In fact, I know a lot of people
have got tickets for both Saturday and Sundays. Something enough
Aukland to see who are really enjoying the atmosphere a
(24:28):
smart even if it's Awk, theft Sea or the Warriors,
they don't really care. They just thoroughly having a great
time and it's a.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Cuddle of a place. If it's going well, if it's
cold and where it's not and there's no one there,
it's absolutely horrible, Derek. If they can't get the job
done and bottle it, which I don't think they will.
Does that track from anything they've done this year? Or
are we fully focused on victories the only way?
Speaker 8 (24:51):
No, I don't think so. I think at the moment
the atmosphere is more why a lot of people are
thoroughly enjoying it. Yeah, look, we all want to win.
We all want our teams to win. We've all got
these clubs that we follow and we're going to I mean,
look at Spurs supporters. I mean, for goodness, they've gone
like forty two years from they won the league was
ninety sixty one. Actually that was the ear was born.
So I see, I'll tell you right now. They just
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some teams just don't get any support. I remember when
west Ham United came in and played the Eaton Park
with Tamian. It was the last time they ever won anything,
yet they had massive amount of crowds. That was in
New Zealand, for goodness sake. So some clubs just appealed
to the messes, don't I don't know whether you said
that with the Warriors. They haven't won the premiership yet
they're so popular both here in Australia. You've seen it
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last year where they were winning like forty percent of
their games. They were selling in every single home game.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well, if you follow a team purely to watch them win,
your nuts. Because teams I mean unless you you know
Manchester United back in the day that the Crusaders did
it for a while. But generally it's not about the
victory the defeat. It's about following the team and being
part of that club. I made the mine was an
Everton fan and Everton came to christ years ago and
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he stood on the on the bank and he beat
himself up to make them feel at home.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Look, the fact of the matter is let's concentrate on
this game. That's that's happening on Saturday. If you look
at that that Auckland side will they're strong at the back.
They've got two wingers they play in every game and
they like to hit them early, these wingers, and they've
got two wingers on the bench, which they normally bring
after an hour. And I might also point out that
this Jirillimo may this player from Uruguay, he's the best
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attacking player in the league. I don't know what sort
of contract he's got. I don't want sort of money
the club's playing him, but he's worth every penny. He
can create, he can score goals, he can play further forward,
he can drop back in a midfield. Everything revolves around
this guy. And I was absolutely astonished that no one
in this league has decided to do a man for
man marking job on them, or really give him a
hard time physically. He just seems to bounce away from
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tackles and the crowd when he gets hold of the
ball and he switches the ball onto that left but
the crowd just gets up out of their seat because
he's such an exciting player. Look, the club does play
exciting football, but I might point out that the ground
that they played on in Melbourne for that one Nill
victory was a bit of a cow paddock and this
this Melbourn victory. So I'd like to play fast, exciting
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passing football. Now they will enjoy that at Mount Smart
because Mount Smart is a fantastic service. It's flat as
a pancake. It's like a bowling green and I can
tell you right now they're going to enjoy playing there.
So one goal might not be enough for me. I
think it's going to be a very exciting finish and
I don't think it's going to be any top of
a cape wall. I think Auckland's going to have to
be their very best. Should they lose, It's still going
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to be a great season, but it will still leave
a little bit of a hollow feeling, I think for
the hardcore football fans, but for the people that have
been going along to enjoy the atmosphere, this is going
to be such a great night of fun football, all
sorts of shouting going on. It's going to be great.
And I hope it goes down to a penalty shootout
because well I know about.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
A penalty shootout. That is scary. I don't know if
we want that. But yeah, they played. It was an
absolutely swamp last week. Enough already Scott next in sooner
rather than later. Take a couple more of your calls
and text as well. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
I'm going to track from this season if Auckland FC
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can't get it done, what are your recking? Shouldn't do?
Shouldn't it's a sports talk we look at you. You're
taking me?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Would you name.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Sports talking news talk Darcy. I'm loving his show with
football and moderating and no rugby, don't you? Thanks John?
And a massive fomo from one of our other listeners
who went to last is Indy five hundred three days
of Madness the incredible place that is a bucket list.
(28:46):
But I'm terrified of going to the States just for
the minute. Good Glenn, how are you?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Jan?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Winning is everything, whether a cindividual or a sports team.
Here it's only one winner, and that is life, winners
and losers. As spoken by New Zealand's best sports presenter,
Darcy water Grade.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Don't you say that? I didn't.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Everything's going on there. So here come a couple a
few weeks ago there was some homeschooled student that won
some pretty major event, but they wouldn't give him the
winning prize because he was homeschooled and that was not
educated through the mainstream going to school and these those
(29:38):
children at school that taught like, no, you don't have
to win, you'll get a price. You'll you know, you
come to fifteen or eighteen fifty first, No, you get
this thing here and the winner doesn't get recognized. So
obviously winning is not everything in this country where.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I think that Glenn, that most people have got the
horse power, especially kids, to recognize that you play to win,
that's the object. If you're not trying to win, there's
no point in playing these no energy behind me. But
if you don't win, it's not the end of the
world because more often than not you are going to lose.
And if you can't deal with that, you shouldn't play
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the game because it'll crush you mentally. Right.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh, I don't know winning is everything, boy Darcy water Grace.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But yeah, I didn't say winning was everything. Winning is.
Winning is wonderful. Winning, that's what you aim towards, that's
what you do. But if you don't, it's not the
end of the world. It's the competition through it. It's
what you and people can understand that. I was fascinated
by people saying that if you give children's certificates to participation,
(30:47):
they'll forget what it means to win. Now they understand
both play to win. If it doesn't, that's okay. You
can have these different thought process at the same time,
probably because kids are smarter than adults most of the time.
Scott Dixon joins a program at next here's a Winner's
this new stalk ZD thing that I've gone U SHBDB.
(31:18):
It is sven forty six. Let's talk race cards now
and we're going to go to Scott to Dicklan Dixon
P and C Bank race car the Chicken Nassy number
nine looking down the battle. I was twenty third indy
five hundred race, astonishing Scott twenty two races. When you
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go to this track, it might be like maybe sliding
into a comfortable pair of slippers.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
I wouldn't say that it's never comfortable, you know. I
think that's you know, what keeps it so fresh as
that it's forever changing, right, and the target's always different.
So this year definitely some you know, some you know changes.
I think, wha, there will be a lot cooler than
what we've seen in the past. Tied degradation seems to
be up, you know, just because the weight of the
hybrid and you know failure is.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
A little bit up as well.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I think that we in the first few races this year,
so you know, it's never never the same, and the
competition always changes as well. You know, we're a lot
in a lot better place this year, so looking forward
to you know, having a real good crack at it
this this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So it looks like the number nine car rolled out
of the truck, as they say, in pretty good neck.
What can you tell us about the way the vehicle
has been handling with the changes we've had to make, Scott.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Yeah, I think race stuff has been probably the more favorable.
You know, qualifying was definitely a nice surprise this year.
I think last year was kind of a good reset
for us. You know, none of us, with all five
cars made it to the fast twelve. You know, that
was definitely pretty frustrating considering I think the last you know,
four or five years, one of us and the team
had kind of been fighting for the poll and had
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captured the pole many of those times as well, So
you know, it was a good wake up call, you know, refocused,
especially kind of the advanced Engineering group and you know,
everybody that's involved in that process and you know, Alex
and I made it to the fast Sex you know,
second row. You know we're starting fourth, he's starting sixth.
You know, I think Kiffin's starting thirteenth. Probably, you know,
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we would have loved to have been fighting for the pole.
But definitely, you know, I'm seventeen spots already better than
it was last year, so that's that's definitely a nice surprise.
So yeah, carsp has been great. I think the long
runs have been really good. But you never really know,
I think and once you know, until you get into
the thick of it in the race and see how
your speed really is.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Huge amount of joy around the Pitts for Robert Schwartzman,
his family and his team as well. Of course he's
a rookie and he's got pole position. Good.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, it was. It was cool. You know, it's it's
a new team with Prema. Obviously they've got a storied
history but you know, mostly in Europe, and you know,
Robert himself being a rookie out of the gate, you know,
is fantastic to see. And you know a lot of
actually Excanassi people there, you know, Ryan Briscoe and X
(34:00):
teammate of mine who has actually been helping a Schwartzman
quite a bit there as well.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So really happy for that group.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
It was definitely a bit of a shock, I think
on Saturday qualifying because when we all watched the run,
we're like, wow, that was really fast, you know, considering
that he wasn't even flat in any of the corners
and the car just had amazing speed, and that would
be true, you know once we got to the fast
twelve and then to the fast six. You know, I
don't think he did a single lap that was that
was flat and still had you know, crazy speed, whereas
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you know, for us, I think we would have crumbled
a but have we been in that situation. So you know,
kudos to them, and it's really really really cool to
see and a great storyline, especially going into the race.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Okay, so where does that extra speed come from? I
don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
It's yeah, even car, but we study a lot of
that stuff, you know, whether it's a lot of photos
and all that kind of stuff just to see car
build and you know things that they're maybe doing different
and yeah, nothing surprising, but the surprising part was that
car was definitely fast race running. You know, they've been
struggling a little bit more. But you know, if you've
got you know, good pace out of the car, that's
definitely half your battle. I think going into the five
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hundred one.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Of the usual suspects to Kuma Sato front row of
the grid. It's picked up and when there are a
couple of times. What is it about Tacoma, Sato and
ndy five hundred? He loves the place, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
And you know, you'd say the rest of his teammates
have been struggling a little bit. You know, Sato who
he had as a teammate, was it last year or
the year before, you know, as his motto goes, Noah
technical chance and that definitely, you know, you know plays
out at that place.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
For sure.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
He was the quickest Honda. You know, I think that
was a bit of a shock to us. You know,
just even even in you know, the fast sex they
weren't very trimmed, so you know, they weren't aggressive on
on you know, trimming that carrat and going for straight
line speed and you know they were they were definitely fast.
We were pretty close to them, I think within a
few tenths a mile hour. But you know, he did
(35:57):
definitely did a fantastic job and studying what is the
middle of the front row, So yeah, he'll be tough.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
To be watching. Qualifying Scott is a fantastic perio where
a camera sits in the cockpit with you blows me
away how much work you have to do actually in
the cockpit there are so many buttons to push and
switches to switch, and the whole time you've got to
stop yourself driving into a wall at nearly four hundred
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kilometers an hour. It's phenomenal to what it's crazy stuff.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, it's definitely a it's definitely a fine art. You know,
it's it's tricky. You know, You've you've got the waightjecker,
you've got the you know, the wayjacker, that kind of
you know compacts now on the streets too, that you
have to trigger and then make sure you don't forget
about it because you know you're you're more than likely
go straight ahead, which we've seen some cars crash earlier
in the month because of that.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You know.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
The addition of the hybrid is you know, put up
the workload of regiinning and deploying in certain spots and
you know, whether you trickle or or you know, do
it every lap, and then you've got you know, your
typical stuff of just you know, moving car balance and
roll bars and all that kind of you know, you know,
just trying to get it right for each corner to
you know the problem at India it kind of looks
like therefore just corners that look the same, but they're
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very different. And then when you get the complexities which
we had, especially on Saturday with the wind, you know,
guts of thirty five or forty five miles an hour,
especially in turn two that's gone up your backside. You know,
it definitely changes or grabs your attention, I should say. So, yeah,
it's it's it may look.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Easy from TV.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Doesn't know justice and you know this year fact that
you're doing over you know, almost four hundred kilometers per
hour as well.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
You know, the.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Downside of that is the crash, and the crash is
a pretty big nun.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, Scott, you really don't want to focus on that.
And on the subject of Rex, couple of kiwis didn't
have the best of times. Turns one, turns two, both
McLoughlin and Armstrong with some big skids and of course
the best thing about that is they walked away eight. Okay,
the cars didn't a lot of work to do between
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the smash time and when they start again. That's huge
energy and effort from the team.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Yeah, definitely not what you want to see for any competitor.
Obviously with with Marcus, you know, he's under kind of
the Ganassi engineering umbrella. You know, he's at my shank,
but we have a partnership with them, you know. And
then mclaughlan's one was was kind of ill timed, you know.
I think being the morning of qualifying, you know, definitely
makes it quite frustrating for you know, for that next
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day of the Fast twelve. And you know, the real
big downside is that, you know, the kind of the
fit and you know, preparation for these cars that we
really only run at the five hundred, you know, it
is kind of months in the build, you know, so
if you jump to a backup car, and we saw that,
you know from both those guys where you know, Marcus,
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you know, really struggled to qualify I think the next
few days just because the cars aren't prepped the same
and mclachland, you know, I'm sure Penske have got some
some great backups in their scenario, but still it's not
the car that you know, you really want to race.
So they've got a week to to kind of work
on it now, or at least you know, four to
five days to kind of get it prepped as much,
but it's never the same. So you know they'll be
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fast and you know, hoping for big things for fellow
Kiwis and hopefully we can all fly the flag.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
One last thing, Scott Dixon then, as always, thanks very
much for sharing some time with us and the listeners.
Let's talk about the controversy of the week, the attenuated
situation with Team Penske. It's only a tiny adjustment, but
it's still illegal and they've been absolutely slacked for that.
(39:39):
Were you surprised to see this, Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
You know, I think the you know, the hard part
is the legitimacy of the sport, right, you know, it's
it's already magnified because you know, Roger Penske owns the
Indy five hundred of the circuit. You know, he owns
a team that races competitively in the IndyCar Series, which
he already owns and owns the engine supplayer that makes
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the engines for you know g So it's a tricky
situation for them anyway, and they have to be squeaky clean,
and you know, unfortunately it didn't play out that way.
And you know, I think off the back side of
what happened last year with you know, their overtake penalties
and you know, doing something kind of blatantly illegal there
(40:25):
as well. So it's not a good look, you know,
and it's frustrating for the sport just in general, and
frustrating for team owners and everybody that's involved, you know,
and you know, you can see some of the reaction
that's come from it, you know, with some of the
penalties that they've been handed and you know, plus I
think today where they fired you know, three of you know,
Penske employees. So yeah, it's just it kind of unfortunately,
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you're probably talking more about that than you know, a
rookie Schwartzman getting the poll for the biggest race in
the world. So you know, hopefully they can they can
clean it up, and you know, unfortunately they're just going
to be under the magnified big time now.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Four forty five Monday morning, that race is on Indianapolis,
the Brickyard Racing for that bottle of milk. If you
want to hear the full interview, you can. It's online
at a news talks here b dot co dot in
z here to be epic and thanks very much for
all your texts. Lots of race car fans out there,
it's always good to hear quickly with this winning and
(41:35):
losing the whole sport profession and social engineering. It keeps
the sheep and the paddic looking in the middle, trying
to find holes in the fence through it's to escape.
I did of her outdoor pursuits, rafting and climbing and
hunting and playing against nature. She's tougher and fairer than
blind rusts and sports and cheats. Great show though, Darcy,
thanks Warwick, thank you very much. A lot of people
(41:58):
saying best of liked Scott Dixon gonna be another massive
but he's starting so far up as opposed to way
back like last time around. And Penske owns everything they
got done for Push to Past eating last year. They
don't have to own everything, the series, the engine supplier,
the track.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Dearing me.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Thank you very much for listening, and thank you. It's
middle s. I recommend him as you were and I
See you later.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
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Welcome to sports Talk. My name is Darcy water Grave.
My arms are wide open, welcoming you into an hour
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Eight hundred eighty ten eighty precon number nationwide. You can
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apply to guess on this evening's program. Toward the end
(00:58):
of the show, Scott Dixon makes an appearance on the
show that I am his number one fanboy and sadly
him I've got his phone number and won't leave him alone.
But he's such a generous man, generous of spirit and time,
and he always gives me ten fifteen minutes or so
before the Indy five hundred, which is fantastic. Really looking
(01:20):
forward to lesting back to this again. I had to
chat with Scott this morning. Crawled out of a scratcher
when he rang, well, oh god, do it now straight away?
Another massive event for him. I think it's just twenty
third running of the Indy five hundred. It's ridiculous, it's wow. Anyway,
we'll talk to him about all sorts you can take
(01:40):
a listen on in around about half an hour or
thirty five minutes time. We're going to talk football first up,
because the NDY five hundred is massive on early hours
of Monday morning for a lot of people. But you'd
argue the biggest game over the weekend here in New
Zealand anyway is Leg two as AKFC host Melbourne v
(02:06):
three League one up one zip. There's a chance to
qualify for the finals. And she's all on on Saturday
afternoon slash evening and to talk about that. Jonathan Gold
joins us. Spend time with the Phoenix he's the goal
keeping coach, a lot of time with Alex Paulson, and
(02:27):
talk to him about the preparation for the game, what
they have to avoid, what they have to lift and
run with. How about the fear of loss? Does that
haunt these players or not? How do they work that through?
Plenty to talk about anyway, Jonathan joins us shortly and
then all you mad football fans can celebrate the joy
of football. Talk to us about your confidence, talk to
(02:50):
us about if you're much more in tune with the
vagaries of the game, what has to happen and what
Auckland FC have to do because it's all on now.
The weights of New Zealand football is on their shoulders.
Can they get it done or they be crushed by
expectation one hundred and eighty ten eighty to take your
calls on that. But before I of that, I give
(03:14):
you a clue. What about something like this today? It's
like a boll one casey Frankie form a tool way
I can't break it. And now the NBL spokesperson believes
that the departure of the Panthers from the league will
leave bills paid and no violence in the streets.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Just like any other business that is not living up
to its financial obligations.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
There's a process to be followed. Fortunately for me in
my old age, that process does not include me bringing
a baseball pat around.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
These are lines I never ever thought I'd hear from
any spokesperson about anything ever. But you've got to give
them credit for saying that is it in the small print.
If you don't pay your bills, we're going to beat
the snot out of it. Yeah. Street Justice seven's Queen
George Miller will play open site for the Black Ferns
against USA on SAT today. She wants to go to
(04:09):
the Rugby World Cut the Women's Rugby World Cup. But
if not, like seven's are sweet.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
It's obviously tough for the fifteenth group for sevens players
to just jump in an out. So we want to
put our hand up and we want to push the group.
We want to be in that group. But if we're not,
we're pushing the others around us. So I think that
there's so many benefits that come with that.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
I think everybody's pushing everybody else. And the tweaks made
in the team throughout Pack four. Looking ahead to the
naming of that side, I'd say most of them would
be on Tinda Hook's wondering if they get picked or not.
There are some classy athletes in there, Mistress coach I
tell when it is parked. Other Ossie imported Danelle Wellham.
(04:50):
She's been more than adequate as a replacement for Grace Wicket.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
We're loving having Nelly.
Speaker 7 (04:56):
She's been a real great addition to our team.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
She's got a super cool personality.
Speaker 7 (05:00):
She's a beautiful person and I get a great vibe
in terms of what she does within the team, and
she's she's done really well, So it's.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Awesome Nelly came up to the studio a couple of
weeks ago. Top women, no doubt about that. Good to
see her settling into light in Auckland and the Dallas
Stars have taken game one and the NAHL Western Conference Finals.
They beat the Oilers six three, and then they beat
them with sticks final five seconds of a remarkable Now
(05:33):
the Skirvish, etcetera ace. Of course, it's written in the
stars and that's football now. It became huge game, massive game.
Can the Auckland Football Club overcome the threats of victory?
They have got a nose in front, They've got one
(05:54):
foot in the door. What's a funny old game, though,
it doesn't take much to turn the table strong as
you come this year, clean sheet after clean sheet from
Alex Paulson. A man pastly responsible for there is Jonathan Gord.
He's the goalkeeping at coach and he's a good man.
I've got to say. He joins us now to talk
about preparations, to talk about fear, to talk about Alex.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Paulsen, to talk about football.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Good evening, Jonathan, good evening. How you doing. I'm doing
very well. More's the point. What are you guys? How
are you doing. How are you carrying this? This is
getting more and more intense, surely with every passing day.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
It was intense to swarning when we were watching Ange
win it for Tottenham that much. And I think when
you watch those moments and having had the one where
we took the plate out, you kind of dream of
the next one and you understand what those guys are
going through having you know, you go through so much
as a as an athlete and as a coach.
Speaker 4 (06:52):
Winning is everything.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You've got to compartmentalize, though, don't you. I'd suggest I
don't know what your theories are around That's how much
of last week's came the first leag do you guys
carry into League two?
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think you carry a lot of it, given how
how we sort of operated on the night. You know,
the performance that the lads gave in you know, the
effort that went into the the game, into the preparation,
in into the ninety three four or five minutes that
we played. You know, even the emotion I think of
it in the inside of the post twice where a
second goal makes it, you know, give us a real
(07:28):
bit of daylight.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
So you go through all those emotions after.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
The game and then you know, Steve's analyzed them with
the players over the last couple of days. But I
think it's more of the same. It's the it's you've
got to go with the same attitude. You've also got
to go with an attitude that you're you're not just
holding on to one goal, You've got the ability to
go and extend that and that I think there's got
to be ours. I've you know, I've played in a
(07:52):
Championship promotion game when brad when I was at Bradford
and we got beat by Blackpool two nil in the
in the first leg at home and then Blackpool had
ordered the coaches for Wembley. They were singing and dancing
and and you know two nil we turned it round
three too. So you know, there's there's there's always a
moment in the game that it could swing on. And
(08:15):
and I think, you know, like one mill up and
you you're going to I personally believe that you defend
harder than you are you do when you're two nil up.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
You're not going to park a bus, though, are you.
You're going to go on a similar thought process. You're
going to play the game you play.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah, you know, and like I said, Steve, Steve spoke
to this one and we've looked at the way that
we've we've been able to unhinge them at times away
from home. You know that their attitude will have to
be they've got to come and open the game up
very very quickly, and that kind of should help us
(08:49):
on the current attack. And what we spoke to about
today was really about how more effective we can be
on the counter attack.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You can't predict what they're going to do, though, can you,
because that just opens up all sorts of cans of worms.
So you've got to understand where they might be coming
from that. You can't put that on them too, to my.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Right, no, but you can predict that they've got to
be positive. And when you play positive football, you also
leave space. And that's what we have to try and exploit.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Who becomes the most important in that exploitation role.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Of the person that wins that trat first transition, the
player that can get that first pass off and then
and then when we can pick that pass that you
know that we've got the pace up front to actually
hurt the opposition. It's so there's you know, there's three
or four moments really and it's and it all starts
from our structure behind the ball.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
How do you address the maybe nerves, the good news,
the anticipatory nerves, all the all the bad news. Because
I'm doing this job far too long. Jonathan been talking
to athletes and some just go, it's a fresh game,
it's new. I'm doing this and I'm excited. I'm going
to carry that excitement and other players are like, I'm
freaking out. But that actually propels me. Is there a
(10:04):
general group attitude or the end of victuals do their
own thing? How does that actually work in the build up?
I'm sure it's very personal.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Yeah, I think it is personal.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
I remember Alex saying to me a couple of weeks
ago before a game, I'm nervous, and I said to him,
I says, that's a good thing. Says that means you've
got an edge about you. Other nerves, like players can
show in different ways. But I think you know, our
probably job as a coaching group is to keep keep
that intensity away until it's really needed on the day.
(10:34):
I think you go through the week where there's too
much of that. I think that can then overspill the
adrenaline over spills and it can sometimes go the other way.
So it's really important that that we've kept training very purposeful,
but not overtly intense.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
You don't want to be over stimulated, do you, and
leave it all on the training pack. It's not when
you want to win the game.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That talk about the shadow of loss. It's quite fascinating
to me. Maybe I'm a very negative human or not,
but you're not gonna when every tournament you play. You're
not gonna win every game you go into. Do you
guys talk much about like leaning into the concept of loss.
Has it got a place or not? No?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I don't think it gets talked about. But I'd be
lying if I said you don't think about those moments.
And again I can only speak from personal experience. When
I was coaching at Middlesbrough and we were in the
semi final to get to Wembley to get into the
Premier League, and we were playing aston Villa and you know,
we'd lost the first game I think one neil and
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so we had to be very very positive, got picked
off by a very good villity and you walk off
the field, you walk into the dressing room, the manager
will say his peace, and then you're gone for the
next six weeks. You don't really speak to anybody because
that's the end of the season. And that's the very
finite thing about playoff football, and that's I suppose that's
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kind of that's what you clearly don't want to happen,
but that's how it does happen, very very very quickly.
On the other side of it is if you come
out and you've won the game at the weekend, you've
got an incredible build up then to a Grand Final
and that's again that's that's about further, that's about supporters,
and that's about excitement as to what's on the other
side of a potential victory there, which would be quite
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an historic occasion in football, for football in this country.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Jonathan Gold, When you lift alone for that six seven weeks,
does it get a dressed much by by I'm sure
that psychology within the team is huge now in professional sport.
But then lift to just I suppose sit there and
steam not helpful. What do you guys do in that space?
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Well, that depends which way it goes, didn't it.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Well, yeah, no, when you're sitting in there going oh
my god, we got knocked out and the coach balls
you out and he walks out the door, and you go,
what I'm gonna do now?
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, well you just you kind of accept it in
that moment.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I think you probably stew on it.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Yeah, and then I suppose it's when you walk back
back in the door at the at the start of
the next season. It's it's where your focus is and
what you want to achieve. And you know, you've got
to remember, I think you know in this league, ha
many teams. We've got twelve thirteen teams. Every team starts
a season thinking that it will win the Grand Final.
All the supporters thing that way. So you know, that's
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how we have to think. And our challenge will probably
be be next year as much as it is this year,
because the second seasons is always the hardest and that's
their one fifth.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
That's something that I've already.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Spoken about, is how we're going to make sure that
the targets are there, that the desire is there from
us first of all as coaches, and then make sure
that translates to the players.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
How much de lean on Dan Hall, it's quite a
damn hand at winning everything, isn't he? I mean, after
last year, I think he picked up three boxes of chocolate,
so coupably the year before that. How instrument was his
experience within this Well.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Again, if you go go to his character and his personality,
he's one of those guys that trains plays very, very
intensely in his moments. But there's also this laid back
is not the right word, but he's got a character
that everybody bounces off. He's fantastic to have around, and
he's been kind of the epitome of what we've we've
probably achieved thus far in the season. And and like
(14:21):
you say, his experience, it's been invaluable. And if you
look at his last five or six, I don't know
how many it is. He and I sat down the
other day, so how many of you were now on
the banks, and it must be it must be around
five or six consecutive trophies that have been on offer
other than the FA Cup FFA Cup this year because
we couldn't play in it anyway. But if you think
(14:42):
we won the Trouble, he's taken one away this season,
and then what comes what comes after after the next weekend,
it could be an incredible run for three different teams.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
Crazy you're in charge of the goalkeeping coach. Saved me
a lot a lot of time with Alex Paulson, and
hopefully he's gotten rid of what happened. I think it
was yesterday a year ago anyway with the Phoenix. But
what he's done now, the way he's managed to leave that,
dismissed that break his rear vision mirrors off and then
carry on his form this year has been astonishing. What
(15:15):
do you put that down to, not only within himself,
but with what your contributed, because you have a part
of this Jovian.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah, I think I think there's always been a really
solid relationship with Alex and I very open in the
last three or four years. I obviously worked with him
at the Phoenix when he was coming through there, but
ultimately it comes from from within himself.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
You know.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
We you know, on a daily basis, we have to
do technical work. We have to make sure that he's ready,
we prepared for the strikers he's coming up against. But
you can't work people, and you can't coach people with
unless they've got that open inner drive and Aps has
been exceptional and that one of the first things that
he mentioned when he came he said, Look, he said,
(16:00):
last year, I didn't win anything. We had a really
good season, but I've got this year. I want to
win something. And there we've had little gentle reminders all
through the season about really what this year was about.
He set himself a target of more clean sheets than
he had last year. I think the one just gone
made it thirteen. I think that beat him up beat
his last year total equaled it. So now we're going
(16:22):
to set us right. Can you go again with the
clean sheets? If he keeps two more clean sheets, it'll
be a phenomenal, phenomenal record. But they are things that
he set himself and he wants to win, and he's
shown that in the way he's performed. And we've got
two big, big games to go.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Well.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
He pulled out a couple of snorters last week, which
is good. But of course he can keep like you
wouldn't believe. He's a magician. But without the mean in
front of him, it kind of becomes pointless. That relationship enormous.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Yeah, we talked about that a lot as a goalkeeping group,
about relationships about you know, the information that he's got
to give to his two center backs, his relationship with
his right back when the balls coming down our right
hand side and even with his six and how communication.
You know, you consider yourself doing a good job really
if you haven't had much to do in a game,
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because that means part of what you do, which is
provide sort of tactical information as someone who can see
the whole pitch. If you've done that job, then you've
got less to do. And I think that's a maturity
thing as well, and that's something you know different from
last year. You know that he clearly had a lot
to do at the Phoenix in moments and we were
(17:32):
a different setup and he's had really big saves to
make for us this year.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
There's John Goulder, goalkeeping coach for Auckland if C, ahead
of arguably the biggest game of football in New Zealand
this year. I don't think you can go much further.
Got the Melbourne victory. It's coming up Saturday six pm.
(18:08):
That game kicks off one knill up. Got the advantage
in the tie and I was talking to Jason Pine
about this because I was a little unsure. Overheard someone
at the pub talking about it. There is no away goals,
that doesn't matter, it's just aggregate it's all of us.
So if they score back and then that's it, then
(18:30):
they got to go to extra time and then they're going
to go to penalty shootouts. All that heartbreaking stuff promises
so much great to have Jonathan on the program. How
important is this for the and this sounds like a
bit over the top, obviously very important for the club,
very important for the ALA. You don't turn up out
(18:51):
of nowhere and suddenly start warning trophies unless you're these guys,
and you do. And I talked to Jonathan about leaning
into failure and professional sports people probably don't think like that.
(19:12):
There are some that do, but it's accepting and understanding
that as a sportsperson or as a sports team, losing
is a dominant part of what you do. You don't
win everything, only one personal one team wins, that's it.
(19:36):
So if they can't win, which is what a lot
of teams do, they fluff their lines, they blow it,
they're not the best. Does that undo all the good
work of this year? Because they've done enormous amount of
good work this year for football in New Zealand. So
if they bottle it, does that undo everything they've done?
(19:57):
Can you accept that? Because like life is losing, isn't it,
and you need to accept that and run with it.
I hope they don't, but it's one of those realities.
So will this undo a loss? Will that undo all
of the good work? I don't think it will. I
(20:18):
think people will still be cheering from the rafters. Is
first time out. Look what they've done. So fine. If
they're listening, I'm really sorry. Oh eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty lines are open, and someone wants to
know why I'm ruining my award winning program by talking
about football and racing. I'd use the word award pending
(20:43):
because it's been a couple of years since we've won
any awards. You want award winning radio Jason Pine over
the week and there you go. There's this news Talks EB,
Your course coming up next, Our eight one hundred and
eighty ten eighty seven sports talk on Newstalks EB, Scott
(21:07):
Dixon not so far away, knocking Indy same Henrid. We're
talking football now though, huge game coming up on Saturday evening,
stroke afternoon, not quite sure where it's six o'clock whatever.
If Auckland AC can't get the job done, will that
take away anything that they've achieved so far this year.
(21:32):
I've got one text very suxtinct no, and another text
says and I think, well, Derek's join us next. I'll
tell you what, Derek, do you want to answer this
text for me? Mate?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Go on?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
What's the point of having the no away go rule
a goal rule and playing two legs home and away
should just be one match home ground advantage to the
higher place team that's from Brent. What do you reckon?
Speaker 8 (21:56):
Well, there's something funny that away goals rule was born
in the nineteen sixties in Europe because that there was
a team edge Malart, who's actually funny enough in the
final in the Champions League final this year yet to
be played, and they used to. They had a manager
called Alena Herrera back in the early sixties and he
was under the impression with his tactics that one goal
(22:17):
was enough to win the tight home and away just
one goal. So you can imagine what the the away
tie was going to be like when Enter Milan had
to travel away from the San Sero, they would have
everyone behind the ball they caught it. I think the
Italian wit is concitio, which is that means some kind
of barrier, and so they decided double. Yeah, so you
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could go that, you could go forward, and all of
a sudden, getting an away goal became quite a quite
a big thing because in the event of a draw,
away goals count double. But yeah, like because the wayfoot
was being played at the moment, with the likes of
Guardiola's teams and Klops teams, they are all so such
flamboyant attacking side that there's not this, there's not this
(22:59):
holding on anymore at home? Sorry, holding on away and
then trying to finish the job at home.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Sorry, When did.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
They stopped this? And this is a global thing to
FIFA coming and saying no more. Is it just a
different league? What's that about?
Speaker 8 (23:13):
I think they I think Yuefa actually who brought it,
And I think they're thinking about stopping it. They'd have
stopped it, they just haven't done it in the A League.
I don't think they need to. The A League is
quite an open it's quite an open competition. Really, there's
not that much. Look, I could turn around and say
the defenses aren't that good, but often they're so. You've
been like a rocket the back that this year they're
back four. I mean, they've got a guy Dan Bernie's
(23:35):
twenty six to the restaurant right up to thirty twenty
nine to thirty thirty five. They're experienced pros, they're tough guys.
In this Melbourne victually side. Of the last three matches
they've played, they've been unable to find their net against
against Alex Pulson or to get past the back.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
For I think I mentioned to Jonathan about the relationship
between that four and how important that is. A pulsim
of that communication and him saying, well, look, if you
hear nothing from Alex the whole game, it's a good
thing because he's told has defenders exactly what to do.
Speaker 8 (24:06):
Most of the communications are back. Like I've been to
every game except every Homegome, of course, except for the
two Wellington games. I was n't able to get a
check it. We'll sold out so quickly, and I'm not
a season ticket holder, but I've got my I've obviously
got my ticket for Saturday and I'm really looking forward
to it. In fact, I know a lot of people
have got tickets for both Saturday and Sundays. Something enough
Aukland to see who are really enjoying the atmosphere a
(24:28):
smart even if it's Awk, theft Sea or the Warriors,
they don't really care. They just thoroughly having a great
time and it's a.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Cuddle of a place. If it's going well, if it's
cold and where it's not and there's no one there,
it's absolutely horrible, Derek. If they can't get the job
done and bottle it, which I don't think they will.
Does that track from anything they've done this year? Or
are we fully focused on victories the only way?
Speaker 8 (24:51):
No, I don't think so. I think at the moment
the atmosphere is more why a lot of people are
thoroughly enjoying it. Yeah, look, we all want to win.
We all want our teams to win. We've all got
these clubs that we follow and we're going to I mean,
look at Spurs supporters. I mean, for goodness, they've gone
like forty two years from they won the league was
ninety sixty one. Actually that was the ear was born.
So I see, I'll tell you right now. They just
(25:12):
some teams just don't get any support. I remember when
west Ham United came in and played the Eaton Park
with Tamian. It was the last time they ever won anything,
yet they had massive amount of crowds. That was in
New Zealand, for goodness sake. So some clubs just appealed
to the messes, don't I don't know whether you said
that with the Warriors. They haven't won the premiership yet
they're so popular both here in Australia. You've seen it
(25:33):
last year where they were winning like forty percent of
their games. They were selling in every single home game.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Well, if you follow a team purely to watch them win,
your nuts. Because teams I mean unless you you know
Manchester United back in the day that the Crusaders did
it for a while. But generally it's not about the
victory the defeat. It's about following the team and being
part of that club. I made the mine was an
Everton fan and Everton came to christ years ago and
(26:00):
he stood on the on the bank and he beat
himself up to make them feel at home.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (26:06):
Look, the fact of the matter is let's concentrate on
this game. That's that's happening on Saturday. If you look
at that that Auckland side will they're strong at the back.
They've got two wingers they play in every game and
they like to hit them early, these wingers, and they've
got two wingers on the bench, which they normally bring
after an hour. And I might also point out that
this Jirillimo may this player from Uruguay, he's the best
(26:26):
attacking player in the league. I don't know what sort
of contract he's got. I don't want sort of money
the club's playing him, but he's worth every penny. He
can create, he can score goals, he can play further forward,
he can drop back in a midfield. Everything revolves around
this guy. And I was absolutely astonished that no one
in this league has decided to do a man for
man marking job on them, or really give him a
hard time physically. He just seems to bounce away from
(26:47):
tackles and the crowd when he gets hold of the
ball and he switches the ball onto that left but
the crowd just gets up out of their seat because
he's such an exciting player. Look, the club does play
exciting football, but I might point out that the ground
that they played on in Melbourne for that one Nill
victory was a bit of a cow paddock and this
this Melbourn victory. So I'd like to play fast, exciting
(27:08):
passing football. Now they will enjoy that at Mount Smart
because Mount Smart is a fantastic service. It's flat as
a pancake. It's like a bowling green and I can
tell you right now they're going to enjoy playing there.
So one goal might not be enough for me. I
think it's going to be a very exciting finish and
I don't think it's going to be any top of
a cape wall. I think Auckland's going to have to
be their very best. Should they lose, It's still going
(27:29):
to be a great season, but it will still leave
a little bit of a hollow feeling, I think for
the hardcore football fans, but for the people that have
been going along to enjoy the atmosphere, this is going
to be such a great night of fun football, all
sorts of shouting going on. It's going to be great.
And I hope it goes down to a penalty shootout
because well I know about.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
A penalty shootout. That is scary. I don't know if
we want that. But yeah, they played. It was an
absolutely swamp last week. Enough already Scott next in sooner
rather than later. Take a couple more of your calls
and text as well. Eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.
I'm going to track from this season if Auckland FC
(28:07):
can't get it done, what are your recking? Shouldn't do?
Shouldn't it's a sports talk we look at you. You're
taking me?
Speaker 4 (28:22):
Would you name.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Sports talking news talk Darcy. I'm loving his show with
football and moderating and no rugby, don't you? Thanks John?
And a massive fomo from one of our other listeners
who went to last is Indy five hundred three days
of Madness the incredible place that is a bucket list.
(28:46):
But I'm terrified of going to the States just for
the minute. Good Glenn, how are you?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (28:53):
Jan?
Speaker 2 (28:54):
I'm doing great.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
Winning is everything, whether a cindividual or a sports team.
Here it's only one winner, and that is life, winners
and losers. As spoken by New Zealand's best sports presenter,
Darcy water Grade.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Don't you say that? I didn't.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
Everything's going on there. So here come a couple a
few weeks ago there was some homeschooled student that won
some pretty major event, but they wouldn't give him the
winning prize because he was homeschooled and that was not
educated through the mainstream going to school and these those
(29:38):
children at school that taught like, no, you don't have
to win, you'll get a price. You'll you know, you
come to fifteen or eighteen fifty first, No, you get
this thing here and the winner doesn't get recognized. So
obviously winning is not everything in this country where.
Speaker 2 (29:56):
I think that Glenn, that most people have got the
horse power, especially kids, to recognize that you play to win,
that's the object. If you're not trying to win, there's
no point in playing these no energy behind me. But
if you don't win, it's not the end of the
world because more often than not you are going to lose.
And if you can't deal with that, you shouldn't play
(30:17):
the game because it'll crush you mentally. Right.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Oh, I don't know winning is everything, boy Darcy water Grace.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
But yeah, I didn't say winning was everything. Winning is.
Winning is wonderful. Winning, that's what you aim towards, that's
what you do. But if you don't, it's not the
end of the world. It's the competition through it. It's
what you and people can understand that. I was fascinated
by people saying that if you give children's certificates to participation,
(30:47):
they'll forget what it means to win. Now they understand
both play to win. If it doesn't, that's okay. You
can have these different thought process at the same time,
probably because kids are smarter than adults most of the time.
Scott Dixon joins a program at next here's a Winner's
this new stalk ZD thing that I've gone U SHBDB.
(31:18):
It is sven forty six. Let's talk race cards now
and we're going to go to Scott to Dicklan Dixon
P and C Bank race car the Chicken Nassy number
nine looking down the battle. I was twenty third indy
five hundred race, astonishing Scott twenty two races. When you
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go to this track, it might be like maybe sliding
into a comfortable pair of slippers.
Speaker 7 (31:44):
I wouldn't say that it's never comfortable, you know. I
think that's you know, what keeps it so fresh as
that it's forever changing, right, and the target's always different.
So this year definitely some you know, some you know changes.
I think, wha, there will be a lot cooler than
what we've seen in the past. Tied degradation seems to
be up, you know, just because the weight of the
hybrid and you know failure is.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
A little bit up as well.
Speaker 7 (32:05):
I think that we in the first few races this year,
so you know, it's never never the same, and the
competition always changes as well. You know, we're a lot
in a lot better place this year, so looking forward
to you know, having a real good crack at it
this this Sunday.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
So it looks like the number nine car rolled out
of the truck, as they say, in pretty good neck.
What can you tell us about the way the vehicle
has been handling with the changes we've had to make, Scott.
Speaker 7 (32:30):
Yeah, I think race stuff has been probably the more favorable.
You know, qualifying was definitely a nice surprise this year.
I think last year was kind of a good reset
for us. You know, none of us, with all five
cars made it to the fast twelve. You know, that
was definitely pretty frustrating considering I think the last you know,
four or five years, one of us and the team
had kind of been fighting for the poll and had
(32:50):
captured the pole many of those times as well, So
you know, it was a good wake up call, you know, refocused,
especially kind of the advanced Engineering group and you know,
everybody that's involved in that process and you know, Alex
and I made it to the fast Sex you know,
second row. You know we're starting fourth, he's starting sixth.
You know, I think Kiffin's starting thirteenth. Probably, you know,
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we would have loved to have been fighting for the pole.
But definitely, you know, I'm seventeen spots already better than
it was last year, so that's that's definitely a nice surprise.
So yeah, carsp has been great. I think the long
runs have been really good. But you never really know,
I think and once you know, until you get into
the thick of it in the race and see how
your speed really is.
Speaker 2 (33:29):
Huge amount of joy around the Pitts for Robert Schwartzman,
his family and his team as well. Of course he's
a rookie and he's got pole position. Good.
Speaker 7 (33:39):
Yeah, it was. It was cool. You know, it's it's
a new team with Prema. Obviously they've got a storied
history but you know, mostly in Europe, and you know,
Robert himself being a rookie out of the gate, you know,
is fantastic to see. And you know a lot of
actually Excanassi people there, you know, Ryan Briscoe and X
(34:00):
teammate of mine who has actually been helping a Schwartzman
quite a bit there as well.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
So really happy for that group.
Speaker 7 (34:05):
It was definitely a bit of a shock, I think
on Saturday qualifying because when we all watched the run,
we're like, wow, that was really fast, you know, considering
that he wasn't even flat in any of the corners
and the car just had amazing speed, and that would
be true, you know once we got to the fast
twelve and then to the fast six. You know, I
don't think he did a single lap that was that
was flat and still had you know, crazy speed, whereas
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you know, for us, I think we would have crumbled
a but have we been in that situation. So you know,
kudos to them, and it's really really really cool to
see and a great storyline, especially going into the race.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Okay, so where does that extra speed come from? I
don't know.
Speaker 7 (34:43):
It's yeah, even car, but we study a lot of
that stuff, you know, whether it's a lot of photos
and all that kind of stuff just to see car
build and you know things that they're maybe doing different
and yeah, nothing surprising, but the surprising part was that
car was definitely fast race running. You know, they've been
struggling a little bit more. But you know, if you've
got you know, good pace out of the car, that's
definitely half your battle. I think going into the five
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hundred one.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Of the usual suspects to Kuma Sato front row of
the grid. It's picked up and when there are a
couple of times. What is it about Tacoma, Sato and
ndy five hundred? He loves the place, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7 (35:19):
And you know, you'd say the rest of his teammates
have been struggling a little bit. You know, Sato who
he had as a teammate, was it last year or
the year before, you know, as his motto goes, Noah
technical chance and that definitely, you know, you know plays
out at that place.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
For sure.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
He was the quickest Honda. You know, I think that
was a bit of a shock to us. You know,
just even even in you know, the fast sex they
weren't very trimmed, so you know, they weren't aggressive on
on you know, trimming that carrat and going for straight
line speed and you know they were they were definitely fast.
We were pretty close to them, I think within a
few tenths a mile hour. But you know, he did
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definitely did a fantastic job and studying what is the
middle of the front row, So yeah, he'll be tough.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
To be watching. Qualifying Scott is a fantastic perio where
a camera sits in the cockpit with you blows me
away how much work you have to do actually in
the cockpit there are so many buttons to push and
switches to switch, and the whole time you've got to
stop yourself driving into a wall at nearly four hundred
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kilometers an hour. It's phenomenal to what it's crazy stuff.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
Yeah, it's definitely a it's definitely a fine art. You know,
it's it's tricky. You know, You've you've got the waightjecker,
you've got the you know, the wayjacker, that kind of
you know compacts now on the streets too, that you
have to trigger and then make sure you don't forget
about it because you know you're you're more than likely
go straight ahead, which we've seen some cars crash earlier
in the month because of that.
Speaker 4 (36:49):
You know.
Speaker 7 (36:49):
The addition of the hybrid is you know, put up
the workload of regiinning and deploying in certain spots and
you know, whether you trickle or or you know, do
it every lap, and then you've got you know, your
typical stuff of just you know, moving car balance and
roll bars and all that kind of you know, you know,
just trying to get it right for each corner to
you know the problem at India it kind of looks
like therefore just corners that look the same, but they're
(37:11):
very different. And then when you get the complexities which
we had, especially on Saturday with the wind, you know,
guts of thirty five or forty five miles an hour,
especially in turn two that's gone up your backside. You know,
it definitely changes or grabs your attention, I should say. So, yeah,
it's it's it may look.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Easy from TV.
Speaker 7 (37:29):
Doesn't know justice and you know this year fact that
you're doing over you know, almost four hundred kilometers per
hour as well.
Speaker 4 (37:35):
You know, the.
Speaker 7 (37:36):
Downside of that is the crash, and the crash is
a pretty big nun.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Yeah, Scott, you really don't want to focus on that.
And on the subject of Rex, couple of kiwis didn't
have the best of times. Turns one, turns two, both
McLoughlin and Armstrong with some big skids and of course
the best thing about that is they walked away eight. Okay,
the cars didn't a lot of work to do between
(38:00):
the smash time and when they start again. That's huge
energy and effort from the team.
Speaker 7 (38:07):
Yeah, definitely not what you want to see for any competitor.
Obviously with with Marcus, you know, he's under kind of
the Ganassi engineering umbrella. You know, he's at my shank,
but we have a partnership with them, you know. And
then mclaughlan's one was was kind of ill timed, you know.
I think being the morning of qualifying, you know, definitely
makes it quite frustrating for you know, for that next
(38:30):
day of the Fast twelve. And you know, the real
big downside is that, you know, the kind of the
fit and you know, preparation for these cars that we
really only run at the five hundred, you know, it
is kind of months in the build, you know, so
if you jump to a backup car, and we saw that,
you know from both those guys where you know, Marcus,
(38:51):
you know, really struggled to qualify I think the next
few days just because the cars aren't prepped the same
and mclachland, you know, I'm sure Penske have got some
some great backups in their scenario, but still it's not
the car that you know, you really want to race.
So they've got a week to to kind of work
on it now, or at least you know, four to
five days to kind of get it prepped as much,
but it's never the same. So you know they'll be
(39:13):
fast and you know, hoping for big things for fellow
Kiwis and hopefully we can all fly the flag.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
One last thing, Scott Dixon then, as always, thanks very
much for sharing some time with us and the listeners.
Let's talk about the controversy of the week, the attenuated
situation with Team Penske. It's only a tiny adjustment, but
it's still illegal and they've been absolutely slacked for that.
(39:39):
Were you surprised to see this, Yeah, it's not.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
You know, I think the you know, the hard part
is the legitimacy of the sport, right, you know, it's
it's already magnified because you know, Roger Penske owns the
Indy five hundred of the circuit. You know, he owns
a team that races competitively in the IndyCar Series, which
he already owns and owns the engine supplayer that makes
(40:05):
the engines for you know g So it's a tricky
situation for them anyway, and they have to be squeaky clean,
and you know, unfortunately it didn't play out that way.
And you know, I think off the back side of
what happened last year with you know, their overtake penalties
and you know, doing something kind of blatantly illegal there
(40:25):
as well. So it's not a good look, you know,
and it's frustrating for the sport just in general, and
frustrating for team owners and everybody that's involved, you know,
and you know, you can see some of the reaction
that's come from it, you know, with some of the
penalties that they've been handed and you know, plus I
think today where they fired you know, three of you know,
Penske employees. So yeah, it's just it kind of unfortunately,
(40:47):
you're probably talking more about that than you know, a
rookie Schwartzman getting the poll for the biggest race in
the world. So you know, hopefully they can they can
clean it up, and you know, unfortunately they're just going
to be under the magnified big time now.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Four forty five Monday morning, that race is on Indianapolis,
the Brickyard Racing for that bottle of milk. If you
want to hear the full interview, you can. It's online
at a news talks here b dot co dot in
z here to be epic and thanks very much for
all your texts. Lots of race car fans out there,
it's always good to hear quickly with this winning and
(41:35):
losing the whole sport profession and social engineering. It keeps
the sheep and the paddic looking in the middle, trying
to find holes in the fence through it's to escape.
I did of her outdoor pursuits, rafting and climbing and
hunting and playing against nature. She's tougher and fairer than
blind rusts and sports and cheats. Great show though, Darcy,
thanks Warwick, thank you very much. A lot of people
(41:58):
saying best of liked Scott Dixon gonna be another massive
but he's starting so far up as opposed to way
back like last time around. And Penske owns everything they
got done for Push to Past eating last year. They
don't have to own everything, the series, the engine supplier,
the track.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
Dearing me.
Speaker 2 (42:19):
Thank you very much for listening, and thank you. It's
middle s. I recommend him as you were and I
See you later.
Speaker 1 (42:29):
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